Kawan KP Prather

on the do it all? I mean, I've seen this man everywhere being responsible for something, making sure that something went down the way it was supposed to the right way. Kawan KP breakthrough. That was thank you, thank you, um first of all, thank you, welcome, appreciate your love. And yeah, we don't take this lightly, man. We we we we are observing people. And we see that those braids, okay,

those are fresh, those are fresh. That that that that when you want braids like that, you know what I'm saying, that's gonna cost you a little something. Yeah, yeah, it's gonna cost you some time and somebody, yeah, or some good relationships. You know what, you know what, because that is exactly what and who you are brother. You are walking representation of great relationships. Man. I appreciate that. Thank you.

And that's something that's I don't always know that very tough to attain in this business, is to really have great relationships. Everybody knows each other in some way. Everybody don't everybody can't have everyone just pick up that phone call. I'm grateful and blessed with good intentions when you call me, I pick up. I picked up my phone call with

good intentions. People's cracking down. Well, you know, I appreciate that because that's the point, like I want to call with good intentions or with something that's either mutually beneficial for us or just or I'm calling and really check on you and the name to go with it, good credit to go along with it. Thank you again. What I'm saying, we know a lot of guys. You know, I didn't know how to do the wiggles, but every

everything around your name, it's solid. Man. I'm grateful. Yeah, and so we're we're we had those do were those guys trying to follow in that same space to make sure that even if it's the long way, we're just going to do it the right way. The long way. I mean, it's absolutely the long way, but it's you learn more that way, like the long you know, Like I like my career the way it is. It's like I've been in it long enough to learn a lot

almost generationally. That's a part for me. Let's take a journey on you getting to this place where you are now where you know, I mean some sometimes we can flex, sometimes we can floss. Where everything's v I p. Is that where the bubbles come. I heard about just your intro into this space, um into the music space. Okay, so two ways. Well, day one. Day one is watching my mom and her aunt and my aunts get ready for like to go out to the club and ship, and like I get to play records and I just

remember putting on a Need a Need Award play. Yeah, I would just be shout out on five six. I don't know, but but I remember seeing this record with just like palm tree on it, and I put it on. It was ringing my bell and I saw them lose their ship and I'm like, okay, something to this like and I played some more ship and they would you know, it's almost like they were late for the club a little bit and in my head as a as a kid, I'm like this made my mom happy, Like I like this,

I like this feeling. So it was like, you know, I saw music do that. I didn't know I was gonna be a DJ and no ship. But I was at the airport hustling, like you know, the little cards, like I told the story something else, but the carts at the airport. Like back when I was when I was eleven, there was an there's an arcade in Hartsville, and what we would do is go take these cards back. You put them back in the stall came out. So we were running around and just trapped all day and

then go end up at the arcade. I'm sitting there playing the game. Dude comes in play and starts playing like he had some jury that would seem odd. Asked him about it. He said, yes, ll cool J, what's up short? He cannot play this game with you. You know. It was like weird, right, But at the time, he had to be sixteen, So he's a kid too at the time who had to be sixteen. I think it

got cracking family like fifteen yeah. So yeah, so it's like I'm just playing a video game with an older kid, but then he said somebody but he got jewels, got jewelry and the name and um, and I'm like, how you get that? And he was like, yeah, I'm here doing the show and he's in my head. The voice is still your shorty. Um, you know it's still yeah, sure you're doing the show here and you know, and

it's it's that. But he was doing to show at this club called the Phoenix, and he back then you didn't have to go through t s A. So he took me back to see like his DJ and the people who with him, like the Beastie Boys and ship and it was like weird, but at the same time it was like one of those these kids are just going places because they were all kids. They weren't so are away in age for me, but it was like it was interesting and then that again. Then that Christmas,

my mom got me turntables and I got two. Started. Yeah, I started doing the high school parties, talent shows, doing mixtapes for like dance groups, you know, like just so they can perform to like so when it broke down into moments and love like on Beaten like, so I'll make show tapes and how old are you at this point. Yeah, I want to go back to something. Um is there. There's an arcade and it used to be used to be Yeah, you're looking for it right now, take right now,

because I'm always in that airport, always connected. Man, listen now, it used to be there, but you know, then things got dangerous in Atlanta, so you know you couldn't have airport video games. But he come up missing. Yeah, so it's your DJ, and you're going mix tape, have before mix tapes? Well you know, I don't even want to call it mix tape. I will make tapes for a couple of people, like you know, because in eighth grade

I came up on Luke Scott Walker. So I was trapping like the dirty tapes I had too short because you can't just get those. They don't understand. You just couldn't get the freaky tails. You couldn't get me like your ship. Yeah, because they had they had that that sticker on it. They hadsory sticker. I was a church so don't know about Hey we also fun so I know about it. I know of it. Learned later in life.

Just used to use the words that they changed. I sang, I sang all the cleans and all my friends and school, Like, that's not how that got it all. Like the Lord's version, I knew every name that too Short said on Freaky Tails, you probably knew someone man, right, it was so so I was doing you hustling, You're hustling the dirty types. Yeah, absolutely, and and and you know, and then I ran into um a friend of mines, well not even at the time,

like I was DJ and the Talent show. This dude comes up and it's like, yo, my brother nam wrapped. They're looking for a DJ. It was Big Recent Mellow. Well at the time it was my cousin. It was my homeboy Corey, but we called called each other cousins. Um. So Corey's brother was dating Tien t Boss from TLC, So all of us ended up all being cool. Yeah,

everybody home me. So which fast forward, That's how my group Parental Advisory we got signed at the Baby Baby Baby video shoot audition because what yeah, we got signed because Tian was like, come down to our video shoot, pebbles down here, we're doing the audition, bring your bring your equipment and ship. So I picked up Recent Mellow. I had this little white trans am put on my

ship in. We got down to the rehearsal spot and I brought my ship into the rehearsal spot like I'm setting up and she's like whoa, yeah, what do you do with pebbles from the base. She's like, whoa, what's up? I'm like Tian said, and she was like, well, before a matter of fact, you're gonna be in a video. You're gonna be Chili's boyfriend. And I'm like what And she was like, well, if you want to use my time,

I'm auditioning to people for a video. And so I ended up being in the video because of that, but she also gave us a deal after we performed. Damn, I gotta go back and look at that video that all three of us have been video homes. Video You was a video hole too. No no, no, no, don't jump out. He should call for me, TLC for him and SHARRISA for you. Don't try to get out of this brother with us. Welcome too. Shout out to Brice who my guy. Bryce. I had to sneak in on Bryce.

