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Our show includes graphic references to topics such as sexual abuse, self-harm, violence, eating disorders, explicit language, and sexual acts. Listener discretion is advised. This show is for mature audiences only. Good morning and welcome back to another episode of the Queer LBC Podcast. I'm your host, Nino. My pronouns are he, him. Thank you for asking. I have with me here my fabulous cohorts. Yo, it's me, Christoph, your city top liaison. My pronouns are he, him, and dad, motherfucker.

Dr. Mikey here, your local, licensed, and practicing therapist for entertainment purposes only. My pronouns are he, she, all of them. So what's the T, sis? The T is... Today in Gay. City of LA declared sanctuary city for immigrants and LGBTQ plus youth. Also in Gay. gay billionaire Scott Besant to serve as Trump-picked Secretary of the Department of the Treasury. Today in trans, Sir Lady Java, rest in peace.

Also today in trans, trans state representative Zoe Zephyr launches blistering attack on unhinged capital toilet ban. Also in trans, trans woman wins landmark case in China after being subjected to conversion therapy. Today in homophobia, the Vatican joins Saudi Arabia, Iran, and Russia in blocking vital climate deal over LGBTQ plus issues. Today in transphobia, Republican Senator introduces anti-trans bill to codify the legal definition of sex.

Do any of you queens know about any of these things? I did. I did find the article about the lady, Sir Lady Java in LA.

I thought it was really cool because I feel like whenever we talk about like queer history, it feels very centered in like new york but like queers are everywhere and like la was having its own like queer history here as well right yeah so i thought it was cool that like la list was kind of promoting this so sir lady java was an openly trans woman of color and had a popular dance and comedy routine that drew stars like sammy davis jr and richard pryor when she showed up in the 1976 76 cult

film the human tornado she played herself with effortless charisma that's cool right that's like very early right i'm all very early to be trans. And then job she unfortunately died november 16th at age 82 nearly six decades ago or six decades ago, She took on the LAPD when they went after her for performing drag without police permission, as was then required by law. Hmm. You gotta get police permission to perform? I read that too, and I was like, what the fuck?

Like, who's... Yes, we give you permission. Like, why don't they get to say yes? So she decided to sue the city and the cops.

And aclu represented her and they were actually she was actually their first trans client they ever took yeah so i thought that was really cool that she totally fought the system yeah i would thought that was interesting especially because like yeah i feel like whenever you hear like like gay historical stuff it's always new york at least especially for trans people oh yeah definitely because the ball scene out there very cool yeah i think it's also a reminder for like queer people

of like the police's role in our oppression and why there is a sect of of queers who are trying to get police outside out of our our our prides and our our bars and everywhere we are so remember that y'all remember that y'all remember your trans elders rest in peace sir lady java i know speaking of trans trans woman wins landmark case in china after being subjected to conversion therapy from gcnie after winning a landmark case

against hospital that subjected her to electroshock conversion therapy oh my god i know the fuck right.

A trans i like electroshock conversion therapy yeah that's like the last line like they still use it they still still use that type of therapy but it's like the last line of defense so people who have like severe severe depression if nothing else works you can get electric shock therapy in america really does it work for some people he's like zap them out of depression yeah or like it helps them with the depression it's very interesting but

it's like very rare doesn't happen very often fetish truth.

Be told anyways after winning a landmark case against a hospital that subjected subjected her to electroshock conversion therapy a trans woman in china received 60 000 yuan almost 80 or 8 000 euros in compensation this is the first time a trans person has successfully challenged the use of conversion therapy in china linger is a 28 year old trans woman who uses the pseudonym is a performance artist from hebei province in northern china through live

streaming work she is saving she was saving money to undergo gender reassignment surgery and had come out to her parents who strongly opposed her transition in 2022 her parents committed her to a psychiatric hospital where she was reportedly diagnosed with discordant sexual orientation when she was she was then subjected to several seven electroshock sessions over 97 days. Damn. Speaking to the Guardian, Linger said, it caused serious damage to my body.

Every time I underwent the treatment, I would faint. I didn't agree to it, but I had no choice. She said the hospital tried to correct me to make me conform to society's expectations. The electroshock sessions caused her severe physical harm, including ongoing heart issues that require medication. Following these events, the trans woman filed the lawsuit against the hospital and the use of electroshock conversion practices in China.

