Rap Radar: Geechi Gotti

Yo, it's the Rap Rate All Podcast. My name is beat Out.

Elliott Wilson.

Yeah, Elie. We had a good day at the office last week with hit Boy and his dad, Big hit Man.

Yeah.

The call him the Holland crew Man. Chauncey allis junior man. You might have to trademark that the Dollars crew Man and the Dollars crew Man for the West Word up on the West West Man. Now, I love I've been interviewed hit Boy so many times. Man, it was good to finally interview him with you and have him get the honor of being a guest on the Raporator podcast. You know, the prestigious platform that we have. So he told some good stories.

Man.

I like to think about you broke it, you know, beat Out, with his research. You broke the whole thing about eBay why he put the song in eBay to get the rights to it, which is crazy, how crazy a foul of publishing businesses, you know, that's why he put the song on eBay. And then the thing about the Beyonce album is Justice for Thick. He didn't know even though nothing about it. It surprised me because hip Boy usually stays informed about a lot of things.

Right, you know, I guess the guy's busy. But also like the fact that he talked about coming out with Eyes perform at Madison Square Garden and giving the starts on the state of sampling right now, because that seems to be a hot topic.

You got wayo stir that up right, shut out the way though, word up, you know, and big here man, you gotta faget big head man did this, Big came home.

Man.

He's hitting the ground running.

Man.

It's a good o gee. He's putting that work in.

Man.

You gotta respect it, man. And I think it's really the first true like father son combination. Really, you know, think about it. It's like this is real life, man, It's not. It's not Birdman in a little Wayne back of the day. This is a real father, real son. You know what I'm saying, the real deal. So watch man, real DNA, real blood man, real blood man. Speaking of blood man, this guy Drake's catching a lot of shots out here in the internet and with this album. Man, we gotta talk about it.

Man, I can't get your take on this, man.

I got know and my bugging because look, I understand I've had my issues with Drake as the people know. It seems like he's picking. He's picked the other targets recently, which I appreciate. He's thinking of taking a weight off me. I feel like, you know, by the scenes, we've had some pleasant exchanges with getting back to a better place. So I just want to purchase that. By my opinion, it's not based on this. I'm giving my objective opinion. I like this album, and I don't know why everybody

Yeah, I think I'm at the core raid on you, Elliott, because I think you're bugging.

Man a lot too. Too. Be that, Yeah too be that.

Yeah, I don't like it, you know, Like I said on Twitter, it's all Kevin Durant's fault. He's the reason behind all this calamity.

Oh my god, South of the Boardroom man, Sutage, climb Its KD four putting like KT's jacket. He put out Kat's jacket.

Taking it off, man taking it off. But you know he's the A and off but you know, off back. I think it, like you said, it was too long. I think twenty three tracks is kind of like a daunting listen in today's world to me, After like thirteen songs, it starts to feel like homework a little bit. And then also, you know, Drake usually sets the tone with

He saw Viga beat you, we saw Viginia Beach. He stud its gonna bar him up, bar push it up by everybody up.

And I just thought it was gonna be one of those you know, signature you know, openings, and it just wasn't that sonically to me. None of the beats really grabbed me by the collar. I liked eight Am and Charlotte, produced by the conductor Rock Baby Rich Baby daddy. You know, it has that Atlanta Miami bass feel, which is kind of popular right now. Uh first person Shooter with J Cole. I think it was a great standout, great beat boy Wonder was on a production with that, So that's really

I saw them get on with the check of checkers, a little lockey in line or something like that, so it was like.

He said, it got you out here moving and wastes like a belt, Like I think Drake's a little bit better than that. But you know, just at the end of the day, the expectations of a global superstar like really high, and with him it's tenfold, and you know he's already in Cooperstown he has his gold jacket, but I feel like the frustration lies in the fact that he's capable of delivering wrap at the highest level, and we're disappointed when the output doesn't reflect those abilities.

I mean, what's your take on how they feel like with the content wise, Drake's like catering too much to a the demo, right, Like he's cool with YACHTI. Now, like, do you think that he's catering too much to the other of the crowd to try to stay you know, at the at the forefront of the culture.

I disagree. I think it's a misconception. Like Yachty is a grown man, Like he's not some high school teenager, you know, running around like he's in the dope, and at the end of the day, like Drake is his own orbit. You know, if this guy sneeze without covering his mouth, it's making headlines. Everyone's gonna be interested. So it's like, I don't I think that's just a misconception.

Well I do.

I do think that production was, Like you said, it may be the sound for you, but a lot of that sounds like a lot of the current like Banks, kind of like this's produced big of them as Banks, like a Kyle of that kind of like it's not really drill, but like a different kind of sound. I feel like he did a good job of tins of morphine that with fort these touches on it, like the filtering that they do in their sonics and their music.

Yeah, I think a lot of people that are having those criticisms don't really listen to the music because Drake gives that. You know, he's been giving that throughout his career. I mean I could cite a song like March fourteenth, when he's talking about fatherhood with his son or his relationship with his mother on Sandra's Rose or growing up in Toronto, you in the six like he has those

The Fall Off, because you know, I love full of the off Season, so I'm interested to see what he's going to deliver. Yeah, I think that big free dynamic is still so interesting. I feel like even when you know Drake digs up Cold or allows Cole to like you know, shine on his platform and always big brings by the shows to me always feels like it's a competitive stance against Kendrick, like a little dig of the Big Three, Like they're like he's on They're on one

You know, it's like Cole isn't oblivious to what the chatter is online and offline. You know, those guys are the three headed monster and it's been that way for a long time. But it's also a competitive nature that Cole has. He comes from the school of Cannabis and jay Z and those guys you know so in nas so of course he's he wants to be the best. I think they all, all three of them want to.

So you think Drake Jay saying he's taking a break finally, man, he's been. He's been giving us a lot of output the last even in the twenty twenty he's he's giving us what like four projects and stuff. He said he's finally gonna take a little break. I don't know if I believe him. I think he can easily get pulled back in. He's a monster, he's a cerebral assassin. But if he says he's gonna take a break, that's people

You know, I like the idea of a break. You know, sometimes you know, you have to go away to make people miss you. And at the end of the day, whether I like the album or not, you know, it's a blessing that Drake has been able to share his talent with us for the last what you know, thirteen years. So I think sometimes, you know, you just need to recharge, reset and you know, regroup and you know, find some new sounds and maybe you or I could send him some beatsteack.

That's what you like to do. Be I know, you'd be out here thanks to the beach. That's you. That's your job, man, that's how you even get down man, you know, And.

We'll see what he you know, what he comes back and what he has to offer.

So well, we have the suite to Drake man. We we have the off is very special, very unique for this episode because beat I came up with this idea and at first, I'll be honest with you, hip hop audience, I did not know who he was talking about. He's like, yo, al, what do you think about doing Geechee Gotti? And I'm like, oh, Beachi Gottio, Yeah, cool.

Geechi Gotti. Every effing bar man. He's like, to me, the face of battle rap right now, you're just coming off that crazy battle was easy to block Captain on Remy Moss platform Cron twenty three. Yeah, and he seen enough the timeline yo.

Yeah.

No, he's interesting.

Man.

I did my research after you mentioned him, and I obviously knew about the controversy he had caused with the Remy Mott thing, and you know, and everybody was talking about it. It's like one of those battles that kind of really hit the overall landscape of the culture and got out of that bubble and really made an impact.

Man.

