Rap Radar: Fat Joe & Mayor

Yeah, rap rate our podcast, Elliott Wilson, this just beat out, beat out.

What's up? Baby?

Going good?

Ellie? How you I'm good? Brother?

You know it's always good. We always feel good when we have some good episodes.

Man.

We got somebody assist in that chair and knows how to conduct themselves and be talkative and bring life to their points and you know, funny, some humors, some insight. And I think that we had that last episode with our guy, Sauce Sauce Walker.

Man, that guy knows how to talk. Man.

You guys said, we think we think we had like seven questions basically at least at least seven, maybe eight. But no, you know it's always good. We had like you said, I got talking. Guess you know that you can definitely elucidate his points and you know, get his message out.

So shouts to Sauce Walker, and I was that was a fun conversation. He was super cool and the fans is loving him.

Man.

I don't know.

I think we might we probably should have been and done him a long time ago. Man with late passed late passed for the raparated our boys, right, I think it was. I think it's kind of right on time though, But you know, coming off with Ghetto Gospel three, I think we should have like did it maybe a little bit closer. But I'm happy with all the timing of it now. So yeah, it was crazy when something he had met me back in the day. Somebody has sent me the photo. So it basically was in Houston in

There to meet like the Houston community when she was a member. She was a radio in Houston. Yeah, for sure, the beat So I did that.

I came out there and there's a shot. It's like a young sauce walker like in the corner. It's crazy man. Yes, the archives crazy man. I'm like, yeah, he got a low cut, you know, even had the dreads.

So and they said that's what he began a whole lee and then the dripping and the splash and look at the man. This guy's big time. Now we got receipts our hereo.

Right, we'd be outside, man, be outside all.

The day, man work.

But things will always go smoothly beat out as you know. Man, this episode was under a lot of the stress man. The stress man, a lot of things went left for this one. Before we got to go all right, they went left, but then they turned right, man, and everything worked out, you know the way they tended to beat Man, but it shouts to uh, fat.

Joe and Man Joe, Fat Joe and Mayor they saved the day. Man.

You know you fellow podcasters can relate. All of a sudden, you get a last minute cancelation. You're scrambling, You got the studio booking and trying to get somebody in the chair. These episodes ain't cheap make and it ain't easy. If then anything, we just call our superstars and they just pop up.

It's just easy, breezy but no.

But but it's crazy though, I did you know, we're scrambling trying to get I guess somebody to fill the seat. And then out of know, if Vida just pulls Fat Joe out of nowhere, Man, how you get Fat Joe last minute?

Like that? The god Fat Joe. I needn't do that.

Relationships are worth more than money, you know. And I was just thinking, like, who can we get that's here locally in New York. That's a good conversation. And I was, you know, going down my mental roller decks and I was like, what about Joe. Joe's around, He's back in New York. You know who doesn't love Fat Joe, especially coming off as a moment at Hip Hop fifty at the Yankee Stadium. Yeah, he say he had the best week ever.

Man.

I thought about what about Mayor, because you know Mayor is always hanging with Fat Joe. Mayor's like to Sneak or King. You know, they're like one A, one B. You know, it's terra squad. So it's like, yo, what let me just give a call Fat Joe and see what's good. I called him, said, your big debuty address.

Right.

We and Joe know each other since the early nineties. But at my report with him and Beat that has his own report with these artists. Man, it's crazy. Yeah, I love it. It's crazy, man, But you know, everything worked out. Joe came in like within an hour. He

So well, whoever gave him that shirt.

It's about to tag our Instagram relentlessly because it's a major look. But yeah, like you said, though, if you really think about it, who epitomizes hip hop fifty more than Fat Joe in the sense of like being from the broad speaking from the birthplace. You know, you know, he's a graffiti rider like he epitomized the culture in so many different ways. Man, So I'm surprised we should have just thought of it in general. But it's so great that you know, you thought of it and he

Yeah, man, he was more here popped in Fat Joe.

We haven't had him on a pod since what maybe, like you like five six years ago?

Almost, Yeah, that was with Rebi mand I was going back to that.

That was what we're doing, the CBS era of the pod and like I always remember that, like Fad you had this some overseas show yep, and he was in Australia.

It was in Australia and he did.

A bad I have found a clip on YouTube of him doing the show in Australia. He had did a teaser, like an opening verse up all the way up.

It wasn't done yet, right, And then I remember you telling me he was like, yo, fat, Joe got this song. It sounds like it could be something blah blah blah.

Yep, and then like it he came all the way up then, which was like his biggest records is Lean Back.

It's crazy, but I always credit you man. You was so coming.

And remember they took it off the YouTube and I was like, wait, what happened to that thing that was on YouTube? And then right next you know, they put it out and oh you've seen it. Our god if petty king Drake, he's not just mad.

At me that Joe went on his uh. Joe went on his uh.

His live y g was saying out he gets jealous of Drake and Drake it's all these gifts from like, you know, billionaires and all these guys.

So I think Joe, I think Drake tapped him.

Back and sent him like some the socks, like some steak.

Socks, but you know, the rmories and his white He reveals that the interview is that Drake really wanted to be on the all the way up remixed.

That's crazy. Well you got to say that, you got to say that for the episode.

I'm sorry, brother, the little teaser alert, little teaser alert now, but I'm just pointing out big that song was. And you know I ended up with him in hole on it, and that was the kind delay of him in whole you know, getting on the same page. Now he's signed the Rock Nation Like it's still bizarre, man, think about it, like twenty years after the Blackout Game, the Rutger, I don't want to speak about the Rutcker.

Like right that Joe's evolution is just beyond yeah, blessing.

You know, he's definitely like in his third act of his career, you know. And we talked a little bit about that and going to the White House of course parked things and again he saign in the hell of a week. So I think it's only the right time to get into fat Joe.

Let's get into a man and man. Yeah, first time I met Mayor really and really chopped it.

Up with him.

So, yeah, man, you know, super cool Man sneaking collection is bar none.

Nobody can mess with him. You know what I'm saying.

He's trying to He's trying to battle beat out of the watch collections.

You know what I'm saying.

I see how they're doing it, but there has to be beat. I believe that, nah man, But this is that is a New York Man.

Great conversation.

Man. Again, our guys came through it for us at the last minute, and the clutch Man Wrapper it Up podcast.

Continues to shine.

Yes, sir, let's get into a man's fat Joe and Mayor on the rap rate our podcasts, Yeah, raperate our podcast.

Elie Wilson, just beat all right?

What's up?

Good man?

Yo? We got some family here. Man, sir.

They came through for us. The clutch went it down.

