¶ Special Guest Appearance on Podcast
Another episode , r2ro . We keepin' the special guest appearances goin' on , this one also bringin' in I guess I don't know . What do you do for us , chris ? Are you like our ? What do you producer ? You're like you're the only radio-trained person on the mic , right now ever on this whole podcast .
Yeah , and Eric got my good mic , so , oh , man , so I sound more like you . Yeah , no , I mean , yeah , I guess producer would be the right Producer , yeah right word ?
I guess yes .
I don't think of myself as anything , but yeah .
So we're gonna bring him on and let him . He's been listening to us for eight , ten episodes , yeah , and now he gets to chime in on some of these topics and see how much a hole he can dig for himself .
It looks like he's been sittin' back itchin' a little bit .
Oh yeah , I hear him laugh back there sometimes .
I mean , y'all do say some funny stuff . Yeah , there are some times that I wish I had a mic just to chime in , but I don't wanna mess up y'all's podcast . Oh , I think that would be dope .
You should , you should try it . You should try and mess it up .
Yeah , kinda like the DJ . It would be 95-5 , they'd be playing some music and then the DJ would be like down here with me . He would be like , yeah , that's how it should be . It's like a hype man All of a sudden man , the song's playing and all of a sudden you just hyping . Oh man , you know what I'm saying .
I've missed those commercials when they would talk about the different nights , and I don't be around the block . So what was his name ? It was a drummer .
It was a .
And Troy .
D . They're gonna be climbing up to the rafters .
They got the Texas plates all the way from Crowley .
No doubt , no doubt .
No , so yeah I mean it's kinda weird being on the other end of a podcast .
Yeah , it's just , you're usually on the mic and now you're having to listen to us .
Yeah , now I'm just hanging , so what's the reason why I'm on ?
We had some things we had been wanting to talk about that we knew you could definitely chime in on oh dang , all right .
And plus we hear you laugh back there every once in a while , so we know you got some shit to say , so we're gonna let you . Let it rip , buddy .
One of the ones where I really wanted to comment was the first ever podcast that y'all did with the music stuff . Right , but was it the best ? Rap the best , the five best hip-hop artists .
Yeah , it was supposed to be the best dead rappers and that thing devolved real quickly yeah yeah , that , yeah , talking about rap in general . Yeah , and it was supposed to be solos and then we were talking about groups . I mean , it was all over the place . Yeah , we just basically talked about hip-hop for a while .
Yeah , we all had computers .
We all were about it dude . Yeah , we all had computers . We were like oh , I had computers .
We were coming in front of a dude who's like radio trained , right , so we're like thinking that we gotta be all prepared , we're gonna do some research , so like we could call out each other . And then it turned into we just fucking show up and talk shit on a microphone , bringing my wife , let
¶ Radio, AI, and the Uncanny Valley
her talk shit .
That episode was rough . You really put yourself out there with Christy here .
I told you that's my life , dude . And then we have a . I have two of her , One that is 30-something years old and one that's nine years old . So that's just what I live with that every day , what you just witnessed is something that we watched .
They just decided to have one of their arguments in front of a microphone Because they have them in front of us .
Is that how ?
it is all the time they have them in front of . I mean well , you notice that we instigated parts of those fights too , there's some gaslighting going on . This is how we hang out too , because I'll still poke a fight with those two . I see it .
It made me all worried about offending people on the other episodes and she straight up just went to town . I was like oh dang . I had to put an extra warning on those two episodes .
Yeah , you have to start using line with her as much as you use it with his daughter For sure .
I'll probably need to use the word line with her A couple of times during the episode . I looked across the table and opened my eyes really wide . She knows what that means . I felt bad , dude .
She even called you by your first name and your middle name .
I thought she was going to give me a middle name and she's like dude something I'm like you're going to give her something .
She pulled it back and I just looked at her .
I'm like I thought she was going to give her my social security number and I just threw it . I got scared man .
I turned the other way .
I bleeped that out my life . It's good .
We don't know how to bleep stuff , though , chris , that's OK . I checked the box that says explicit material , so we're good . Yeah , we're good .
And we named it in a method in which people know that we might say something offensive .
I guess we might want to censor out your name .
Yeah , maybe , so Probably so .
But that's where radio training comes in . Yeah , I know how to edit that . Do they give you like ? Is that radio classes ?
