Rap Radar: Jermaine Dupri & Curren$y

Then when you told me it's coming out to overp over my dead body, you had you had to scoop on that early right over my dead body. I know a guy. I can't down to you out here, man, I was like, okay. And to see him come out with over my dead body, had the bedroom like he was you know back in the day, had the heat fan like he was in mama's house, trying to get it together as a rapper man, but authentic Yo, Retty bringing the theatric city Apollo. Man. I was used to

seeing that. Yeah, Man, I mean that was like the most I've seen the Apollo as far as attendance wise, like that was most people I've ever seen in the venue. I don't even know what he could take the chairs out, yeah yeah, set the tone be like when we came in the VIP thing, like it was crazy, right yeah, man, I saw um it was like I said, it was a lot of people there. Um. I talked to Boogie Dash, Dame Dash's son, Um yeah, Snoop Dogg's son, Cordell. He

we had chopped it up briefly. And then you know, of course I saw Cordette cortest a rap right up podcast on them. He was protest Bryant yep. And of course some of the OVO guys um like Chubs and forty and Rocks they wall in the building as well, So it was it was a real good mix of people. Only win night one. You went two nights, right yeah, yeah, we're gonna get to that. We're gonna get to that.

But you know what that one I was. I was going away when I walked in, though, Like they had ripped the seats out the whole bottom level right Like it was like I didn't know you could do that, the Apollo and I didn't know you could do that, man. Yeah, Like that's how That's how the boy does it. Man. So he had basically cleared out the whole bottom level and open bar whatever you want to drink that had the lobos on it to kill. You know, I'm gonna let to kill a blanca right now. You know this

is no sponsor, but shout lobos. You know what I'm saying. They had that. Um yeah, So I was just born away by that, you know what, was kicking it with too beat out. You're not gonna You're not gonna believe it, man, zay low man me and oh yeah yeah, Zaylo was in the building. Man, it was shopping it up. It was good to really, you know, I never really kicked it with him to talk to him. It was really a good time, man. Yeah. And then you know, the boy did this thing right like and then he brought

the dip set out for the home team. He brought dip set out. I was kind of like rerun on what's happening. I was bootlegging a little bit of it on the live stream. Oh yeah, Arents is loving you, the kids that they were loving you out there for your bootlegs. Yeah. I had to, you know, I had to represent for the culture. Yeah, get that love stream real out real quick out here the love stream love streams. Yeah, man,

And you know what's ill is about Drake? You know, like you said, he came out to over my dead body, and it just kind of reaffirmed what we already knew about Drake. I felt like the B sides got a lot of attention and it just like I said, it felt like the people want those records and yeah, yeah, and it's like Drake is one of the best to ever do it. Man, if he if he's done your top ten, I mean, what are you? What are you saying? Man? Just tell me you're talking all time? You sunk all time?

He said that. Yeah, Drake is definitely a Hall of Fame at this point. He's in Cooperstown, Canton. I mean whatever, you what, I don't know what you want to rank them through one through ten, but he's somewhere in there. So yeah, undeniable man. Yeah. So the first whole first set first, you know what, eight to ten songs was mostly B side, right, think he did wuten forever he did jaded like he was killings like I never seen him do a lot of those records. Feeling the ways

I was a little disappointed. Then he started going to the manly and the hits. I wanted him to at least come back and do some more B sides, Like he kind of the B sides in the front, you know what I mean, Like and even some joints. It's like with technically singles could have been you know, like trophies or zero to one hundred like you know, like a lot of the B sides though, were like battle records.

And I know he doesn't want to do that, but you know, I wanted a little more B side, But I can't get mad man, Like he evially smashed it, and you could just tell he was so happy, like post pandemic to be out there and you know, doing this thing. Man. And then when twenty one came out, like they got they got the youth right now, man, him in twenty one they was doing that twenty one. Can you do something for me? Things like super Out That was like one of the loudest pops you know

in the crowd that night. Yeah, you know, yeah, rich Flex definitely gets the people going. Man. The novel. He has so many records. He could, like you say, could pull from the old He could pull from the new even some of the records that not necessarily got the biggest response, you know, commercially, they still go. Yeah. So I think that's just a testament to Drake's greatness. Man, it was a great time speaking of going. Man, you know me be that I said I wanted to go

to both shows. I get real greedy out here. Man, I'm sorry, I'm old and greedy. I think I'm going to and from jump Future to Princes, you know, shout out Future to Prince. He told me, you know, it might not be able to happen. You know, it's a little hectic, you know, pick one night, pick one night. So Saturday I reached out, I got in, there was no problem, blah blah. And then when I was there at the end, I ran into Future. I ran into forty. Shout out forty. I saw him for him and I

was basically going to areas I didn't belong. I didn't have the badge, basically just used my face card to kind of act like up along. And then Future was like, yo, you messed up. I'm like, wait, what I do wrong? What I do wrong? So the Future was mad at me because not only did I text him about the show. I also texted Drake, so I guess Drake said to him, like, Yo, you're gonna take care elliot, blah blah. And I guess he got irritated because I already added him directly, you

know what I mean. So he was like, yo, you know na man, So he was gonna give me a little bit of attitude. I was a future You asked mom and Dad said no, that's mom and Dad. I said, just asked Dad. I went to both. I I messed up, made a rookie move, but I'm sorry. I fucked up. So then I'm scramble. I'm like, damn, I got to get to the second show though, and it's raining and ship, but I'm still like fucking I'm undeterred. I'm in New York. You know, I'm visiting. I'm a California person out because

you know, be that. So I'm visiting. I need to get to, you know, the most out of my situation. So I was like, let me hit me easy. You know twenty one Savages manager, uh, you know, he hasn't been getting back to us. We've been trying to get twenty one on the show full transparency, and he hasn't really gotten back to us, right. But when I asked for the tickets, he all of a sudden he hit me back and he was like, yeah, I got you, as long as he couldn't give me a plus one.

But he was like, yeah, I got you. But bus so I got in there off easy shout out me easy man twenty one twenty one. You know what I'm saying. So I got to say, but you know you didn't mis say to be out. The first night was better than the second night. I'm gonna be honest with you. So does this make you slow the game? That's all I want to ceo slow the gang CEO, like, you know, slowter Gates letting a lot of light skinned brothers there

right now, right, So Drake Bay opened the door for me. Man, I might be slowter game man before hell man, I'm like, now, but your night was better be that. But I should have been like you just chilling on the night too. Man. It was raining out there, it was cold with you know what I'm saying, Just I should have just lay low? What's up with all? So I'll go back to California and me be after the show. I gotta be my

ass home. But now I'm looking on my timeline. Every other night there's some hip hop shit of the Apollo. Little Kim's tearing it down. Yep, she's bringing Lola out. You know, it's the hot Lola, you know, a hot song right now. And then I see they finally put the Maze cam J. They show together the Free Headed Monster Day out there doing horse and carriage. What's going on in the city, but that what's going on. It's showed time at the Apolo. Man though Steve Harvey needed it.

But it's good to see, you know, the Apolo Theater becoming a viable place, and not to say it never was, but you know, to see talent back in Hallom, you know, performing, you know, it's just a great vibe. I mean I didn't go to those shows, but you know, I saw a couple of clips, you know, circling online. So it's a good venue. You know, there's not too many venues in New York City anymore. A lot of them got

shut down. So you know, I think this is good that people can remembering that the Apollo is still a great space to perform at. Take it up town, But she was chilling. You don't want to take it up time. You know, I want to John, that's all I need. Popolo Knights now that not too many up all the nights though. I'm gonna keep my black ass and queens man all right, man, but how hear you coming to California be the you know one a week when the eve of was potentially the next Rock Nation brunch. Man,

I'm looking at my email. I don't see my invite yet. I don't know what's going on. And we're saying gonna see what's gonna happen is this is a tough week for us. Man, We're gonna know probably about you know, as we taking us on a Sunday that we're probably gonna do the next twenty four forty eight hours if we're invited to the Rock Nation brus to share. How are you feeling? Man? Here feeling confident? What's going on

with you right now? How are you feeling? I brought it be a suit because it costed a lot of money. I don't know how y'all see it when it comes to the ruck. You gotta get old dB on man. I feel good, you know, I think that's always It's been three years since the last one, and um, it's always the most h talked about event of the Grammy weekend.