In China, the situation for transgender people is not very optimistic, she said. There's a lack of protection for this group. Her case was heard before the People's Court in a city in Haibei, which approved the 60,000 yuan award. LGBTQ plus activists hailed the verdict as a victory for trans rights in the country where Linger became the first trans person to win a case against conversion therapy.

Such practices operate in a legal gray area in china while homosexuality was officially removed in the list of psychiatric disorders in 2001 a diagnosis of distress about one's sexual orientation remained offering a loophole for psychiatrists to use conversion practices that's wild china's medical guidelines were amended removing the diagnosis from the latest version however enforcement and education in chinese hospitals are still lacking according to a study published in 2019 nearly one in five

of trans people reported being forced into the conversion therapies.

We're going to have a conversion therapy episode soon, actually, and we're going to have Miss Anne Russo come on the show, and she's going to talk to us about conversion therapy. That is wild. But did they say that was all of China, right? Or was it like a particular city? This damn article again. But no, no, no. The whole... China was, they're doing the conversion therapy. Or was it just like that one instance that that happened back in 2001? I mean, since then.

What it sounds like is... Well, if it's happening in psychiatric hospitals, I'm pretty sure that she's not the first person to experience that. Yeah, that would be my guess. So it's saying, so such practices operate within a legal gray area in China. And while homosexuality was officially removed from the list of psychiatric disorders in 2001, a diagnosis of distress about one's sexual orientation remained, offering a loophole for psychiatrists to use conversion practices.

It kind of sounds like how it is some places here where, like, random people will just still do it. Because you're not running under, like, a license. It's like a coach where people just do it. Paying somebody out at the table or some shit. Like camps. I think these have like conversion camps, right? Mm-hmm. Yeah. That's crazy. Got to be more better. But she won. She won. Oh, the case. But she, yeah. I mean, that's a good starting point, especially with like, I feel like how China is. Yeah.

Nothing about to become better than us. Yeah. Yeah. And hopefully it's more recognition and people can send more support to China. Yeah. Yeah, because it sounds like they only have the ban on homosexual conversion therapy. They don't have the words for trans yet, I think. See, because is it banned in America? Conversion therapy? Right. I don't think it is. It's still happening. Well, even if it's banned, I'm quite sure it's still happening.

I think that we had read an article that it was banned, but it was also legal under certain religious cases in some states. Let me look that up real quick. I know it was outlawed, I felt like for a while it was going state-by-state conversion therapy being eliminated. But then I felt like there was also like a federal mandate. Because I feel like I want to say I do remember that conversation that basically some states could still perform conversion therapy. That's wild. Mm-hmm.

Yeah but i i definitely have heard of like the conversion like camps and things like that so i know it probably still happens and there are certain things and but certain ways for a damn show we're not doing electric electric shock therapy or no i don't know like so i don't what i literally know about conversion therapy is part of it is like they view it as a behavior so they're just gonna like do behavioral interventions to change the behavior so what they do is they pair a

negative stimuli with like the thought with the thought of like homosexuality or like whatever like a picture and then like like a shock so that's why i think they're using electric shock well probably a little bit more but so like it creates this negative relationship between those things it doesn't stop the thoughts from happening it's just like keeps people to suppress it suppress those like if you're showing me a picture of a hot dude and send

me a shock i feel like i'm is going to become attracted to the shock. Right. Like, shock me again. Your new king. What's his name? Well, according to ChatGPT, states like Florida and Georgia fall under federal judicial circuits that have ruled against enforcing local bans, leaving many protections unclear. Several states, including Indiana, have laws that prevent local governments from implementing conversion therapy bans. Okay.

And it also says conversion therapy is banned for minors in 22 U.S. states. Okay. Well, that's less than half. Yeah. So it sounds like this is something that they ban as opposed to. Oh, that is banned. Yeah. As opposed to. That's still not a fucking good number. Yeah. It's like, we're still terrible. Shit. That's still fucking less than half. It says, however, in many other states, conversion therapy remains legal or

lacks specific regulations restricting its use. And especially with this Trump shit going down, you know that they're going to be like, oh, yeah, let's fucking lift those arms. Shock everything.

But speaking of shock and Trump. And horror. So did y'all hear about like, and horror? Trump's latest pick for his wildly anti-LGBTQ plus cabinet is a freaking gay billionaire. Gay. So Donald Trump has nominated, and this is according to them. Is it RuPaul? Nope. Guess again. Is it Andy Cohen? Nope. Close. He ain't a billionaire. I'm not trying to think of gay rich people. Well, none of them are billionaires. But okay.