I'm gonna tell you something I never noticed before. You switch up your voice for interviews. You're like master, I'm like yo, that boys come from just talking to him for an hour. The intro intro bounced.

Well, Hi, I'm fat Joe sneak in Sario.

So in full transparency, we had emergency cancelation. Yes, beat out, put the power signal out there.

I put the I put the T S sign in the sky. Never let you guys do. But yo, I was a bum today. I'm actually wearing free Merchau. I was looking at lives right there. I was going to my stylist, you know, and then he said yeah, and I came and I didn't read.

Oh man, ship, don't judge me on this drip not so good.

Joe and May of course you're coming through dripped out as always.

Per usual with us.

I'm just happy to be here.

I see a sneaker that most people don't have.

And the Kicks, the Kicks gentleman.

New York release. Wow, strictly New York.

I really made that for Miami, but they were like, y'all, let's let's just kill New York with it, because you know New York.

You know, it's my home base, no matter what.

You know.

For the people that don't know that are listening, that don't know what we're talking about, you're wearing the Air Force one Terror Squad Collaborations.

Yes, it comes out like in another week. But let me tell you what's the weirdest thing is somebody I've seen, somebody, whoever you are. Finally I got a good message on Twitter, because you know, Twitter is the home of fat fog.

Your mother's a lesion.

At all. If you ever want to feel like shit, just go to your Twitter one Like these sleeople are really on it, right hom I hate And so I went there and the guy said, you know, it's crazy because I always say this, right, not not not even comparing me to these guys.

But you know, Martin Luther King to me was the greatest American.

They killed them, and then years later they gave him his own avenue on every street and the holiday Malcolm X great American.

They killed him. Now he got schools.

So this terrorist Squad sneaker was actually illegal. The guy who designed that for me, originally they fired him for this is designing Terry swand sneakers from me. He worked that Nike, so they fired him how May twenty something years ago, and now we're celebrating the terrorist squad air Force one that he got fucking fired for general release.

It's unbelievable.

Somebody said, Yo, you know the guy who designed that got fired behind that sneaker. Wow, it's so crazy, it's out now, you know, that's the world.

Wow, that's amazing, Joe.

Donald Trump, Okay, Donald Trump. Now I'm the king of morals, principles said my whole life. I wish no one death. I wish my enemy jail. Right. But I really hate Donald Trump, and I hate Rudy Giuliani even more. Despise him for what he was doing out here and New York. But I'm scared. These guys just got hit with the Rico Lord. And you're talking about a guy who hates these guys. But I don't wish that on No, I really don't wish that on them. Seventy seven years old,

Is Donald Trump is going to fucking jail.

Rudy Giuliani, the creator of the Rico Lord, thirty years later, is.

Going to jail on.

The fucking Rico. He don't put a thousand, ten thousand people in jail on the Rico. And so this scares me. Earth scares me. I just want to die with no incidents nor I don't want to stick around long enough for them to come back and hang me from my terror squad laces or something. This world is fucking crazy. No, this world is fucking crazy.

Well, you want somebody positives, beautiful news. You know you're you're a man who's had a lot of legendary hip hop moments. I feel like you just did a recent back to back on this.

Fat Joe you had a fifty.

Cent brought you out of Barclays, then Yankee Stadium.

He took the shirt off again.

They history, Yeah, you gotta paint the picture with us those forty eight hours.

It was like for you.

Oh no, it was you were there too, man, Right, It's more like a one.

I think it was more like a four day adrenaline rush that I couldn't go to sleep. I ain't had that in years, maybe since Big Pun went double platinum and we was gonna do the Puerto Rican Parade. I couldn't sleep. I was like Puerto Rican Parade and you know you can't sleep. I'm thinking, Yo, we're gon, we're gonna do this. Still not a player, everybody, you know, it ain't been since that. Now it's hip hop's fiftieth birthday. I don't know if you saw the clip I put

No, no, I get it.

You know, if you're a young dude, or you're not from New York, or you don't really know the whole real fact joe history, you're from Memphis, Tennessee, not just Willing wherever. It sounds like he's full of shit. This guy's biggie and too far, oh fucking way, right, So.

I'm Joey Capp.

Now they all start a cap wow, right, and then Home of Twitter they call me an appropriator, they call me a white guy that I've jumped into. No, it's fucking incredible. No, I'm from the birthplace of him. Absolutely. And so the other day we at Yankee Stadium and grandm Ha's the flash came in. You know, my brother was this crep boy you don't know, carrying the records, carrying the records while he DJ. You know, I knew him since I was five years old, a little baby, Mellie mel.

All these guys are from my block. Shot Rock is from my block.

And it's crazy, is the weirdest thing is that I looked at uh women in the hip hop yet last night. And then you know I used to tell people biz Monkey used to work in my recipes.

Biz Monkey used to come to my store once a week.

And work the cast registers and watching the bis Monkey documentary, they showed a video of him and the castis.

These stories are unbelievable.

Flash was like, Yo, your babysitters, little Terry, your little kiky they invented. Let me hear you say, O, he's on my babysitters grim Master. Flash, there's footage of it, right, And you know I'll say I got bone Thugs and Biggie to do the bone and Biggie and everybody caught me. Joey Capp and then crazy Boner come on and say no, no, no, sure Joe did it.

He made it happen, And so did you say?

For a flash, he always cursed you out on text, Like, what's what's the issue?

If you think he's an asshole? You know this guy, he's a professional asshole. But no, no, if he loves you, he'll die for you man to give you anything. He's one of my few friends that give me anything in the world. He's with me every day. He's an asshole professionally, right, but we love him, right, Yes, Grandmaster Flash got that he come up in here. You better act like the guard came in here. Don't don't be settled with him. He know he started this, he know he invented this ship.

You cannot argue with these people.

But you know hip hop's fiftyeth Yes, Now let me describe it to you. What happened right four days you want? You said, I'm gonna tell you what really happened.

I was supposed to come up with Buster.

Buster was calling me, but I was shooting some episode like a panel, and I got there late and fifty was already on and they was like, yo, fifth said touch it. So it was like God's doing. We blew that ship down, Legendary. It was pandemonium, And I want to thank the g unit Loayu fans forgiving me respect and love and that way, because you know, we warred with each other and to come out in his fan base and for them to go crazy was a beautiful thing.

Now Yankee Stadium. I prepared for that.

You know, I'm I'm a warlord like people don't understand that street hip hop. I'm a warlord like versus wasn't war Versus was me and my brother, and I couldn't disres it.

You know, if I ain't like Joau, I have brung fifty cent hour on versus.

Like you know, I'm a warlord, like I know what to do, Like you know, I come up. I'm a descendant, a disciple of terrorists. One, I'm a disciple. You know, I'm a warlord. You know what I mean.