I learned a lot myself, so you know, they may climb me and say, Elliott, it's like a little novice out there asking these questions, man, But it was it was fascinated to me to kind of get into the mind of somebody that does that for a living and become successful at it.

No, that's I think that's a great approach. You know, you always have to approach things with like a childlike nativity. I love the fact that you know, battle rap has evolved. I've I've kind of fell off from it, you know, from the early days of the DVD era and smack man shout smack right, absolutely shout out to smack. But I think it's dope. How you know, things have evolved and have grown since then, Like the money is different now. Guys are making my private practice money doing these battles.

Absolutely, man, little swist a style up on you. But I think it's it's on the same level of the quality as we always deliver.

Man.

Very excited to talk to this young man, Mister Geechee Gotti.

You're sir to rap rate our podcasts?

Yeah, year rap rate up podcast. Elliot Wilson's name is beat Out, beat Out. What's up baby?

My game face on today? Elliott.

You can't battle this man, man, He's eat you alive.

Man.

You know what I'm saying. We don't even cover battle rap, but this man is the man that Hour and Hip Hop wanted to have you. Man, Geechee Gotti, you Gotti brother, Bro. Every battle rapper is hating right now, you know what I'm saying. At ever, been on the wrapper.

Up yeah in the first one. Okay, so yeah, we gotta do it right there.

For you're like the hottest deming battle rap right now.

Man.

So far, you had like eleven battles this year.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, and that's life for me because really I'll usually be having like twenty.

For real.

So there's like a light year as far as like in my career because like I usually I kind of battled everybody, So like this year kind of me more.

Giving shots and given opportunities. You know what I'm saying.

I've still got a few maybe one or two big battles that people that I haven't battled, but for the most part, I've battled like every name in the business, you know what I'm saying.

So what clicked this year? Even before the easy to block battle? Like, what do you think it is about this year?

It's made it so that made it so special for me?

I think it was just one of those years where it was like, uh, like I say, I've already battled everybody, so more so people were kind of like what else is what else is there for him to do? You know what I'm saying, Like he's already an under one Battle of the Year three times. I haven't been in like main stage battles probably more than anybody like in my generation of it done battled all the top name so I think this year just for them to see

So I think a lot of people respected that.

There tends to be a lot of overlap, right yeah, yeah for real.

But you're first from Toronto, which was a storic for you, right yeah, it's not easy to get into that country.

Now it's not.

It's not was that was my first time ever even leaving the country as an adult, you know, and then being a feeling you know it definitely can't get into there. But organic who's the owner of a King of the Dot which is the league I battled on a King of the doupt the number one league out there in Canada. They pulled some strengths I won't even say pulling those strings.

It was really expensive, man, Yeah, yeah, yeah it was Yeah for real.

I saw it. It cost like fifteen thousand dollars.

Yeah, just to get the paperwork sent through. Yeah, fifteen thousand. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. Then they still have to pay me, so shout out.

It was a battle, because I know you also shouted out a fall in front of us.

Yes, yes, the battle was against a guy named Hollahan who was a good friend of Past Day, Rest in peace. He passed away. He was a big, big icon in battle wrap. But it's also from Canada, so he passed away. He was a good friend of mine. I'm not as good as a friend of him as the God Battle. Through the God Battle, they grew up together, they knew each other. So for me, it was like I'm getting

You know what I'm saying.

But it's like we actually lost somebody that we all care about, even me and my opponent and the league that I'm on.

So I'm like to make sure that I'm here, I'm and.

His wife is there, his brother is there, Like let me give a tribute instead of just being all negative the whole round, and they loved it, you know.

They they gave me a good.

Reception another you know, like you know what I mean in a sense though seriously though, because like I said, like even in the tribute, it was more so of me just leaving a piece out there because his family will be able to see that years later. You know.

You can always say.

People use it when you especially in batterle rep usually when you die, or we in celebrities anything, We kind of use it to make a bar out of you know what I'm saying, like a like a Tupac bar to be like a year.

Tupac you get the ball ahead, you die like Biggie.

Like we don't really never kind of pay homage, Like we kind of use it to say something disrespectful in a sense, you know.

So I didn't want to do that.

Like I said, it was a friend of mine and he's a big part of the culture, so I wanted to use that to like give a real tribute.

Canada loved it. The family loved it, so like I was good with that.

Man.

What was the crowd like out there in Canada?

Man? It was dope, Like I ain't gonna lie.

Probably one of the best crowds ever battle in front of Wow Like they was receptive to every bar they was.

They was really like, uh, what's the participant?

Hey?

You know, some some places when you go, especially on battling somebody from their home like you've seen in an easy battle. Usually when you go this where somebody's from, it take a while for the crowd to want to give it to you because they're going for the home God. But Canada, like I say, like, they were so static that I would be able to go there because they've heard for years like Gill never be able to make

You think it's been your tough supponent this year so far? Man, That bad news.

Bad news was a good one.

Yeah, yeah, I gotta say that bad news man. Then like I say another shot that I was giving going to his home league. He battles on Bullpen. He's one of the faces of that league with John John out of Atlanta. He's from the South. I had to go to his backyard and do that. It's another news out of Philly. Had to battle him in Philly in.

The streets, like to do that. That's my thing, you know what I'm saying.

So those would be too about magic that I would say was real tough this year as far as like going to somebody's backyard and eveninge like you know, snatch the respect.

You know what I'm saying.

So what's the key to this man? It's an art for him minute, I don't think it's the full credit.

Like yeah, like.

You're about to battle this guy, how do you go about preparing for Like he takes it into the process of how.

You Yeah, so uh, I mean this is I'm gonna be honest man, Like this is the most draining toxic energy like sport you can be in part of.

Like this is like boxing, Like it takes a lot out of you to do this.

Like like you say, say I have a battle with somebody, I know what say bad news for bad news for example in Atlanta coming up, and I got my kids' birthdays like a couple of days before all this type of stuff going on, our real life going on. But I gotta shut down. Think about this guy when I gonna write for him for three rounds. Were talking three to four maybe five minute rounds each round. That's fifteen minutes and materity that we got to memorize and go through flawless.

We can't ever wrap it again.

We can't say something we said in the past battle and it also has to run. It gotta make sense, They gotta correlate. It's time consuming. It's time consuming. So like my process for the most part, as good as and great as I am, I'll be honest, like I'm probably one of the most last minute preparers in this like it because I be doing so much. I got my own clothing line, I my own podcast, I run other businesses. So it'd be like sometimes like, man, I

As you're ready? Like spit it like practice it.

So like when it comes to crunch time, I kind of just make sure I'm a I lock in maybe like a full day or two to just dedicate it to making sure I'm like learning all my material, making sure that I'm ready for the crowd, ready for whatever is coming up. So y'all give myself at least that that week of our cram like like like Krama four.

Finals or something. Do you write it first in the memory memor I ride it in memoria?

How many bars is that you think? Like? Pro round gotta be.

Like I say, like a sixteen and be like what a minute or something. So we like we probably like in the sixty bars around like range.

You know, I'm just saying, like do you run lines by your team? Like do they feed you lines or is it just all.

Like no, we don't.

We can't feed each other lines just because like you know, that's frowned upon in this sport, Like you know, like the in the studio, you could be in there like hey, yeah, man say this, and you know and all that, but in this sport, like that's frowned upon, the ghost writing. But what I do is like I do go over like I'm I'm part of one of the toughest teams with every everything Boar you know me Rum Nitty, Danny Mars, j C, Miss Hustle, Like these are some of the best battle rappers.