So Donald Trump has nominated gay billionaire Scott Besnett to serve as secretary of the Department of the Treasury. In case you need to further prove that representation does not by any means equal liberation, The president-elect announced his latest cabinet picks on Friday via a statement provided to media outlets, including CNN. So basically, Bassett would be the first out gay treasurer secretary and the first out LGBTQ plus Senate confirmed cabinet member.

In a Republican administration, which, again, does nothing for gay liberation. But current transportation. Wait, wait, wait. Read that again. So he will be the first out LGBTQ plus Senate confirmed cabinet member. Is not Ms. Jenae. What the fuck was her name? But in Republican. In the Republican administration. Okay. So current transportation secretary Pete Buttigieg became the first out Senate confirmed cabinet member when he was nominated in 2021.

But Bennett, who was 62, founded the HUD's fund Key Square Capital Management. He previously was the chief investment officer at Cerro's Fund Management, working for George Soros on and off since 1991, per the advocate. As the LGBTQ plus publication notes, the background may raise eyebrows among particularly conspiracy minded Trump supporters. As Soros is a philanthropist known for funding, progressive causes has been a target of the far right for years.

In fact, as the BBC noted in a 2019 article, the right wing attacks Soros accelerating during Trump's first presidency.

After neo-nazis marched on charlottesville virginia in 2017 resulted in the murder of the counter-protester heather hair by james alex fields jr who drove his car into a group of counter-protesters i remember that y'all remember that bro i just i just forgot till now i know right shit that seemed like that was so long ago yeah but it really freaking it's not not, The right-wingers claimed that the violence resulted from Soros-funded outside agitators in an attempt to smear Trump.

However, over the past year, Bessette has served as a close economic advisor to Trump. In fact, some of the Trump's allies told CNN that the president-elect was drawn to Bessette because he converted to the MAGA movement after working for Soros. That said recently wrote an opinion piece for Fox News defended Trump promised to impose heavy tariffs on all imported goods, including a proposed 60 percent blanket tariff on Chinese goods. This is despite the fact that in June to June 16, wait.

This is despite the fact that in June 16 Nobel Prize winner economist wrote an open letter warning that Trump promised a proposed economic policies and whatnot. But. The thing that also people wanted to make note is that he was also a donor to Democrats like Hillary Clinton, John Kerry, Barack Obama. But a closer look at his politics shown that his pivot to MAGA may not ultimately be the big of a pivot.

After all, as a student at Yale University, he wrote in the newspaper that as a southerner, he was heartbroken when George Wallace decided not to run for president. Wallace served three terms as the governor of Alabama, most notably advocating for segregation now, segregation tomorrow, segregation forever. A line written for him in his inaugural address by Issa Carter, a right winger who founded his own Ku Klux Klan organization, PBS.

Wait, wait, wait. 15 seconds back, what? So this dude, this cabinet member that he appointed, Appointed, stated that back in college, he wrote a paper saying that how he was upset or heartbroken when George Wallace decided not to run for president. But Wallace, the George Wallace back in the day, served three terms as the governor of Alabama, most notably advocating for segregation now, segregation tomorrow and segregation forever.

Hairspray. So that was that was right. That was in his motherfucking inaugural address. He was like the huge proponent. I mean, he was opposing civil rights. Bitch. He was worse. I hope your queers feel inspired that you too, that we too can be villains. But this motherfucker also look like that'd be the same motherfucker on Grindr trying to hook up with some young black man. Probably. And try to be like, see, like, that's why that shit, that money and these motherfuckers don't mean shit.

I don't understand gay republicans yeah i don't yeah tal then you never will fucking amen, Oh, man. Well, that'll be interesting. Well, anyways, like, they're going to destroy all the departments anyway. Right. This is about to be... I'm about to give me a limited supply of popcorn and wine, because the shows and the shit shows that's going to be happening in 2025... I'm not prepared. Mentally, I'm not going to be prepared, but at least I am going to be well-fed.

Yeah. But how many queers do you all know are, like, good with their finances? None. Right? and then you put him in charge of the treasury department? Come on. That part. Sounds like he's a hedge fund person. See, but right. He's a hedge fund, but he's a billionaire. Of course he gonna be okay. Right. Now, if you would have put me in there, motherfucker, shut it down. Shut it down. The JFK tunnels. The Diddy Tunnels.

