Yeah, it was to raporate our podcast. My name is beat Out Elliott Wilson. Elliott is so hard to say goodbye.
Although we come to the end of the world.
Yes, sir, season finale, Season finale, rapperate our podcast.
Man, shout to the amazing people at Interval.
You know we want through a lot beat out in this on this podcast journey since twenty fifteen. But this is the official close out of the second season of our partnership with the good folks at Interval. Yes, Sir, I can't believe we hear him mass but you know, closing out at the good time, man, Howiday sees him.
Man a gift to the people, you know, a gift.
Twenty six weeks later. Man, who would have thought it? But you got to give a shout out to like you said, the good people are Interval Jake Samara, I'm leaving out some names, Big Boss, any Coy, the Big Boy Island of course. I got Martin's over there, Martin, yeah, yeah, absolutely, Lara, Sarah over there too, yeah, Sarah, Laura of course. And hyper House our amazing production people.
There's the right here, man. Dyl Dylan got shot dealing.
Out absolutely, and of course we have the best photographers, the best shooters in the game. Man, he's telling about how the one of our best guests of the years stole one of our photographers beat out. I tell him about that, Man, I'm still tight about that. Burna boys stole Nicky from us. Man boy took a liking to Nikki Rose, Or of Photographers New York, and now she's on the road with him. Man touching continents, passport stamps. Yeah,
man from b X to Berlin. So shout out to Nicki, Kenya, Steve. He's in the mix, you know. So we we have a good we got a good news assembly. Man.
Don't forget our Atlanta crew.
We got Trav and his crew and Riot Riders out here shooting another adult female photographer we have on the team in it. So yeah, man, we got to work with a lot of great creatives this year. Man, it's been exciting, man, absolutely, and especially our last episode with two Changs, Man Chains, Speedy Recovery, the two Change l Yeah. You saw him this past weekend, right, Yeah, I was at some of our Basil Miami things. Sean Dickerson shout to him. He girls like all the cool parties from
LA to wherever, and yeah, Wayne was there. Change was their adapt up Change. And then that very night, I guess he left the club and got into a really terrible like free car smash up car accident. But you know he's let us all know he's you know, he's on a speedy recovery. So I just want to send loving prayers and strength to him, and I hit tech up and you know, he said he was recovering.
So but yeah, we love we.
Love Change man, and we just had a great episode with him, and I felt like that was a really dope conversation, you.
Know, about the Collige Girl project with him and Wayne and you know.
Way and I didn't realize that had been so long since he was back on the Rapparado podcast, right, Yeah, it's like, what six years? Can we take crazy crazy man? It's been a minute. So I'm happy to have him back on. Man, that was a really good episode. Make sure y'all check that out.
He could recuperate a candy lamb. Man.
They should just set him up in that strip club, you know, saying give a little bend the side of the room, you know, I mean, rest up at some pineapple juice. Sappy a man but now we've had some amazing episodes this year, man, you know to how the creator obviously, what was some of your what was some of your.
Favorites this year?
I mean everyone is my favorites, like asking, hey, what's your favorite finger? You know, we got Jack follow.
The Middle One, Man the Middle One.
Saus Moody, Joe Budd and Charlamagne Killer, Mike the Butcher, and we can't even forget about last season. We did the NB A young boy, We did Rich Paul, you know and being a young boy two point six million, man, don't don't mess around with the numbers. Beverage Paul is a classic. What's that guy?
Uh?
Brent fires Man teaso touchdown your favorite? Your favorite battle rapper? He was at the spotse gche Gotti tear it down these battle rapers, Yeah, Gotti, every fucking bar man.
Nah.
Man, I thought we had a great uh wide ranging of guests. You know, can't forget the ladies again, know Monet and editorya Monet and the Queen and all these other you know, multi talented artists.
Man got a couple of top tier artists.
Man, and just you know, just the consistency, Man, I really appreciate, you know, how we approach these things, and you know people kind of sometimes take for granted.
You know, here's another great interview, but this is This ain't easy, kids, This ain't easy. You know what I mean? It damn sure is.
And I think today's episode adds to that great catalog of guests that we had this year. Oh, Guccie Man and BG that sounds in sane, Gucci Man, Gucci Man and Beg together, right, b Jizzle, what a dunke it nobody.
Would have dunck it man. Welcome home to b Gizzl Man.
It takes me back to the cash Muddy ex Excel days and you.
Know Vanessa dealing with those animals over there, and uh, you know he.
Did Hot Boys covers and Jewey covers and Wade covers and yeah, DG that did a real big man.
Came back with a full.
Natty get dreads and full hair, and you know, it's just so great to chop it up with that brother.
And he still stulls good man.
He still sells good in that microphone. He definitely does. He still has that Louisiana draw that we're known to love, and uh, you know, he's like you said he has a mister B and of course the united with Gucci Man. He's had an out of a year with his new album Breath of Fresh Air. He's you know, killing the features. He's worked with guys like Jay Cole, the Baby. You know, Gucci Man is a prolific uh, a prolific artist. So this is like just adding to his canning of of
of records. And I don't understand how we got cool with him, b Like we did the whole We did the whole revolting with him a year or so ago. And then when this run of breast with the surprise album, you know, shout out to Ashley at Atlantic, he reached out or said he wanted she wants us to get the interview with him at BG BG still on, Like what's the what's the thing we got to he's at the halfway halfway house, Yes exactly, so we had limited time.
We went to Las Vegas to get it done, you know, me and beat out to go out there and get the story. But you know, goowap Mass, you know, very respectful, showing a lot of love.
Man. That's crazy to know.
The week like are cool with guwap Man, you know, what I'm saying, He's dangerous, man. That's the thing. You don't know. We'll never know what Gucci gonna get, gonna happy.
Gucci grow, Gucci.