He wasn't doing the right thing. Yeah, but he don want convinced me to do the Keysha video. Yes, Okay, this is that one of those like what do you call it Kevin Baking moments? Right? So Bryce was the homie and I ended up getting face too right to one of his beats. That's how you're making me high? I came out no way, what yeah, yeah, this is this is this is how it goes. The relationships. Wow.

And he beat them like yo, this your hard and I was, and you know, I was like, it'd be crazy if Tony Braxton was on this ship and the versus history, remember like it was yesterday, and that's what you call hand on. Yeah, that's that's that's what you call han on. So y'all get the deal. You know, we get a deal. So y'all signed face signed. We signed a little face first, we signed to a pebbletone the face. So we're actually the first rep REP group to get signed. But our crew was a Dungeon family,

so I'm like, we got our own producers. And because at the time they were like you should work with KG from by Nature, um, like you know New York. He was having his run to he was him and Dave dropped a load on him like going in and but I was like, now we got our folks Meanwhile, they organized North's had met he was in l A before through TLSE. They did a remix for what About Your Friends? They have been trying to get down but it just hadn't happened yet. But we got an idea,

were like, these are producers. So they did our first album. And what I learned was I was doing and R then because l A was like, yo, um you telling us who's gonna producer our record? I was learning that these opinions people get paid for that ship So you know, we we we did our first album, We did a couple. We did like three albums. But on the road when we would go out, I'd be meeting people like like q Tip or Quess Love or like we were on the road with the Roots and I meet q Tip.

We get him and Dilla to do a remix for Elevators because I'm like l A, these try called crest producers and hot sets like it's like and I didn't. I wasn't working then. I was just like yeo, I met. I just met these guys and they do that too. They want to produce. That's the other part and how the labels work. People don't understand that l A read who is the head of the label. He's not going to be on the road every day, but he's not

going to know who the new young dude is. Someone has to introduce that, and you can get paid for that, especially if you do it with consistency and taste. I think that's where me and l A clicked. It's like I was, I'm am in Atlanta, dude, like that's who I am, but I understood like outside of like just the area because I was a DJ, So I you know, I knew what New York hip hop founded, Like I knew what Michael Jackson sounds like. I know what these

records do in a place. I know what Stevie Wonder does if you play you know as or another star, Like, I know what these moments look like. So I'm always kind of looking for those moments with records and artists who can deliver that. So l A me and him just click because Pebbles was like, yo, y'all need to connect, like really, Pebbles put me in it, like across the board, Wow,

shout out to the band. Yeah, because I think that I've always felt like DJs like or even like the dopest producers just because of their the amount of information that they understand, and you musically instant either gratification or you know, you got to change the record immediately, you know what's going to see it Like when you see like real time, in real time, when people are dancing and then they stopped, that's your fault because you played

something that didn't keep the energy. So it's like it makes you pay attention to what causes their energy, like which sounds feel away, you know, and I think that you know, yeah, that's my um. I don't know. I don't know, like the secret sauce, but that's sauce. Yeah, So like I get to like, it's why I like DJ and Steel because I'm like, you can't tell me this ship is jam and when I saw it not work right, Like I don't care about what your streams

look like. I know what it looks like when people when it when it hits people like and that's more important because I'm like the organic field, Yeah, the actual because people will people will actually raise you up. Yeah, that's the foundation you need. The programming side of it, the number side of it is just whatever. But if you can build a swell of a good amount of people organically, that's something completely different. Yeah, that's what you get paid for it. Like that's I mean, that's when

you get paid. You can be talented. But if you're going talented with no proof that someone cares, you know, it's like then it's a gamble. But when you go in and even when it's something small at a time, like when it's like consistently selling out two hundred people in a in a club, right, if you can do that ship for two three months, that means some of those people are coming back. That means they're affected by you.

So if you put more on, it's like if you know, if you whip the thing on up just a little bit more, Yeah, it's like just keep and keep whipping, and it's like and that's that's like when it's you know, no punt attend, that's when it's dope. You know, it's like it's it's actually affects people in a way that they want it. Like dope sell itself for sure. Like it ain't a lot of commercials for no Dope. I haven't seen anything, you know, I've seen Billboard now and

maybe setting out. I've seen down with dope like they had to do campaigns against dope again, which goes into our music and ship too. Though it's like you can watch when it's when it's dope, there's always a campaign against it on some level where it's like this alternative to it, like this version of it. So what makes you transition? I mean, obviously I know that it's being identified, it's being identified early, But what makes you say, you

know what? I like the rap group thing. I like being on a road, but you know what, I want to make records? Well, two things, right, I was learning how to make records and our group got signed to DreamWorks. Um so after the face, after the face, So after the face, Pebbles took us to m c A. Because she got a situation the m c A. Gerald Busbey. Oh my god. We made a record there, did okay, but then her thing somehow another wasn't there anymore, right, So we ended up getting a deal at dream Works

and went wrong with you. Oh man, what two nineteen ninety nine? Maybe nine nine nine? It was like it was ninety nine. Yeah, absolutely, um, because I think the album came out in two thousand, because yeah, I was around, I was, I was heavy at DreamWorks. Then it was a great place to be UM. But but while we were there, I started the mold and and everybody and Michael, Michael Austin would speak to me about the route. And we had a manager. Blue was our manager at Tim

Blue Williams. And but Blue is also managing like he was he was busy. And because I worked with Blue oudcast yeah yeah yeah, yeah yeah, a little group on the outcast UM. So obviously we were not UM. But I would I would form me. I would get these relationships because I would talk because I wanted information. So you know, Michael Austen became like an ally for me, like just to understand what was going on in the in the building. And and eventually they started talking to

me all the time. And so one day I get a call is the group and management and they're like, kype man, we gotta figure out something because like you're talking to them. But I'm like, you know, you're not necessarily the leader of the group. I'm like, okay, fair enough, but like it's working, like we had gotta we just started producing. We had a publishing deal, like I got us a publish deal with hit Co, but like a real check, like we might have got more than some

of the bigger producers in Atlanta at the time. And I was like me being me talking is work. Yeah, I'm like, well, you know what at well, I hear y'all what I'm gonna do. Then l A offer me this gig for real, I'm gonna take this so that way our friendship can be intact. Like I don't want to funk off the energy. That way y'all can run it. And then I went to work. Like you mean you walked away from the group. Yeah, well, I mean I I don't want to make I don't know dramatic like

you take a job. Well, I had an option, like you know, I had the option. And again I was looking at like, bro, we're friends, Like I don't like this, felt this call feels weird. All this is weird. We ain't got to do this. And I took the job. And then I went to work. But I but I went to work like heavy, heavy work. I think I did this remix for this group called a Few good Men, and it was they had this ballot call have have I ever? And it was a ballot, but I had