Trans-state representative Zoe Suffer launches blistering attack on unhinged capital toilet ban.

So representative zoe's zephyr the first openly trans person to be elected at to the montana legislation took aim at a controversial resolution introduced by south carolina republican nancy mace to stop transgender people using the females toilet in the u.s house of representatives the resolution passed on wednesday trans day of remembrance wow with house speaker mike johnson saying all single sex facilities in the capital and house office buildings such as restrooms

changing rooms and locker rooms are reserved for individuals of that biological sex i'm like but y'all know when the trans day is to like be doing this shit yeah it was just being petty as.

Each member of the house has their own private toilet in their office and unisex facilities are also available he pointed out, very separate but equal but what what's the fucking issue there right well the issue to make no for them to make a statement to say like we're banding all like to make a statement without actually doing shit like well we do well because tied to this is the house of represent the house of representatives is getting their first trans member so this is in in like

retaliation or in response to having a new trans delegate coming into the house this coming january even though she already got her own toilet like they said right that's what i'm saying like why the fuck did mike johnson ass had to get up and say any fucking yeah well because they had to like this is their this is their rhetoric this is what they've been targeting trans people and it's been happening in the lower states so now it's made it to the federal

and now it's just acting out on here bitches but i heard that the also that the the what's her what's her name mcbride is.

What's her name the representative mcbride is it kathy mcbride martina mcbride but anyway the new representative that's coming in she was talking about how she is not going to oppose the man or say anything about it and she wasn't even planning on using any facility besides the one that was in her office anyways Sarah McBride Sarah McBride there we go and it was interesting because, I was hearing on TikTok, there were some trans people calling her out and saying

how they understood the need for her safety and being aware of that. But also, they were concerned how she wasn't pushing back against the band. Because it's not just impacting her, it's impacting other members of staff. Yeah, and the staff. Anyone who is trans can't go and use certain facilities now.

Yeah so i thought that was an interesting take from i mean that's so hard to be like, like they're literally attacking me personally and then it's like you need a stand up bitch it's like let me like have a second like this just fucking happened but also she probably should be pushing back harder i mean maybe you have to i don't know what is the situation see but maybe you got to look at it how can you push back on like a majority is republican

right and then also So like being the probably the only trans individual of that cabinet would be like she's kind of you got to you got to pick your battles. Now, granted, that's what I'm saying, because she was like, oh, well, I'm just going to use my own bathroom that's given to me. So it really doesn't to her. It doesn't affect her day by day. Yeah. So she's making sure that and I'm and I'm only assuming here that she's only picking her battles.

So she know that she can fight those battles versus them bringing this up.

Like, oh, well, you was trying to... Like, no, I've used my own bathroom. I'll get you at the next fight, motherfucker. Yeah, because I'm like, I'm sure if I was there and I just saw that happening, but, well, duh, Trump just came into office. We already know what the T is. Right. Like, what the temperature is. So, like, I already expected that to happen. So hopefully... Right, hopefully this is like a chess play versus...

Them just backing down completely and hopefully get like a one two under the belt or some you know what i'm saying i mean that's how that's what i'm hoping it almost feels like we just need right yeah it's hard i feel like we almost like need a mentally like reset and just be like okay you know what we're actually back here now already and now we have to continue to look forward as if we're fighting to get to where we actually are right now i guess i mean yeah because

we're already pushed back aren't we i think we need to understand that we didn't make that much progress that we're not as far as we thought we were that like we're thinking we need to jump up here to make up but like we probably only got this farther under this new administration right like it's the same shit you know no but what i'm saying i'm not saying that i'm not saying that they did anything for us i'm saying where we currently do stand is already gone and we still have and we

have to look at it as if we are already behind where we currently stand oh i see and we have oh so we have to like re-evaluate and gain the energy basically to fight to get to where we currently stand now if that makes sense this is the time where we need to start like what you're saying is like organizing coming together as communities yeah so we can at least like and doing yeah so we can at least stay yeah where. We currently stand if we stay ready we ain't got to get ready there you go yeah.

Because i mean they were always coming for us like you said then but i feel like yeah as soon as like day one starts right he's already going to implement like the trans ban in the military. So it's like we already have to look at it as if we're already not in the military. The trans are already banned, essentially.