In the world.

So I do spar with them, Like you know what I'm saying, I'll spin my material like say, if I'm spinning it to Rum, he the type of tell me like I ain't gonna have heard that before, like I shouldn't say that, So then I'll probably take it out like he won't tell me what to say, but he'll give me something like, Nah, that don't. That don't hit for me, you know what I'm saying. So like we kind of proof read we spoor with each other, you

So mostly like my team is who I was spared with, you know what I mean.

And then this is the thing about researching this person and trying to unearth some stuff about the person, like the detective work side of it.

Don't I really don't do that that much, you know what I'm saying. Like a lot of battlers, they die deep into like who you went to elementary school? You know what I'm saying, your mama's first boyfriend. And I don't get into a deep into that like mans be on the surface. Now if it hit the net, yeah, I'm snatching it up, you know what I'm saying.

Because it's you hear me, You're gonna hear from me.

I'm not gonna go around calling your baby mama and ask me what you hearing, or calling your moms and see if you ate all your spaghetti. But me, I'm gonna grab what's in the news or grab what's in battle rap culture, because so much happens in battle rap. It's such a culture within itself that people don't know, Like it might be something that happened at.

An event that all the battlers know about, so we grab.

That's why a lot of times they call it current event boards, you know what I'm saying, Like, let's say Tory Lanes and making us down.

You hear a lot of those boars because that's something that's in the news.

You hear about saying let's keep e d situation, like that'd be something that's in the news.

So sorry they make a bar about these things.

Like that's kind of myself, Like I grab what's kind of out there and make it more personal about my opponent, you know.

What I'm saying, I kind of try to tack their character.

So you speak to the visiousness of it too, like you know, like remember when Drake said it to push your thing. You know, sometimes you go too far with this, Like what's your take on that, Like is it a thing where like you've been in bowsy for like that person might have went too far or how do you judge.

That I'm one of the more disrespectful battlers.

So like out there say I'm a hypocrite if I say, is going too far, but I feel like maybe disrespecting someone that's not here, like you know what I mean, Like like if I battled you and I heard your mom just pass and I know that, I feel like that's going too far. Like there's no reason to get that personal with it, you know what I'm saying, Like you know, the bar is not gonna it's gonna last forever on the internet, and it's not gonna mean that much.

It's like the gloves it's off. It's like a warrior sport.

You gotta have tough skin when you get into this anyway. You gotta understand that, you know, people gonna say the worst or the worst about you.

They gonna make up things. It's gonna be fake things.

So you gotta kind of know how to just like roll with the punches, Like if you're not ready for it, then you're not even gonna You shouldn't waste your time doing this because the higher you get, it's the worster it's gonna get.

You know what I'm saying.

I think one of your advantages to is the fact that you know how to freestyle. Yeah, and you can cooperate the freestyle into the written That's a fact because you know your response is is like how the hell did he just come up.

With this fact?

That's a fact because a lot of battlers don't bring that aspect no more, you know what I'm saying, like the freestyle aspect, and I think coming from the West, we always kind of had to have that like freestyle ability, you know what I'm saying, And we got it in our own way.

You know what I'm saying.

It's not like everybody do it the same, but me minds, I've always been like that since a youngster, Like I'm gonna be quick with it. As soon as you say something, I'm trying to remember what he said and jump back, you know what I mean. You know, we call it rebuttaling and battle rap, you know what I'm saying. So, and that's like kind of a way we score points.

So talk if we talked about the preparation, what's going through your mind as you enter a battle.

Man, I'll be ready.

I'm gonna be honest, I'd be so ready for it to be over. Really, my mind be on some man, Please don't chow. Don't mess up like you don't because because like you say, you get one chance at it. There's no redo. It's not like I can say, stop punch me in, right, here, you know what I'm saying. So I'm like, man, this let me you know, I pray for the battles, you know, so let me make

You know.

I try to like zone, I really can't eat before a battle, Like I don't know, it's just weird, Like you know, I always think of that moms spaghetti throwing it. So I'll be like, like, you know what else to get up here? Throw se battles, throw up those days and stuff like that, you know. So I'm like, I can't eat.

You know what I'm saying.

I got like I don't smoke, drink, none of that before battles, none of that. Like you don't see me drink and smoking. It's it's clear minded, it's possible up there, you know what I'm saying. So that's kind of what's going through my mind, is just making sure I get the best performance because at the level I've made it too now, I'm held to such a high standard that I'm critiqued with like a microscope, like can you stumble any things. Oh, he doing bad this one, Like you know,

It's also interesting to me how do you receive the bars against you? How that person reacts, Like you put your head down, you sip some water, Like is there a set mindset of what you're gonna do when you guys and helling on you like or do you is a natural reaction?

Nah? Yeah, No.

Defense is a part of battle wrap too. You know what I'm saying, Like some dudes you can visually see that it's affecting them when you're saying stuff to him. You hear the like pounting or trying to talk to your around.

You know what I'm saying, mumble.

Mumbling or looking around like doing all that. You know, like me, I'm I'm probably one of the better defensive battles. I really I zone out. Anybody on my head be damn, I'm I damn it, don't even be listening. You know what I'm saying, like, I'm the only thing I'm listening for is something that I might need to rebuttle, Like let me see if he got something that make the crowd go crazy, then let me see if I can rebuttle that. Other than that, I'm thinking about all right, man,

You know?

I try to be as much professional as possible too, though, because that ruins the footage a lot of the times when you're talking through your guys material are doing all of this, and now you've got other stuff going on. Like for me, I try to make sure the material gonna come out as good as possible, the footage gonna come out it because that's what makes the views go up. If if the battle is choppy on the arguing side or just looking bad, people are not gonna want to

Why do I have to have so many people on stage? Man?

Like, uh, that's just the ask the what's the aspect of the game that it's just like that's always been battle rapped the streets, so before it was on the stage.

You know, they meet up on the corner. You're gonna bring all your homies, you bring all his homies. So we still got that much of it.

You know what I'm saying. I ain't went that commercial to where we don't do that. You still bring all your partners, you bring all your puners. It's a respect thing, like we let our people know like this is just bars. We're not him here to harm body or starting nothing. But like now we're gonna make it look good like man when he wrapping Man, don't give him no love like stoneface. Make him feel that everything he's saying this week.

Or you have the world talking after this battle easy to block yeah, I'm gonna be mass platform Crown twenty three shot out. Did you think the battle is gonna get that sort of reaction?

Man, I honestly did, though, you know what I'm saying, because at the time easy to block Captain he was on fire, one of the higher battle wrappers of the year, you know what I'm saying. Then, of course you know where I'm at on my status of it. So this was a big battle coming into it already, you know what I'm saying.

So then all the.

Speculations surrounding the battle, everything like where it's going down at, who is he gonna talk about this? Do they got this going on? Like all the things around it made it even that much bigger. So even in the face off, I was telling him like, man, we're gonna y'all keep playing. We're gonna go viral. Like I'm saying that to him, I'm gonna talk crazy up in here. You know what I'm saying. He's saying like, yeah, I want to go viral. So I think I didn't have to spectation that it'll

You know what I'm saying for real, for real.

Because to me, like the last Battle, I feel like they had that sort of mainstream attention was probably like the load of luxe Cali cool back, and he tweeted, and.

You're gonna get this work again most definitely, I believe. So.