Rappy, and we got rapped her Gucci, right. That was fun to watch exactly chop it up with BG. I got to ask that question, you know, me and me and beat out the big fans of the Prodigy. H n I see album rest Rest in Peace Prodigy and it just to get to ask him about that collaboration, right, young black entrepreneur, Yeah, young black entrepreneurs. I got to ask him about chopping the city and the ghetto turned twenty five, which he couldn't even believe. I can't believe
it's been twenty five years of that. Next year, we also talked about life fatter, Cash Money is time in prison. Yeah, and of course Gucci Man and his project and work with so many artists. It's a really great episode man. Yeah, I was really excited to hear about Gucci Man just expressed his love and admiration for Cash Money and other artists that he was listening to on the come up.
And you know, it's a.
Dream for him to be making the whole record with a beg and putting this out and it shout out up to do some Mike will made. I heard he tells us that he had played a key role in getting those guys together to get the record done. Absolutely, and also like the fact that she talked about the mixtapes. Man, you brought up that mixtape graphic that's circulating on the internet about Gucci not being on the Mount Rushmore. Oh yeah, yeah, And I'm saying it's a criminal that can go up
on it. What do you think of that list? He was mad the fifty cent wasn't getting enough respect, right. I think he said, yeah, that tricked me out. I'm like, yo, rap revisionism, that's like a subgenre, Yo. The only know as a TV Bug's spelling, Like you said, he's Aaron spelling. He's normally live you know about uh the big state. Man, that's crazy. But I think Gucci deserves maybe not Mount Rushmore, but maybe a bust we'll give him on his own statue.
But I'm wondering, though, where's Gucci may gonna be on these beat out end of the end of the year list.
Man, It's almost that time. Man, I'm scared for you. Man, you're gonna be allR You're gonna changing up again what we're doing.
How was it looking? I said, what's coming together?
I might need security? You know, I'm making your list of checking it twice so we'll find out real soon. You are like like the evil say at the closet rap at this time of year, man, with these lists, Man, everybody's on baiting breath. Man, you know, Griselda got the phone lines open already. You know, Griselda. I might get died on uh a Man's eleven or something. I don't know too far.
Hey, yo, beat out, Yo, you still mess it up?
Hey, Yo, you're still messing so good.
I don't see rope streets on this list. I don't see it.
Man.
I'm waiting for that call right now. Operators are standing by, so I know you're not gonna give me the lead, not that yet. But what's I forget the rollout?
So you do that? You do the artists first. That shakes the game up right, and then you do the albums. How do you do? Remember?
Man, I just be I just be freestyling, elliot, you know, like I might do artists first, I'm doing songs, guests versus and the albums. So okay, I don't know what to come first. So artists, albums, guests versus. Yeah, and what's the other category? Artist albums, guests versus and songs best rap songs?
Okay, what categories? Man? Four categories at the Grammys. Man, the beat Out it wasn't coming Man, the beat Out.
It wasn't covering. Everybody's scared, you know what I'm saying. So that'll keep us hot while want not a little hiatus right now. Everybody will have to tear it up beat out going into next year. So when we return, you know what I'm saying, we'll already have that beat out being the most hated man of hip hop media, you know what I'm saying.
The new list is coming out, the new list.
But in the meantime, I'm going golfer Man, Mosquito, mosquitoes, Man, a little tobo for the rapper up boys. But we will be back man and bring you some more greatness. Man, I'm confident of that. But in the meantime, it's a hell of a way to close out the year. Wants to get a shout out to who wops out to beat JIZZL.
Yes, sir, we know you're gonna enjoy this one man.
Rap rate all podcasts. Yeah, rap right up podcasts. Yo, it's the rap Rate all podcasts. My name is Beat Elliot, Wilson Elliott. It's a new dynamic duo in the town. Oh my god, we would have thought it BG Gucci Man, he was just.
A dynamic duo.
Man.
These guys are legends, man, legends of hip hop, man hip hop, all the famous man coming together.
How does this partnership happen? Well, be not getting right to it.
I've been a fan of BG, you know what I'm saying, even before I even put out my first commercial album, Like you know what I'm saying, nine eight nine and nine, like his first taste, like all this shit I've been on, so to me, it's been like a wishing to make it even before I even thought about it, you know what I'm saying, Like I know, I know he was an artist that I like, you know what I'm saying. And I don't really gravitate toward on a certain few artists.
A lot of times you build younger artists, Like what do you still see that that BG just sort of hall of fame already still has to contribute to the game.
We were around the same age and we've been through a lot of the same things. Got we both got a story BG.
First of all, welcome home brother, man. We did some amazing work with you in the Cash Money Days with and that's Satin. It's just great to see you man physically home.
Man.
What you've been through.
Man, you man, I appreciate that.
You've hit the ground running.
Man.
How does it feel to be just out here and just like getting right back to that music?
Man? It feel good. Man. There's nothing short of a blessing. Man, you know what I mean to you know, be gone as long as I was gone for twelve and a half years. You know what I'm saying. It's just a you know, come back out here. People still be receptive to the music to even must still want to hear me, man. I mean, it's just it let me know that the music that I contributed past the test of time, right, you know what I'm saying. But yeah, I just feel in the man and blessed.
Were you writing a lot in prison?
Oh?
Yeah, I had my I used to go through ups and downs, you know what I'm saying. Like it was a time where I just took like two years old because at first I couldn't see the end, you know what I mean. So I really thought it was over with for me. You know what I'm saying. I'm like, I thought they had closed the curtains. But you know, the closer I got to the door, I kind of was feeling like, damn, man, I still might have a
shot at it, you know what I'm saying. So you know, I picked my pen back up, you know what I mean. But yeah, I was off and on writing book.
To answer your question, Guccie, is that also what connected to you to like obviously you came out of your situation, hit the ground running, like you know, to give the brother a chance to like really get back on his feet the right way.