So now we already have to fight, to unban us or like just basically act like we never got the right to begin with and act like we were always just fighting towards that goal to be in the military i don't know i'm too high. I think i've seen i rarely watch the.

News but i think i've seen something where trump said that he's gonna remove all of the trans individuals in all of the like army navy and all that stuff is that what you were talking about yeah like that was like okay dude like then you who you gonna have out here fighting well i i read an article that said like maybe like majority would be like maybe like a thousand five hundred at least is like known right because most people because charged because even though that shit was

lifted of like don't ask don't tell people still covering their ass and like i ain't telling you motherfucker shit regardless yeah but then what does that do to their benefits you know right that's also what's the impact that the ripple effect that's going to have on their lives yeah i don't know what like that would do like let's say you're a trans man right well i guess it just depends on like i don't know anything about like the military like how much do they background check anybody and

it's like if you're already offering like this is my id i am a dude i look like a dude here i am the end like what are they gonna do they have to like search through every single man's like fucking hospital i mean i'm quite sure they do they got the fucking every fucking bureau to at their fucking discretion and shit i mean i guess oh yeah i guess ai can just search real quick i don't know i don't know.

Jesus christ i mean i can't actually imagine wanting to be a trans person still wanting to die for your country at the same time, But who am I to talk? I don't have that experience. If you are a trans person who served in the military and you want to talk about your experience, please come to the Creole BC podcast. I'd love to hear your side of the story. The Republican senator introduces the anti-trans bill to codify the legal definition of sex.

Oh, I know. I saw that. So a Republican, every time I hear that, a Republican senator has introduced a bill that would define sex based on whether a person produces eggs or sperm and that in an attempt to seize the legal recognition of trans identity on a federal level, Senator Bullshit-ass Roger Marshall introduced the Defining Male and Female Act of 2024 on Wednesday.

The bill claims that there is increasing confusion about the definition of sex as a biological truth and that such confusion and ambiguities can hinder individuals effort to enjoy equal treatment under the law. Ultimately, the bill seeks to redefine a number of gendered items, including boy, father, female, gender, girl, male, man, mother, sex and woman. In addition to redefining sex based on reproductive capacity, the act will also define gender as a synonym for sex.

A press release on Marshall's website said that the Biden-Harris administration has attempted to replace biological sex with dangerous radical gender ideology. We must codify the legal definition of sex to be based on science rather than feelings. Marshall said in the release, which was itself filled with emotional as aspirations about the definition of sex.

The press release also claims that the bill would restore sex, separate sports and scholarships, sex, separated private facilities, including bathrooms, prisons and domestic violence shelters, and recognize the objective difference between males and females, even though many scientists disagree with the binary binary categorization of gender and sex. The Senate bill, right. This, if you've seen this motherfucker Senator, he looked like he only know what he came from a science tube.

The Senate, the Senate bill is backed by conservative groups, including the heritage action, a sister organization of the heritage foundation, family research council, concerned women for America and Alliance defending freedom. The Heritage Foundation has been responsible for much anti-LGBTQ plus policy today and additionally spearheaded the far right governmental blueprint Project 2025.

Members of some of the other organizations, including Family Research Council and Alliance Defending Freedom, served on the Project 2025 Avesary Board per the 19th.

Alliance defending freedom has also reportedly played a role in drafting much of the anti-trans legislation that has flooded state legislators over the past several years this is this is what this fool looks like this is senator freaking dumb fuck roger marshall from fucking kansas oh wait like a head he yeah he looks like every every republican, i mean also true and he also looked like he could be on grinder right. That's so silly. What is silly? Like, that rhetoric is so, like,

2019 already. It's dangerous. Shut up, bitch. Right. And, like, okay. There's more than two kinds of humans. You need to worry about other shit that's happening in Kansas. They're motherfucking that bullshit. But I have some. I mean, I do have, like, even his, like, basic statements. There's, like, there's a super problem with it. It's, like, let me find it. Because I have to repeat exactly. Is this the state level or federal level?

Federal oh how are you going to discredit science like how are you going to be like despite what scientists say like how is that part of your defense or your you know trying to gain credibility it makes no sense well i can probably tell you because according to chat gpt motherfucking kansas science standards are set at a grade bands of fourth and seventh grade that should be in high school so i don't think they really do much about science that's why this motherfucking

senator feel like he could just go ahead and pull a fucking bill or pull the senate bill up like that i'm like okay sir it's like what and what gives you the jurisdiction to define these things right and why you have to define like fucking everything girl boy dad father like well i ain't hear nothing about a human motherfucking being that's all it should be anyways that guy's dumb is that it for these quick tees that is it for the quick tees god damn all right

i'm no longer thirsty time for a little break hey y'all. Music.