I think it's more exciting than the actual Grammys. It's like the hip hop prom everyone you know suited and booted, and it's really a great atmosphere of real convivial kind of vibe. And I'm going forward to it, man, like I'm looking forward to it. So you said you had a souper. Now you may be switching the program last minute you're doing. Yeah, man, I might do a wardrobe change. I might bring two suits just in case because I

don't know which whatever I mean. You know what I mean, You're gonna switch in the middle of the event, or you coming going to cut it up? Like you know, I always enjoyed myself when I'm there, So I'm looking forward to it. I'm looking forward to that than an actual ceremony. So you know what I'm saying, I gotta I gotta see my invite in my inbox before I go out to buy a super Man. I'll buy a new sup but I can't move yet, man, I gotta know what I'm saying. I gotta make sure I secure

the bag. I'm secured. You know what I'm saying. We'll see how it goes. Man, But I don't listen. I don't have an invitation either. We're just gonna cut through the back door. Nah nah, Man at the work man, Man catering, catering, be the light skinned janitor again, that's not me. Mann. We gotta get right, man, please, Yeah, we'll get right. Hopefully we have a story to tell, a positive one next week. Yeah. Well, look, we manifested last last episode that we would getting into the trade joint.

That worked out, So we manifested. We're putting a good vibe together that we're gonna make it to the to the brunch man. You know, you know, no hard feelings either way, but you know, feel fingers across. I feel good about it. I think we'll be good. We'll be good, all right. Nobody's better than sits out here? Man. Seven weeks and number one? What's going on with sitsar Man? Shit, she's doing it. I might need to rap rate our podcast when hello, Hello, get to get top on the phone.

Wor it up now. But we're all working, man. We just came off this Atlanta run. Like we told people earlier, we're about to go to Atlanta. Make things seems happen. So I'm in Atlanta. I'm like, yo, I see on the timeline that currencies and in Atlanta, what you made the pre that making some music? Because I hit him up, I'm like, yo, how long are you in Atlanta? You know He's like, yeah, I'm here a couple days. Blaha. I was like, yo, man, beat up, coming down and

take these episodes. Let's get something done like blab Boss and they said it was with it. So I hit beat Out in the group chat. We have this group tex with our producer Laura. I was like, yo, I didn't even get Currency and j D. And I'm thinking, like, as be gonna say yes, don't the Quiet Troopers that beat Out is very selective about the guests we put them to rapperate or podcast. Man, It's true, he'd be

shutting people down. I'd be like, yo, we can make it work, and beat I'll be like, nah, no, we ain't doing it. But I said that, and then be like of course, yeah, yeah we can do that, blahlah blah. Then when we sit with them, I'll come to find out that basically beat Out the reason these guys got together. Man's Jermaine Dupre and Currency Hey, man, listen, I don't I don't talk about my wins or just let the

work speak for itself, you know, beat out for a reason. Yeah, but you know, I quietly connected the dots between Jermaine Dupri and currency and I want a small executive producer credit on the project. Yeah, good luck with that. Good luck with that. Now. When we went down there, Yo, what was it like for you to be a social death studios? Man? A lot of story stuff downe there, man, Yeah, that was like my first time ever going then. Um,

it's just like your eyes just wander. All you see is like a row of plaques and just like all those plaques have stories behind them. Man, such a lot of cool artifacts in his studio. And Jermaine Dupri himself is a living legends, so it's always good to pick his brain and you know, talk to him about some of the records that m I grew up listening to. You know, it isn't it crazy? Like it's I mean, I see people saying, like, you know, it's an odd pairing.

It's an odd pairing, Like I get to this odd pairing. But like the music, the music didn't making it. Look there's a lot of chemistry between them, Like it's amazing, Like I didn't expect this to work so well from what we heard they played us about four or five songs and that Yeah, you know, yeah I can front man like Currency. Currency is one of the most prolific artists in the game, right, and he's always putting out of music, Like he puts out music like it's going

out of style. But he sounds reinvigorated in in a lot of ways, not in like in a bad way, but it's just more so like like he's he just founds like he's in his groove of JD behind him, you know, like yeah, yeah, he's loving it. He's loved and you could you could you could tell when in the ROMs, Like it's kind of really hard to explain, but I think the fans will get where I'm coming from when they listen to the music and they had

once on it. Plus when they were like getting bad people and making lists and not being on lists and something, I felt like they might have been doing some dart your way man with the list and all that. The lists. Hey, it's okay, it's okay, you'll say about the hand the fees them, you brought it together. Man, they say, clapping back, you brought them together. The clapping back. Most kings get the head cut off. Elliot's all right, j D Baby, don chi Chi, don chi Chi Man, don chi Chi

and spinner Man Yos and the fans love. The first time we got with currency back in New Orleans. We went to like a church and stuff. And remember he was like, he was so ampty. We just flew down the interview him. He thought he was like on something like New Orleans Press run. He was like, I know you're gonna see Solange and I'm like, Noah, we see Solange man for you, Like it's just what it is, you know. Yeah, that was fun. I mean time goes by so fast. I was like, what five six years ago?

Maybe it was that long ago. Wow, it's been spent a while. I think I might be, you know, saucing it, but I think it was like five six years ago. We did that conversation and at a studio I think it's a church converted studio or something like that. It's always a good time spit us in the building. You'll see they can't front of rap erate a podcast. Man. We ain't new to this man. The you see us

out here in the open marketing. Man, all platforms, but we put work in missus what twenty fifteen Beat said we should do this twenty fifteen? Come on, man, been a while. It's been a while. Man, if we got something big coming up, we can't speak on the yep, but my fingers is crossed. Beat, that brought something big to the table. Man, just put your positive thoughts allway man, that we make this thing work. Man, we're making some

big moves right now. You know what I'm saying. I think this whole episode is gonna be entitled like positive vibes, Positive positive vibes. Even though Jad Man, you don't he don't take you don't know how to take a compliment, man, Jady got that chip of the shoulder. Man, he don't never get the respect he deserves. He'd like, yo, JD, you hot out here. He's like, what you mean? I'm hot? I've been hot? Like you don't know how to take

a commiment, man, JD. Part of Jamaine the Pre's genius is that you know, he never feels like he gets his just dude, That's what makes them to me, continue to go hard, continue to make history, continue to show you know how dope he is, you know, yeah, for sure. I mean remember the first time we had JD on I think I called him like my thirteen favorite producer or something like that. He loved that. Yeah, you know

what I mean. So, you know, like you said that Chip on the show, I think has always been the battery in his back. Really. Yeah, inspired and motivated, and you know, at the end of the day, I give JD. You know, a lot of shit here and there, but at the end of the day, he's a certified legend. Let's be clear, Like he's iconic, certain goat status, coast status. Man. So let's get into it, man, we get got to go down to his his home base. Man, Social Death Studios. Man.

He keeps it real clean, the vegan lifestyle. He's drinking like a gallon of water a day. Man, he's keeping the skin right. Man. Shout Jamae the Prix boy. Man, he's a real He's the real ice cream man, a vegan ice cream. You know what I'm saying. Man, Tasty, very tasty out there. And then currency, Man, why's currency? Just like the coolest fool on the planet. Man, that dude is just so cool and just so like he's

Comedy Central all the time. Yeah, currency is just like living off life, man, Like his mom is good, the jets are good, his son is great. Like he's just chilling man. Like, it's hard to be mad at currency. Someone said they're mad at currency. There's something wrong with you. There's nothing wrong with you, man, It's nothing wrong with the rapper of podcast. Man. Let's get it to a man, Jermaine the pre currency man. They got a lot of heat on the way. 're gonna be heating up the

whole year twenty twenty three. And we appreciate those exclusive anybody, Like we set it off with this woman right right here. Definitely, their inaugural conversation, noble conversation us getting to a manager made the pre currency on the off podcast dast yeah, rappering up podcast, Ellie Wilson, be that you know what's up? Baby good Man? Were so deaf studios man, you know what it is, y'all know what this I just recently

got that. I'm sorry if I blew my introduction. Definitely, I definitely just got dad dropped on one of my ren because je currency and making a goddamn music together made the pre currency. Yeah, yeah, I think this is hot one of the most highly anticipated albums of the year because Instagram snippets and they played us like four songs you know before we sat down and yeah, man, JD, what's going on? Brother? You seemed like extra rejuvenated and like this guy like how did this come together? I

don't even know what that mean? Actually, I don't know what that means. I think, like I don't look mean, that's what I do. I don't know. Huh, yeah, I mean I don't know. You know, this is what he'd been doing. Maybe other people rejuvenated other people My bad, you stay, you stay. I'm you know what I did?

I did? I did. I thought about it because like I have seen people reacting the way they're acting, and they keep acting like I think rap has become so popular and so big that niggas don't think it's other music out there, right, because you know what I mean, Like people be hitting me like damn, I ain't know you make peach like this. I'm like, wait, wait a minute, you missed you miss a linux record that you missed this. There's at least other records that happened over the last year.