So we and Yankee Stadium fiftieth verse.

I know it's all love, but you can't come in the Bronx and Fat Joe's little fifteen minutes.

You're not leaving saying all them Bronx boys was.

Here, but you drove there from the projects, from my apartment, from my old apartment. I drove there from the projects. Thank god they loved me so much. I might have had three four million in jury on drop top going through the Bronx stop by the KR in Vietnam, My man Miami trap pistol P came out, dapt them pulled up to the stadium.

The camera comes on, Fat Joe's there live.

Meanwhile the intro's going crazy legs and my cousin, that's actually my cousin and he's number two in the world. He's going to the Olympics for b born gravity. But actually my cousin Crazy, he's from Queen's Rich. Wow, here's some his family, you know the DNA. His mother's from queens Ridge Jakes. So they go in they do their thing. You know, Crazy, how you said your set off Breakers got fiftieth year of hip hop. Let me tell you how I arrived. When I arrived, it was so much traffic, right,

They're calling me. Now if I I had.

To convince a man to let me in Yankee Stadium, not there. I said, bro, they're gonna bryot. They're gonna bum rush one million percent if I go through the normal way. All these bronze dudes are going to riot. They're gonna force their way in, like fat joking. So

White two K didn't finish us?

Motherfuckers was texting motherfucker's like why two K? Like your happy birthday?

Brother?

I can't rest like it was some shit. I never I have never felt this since I was a little kid around hip hop. I pull up to the stadium. You had young brothers and sisters with their own little speaker freestyling, Yo, I'm nice this. I'm like Aaron Judge, I'm this. Ten steps later you have bands playing shook ones like the Roots, Boom boom. You look in the street, the cops are breakdancing. No, no, they was there break dance unifour motherfuckers was on Yankee Stadium property.

Barbara Cwing on Yankee Stadium.

Yankee Stadium property. You might as well be in the White House, right, that's Yankee Stadium property. Motherfuckers with Barbie Curing in the stadium, people walking by you looking like run DMC with the rope chain. The shit it was unreal. The vibe was too unreal. And I had to do what I had to do, and so I came from the projects and what fat Joe used to do. Anybody who's from my projects, they know I was the fat

I had the what's my man or?

Jeff Hammon made me a special custom made jacket for me and tone Sunshine, so I was Poppy Shampoo. Originally. Couple of chests heads out while I'm there, I said, man, let me let my ass. Let me let me show them all my ass. Joey Crack coming out the night, So I take my jacket off. Last time I did that was twenty years ago with Shatzi, and then we was on stage again. I said, you know what a Shatia,

You're in my house. You're in my house.

There's no way that's like me going to LA fiftieth anniversary Snoop Dogg not ripping me down, you know what I mean. So I so my whole show was My whole show was structured around Warlord.

You know, it wasn't beef, wasn't nothing.

But it was like and they only gave me fifteen minutes, so it had to be like a medley.

It had to be like like.

If you notice, we was like doing the the Jamaican sound clashing, so all my songs was clashing into songs like we was just clashing. We wasn't talking. We wasn't because we had to get it off and and you know I and so the whole thing is like it was like a watch. It's like movable parts. So I had to get cared. If I couldn't get in car rest, couldn't get it, Peter Guns, couldn't get it in the shanty,

If it wasn't for this South broth you we on our ship.

Now now it broke my heart.

Joe broke my heart. Man k r s that song.

Man.

We're queens, guys, So this day your queens guys.

He stops hanging out with empty sharing backstage, hung out. I kissed rock Sane Chantey, not Craig g I said, what's up to him? And I kissed Rocks and Chantey before I walked on stage.

That's my word. I hung out with Shannon all day. That's just hip hop.

No, it was no vibe.

But then you did when you did DJ red Alerts.

It's like, ah, it's funny.

We talk about this all the time. You queens guys will never.

Get bronze guys. He told me.

I don't know.

He told me he said he was going for me in versus and when I walked out to the bridges over instrumentally he said fuck it. He said I better lose. He was like, fuck you, you gotta lose. His nephew got mad. I mean, nephew never goes against me for nothing. Really, he said, man, fuck you the queens.

I know. He said, you lost queens.

He walked out to Jyru with the bridges over. He was like, we got cueisers off. You got PSD from that. Shan was nice.

But when the bridges Over came out, this is the instant knockout.

It was just like instant damn one hit.

He kiss. I remember the first time hearing it. It was just over. I think, yeah, yeah, it was freezing outside. I had the Walking on the World about it in my book, but Jose, I'm outside. There's no way I thought that up. So you gotta understand the Juice Crew was like Nas jay Z Snooped all.

They were like Nas jay Z Snooper. They were the first man, not police, right.

They were like anybody you ever thought with somebody drake on the same fucking team.

So there was no way you thought this little kid from the Bronx care of Us One was gonna do it to him.

So and I had to be honest with you.

I had never heard you making music in my life before.

That was right. So when that shit came on, he was regularly was like brand new Care of Us One. I was outside with a walkman on. It was below zero or some shit. I was in my projects and that she said, boom boom boom and doom boom boom boom boom, And I'm like, and he got the bridges over, the bridges over, put him up by the bridge is over, Hey, bro, you're coming down there? That yo. I started running around my whole project yard out a shout out to the

It's funny when they did that versus They were in the same dressing room in the back, just chilling. They were sitting there laughing and I.

Try to ice grilled Cane and all that. He was like, yo, bro, I know who you're here with.

Calm down, Calm down. We brothers, like, we don't need that energy.

Joe was such a moment to watch them chilling. It was so funny. I looked at Chris. I'm like, Christian, I love you, just don't look in my direction when symphony comes on, because that's to me, that's like I'm Kane's my fact. Like I love Kinge and whenever I hear the symphony, I go nuts on.

We love Kinge too, How can you not right? We love king We love empty shann Bro I hung out with It.

Was nice man people. Oh Man.

Shan was that Dawn by Law Dawn in my book.

I described that battle. But I picked up Shan legend like, I was like, yo, he's you know, living legend, hit maker.

You know he set that bitch off.

How proud are you of the book and the impact it hadn't out?

You know what's so important is I just wanted to be transparent. You know, I feel like we got an obligation. I'm happy that I was able to tell my story, you know what I mean, as transparent as possible, and you know, you know I can't lie to the people. I got to tell them where I really came from, what I really went through, so they could learn from my mistakes or maybe inspire somebody who's going through a tough time, maybe with depression, maybe with you know, so

Shout out to Jez. I just came back from Detroit doing the Q and A.