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not no more after you said that shit, do you like the cold is it do you end of episode, no do you like the cold do you get cold what's the tea sis, I figured we just freestyle it today cookies gingerbread houses do you like gingerbread christmas trees real or fake traditions you keep your yourself what do you get into what are you getting into this year, Any Christmas thoughts? I do not like the cold.

I grew up in the cold, so I don't like it. But I do understand the amazingness you feel when it's Christmas time and it's cold and snow outside. Like, I understand. I get it. You know what I'm saying? But I'll be damned if I do it again. You'll be cold this year? Exactly. I don't like being cold. I hate being cold. That's because you grew up with the cold? I don't. No, because it's terrible. Well, yeah, especially like in the Midwest, that's bananas. Like it's beyond

cold. Like you have to go to the bar with fucking layers on. But still, in Christmas time, you still go out to the bars. You put them fucking layers on and you get out there to drink. It's true, though. It's true. I lived in Massachusetts. The only winter I ever had in my life. Never again. It was cute. Yeah. It was a moment. It's a vibe. Yeah. Never again, though. And yeah, you would layer up and you go out. And it was cool.

Because it's only like a second you're in the colds right you know from the car to wherever you are but also driving is scary a little bit oh yeah you gotta be i just saw a video where it was like everybody just kept crashing and everybody else oh yeah yeah because there'd be a lot of black ice on the roads and shit and if people just like oh it's sunny out but like nope the fucking street is slippery than a motherfucker so when you say layers on layers like what do your layers look like so okay

so two pairs of socks long johns and a pair of jeans long john shirt or some kind of thermal shirt with a shirt a regular shirt over it now that can go in either a t-shirt or either like a like a collared shirt long sleeve shirt jacket hat gloves yeah.

Yeah that makes sense so that's that's like you grew up in that and live that so yep the california version was in massachusetts i had like a muscle shirt and then sometimes i would have like the the the thermal 45 the one that like keeps your heat in oh okay yeah so like to keep you extra warm and have like a t-shirt and then like a button shirt and then like a jacket and then like a big overcoat and then like a scarf and beanie and granted you had to take you don't

want to take your best coat out to the bars because usually you everybody it's usually this one area in the bar where everybody just put pow they fucking coats up like it's not like you got a coat check or no shit you just got to keep your eye on your shit if not you get too drunk you forget it then by the time you go back it's gone and or somebody just picks it up walks off with your shit so you don't take your best coat out you just take something

that can keep you warm from the car to the bar and be good to go. So my fiance has kept mentioning this to me that everybody keeps claiming that California doesn't know no winner. But we actually do do. And I feel like considering what your layers are and the layers that I have on literally today that I put on for work today is the same thing. Because I – well, okay. Well, if you're a Californian who's experiencing life at 6 a.m.

Right. So like when I have to get wake up to go to work today, I literally put on my long john underwear. I put on a pair of sweatpants and then I put my jeans on. And then I have two pairs of socks. Like you said, I have one like long pair of socks and I have a short pair of socks I put on over long socks. And then my boots go over that. And then I have my long john shirt on on under. You can see right here, long-drawn shirt under my long-sleeve shirt. And then I have a hoodie on. Okay.

A Gildan brand hoodie. Ooh. Which are hot. Those guys are pretty freaking warm, yeah. They are. They're like 100% polyester probably. And then I have a beanie. And then I have a hard hat because I'm a construction daddy. But you're outside all day. And I am outside all day.

But when you go to the bars you just in and out like you just bar hopping so i can understand that but see i mean the the i would say that yes to go outside to be bundled up you got to wear all that shit too and i feel like we are getting like worse and worse like weather out here obviously with climate change that is true remember like last few years we got those people that got snowed in remember they died in california because they got snowed the fuck in yeah or wherever the fuck

it was it was like san bernardino oh i don't know sorry to say bernardino. I don't know. I feel like winter cold and maybe the Midwest and East Coast, that cold hits different. Yeah, because it do hit different. I did experience Midwest winter one time. I went to Purdue. Oh, shit. Ball of makeup. For my friend's graduation. And then it was literally snowing. And I was like, this is my first experience of real snowfall, I think.