You missed these records or you you so I started realizing that people probably not listening to nothing but rap music. So you know what I mean, I think that's what that's where that reaction is coming from. I think, so people don't if I don't make no rap project, yeah, then people like so maybe that's like you played one song where you started the song off and you spitting bars like, so do you he back in the rap world where you like really like stating your ship. I

think that's inspiring. Yeah, I mean, like I said, I mean, that's where I come from. Mommy, we got a million records,

were being him records every day. That's just what I do. Um. But I'm also you know, R and B king some kind of way, which is it's it's interesting, but it's it's weird that people don't be like they only see rap now, Like if you ain't making a rap records, it don't seem like people be even knowing you make music to me anyway, because I made you know what I mean, Because I made a bunch of albums last year yea, or not a bunch of albums, but I made albums and it just put you know, just to

see people be like and I mean I think people was really in the midst of this when you know, when the when the Division record came out and they had everybody talking about you know if I get caught and it was like a viral thing. But I still don't know that people honed in on oh he made that, you know what I'm saying, because RB producers don't necessarily have uh, like a thing about them, like they don't stand out and be a star to next to the artist.

You know what I'm saying, don't know who did who? You don't know who did it, you know what I'm saying, Celine Dion, whoever. You don't know who's pressing the buttons unless the motherfucker, you know what I'm saying, do it like you and I have ship to whether it's no you were involved, you know what I'm saying, But it kind of the first step to the you know what I'm saying, like that's not what happens and wrapped the motherfucker right there with him, you know what I'm saying.

So you know, like, not dude, did this be like the R and B records? Don't you know what I'm saying, something a lot of shit like you didn't you don't have a fucking big tag in the front of ship. Motherfucker got to find out you did it, you know what I'm saying, so that you can attack though you said you was when you put that y'all know what this is? Finally I wanted to Yeah, I thought, I

literally thought I was listening to another record. I was like this this some other songs like somebody else, this, somebody else. So dude, I knew I knew it. You know what this is the first time you said it where it came from? Yeah, I think the first time I did it where people actually paid attention to it was on grills with a Nelly record. When I did

it on a Netty record. But I always did it as like I did it all like a whole monologue in the front, like you know what I mean, We're gonna start an epidemic with this, y'all know what this is? And I said social death after it. I just start taking that off and just start just saying, y'all know this is right before the beat drop, and you know, yeah, people be looking for it. I'd be trying. I'd be all I get tired of this ship and be like, I'm not doing that right, the whole project, Nigga, I'm

sitting in there, like, is this ship coming out? Bro would have said that ship by now. If this ship was for real? You know what I'm saying. He said two days ago. That's even crazy too, Like people don't feel like it's real till I say that, right. Yeah, I was sitting right next to you, like, nah, Bro just being nice because I said his name on the hair Fraud record. He just don't know. He don't know how to say thanks, So he's just like you know what, Bro,

come rap, That's where I started. You made a record Jermaine d the pre beat that says he helped put you guys together? Is that true? I want executive production credit he did? Yeah, he definitely did. Yeah Bro, because connected, but he done some good things. Yeah, yeah, what you do now? So this partnership started from Collection Agency, right. You had a record called Jamine the Prix, and you know when the album dropped, I was like, Yo, joined this I made he waved the band of fucking yellow.

He wouldn't the best song. Yeah, And that's how I know. That's how I called it. I like that's how he even that it happened. So I had sent Jermaine a DM on Instagram like yo, currency has a song named Nathew called Jermaine Dupre and then Jimmy is like word and then the rest is history. Ye look, I look at that based on the story, and all I wanted was a beat. When he hit me, I'm like, dog, just say he like, no, just come on, let's just do a whole day. But why why did you decide

to name a song inspired by Jermaine? Because I was by Jamaine and watching MTV cribs. Ro was walking him through the garage and he went to the fucking you had a Condon in this garage and motherfuckers didn't have that. And then he fucking drew a line in the saying I was like, if you don't have one of these, now the big dog. So you have to stop saying that. Everybody said there's a big dog. They don't have this, you know what I'm saying. Drew the line with the

five eggs uh Downald Duck Iceberg. That was a moment and I was like, that's that's what I would be doing if I had that bread Like that's that's crazy. I hope that I could get some shit like that Jain. I feel like the first time I came to Atlanta was a press junket when he was throwing out the album money anything like from fourteen seventy two. I remember coming to your house and you had like you had all the rap magazines and you had the rob Report. I don't even know what the fuck that was. I

was like Jamaine's that's a different level. So I learned about it. Like I was like he had the rap bags, he had the robber pot. I knew what that was. Right, What did you think about it? Huh? When you heard the record remain the pret what did you think I

was bugging? Because I'm like, you know, damn Nigga made a song named me, right, that's not that's not that's not that's not every day and that's not something that you actually you know, I mean saying things that I want to see happen in my career and even when I was younger. But I never thought about that, Like I never thought I would make a somebody else's on

the album, be a song on somebody else's album. So I was I would, like I said, when when when you sent it to me and I start checking it out, I was just like, damn, I gotta make a record

with this nigga, Like you gotta do something. It don't make you know what I mean, Like if it's the last thing I do, I make a record with him just for that because I feel like that you know, that's a that's a stamp that you know that means that, like you said, if I if I actually did that to him, that makes me understand at least what I did, yeah bout this career that I had. Ye ye, so you flew down like what was the first meetings like?

And that why the chemistry hit to like because dude was regular like humming like dude normal despite how many plaques you walk by. Not he don't think he like you know what I'm saying. On another planner and ship bro regular like looking right now and everything just cool. And I felt that shit. And second you know you you know for show like if you want to play ball with this nigga or not, you know what I'm saying, if you pick them you want them or not? And

seconds you can tell you know what I'm saying. And that's what it was. I think we did the same thing to each other with the seconds and was like all right, it just stepped on the gas like this fuck it. It was on, yeah, straight up and then fucking the dog pound hit me up. Dads hit me because they see me in here smoking. It was like nigga. We used at the go in the bathroom the smoke like because dude didn't want nobody smoking in that bitch.

Like you remember that broke you broke through a barrier right now. I used to be you know, when you get a new studio, I mean, you know, I've had this place for a while soon, but when you get the new studio, you kind of like and I never wanted my studio to smell like we um. I just didn't at the time. You know, I smell like huh no, I don't. But I thought I've been in a couple of places where like, yeah, I'm probably the only one come through. We're even gonna try Brad, oh, Bra, Brad

blow it down? Yeah big? But have you done you know, albums with one producer in the past, like Alchemists continue with Harry Frog. What makes it different this time around? It's nothing that we're doing that's making it different, honestly, Like Bro said, like that's what he'd been doing, and this is what I've been doing, you know what I'm saying. And it's just I had never like we just never

had our shot, you know what I'm saying. That's that's flat out just what it is bro like um and the fact that we were so cool and the ship just so easy to do. It's just it's just sounding. It sounds how that sound, And that's that's that is the different The only differences the reaction from my listeners because they have never seen me on a level like that. Not to take nothing away from alor nobody else, you know,

like we live in the underground. No matter how big we have gotten, you know what I'm saying, we still it is that way soul for me to walk through this hallway to record like my listeners is like damn like bro like on something else. So they they tripping, That's what's making it like that, you know what I'm saying.

And a lot of naysayers of mine who probably figured like somebody or his caliber wouldn't fuck with me or wouldn't be able to find like what they could do with my sound, you know what I'm saying, So they shocked and they fucked with it. Too none, you know what I'm saying. That's that's the only thing that that's what's making the difference. People who didn't really fuck with me fucking with it because of that, and they didn't

know it was gonna be that that that dope. So they they're trying to apologize for being bitches forever, you know what I'm saying. So they just they just all like that. That's the difference. That seems like you're spending a lot of time in Atlanta, right yeah, bro, cool, Like if I fuck with you, I'm gonna pull up in anguige. You know it's no, it don't matter. We might not even do do shit, you know what I'm saying.

Just like if I could just come through and just kick it, I'm gonna just come through and kick it. So so yeah, that's that's why. That's why, you know what I'm saying. It's almost like a movement you're building, right you guys dropping the EP and then possibly another EP, right yeah, no, possibly. There's too many records in there. Yeah, there's too many records in there. It's gonna be like three of them. I wanted to do a whole album. I wanted to do all out on me. I'm wanted

a double book. But but like three days ago, bro drop the bombers like, look, we're just gonna drop now. I was like, all right, you know what I'm saying. You really gonna say? You know what I'm saying? All right, bam. So riding back to the spot, I thought about them, like, nah, that shit cool because just like when y'all heard the records, y'all heard motherfuckers like playing some no yeah yeah. So you know what I'm saying, that's what we're gonna do

to the game. When we dropped that, man, y'all know, y'all because it just went for the whole fourteen fifteen like nah, I don't trip, it's coming in a minute. And then you take it upon yourself creative playlist, you got the whole joint and then would drop your seven more as needed. We're just being the airplane flying over by many in trouble down there. It just drops. Get y'all, little cat package. How did you come up with that? Jvu um? I mean, well, well, first of all, let's

let me say this. This is all it's a real old wall project. We're gonna do a tour, We're gonna do it. We're gonna go out and we're gonna do basically the seven songs from the first the ep UM and I just feel like, like, I feel like the add that people have when they listen to music. It's so much music coming out, you know, let's keep people thirsty. And I feel like, you know, you know, we started working on this last year, so we we we found everybody done nothing like that in my life, never done

anything like that in my life. First day I hung with bro, I thought we were dropping the songs that we did that night, as that sounds like it's posted this these niggas waiting on this ship to drop at midnight. And this man was like, oh no, this is how going. I'm like, what fuck? You got the big as all the graph picture of Michael Jackson and your and your studio stuff right right, I'm away, let's do what you're

talking about. One thing, I ain't tripping. Yeah, So it's just you know, it's a it's an overall thing where I feel like, um, you know, we started working on this in the beginning and I started sing from like this this Instagram social media marketing that I'm doing. Basically I'm saying like, oh, this is what y'all want. Oh, this is what y'all talking about. Oh okay. So then we start saying, oh, we should put this person on this song. We should put this person on this song.