One hundred percent. I thought about like the thing people were doing for me, you know what I'm saying, Like Drake coming to my house when I was in the Halfway House, just the inspiration mode, Mike Will and Dolph, you know what I'm saying, Just like all those people, you know what I'm saying, Like Hippie, you know what I'm saying.
They ain't had to do that, yeah, at that time of their careers.
Yeah, so with the co record happened was at the begetting of sort of just testing the waters here if you guys had that chemistry, Like, what was it like with putting that cold record together with Michae What made it?
Man?
Honestly, the core record happened. Me and Mike was in the in the in the studio or doing the album together. Right, he played the record. You know what I'm saying. For me, he was like, Man, I got something I want you to hear, and he played it and I was like, Man, get Gucci on the.
Phone, kind of like the video, so that's close to the l Like.
Man, I'm like, Man, I'm like, man calling Man, tell him I need to get on their a SEP. You know what I'm saying. Mike made it happen.
You ain't miss a step on that record though, PG.
Nah, thank you man. I appreciate that. Man, I appreciate that.
And you guys had of another record, Choppers and Bricks, that we were privy too.
Man, we actually got like a bunch of records, you know what I'm saying. But yeah, the Choppers and Bricks, that's definitely a super hard record man. I mean, like he said, we both had a story this tell I've been a fan of WIP, you know what I'm saying. And for real, I manifested this whole album from myself. You know what I'm saying. I used to be when
he went home. I just was watching. Now he was moving and you know, watching all the moves he was making, and I just want to follow in his footsteps, you know what I'm saying, Because I know what I hadn't been through was pretty much similar, right, you know what I'm saying. And I was like, damn, man, I know would do it. I could do it, you know what I'm saying, especially with the drink and the lean and the popping the pills and you know, just the wile
and stuff. And I was like, man, yeah, Now he let me know, Like man, yeah, and I could be done. So I was like, man, when I get out, man, I got to go link up with run man and make this happen.
You guys have been communicating for a while when he was behind the wall, like now the first start.
Now Mike will put it together. But Mike Will, I was a fan of his because I always been talking about like you know what I'm saying, We've always been shining him out and we just you know what I'm saying, He really put it together for me, Like, hey, you know you need to fuck with BG, and like, hell yeah, I wanted, you know what I'm saying, put us together.
And actually when I was reading your book, I was reading your book and you sent me a shout out in the book when he was talking about I was like like, oh, Ship, you know what I'm saying.
Ship Real?
I was like, yeah, nah, that was real when I went when I'm telling you, when I was I read your book twice. Actually, but when I was reading a book and you was talking about the situation you and Julie, you know what I'm.
Saying, Ship, Wait, you share what that is in case people don't know.
I mean, read the book.
That's really good.
Books in your corner? Were the other artists that were supporting you during that time?
What doing my incarceration just you know, since I've been home.
What you mean, why are you incarcerated?
Uh? Yeah, yeah? Most definitely my man Boosy, you know what I'm saying. He walked pretty much the whole Vietnam with me and my man t I. You know what I'm saying. He was there for me. You know what I'm saying. Throughout my big bird Man was there for me. It was, it was, I mean, it was a few people that.
Forget you had the moment when you was with t I with Grand Hustle Woman. I remember we did a cover with that when.
You was Yeah, yeah Hustle Yeah Tip Tip co executive produced the album with me. I wouldn't actually signed the Groundhousse I was signing Atlantic, but yeah, t I definitely played a part in the album and the whole process.
Even two Change. He had a song called free BG on his last album.
Well fact, that's shout out the two chains Man, that's my man. Man Change go way way back like two thousand and three, two thousand and four, but yeah, Changed my dog. He definitely was screaming free see.
Or it's on the Bricks and Choppers record.
I noticed that you made a point of saying on the song that you're independent, right was why did you decide to go that route instead of going like cash money? Was it offer presented to you?
I mean, I mean, I haven't been home nothing, but you know, two and a half months, you know what I'm saying, not even three months yet, so you know, I just want to that's the wall. Really, I want to show you know what I can do on my own. You know what I'm saying. I just ain't want to Russian or nothing, you know what I mean, So keep my options open, you know what I'm saying.
Well, why do you think you're so decisive when it comes to the artists.
I feel like when you make that decision you want to rock with somebody, you just jump to it and you execute it.
I think it's like one of my my biggest attributes. Actually, you know what I'm saying, not being scared to fuck with discreets so fuck with people, you know what I'm saying. Most artists when I was coming up, they all was like, bougie, they're cool now, but like they was like.
I'm seriously, they wouldn't they weren't.
They felt like there was on this high horse and they were gonna they wasn't gonna open the door to you know, no little artists, you know what I'm saying. So as I always see it, like I almost never do like be like that.
I think if you do a great balance of with ten seventeen, you're constantly you're staying active first and foremost, then you're always building younger artists, but at the same time you collaborate off your reputation respect you have in the industry. The other artists want to mess with you. We see you with Jake Cole. It's like, oh shit, Goop and Jake Cole, you know what I mean.
Yeah, that's me and Jacob behad post this. They had supposed to do a song since like COVID, but it took like two three years for us to like really put together that one song, you know what I'm saying, Not just that one song, but like it took two or three years for us to make one record, you know what I mean. But we still kept in touch.
Why do you think that's the bore for you to kind of connect to other artists that are in the space like currently.
I think that's what I do.
Like, you know what I'm saying. I'm a fan of music. I make music. I consider myself a professional and my door's open, you know what I'm saying, Beach.
You know, obviously Gucci's always worked with new artists, But while are you incarcerated, how are you getting hip to the new music?
Like word the artists that you were listening to.