You know for him now rating he got a book called Adversity for sale, which is so crazy. It's so similar to my book. You know, he smoked WE one time they rushed him to the hospital. I smoke WE one time they rushed me.

And I'm listening to them and I said, damn, well we had the same life. That shit was crazy.

You know. I smoked WE one time and ran out the crib butt naked. The girl gasked me to smoke weed and know, like te we did the hospital please like you know, and similar things. But it's you know, hip hop is fifty yes, what does that mean? People are grown hip hop fans. The white boys that loved hip hop music growing up run d them see everybody else Now they're executives and ceo And then you wonder why you said, damn hip hop is on ESPN. Hip

I was so happy and saving to see people wearing run DMC t shirts waiting till one in the morning when we wanted to see Running Sea and they stayed for Run DMC. Nobody really left. It was like people stayed in Like, first of all, I had so much stress. Then I had to pull it off.

Nobody understands the fat Joe's fifty two fat motherfucker diving up and down the stairs. Stayed trying to work out. Then I gotta walk up to my family in the suite. I was done, Like they should have They should have gave me the wheelchair out of it.

I was gone done, and but I had to stay for n DMC.

I have to stay for as I wanted to ask you that story. You had total enough.

And I always tell people that, like how Sucker MCS and me and be I talk about it, even be not being younger, How Sucker MC has changed the game of hip hop, like instantly.

One play meant the game was over.

One play. We had that in our lives.

We heard Eminem the first time we heard you know, we had a moments nothing, but it changed the game.

Like the minute you hear this, you know, okay, we're moving this way or you know we're out casting them, Oh shit is moving this way? Like and hip hop, they's the moments very much, so much more fewer now than when we was growing up. But like we're saying, hip hop was growing I'm in junior high school. Everybody kept playing the Treacher Street coming, come On, come On, come on, dax Shun, Like everybody had their routine of that three girls that I wish I could pay now

And not that ship was like a Martian came. It was like, oh no, it's over.

What's crazy? Is right? At the concert at Yankee Stadium Boom boom. It just turned me into a little kid where I remember how all mythical, how it felt like I was at a play Hamilton. It felt like, Yo, this is run damn C. And they were yeah, but no. When you heard it, you remember when you was a kid and this ship was just too incredible. When you was just like yo, and they're like, yeah, jam message j Jam Jam Jam messy Jake run d Jam Message and it was like, oh, ship, the gods are here,

I seen the Run DMC show where d m C.

Unfortunately, I know he got somewhere his voice he didn't sound so good and Run was crazy out of shape right, not not in y shady.

He came with that motherfucking a game. They were well prepared. Lauren Hill, I've been in shows with Lauren.

Was like, you know, look, no disrespect, no, no, no disrespect. You know, she's my favorite female rapper of all time. I said, you can google that a million times. She gotta know she's the best that ever did it right. But I've been to some shows hers Anita Baker. You know when you go to the show, you want to sing the song but you know, they switch it up to where you can't even fucking sing with it, but the la lah like You're like, yo, where's that at the song? I'm trying to fucking sing along?

Not this night. She fucking was like, bang bang, she ain't come to play.

You know what it was?

It was fifty a year, he thought, I thought it was.

She kept going, no, no, she kept going.

Shout out to everybody who did not participate in that one event.

You know, guys like The Game who had legendary albums for real.

It's so many artists that weren't there that I wish they would have been there because their contributions to hip hop was was too important, you know, And so I'm just sorry that anybody who had another show, another obligation wasn't invited, because so many people deserve to be on that stage.

Right, looking back on it now, I mean with fifty years in hip hop, but you also thirty years in your career. Represent turned thirty earlier this year, and then also we have Don Carter Gina turned twenty five five. You know, I always wanted to know because Big Pun's Capital Punishment came out that year as well. Did you feel the pressure coming off of a big Punt's success going into your own album.

I can't say that to you because I never felt pressure. So my thing, I legitly played number two for Pun to grow right. So when I signed, when I met Punt, I knew he was the best Latino. I knew that Latinos needed him no matter what. I knew he was better than everybody lyrically, because I'm a hip hop historian. So I went from Cougi Rap and went to Nas you know, went to j and when you know, this guy was like did in the middle. I knew what we had right, and so I said, let me focus

Yeah.

She finally told me, yo, you might have fucking took it, like I was like, yo, ma, And that we have like Bibby in the in the cut, we had Startlemine on the cut, zat Landolph in the cut, Our Harrington in the cut, you know, Ai Straberry, Carmelo like we it was dumb, but.

It didn't happen this twentieth Anniversarion.

You know, if that fly ain't come out and I did this with you, they would have been calling me Joey Cap when all the clips come. The motherfuckers think I'm Joey Ka. You know what I'm saying. It's just I'm sorry. I was doing this type of thing. So I go in the rucker and when I go in there to see the young kids. It was the championship game, and then we bringing the sneaker, the guy on the MC go this is your park. This you own the park. This is your championships. Nobody like fat like they but

We was really outside outside. I can't complain.

Look, I want to live till one hundred and five, but God forbid y'alls outside outside. God was good to me, you know. I was able to like really really uh and and look we're still gone. We don't miss a beat. We're still out here working. We're still out here doing what we gotta do. Actually, were bigger than ever.

Were you happy with the success of Don Carter Gina come up with Capital Punishment?

Though, yeah, I didn't care, Like my thing was h see and Don Carter Gina, I was still like underground.

So you have the record with Puff that was a big one that was a street record with Puff.

If Big Pun, if Biggie never comes out the fact Joe never makes a hit because I was there when Puff did all those hits with Biggie, and so when I met Pun, we would have just kept the D I T C with Pun Underground boom.

Back, you know what I'm saying.

But I.

All day and that's what Pun wanted to do. But I was like, Oh no, you're gonna be the Spanish Biggie bro. We're gonna get to the bag and we're actually gonna see a female fan in the crowd, because before that we had motherfuckers spitting raises and army fatigue and they ship. And so when Pun did it, but I still thought I was gonna be mop. I still don't call the Gina. If you really listen to it, it's a it's a digging in the Crates Underground album.

We gotta keep these hits and when come on, we dugging and what's love?

Because you feel like that you really went for it, I know whatever, I really went for Don Carter Gina, I was just spitting.

Blow your back out this with that was shoddy talking.

Album.

I think, yes, stay on that album and so don Carter Gina to me was still.

A borderline underground album is where I went for it, you know, where I said, all right, I'm gonna be a superman.

Yeah, so go back to the first album represent I always wondered like coming off the street knowing you could.