You've been doing this . How long 1999 was when I first started . Wow , yeah , it was weird . A lot of people asked me the story of how I got into radio . And it was just being around music and DJing . I just always liked music and decided to give it a shot . And , god , to honest truth , I forgot what magazine I was looking at .
It wasn't any nasty , you know , like Newdy Magazine or anything , but they had an ad in the back of it and it was for this company called a Radio and Recording Connection . So it was just like this learn on the job thing .
I did not go to college at all , right , graduated high school in 93 , went straight to work with my dad and I was building houses , but I still DJed and stuff . I was still always into music . And when I saw that ad I called them . It was this on the job training basically , and so I signed up . I forgot what it was .
I had to pay a little bit of money . They asked for like three radio stations that , like I , would want to work at or learn at . So I think I put KS&B , maybe I did Planet Radio and then I did maybe KTDY the legendary Dave Steele who's still on the radio .
He was one of the ones that was interested and took me on , so like I had this binder of material , Like when I showed up , all prepared and learned it .
And then , like once a week , I would go and meet with Dave and we would do some things and like record a couple of things , and I had to send some air checks back to this radio and recording connection . And I did the course and they said I passed , I got my foot in the door , that's awesome .
So your voice is radio trained voice .
I mean not really dude , I guess .
You do sound off there and on there the kind of the same .
Like yeah , I don't know if that's a good thing or a bad .
Well , it's like I don't either . I'm not really saying it is , but after 24 years , nobody's .
Right , I don't know the book . Now , really , honestly , nobody gives a shit to get in the radio anymore , honestly .
Yeah , I wonder what you think between the terrestrial radio and the streaming , because I know you've been in both . Yeah , you're in both right now .
Now I mean there's not a young crop of people coming up that want to be on the radio . You know they're like , there's just not . And then like we're in a market here where no one leaves this Lafayette market and if you listen to the radio you know exactly what I'm talking about . Yeah , just like everybody is almost still there .
Like I worked at it was Comcor and then Regent and turned into Town Square Media , so like when I started part time doing some part time work in fact CJ got me on KTDY . Oh yeah , I was on for free from like midnight to three for like I don't know , two or three months , get in the swing of things . So I did that for free . What do they do ?
now with that Is that they still have people or they use some AI or something like that , I mean especially now they could probably figure out some way to make a voice to do it .
Yeah , there is AI , but no one around here uses it . Right , there's actually a company .
I think I forgot the name of the company , but they're a radio industry company and they develop AI and there is this station I think it's in Michigan who took it on and they just train the AI to learn about the local area and learn the song so they can give traffic updates , they can give weather updates , everything . Oh , yeah .
And there's this girl I forgot her name , I think it's like Ali or something like that , and she has an AI version of herself that's on the air . Oh , man really Like that had hit the like , the trade magazines , the trade industry , maybe about a month or so ago , but they're pitching it .
It went from corporate radio getting rid of live people to save money and then they would voice tracks like people would record yeah , and you know , you got people from California .
They might be on the radio . Yeah , they're all over the place . Yeah , you don't know . Yeah , so it went from that to freaking AI .
Now , Crazy thing with that man is where is that going to end ?
Yeah , when is that going to end , dude ? But as we're , you're talking about AI replacing people like you . By the same time , people like you are using AI to do even more things , which made me that I could never , do , can never Yep .
So you saw , the Twitter girl sent some of y'all .
Yes , there's a girl on Twitter .
She's a virtual model . Well , she's an influencer .
Yes , and she's got a million followers .
Okay , she's got it . She's wears these tiny , tiny little bikinis . She looks like a perfect 10 model and she is completely generated . She's AI . But now you scroll through her comments and you see all these guys was like , oh my God , I would drink your bathwater and shit like that . And you see other people coming in . It's like it's AI dummy .
Yeah , she's got a million followers , though .
You know , that's one thing that bothers me about the AI thing as well . Whoa , she's AI generated . Yes , yeah , dude , that's crazy , it's fucking creepy .
It's weird , it's a lot of them . Every post it's in her car Dang . It's wild , it's really weird .
But that's another thing that bothers me is people that can't tell the difference .
Right , you know what I mean .
I cannot tell a difference and it's getting tougher and tougher . It was a point where older people got on social media and , let's say , they couldn't tell that a photograph was Photoshop . And for us you know we've been through that and it's like Eric's been through it .