We should put this person on this song. And we start so like part two is you know, it's gonna be featured out. I feel like, you know, I feel like it's important for this this part one actually has come to a space where it's just really the South. It's a real you know what I mean, It's a real Southern record that that I feel like the South actually needs, like a record that that has all the

elements of hip hop. I'm scratching this, samples, this, you know what I mean, It's all kinds of things in there. I feel like the South need that just to continue to keep, you know, doing what we're doing. And I feel like the next record, um, you know the nas Ross. I mean, yeah, we got some cuts, we got we

got we got all of these records that wet. It's just like let's get let's let's make sure y'all understand what's happening on the first one before we bless you, like they would make sure you love us for real the first one, but to change in Tia in the first one and the other guests. That's the first time Tia got on one of his beats. Wow, how is that possible? The first time coming to the studio that he said? I mean, you know, I think like, well, I mean, you know t always had and he had

you know what I mean? This is just like you know, it's not really I'm not and I'm not the guy that's like, hey, I'm trying to make my own projects. You know what I'm saying. I'm been here doing what I'm doing. Ain't nobody even paying no attention? Right if you see like y'all here, ain't I ain't not one of my people in the studio. It's all the people and all my people like it. What the is? I ain't seen us. I ain't smoking a right like nigga?

What's up? Like you tell everybody to stay out this business. They don't know what they don't know what you know what I mean, they don't know what's what's happening at this point. Um. And that's usually how I like to make my records. I like to do what I'm doing and whatever y'all doing over the that's y'all. Then I come out and it's like boom, boom, What the fuck with this came from? You know what I mean? So that's basically you're not saying nobody, no beat, You gotta

come into your world and get down crazy. People be wanting that though. They want me to sing beats, and I'm saying, like i'd be trying to explain to them, like if you hear and we talk about it and we figure it out, the records will come out way better. And I don't think people understand what way better actually means and hip hop what you mean by that? Like like just now, like y'all heard four songs. Them songs

ain't even mix they just run, they just rough. Like wait till I mix these songs, that shit gonna sound one hundred times better than what it sound right now. And that's that's what I mean by way better. I don't even know if people cared to get to the

hundred percent better? Do you think it said I didn't understand, like your producer, the process of making music, but it really takes no I just think that that that that you know, I'm I'm vegan, right, So I was talking about this yesterday about how when you know vibes I'm going I'm saying. I was telling him about you know and hip hop. Everybody told my operational phone the phone not at turn you told me to turn it off. You gotta turn it off, you got to turn it off.

Keep whatever you was like, he told me that was in the camera, like, might not seriously know my phone though? So yesterday I was telling him that, you know, I'm vegan, but I heard somebody say something that made me want to be even more vegan than what I actually am. Right, And it's based on the fact that in hip hop, vibrations is like a word to vibrate high and vibrate load. Make sure your vibrations is right, right, anybody saying this?

And I'm like, you know, when you eat a dead animal, you're putting a dead vibration in your body, right, That's what that is. And I feel like that's the same thing with with music. When you tell me to send the beat. Whatever's in between me sending the beat and wherever you at, what's end between there is the energy that we're gonna pick up. Right, it ain't gonna be

you know what I mean to beat? You you might not listen to the beat on Friday, and I sent the ship Friday morning, you don't get it to Sunday. That's that bad energy, because now you're gonna make me feel like my beat one popping and you ain't called me back, and I'm me knowing me, I'm gonna make thirty other beats and you're gonna be like, well, nah, I fuck with it, and I'm gonna be like, nah, I got a number one right, It's just gonna throw

the whole energy off. So I'm just saying, I feel like if we're talking about vibrations and everybody always talking about shit that happened in the past and how good albums work. Rick Ruman was in the studio with LLL cool J, you know what I mean. Doctor Drake was in the studio, was snooped up. These puffles in the studio are big. You gotta be in the studio with

each other that's sending the beach shit, that's cool. If nigga's got so much money while y'all sending beach just flying down and seeing niggah, I'm just saying, like, shit, send me a beat that flew down to see. That's some boss talk right like that. I I don't really I think, I like, I just I just feel like it's just a bad it just don't. But do you feel like that, Curtcy, like you're being really produced on this project? I've said that. How does that feel like

it's an artist ible with all the music you put up? Yeah, it makes me. I damn never forgot everything I did because it's like it feels like right now, I feel like I'm nineteen, Like I'm like, damn, Like it's like I'm watching five Heartbeats. What it's like, Damn niggas making it like it's going down like like like that. It's like it's like that, It's just it's me though. Nigga's gonna be like, Damn, I was crazy saying five heartbeats. Nigga said he bigger and he just thought about making

beats straight up? How I feel like, you know what I'm saying. When they were waking her from the bone, being like that's a song on and shit like that, when that, Nigga said, y'all know what this is. I pictured my fucking band members from the Heartbeats Waking me up Nigga song on the radio that's what the fuck happened to me? I went all the way to Jenny, give you like a struct the criticism of your verses,

like how what's the problems. I ain't gonna lie motherfuckers, don't do that to me and don't be like do something again. But this nigga was like, you probably say that again, like, well the nigga, dude got all the graph picture of Michael jack like and it's it's like to him, it's not like he's seen Michael Jackson, Like

can you sign this? This nigga was like, you know, to you bro, like to him all that shit in the to this nigga sounding like all right, bro, I'm gonna go ahead and let it again, dude, fuck it, bro, let's see it. But he don't gotta be told like like thing about him is he knows, he knows, he knows actually what you know what I mean? He understands this space, so you understand where we are right now. Nigga's gonna come to me to not get on the radio like that just don't happen. Don't come over here

to be like JD. Let's make an underground album. I kind of came to you and it was like I was thinking, let's do let's just do my thing, you know what I'm saying. But you can't even control who you are. It's you. Like I was like a low Rider song that I listened to in my low Rider and my home is Nobody, and this nigga flipped the sample into something that blew everybody brands out and then

he says, y'all know what this is on it? And I'm like, my nigga, there's a record that I really made for my call club to be like, yeah, you wrapped on the fucking record. We like like, oh, nigga, we about the fucking go to the moon behind that ship. But it's just I don't know five hobbies. But it's not for the radio though, Like this is not for it wasn't like, yeah, I didn't say that. I didn't say that, but he can't control what the fucking I think.

I mean, Like, you know, I want my listeners so excited. They didn't knew that I was gonna step in ship. There was no way that I could be in here and some shit like that not happened. But you don't want that, do you, because you had to do enjoy being able to just kick it. But I see the monetary value and being on that platform, and I think I've been like I've been me for so long. I

ain't that shit ain't about to happen. I still gonna be able to go to Walmart and get my socks and my undershirts and fucking go to all those on and get tire wet because everybody know me already, Like man bro ain't even knowing it. Y'all knew me already and it wasn't even bothering me because I wasn't lit. So I don't fuck with me now, you know what I'm saying. It's all good. Let me get my groceries. My nigga is good. You know what I'm saying. That's it.

And I'm just and I think I'm still gonna be able to slide, but I'll have like way more little riders, like you know what I'm saying, more rose royces and stuff. I've already been thinking, like what are you saying? Floral? Like how do you handle that? Like geese like it's rosary just that me and I have seventeen of them? Like what do I do? You know what I'm saying, I only have two so I had to think about it.