um met the sixty nine boys on the road. So we did a bass remix of it and that ship went up and I was like, oh, okay, okay. He

was like okay, damn, that was cool. How you do that? Like, but to me, that's something we did in Atlanta, like taking bass records like Miami based records, putting them on the Keith Sweat, you know, just making an ignorant um and asked me to help out Usher after his first album came out, so he was like I was trying to figure it out, and you know, he was like close in a close enough in age for me to understand why why not just taking to Jermaine like domain

good with kids making right and Jermaine's southern that's just from Tennessee. As cool as it is that he got the swag from New York, you kind of can't overshoot swag if you're fourteen, someone can't you get with it. It's just a sexual thing. It's like you, well, then I can't drop my daughter at at that show. So we just made it kind of more age appropriate and with Southern swag like where it's like it's it's a gentleman doing it, so you're there for you make me

wanna yeah all of it? Yeah, yeah, you made me want to like the beginning, you made me well no, now you maybe one of was literally the end like where like I remember having like the night the hook Jermaine wrote the hook, and I called l A. I was like, yo, you should come out of Jamaine's house. It might have been like forty five minutes to an hour away, and he was like what. I'm like, yeah, you should do that for this one. He drove out, came out. I was like, okay, ship, what the rest

of it that? And I was like, oh, ship, you haven't drive off for one song off a hook for a hook? Yeah, ship, But I'm like you maybe like it's like you don't hit it. Like I'm like, I'm losing my ship, just like this might be like two or three o'clock in the morning, by the way, which lets you know him being about to smoke, like all right and gotten this portion drove over the next morning, you know, after you know we finished it and brought

it back, he was like, okay, a man. You know, he wasn't mad for the drive because it was like that, but it was that kind of it was that energy that was happening like in l A was absolutely about

the song. Smoke. That was a game changer. But that's that's also while we're so adamant about creators also being owners and label heads, because a guy who has never created anything like that of his own, he don't understand that at two or three in the morning, that moment, especially even if he's just coming to Cheerley, what the young fellas is doing just to keep him going understand how to Chile and understanding how to Cheerley to not getting the way of that, not getting away or discourage

something that might be different, because I think that's where a lot of it happens, is like the fear of different. Like being in Atlanta, we didn't necessarily have to worry about it because we didn't have people on our next about what this was because no one knew yet nobody knew what it was, so we were blessed in that way. That's that's just an amazing feeling to have that and

to be around creatives. Like I said, you know, yes we have as creative as we have our things that ain't always up to part you know what I mean, because we're creative. Yeah, And and what's what's right right? Like who's to say what's the right way to do anything, Like in my head, like I don't know what the first person who said timberland ship was dope, but I

can imagine if a lot of people say that's retarded. No, in talking to Timberland, him being him being met with resistance about the pony song from you know, a guy who's the godfather to me, Davante, Like I don't know about all that that, it's cool, but like imagine that conversation, right, yeah, from the guy who did crap, like because that could

be the gospel, all that that within itself. If DeVante said to me, that ain't the way I would burn everything down down, I burn everything down, all of it. DeVante said no, he said it wasn't it was We're going to go another way. Did he say no? He didn't the world He didn't say yes, this is word that means though, And for Timberland to stand on that and just say, I don't know, I think this is

I like it. I like it. But Timberland also as a DJ again absolutely so his perspective in beatmaking, it's about keeping that happening and the space that he creates it with. Like I used to watch people try to imitate. Yeah, I used to do it definitely. And the one thing, you know, I went to something for the people immediately, Like people didn't realize how he used space. It's not just the drums, it's the space because she's produced. There's

some spooky ship happening in some of themselves. Yeah, like it's suspense and he's giving it all room. But you know I'm saying being different, Like you spoke about that Atlanta. Nobody knew what that was, what you guys were doing down there. We were just like because I was down in Atlanta, and you know what I'm saying, messing with messing with Noontime, you know what I'm saying. So I would always be in the lab with shout out the Noontime Brothers one thousand percent. Kid, what's up? We got

Arrest of the Chris Chris Hicks one. Like Noontime like noon Time showed us out of hustle. Like what I will say is we learned how to do music from l A and Pebble's. But I swear I used to watch no One Time'm like, oh they are getting money over there, man, but they'll figured out how to trap off music in a way that it's like we got rooms full of we got producers that they were doing motown ship like like it was. It was a factory. Like you get down there's ten b Cox and Jone.

It's like the people who would be there were really amazing, like jazz fade, but it would be fun energy. It was early b Cox too, Yeah, it was. It was it was right before had figured out his own identity because b Cox at first was the baby chacked up, you know what I'm saying. And I was like, he's not Jake Dub like he's got something else. And then I remember him telling me, yeah, I'm about to go

meet up with your main duprix. I was like, okay, but hey, by the way, but I'm gonna get like Jagge got made that happen, Like they found him over there, wow, twinters, So he brought he brought the twins over to work with me. Because the twins brought him to work with your man, that's crazy. Yeah, And he was like, you think you gotta work with the twins and man a little work with him, you know what I'm saying. And they walked in, you know, so you know, the twins

don't know you when they first walked in. That walk in is a little stinky. It ain't it ain't warm. Is different. And then you know, we had to have our sing off, and then we had to go play a little basketball and I had to you know, hey, guys, I'm different on this basketball court. It was me Donnie Scats against the Twins, your main student, main studio half court game. I must have had at least three dunks. Ship. I know this athletic. I was going crazy. They switched

off on me so many times. I didn't know who was checking. I got the Twins. I don't know what's going on right now. And when it would start arguing, it would be crazy because they like argue on some like, you know, somebody gonna get stabbed. I'm man, y'all brothers man. Come on, y'all, don't just met man, Love you, brothers man. That was the first time, as we talked about noon time, that I had ever seen a producer be about his business in terms of how he managed, how he did production.

And that was Teddy Bishop. Teddy Bishop was a businessman, producer like splits will get done here. I clock in at two and at eight p m. I will be packing up my briefcase. Good day, fellas, I'll see you tomorrow. I'm going home to eat dinner. I'm like, where's he going?