Oh, did you freak out? Did you go in playing the snow and shit and let the snow hit your face?

No because we were stuck at the graduation so we were like stuck on campus basically, and but we did walk out in the snow and i was like only like california dressed so i just like had a hoodie and like a decent like fashion jacket okay you're cold and i was freezing my with my skinny jeans oh lord i'm prepared so but do so i always assume like before i moved to california i always just had snow for christmas until probably like a couple of years you know climate change

unfortunately but like it always snow and sometimes it will snow for halloween oh really yeah it was snowed that that early and sometimes in the midwest but i freaking just i removed snow from christmas now that i moved to california i don't need to see it Give me those Hallmark and Lifetime Christmas movies Where they're fucking snowboarding Not snowboarding, but fucking at the beach And another fucking Having a motherfucking Uh.

Snowboard not snow what the fuck surf surfing surfing's competition and shit with a christmas head on i'm good to go right isn't that cute right you know like i don't need to see no snow fuck santa claus fuck the the north pole fuck all this cold shit i don't want to see it but i do want some hot chocolate though we're recording this on november 26th oh shit but we got the first.

We got some sprinkles today some rain oh yeah literally as i was leaving work it started sprinkling i was like bitch can we just like leave earlier yeah i feel like rain is what i'm used to for christmas i feel like it always like rains rains rains that's true but it shifted a little bit too but i remember snow for me was part of christmas time because we used to like drive up to big bear or somewhere it was snowy to visit the snow and i think that's what i love about california

you can just drive two hours get the snow and you can come back home and you'll have to live in it like that's the best thing i always think that's like tell me if this is like a california thing but we always say it's the snow you go to the snow yeah it doesn't snow but you go to the snow yeah that's where you live do you ever when you were growing up did you go to the snow No, the snow came to us. Right? Yeah. I feel like that's the thing that we do. Go to the snow.

We go to the snow. We go to the snow. We take the day out to go up to Big Bear. Yeah. And we're going to teach your children how to experience snow because you know that it snowed and you're going to travel up to go see the snow. Oh, yeah. See, like, because we would have snow days. Like, you know, it would be almost put into the calendar. Like, look, if we have a bad snow day, school bus is going to shut down. School is closed. But then you all get extended, right? It gets tacked on. Yep.

So during spring break, we may have to stay a couple of more days to finish out the school year. When I worked in Massachusetts, like, I worked in schools. And they'd be like, oh, but we have, like, snow days that got tacked on. I'm like, I got to work longer. Like, yeah. I don't know. Take C-backsies. Fuck that. The day done done. Remote education, y'all. Right. Get up with it. Okay. So you never went to the snow? Oh, no. Never went to the snow. The snow always came to me, unfortunately.

I remember one time we went to the snow and then our car overheated. So then we had to put snow on the engine to cool it down. I was like, is this even working? That's interesting. That makes sense, though. It's like they had a cooler leak.

I don't know. but then i played in the snow and then i was like i feel like a skier almost like i think a skier actually ran into me and like i had like a weird like fucked up experience like a three-year-old, but wait you was playing in the snow and somebody was skiing i think so i think that's the memory i think this memory is like i'm like a kid and i'm like wandering and like like playing in the snow wandering off,

and then just like a skier just like goes zoom and like I'll see it and it'll go flip, as this was like TikTok as you had to be on video.

Anyhow but yeah, Are you guys having any winter foods that you eat? Like a Christmas meal or just like a winter dish? Not a specific Christmas meal, but things that you eat during winter time specifically. Chili. I keep hearing about chili. Why are people eating chili? What do you mean? I never eat chili. Chili is the shit. You know what's so weird? Literally. Go off. Go off, queen. I'm not going to. You go off. No. Dude, you get you some good pair of beans.

So, like, I put a lot of beans in my chili. A lot of people don't like, they're just like, oh, I just want to use a chili bean. Fuck that. I'm putting some gazabos. Some gazabos. Some chickpeas. Gazabos. Some gazabos. Right. Some kidney beans. Like, my mouth is watering now. Damn, your mouth is watering. Some black beans. I was, yeah, I put a few. Bean medley? Yes. And then I put some soy de riso in it and some bell pepper and some onion. Soy de riso. Yeah. And dice up some carrots.