I think since then, Battle Rap has been big, but it haven't got that main stream attention. Like so like Drake has been to the battles, you know, he sponsored battles, like he sponsored some of my battles. We've seen other celebrities there, but when they talk about it, like it don't really still go as far as it could go. I think this time it kind of just you see people talking about it, people blogging about it, people just everywhere.

You know what I'm saying, Radio stations playing it, you know what I mean.

I feel hearing like your playback on Power one five that was.

Crazy right there, you know what I'm saying. Like I think I was still in New York when that was going on too, like because I didn't leave. I bought it one way after when I Battle Easy. So we was in Philly in New York for some days like and people hitting me up like yo, they playing you on Palm.

I'm like, Yo, this is crazy.

So that was a humbling experience, you know what I'm saying, because I know they've talked about battle rap probably like you said, but nobody's ever played the whole round right from somebody up there.

You know what I'm saying.

They don't play my ram before they play one of my songs. So hey, that's that's a blessed.

It's a start, you know, like that two Am Hollywood Hills. But that's that's a challenge, right, It's challenge for battle rappers to become recording artists that break cha. Can you speak to that?

Yeah?

I think the challenge is because battle rapper is a niche sport that your fans kind of want you to stay there. You know what I'm saying, be the king of that world. It's like if you an athlete, say you you play football, but you're amazing at basketball, but you and you in the NFL. You can't go to the NBA because like nah, man, you are quarterback. You might be able to dunk on everybody and make it over here, but they want you, right here.

This is what you do round here.

We've seen athletes who are only a few who've done it, like the Bo Jackson's and Dion's and you know what I mean, seeing Mike Trot, they wouldn't letting even happen, you know. But it's the same with battle rap, where you could put out consistently good music, but the fans like, man, when you're next battle, when your next battle. So like one of my challenges is to always try to make sure when I'm putting out the music that it's not

So I can be a fan of.

His music separate from his battle but it's definitely is definitely a challenge, you know what I'm saying.

It's weird because like traditionally, like rappers like be a Big and dmx j Z, d eminem all come from that battle rap. Like battle rap used to be like the con do it to get signed, you knowing, right, But it seems like somewhere along the lines the narrative has changed.

Well, like you, when they come battle of its almost like he gives that side of him up, he becomes them and them, he becomes something different, but that's still in him, right, we hit a bat And then sometimes they say the mainstream battles also do spike up interest in the battle scene because people remember, oh it's about is my lyrics?

Is still the lyricism there?

And then I think now as of late now you can actually make a career being a battle rapper. Like back then, like you had to battle to get signed because there was no money in battle rep. Now with so much different money in battle rap, the top tier battlers can make like you know what I mean, two to three four hundred thousand a year, you know what I'm saying, maybe even more. You know how many battles they do and how much they get paid for battle

They signing battle deals and things like that.

And a lot of times the battle rep we don't think a battlerapper from Compton, California. Right. And then I've seen some interviews you were talking about like speaking to that like that journey of like almost you change your mind state that if you're getting a thousand dollars a battle, that's not this cheap money whatever blah blah. But if I get focused on that, I'm gonna elevate.

Im elevantor yeah.

No, that's how it come like like you say, I'm coming from Compton. I done been a jail, I done been shot, I've been through all these different hardships. So when I'm telling my partners like, yeah, they give me a thousand dollars, and he telling me like to rap, like what like for nine minutes you they're gonna give a thousand dollars real quick, like now you know? Yeah you know what I'm saying, Like yeah, man, he telling

To do it.

And that's why I said earlier it's alight year from because once he said that, they clicked, and I'm like, yeah, I'm every time they hit me up for a car, you'll put me on there any matter where it was that how much they was paying, Like I was just just signing the contract, like y'all be there in New York. Yeah, I'm here, Atlanta. There Houston there, like we just going, We're going, I'm staying planes I was. It kept me

So it definitely like saved my life in more than one way.

Stick it to the business of battle rap, you know, like it has evolved over the last twenty years and it's like dozens of leagues now, right, and you even have your own league, right, yeah, the riot, right can you speak to that? Like why you know a lot of people are having their own platforms?

Yeah, because of like you said, the business of it love.

Now you're starting to see that it's such a it's such a big, big, big like subculture where people are still tuned in. You getting millions of views, so I mean millions of people that's watching this. So of course, as a as a battler. You I mean, you want to get signed and somebody can give you the money to do it, that's fine, but also like betting on yourself, you know. So that's what we did with the rotters, like we kind of betting on ourselves. We put our

Are some people like exclusive to this one league or it is like.

To my league or just in general, Yeah, some people are. Yeah, some people signed exclusive contracts to I know for sure, the U are real. I'm pretty sure some people signed exclusive contracts to King of the Dot or things like that. But uh, with the Riot, we don't necessarily do like

I saw you're teasing something where you maybe cooking something up with Foryd Mayweather.

Oh yeah, man, definitely man. Uh, you know he's big into into this battle rap culture. You know what I'm saying. So uh And I see he said it on the Hip Hop's Real Thing. But it was an opportunity that someone that led me towards and let me know, like, yo, he was interested in doing something big with battle rapping.

You know, I hope everything goes the way it's supposed to go. Oh you know, you know what I mean.

Like I can't speak too much on it, but definitely, man, I know that when I battled who was it a shotgun should be in the vent in Vegas and the Floyd helped sponsor that. I think I won one of the Champions of the Nights and like got extra like six seven.

Thousand from Floyd at that event. You know. So, like he definitely is in tune with battle rapping, knows what's going.

On with the need to like recording rappers to be hitting your line on the side and giving your problems.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, man, for sure.

Man, it's so many, too many even names, but like yeah, I got so many of them that have tap in and show me love. Like if you follow my career, you see I bring a lot of them to my neighborhood and you know, they they come reach out to my to my homeboys, and you know, come back, get back to the community. I got records with a lot of a lot of dope rappers as well.

You know what I'm saying.

Me and Pas, he got a record that's going crazy. You know what I'm saying right now, the call is it. You know what I'm saying, that's going doing numbers. But definitely, man, I'll say it's so many. Man, I'll just telling somebody the other day, Uh Raloh Rodriguez hit me man after the Easy Battle. You know, I'm getting him back, Like man, I just was listening to that who this fun like you know, so it was just dope, like to see different artists that you wouldn't know, you know what I mean.

So it was like kind of like a full circle moment right there, you know what I'm saying.

I'dne met so many legends from when I battle moved me and bust the rhymes, gained the rapport in a relationship, you know what I'm saying, and so many more artists that I've like, even from Chicago my god Taste Savage making a lot of noise right now, like we locked

So yes, a blessing as far as the money goes, Like how does that work? Like do you think man the same person as like a traditional rap performance.

It depends, Like for certain everybody, price range is different. So let's say it's certain matchups where I can get about fifty thousand for that one battle you know what I'm saying. So, and I know it's certain traditional rap performances who do shows.

Where they might can get fifty four or so. Then it's something who don't like.

I think it was a big argument, like on the internet with say cheese or something that they're spending with some people saying that battle rippers get paid like two hundred.

In a sandwich and song, you know what I'm saying.

And I think hit Man show like a back end where he got like half a million or something more what it is, you know, so like, it's definitely money in there, and I think the misconception was that it's where they was arguing just saying like that they make more make less. I don't think it's really a big difference. I think the difference is a regular, you know, artist who does shows. Maybe he can do his shows from Thursday all the way to Sunday performing the same song.