Wrap, but like learning how to really make songs like what I couldn't even wrap. I always knew how to pick beats, always knew how to pick beats. There's a lot of artists I won't say their name that they that the you know when we say, oh, they could have been much better, I truth truthfully know it's simply because they didn't know how to pick beats. So they're so dope to the beats. We like this, and so I always tell everybody what well we're representing. I was

I was gonna let you know, I really I was on that album, and I never seen the Spanish dude do that.

So I knew Spanish kids all over America we're gonna be like, holy shit, we finally got one as your thorough with a half moon. Fifty dudes behind them guns in the video gold Medallion's rolex. They ain't seeing motherfucker like me a trapper on the screen her motherfucker. You gotta float y'all. He wasn't playing.

Well. It just rapped.

You know.

People were mad at me a long time at the Rucker because I said.

Never liked balls. So the hell it was just a bar. It was like even Roy Jones was forced to lean back.

I love Roy Jones.

It was just a bar. It was just rap.

You know.

I just rapped, So it was a bar. It was a low hanging fruit. I think since then, I've been more careful about the bars. Roy Jones almost came and fucked me up, you know what I'm saying. So I had to calm down. You know what I'm saying. I ain't want that year though, crrackt. You know, you know we showed you Yankee Stadium. You know we got we got it. You know what I'm saying. We got hits, we got underground. You know, I forget all my shit.

Who know who the fuck do you think you're talking to? Then I go into MOTHERFUCKINGO Joe.

Then I go into John Blaze, I go on to my lifestyle, go by that, and they're like, you can in front on me, bro can't. I got a whole fucking I got a hold, and they feel stupid. Somebody really hates me. This underground, this mad that I'm commercially successful. There in they're like, and then the endemy comes on. Enough's enough fed around shot and they're like and they man's just banging on them like, Yo, it's crack, grad, it's crack Peop.

Don't realize that like a lot of the that jay Z was underground, NAS was underground, Fat Joe was underground, Like we saw he was underground.

He was underground, you know, like you were.

Underground them seeds and you guys became superstars.

That was for the natural transition.

You know, we ain't just go. It's almost like we forced Like you said, Don Cartageing, I forced myself to still be underground. After the Big Punch success, I could have easily started making Botequa Moana, and I was just like, nah, I'm still going.

Mop you know what I'm saying. We're still gonna kill your moms.

You know what we're gonna do.

You know, fuck that, how about some hardcourt you know what I'm saying.

But we still are, you know.

And then once Pun died, you know, I knew the difference between the money. You know, flow Joe.

I was getting five hundred dollars a show I was doing every Saturday. That was doing three shows New York, Connecticut, the Bronx, then DC Vegia the same. You know, that was how I was making the dollar. You know what I'm saying, We wasn't making no real money. And so you know, once Pun died it and we started seeing fifty thousand this show wold shit like that, I was like, oh, I gotta make it hit. Right.

But even in addition to having pun in your corn, you always had mail on your side. You guys grew up together, right high.

School, went to high school. I met Joe in ninth grade.

Ninth grade we was.

In music class together and homeroom.

We had an interesting home room.

Yeah, we definitely we had a wild home mom.

Well, what's so interesting about it was just.

Probably eighty every gangster and lunatic in the world just happened to be in the same future drug.

Lord home everybody, everybody holding court in jail as we speak as people just coming home now with ninth grade.

Literally people coming home now. Mayor hip hop times Run Deep two used to own the club out here in New York.

City, right, I was. I had a piece of Club Essos in nineteen ninety six. Ye club Essos. Yeah, I had Maria Davis man one days when when she did the stop the membory, they was Who's smoking weed? And hear the biggie line? I mean now the jay Z thing from fourth was the fourth fourth What song is that? Twenty two two? Yeah, twenty two twos and Maria Davis thing.

I had it with twenty twenty two twos do add up to four four fourth.

I got that, you know, we had we had, we had Maria Davis Man Wednesdays, I seen one twelve performer s OS first. I was probably one of the last ones that have Kim and Foxy Brown on stage together, you know, with Queen Latifa. You know what I'm saying, Like you know, it was amazing. It was amazing, amazing, amazing, amazing place I've seen it all. Like every every artist broke through is.

Like the most interesting man in the hire shop. He owned like there's nothing he can't do. Just today he did an interview for some sneakers and I'd be forgetting my brother's ship.

He was busting out joints to that.

I said, Damn, this motherfucker got it.

I did an interview today with NBC for sneakers, call it into the fifty years of hip Hop. So I brought out like Wu Tang Dunks and Drakes Drake's Eleven's. I brought out the Terror Squad air Force, you know, jay Z justin Timberlake, legends of summer, like shoes that haven't been seen in one hundred years and shoes obtainable. Brought him out the day and made a little movie for NBC today.

It was dope.

So did you did you book the talent that comes to your club?

At No, No, it was all promot. It was all promoted. I even had Salabatello from the Fever used to do my Saturday nights like I had. I had a hip hop Wednesday, I had a house music Sunday Saturday I had. I had everything left over from the tunnel on Sundays, like whatever was left over there couldn't get into the tunnel with ways and essoles on a Sunday. I mean it was. It was a great, great run, right.

I beat up every I beat up every promoter, every bouncer, bouncer, bouncers. We was giving them though business. I got a funny story when I met my wife, right when we met my wife, I met in Miami, right and she came back. She's really from Queens. So we went out the first time ever. Well for I had no money. You know, I was just struggling about to come out right a little bit before a flow joke. And it's so, you know, friends already looked at her, like this beautiful girl, what

He's popped, like right, so they had a problem with me.

Right, Well, you know they only wrapped to all the big drug dealers in Queens. You know, they had little diamonds and shit. So the one day they meet me, we go to a club in Manhattan, right, so they like, we going to club. So I'm with all girlfriends, is just be. We pull up to the club and they tell, they tell me, and they tell they said, oh, he can't.

Come in here.

Right with the first date I ever had. Well friends, and they was like, these guys tore down the whole fucking club. Like these guys broke every musical equipment this in the here, like just last week, you're not coming in here.

She kept the real with me and left with me.

Her friends was so pissed at but uh, yeah, you know we you know, I have a zero tolerance, a zero.

I will not let a human being disrespect me without.

Handling it. That's just been my own entire life. So to be honest with you, somebody in human form that has disrespected me, they caught it every single time, and they know it. And so somebody's hallucinating line telling you stories. They're liars. Because we give it. Yeah, we gave it to everybody in the planet Earth. You know what I'm saying. So it's like, you know, we have I have zero zero zero is like a dictative ship, like a tyrant,

So, man, how did you even get the name?

Man?

Is it did Joe to get that to you?

No?

No, that was just from that was just from he's the mayor, the mayor.

I was over.