Just jazzy thing would just be walking in. Well he walk in with all the energy and like you know what I'm saying, we might go to the strip club like it like it was just that time down there for me, going through all those progressions where all of those guys was was really an important moment for me and being broke at the same time. Yeah. And by the way, Atlanta, you can be broke. Yes, I don't know. I went to the strip up with all the twenty dollars and I just kept falling it over, turning like

I think, well, it's not that he got over. Nobody thought he was bawling, like they just let him live. Like that's the Atlanta thing. It's like, yeah, oh that's cute, you know, enjoying yourself. What was at your level? What was the club? I can't think of what. There are so many levels in Atlanta, and I was. I was at my baby level with my per diam And by the way, you could get like you could get sympathy love. I was getting so much sympathy love you know what I

I know. I know my fit wasn't it wasn't right. It was just twenty five in my hand. But I think me and the girl had a connection probably like she's a human, you know what I mean? Like that happens like you're trying to win off the human. Absolutely so, so what do you want to do? What else? You want to do? What you want to I've still got my church on me, you know what I'm saying. You know the you know the Lord. It's not judgment here, No judgment here, man. We are all children of God. Amen.

They go, hey man, I'm gonna get this money over get his money. Do you feel like since y'all mentioned it the strip club, since it's such you know, it's a staple of Atlanta, something that's always mentioned. It's something that if you don't matter who you are, you could be top of the top loss of the loss you're going to step into one of those strip clubs in Atlanta? Do you feel like that's a driving force? Has been a driving force in what you guys as music has

been out there as well. Um, it's a driving source of of of where things connect, right, but um, yeah, absolutely, like and it's I guess that's skipping stages. Right. So in my from DJ to music stuff, right, I have an uncle who he was a businessman like he because he wanted to make sure I was not on a bullshit. So he was like, what you need to stay straight, and so he took me to Guitar Center and got me straight. And some of that equipment ended up being

the first equipment we had at the Dungeon. But the other story, and that is when I was around thirteen as well, I used to go clean up at the club, at the strip club at the Blue Flame, because me and my aunt used to do the clean up in the mornings. You're cleaning the Blue Flame. Yeah, so it's like, you know, I'm in there looking at the equipment like man, like,

I'm in there. After we finished, I'm playing with the DJ ship like I'm playing with lights and smoke like because I'm like, oh, this ship lives like And I had never been in a live strip club at that point, but it looked like a stage, looked entertaining. I knew I was in the club. I knew it smells funny, like I know this got it got it got in the morning, especially in the morning I haven't been in the strip club in the mor We have been in the strip clubs and be in there. Give me out

of there, trying to get you King of Dimonds. Seven am, they're still going consider the morning. I want to take this end of the night. I don't want to be in there in the morning. But I mean, you, yeah, I guess it's fair. It's fair. So bro, you I mean like that that uss your album was out of control and you're you're in here orchestrating, orchestrating and moving things around. I'm helping, I'm contributing, contributing. What is the

conversation after that, especially when it is as successful. Ironically, So during that same time, we have a deal at DreamWorks. So this half the user album has and they're like, yo, won't you come work over here? So they offered me a whole gig like I. They gave me a package, the insurance like I. I had to go back to Atlanta like so l A. They offered me this as a gig, And I didn't know niggas get paid like this, you know, Because again what I understand now is l

Face was a production company. Dream Works was David Geffen Spielberg and Cattenberg. It was go back. It was with the bag. They make the bags they're like so it's like they were really like, yo, how much you make? Like they would hear me with the real like like scoffing at my money, and I'm like I felt disrespected, not just me, but I felt like what we were doing. I'm like, why are they talking to me like this with the records that we're selling and the impact is happening.

I went back to um l A told him about it. He was like, man, give me a minute, and I guess he then called all around and Usher at the time was like, Yo, you can't. You can't lose KP. And that's how I got my production deal Ghetto Vision, because he was like, I can't give you more more money. I can give you more opportunity opportunity and I was like, I'll take that. And sometimes you gotta have I mean, obviously hindsight right like they say, but sometimes you just

have to have faith. Yeah, that's all. And what that opportunity can be other than chasing a bag. Because I also understood what this bad came me having to educate these people on how to do ship that we did naturally. Yeah, like I understood the idea of you know, breaking up the team. It's like, yeah, I think I'm talented, but I know my squad helps me to focus on the part I do. And that's the part I liked about it.

So and also I got a chance to sign that's when I signed young Bloods and Tia and ti I. So it's like I would have had to explain that in l A Like young Bloods didn't have a song when I sign on them. I just saw them in the club throwing the football around. And it was in the club throwing the football. Yeah, Like it looked like animal house to me, and I was like, it's something fun that time someone you just can't skip the club, Yes,

it was. It was a club called a Chili Pepper and they had two levels and they were upstairs, like there's a balcony on this side, on this side, there's a dance floor down here. They're throwing the ball across the balcony like yeah, as the club is going on,

everybody party. Yeah, I love that they're playing cash yeah, and seam Paul like shake them off, he said, shake them that's a that's a that's a song like we should like, let's let's do that on them, and Pretty King, who is Seam Paul's cousin, was like, yeah, yeah, that's what I was gonna do. And they went home, produced the record and came back. So do you sign young Blood before you signed yea her Young Bluds? Probably maybe ship.

Matter of fact, t I is in eighty five in the video for eighty five, like that's their second I think that was the second single, third single, And that's when I met Tip. Are you married by the video? Shoot? No no no no. I met him around this time, and by that time I started to take him everywhere I went. Like the day I met him was like a day or two before like a Source Awards, and I was like, okay,

he rapped. A matter of fact, he came to a session the group I was in n p A. He came to the session and Reese was like, yea O KP. I think you're gonna like him. You should come down. I was, I'm always at the studio and um, I was like, well, if you wrap rap on this, and he rapped on the song it's on It's on like our third album, right, but um he came in and on the spot said some ship that really that I knew he made right then, but it was so fire and I was like, oh yeah, Bet. I was like,

what you're doing tomorrow? You want to come to l A. And he was like, let me check my schedule and but yeah, yeah, I can do it. I can do it, and hopped on a plane with me the next morning to come to l A. And that's and I was just watching him around everybody like, um, like this was the year that watched for the hook was big for the Dungeon family, so we were kind of popping um.

So he comes out and just the he jumped in the middle of a cipher on the back of the bus that like rap City was doing it and Gip came out like hell shout it and it's like it was that kind of energy, right, but he had it. He wasn't scared, like not from the guidea like there was a camera, Oh Bet, I'm on, let's go. A matter of fact, he Cool Breeze didn't make Cool Breese

whose song it was. He drove from Atlanta to California and didn't make a sound check or camera blocking, so t I ended up doing his part for the camera block but he performed the ship out of it and knew all the words, and so everybody was like, yeah, and that's like his first weekend out. Oh yeah. He took advantage of the moment and I got back and we signed him when the week like the day we

got back. I don't think Ta gets enough credit for the kind of rapper, songwriter, the songwriter that he is. And I've watched him do sixteen bars in his head in five minutes. No, he's actually brilliant. And I'm like, which is you know, goes to the whole point the trouble man ship, just like smart kids are usually bored in school, so you know she's gonna happen. I'm like, how did you just make that up? Yeah? Yeah, yeah.