Oh yeah, man. I mean I'm a fan of music period, right, so you know, I consider myself somebody that's part of the community. So you know, I definitely kept my ears, you know, open head, you know what I'm saying to what was going on? But yeah, I was. I was listening to a lot of Little Baby, a lot of Money Bag Yo, a lot of little Dirt, you know what I'm saying, Shot Glizzie Migos I was listening to. I was listening to pretty much everything what I'm saying. Yeah, no, that's a fact, I say.
You with a new joint of Kevin Gates and Sexy Red Man.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, shout after my man Gates. Man. He reached out to me and was like, man, I got a record. You know what I'm saying for you to get on the record was actually men Gates on it at first, you know what I'm saying. And then when I heard it again, well, he reached out and say he was putting Sexy Red on the record. I was like, oh shit, that's gonna make it even hotter, you know what I'm saying. And then when I heard it again, she was on it and she killed it.
Yeah, and you're still working on your own stuff too hard. The Street's two point five and three on the way.
Oh yeah. Actually, when me and WIP coming first with the shoppers and Bricks, you know what I'm saying, Like, that's gonna set the tone for everything else, you know what I'm saying. So the Gucchin and BG mixtape coming. Then I got a mixtape coming called Live from the Halfway House. And then I got The Heart of the Streets two point five, which produced by Mike Will made it, he did the whole album. And then I got The Heart of the Streets three. And I'm just I'm just bailing my catalog.
Man, say what, speaking of the catalog, where does the hunger come from? Just you already a Hall of famer. You all fame with the Hot Boys, your Hall of Famer solo like you bought the world blain bling.
I mean, you know what I'm saying.
I've been gone man, Like well, you know, to my credit, I was able to put in a lot of work before I went the chair. I think I got like thirteen fourteen solo albums, like three High Boy albums, couple of Choppa City Boy albums, a bunch of mixtapes and all that, But I felt like I was on the sideline for like twelve and a half years. Ain't feel like I was. I was, you know what I'm saying.
So I feel like I'm playing ketchup what I'm saying, And a lot of people, probably you know, thought I lost it, right, So you know, I just want to show that, you know, it's it's it's in me. It's not on me, you know what I mean. So yeah, and I got a lot to say, I got a lot to talk about, got a lot to get off my chest. So yeah, it's gonna take all that, you know what I mean.
You know he still had it.
Nah, you gotta strike when the fire is still hot, and you gotta go, like you gotta go now. And everybody missing, Everybody want to hear him, you know what I'm saying. That include me in the whole like community, and like the young kids need to hear the story of like you know what I'm saying, Okay, I'd have been through this and just the good side of it and just the bad side of it, you know what I'm saying, Like they need to hear that, not just kids who ain't even ever heard of BG before you
know what I'm saying. And plus I was like, you still got all of us who grew up listening to him. You know what I'm saying, He inspired all these artists.
How competitive is it when you guys are in the studio? Make you want to still shark and still? When he told me, let's do the table, start sending me records. You know what I'm saying, it came apparent in me like soon, like down all these songs hard. You know what I'm saying, I ain't lying to.
It was a couple of records that I sent him and he sent back that I don't want to change my birth.
I called him like, wow, man, you crushed me on this. I think I might need to go back in, but I ain't go. You can't do that. We can't do that.
No, that's a fact that's here to hit me, Like, oh man, you got off on this record.
I'm like, that's what's up.
But it was a friendly competition, but I think we pushed each other to you know what I'm saying, go hard, And it came out to be what it is.
Because it hasn't been any previous collaborations. Right before it's just crazy because you know, you guys have work with a lot.
Of people for.
It was overdue. It was overdue.
Speaking of Calo, you talking about go Out. You won't stop, man, We can't keep tracking. How many mixtapes to your albums you have been I'll say it earlier, like when you put the Call that Black record out January.
Look at it now.
It's like you put all these records out that led to Breath for Fresh Air. It's almost like you spent the whole year rolling out an album.
Was that the intent?
No, it wasn't the intent.
But I kind of got inspired after you know, I started singing scringing together like two or three Ruggords and they start having success. I'm like, I need to keep it going, you know what I'm saying. And then I just like I'm gonna just push myself. And then I'm like, I'm gonna drop problem in June is July because I had a lot of good Ruckers in and sequence. But then I'm like, nah, I'm gonna wait. The ten something team. It was just, you know what I'm saying, It just
made sense. You never just so that's just.
Really what it is.
Maybe some people think I waited too long, you know what I'm saying, Because you're like, Okay, after you came with this rook and and this record, aren't you going just drop off? I'll take you. But I was having fun just dropping the singers like you were saying, so I just kept going.
Nothing you did. I thought it was cool. Is you kind of paid homise to your history?
Right?
Like with the videos you went back to the Atlanta Braids, Jersey, the Yellow Women, they like what made you pay?
How much? Kind of to yourself and your legacy in a sense.
Because everybody else be doing it, you know what I'm saying, people making hits out of your song, sampling your songs, and like I'm like, let's say BG and master P for instance. You know what I'm saying, I would be sampling all these songs.
To me.
It's like, man, I'm big fans of them. You know what I'm saying. The old stuff they used to make. You know what I'm saying, because it was part of my It's part of my life, you know what I'm saying, part of my high school years, my trap years, you know what I'm saying. Like I did a lot of stuff to those records.
You know what I'm saying.
So I feel like that's a cheat code. You feel what I'm saying, you know what I'm saying. But so I'm like, even though they didn't do it, I'm like, I'm gonna do it. Then you feel what I'm saying. And that's what my tip that do it, my tempt the doing it right.
Like Elliott say, you had a busy year this year, Gucci like the Breath of fresh Air that title, like what does that represent?
You have the family on the cover?
Yes, I understand. It was just a lot of darkness, not saying darkness, you know what I'm saying, but a lot of just death and darkness, you know what I'm saying. Just I was just seeing like Lowse takeoff and Scar and that really golf take off, and you know what I'm saying, Those really hit me hard, you know what I'm saying. So it was just like made me appreciate my family and made me want to document.