But I'm like, well, it's gonna send me into another bracket, so I need to say, like, figure out what I have to say when I have that man there. You know, he had this personality, not totally, but I'm saying once being around to my seat, that's how we got cool. Bro. It was like, oh, man, like you funny nigga, you funny, you cool? You know movies like that's what the fuck was happening, like with the end of the day. And I'm like, nah, just my dog, Like it's good, bro,

Like he's not He's not outside. The nigga is legit. He ended up, you know what I'm saying. So it was cool. That's to feel good JD to get kind of back into the wrap space because he had so much success on the R and B front over like the last year. Right. Well, I mean, listen, I wanted you to say this. Okay, he set it up for me to get read out. Um. I first I want

to say this. I want people to understand I am the first nigga from the South period, from the entire your South, to have a record hold the entire South. Let's be clear, only the first rapper from the South, the entire South North Carolina. I don't give flora. It was so big, everything was so big. People just didn't even liking you to a region, Bro, you was just just a thing. Yeah, but we have to we gotta make sure people understand that, because what he's saying is

people they be forgetting that. Like my first single was with jay Z, my song how weird do you to be sitting with you? If my first single is jay Z, Like I'm saying, you see what I'm saying is like this the world I live in. I live in the world. I'm like, damn. Like when I sampled Hold for the Division record, I seen niggas like yo, how jay Z let JD clear that. I'm like, what, that's just my

mom and like this my man. Like, but I'm saying at the same time, people forget like, oh, this nigga is the first nigga from the South, a place where y'all thought rap one's supposed to come from to have a record with the greatest rapper alive. True, your record my record, right, But I mean in recent years, like a Lenox Division you've had, like you know you're doing anything one I don't know by the way I'm saying, I'm not saying. I'm just I don't want to make

sure people understand where I come from. Jaman dupre first single was money Anything. That's the first record that on my album. Everybody else should whatever, but my album. I didn't come out with no Mariah Carrie record and I ain't come out on Usher record. I came out with a straight rap song, ya right, and Nigga's throwing money in the video and all kind of ship crashing force is everything rap shit right? And when people say that, I'm like, damn, y'all just do y'all don't know me.

That's what it is. Kiddy grew up listening to seven. I saw another inter of you were saying, how like people to take for granted now that like back when I was coming up, we didn't hear Southern rap on the radio. You heard this East Coast rap and then your records and then then we hear the Bone Crushes and the Young Bloods and all that. Like talk about that like the impact of like how you went out

to make sure that Atlanta was heard on like those airways. Well, I mean, like when I said that, you know, I think people By the way, Hove called me on this when I said this about me saying that I made New York play Southern music, And um, what I meant by this was that as far as a record company, as far as a label, coming to New York and getting in the streets of New York and running around and making sure that I Records was heard, just like Dip Set or anything else that was out there no

other company from the South that had ever done that, not at the time that I did it right. And you know, this is New York before Star Tenders and all of this. The only strip club in New York was sus One Devout way up in the Bronx, right, And Everybody's like, JD, why you want to go up there? And I'm like, they get neked. It's like Atlanta. I'm trying to go. I'm trying to like what I'm doing. And I even had a party there while I had Atlanta versus New York, and I brought the girls from

the Gentleman's Club to New York. And if anybody's watching this that understands and remember what I'm talking about, you gotta remember at this time in New York, on hot ninety seven Southern rap was like, yeah, DJ might play it, FLEX might hit the song, somebody else might hit the song, and they set But in the rotation of daily radio, you never heard nothing from the South. And I'm saying, you know, like he said, nobody ever said anything about me.

I think I passed through because I wasn't really like trying to push that in people's face. But at the same time, I was the first guy on the radio heavy. I remember when I made money and the thing I sent it the Clue and all I wanted. I felt like how he saw my mind, my tag and you know, you gotta think I've been listening to Clue forever. I'm you know, I'm a hip hop junkie UM and he put money in things first song on his tape and I was like, right, I got the first song, by

the way, a nigga from the South. That's all I'm saying. It's like, I want people to understand who I am. This, that's who I am, That's where I am. I just know how to do that other shit good. But you're also celebrating thirty years of social death being in business this year. Yeah, first record escape coming at you. That came out of nineteen nine three. How does it feel being thirty years in the game? Officially, it feels unbelievable,

say unbelievable. Unbelievable, I don't believe it doesn't really it don't actually feel real right because I don't actually feel like. First of all, I don't even realize I don't even know how I'm the same age as hip hop because I thought that I could have sworn that hip hop started before I was even thinking about rapping. So I'm not really even clear on this fiftieth thing. I'm not I don't understand it because I'm like, I know rapper Delight came out before I was even thinking about rapping,

the brakes that all that shit came. I didn't start rapping two like eighty six. I know all of this happened before me. So I'm still like, how what is the figuration of fifty? But anyway to answer your question, So when I'm looking at that, I'm like, damn, so I started my company twenty years after the genre that we all love. And then I'm also saying, damn, I started my company ten years after thriller thrillers, and I'm like, that's the stuff I'm paying to. I'm like, I don't.

I don't even think I was even close to Thriller back then, but I guess, you know, I guess I was. So that's the stuff I'm looking I'm like, it doesn't feel real, yes, Michael Jackson autograph. I don't know if you know. Currency. Let's talk about the project, man, the Social Jets. That first song you play, they said, the fans put that together, right, the Social Jets, Yeah, soltainly we linked up. That was the first thing. They was saying, like this one should be called so so justice has

to be called so so just. And I figured I was like, well as an old to them because I saw it so many times, Like, no, y'all not gonna name the album for me, but I will let y'all know that I saw that shit, you know what I'm saying. So when they heard I posted a clip of it. And when they heard that I was saying that on the record, everybody was happening. Everybody was like, I feel

like I named it. I feel like and in a sense, all of you did you know, I'm not joint JD talk about lists excluding people, mans excluding people manually know he actually said this. This was a line that yeah it was saying his verse, but it struck. But by seeing I'm like, I know shit like that. Yeah, yeah, it does happen to us. Yeah, I mean, you know, it's just like what we're talking about, Like, I just don't understand. I really don't. I really don't get the

how my hip hop presence begin passed off. And I'm like I said, I never I never really try to like waive any flag because tomorrow I might be on an R and B album and not even talking about this record tomorrow, you know what I mean. That's just how I make records. That just we're done now he can get on the flight after this interview, it's all walking in pr and everything. You know what we got to do for the record At that point, My mind is what you know, I's just going back to Vegas.

I gotta you know what I mean. I'm so I'm back in a whole different mode. But I also I just be wondering from the mentality spec space, like you know, we're just talking about this a minute ago, Like at the time of Money and Thing came out. It's no record like the record. It's Nigga's still using lines from that song. In twenty twenty two, Hony people have take the chain reaction line. I mean, I know it ain't my birst, but it's still my record. It's my song,

you know what I mean. So it's like it's like how influential had was that song to hip ho hop and as a whole right, just period, and then like he talked about hating the Blood record, these are, by the way, these are my first songs. I had a song with Jada Kiss and Freeway when they didn't like each other Your Blood. They was beefing and I made a song with them and I didn't even realize they

was beefing, you know what I mean. But I'm just saying, like, you can't these are and I guess probably because I don't like And that's why I feel like with this one, I wanted, like I told him, I wanted to go on I want to go on the tour. I feel like because even on Life in fourteen seventy, I didn't even go on tour. I just was like, I made records, I'm records, I'm gonna stand in the studio. This is basically all I do. But with this one, I just I felt like he got because I went to the

show he was hit in Atlanta. I went to his show and he kept saying this to me, and I'm like, I'm trying to register this and he's like, Yo, you gotta come out. My people don't believe it's real. And I'm like, wow, what does that fucking mean? I go to every show. What are we talking about? Like, how don't they how do they live in Atlanta and don't believe that I fucked with you? Oh, I don't believe that it's real. So when he said that, I couldn't

really understand it. But when I walked on the stage, I was seeing Nigga's faces and they was like they looked like they've seen a goals And that, by the way, that gave me a whole new jode of energy for this project. I came from that show and I started I started really like visualizing exactly what was happening. I'm like, Okay, so they don't feel like I fuck with you didn't. This project need a little bit more of me, right, And we gotta, you know, we gotta do do. We

gotta really get in there right. And I feel like in the process of that, it's just started making more and more records, just more and more records, like we may record last night. What people is on the Instagram telling us, oh, now y'all, now y'all doing Now y'all making some music, And I'm like, now, we're making it right, And I had to say to him, I'm like, yo, are we making a record? That? Are we making the record that niggas think we're making? Were just making a

record because we like it? Should we be making the record that make it? But it's we like it, and we have a good judge of like the music climate of each other's worlds, and were true to ourselves. So in that aspect, everybody liked it because of that. That's that's really what it. Yeah, I mean, but we also we also without us saying it, because I don't tell him nothing about his verses. I just let him figure it out. If I come up with a sample or some high idea for a hook, I'll say, yo, this

is what I think the song should be called. But other than that, he going in, he do what you're doing? And I start taking and I'm like, yo, you should make this part. So we started on the song day