And and the music he makes it's very diverse. It's not like I think everybody just especially since he coined the term, you know, trap music, everybody just puts him in that category. Yeah, but he's a songwriter. He's like if if you if you make a mistake, right and put him in a sign up with the other trap artists, right, if you put him in the best place for him to be, in the middle, But if you put him anywhere too early. Everybody else's fun because he has hits,

Like he don't have vibes. He ain't got no damn but he ain't gonna vibe. They got hits something very different between the vibe and hit. Yeah, Like it's like I funk with that. It's cool. God him, Like why this keep punched me upside? Bring him out? Bring him out? Like you can't have whatever you like. It's the hardest part is we gotta do Metley's for him, Like we gotta put together a quick ten minutes Metley. It's like,

what where do you go? It's just it's just hooks. Yeah, you want to use everything, you know what I'm saying. It's like something we can't leave out that we can't. Oh, that's gotta be in there by the time you finished the thirty minutes ago. Was that tough for you that you saw that early in him and you identified that with him, but you weren't able to have the six said she wanted at Ghetto Vision with him. Nah, I didn't look at it. I don't think I looked at

it like that because I'm serious with my ship. No, I'm listening and what I'm what I'm proud of is quality. Like if if we were in today, what would be what that record would be? Was his mixtape, Like it's so like it's sold a hundred seventy thousand, but it's sold a hundred seventy thousand and five thousand at a time every week for about seventy some weeks. And I was like, to me, that means somebody's hearing it and

it's and it was steady. And so it was a brick based on all the other ship we were know what, but it was a success in planning the seed. It's like, you know, still ain't forgave myself for him. It's like still it's like a real record for him, you know. So it's like, um no, I never thought about like that. I felt like I did what I was supposed to do. Like I did the part that I was supposed to do. Because the thing is, from that point on, he that not working the way it could have got him into

a place where he did more work. But he started really working. He turned up like like yeah, he started.

He he turned up like a like a real trapper, like got in the car and and start doing the radius of Atlanta, the Alabama, the Florida, the North Arolina, South Carolina and every weekend, like you wouldn't see him in Atlanta from Wednesday to Sunday, like, and it wasn't a big record, but he was going out making sure, you know, like the people knew who he was doing the club shows and and you know he was doing it.

He was doing his things. So by the time Trap Music came around, like the second album and um twenty folds came out, people knew him more. So when he went to get a deal at Atlantic, and it's like by this time, I had I left Arisa because when his first album came out, it was when we us went from LaFace to Arista. Okay, so when we were doing in Atlanta, everything was easy. We got to New York. You got to convince new you know, a new set of people that this is worth something who don't ever

visit the space. So that that I attribute a lot of that to that. It's like, you know, like our first the first choice for a single was a song called Dope Wars in the Trap. That was what I wanted to put out first. We can't play that on the radio. This is New York. We can't play that um, but you got this record with the Neptunes and Beanie Man. I'm like, yeah, yeah, we're gonna get to that. Yeah no, no, no, let's get to that. And that ended up being the

first single. But it's like skipping a grade for sure. So it's like the learning experience for all of us at that point, because I'm like, well, fuck it, it is our record. Like as a as a label head at that time, I'm still looking at it like, well, you know, as opposed to going with good, we've gone We've yeah, we've gone through that, understand Yeah. So but but what it was was it showed like, Okay, you were right in the choice, like, but you gotta stick

with that. You gotta fight through that part. So that kind of helped me through everything else and even just building you up as an executive. Yeah, that got me Like if it wasn't for t I, I I couldn't have I couldn't have got a John legend off with the insenstance of Carl Thomas Tuba. I mean, you know, listen,

just pay attention, man. But what I'm saying, but it's like, but understanding what Carl is also understanding what John also brought to that was like, Okay, there's a place where you know that it connects in a black space, but you also understand in a very nacking, co articulate way. Yes, yeah, you can do this as well. Yeah no, no, John,

John is definitely tapped into the to the Queen's English. Yeah, absolutely, yeah, but it's just it's but something about absolutely you never lose the soul in that and it's something about that tone for sure that is just always connected and it's what and it's what you do with it subject matter why you know, and even like and this is this is I guess it was really my flex. Um. So I got fired from Sony. I got fired from Sony when Rick Rubin came in, and it wasn't like you

suck your fired. It's like I'm bringing my people. Yeah, but Dion just told the people at Colorado like listen, y'all might want to hop in the trail. Yeah. So but but um, when I when I got fired, I had this is post ordinary People album works. Um a matter of fact, it is like the third album evolved. So I get fired. John is like, well, I still want you to work on my project, you know, come and light whatever. Cool, and he plays me this record

green Light, but it was it was another beat. It was like a whole It was like it sounded like video game music a little bit well porn. Um. There's just a very great correlation between those sounds. I'm not gonna say how I know. I'm just gonna just gonna say you said it first. Um. But but I was like, man, this this melody is crazy. This song exactly dope. And he would he would do like a Vincent Price thing in the middle of it where Dre's on one to three red like I mean green like um. But anyway,

he was doing this thing. I was like, let me get let me get the vocals. And I had just got fired. But I had just met my Lee and I was like, I had moved my l down to Atlanta. In my house, I put a studio in the basement and I got back and I had this files. I was like, Yo, we gotta fix this ship. And he was like, you know, all right yeah, And I'm like, let's gonna do this ship like a bass record. We're

gonna make this ship fast. It's gonna we're gonna fam you this bitch out like we're gonna try to figure out how make this as as black as it can be? And we ended up doing it and after we finished, I was like, man, we need somebody to wrap on it. I'm like I tried. I called Dre and I'm like, hey, yo, I got this recommend John Legend and we just did it and send it. Andre is a very yeah. No. Nigga's like he's not a it's not a lot of playing. Oh, let me think about it. Give me a ride to it.

He don't like, you don't really get that. It's like or all right, um, and he gave me all right. He was like give me a there too, like all right, and this is around Christmas, so the Christmas and New Year's Eve he calls me like aighte book studio tonight and he went in and did the verse on it and he was like, give me a minute, let me just do it by myself. So I left when we got something to eat. When I came back, he was like, hey, man,

I added some ship in that little middle part. You know, you ain't gotta keep this if you don't want to. And it was one to three and I'm like, oh, this thing is amazing. I was like, thank you so much. Thank you so much so because I'm like, because you know, now, it's like this is us, this is producing, this is us Me and Malay starting to produce. So I'm like our first record that we're getting off after me getting faster fired and you're delivering to the place that fired. You.