Me and my two little kids. I just you know what I'm saying, because in my wife too, right, because the album I was listening to and you know, I really enjoyed it. It sounded like a launching pad for a lot of new voices like you always do. But it also felt like a lot of cautionary tails in there because he had like broken hearted business not personal Internet chatter, like was that your mission?
I said, this was not gonna be like an album when I try to like, you know, not talk about you know, like you know what I'm saying, Like to all the people that's talking about drilling and spinning, you know what I'm saying. Just like, Okay, Gucci came out with the album that's talking about going out to eat, flying on the plane. You know what I'm saying, going shopping with his kids. Just different topics so artists don't have to keep regurgitating the same topics. You know what I'm saying.
Yeah, one thing in particular that the intro must be me very powerful record, and you kind of addressed, like, you know, what is your responsibility of artists? Your artists like go a certain way or something's don't go right when the like what made you hit that topic head on?
It feel like you had to you wanted to address it.
I guess it was on my mind, you know what I'm saying, Like you get blamed for like helping the artists you get blamed, you see what I'm saying. So it's like you can't win, you know what I'm saying. You take somebody from like a bad situation, you try to help them, you know, you're a mentor, you lean by example. But soon as something bad happened to them, they say, you know, your labor cursed you the reason, you know, But I'm the one taking any chances with
these people. You know, nobody else will help, and that's my way of giving back. I knew that was my plan. But you know what I'm saying, it's weird to me that like that, people that don't help got out all the things the same.
Yeah, but since like artist you pick, it's like you're competing and some sort of bidding war for them. You find these talent early before most people.
Exactly, I ain't. You know what I'm saying. I'm not chasing records. I'm finding talented artists and saying, okay, regardless of what you got going on, let's just be from here.
Yeah. So it does bother you when people blame you for your artists going to prison or getting locked up or something like that.
I think it comes with the terror joy, right, you know, I don't agree with it, you know what I'm saying, but.
Yeah, you can understand the perspective. But it felt important to address that to say, hey, look, yes, that's what makes.
It what I had to put it into music, you know what I'm saying, Like, you can't just take these punches.
And what am I too?
Like it seemed like, you know, when you first came out, like it's like there's only as rumors. You look different, you're so focused, you're doing certain things, but you haven't stopped on that path. And I saw one quote you sell on Instagram. It said I was praying and fastening in the pen for a second chance, but I can't fumble the bag.
No I can't.
No.
I remember that post because I was just thinking, like, not even those second chance me, I had like five, six, eight, nine chances, you know what I'm saying. So it's like this last chance right here, I can't fun with this chance.
How do you feel in terms of that beg Like, do you feel like you know?
Because what you're going through it is like, you know, a lot of times people glorify certain things, but you did a real bit. You did real time, you did real time away and toring through all these scles, is like, how important does it feel like that you have to now seize this moment that you're finally back outside, oh.
Man, because I know it could have been much worse, you know what I'm saying. Like you know they were trying to give me twenty five years at one point, you know what I mean, and you know, just just man that to get another chance at it, man, Like, I know this my last chance. You know what I'm saying. I Like he said, Man, I had seven eighty nine chances.
You know what I'm saying. So you know how I was able to really sit on and understand you know what I'm saying, and just you know, get in tune with myself and growing just the fall man Like when you're in that cell and bosting like that man and you know, taking away from your family, you know, taking away from your career, taking away from just everything you love, and you really have time to just really sit down
and think. You know what I'm saying, and you realize what's important, you know, and I finally get it.
Did you said when you got out of jail felt like you woke up from a bad dream. You talk about your experience while you was locked up.
I mean, what about it?
One cold you say you see some real things. You referenced that in the lyrics, and like, was you kind of incarcerated in one space the whole time?
Right too?
For like I was actually on tour, man, they had me on. I did my I did my time in like eight different prisons. I'm so you know, every time I got in trouble, I was getting shipped. You know what I'm playing. So I was started off in both my Texas, ended up in Kentucky. They shipped me to Pennsylvania, shipped me to South Carolina. I was in Florida. I ended it in California.
Cali was the last one I saw, the Cali. Yeah, I was.
I was pretty much I've been around.
But like, people don't realize that this is a real situation. These are real situations like being across rerated to doing with the stuff you and just we have dealt with, right.
Yeah, definitely serious.
Yeah, nah, people losing their life behind it, wall man. You know what I'm saying.
Real ain't nothing to play with.
Yeah, no, that's a fact.
How did the other inmates react to seeing you in prison?
I mean, shit, you know I was one of the guys, you know what I'm saying. Like, I mean, you know, at the end of the day, you know when when when you know, when you go to jail, you strip the you know that the jewelry, you know the cause, you know the fame. You just a number. I was three one nine six nine three four, you know what I'm saying. So you know, I and I did mind a GP you know what I'm saying. So it's like, yeah, I mean, nah, it just was me, you know what
I mean. It's you know, it's some people you know that that that see you and and see the person they see on TV. But then it's up you know, good man, who know you're a man first, you know what I'm saying. And that's how I want to be treated as a man first, you know what I'm saying. Fuck Beach, you know this that like I'm you know what I mean.
How do you think your pin involved from the chopping in the city, chopping in the city's days till now? Like, how do you think you've evolved as a writer?
I mean, you know I ain't never been the most lyrical, right, That's why I.
Need you on that autumneurs.
Just just tell my story pretty much, you know, talk about you know what it's like journaling for me, you know what I'm saying. So I'm talking about you know what I'm going through, what I see, you know what I'm feeling, you know what I mean?
Like, Yeah, what was those catch money like years like for you, Like you know you gotta set that matter was going to take over the game nine nine in two thousands and y'all did that, like you and the whole crew hot boys, You're part of legendary group.