It's like you , you like you know , that's fake , but then people believe it .
Yeah , this girl believed it .
I think it was like 2006 and we read legends .
Yeah , we talked about it . We talked about it yeah .
He had somebody Photoshopped atop of his head when it was currently like that .
Yeah , yeah yeah . I didn't talk about that in the episode . Yeah , yeah , yeah .
Because he told her girl I'll show you a picture with me with a mullet , but she couldn't tell then .
No , it's dude .
It's when nobody really knew what Photoshop was Like .
I found one person that could do it .
But I think our senses get refined .
Yeah , like you're always going to be able to tell a difference .
Yeah Well , even then . Now we can look at things and go like that . We would have been like man , that's Photoshop . Back then we didn't know , Right . Correct Right , we assume things are right , auto-tune , now you , you can tell even when somebody's slightly auto-tuned , because you're so custom to hear and hear now , yeah .
I don't like I've gotten to a point where I almost , when I'm looking at something on the internet , social media , whatever proved to me it is real . I don't believe things are real anymore . I think that all that stuff is fake , just like I used to watch TV and say that that's fake , that's not really happening . Right , that person didn't really die .
But , like you're right , dude , some people they lose touch of that .
I mean , I've had conversations so you're now like distrust and verify .
Correct . That could be real . I don't think it might not be real . Let me go see if it is real and then and then do some more research and see . Oh okay , yeah , that's factual stuff , it's real , Not knowing .
I know people that think that there's people sitting in a room at Facebook fucking with them , putting shit on their feet , fucking with them , and I'm like that shit don't work . Like that bro , Like he's hot to fucking Facebook . I'm like you know you don't have to use that , right .
Like you interact with those things , so it gives you more of you said this is what I want to see yeah . Right , I end up with cereal cups . Yeah , because I just want to eat cereal , that's what I had to tell them .
I'm like you need to stop commenting on things you don't like and comment on the things you do like , and you'll see more of it . I was like I don't see that on my Facebook feed and I got puppies , four wheelers . Well , I bought my wife clothes , so I get women's underwear and shit like that .
But you're not walking around angry about it .
Nope , I'm good bro Like and I know some of they shouldn't be real , so I know .
I mean , Facebook does a decent job of that , but TikTok is on top of that algorithm of like . If you watch a video for more than 10 seconds , like in your feed and your page , you're getting more and more and more of that .
They don't even track , just if you like it and save it , I mean that's when they like know you really like it , but they will notice , they know how long you pause . Yeah , even when you're scrolling through pictures , yeah , you ever seen that ?
It was like a documentary Seven minutes . It was almost like it was a guy with people in his head but they were all sitting around a table like controlling him and it was a movie , but they were trying to figure out how to keep him on Facebook longer and that's the whole thing .
The whole entire movie was oh shit , and it was the people behind or it wasn't in his head , it was the people at Facebook .
Yeah , sitting there . It was a social experiment or something like that . It was during the election time and people were freaking out because they were like , oh my God , they're like trying to control society .
And it's like , well no , if you really look at it , the programmers are just doing what their bosses are saying , which is let's see how we keep our users on our app longer . Write this into the program , and then it evolved into this crazy thing that later becomes like controlling of your life or whatever . Right , yeah .
But it was just .
People trying to do their job really well , and they did , and then yeah , this is what we get .
I give you more of what you want to say . Yeah , yep , you said you liked it . Here you go . So you can choose to be an angry person and only interact with angry things or you be like fuck that .
Yeah where's the puppies ? Yeah , it's true , man , and a lot of that digital marketing , advertising , all that stuff is all based on intent , man , that's what it is . They know where you've been .
They might not know specifically that Chris went look at those hay balls on Go to jmaxcom or something like that but I mean they do know that my user and my device did and they know all and then they start serving you those ads . He wants them , hay balls . Let's start serving those ads .
I know you got into the streaming radio business . I guess now you get more feedback on how long your listeners are .
Yeah , I mean because I guess with terrestrial radio .
How well do you know your audience ?
It's different . Like terrestrial radio , they still have ratings . Mm-hmm . It's a big misconception about ratings . I feel like , yeah , especially when people weren't watching the NFL anymore , I'm just gonna turn my TV off and I'm not gonna give me ratings and that's not really how it works . You know like that rating system is almost bullshit .