before yesterday. That felt like we was trying to make some New Orleans type bounce shit ye, and I could tell that we was close, but we ain't had no cigguard yet, right, And he was like, you know, you gotta take things out, he was telling me, and I'm like, yo, you know, I really want to say you don't like to be but he was like, Jad, I think you

gotta take things out. And then he said when we because we was trying to figure out this this thing about how like New Orleans they put this beat under every song they put Anita Baker on the bounce of New Orleans like and and most of the time the artists recorded the way they recorded and the DJ's putting on there. So we're almost trying to make the record

in that way. And that's how he wrote the rat and I and I kept saying to myself, were trying something that feels like a science project right now, like we're trying to do something that probably ain't really we're supposed to be right, And I think we both felt it. So then the next morning he's posted a video and I'm watching the video and I was getting ready to call him, and he called me, like, JD, this is what we need to do, and we came to the

studio and that ship came out. I'm talking about flying colors right, and it won't him tellingbod I need to take nothing out. He came in his motherfucker lay that ship down and shit went crazy. Mind you, I had four seconds of that by acting like they to drop the whole? Is that the one they get the gap? Yeah? They talk about that songs the original song and yeah, like h like I was telling him like that was pretty much how I even found out that we could

make raps in New Orleans. You know what I'm saying, Because everything I heard came from somewhere else. So then I was like, oh, like we we could do this and they could be there player this on the radio even though we were from him. You know what I'm saying. Like that that ship was crazy as a child to see that because it was Michael Jackson LL cool J. You know what I'm saying. That's the motherfucker's I knew, and I was like, oh like this, like I seen this, dude.

You know what I'm saying. That ship was and that I think everybody had that idea, but they were older than me. So then that's how you end up with all it's like you and LV and other people like when cash money first started and all that shit like like it was it was. They were already ready to get into so the ship was crazy, but everybody was waiting to get into music. And then motherfuckers heard Get the Game, was like, oh, all right, we can make this ship at the cribs. For some of you heard

my first time, here was an answer. Um we performed at SF. I went to the club and I heard it and I'm like, you know, as soon as I hit different beats, I'm like, what the fuck? What is that right? And I'll be trying to like decolde the beat because I'm like, I heard this. I fucking know where everything I heard this beat before, And I'm like, where did they get Where is this beat come from? And I showed them yesterday with the beat came from

the beat come from the dead. Couldn't believe Get the game the home and from New Orleans just I didn't play LLL cool. I'm like, damn, bro, he like a foul cabinet. I mother like, no, I got this, just got it. Growing up in New Orleans currency, who would you? Who did you listen? To outside of like like that was from the city, the outside of the city, or just well slick Rick was cool. Snoop was cool in the city. I was listening to you and the LV it was. It was because they had they had three

three members, but each of them was like different. So he had one nigga that was like smooth and cool and I felt like I was him, and they had one thigg that was like snatching chains and shit yellow I'm saying right, But but it was cool that we was telling him what it meant uptown niggas living violent. I played them something some of you and the records

that other day. That what I mean that was that was Yeah, yeah, before you got connected, did you were familiar with some of his music j D. Yeah, Yeah, I mean I heard him. I mean I heard him rap a bunch of times, um and and and it's like, like I said, I listened to so much rap I listened to so, I mean, I'm just music period. I'd be listening on everything um and just trying to like you know, just trying to keep up even like new stuff that's coming out, like even like the Larry Larry

June record. She was telling like I heard that when I was getting my hair cut, uh, and I was like, damn, and I and I almost was like, I'm gonna change

the beat. But glad you said that because I got told him that's actually my brother and we and just like with like we that happens so much that we don't we just damned that we're doing on purpose because it's like, oh, I wasn't around you at that time when you did that, but the funk with that and then they just do the shit too and it ain't even no thing because we like the same thing, ye like, but yeah, I was. I was listening to and they're different,

yeah different. I just I was getting a haircut. My Barba was playing his record and I'm like, yo, turn that up, and I'm listening. I'm like, damn, and I didn't tell Baba. I'm like, but but but nobody. Nobody's really speaking to it though, because I expected more people to, like, I expect that they have to tell people like damn, there in my comments like that's my brother, like we fucking you know, but but nobody, it ain't even happen.

But it sped up. His version is faster than ours, and it's a it's a different was a different field. But I also, you know, like I said, I felt, I felt like it was a time and hip hop where it was three hot records that was the same. This was a foolish Biggie record that she got it from, but Big al had it before Biggie got it right, So it's like, yeah, everybody got a little piece of

yea And they wasn't even family like that. This this this family and all they're gonna do is match They're gonna slow his ship down to match out or speed. There's nothing to match that one. But you were saying you can take like a flip or Underground said, well it sounds big, Like what do you think about that? Same? Yeah, exactly, That's what he did. That's what he do though, you know what I'm saying like that, I said, he can't help what he do. It's just a caliber work that

he put out. So you reach him fucking telephoned out. You know the sound of that. You know he still he's still gonna put Alicia keys on that bitch, and it's you know what I'm saying, So what you're gonna do? They are? You also working on a documentary the Freaknick documentary. Right, how's that come along? For someone that hasn't experienced Freaknick

like myself, can't explain it significance. I mean, that's the that's the biggest um, I guess hurdle is to try to make sure that y'all that didn't experience freak Nick um feel the energy that was actually in the city, because you know, in Atlanta right now, I'm not sure that five thousand, six thousand black people can go to Petmont Park and there's no violence. I'm not sure that that would happen. I'm not sure that that would happen

in anywhere in the United States. But Atlanta at this time was the place where people from other places where that was where it couldn't happen, that they was coming to Atlanta where it could happen, and it was like the Promised Land, right and you And so I was shooting in Petemont Park and I was actually telling people, like, in this section of the park, it was nothing but

black people everywhere, Right, It's just like Africa. Then man, and he like, I'm like, yo, but I'm living here, So I didn't I'm not really understanding that that's what it because I've seen this all the time, but the fact that it was no violence and people was outside having fun, and people was dancing and the music was playing, and it's just an energy that you know, I wish the city could get back. But at the same time, I wish every other city had this type of energy.

So I'm just I'm just trying to make sure that that that comes through the screen because that's a hard thing to try to you know, recreate and duplicate um, because the energy was just like you know, it was it was. It was real coming out this year or yeah, it's gonna be out this year. Um, it's um, it's it's coming through Hulu. Yeah, this is this is a goal. And I'm doing another one. I'm doing a Magic City documented too. Oh wow to getting into the documentary bad.

What's the artwork for something like that? Look like we went for Magic City for the I mean, I think it's gonna look like probably um shot, you know, a screen grab from some vintage video or is it like it probably would be like the way the T shirts, the bootleg T shirts was was fired doing freak the dudes that was bootleg. It ain't any crazy shirts and it was like because they was pulling all the elements

and putting it on the shirt. So like when I did the So So Death Basic All Stars covering, that's what we was trying to emulate. Freaking They Okay, you see what I'm talking about. So that's basically what it's gonna It's gonna feel like that. That's what's gonna probably feel like. Do you have like archival footage from that

time or nah? Not me. Um. You know the other thing about Freakni because I was actually I was young, too young to be a part of freakning Um because freak Nick when it really popped off, I was only nineteen, so I wasn't old enough to get in the club. So I was only seeing freak Nick from falking lot pimping type of standpoint. I was out riding around in the streets and being in the traffic, so I know what the energy on the streets were. Inside the clubs.

I didn't actually get inside the clubs still, like I said, until I turned twenty one, twenty two, twenty three years old, So he had records that were popping in those things panties that you couldn't even get into. Yeah, yeah, it's bad like that. Yeah, it's been like that that. That's almost how like I was saying, this is another interview about me, me and my style of production. While I you know, I make records the way I make records, and I write songs the way I write songs because

I didn't I was too young to know people. I was too young to even know to find an engineer. I ain't you know what I mean. I didn't have a car when I tried to make Chris Cross. I ain't even had no way to get around the city. I just had to make sitting my my room and write the songs, like if you want to get out, JD, you gotta write this ship because you ain't gonna money, you know what I mean. And people don't actually believe that.