Like what was that life for y'all to like really impact the game?
Really, I just want to talk about you know what I'm saying.
We don't live in the past, right he is no shoppers and bricks.
It's definitely December fifteen.
December fifteen. How many we don't get to hear the full thing? Yeah, the full thing? So give us a insight go out with the album.
What could we expect?
All kind of different producers, you know what I'm saying, From Mike Will to at L Jacobs, you know what I'm saying. So producers just turned me on to I never worked with before. They were seeing the fire beats you know what I'm saying.
Ok, Yeah, and there's a current Scar album you've got to put out just now to right, Yes, that's just the posthumous.
Socially, Yeah, the Frozene. Yes, he got a trilogy. You know, he got the secret Weapon, he got Big grimd Weep already did this went go so like seven hundred thousand units already?
Yeah?
Then he got the secret weapon. Night just dropped Frozene.
Yeah.
So Peter Scar long Litle de Legions.
The song that you put out last year, let it the take off. It was really poignant, Like how hard was it making that record like that?
I don't I don't know. It seemed like there was my really crying through that song.
I just wanted to.
Express the people, like, you know, this person was important to me, you know what I'm saying. It wasn't about how much the song screaming and seiling. I just wanted to let the world know, Hey, this this you know what I'm saying, Like, I can't let the day go by without y'all knowing like this, my doubt, this hurt me. This is what I'm feeling, like, you know what I'm saying.
Because it happened like almost a month apart.
Yeah, it was hard. That's still that's still something that you know, I'm dealing.
With, right, Yeah, with Vegas right now, go up there. So you had a line you said, I got so much catching Vegas. I feel like I'm Elvis.
In Vegas at the top.
So the video you shoot at the poems and yeah, I got a big connection with Vegas. Like I made Eliminade in Vegas. I don't know how long ago it was when Eliminade was out, but that was just like on one of my trips that I used to go hard at. You know what I'm saying. And I still go to the same hotel. I still stay in the same room. And I know that was like eleven twelve years ago. It's the same routine. You know what I'm saying. I'm still making records at the same place, the same studio.
It's still going. That's why I said, shit like Elvis, you know what I'm saying, I'm still going.
I think you like the shopping possibilities of the Vegas provides, you know, saying the money.
It's my spot, be honest, like seriously, like I really love performing in Vegas. You know what I'm saying.
They love me, they supporting me.
It's a beautiful it's a beautiful thing.
It was a Dre's nightclub, but Dreda's nightclub.
Definitely respect them. And you know what I'm saying, they showed me a little but before them, just like the whole community of Vegas that's been supporting me before that, you know what I'm saying, they always want to hear. Speaking of performances, Gucci, man, we saw it's a legendary performance with you and t I a couple of months back.
You know, you guys had friction in the past, but you reconciled on stage in Atlanta. You talk about that, and while it was important for that to happen.
It was a long time overdue, to be honest, And you know what I'm saying, I feel like both us got a legendary stance in Atlanta, both us and did a lot for the city. You know what I'm saying, I'm glad that we did that, right.
That's a very moment.
I don't know if you so go up this thing online they were talking about to mixtape my Rushmore that put Future fifty cent a little way and Jez. The biggest OUTCRYSA was it was like you got to get up on that, on that, on my Rushmore? What's your take on like if you have to do your own mistate my Rushmore? Who who belongs there in your mind?
I definitely belong on Inny Mountain rimore of anything. That's just my opinion. I'm biased, you know, but you're not blind.
I'm not.
I got different criteria that what I judge than proud of what you would judge or somebody else might judge, or the popular opinion might judge. What you mean by that just in terms of how you view like all, Like I said, for even with BG or the artist that I like before I really put out my first professional album. You know what I'm saying two thousand and five. See, I remember in two thousand and three listening. I remember the CDs I used to listen to. It was BG chopping,
sitting in the Ghetto. That sitting in the ghetto, it was, it was it was when you left and you was on your own. I had an independent life off the cash miny. First one listen to that CD and uh, I think I listened to Little John Dat Sideboys with Post Choice.
I remember that playing g a yes no no no no no no no no no no no no.
Little John had had a CD by itself. They came out and they had a church like on the intro with Jada kids, you know what I'm saying, And fifty came out. Then the three CITs and I used to be doing my thing, you know what I'm saying, going from Atlanta back to my home. Three those my three no from Atlanta to Alabama. Well, my granddaddy stayed in
ten seventeen, but the it was my three CDs. And I used to be using this girl car and in the three CDs I had bought and Birmingham Record Store, and I just every time I get in the car to the three CDs, I used to rotate yep. And I'll be coming back down twenty with them three cities.
So to me.
But what made me like those artists was it wasn't like I said, it wasn't about the lyrics. It's the story.
Yeah, you feel I can relate to this.
Story, listen to you and get rich of that triump anything like that. I need to be around. I need to tell my story. Yeah, my story important.
We'll ever get to tell it. But it's interesting though about the boy you kind of told in a lot of ways, was this thing called the mixtape, right, whatever that means, right, and we looked at it that.
Was the East Coast thing.
But you was to me the most prolific of the South to kind of really use that format to express yourself.
Yeah, I honestly was like the only thing I can take control of, you know, the major. You got control of your album. I got control of this mixtape, so.
I can rhame over whatever I want.
Yes, I can drop it whenever I want. I don't got to worry about you saying I'm gonna push your back.
I can't push it back.
It's already out out. Yeah, they got it in their cars. But as Gucci just alluded to, you know, listening to Chopping City Together. Next year, it's turned twenty five, BG, what do you think about the impact that had?
Five Way five man? Five years?
What do you remember making that album in like the impact of it?