Yeah , oh , I've had a radio exec Explain how it goes down and I'm like dude , that's fucking bullshit .
Oh , it's some 1970s technology . Like I really thought by this time that it would have gotten better , like it would have been some sort of signal coming back from the car or something . You see that they have that . We don't have it in this market .
¶ The Impact of Digital Marketing
I think it was probably mid-2000s they came out with what's called like a people meter , but it's only in the major Cities that have on the online station .
Can you see like for us on the podcast . Right we can see how many .
Download all that stuff ? Yeah , but where it's coming from right ? We got people in the Philippines . Yeah , sure you can see real time .
So you can see if I'm listening to you in Florida . You can see , you can see somebody listen in Florida .
So somebody listening overseas , wherever yeah that's like how long they listen like all that . That's real shit . That's that you can , yeah sale to advertise .
You're like you know cuz I spend money in radio advertisements right . And I'll tell you , whenever I first started doing it , I was like that's a lot of money to not know Really how well . Yeah , well , we have so many people in our market and then we have this many listeners and I'm like you don't know that .
And then I found out how the ratings system worked and I was like you really don't know that shit . Yeah , you're trying to spend you try to maybe spend that couple thousand a month on a 30 second spot .
But if you can give them some real data and say , okay , we're online , this is how many people are listening , this is where we listening at this how many minutes during a day to listen . This is their ages and right , so I'm like , okay , hell , yeah , I can get down with that . That's some data that I can take a look at and roll it , see .
That's why I feel that the whole digital marketing side no , look , it's everything tried and true ? Absolutely not . But digital marketing caught fire , I feel because of what you just said .
Like with digital marketing , whether you run Google ads , you run some kind of geo fencing campaign , you run a Facebook ad , you can actually see , like you can see that I reached 10,000 people with this . You can see that 200 people clicked on that ad .
If you look at your Google analytics on your website , you might be able to match Okay , well , I had 200 new clicks , you know . So it's trackable , it's traceable , it's almost tangible to where Radio's , not those traditional means , yeah , tv's kind of like that . Yeah , you know billboards .
You can always say on a billboard all well , you know 1.1 million people pass on Johnston Street and it's right they do , but do they really are 1.1 million eyes on your ?
billboard , not when Gordon's right next to it In the middle of an avocado .
And then in argument you can say I reach 10,000 people in my Facebook ad , but did 10,000 people see it ? No , but at least you have a little bit of data to back it up to where you can see .
Well , you can compare it , you can say well , I saw 10,000 people saw the ad . This many people clicked on the ad . This many people went to my site . This many people think I had converted sales . So then I can compare . Okay , how many it's the 10-nose-1 , yes . Right , if it's in sales .
If I can get to 10-nose I'm probably going to get a yes somewhere isn't there . So I need to 10,000 views , then I'll get a sale . Now I know I need to get 20,000 to hopefully get to this revenue spot , but do I need to spend 10 grand in a month on radio there ? ain't no real numbers behind that .
That's the flip side of the Facebook thing , right ? The algorithm goes through all these things to figure out what to show you more of , so it also knows all the things that you do in life and they take around and they sell that to that . Google and Facebook convince this shit .
I know dude .
You go look at , I think , the top 10 companies in the world in market cap , and five of them are the Apples and the Googles and the Microsofts and the Amazons . That's half of what they do is sell you what you like . Yeah , absolutely .
So the other day I figured out you could take Facebook and turn off the outside of Facebook stuff where they track you . So I went do that and when I was doing that it said there was a morning like a caveat . There's like , hey , there's a chance that the app you're going on . They probably just tell us that information anyway .
And I'm like what the fuck it was , like all right , all right , you can turn it off , but we still get the third party apps .
Tell us Tesla , so you're talking about big companies . Tesla's stock prices .
Number nine , number nine , number nine what Market cap Tesla ? You're talking about top 10 companies , tesla .
Okay .
Yeah so number nine is not a car company . They're a technology company , Correct they ? The reason Tesla's market cap is so big is because of how much technology Elon and his crew have developed .
There's no way Tesla should be that much bigger than GM and Toyota and Honda by just by selling cars .
If it's a car company , there is no way . Yeah , they absolutely don't . Well , they sell chargers and they sell charging technology and a bunch of other stuff they own patents yeah , he owns a shit ton of patents .