M yeah, yeah, you're welcome. You're well, you're welcome, You're welcome. Yeah. So I leave. I leave Arras because it got to a point where I think that familiarity breathe contempt thing happens, and I felt like I wanted to learn who I was outside of the protection of it's like the family, you know what I mean? And you know, So I left and the day I left Arras to that evening, I got hired at Sony No the next day did you know that you were you know? No? I literally

like the Ares thing was like in a moment. It happened in a moment, and it was like, mm, I know, it just feels like it don't feel good to me. And I asked l A and he was like if if you're sure, yeah, all right, And I called my lawyer afterwards and was like as I walked out the building, like yo, I just left and he was like, why would you do that? Hold on, give me a minute.

And at the time, Arista was around the corner from Sony, like literally around the corner, like take a a right and the right and the left and there you go right. And as I was walking out of Arison, He's like, hey, walk over to Sony right quick. And yeah, it was. It was the funniest ship because I ended up meeting with m Mark Jordan, who ended up like was the person who brought Rihanna and um. And Mark was like, YEO,

can you send me a resume? And at the time I just didn't have one, like I did never had that. I never had one, and I just never had this ship, right. So I called my assistant in Atlanta, was like, Hey, can you put all this ship this in my CD rack and like one of these cases and send it up here right quick and like all the ship I

worked on with my credits in it. So she sent this like sixty thing, this double C D heavy ass thing, um delta dash to me in New York and I went downstairs at the hotel and wrote resume on a piece of paper and zip that ship up and sent

it over and boss. But it was like it was so ignorant, but it was like it now because I was like, if you want to read ship it shipped in there, all the credits in there, and Donnie I was like, um, he was like, tell the kid to come here, and like, you know, I want to meet him. And I met him the next day and he hired me send all yeah, yeah, send of ship. Yeah, say what you've done. Let me let me listen to what you've done. Just read about You can read too, it's

credits in there, but but listen to it. Listen to it. Yeah, yeah, because you can't read about taste. You can hear a taste. You can hear it, but just somebody's just writing it down on something that was especially with so many credits, everybody can say they did something like where's the thread? Like I feel like that's if anything, I feel like there's a thread and taste in the things that I've do, have done, dealt with, contributed to you, my brother, You

have taste. You are a taste maker. Thank you, And everybody is not what I mean not you know, maybe so reflex if you could just we we've we've run down a few names of all the things you've touched. He does sound so Paul but ironically touch Yeah. Yeah, come on Mario, Yeah yeah ship um man Okay, uh okay, my group p A outcast, Goodie my Chelse, Tony Braxton, Um, John Legend, Wow t I young bloods Pink. I can't. That's like one of my favorite um and on Earth. Um.

That's why I don't like doing this. Kill him Mike, how we put you on the spot bro O marian Um for real Kendrick m by Satellite UM A lot of ship um that's crazy just and I know it's way more more. We just needed that. This was a flex moment. Yeah, cap g Yeah, I don't know a lot of stuff consistently working me me, me me. Are you going with these things as you're working on us your album? Just in case you need some of that, Yeah,

I'm unvailable. Call me KP. We have a sex segment in our in our podcasts, we call it call it Top five keep these Top five, Top five on, Top top five hor and B Singers, Top five mm hmm okay, Top five to Luther Van draws, uh oh, like I can get through the whole lous five Top five Luther Van draws um Donnie had the way l Green the gospel according to my goodness, Anita Baker Usher, Can I say something? Yeah, I think And I can't say this enough. When Anita Baker came out on this stage in Bank

and started to sing Happy Birthday, I almost cried. Yeah, it's worth it, that's worth that is how powerful Happy Birthday her everything. She didn't sing raptor she sing Happy Birthday, and it was just a touch. She just went to this place like and I was like, oh my god, y'all don't feel that. Yeah they do. They don't know it sometimes, but that's why it works, because it's a universal tone that that tone cheches that chord and like everybody who hears it unless you just ain't gotta hurt it.

Whooped me just that little bit of happy. But because especially growing up such an Anita Baker fan to hear it live like that in that room with those dynamics on that myke like, y'all got everything in that room is just right. Usher ain't missing, he's not missing night after night, he's not missing so much so that Anita Baker can come in. It doesn't change it. I mean it changes it for the better, but doesn't it doesn't compare don to make you go all right when you

go now no no, yeah. But but that is also a testament to what he grew up on it and what his standard is. Right. So I think that's you know, I think getting back to the other part is like that's the part that's missing the standards. Like we're talking about the show earlier, right, the thing um standards and understanding how good you gotta be to be able to be next to great people and wanting to like wanting to be in the room with the best. That means

you gotta practice like the best. You gotta rehearse, you gotta you gotta take care of yourself, you gotta you gotta do ship. You gonna put in real time. Yeah, this is your job. Yes, we all love it, absolutely, but but you get to do this as a job. This is like support your kids, pay for like pay for tuition doing this ship. Sometimes it's not a game. Um, okay, here we're going that dot KP Top five R and B songs, your record maker, you know, ahead he sends

the CD, the double CD. You know, I wish I wish a strip club on the would go up to KP and say, all you do is spend record spending making break records dollar Billea, dollar Ville. Can I look at my phone? I just want to see what about? Come on, that's no rules your world. I'm going through my I listened to you know, because it changes every day, every day, just depending on the mood in the feeling. Top five okay, oh you know I'll stay and okay

obviously never too much. Yeah, yeah, joint Paine Maze. Yeah, m that's a good one. Not Dorn, not rob Ba, no, but but without who's the jam? Yeah, um, Miguel such a great one. Um, did you have something to do with that? I just I gotta ask. That's wow that you ask that, right, not for real, but yeah, so like I gotta ask, Okay, so it would just make

sense that yeah. But now now I don't have ship to do with Miguel's career in that way, right, but at the him the day that they did the record, right, it's gonna sound like crazy, but you can call Miguel a row Um Filana, who was managing at the time, Flanna Williams asked me to come to the studio and I don't know what for were just whatever, like that's my friend and um from Atlanta. We're in New York

at Platinum House. That's way up studio Platinum whatever, uh platinum, let's platinum there you go, so we um we're going there. And they played this record I lose my ship like it's crazy. But it was like only like two minutes. I'm like, oh my god, man, if you'll just put a bridge on this song, please just try and and it was like this moment was like yeah, I think row was like all right, and then they so I feel like in a way like I pushed Yeah, yeah,

they hurt you. Yeah, they hurt like like but but again in a way not and not in a I did, but it's not. But it's what we're supposed to do and pushing each other creatively, right like because it's not like I did, they did it. But which is also the important part. Who you have in the room matters so much because if you've got somebody room that could

possibly suck it up, they shouldn't be there. And if someone's there and the opinions, it's almost like you should have done something to be in that room, Like whether it's somebody sees something in you that special like us. You know, it's it's not necessarily always about like I don't know if creativity is always about inclusion for everybody in the room. It's like it's like make sure that the the good information gets to the good people. And yeah,