Let's say he get ten thousand.

In the show by his fourth show, he done made forty bands, you know what I'm saying, Say he getting fifty by his four if he done made two hundreds, you know what I'm saying. Within a battle rapper, we do maybe a show a month, you know what I'm saying, maybe two, you know what I mean, on a good month.

You know, So if I'm getting fifty for that show and.

Made a hundred for that month only with doing less work less shows, you know what I'm saying as far as that, So it kind of balances itself out.

Just depends on the level you at in both, you know what I mean.

Because it's rappers who out there doing shows for two hundred and it's batlers who out there doing shows for twenty dollars, you know, you know, So it just depends on the level you at.

You know what I'm saying.

For you can't repeat the material, like you said, the.

Biggest challenge, Like, we can't repeat the material, We can't all them then boss, they're.

Gone after that. We can't hold the mic up right here and let the crowd see it with.

The opposite of the rapper, because the rapper, he's doing this on over and over and over again and getting his bag.

Yeah, so there's probably is a not even probably it's way easier for them, you know what I'm saying, to make their money. But like in the same time, though, like everybody can't make a hit, so you know what I'm saying, They earn't that right to make that money too.

But it's dope to see like you and m Knitty y'all split that one hundred fifty thousand dollars person that's drink put up right.

It's a fact. That's a fact.

That's my guy man, my brother outside of rap man. You know, he uh somebody that I really rock with and respect, you know what I'm saying. So that was

But were gonna split it like we ain't, you know what I mean?

Like you say, we were not that hard for money to where it's like I gotta walk away with one fifty and then watch my boy that I'm saying, you my brother walk away with zero. You know what I'm saying, Like, you got kids, you got moles to feed. You aren't your place to be up here? You know what I'm saying. I actually won the votes, you know what I'm saying for that battle, you know what I'm saying. And he

But none of that even mattered. We never even let the votes get out or nothing.

We kind of just hurried up and you know, we splitting the bread, you know, because people like will have something to.

Say back then, like oh man, he split he won. We didn't get nobody nothing.

We already had it decided that we was gonna go out there, put on the show, get a great battle.

You know, split that bread.

Remember your first show, Yeah, my first one was a man, my first one. Honestly, I was in jail for it too. I was fin the battle ave I got locked up. They was bailing me out. I was getting finished, get bailed out, and then they hit me and it was like, yo, you get That's what my promo for it was like fresh out of jail, out on Bill California Dreaming or whatever. You know what I'm saying, Uh, and I gotta pay like five hundred dollars, you know.

What I'm saying.

But I put on the classic, you know what I'm saying. I remember that was one of my best battles, you know what I'm saying. But like that, that stuck to the hunger, like getting I gotta do something because I ain't trying to be going back to jail. I'm like, like, let me put on the show and me I don't

So most battle is it clear declared who the winner is because a lot of times it's rooted in debate, right, they want right, it's least most of the fans feedback after.

Unless it's judge just like an opinionated sport. You know what I'm saying.

Now, you got clear cut Like you can watch battles like my last one, what easy, it's clear cut out want question right, But like it's it's definitely battles where it's like really debatable though, where the fans is split and they argue about it. But then it's something that's like even though it's an opinionative sport, everybody kind of like man, this guy one, you know, what I'm saying, we ain't arguing about it. But yeah, like that's the good thing about Battle round. Like even if you lose

That part of the parts the controversy th it's always a decision, you know, it's debates versus Like afterwards they gonna come out there like men they was, Hey, man, I feel like I got it.

You know what I'm saying. You know, I don't care what they said, you know. So that's what I think. That's what keeps the fans intrigued to though, because they can always go for they guy. You know what I mean?

Do you think the guy like it's always one guy goes first. You stay the same positions, right, this is the guy that go last have the advantage like a baseball team, where you get to.

It depends though sometimes a lot of times people do think that. But depending on how the battle goes out, if if if you can snatch that crowd early by going first and get them on your side, and then now you got now you got the other guy on defense.

Sometimes that works.

I thought the Black captain went for it.

I thought, how I felt like that.

I felt that was the strongest round. He came out strong. He tried to put my back against me. I know you're going to talk about this. Why do you think that didn't work and you're still able to get that off because like I.

Felt like, uh, in this battles, like in this battle, though you saying it is, this is what they come in to hear it. Though you know, sometimes it's like okay, you can say that, but people don't that's what they wanted to hear.

So it's like, yeah, but this is the baut Like nah, yeah.

You know, because it's you don't get it anybody like, hey, I know you're gonna talk about this.

Yeah, that's what we want to hear. We want to hear him talk about it. So that's one of the thing.

Felt like he tried to stop it early, but it was like I never really spoke on any of it that he said that I was gonna speak on it to vary the end. So by the end, he said it so early in the battle that the fans even probably forgot that. He like said that, you know what I'm saying, because the first two rounds. I'm more so attacking him and then doing different things. I'm not really

So definitely, you know what I mean.

Definitely, And it's a three round battle in the final round that has everyone talking. You implied that Remy had an affair with Easy.

Yeah.

Were you at any point concern about maybe you're creating a narrative.

Yeah, yeah, I mean not really, because even she said it. I just grab what was out there in the blog. You know, I've seen something that was in the blog saying that, like me personally meant I don't think her and Pepoo's are on any type of rocks.

You know what I'm saying.

I'm I'm going record saying I would think that they have happily married family. But in battle rap, hey say y'all having a problem. Oh, we gonna say y'all having a problem. You did, know what I'm saying. That's how it goes in this sport. You fall down, we're gonna say you got knocked down. You did know what I'm saying, Like you lose your chain, we gonna say your chain got stolen from you. You know what I'm saying, Like,

You know what I'm saying. It's exploited a little bit.

And I think Easy played into it because of some of the things he said in his round that kind of opened it up for what I said, to make it sound even.

More like validated. You know what I'm saying.

If he had counted it maybe differently, it probably would have been a different reaction from the people too. So you're like, she took it. She took it like a champ, you know. Like I said, she's been in battle rap before me. She was a battle rapper, you know what I'm saying. I'm from battle Rap, you know. So she knows what the sport is about, fight club. You know,

She has to sit there and this is her lead.

You know.

It's like she can't be biased on either side. She has to play the middle. So that was what made the battle even great. So, like I said, no, I didn't think about it creating like a narrative on them personally, because like he said things about me that wasn't true. He said a whole bunch of things that about me that wasn't true. But it's like I'm just I got to sit there and listen to it, you know what I'm saying. The whole time, everything you can say, I

You know what I'm saying.

I think I just did it so creatively and in a way that nobody else thought that it would have been done. Because he battled somebody before me, Battle Disaster before me who poked at the same rumor, poked at the same things from the blog, but he didn't do it the same way I did it, you know, so it didn't hit his hard, you know what I'm saying.

And it's up to like a million views now too exactly. I say, you're big enough, rem because that'shere her league is, you said another battle she had with successful.

He battled hit Many Holler earlier in the year. That's about two three million block hit Mayhaller. So remy, she has a new league's probably about her second year doing this. It was an all female you got a point in time. Now she's integrated and got male battlers over there, and it's starting to take off, you know what I'm saying.

So like her league is growing.

I think this battle even helped with that because now you've got so many outside eyes. They hearing about battle, but they hear about Chrown twenty three, Crown twenty three. So now they clicking and her subscribers is going up. You say that that battle hit a million views in like five a's I'm saying five six days. That's that's record time. And not many battles hit the millions that fast. It takes months.