Damn, man, I mean, it'd be hard for me to remember twenty five minutes, you know, to remember Nah, But I just I mean, man, I remember the camaraderie you know that we had at a time you know what I'm saying, Like, you know, we all used to just support one another being in a studio at the same time. You know, if I was in the studio, you know, Fresh was in their shoes, and that Wayne was in there,
ls and there. It's not a slim you know, and we all you know, contributed to each other's solo projects, you know what I'm saying. So I think this was maybe like the I don't know, maybe the second third album on our deal or whatever. But yeah, I just remember just going in there really just doing me, man, just picking up from where I left off off the first Chapper City album, because I dropped the first original chaper City in ninety six, you know what I'm saying.
So when I did Chappa City in the Ghetto that was like ninety nine. You know what I'm saying, you.
Had a major distribution. Everybody's looking yeah, yeah.
Yeah, So it just was, you know, picking up from where I left off with Chapel City, you know what I'm saying, and just you know, telling my story, you know, telling New Orleans story. You know what I mean.
It's crazy because that's your fourth album, but a lot of people look at it almost debut.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, they thought yeah yeah, and yeah that because I had the true story. Then the Chapa City. Then it's all on you Volume one, then it's all on your Volume two, then the chap for Real.
Just what inspire you though, like before you started getting even with cash? Like what inspired you as a kid coming up in terms of hip hop?
I mean, you know, I come up on UGK, Skull Face A Ball and MJG. You know, Dayton Family, Top of the Family, Wow, like SPIKEE one Pop. I was listening to cool g rap you know. I was listening to all that in a bunch of local artists, you know, Pim Dadded you NLF. You know what I'm saying. Just I was big on the New Orleans culture too.
But it reminds me of one of meet being beat out from Queens one of my favorites that that Prodigy album and I see you're on the album him when I went back to Lewis, How did that come together?
How did that situation?
Prodigy reached out man, he was he was a fan of a Chappa City in the ghetto, you know what I'm saying, And he reached out the bird man and was like, man, I'm trying to link up with beg Man and Bird pulled up on and was like, man, oh you called man.
I'm like, what mess with everybody? Mess with everybody? Back then, you couldn't get a cash feature.
It was hard.
It was hard.
Can you turn down?
Like, like, what are you talking about?
You know what I'm saying.
I grew up with the opportunity only think people are talking about this soon in the game. You all grew up about hip hop and how much you know. You're so clear on like the lineage of where you come from with your just culture.
I'm super inspired about the whole cash money cash, But Shlim and Baby did like definitely what made me want to get in the game. You know what I'm saying. I was listening to the to them bgms. I remember them cookouts. Who was having and not? I graduated in ninety eight, you know what I'm saying. So I remember not to nine someone. I remember not the eight something. I remember, but when people were playing Beach, I remember
having these d CDs, you know what I'm saying. And I remember what they were doing to my neighborhood and how people were like adopting these nicknames of people you feel what I'm saying, and it just inspired all of us. But it definitely made me think, like, you know, like, Okay, I ain't got to just sit on the block. What if I tried to put up on label? What if I made these niggas up under me?
My artists?
That's what That's what me and my friend, that's what we tried to do. You know, that's what made me. You know what I'm saying, It like a damn like they shine, like let me try to you know what I'm.
Saying, It's possible.
It's possible.
You know what I'm saying, BG what records from Gucci? Man?
Did you gravitate towards.
The Black Tea records? The Wasted was really one of my favorite rights, you know what I'm saying. But that's the whole point. I mean, he got so much work, you know what I'm saying to you, Just gonna pop that ship in and let it ride, you know what I'm saying. And that's the type of artist that I like listening to. You know nowadays, you know you one record, two, you know what I'm saying, three records, But you know I don't like skipping and ship you know, you.
Want to ride out to the album?
Man? Yeah, you you you That's what the music is all about, right, you know what I'm saying. That's what making the album is all about. You know what I'm saying, giving people something that they can pop in and just ride so instead of just being able to ski. That's what we was able to do with the Shoppers and Bricks album.
Focused focus the Christmas gift, the Christmas.
Gift, and it's crazy because that's what he was like, Man, like this this is gonna be a gift to the streets.
You know what I'm saying, because I feel like it's a little light out there, like people do the big fourth quarter releases, but this is dope to have you guys come together and deliver this.
I like, I like, I like unexpected ship. Yeah, okay, just going with the flow. A lot of artists can't do that. Yeah, it takes them two years make one album.
And somebody told me that too, because I was They were like, man, how many songs y'all got on there? They're like, I'm like, man, we got fourteen songs on that. They was like, ain't no way y'all did fourteen songs that fast? I'm like, yeah, like that's what we do, you know what I'm saying. And I'm talking about Man, this shit so hard.
I mean, especially when you talk about what Guop's catalog, it's like your marathon.
Man.
It didn't keep up because.
I was sending him the records right and then he was like, man, I'm going to the studio tomorrow, and and he knocked out five of them in one day. You know what I'm saying, shut them right back. I'm like, oh shit, he a machine, just like you know what I'm saying.
I'm like, okay, let me get back on my ship.
Nah. It was it was It was fun doing that. I wish we was able to be in there together, but that time coming, like I said, I'm still in the halfway house, you know what I'm saying. So we had to work, you know, via sending shit back and forth to each other. But we was able to pipeline over the phone and you know, bounce ideas back and forth off each other. So it was just like we was in there together.
Some bucket lists. Like bucket list, I just did some of the artists that you know, and started rapping. I was listening to him that I know I liked it, you know, like one my personal favorites and all my homeboys know that. So to me, it was just like a bucket list thing. I would listen to the Ruggers as a straight fan, like I'm hearing the ship before anybody else here.
I can't wait to hear what Beg says on this.
I'm like, you know what I'm saying. I'm telling him, like, send me more. I'm gonna get on every rucker. It ain't a rock he send me that I didn't wrap on.