I think that's that's the part. It's like we just gotta share. We got to share it with each other in that way. Okay aru, that was that three? Never too much? That was three? Okay um hours and hours? Yeah, and that song okame on. You know what, I ain't even gotta say, y'all saw what happened? I tell y'all sing what happened? I told her? Yea, she came. She jumped on the record running. Yeah, it's due. What are you doing? Yeah, that's down, great R and B song.

You're gonna be singing that song for years. Yeah, oh my god, it's a classic. Um, you don't have to call, Yeah, you don't have to call why not? Let it's okay girl, it's so where between. You don't have to call him friend? Oh like whoa you you don't have to call? Is? I mean, he's he's always had, he's always had very legendary connective connected song and visual moments. Yeah, but that video that exactly, exactly exactly, Yeah, then fly, I know

the choreography. Okay, you know, I don't call myself a dancer, but I can dance. But I do know anybody's ever missing when that number. I'm just saying that, if anybody's ever missing during that song, you let me know you have he gonna come fuck it up. That's what you ready for the skates and towards something with him. Goddamn. And that's fine, And that's fine. You'll hear about it. You'll know that I was there contributing that. Um. Okay,

that's that's a great top five. Let's get into Let's get into the R and B voltro al Right, remember trying all the lines will come together, Michael McDonald. As we built this voltron, we want four things to build this R and B artist. Um, we want to know who you're gonna get the vocals, from the styling, from the performance style, and the passion of the artists. Let's start with the vocal. Who do you want your R and B singer to sing like m saying this is

my this is my guy? Right? Okay, Well I mean it can okay, Um, I must say voice, ah, teddy, there as ship feeling. I'm gonna I'm so teddy. P for the vocal is aggressive. Yeah yeah, aggressive performance style Charlie, Charlie. Yeah, I go, Charlie with the whistle, with the whistle, with the coming out of that whistle, that he's dancing, he is sank, he is controlling the crowd. He is he's yeah, he's all over that. Charlie Wilson might have, in my opinion,

one of the greatest tones of all times. Yeah. Yeah, Like when I watched when I watched him, that's what made me start that challenge. I watched him sing the Yams. I watched him sing that. I was like, what is that? Charlie Wishing is a complete player. Oh and actually I don't even know if it's real. If if I come back to that, that performance style. Early Bobby Brown, he did have a highway. Does he still have a highway? In that line? Did he get out here? It's above

the highways by the airport. He got a street like he don't lived there, He's not from there. He for Boston. Yeah, Bobby was the studio out theretown which is now because what outcasts about it? Yeah, he Bobby. Bobby was a proud it's a problem and he he proud on it. Say it's like it's like he couldn't wait. Like man, it's like who wanted? Who wanted? Did you know? That is Edwards? He was Usher's road manager. He was also Bobby Brown's road back. I did not realize that he

was my first manager. Okay, okay, he's the first I met Usher through him. He took you, brought me to his house and I said, ate dinner with moms and all the cool stuff. And Um, at the time, Usher had that that girl artist side. I think Melinda look Mexican like yeah yeah yeah, and they was they was there and I was, you know, hey, go like that the first time. Okay, Um, styling of the artists put that ship on leather pants. Oh, I'm gonna get this one.

I'm gonna saying Usher, but I'm gonna say Usher for this one because he does the most and it comes off. Actually, let me see styling, because I might end up back at fucking Bobby Brown. Fuck um style of performance. No styling, styling, the drip and should then sometimes that's this. I'm gonna have a jeld to see. I'm going to jel Toe What would you what? Because it's like, you know what, it won't be pretty. You won't feel like I'm going to jeld to see Timberland boots with a with a

rain short set. Yeah, with a can from this show to the club or to the trap, anywhere I want to go like this in this leather jumpsuit. Yeah, these leather overalls. Yeahahah changed my life. And finally, who you getting the passion from the heart of the artists Donny the way, Like as long as I as long as I live, I can't sing along with Donnie hath A Way still because it feels like it's different every time I hear the timing. Yeah, yeah, the pockets. It's incredible, Man,

you'd be like the same exaction. I know exactly what you're talking the way it's incredible. He's absolutely incredible. Um. That's a great vote, that's a great vultual. It's a great um. I feel like if if I can sprinkle something though, that would sprinkle some shot in it. Why not? Because it's like it's a commanding she does the vibe. It commands attention in a way like is it fair to use the word vibe something now like is the original though before they start turning into other is not?

A vibe is a different kind of exist experience. It's an experience like a vibe to me is always like a song that didn't get finished. A vibe is almost listen, I respect that. I don't look at a vibe that way. Vibe is almost like, oh, you have to be into that in order to you. You don't with it, You ain't this, Yeah, you ain't known, Yeah, you know. This is just for the people that you know. They vibe on that over shot day is uni a universal experience. I'll wipe the sand off the shore, give me the

world if it was mine. How do you do that? How do you wipe the sand off the shore? Like? How? Like? That's not a vibe, that's a bar. It's a full bar. So far it's a bar. This is no ordinary love. There's nothing stronger than pride. Yeah, Like it's it's almost like you hear like some about her music feels like she lives life between every album, like a full though, like a fool span of something, and then this album or this project or whatever it is, it's based in that,

and you hear the reality in it. You hear the I hear where she is. I'm like, like I hear like where I can envision where she's walking. Yeah, next thing we know Kap's I'm like, yeah, you know, right to make sure that I told her to add a vamp, you know, to be crazy, you know what to be crazy? Know, No, it's possible in your life is very possible. Oh no, my life is very far as gumpy, Like I just end up in random ship. Yeah yeah, like and they say, so,

what do you think? Well, since you asked, that's that's literally the that's how that's the alright story. Like like for as, he was like, what you're thinking? I was like, well, if you just maybe and he was like, yeah, okay, speak in it for real. He promised me a song time ago. Did you ask me the other night? I didn't get it. He was he was like he was in and out, so um, you know. I I was running around trying to be the host with the most