So I grew up in Michaelangelo Houses. My grandmother lived in Patterson Projects, my aunt lived in Melrose. All these places hated each other. Then I'll go to Hallam and hang out on und forty of on hun thirty nine. Shoot my man Reggie White, and everybody was like, yo, we can't stand each other with mayors on this block, mayor's on that block, man's with this one, man's with that one, still like that and right, And my man Reggie White was like from hallm was like, yo, you're

Who's the mayor or the president when it comes to these sneakers, because again, you know.

You for that. We got it.

I'm saying it now. Joey got it. I said that. Don't say that.

He's on the Mount Rushmore. Clark Can't is definitely on the Mount Rushmore. I'm squeezing in there in the side on the right corner.

This guy, he's he's Joey cap right now, who's the guy there?

Is you?

Clark Can't. I'm in the corner. Who's this guy?

And we know who it is?

I was give it to Greg Street, Greg Street, I was give it to you. It's the most diverse collection I've ever seen in my life.

Perfect pretty good. No, that's a real good, pretty good.

I'm with that.

You know, you know how you open up your pantry and this he got a big house and Mary Otta Georgia, and you open up your pantry, you expect to see a lot of cupcakes and candies and sugar. Greg Street got sneakers and sneakers. I'm not lying. I swear you got a wife, right yeah, you got Yeah, he's he's with you. He just it just doesn't exist. The guy Greg is weird. Greg has a pull in his backyard for thirty years. It's never no water in it, Like in the summertime he's no water. He doesn't know, he

Documentary on Biz Marquee the other night, how was it? And it's really great. He is really sad, you know Biz. You know, I really love Biz Marky.

It was. It hurt me a lot, you know, to see what he went through his final year. You know how much I never knew that he grew up with Kim.

I never knew, uh, you know, they was in there that I bugged me out, and I was like, yo, because Rock Kim's talking like the mayor, like you know.

He's all in the documentary.

Like you know, I remember when this first bang on the table, when Junior high and I started freestyling. I'm like, Yo, these guys go up crazy. I never knew that Ferris would be that he came. So I cornered bizmarcky in real life, it's not in the documentary. And I asked him why, you know, I asked him why he embraced me, because before I ever was on Ever had a deal, he used to pull up in my projects, hang out with me and this he said, I knew it. I said, what you mean? He said, Joe, I knew you was

Wow, you know recipes bizmarcking man.

Wow, And so you know, you know they you know, it's beautiful to see that hip hop was so celebrated for the fiftieth birthday. We got to keep it going. Fifty first birthday. A lot of people ate that haven't been eating in the loan had these opportunities this year that they had, Thank god, you know what I mean. And so it's so important that we continue to make

You wouldn't be at the White House. Now I'm going next week, get back to the white hose.

I'm my luck.

Call on me up Man's fifty if hip hop? But she didn't call me.

A right hand woman called me and said, Joe, we're having an event for hip hop fifty would you like to come? And very rare, does my wife and my daughter ever like to hang out with me? And they said we're going, So they're in.

Wasn't like going there the first time, as you know a guy from the Bronx.

Do you know Joey Krack? Y'all y'all still don't know Joey cra y'all think you'll read the book Joey Krack, the type of ship he had to do.

You ever seen this movie? What's that movie they did in India?

The movie they didn't no man tractable?

What extraction extraction?

You ever seen extraction extraction one and extraction one? Extraction one? Right, it's about to me. The whole movie is about. Yeah, he's a he's going to get a a kid that was kidding at but you know who Joe Krack was in that movie, the Lily Wendyan kid that wanted to be down with the fucking with the drug lord so bad he wanted them to cut his finger.

He kept coming at this killer like he just I gotta impress him. I gotta let him know hone. You know I'm not gonna be broke my whole life?

That was me.

You know, Joe krat was like, bro I don't know what the fuck I wouldn't have done to get on now. You know, when I'm fourteen years old, every drug kingpin in Bronx and Harlem. They knew who Joey krat was is fourteen. Imagine now I wouldn't know who's fourteen. They knew this nigga was coming.

Boy George, they knew it.

They knew he was coming. They was like, Yo, he is coming. This kid is coming, like he's not gonna stop to you know. Thank God for hip hop, you know. And then then with all that, I'm in the White House to be kidding, but I'm representing patients. So power to the patients. We passed the lord here in New York City for the first time ever in New York City history, where the hospital's gotta be transparent and tell you what you gotta pay. So it's all a gim me.

Today.

We got ten schedule one is paying one patient. He may be white. He's paying one thousand dollars. Come the next patients paying three thousand. The next patient is paying five hundred, The next patient is paying ten thousand. They charge you whatever the fuck they want. And so people are over one hundred million Americans of bankrupt you to health health that house can't pay them bills. And when you broke, what happened you damn sure ain't keeping keeping

Yo, give me the gun, let me hold it.

I'll give it back.

I have to pay they So you change laws here, correct?

Yeah?

We did, and we going to continue last year.

You know our Muslim African brothers and sisters in the Bronx. They had the fire that killed the seventeen people. We raised over two million. Yep. You know that's what we're here for. You know what I'm saying. These people in the Bronx, man, they let me live. They could have killed me easily, you know what I mean.

They let me live.

So I have a silent contract with them that whenever something goes wrong, Joe Krat's gonna be there.

You know.

And so that's that's how we live our life, you know what I'm saying.

And we're proud of it. Absolutely. When we get you back in that studio and what's what's this voodoo thing you are?

Voodoo record that shave, that shave, you know a little.

Voice and you know, you know, God there I let my voice to people sometimes, you know, you know, I gotta work, you know, hell, I gotta work. It's a fly song, voodoo You into that type of you know, it's nice, you know what I'm saying. She's a good person. Uh And so right now, in order for me to make music with anybody is pretty much I gotta love you, you know what I mean, Like five mics, I got a song with five mics.

I did a song with a die Pesto thrilling Ems.

Oh no, I got sanctioned, chanking, I got sanction sanctioned because I don't really work like that no more with music, you know what I'm saying. So you know, I knew Nems wanted me to get on his album. You know, I went on BT and called him the new fat Joke, So he want me on his album. But then I was playing, and then I start getting these texas. You know, he signed a Roseenberg the Eminem You know, I owe him too many favorites. When that text comes come through, I'm like say no more, no.

More, you know, you know, fiftieth anniversary.

Oh, Melly Mail says some ship about Eminem, right, and I'm gonna tell you something here, which I do hope nobody takes the wrong way. But I see him in the nick game like a day later, and Melly Mill's my o G like he's the guy who I look up to our worship, and I.

Said, down your white go after the white boy man. I said, fiftieth fan aniversary, this is the time to run it up when you're trying to block your blessings, like you know, because because I learned the hallway.