People like even a verse on that song. I see people keep saying, like, JD, you know, we like this verse, but you know you wasn't poor, And I'm like, no, one't poor. My mom worked like a slave. That's why I say this something the song. My mom had like two three jobs. And you know what I'm saying, I wasn't poor, but I didn't have shit, you know what I mean. I mean, I put my first drummer set on lairway for two hundred dollars. If you put a drummer sh on lailway for two hundred dollars, you don't

got nothing. Well I'm concerned too. You gotta put something on lailway for two hundred dollars, you don't have shit. That's how I feel, and that's what that's what it was. So I was too young to have friends. I was too young to just have other people come around me like that. So I just was like, I don't really know nobody. I don't know no camera. Man, I can't just get out move around the city to wait kids move around now, Um, so it just wouldn't. I had

to learn, damn me everything. Yeah, speaking of moving currency, put your mom right across the street from you, yeah, man, Yeah, she she just takes me. Yeah, she takes me on. Apparently the anniversary of the day God got a little crib. So you and your mom lived right across the street from each other. Yeah, I'm eating good, good. I just wake up and walk straight to Min's crib, breakfast, lunch, dinner,

It's all good. Within like the first week she told me, she was like, I feel like Scarface checked my mom out. She's funny and ship. But she was like, yo, I'm just walking around here and she's like, man, I feel like scar Face like, damn, well we did it then you know we're straight. Yeah. And she saw me the other day sitting outside and she takes me and she was like, that's living your life. You're like, you're living your fucking life across the street. She's like, you don't

mind me curtain. She was like, and I'm very glad I could see you living your life, you know what I'm saying, Like, that's cool. And I always see her in the windows, like looking out. She just like looking out watching me wash cars and shit like that. She said. She said, it's good, bro, It's super good. I think about it a lot, Like, you know, I could stop now, you know what I'm saying, because she's straight, like straighter

than I had ever really imagine. I figured just getting her call the time was cool, or you know what I'm saying, just giving us ship, But now she's super straight. She's straight. Yeah, because that has to be like one of the most gratifying parts. Yeah, that's it, that's the one. That's what I did everything, you know, outside of that it's taking you know, I got I'm lacing my son, you know what I'm saying. But it's not about me. None of this ship about me, you know. So it's cool. Yeah,

it's cool that I that I'm like being purposeful. You know. It's a cool seeing you in Zion Williamson, Bro. You know that's the homie dog, that's the homie. I'm honored Daddy. Daddy even acknowledged me to to that level and holding me up that way, you know what I'm saying, because do it in a big eye and motherfucker come to the game with jetlife. Jacobson, drop farty, don't come fuckers doing all kind He did that fucking dunk against the Suns, got the big fine, come over, getting me the jersey

and shit. Yeah, it was cool every Pelican Yeah game. I've been thinking about traveling to one of they roll games because it's been getting a little rough for us on the road. He's enjoyed watching this happen to me because it's kind of it kind of shut me down. We lost the bust and yesterday it was hurtful. Yeah, but it's all right. Sorry, I figure I'm gonna catch one of the when they roll games, probably when they play Phoenix again. So I could see what's up with

Chris Paul and see what Booker drive to the game. Yeah, I fucked with Bro because it's called collection. It's cool, so I want to see what they're bringing the game. You know, when he started playing for the Pelican, like, I mean, I just had the game, and I guess after a while, and then you know, last I did the warm ups and ship for them. We did Jet Life Jet Life appall, and we did a collab with the Pelicans. We did like sweatsuits and warm ups and

ship for them. So at that point he was already wearing the ship and just was like, all right, where this came from? They're like broken, Like, oh all right. And then he fucked with me, just musically anyway. So and then I'm cool me, like, you don't come on, dude, you know, yeah, you're gonna wear the jacket you got j Jet Life man. Yeah. Yeah all the time too. Bro Bro brough him some shitty applied the game. Immediately. I was on it. I was on it. Touch on

someone meeting Jad. You put it a tweet out a couple of months ago. You say, It's crazy when you meet someone you thought was a jet out your whole life,

you have a conversation you realize they never were. Yeah, I can't go into that like that, but yeah, I can't go into it like but but I mean, you know, that's just how I feel, like I you know, because I'd be thinking, like, like I said, I don't be having people around me when I'll be making records like right now, like this rugged, like I said, we make I make all these records. Me and him. We're just the ones in the studio be cos he here, come in and you know, but for the most part, this

project has just been me and Bro. So when i'd be making records, I'd be thinking that other producers be doing the same shit I'm doing. I'll be thinking they, you know, they tapped in and do shit the same thing, or they're doing this and they're doing that. And then when I have a conversation with them, I'm like, exactly, that's what I said about us being cool. I haven't been around. Wait a minute, I thought there's a Jedi like and I mean, you know, just because I'm saying, like, niggas,

don't treat me like no JEDDI. But they be treating these other guys like they jetters. They act like it, Nigga. That's what I keep telling me. You are like unaware, You're just so just regular and chilling. I'm gonna be wanting nobody. I'm putting my hoodie on and I just hear what I'm saying. You know what I'm saying. But that's why. That's why. No, But that's how it is. I just feel I could I I you know, if I meet somebody that I feel like supposed not that

I meet him. All I talk to somebody that I feel like, it's like a we are acting like he's a musical god and his person is they did so much in data and I have a conversation with them and they ain't up on shit that we're talking about. I'd be I'm lost a little bit, like what wait a minute, and IM and I've been walking around and I'd be walking away talk and it's fucked up because Twitter is the only person I could talk to you

because I don't want to. I don't even want to tell nobody else this like yo, this thinking you know what I mean, Like I just don't, don't you know, I don't know, and we're just having a conversation like that last night, and I don't think it's a bad thing. Maybe it's not. Maybe it's maybe I'm just a guy that's just like I'm you know, I'm I am hip hop. Yeah, basically, if we fifty week fifty, I am hip hop. I'm everything about hip hop. I study b boring, I study graffiti,

I study dancing, every aspect. And one of the aspects of hip hop is to just be like this, just like that's why all these records are here. It's just to sit here and do like this and read the credits and look and be like okay, Roger Troutman Zap and you know, you do your own education, right, So when you're doing all this and then you meet somebody and you like, I'm fucked up. I mean like yo, I thought, dudes, yeah, like oh oh, And then I

start finding our knicks, be having help associate producers. I ain't gonna front though. I felt that same energy when I remember reading the credits on American Gangster, the work you did on Jay Z's album and like falling and Success, I'm like, wait, j D did that, Damn Okay. I actually introduced no Id too, jay Z, Like I took him with me to that session when I was doing Falling, I took No Idea with me. He didn't. They didn't know each other. Wow, and and and No Idea was

in the corner while I was making that beat. He was in the corner with his headphones on making another beat, and Hold was like, what what you got? And he was asking everybody around. It was a bunch of producers in the studios, like what you got? And I was like, he got some shit. I'm telling you why he plugged that shit up? And the next thing, you know, they

don't made the whole album together. Wow, you know, I mean still you know no I D's by Yeah you know he heard Kanya say that, so he definitely knew who he was. But this is the first time that they actually got a chance to like really connect like that. People forget that run where he did those records. I mean he say he came here specifically. That's why I say. People don't come here to just get like what they already been doing. They come here to try to step

out into a light that they haven't had. Yeah, man, yeah, amazing stepping into the light. Man, this project. Is this gonna be like a series? I know, we say it's gonna have other EPs. Is it like Volume one VITU two? Or is it different names every Yeah? No, no, no, I think it's gonna be. We already got three volumes already to put away. Y'all know the name of the album. Now, we didn't even get the name. They understand what's gonna be. Yeah,

for motivational use only, for motivational use. I wanted to name it Quiet Giants at first, but then we settled them on that because that's exactly what it's for. For motivational use only Volume one. I'm motivated and it's all about like it self help books. You know you got the problem you're thinking about something to throw this on. There's a self help book. You know what I'm saying.

It will drop in volumes. You know, I think you've got a lot too currency, I mean you and all the rappers and make me more step my game up and see if I'm living right now? That's what this is like. Like Like what instructions? Yeah, like when your recent project on that you can't make the soup instruction, like even recently your latest project you're talking about like how you had the date date. It's not the same

as the date job. I looked at my watch and I was like, damn man, I yeah, yeah, you gotta have both options on your rules. Talking about I just got that one bubble and it's not you know, feel you could just wait until you got the bread to get that one. That's all. That's why I said, just because I get him. Sometime I get him, but I never can convince myself to keep them. Like in my watchbox, I end up like giving it to the homey or something like that. That's a good I got the world

in my name. Oh I should have won the fucking looking colors to show shut. Yeah. So I'm trying to get him to open the trunk with all his I got a Jacob that he wouldn't know it exists. I'm trying to get him to bring I remember another lyric that you had, So you found money in your pocket that you forgot. Yeah, I found I found the Jacob and some bread. Yeah, partment, I had to go and clear all this shit out of apartment. I was just paying rent on the ship and then I was all right,

that's dumb because I haven't been there. So long, like one of my homies was staying there for a while. So he kept it full like maybe a year or two, and then stopped. And then I started paying paying on it again, and I went to clean it out and I found like my watch from young money and some bread that I had. I don't know what I was, what I was putting it away for, but I found me a cool little piece. Yeah, I had a good

summer when that happened. I said that. I said that on the gym, like I definitely, I meant the fuck out that. I was proud of myself too. I want to watch in the video there you go said something that they faked your drive had put up a clip at him in a little way, like your song has