You know.

Had a list of the biggest one we want, we want to be number one, and like you know, five's and the one that's at the top was up there since January, you know, you know what I mean.

So yeah, definitely, man, I think it did what it was supposed to do.

And she approached you afterwards jokingly you said, you caught me a bitch again. You ain't getting your back in?

Yeah, boys, for me, I'm like, man, you know, but and I told her, I think now we got a battle and suthing like I feel like I gotta get.

Rigged with it, but out to get no boars back.

But uh yeah, like I say, she see a good sport and she come from it. So uh and I did get my back end, you know what I'm saying. The back in came salutes Tormy for that, but uh yeah, like and that's just her character. Like, man, we're good friends.

You know what I'm saying.

She's always you know what I mean. I'm good friends with her man, good friends with her husband man pap. Like it's always been good. I ain't had no no ill uh intent with them after the battles in all respect since then, you know what I'm saying. Like you say, she came up jokingly spin some bars about it and went on about her business, you know what I'm saying. And we got a good working relationship. I should be

You know what I'm saying. She might not stand right there next time, though, you know, it might move out the way. That's about it, Like you know what I mean.

Real you jokingly said you might have the battle, but you do battle women.

I do.

Like I was gonna ask that do man and women battle that?

Yeah?

You did want to share.

I did want to share, you know, and and we do.

It doesn't happen as much as male on male battles and women on women battles, but it's starting to become a thing again.

And I think her league is spit is like it's.

One of the more places where it can be spearheaded even bigger because, like you say, she battles, so she knows how to get the women to look their best, and she she puts a lot into her league, you know what I'm saying. Like we've seen her have stylist out there to make the women look their best. She's she's bringing them in there and afterwards they're they're doing interviews on Joe Budden, They're doing interviews on the news and different things of that nature. So she kind of

So I battled a few women.

You know, rappers too. I don't give a fuck.

Anybody, you know what I'm saying, These heads anybody, it's a prefect, same like Na the prep It's the same, but in the sense it is different because they how do I explain it, Because it's it's not like it's a physical sport.

So the women's brain work just like a male brand.

So it's not like, you know, you got any advantage rapping wise, but it's definitely like just a different preparation because certain things that I can say to a male I can't say to a woman.

That's gonna be, you know what I mean, the same?

You know what I mean, like certain bars about you didn't Like if I could tell a god like man, you don't know about this, you don't know about that. It's a woman, see, ain't supposed to know about it. So some of the things that I have to attack them on is like a different attack route, you know. So yeah, it's definitely difficult. And I think it's difficult for them too though, because the things that they can attack other women and they can't attack us with.

So it's definitely a challenge.

But like I think those make for the best battles when both are prepared, you know what I'm saying. You get like a lot of classic men and women battles for show.

What do you think makes a good battle?

That's a good question.

That's a good question, all things considered, the crowd being participating, you know, being in tune with the boars, being in tune with what's going on, both battlers off the top have to be prepared, no choke and no stumbling. They have to come fully prepared, ready to wrap, ready to put on the show. Uh what else would make the battle just just over the top good? Like you said,

I just think it's addressing that you got to deliver the bars loudly too, of course.

Like lose your voice. Can y'all hear me in the.

Just to getting comfortable doing that.

Man, man, man, And that was another reason man rest in peace to pay. When I battle Sue Surf. That was like one of my first big stage battles, Free Sue Serf, Free the Way, one of my first bit and I was losing my voice that battle. You know, if people watch that battle by like the second round, my voice is hoarse, you know what I'm saying. But I'm still gotta I can't make no excuse that we already on stage now it's litter. I gotta keep screaming

Yo.

Before you start a battle do you read you kind of read the crowd? Yeah, you know who's on whose side.

Yeah, for sure. When you're on that road, you're definitely looking in there.

Like I say, the road games is the toughest because you pretty much know nobody in there for you, but you looking for that one person that's like yo, geet you you the man you now you're wrapping to him or nothing, like come on, go like get the person next to you the cheer. Now we got everybody, you know, it's like the waves, you know what I'm saying, You got you get one person that started that.

It's a trickle effects. So you know, like yeah, on that road you kind of do that.

But like when you at home, you kind of know, like a home game is a little easier because you know the people there for you, so like you're gonna feed off that energy a little bit more, you know what I'm saying. But definitely, man, you're in that crowd. It's the goal is to just get somebody to get the cheering going. And then once you get that energy, like yeah, they're gonna ride you all the way.

You know.

I man has batter rep been like a great tool in keeping your composure and patience because you know you got someone another grown man yelling and spinning your face, a breath and you just have to just stand in and take it.

Man. That's that's I'm tell you this right now. We hate doing that. Like it in life.

It has helped you a composure, but still even to this day, you be uple to like, bro, why do I got to sit here and less.

Somebody like it? Gotta be another way to get this money? You know what?

I sit in again, yell dad here, call me all these things, but thirty minus what I said earlier, it's old topsic, good drained. But it do help with that though, Like you know, you learn to just block out anything, you know what I'm saying, Like, especially in the entertainment, you gotta know that like even the biggest celebrities, Man, they make a post and in the comments ninety percent of them is trolls, people saying the most negative.

Stuff about them.

They post their kids and people saying negative stuff about them. So I think Battle Wrapt kind of prepares you for that where it's like, man, I I don't even look into the comments.

I don't. I don't never read YouTube comment after a battle.

You know what I'm saying, Really many as people that's probably saying I'm doing good as a thousand people in there just clowning you.

You know what I'm saying.

So you just learned to just had that tough skin, go out there later, performance on the line, and go to the next one.

You know what I'm saying. You don't really get too involved in what the people saying.

It has to be great for like real life instances like if you get into an argument on the street or something like that.

Yeah, man, you know this is nothing you talked about. Man, I already heard the worst you can say on the street, gone gonna affect me at all?

Right, you learn not to take things personally.

It was definitely absolutely.

Let's go back a little bit to where you're from your origins, Like you're from Compton, California.

California, Man, Compton, California, the west side of Compton. Grew up on a matha street, you know what I mean, it's a I'll say the area is netty blocks, so everybody know that, you know what I'm saying. As far as the gang area. But I went to call with elementary, Walton Middle School, Compton High School sees the child is continuation. You know, even did a little bit of community day. You know, probation school out there. So I've been pretty much every school in Compton that was on my side

You know, because I was so good to La Freddy, He's like La. People always let you know that they're really from La.

Yeah, you know what I'm saying, because because you kind of got to, because you get a lot of people that you know, that that portray these areas and these images and you know, just to make money or to exploit these backgrounds and things like that. And us we we we take pride in that because we're trying to get out of that, Like we don't even want to portray these images like you be a millionaire and you're

You know what I'm saying. You be done. You go this way, that way, this way that way. You out of there. You know what I'm saying. You gones Like it's not a huge city, you know, it's not.

It's not heavily populated like something like like Los Angeles is a big city like Compton is in La County, but very small. So a lot of us, you know, just are talent was was able to get us there. Shut off the Kendrick Lamore's and the you know, the Venus and Serena.

Williams, you know the people that that made away from out of no Way.

You know what I'm saying, Like it and it expired more people like myself and the younger generation to show what they can do.

You know what I'm saying.

Growing up, Like what music were you tapped into?

I listened to all music though, Like I was a West Coast fan. Don't get it twisted. I'm I'm off the snoops, I'm off the parks, I'm off I'm off all of that.