You know, I never complained and I never even said it publicly. Well, you know, I have beef for fifty cent and jay Z, the two most two most fucking powerful dudes in the world, And so Reebok was gonna give me a sneaker there, and they, oh, you have to beef with jay Z and fifty Jordan's too, right, Jordan too. We can't give you the deal all that. You know, you know how much money I was ship

Bless you smart.

You literally said something to me, Yeah, because you know.

Pull hit me up and say, Yo, we really need you on that Namu, I said, he signed, He said, yeah, I said, no problem, I'll be in the studio tonight. How do you want it hardcore?

Dan?

What do you want to party? Tell him? I came through you know, I owe Eminem so many favors, like I have used my relationship with this guy to oblivion. You hear me, No, I swear to God. One of that Lean Back remix he was on the Lord above the man. He gave me the sneakers before everybody in the world. That man do anything. You know, he's a beauty. You know.

He trying to talk me out of retirement. I know you're gonna say, Joey capped.

It was in my mother's house, shirt off, topless, my phone, rings and number I one note.

Thank god I picked it up, Zeminem.

He starts trying to convince me for a whole hour, don't leave us. He almost was depressed that I was leaving our era.

Leave us.

You still got he said. I purposely start listening to all your music.

To see if maybe you should retire.

No way, got it? Stay in there.

Yeah, God, you know he's a god.

Eminem's a god. I don't give a fuck who what you think?

He's a god? You know what I'm saying.

Somebody shifted the whole algorithms when he came next. I remember me and Big Pun. Big Pun was the first LATO to sell two million records. Solo we nominated for a Grammy, and the night before we go to the Grammys, we are waiting online in l A and Tower Records for the Fucking Eminem album Online Online nominated for the nominated for Grammy. Me and Big pun online to get that motherfucking Eminem album.

Wow, you tell me he ain't a rap God, you understand what I'm saying.

So it's like, you know, you know, I respect everybody who put their contributions to this game. Milk is chilling. You can't go milk chilling is chilling? What more can I say? All Right, let's do Let's play this game. Because say a song that you will always forgether, you will always remember a song lyrics to something that you will always.

Busters used this last game, you wasn't.

There the same thing. That wasn't.

A line that kind of like you remember where you were, Like if it came on right now, you would have to say, oh, you said the other one for me to.

He said, I'm like skin, I live in Queens, not because you're here, but lyricly, it's funny that you're here though, because my daughter, she's ten years old, she loves tongue twisters. So I let her play twins, you know, and she loves that part, and she's she gets she's getting the hang of it, but she loves that part.

So that shout out.

Busy Signal Bigsie Signal is a Jamaican artist, king of tongue twisters, fucking phenomenon. When you see him rap, you Like one day I heard him freestyle, I was like dumbed doubt. Shout out the common shout out. They had a guy out there named Juice. They used to free style for Chicago. Chicago has some mean artists. Shout out the whole movement over there in l a far side. I got five on almost beat him up. One of the guys.

Your mouth, one of them, the light skinned one.

He kept staring at my wife man, and I had to tell him, like, yo, bro, you want to get beat up or something? What's going on here? Man? Fuck wrong with you? Man? You had to do with other fucking this other West Coast. It's a tough time for you with the West Coast. You know, I'm the only trap but that physically got it on with the West Coast, the only East Coast rapper who we don't talk about it because you know it ain't cool, but I got it on. That's what we had.

Fact when we had a Snoop Dogg on a couple of years ago, when they had a summer with Farrakahns, I was this. He said that it was quiet and the fact Joe raised up and said, we fucking loved you.

How can you do this?

Done the fact and he was like, everyone was like, oh my gosh, because we hip hop.

You know what I mean.

I don't give a fuck where are you from.

I fuck with the goodie mob, I fuck with out casts, fuck with Luke, I fuck. Hip hop is a fucking religion. It's a culture, and so people play divide and conquer, people play we don't really love each other. We fucking love each other. I was crying that Prodigy's funeral, like, I was all embarrassed that I was crying in front of the whole hip hop game. You know, when I walked in proudly these funeral, they had a band plane shook ones and so if hip hop is a pyramid, right,

There's no Fat Joe. There's no Heavy Davy D credit Heavy D.

There's no Fat Joe. If there's no Heavy D. To this day, when I think I'm flying, I see pictures of Heavy D thirty years ago.

In the water.

Same shit. No man had that. The overweight lovers in the house, the house, Oh you know what I mean, Fat people feel like dancing? What was flying? Yet I never I never forget the time I seen him in the picture with me a long hold in her hand.

Fat dudes came up. Fat boys.

Every single block party, every jam that I ever want you in the Bronx started with fat fat fat boy boy boy boys. That's how they started. It was always the first record, and you heard the ricochet off the walls.

Fat fat, fat boy boy boy boys.

Now I don't care what you was doing, playing baseball, tag football, whatever, you just go over there. And so, uh, you know, just everybody who paved the way. But really that movement over there too, because I really started with she keeps on and started with us. The man. I wish I was a little bit tall, wish I was a ball, wish I was any girl. Yo, I was with them Classic ninety two, ninety three. You know, we was all trying to come up absolutely you know, so

Yeah, last time he was on the podcast, were remmy right before All the Way Up really came out. Remember beat I had saw you do it a snippet of it a show, and beat I was like, you fat, you'll got this record that's not that you could be smashed a smash and you took it off if you took it, juke it offline.

He took it off YouTube.

And then you put the record out and we said, I think the day Flex was gonna play it, that's when you were sitting with it.

The only fear took off that we hadn't had a hit in a wild And it's true they stalled. All the Way Up should have automatically being number one, But some DJs you know, this ship is a real uh.

Monkey see monkey do game.

Political not just political.

It's like, are you gonna go in in the on this trip?

It sounds like a hit, but we're playing frickety Dickey Dickey, you know what I'm saying.

And they're a little old.

Well fact, Joe is REMI was only like thirty four whatever, thirty th Still it was.

It was a smash. It was no different than a lean Back.

But you had some people that were waiting for the cold sign to let it go, go go, you know, lean Back came out. They told me a story. Jeezy just told me a story, he said, Yo, I was, I knew the story, but he said. I was in can Coon when lean Back came out.

The whole B M F.

And DJ S and S played lean Back for four hours straight. No other song, he said, no other song, he said, it was just lean Back, lean Back, lean Back.

He said.

People kept paying them to play it. It was that day. Now.

The mutual experience to that was I was in Miami and they wouldn't stop playing it back to back to back to back. It was a Memorial weekend.