He said, they gonna keep going like that, But how do you stay so shock with it? Grew up? Like what what's what's the reservoir? Like, why do you tell me?
He's like my alternative was like was the streets? You know, So if this is my business and this what I what I'm doing, you know what I'm saying. I'm pushing. I'm pushing my music and I'm pushing my artists.
You know, because nothing that went crazy online when all three thousands said that, you know, he get older, he don't really know what to rap about. Like you know, now we're in the world now where rappers can't get older and still contribute, Like what.
I saw that, and I saw what Wayne said this response to that, and uh, you know what I'm saying, I'm for the three years old, so about to be for just saying like you know, basically basically like you know what it is be to wrap about your life when you know you're afford this. You know what I'm saying. But I'm looking from a different viewpoint. You know what I'm saying. I didn't have the success of one hundred three thousand.
Oh, you know what I'm saying.
So I ain't coming down from the high, you know what I'm saying. And I ain't chasing the light. You know what I'm saying. I'm just doing what I'm doing, and I know that some of the stuff that I'm doing is resonating to the people who I want to reach. And I can't reach everybody physically, so I reach them like the ways I can. And I'm cool with that.
So how can an artist at this point maintain a legendary career like you guys have.
Be a legendary person?
Nah, that's a fact. Just really being consistent man, and being authentic originality, you know what I'm saying, Like, that's that's that's to me is my you know how I see longevity or the definition of having longevity. It's just originality, authenticity, you know what I'm saying. Consistency, you know what I'm saying, like not you know, filowing a trend. You know what I'm saying, Like because everything that works for why it
might not work for me. Everything that work for you know, you as as a host might not work for him as a whole.
I know who you are, you man, like, Yeah.
This has been your favorite collaboration as you've done Gucci, because you've done a lot of collaborations up there the top.
I was just thinking, that's the first time you've did it with someone that influenced you.
I guess it is like it's instead of me trying to help somebody career. But yeah, but it kind of worked the same way. He got the same youth for spirital this do it, and he came to me with it like I'm gonna use the person initiated, you know. He like, let's do a tape, and I'm the type of person like, you know, let's do.
It, say leus.
Yes, he had to think about it or ied the idea I'll call you back tomorrow. You were like, let's do it, and we right on top of it.
Gucci, obviously people been in fluenced by you, But why are people so obsessed with the two thousand and six Gucci man. That's the Gucci man who was like they know what came with Hardy Killed Chicken talk.
Yeah, it was that part of my life. I'm tearing, like, man, that was. That was That's a serious like you know what I'm saying. I had a whole bunch of like parts of my life. There a lot what was going on, you know what I'm saying. But at that part of my life twenty five and twenty six years old, like he was up. That's the best way I can describe it, because I had a real Macavelian approach to life, you know what I'm saying. And I was just playing my card.
Absolutely, it's dope now, man. Just to see you guys together, man, it's legendary. Absolutely, and I'm talking about that. You should know, Gucci man, you got your own day as well. In Atlanta ten seventeen.
That was a surprise, you know what I'm saying. That was that wasn't you know what I'm saying, Like the city, the city gave me my flowers. I appreciate that. You know what I'm saying. That was doping.
That's awesome.
How do you celebrate ten seventeen Day for next year?
Next year?
Ten seventeen Day?
I'm not sure yet. Okay, I'm not sure. It's a holiday now, so we figure that out. That's what just so when you touched down after where do you think you're gonna lay your head after the halfway house?
And what city you think you're gonna live in?
Oh, I'm actually when I was in jail, I was playing on building my dream house in Atlanta, going to the Black Hollywood that. Yeah, I'm out here in Vegas right now. You know what I'm saying. That's why I got released her. So I'm gonna live. I said I was gonna live out here for about a year. Yeah, fill it out and see if I like it. I'm
gonna keep a spot out here. But I always wanted to go back to Atlanta, man, you know what I'm saying, because I had a spot out there in like two thousand six, two thousand and seven, I had a condo out there when I when I gave it up and went back to the city, that's when everything went downhill, you know what I'm saying.
And fuck it, a's to jail.
I should have stayed in Atlanta, you know what I'm saying. But yeah, I'm definitely I'm gonna go down bottom man today.
And when did you go to hair out?
Man?
It's different baby legendary, oh man, you know.
And I had already had breize, right, you know what I'm saying. And I ain't wanna cut my ship. So I actually had had locked it up New Year's two thy eleven, and uh, I ended up going to jail in like March of two thy eleven before it locked up. And uh, in the beginning, I thought I was gonna end up getting like a year a day, you know, five years max, you know what I'm saying. But you know, when they want to talking to football, I was like, man,
I definitely got to keep this ship. It ain't going nowhere. And you know, it told my story right because when I left, it was, you know, way up here. I came home and it's way down there. You know what I'm saying. And I'll be looking at pictures throughout my incarceration, you know what I'm saying. I'm like damn man, that hell really let me know, how did some time?
Real? What was the first thing you did when you came home.
When checked into the half way.
Gotta be right, gotta be on point.
Yeah, I ain't. Ain't jaywalking. I did exactly with that already, told me you know what I'm saying. Yeah, I know I did stop. I stopped and grab something to eat. But I called the jay and made sure that they called the halfway out.
Let them know and let them know that I might quick bite, quick bite, but I be there.
But yeah, I went, I went checking into the halfway house.
Do you have to do that?
I should be getting out of there probably in another week.
Many this is the time for the holty, just the time for the album.
Yeah.
Absolutely.
Choppers and Bricks and bricks, man, you didn't grew out another one.
Man, And it made so much sense. Man, you got brick Squad and you got chopping City. It's like ship man, choppers and bricks. It makes sense like that's yeah, that's streets got ahead of man. I know they ready for that.
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