But like I listened to a lot.

Man, I was I'm listening to Scar Phase, I'm listening to said Camera and I'm.

Listening like I just was in to Bars. I was just into real rap. Like I'm so.

I was listening to No Limits Soldiers when they came out. It was hot to meet the hot boys. Of course, I was raised off the hot boys. My first CD I bought physically was Little Wayne Block is Hot. You know what I'm saying, Like BG, you know what I mean, one of my favorite rappers, know I mean from Glad he's out like so like, yeah, I was listening everything.

But it worked out for you because you went to Gramland State right.

And went to Gramlin State. Man. I did a year there at Gramlind State, which was dope for me. Man, you know what I mean. That was one of the dopest experience.

That's where I really got introduced to a lot of other South music too, Like you know, like we listening to they they putting me onto all the bo Cy and Webby at that time. You know when I went there, you know what I'm saying, So I'm coming back to the crib like yeah man, we all yeah, Man, play this right here, you know what I'm saying, Like you feel me? So that that also, like you said, it helped me because I kind of was already in tune with a lot of Southern music, you know what I mean.

So when did like battle rap come attracted to you? Was like with the DVD era or.

Yeah, the dB I was watching Red dollars, you know what I'm saying.

He was one of the dudes that out that I watched do that, you know what I mean at a young age, might just seeing somebody like that being young and chewing.

Dudes up, you know what I mean, Like, oh, you know where needed, but like that was fire to me.

Like you know what I'm saying, Like that whole Philly rap scene, uh, the New York rap scene with the t rexes and the murder moves, you know, like I used to watch that.

I even watch Fight.

Club though, Like I'm talking to Sirius Jones, Jim Battles. I was watching that old solo on there and the Remy and Lady.

Look.

I watched all those battles, you know. So I just was in tune with battle rap as a youngster, Like I think it was always dope to me. Was was someone was always into When.

Did you realize that you had the skill to get into it.

I used to battle like in the hood with my homies, but just like only my people to know, you know what I'm saying, Like my guy Elata Mayor, he would be battling like like people to know. I hear battle people at school it'd be like chewing dudes up, like going crazy me. It was something I just play with a little bit, you know. So I never really like took battling serious. I'll say, like twenty fourteen or something. I just had an opportunity to like do like a

It was just something we showed up to do.

I wasn't even taking it serious, but people actually liked it and took a liking from it, and I ended up like like moving on like with it, getting getting seen by Nerves and coming to New York and you know, so forth and so on with that. Like then I just it took off from there. So I say, like it's twenty twenty three. My first major battle was twenty seventeen, so broout about five six years in and done did more than probably people who've been doing this twenty thirty years.

You know what I'm saying, legend killer right, Yeah, man.

You know what I'm saying.

I'm like the fastest growthing this though, Like you know, I have the fastest growthing this. I battled loaded Lux Murder movie. People don't even been in here twenty thirty years. Don't even got them on their resume. You know, those two dudes, like I just said, I watched growing up. You know, they've been doing this so many years. I battled all those guys. I won three Champion of the Years, which is the highest accolades you can get as far as like United States Battle Wrap.

I won three.

It's only been six that've been given out. And in the other years I was in the top five or something, you know what I'm saying. So I've done that. I'm talking about main event after main event. I've brung back battle Rap to the West Coast on a higher level, you know, like soet Outh Disaster rumnitty than he Mars Daylight.

Yeah, Like it's a lot of people that like tell me.

I'm the best of all time or Mount Rushmore, you know, and that mean a lot because, like you say, it's dudes who've been doing it so long it don't even get through Maccola, so six years then to make this headway, man, you know, it's definitely dope for me.

Journey, what does get? You got these Mount Rushmore look like you can cool yourself too.

If I put myself on there, not all four spots, not I was gonna say it's me, but honestly, if I put myself on there, it'll be myself. Like I always say, I don't be wanting to be myself. Put myself because I feel like I got my own land. You know what I'm saying, what I did in the sixth month man over here, Yeah, I got the the Gatti rushmore.

You know what I'm saying.

I'm over here by myself boom, but my four will be hit man holler off impacting views alone, Like I'm gonna say, off views alone, Like I don't have to be skill set or nothing. He's literally got some of the most views off every platform. You know what I'm saying, He's done everything in this Uh, we're talking about punching and just being somebody who punched your head off and and and and reavited and re you know re you know, restructured the way battle rap is done today. Rum Nitty

He his music has even made here waves. You know, what I'm saying.

So he's got the impact of probably more than anybody in the culture. You know what I'm saying, Like people all over the world know who he is through his music and his battling. And then I would say, tay Rock.

You know what I'm saying. I would say those four.

Right there, impact wise, mount rushmore wise, like everything wise, it would be those dudes. You know what I'm saying, Like for this generation. You know, if you go older, of course you can go to Loop you know. You know what I mean, Lux Move, Disaster, AVERB. You know what I'm saying, Like that'll be the top four all time, you know what I mean. But for impact and everything that it is, it got to be It's definitely got to be run. It gotta be hit Man, gotta be Rock, gotta be Serf.

You know what I'm saying.

Word it up and you got your own music. We mentioned earlier out of nowhere to be happy with the response of that.

Man, definitely happy with the response to that. Man, like a lot of people rocking with the songs on there. Man, rocking with the songs on there. Get a lot of play from it out here, man, like you go to these local spots, people playing it in the streets, you know. So I'm definitely happy with it. I'm working on the album right now, finish drop called a Lumigatti. Got a lot of production on there from my guy j Nouri. Man, sorry, J Nouri is all over that. God got Larry making

You know.

We got a lot lot of dope records on there. So that's really what I'm focusing on right now, just getting that roll out for that album to let people know, like, you know, like I'm doing this music.

I just dropped the video letter to the block. You know what I'm saying. That's going crazy.

A lot of people being real receptive to the video and the message of the song that's on the album. So that's really what I've been on man in his bag of just trying to like turn them into the music, Like you know what I'm saying, Like let him see that. Like literally, you know y'all tuning in right now, so

Out of nowhere. You had a line too that stood out to me. You said you only regret is that you didn't meet Nipsey Man.

Man, that's a fact, Like uh, and I had opportunities too, So like I only could regret that on myself. Shut out my guy Jay Rocker was one of his bodyguards, you know what I'm saying, one of his bodyguard.

They had a show.

I want to believe it was like every Side or something and it was with t I or it was something going on. He entered he like invited me, like yo, Nip because I had music I was playing back then. I gave rock one of my stuff, like man, play this, and he's like, man, nip mess with that song. Like now I'm saying, yeah, I mean rock with that record,

We just didn't get a.

Chance to you know, do that like yo, my name is what my name is, and get that kind of bond. So that's one of my biggest regrets because he I come, you know what I'm saying, and he definitely like changed the game for West Coast Rap, changed the game for like young street dudes that's trying to like better they self. I think his message was clear on that, like, you know, more so than the music, just you know, just trying

And before the end of the year we got another battle lined up, right Gods the Arena nine.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, man, definitely got some more going up man in New york'sid Alex Luthor. You know what I'm saying. They got a league called a Battle. That's how I likes that in like upstate New York, they do a lot of events up there. I got a battle coming up in Chicago too, where it's a lot of California catch flying to Chicago to do a Chicago.

Versus LA event.