They just kept playing and we used to drop all our records Memorial Weekend because all the DJs is out, they can pay off the barbecues whatever. So so all the way Up should have been the same thing. Well, Frip, it was that, you know what I'm saying, But because I was a little older, I ain't have a hit in like five years. It was like, let me see what you do.

Let me see what you do, Let me see what you do. And then eventually you know, to charge man, We're still all the way.

Up, man, but after real you fearly have two anthems that are part of the history that it's undeniable.

Drake facetimed me three times trying to get on all the Way Up three times middle of the night. Send me the instrumental, Send me the instrumental, Send me the instrumental.

I wish I would have got Drake on it.

But the fact of all the history of me and jay Z, I was like, you gotta be just me and jay Z, I said, because anybody who really knows you know, I've been doing this for hip hop and my whole life. I gave my life to hip hop for real, for me. So I was like, anybody who truly understands this is the moment. It ain't just gonna be a posse cut and it ain't gonna be you know. And this is the last time Drake ever asked me to do it all. But nah, man, no gotta forgive me.

So the fact we had that, it was right time. I said, fuck that, let's get the game something they never thought they would get.

What was y'all laughing at at the Beyonce show Man some beautiful photos right there?

You know, Fat Joe talk so much shit.

I don't know where I was at with that.

But you also joke about how much you how much you could have done back then.

And I lost maybe one hundred million, not fucking with jay Z because you know, you know, just being stubborn.

How about I'll tell you what we was laughing about. The man was telling me.

That he wished we would have been brothers since day one and we would have been cool with each other since day one.

And then he told me about a mutual friend.

They used to always try to tell him, Yo, Joe's the coolest guy in the world, this and that, and I'm like, Yo, meanwhile, I'm thinking the friend he's telling it's an asshole. And then we started laughing about it. I said, the whole time, I thought it was a fuck man, you know, And then we started laughing, like, meanwhile, he was a good dude, telling them, Yo, Joe's a good dude man like you would.

Love that Joe. They used to tell me the same thing about fifty cent. They used to tell me.

The same thing, very very in between us and there, we had a couple of people in there that was like, YO, telling me to say, you will love them.

I'm like, nah, I love it. They tell fifty you will love them, Joe, crap, you will love them?

Na. Fuck.

You know, we stubborn, you know, New York's real stubborn man.

But life's been good with Rock Nation on. Life is amazing for me. Shut out desiret Perez. You know, I don't know where I would be without her, you know what I'm saying. So, uh, you know family, I love them, you know what I'm saying. And I'm honored to be uh family with them. You know what I'm saying to me. It ain't even about man, I'll never get off rock Nation. Wow. Like it's like, you know, we family. You know what I'm saying. That's what it is. And so it's just honor.

Little bit too late. You know what I'm saying, not saying I'm not up. I'm up all the way. I'm all the way.

I'm up. Don't get it fucked up. I'm up, boy in every state. Trust me, I'm good at every state.

Ship.

Yeah, we ain't playing we blessed man. God is great, man. I want to give all the glory to God. God is great. I want to get a glory for beat out for bringing you here.

Man, last minute, man, everybody else you can't get fat Joe on this short notice like this just be dot care.

He's a trouble maker on Instagram, keep him off fit. No, no, it's a terrible man. What No, No, he's evil, borderline evil on Instagram. But I go on my lives, I'm talking about somebody. He be like, he's I'm saying it for you.

I'm like, you.

Know, I'm easily I'm easily manipulated. I catch myself like starting the disc. I'm like, no, no, no, do stay au.

Be that. I'm not fucking with you right now.

No trash got him out of here, just saying this.

The girl say read or something.

I was like, we're not gonna say, we're not gonna say any names, but you know, I'm just gonna say for you, crack, that's.

All sexy wrap my girl ski you.

You go.

We got to encourage it. We gotta encourage the youth. That's what it is. She said, my pussy pain, my movie hold around. You know, my daughter, I've said what.

Swearing God I said, I said what I don't know said, I don't play that ship like you could get away with it. I've never told my my daughter no, I've never not given h like she's first Prince of bel Air, like she came with that ship minny ping, my dear.

I said, whoa, well, we are not having that shite.

No, no, oh, that's hip hop. No, not for you, not for you. And I made it a conscious effort growing up to not censor my kids. I let him hear the curses since they was six years old, eight years old. My son's my daughter, like I couldn't be a hypocrite, you know, he had to be able to listen to whether they could, she could listen to Sexy Red.

Just don't tell your father my this is this and my booty host.

No, no, no that we're not doing that. No, we're not going theory for nothing. You know what I'm saying. I will fucking wrap you and aluminum for you right now. Thank you.

What would you like to what would you like to see in the future hip hop?

Yo? Man? I want.

I want less violence.

I want everybody to think equity, think ownership, make more money than us, make us happy, make us proud, make moves new moves.

Unity in hip hop.

It's very important to us because when I look at a young brother or young sister that's successful, really successful with hip hop. I see one hundred jobs. I see one hundred families eating Thanksgiving because of the kid, and so that's what I want for them. More bosses, you know, more bosses, more takeover Hollywood. There's nothing you can't do. You know, anything's possible. And that's what hip hop has

How about you man?

Definitely less violence. I want artists that are considered older to keep making music because older fans, older fans grow. If you didn't see the demographic and Yankee Stadium, which was fifteen to sixty, because that's what was in there, that's what was in there. I want artists to keep making music even though they're labeled this because you still have fans. We still enjoy the music, and along with enjoying everything young, we still enjoy everything the next level up.

Also, be very careful out there, all the artists out there, be very careful out there, because you in the light, you are a target. There is no way around it. Stay focused, Stay away from that rico, stay away from that.

We go only Puerto Rico. The only Rico you need to know is Porto Rico.

Don't have a vacation.

Nah that ship Nah, that shit real out there.

That's a bar you might hear next. It's poco.

Stay away. You are talking.

If you ever was paranoid, if you ever thought people were watching you, they are. You can't.

I can't do shit, okay, fat Joe, And I'm an old school right. I walk out of a hotel. True story, pick of time. Six in the morning, six in the morning. I looked to the right.

Bam, somebody through the window got the camera. I walked to get in the car.

Bam.

Somebody at the bus stop got the camera. I walk in the thing.

Bam, they got the drivers. Like this, yo, I got.

Fetch You're done. You're done.

If you don't see these cameras all over, like, you gotta be crazy. You're not getting away with a crime. You're just not getting away with a crime. Your phone towers, they know where you're at. Like, don't be dumb out here. If your dream was I grew up poor, I have a dream of being successful, buying my mother a house. When you do become successful, why play that game. There's something very interesting. Jeez told me when the other day.

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