I forgot the number , but it's a lot .
I think I always said too , I thought he was just pushing electric car thing to make everybody else do it , which he did . Yeah , To probably sell some battery technology . Yeah , Because he's really . You look he's , everything he's doing is about batteries . And now stuff in the sky , Do you know he ?
so he's SpaceX too right ? When I first started going to SpaceX sites , I see all these Tesla's . I'm like man , all these people are working for the same company . And then now they only they get like discounts on Tesla's . Well , what it is is he's providing them for them to rent .
So when you go to a SpaceX site , there might be a ton of Tesla's there on chargers and the employees can rent and use them . That's why , I'll bro Nice .
Let me ask you this question . They end up fighting in the octagon . Who wins ?
Elon Musk or Mark Zuckerberg , Elon saying him because he's bigger .
Elon said that he's going WWE on it and I don't triple H , is that ? Maybe it's triple H , one of them , retweeted them and said bring it on , let's do it . Brother Like to say the word , so you got WWE people coming in .
The cowardly heel is what he's doing from WWE , the ones that used to come out and then always found a way to not fight or get out of the fight or act injured .
Right . Well , at first he said he was going to be just be a whale , he was just going to fall on top of him .
He's like I'm a just blubber . Then I think the latest one says he has to go get checked out by his doctor . Might have to have surgery , Like yeah , he's playing the WWE thing perfectly .
Yeah .
Yeah .
My money is probably on .
It'll never happen . It's not , but it's going to be like . What was it ? Oh , there was a WWE guy used to always come out and then look in the ring and be like you're not good enough and walk back .
He did it for two years .
This is how he started his career . He didn't wrestle anybody for like a whole year Half of it was . I think he would just say that the announcer wasn't saying his name . Right , you didn't say it , you walked back , that's what I think will happen , but probably from . That is I mean , I have friends that do MMA .
Bigger doesn't mean you're going to win if that other dude knows how to climb on you like a spider monkey .
Zuckerberg trains in Jiu Jitsu yeah .
And won a tournament . I mean , I don't know how many people were on the payroll in the North Korean tournament .
We won the U-Triple S in World Series man . There was four teams there .
Some 10 year olds . Is that you think it's really going to happen , or like I guess it could , because then they had some local guys do that right , they did it for a fundraiser . The pizza guy Dino's do Tim and somebody else .
Yeah , tim , and from Caleb want Bob Moore .
They like really fought though .
Yeah , they , yeah they yeah , they fought back in the day we had some fights amongst the bars on purpose , so the bar out . I ended up working that had an actual boxing ring inside the bar . Talking about it was the stadium club .
Yeah , yeah , when Shannon had it like where a showbots is . Yeah , yeah , I fought there , dude , we did a planner radio thing .
Wait , you fought in the boxing ring . Yeah , put the gloves on . We had , we had these . I mean , we didn't really fight .
There was also a local boxing club that would come do exhibition stuff . That was cool . And then one time we had Bloody Midget Wrestling .
That was pretty fun too . They called it that , not me the stadium club .
Beautiful .
Right yeah .
Yeah .
They had these things where we all , he , the guy Shannon owned a bunch of bars in town and he put together this thing , which was great , and he'd have different people that worked at each bar go fight .
He had a whole night of this , which drove all of these alcoholics that are bartenders to go watch their friends beat up each other , but with the big gloves man , it was great .
They should do it . Elon and Zulk should do it .
Yep , I really think they should . Elon said the other day that he would stream it on Twitter .
Well that caused the problem , because then people was like you could have done pay-per-view and donated more money to charity .
So no matter what he does , he's evil . But he said he was donating to some kind of veterans charity .
So Zulk screenshot that , apparently , and did it on his own little thing .
Yeah .
And he said why don't we use a platform that'll actually work ? So Elon screenshots his phone of Facebook going down and like it was the news article of the like the last day or something Facebook's down , instagram's down . And he said , oh , like one of these .
It's so fucking that guy throws out so much hate . It's so crazy how , and like the richest dude in the world and he was throwing hate like that whenever he was like almost broke too , like crashing rockets and like had to launch this one , otherwise his company's done , he was throwing out hate . There's something that those people that don't apologize for shit .
No they just keep going forward .