I'm doing a one round of there, but a lot of the other local California guys that's on this card that they're gonna put on. Man, we're going against a lot of the local Chicago talent, you know, just something to kind of just keep you know, try to keep it fresh man, because you get a lot of the same themed battles all the time, the big names versus the big name. But it's a lot of dudes that's putting in work, that's on these local scenes that need

You know. That's kind of like what I do in this you know, I just love them rod Man over there. You know what I'm saying.

Mean more, though it do mean more on the road and battle rap is just like any other sport, Like you go to somebody house and they heckling. They cheering against you is the crowd, and then when it's over, they're like, nah, he to go.

He came over here and did that? You know, that's in the garden most definitely in the guarden.

I would like to see a geeche guy at a Ward three three.

We want that though, because I feel like everybody felt like I got the second. Everybody feel like he got the first, and the Ward and Gotty the Boxers had a trilogy, you know what I'm saying, Me Gotty and Mickey Ward. So you never know, man, you might see me World one more time. You know what I'm saying, You might see it one more time.

Is a victory more important if it's a three oh or two to one too. You're still satisfied with the two to one.

Yeah, were satisfied with the two one, but the three to zero is to like, yeah, like, yeah, you give me that three oh?

Like anymore, Yeah, I thirtied you.

It's harder to say I thirty you that I two want you, you know, what I'm saying, like I'm thirty man, you know, so you know thirty.

Yeah, we don't want those splits. We want you nanimous man.

Are you impressed by yourself with some of the bars that you come up with?

You give us some favorites, my favorite ones? You got them away camp.

Yeah, I just said the other day in Canada, I said, uh.

No, he said dreams, dreams.

I came from nothing. That was hard. You know what I'm saying.

Literally, I literally came from nothing.

You know what I'm saying. That was one of mines. You know what I'm saying, uh out of the voicemail board. You know what I'm saying against serve a lot of people like that when the bad news when I just said, they only.

Had bad reception.

No service was like the one the antwine was the whole flips you know, so's crazy like a lot of that, man. You know what I'm saying When I battle surf the wave length, you know what I'm saying, the casket. Sorry, So a lot of those ones for show for show, like you know I got I got a lot though, Yeah, I got a lot of quotables out there in Battle show.

The recent one I think you said, Uh it was the French tips line.

Oh yeah, yeah, so much residue under my fingernails. It looked like French tips, Like I said that.

You know what I'm saying, man, Like I could go all day, man, you know what I'm saying. We go there.

There was another one. It was a Marvel set up.

With yeah, man at the doctor strange, you know what I'm come on, man, that's what I do, beat up man. Yeah. And it's crazy because I'm really I can remember them a little bit. But usually when I get off the stage, like I'm one of the battle upers, like I can go blank, like I've been so like cramming it.

Of let it all out.

So it's like you walking to me after the battle, like, yo, what was that line? I'll be like, man, you know what I'm saying, Like I don't know being later on that night and something started coming back to me, but like yeah, definitely man, Like I'm blessed to say I'm one of the batt robbers that do got a lot of quotables do I got a lot of memorable rounds.

I was known for having monumental third rounds.

That's what made this last battle so monumental because I came in the game with known as people would always say, like you already going down one, oh, because you gonna win the third. That was kind of my theme of coming up, like I would always win the third round no matter what, Like the stuff I was saying, the third would would kind of like be the best thing seeing in the battle.

So yeah, man, most definitely, you know what I mean?

Was that the strategy to make sure you have a strong first round, you you're gonna lose around losing a second.

Lose second, and yeah, you got what I'm saying.

Yeah, but then now I think even the seconds though, a lot of people try to win those second rounds. Now, you know what I'm saying, because you know, like some people those first rounds, you know, you get the crowd hype, but then you can kind of take them back when that second change the way the battle going. So but like, yeah, the most important rounds to most people is that first and that third is either how you started and how you finish it and stuff.

But do you go back and watch the old videos or the old battles just to like game tape?

Yeah, ok, yeah, Like I don't really watch a lot of other battlers. But when I go back and watch myself, like I will go see like where I can improve at see what kind of line did they receive better

No one, do you remember any tough points lines that you received?

Oh?

Yeah, man, man, I don't heard so many, man, like for real, for real?

Man?

Uh what was it?

Man?

Niitty said something like you know what I'm saying, you should have? Uh, you should have?

He said, he should have went back to the old bab he said. He I can't even think of the line. I don't want to butcher it. But uh he he had a he had a cold boar. You know what I'm saying, uh about me with the tree or something like uh like you know, I mean a big bully, racist, biased jazz.

You should have found the bigger tree or something like that was cold.

Uh.

I had a bar when I first came up with young Griz. You know what I'm saying by my name being Geechee Geechee Gotti. You know what I'm saying a lot of people know, like the Geechee is a you know, that's that's a that's a whole culture of people.

You know what I mean? That represent that. You know.

So he had a line referring to that like he gonna be six feet deep, but his mind on his mother land. You know what I'm saying, Like and you know what I mean, Like the people that know that, like that line hit. So y'all don't heard some of the coldest stuff in that ring against me? For chuff shure?

Have you ever bombed?

Like choked? Only one time? Man on a reel? One time and it was against Danny Myers. I was on a hat.

It was a one round battle and I knew I was gonna choke too. It was like right before the battle. Why I say I don't smoke or drink no more, man, because right before the battle and somebody passed me a blunt to hit it, and I'm just I hit the blunt.

As soon as I hit it, I forgot everything. As soon as I forgot everything, they like to the.

Stage, Geechee got I'm like, what the hold on? Ten minutes son and I was, I'm walking to the stage. I'm trying to remember it. I'm trying to remember it, so I'm wrapping it in my head and everything and I and as soon as it like they pulling my name, I'm getting to like the middle of where I got in my head, Like I'm wrapping it in my head, and i don't remember like the middle of it.

I'm like, oh ship.

So as I'm rapping it, I feel it coming up, like oh man, like this is that part that I couldn't even remember.

As I was walking to the stage.

And if you watch the battle, I say it as soon as I was choked, I'm like, man, dang, right when it was cracking, like I had him like you know what I'm saying, like I'm bombing on Danny the whole battle and then right there, I but then I got it back and I ended strong, but like, yeah, that was something like you know, that's why I need a three round with Danny Man I got I gotta I gotta make that up to him, you know, the boar goy, I gotta get three.

But that's the only battle of my career that I choked in.

Yeah, before we get out of here, what do you consider your top three victories?

Mm, that's a good one. Okay, that's a good one.

One of course, loaded Lux loaded Lux Man. Uh pioneered the game. It was in La hosted by Drake all my people's there was a big battle, monumental, you know what I'm saying. That was a huge win, probably one of my hugest wins. Easy to block captain his latest one. I feel like for everything that it did for my career, all the viral and is everything talked about it, the match up, what.

It meant, how big that was, you know what I'm saying. And Uh and probably in the same breath of.

It, Easy was the New Jersey Turk Battle because at that time, it was the first event on Caffeine.

It was the headline. It was full of the face of the new era. It meant a lot. It was a lot of steaks on that one. So yeah, those three probably was like be the biggest for sure.

So the biggest stays.

Yeah, come on, Yeah, when the lights is on, I gotta show up.

Man.

You know what I'm saying. I got to show up and the light when the pressure is on for so for so.

Thank you for showing up for us.

Many appreciate you man.

You man, big geech, big geech, you gotti in the building. Man.

Shout out to those studio you know what it is.

Word up.

Yeah.

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