fulfill my oblications. But she's just like, yeah, the reason why I'm here, Yeah, reason why I said he was coming. I took the job. I would love two things to get my song as well as you know some of that limited edition Chanelle he'd be wearing. I mean, just you know, yeah we can we can worry about that, you know, the Chanelle park later. But you know what I'm getting put it in there for. But the song. Help me buy some of the now. Man, help me,

help me, help me, help me? Man, you hear me, man, Man, come on, man, um, we got one more part of the show, man that I think it's I think it's very part of very very very special about your travels in this thing, this thing. Man, you're about to eat, You're about to go, you go name it's card. I ain't saying on name. Are he's saying no name. He's saying no name. I ain't saying no name. I ain't saying no names. Who was down, what they did, who it was weird? And what they had he's saying, I

ain't saying on names. The segment is about you telling the story funnier, fucked up, are funny and fucked up. I'm no good at these. I mean because I was raised by trappers, like so the short memory things like oh yeah, but I'm sure your mother should happen the other day, so you remember two? Yeah, yeah, yeah, you got you got stories, man, the only rule to the game is you can't say that name, which I ain't worried about you saying on names. So yeah, this is

KP the Great J Great. I ain't saying no names. Take your time, brother, take it. This is like I am a real loss because it's either all the way fucked up and I just want to forget it because it's okay. So and this is this is gonna be funny because I think you're gonna you'll get it, um and everybody will get it. Actually, no, it was like a late night basketball game. It was like it was like a lot of like I know it's gonna go ahead,

go ahead, go ahead. No, you know what is I had to go to we had we had sessions, and we had to travel for these sessions. And every night we were waiting to go to this session, like it was every night we were told at this time, somebody's gonna call you and I'm gonna meet here and then we'll go to the studio. But this in particular time, we you know, like so just the third night that we're waiting to go to the studio, somebody finally calls. It's like one o'clock in the morning. Me, that's at

the spot way out cool that get there. It's weird as a bunch of like it's just um weird athletics, um like bad team play and um. So we go through this weird space and then like, okay, now let's go to the studio. It's now four or five o'clock in the morning. But when you get there, it's like

most studios you're going too, it's like reception blah blah blah. Right, you open the doors and you start hearing tropical sounds like Google cock like yeah, and you look ad you start seeing trees and and like you realize in the jungle and it's supposed to be. And they're like, okay,

before you go ahead, you gotta change clothes. I'm like you're talking about And it was like, well, yes, the thing right now, I'm like, first of all, I was fresh, and the thing that they wanted to change me and my guy we're like who we who I was with fresh? Because we were like ship, we're showing up. They asked us to put all some some uniform that everyone there has to wear. And at this point, I'm like, we'll

fucking ship. We're in We're in this basis, let me get that canteen, let me get, let me get, let me get some extra, like let me go all the way. And it's like and we're going in session and it's like full on jungle in here right like like on the wall there are like it was just it was why, it was like it was a lot. It was like the jungle ship everywhere, and all of a sudden, out of nowhere, this voice just started singing, but like he didn't say hey, y'all, y'all ready, It wasn't none of that.

It was just like a and and they were doing a version of the person who I was with, and it was just like like tapped in though like in a very like scary like how did you do that? Kind of way? And when we went in, well, when the person came out, they were dressed like the person I was with, but y'all was dressed like we were dressed like ship. Yeah, I can't go no farther than that. But the song didn't, No song got done. We hotailed it out of there and that was it. It was like,

did you keep the binoculars? I kept the jacket I was wearing it. I'm wearing a jacket in Rubber band Man video. It was a day before because it was the week before this happened, so I kept that I wish I might, I would might get a ship back. I got on the heat I got on in the video from the jungle. That's great. That's great. Listen you said on that, y'all gotta figure out who that is dressed like, that's great, that's great. You're a great man. You picked up listen. I don't know if someone names

you KP the Great. Yes, this is radio DJ D Strong and shout out to D Strong because I was trying to find a DJ name giving you the proper name. Bro. I appreciate you're a great guy. Many thank you, Thank you. Find yourself A pace is doing great things. Man. I think that the um, the energy um, it procedes you. You know what I'm saying. It speaks, it speaks before you, and I appreciate that by the time you get on

the scene, it's it's great business as usual. Yeah, I'm saying so and man, well, y'all are doing great business like this is actually like like like when he hit me, I was like hell yeah, like and trying to make

sure I was on your schedule. Because I'm like, I like, no, I love what you'all are doing because it's it's fun, it's it's informed, but it's educational in a way, you know what I'm saying for you know, we started talking about influences and you know, he started telling these stories that it gives you a reason to go look at things and it might trigger something new with somebody else, like hopefully you know, yeah, well that's what it is.

We gotta pass, you know, we gotta give this game some kind of way, like our kind of game absolutely actual yep. And and and in a constructive space. Yeah. And I think all of us, and I think everybody that you guys bring on that it comes from love first, like love the music, love of the idea of being able to continue it, you know, and having a place for us to exercise these gifts. You know, it's that

love part is the main thing. So it's like you can you that energy, that the energy you talk about, it's just love. It's like I saw you doing hosting and I can tell you loved what you were doing, especially when you were on the Homie when he was on his head. I was like, he loved it. I had a ball you know what I'm saying it seeing like seeing all these cool people in the audience made

it that much more fun for me. Like, Man, I'm hosting in front of but I was sitting next to I was sitting next to Run Red Run and LLL. I'm like, nuts, It's like it was like a full circle moment. I'm sitting this is real life heroes. You know what I'm saying, Like, you just can't. You can never take those moments for granted. Bro, those moments are just like but but it's the thing that will keep you going, Like it's the thing that keeps you young,

and it keeps you keeps it fun. You know, Like I'm very grown and experienced at this point in my life, but I don't. I don't feel old yet because I still find fun and new ship. There's still some stimulation going on, absolutely still some growth. I'm always still learning. Yeah yeah, well brother brother KP to great man. Listen, man, we thank you for for coming by a humble set up, no name. That's a great story, bro. We are we

are waiting for um the great contribution. You know what I'm saying to R and B Money, this is the this is the first installment. You know what I'm saying of your contribution to R and B Money, we will be looking for more. What I'm saying, we're calling on you for counsel to everybody else. Yeah, man, anything, Yeah, I appreciate that. Yeah, thank you man, and listen. Man, I'm Tank, I'm Ja Valentine, UM and this is the R B Money podcast. The authority on all things are

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