That's what . That's what we're going to do here . That's what we're doing . So apparently we have offended people who like sprinkles , and we're going to be on the roll for others now too . So wait .
so I got pissed at the old no well , yeah , Craig's kind of yeah , oh so I'm not going to invite her next .
No hell , no , no , no , no . We ain't got that kind of .
You know you ain't ready for this shit . That she's gonna say anyway .
That little stepper , yeah , so give her a microphone .
I think we should be training her to be a standup comic , like , just get it over with now . Yeah , I'm down by the time she's like 15 , she'd be like Chappelle , I'm down because she told me she won't wipe my ass when I get older .
She's going to have to make enough money to pay someone to do that . We had the Skittles thing in one of the episodes , right ? Well , I proof the episodes when you send that , I proof it in my car , when I'm driving or whatever . Well , I was picking her up from like a friend's house , so she jumps in .
We're in the middle of the Sprinkles talk and the first thing that comes out her mouth is she's like well , y'all going to offend some people who like sprinkles . I'm like well , it might be kind of the point . I don't really know .
It's bad . Now , man , it really is .
Yeah , it's like they're not ready for the world . I like we were .
No , I'm not ready for this world .
Yeah , but .
I know this is while nine years old , I had already been given a key for two years and said take care of yourself for a couple of hours .
Yeah , oh , yeah , yeah .
Me and Tegan were talking about it the other day , because it was like I don't know two and we were not doing anything and I said I would be on my bicycle . I got a left at eight and I won't be home until the sun goes down .
You'd have been 50 miles in .
Yeah , I'd have been on Mall Street and I'm from Canterbury .
Yeah .
Like we'd have been all over the place , but now she don't even go outside . Well , I mean , she goes outside , but not very far . Yeah , dude , very different .
I mean , we didn't nobody knew where we were . I didn't know , but also didn't know anything about anything else either .
Right , we knew what was in front of us . We knew we had to like strange or danger . If somebody was on the road trying to give us candy , that was the thing , right . Oh , don't go to the car . They're trying to get you to the car with candy White van .
Now you could do that With free candy . Paint it on the side . That's how bad it was back there . That's how dumb we were as kids . You had to tell us don't go to the free candy van , don't go to the free candy van .
But now , now that's , it's in a device right in front of you , you know , but that's we were talking about .
They don't look at the device as much as we do now . Yeah , that's true , I was also stuck in front of that TV and the video games
¶ Distractions and Childhood Engagement Evolution
and all that . We were the first ones with all that stuff .
But that's a question I always had . People say just live in the moment or put the phone down . If we would have had that back when we were a kid , we probably would be in front of the device .
To me it's just a product of what you're growing up in you know what I mean , like it's a little bit of both , though , we had the Nintendo and the Sega and all that in the house , and we still play outside .
There's something to those reels when they're like for real .
parents would kick you out of that yeah get out and go play outside , but like even in those old TV shows , the dad since they're Reese's newspaper while everybody's trying to , the kids are trying to do stuff .
So yeah , everybody they always had something . Mom was in the kitchen cooking .
Yeah , everybody had something to distract them . She had an apron on .
Mom , would tell you about when she was little and like they'd go to grandma's house for Christmas and the kids weren't allowed inside at all .
Yeah , it wasn't room for them .
The grandmother would cook some food , like some fried chicken , and put it in a pot on the back porch , and the kids would run up and eat pieces of chicken while they were playing .
And I'm like for real .
It's good , but also like everybody had 10 kids . So when you went to grandma's house it was like 50 people yeah .
No , house was like a two bedroom house , yeah .
You could eat some fried chicken on the back porch .
Come and get it .
So that's when I think we think we're feral and they're like just throwing a pot of chicken in the yard .
Yeah , Come and get it .
They're like checking to see that all the kids grab a piece .
No One didn't just like they had enough pieces . No .
You make it or not , bro , that's your bad survival .
Now you're over here like I know you have arguments for your kids to try and get them to eat one piece of chicken . Yeah , and if you didn't like it . Oh my god , Either you would just then eat . I pulled that on my mom one time , though , because she's like you're going to eat that she also was trying to make me eat everything on the plate .
You're going to eat everything on that plate , and I'm like I am not . She's like you're going to sit there till you do . I'm like I'm going to sit there till you go to bed , and I did .
Watch this .
I left that plate right there on that table too .
I had to see it when I got up in the morning .