never come out. It's twenty twenty three songs that people are fascinating body in facted like you know you the early days of your money and you being with Wayne so close, and like that didn't work for you, but you're building your own career Like yeah, well, I mean I knew what I wanted to do, and I knew that I couldn't do it under brother, um brother, the

way I wanted to do it. I was gonna have to be young, money and and and if you're rolling with somebody and you and the whole time you you're trying to build an empire, and you got shit in your mind and you're doing a disservice to them, Like that's fake. You know what. I don't want nobody wrong me doing that. I'd rather you keep it a hunting and I could help you get in a position to do what you want to do, because you're not really gonna be able to help me because you're thinking about

doing other shit. So I just had to keep it a hunting. And it was like I gotta do all shit, you know what I'm saying. That's why I wasn't no thing. And that's why when this the other volumes come out, you'll see what we say. Yeah yeah, yeah yeah. And before we get out here, that better be on beat ours list. Right there? Sounds good? Man, Man, Whatever happen happened, it didn't. It didn't bother me. It didn't bother me. This year, I honestly expect the continuance to be there,

but I figured we came out so early. He let us know that was a song because because there's another list where you put songs yes, wasn't. That wasn't. There's a verse way you put that. There's a list way you put verses out, like well, I know I showed up on somebody shit, Like even Lebron thought, so what I mean that. I'm like, oh, you know what, man,

it's all good. It's all good. You know what I'm saying. Well, I mean, he didn't say this is gonna be the This feels like one of the most anticipated rapp records years. We went in a long time to see you guys of those the most anti anticipated and be honest about

put us up at the top, up up. Not that list matters, but you know this ship you kind of don't matter by the way it rocked the change because soon as you say something, yeah, motherfuckers, go back up on the streaming things like into into uh like go back up into the countdowns. You know what I'm saying.

Because even for the few lists that I did make, I saw continue was like show back up and I was like, yeah, but dig if this nigga being guy was a sick and be back up like it's just drop you know, like you know he didn't want to toss no brand, It's just money. You're literally just giving money away. Say same thing I told him when he said, y'all know what this is, I'm like, you just gave me a big ass bag of money. You don't even know, like thank you. But when you do that, that's what

you're doing. You giving motherfuckers like having much you get for a million streamers in the money you give them like twelve bands, you know, giving niggas like twelve. That's why I say. He just said that he was the most Christmas just took me off the ship. And I guess it because I just knew was on. Because you know what I did. I went, I went looking for the disrespect. I was like, let me start at the bottom. You know what I'm saying. Of course I'll be down there.

And I was like, oh wait, no I'm not at the bottom. Hey, man, now say oh I just stopped taking everybody's phone. Man, you know what, that's bullshit. Man, I don't think that's gonna be the case. Said that was bullshit. That's bullshit about being on the motherfucking list. Nigga, this the jet life, you know what I mean? He started off right, he said, he says, like you know anticipated record, I mean like I said, when he came

there this time for us to finish this record. That's what I was telling walking down the hall, like you, I'm gonna keep posting this way so people really want to hear and she what's going on. But but I want to say this to everybody out there that was that keeps saying I'm holding the music and they used to him putting the records out the way out. The only reason that's happening is because, like I said, this marketing. Yeah,

they're seeing this. I'm learning every time. Oh y'all, Oh y'all want this type of song, okay, or y'all like this type of song. Okay, all right, So let me go back in the studio and make this. But the comments are changing to all right, bro, enough with the cool posts like and Leeds to give us a date. We got, we got you, we got we got you, saying that I'm just out of the way because I ain't never know nobody who went on toll with Michael Jackson.

I never meant nobody who breakdancing and who then we dated j Jackson. Yeah, you know I'm talking about nobody work. I was never tripping. I was never tripping about that. Damn. That's that's why, you know, Oh my god, think about the body's work. It is what it is because because because the mother was on the wall and ship y'all went for and I was like, damn, I knew this nigga for two years. I ain't never said nothing about none of that shit. Y'all boys came in, Well, y'all

know what this is, man, rapp right, our podcast. We appreciate you guys. This is the right the start right, that's right, that's right, that's the start of it right there. Holy shit, just just one of the most anticipated. Yeah, make that list, be that get it right, get it right now, y'all, y'all make your own list, man, you know what I mean. Make y'all own that shit count. Man. It's all good man. I'm just glad I was able

to rule some joints up. And that's cool. Man. Last time I couldn't smoke, so j get get some shit out there way too. He needed to inform some people some shit. Did we touch on the fact that he was the first rap artist on MTV crips? I know, I think we did, but yeah, that was before we got back on Now that now that we're now that we're miked up. Now that were mike up, let's address it exactly. He said, you know you ain't gotta you had to bottle Chris stal and show the the Bentley.

He said, you ain't got one of you ain't a ball at got one of these. Not a big dog, big dog. Everybody says there were a big dog. You don't have one of these. You're not a big dog. The reason that stuck with me is because he was the first rapper on MTV crips. I had been watching MTV crips. But its motherfucker's it shock, you know what I'm saying, all right, But then it was fucking with the icebergs and the sideways had in the due rag. Yeah. So I'm like, hold on, like, you can't do this

right man. It didn't look how ship worked, bro. I told y'all before I lied, told my mom and told my mom. I was with Master Pete to explain why they had the range rover and from my house because my homes was doing some wild ship and they had the range rover at the crib when there shouldn't have been. When I was like, no, I've been hanging out with Master Pete and that wasn't the truth. But then lord behold, I started hanging out with me. Now I saw that

fucking MTV crib. The shit stuck with me. Yea, all right, I imagine shit like this. Even when I was with Young Money, we shot a video with Little Wayne and Levant and Bro was was on or he did the record and ship, and I was like, I think maybe I'll fucking be around dude. You know what I'm saying that that would be fucking cool, you know, but it just wasn't my time and didn't and didn't when I mentioned them when I named the record after him, I still didn't think that because I feeled it was too

fun gone at that point. You know what I'm saying. I'm like, you know, now I'm underground. I'm doing I didn't call my niche out and Bro exists on another planet, so it's cool. I'm gonna just say something because everybody saw this and now I know, you know what I'm saying, Like why Stuggar is because it was the first time a rapper was on MTV crib like just Cribs in itself was was groundbreaking because you got to see motherfucker's

to see if they're really here. You know, like I think whole Colgan's rich and the baggage house and the dogs riping the monster truck. I write whole Coding rich. So it's like, no, I write money and the thing. You know what I'm saying, video shoot over baby? What's up? All that shit was in the road. They got like, all right, man, that's my dog right there. I didn't

give a fuck. No mo yeah, hell yeah yeah. I had to have that, had to have that ship after that report because I said, that's only they used to read, right, that's all I used to read. It's like, I know, it's crazy because it's like when Biggie said, end up, real niggas do, and he said I bought, I bought. I bought the mafia, a crib, pool tables and candy.

He talked about that. He talked about my house. Wow, you know what I mean, because that's where people used to come over my house and like you say, he come over my house. They see these books and I used to have candy just out, and I had a pool table and all the video games. Right, that's what you and that's what like when Big first came there, we did the B side he was. He was blown away, like like I didn't know niggas can have this type

of ship. And I was like, oh, that's when I started realizing how different Atlanta was as far as the way black people lived out here compared to what I just New York this period. Yeah, you know, and that's when I that's because I didn't never know why more and more people was moving to Atlanta and they were saying, I want my kids to move there, and not even when like Minister Society at the end of the movie that's Off trying to go to Atlanta had my nigga

running up place on the porch. He came out with such forces guns had that running. They wasn't even gonna hit that. And the fucking little big way under the thing. The niggas were hitting at you, brother, they told him, and they hit the positive DUDECI hit the movies this spuncier, Damn. The hunt is on, Damn, Damn, and you are the pre god. Damn. Rock got that nigga killed. Rock fucking spoke that shit into existence. Rock got that nigga smoke.

That's crazy Black movies. Give me the top five greatest Black movies. Oh Man super Fly because he's the only one who won nineteen seventy two. The real he did. The only thing he lost was his fake best friend Eddie wasn't really his part, That's it. The MAC was cool, but they fucking you know, his mom got smoked, you know, super Fly truck turner. Isaac has boys in the hood. So sorry because you know we lose Rickey there, but we see a fucking cold ass set of Lottle rileson

and that stuck with me forever. Tales from the Hood, that's your top Yeah, yeah, Tails from the Hood and yeah what other what Jad's Ranger was a better black horrible because look at my top five covered each job, covered each before and before he gets upset, before he gets up the winds with Michael Dad, all right, there you go the fuck by work? Hey, you should do something, tired of it? What it meantime? This is yeah, you know what I mean for motivational use sold j D.

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