I have soy de riso in the fridge right now. What? What you make with your soy de riso? Huh? What you make with your soy de riso? I just make like, I just use it as chorizo. Right. So what? Tacos? So like eggs and. Oh, eggs and. Or like potato chorizo. Oh, okay. Why am I saying chorizo? Because that's what it's called, ain't it? What do we call it? Soy de riso. The way that you pronounce it is like Chorizo Wait what is it? Chorizo Chorizo Chorizo Chorizo Chorizo Chorizo So how do you say chorizo?

Chorizo Oh okay so I said it right. Chorizo Chorizo What you gonna fuck eat your chorizo huh? I make like chorizo Chorizo potato Chorizo It's my favorite With egg Restaurants will never make it right Oh, yeah. But I feel like, yeah, chorizo is definitely one of those comfort foods that I make in the warm, in the cold times. Okay. I actually did make it two weeks ago. And what else? Tamales. Tamales. Oh, yeah. So that's one of the Christmas meals that I found out once I was in California.

Oh, what do you think? Tamales is, oh, yum, yum, yum, yum, yum, yum. What's your favorite? So before it was like, what, chicken?

Chicken tamales? but now since I don't eat meat, I what is it just and these motherfuckers be hot as fuck that god damn jalapeno and cheese I'm like damn can y'all take those seeds can I get a banana pepper or something god damn, these motherfuckers are hot as fuck right they do need to tone it down a little bit right like shit can I enjoy this motherfucker tamale they should put those, the canned jalapenos in there I mean I wouldn't be mad like the nacho the nacho

jalapenos I wouldn't be mad at it wouldn't be mad at it cause these motherfuckers be burning my tongue. Yeah we should make our own tamale that's why i like tamales especially recently we started making our own putting whatever we want in it oh okay yeah i think last time we made like some with calabaza and what is that squash oh i bet you that shit was good with onions and garlic and it was in the tamale oh so like you can put anything in it that's pretty much true oh my god.

How smart that sounds good as fuck y'all doing them again this year yeah okay she's elevator put me a dozen to the side yes nice wait so you never had tamale experience before it's california i don't tamale christmas is all see our our mexican dishes or our yeah our mexican food back in the midwest was totally different it was like white people taco night well no because it was it was mexican restaurants ran by mexicans but it was

just like i guess they adapted the environment to make it you know cause you know most people are like what is that like you know shit we didn't have like these exotic tacos, like the street tacos here like you got all the meats at pastor chicken, casada, then you had ground beef or ground fucking turkey now and then right so like at least to my memory I don't remember nothing being called like el pastor or nothing like or like.

No like low key I always think I would make a killing and finish up in a restaurant, like a Mexican restaurant, like anywhere. Anywhere in England. Not in California. Right. Yeah. Because the shit be like, oh, these street tacos like, mm, goddamn. Like, it just hit different. So yeah, we, tamales wasn't a thing in the Midwest. That's so funny because you know what? It's true. Like, I feel like Hispanic culture really, like, has a lot of, like, Christmas culture. Like, like,

They have like so much shit. I mean, yeah. They're so intertwined. Catholicism. Yeah. Colonialization. Like this fucking poinsettia plant that's on this table right now. Now, one thing that I do know. This is actually an indigenous plant to Mexico. Right? Is it? I don't know that. I forgot. What's the indigenous name?

So while you looked it up. So one thing that I do remember from the Midwest is that, oh, baby, when I first put my lips on that shit hey i said that what the fuck this shit been all my life where has it been like a puerto rican yeah the puerto rican like uh poquito like during the the winter oh yeah not not wait what is it cojito coquito yeah right so this is when i was in the midwest and i was like oh baby it was oh it was the freaking licious like you can kill a whole bottle of that and be

effed up and not even feel like you won't even feel it like but you so good yeah my best friend's puerto rican and one year we made it and the best part actually the best part is actually making it because you're sipping and tasting it by the time you finish it you're gone you're done nice oh yeah you haven't used if you ever tried it you haven't hit it okay well we'll pass something we'll have a christmas thing what's it do you do you guys have any like traditional christmas.

Drinks mexican culture that they have ponche um i'm gonna make it this year so ponche is like is like getting the guayabas that's what's blooming right now so white what's right now is guava guayabas apples pomegranates what else goes in it there's something a fruit that starts with the teeth yeah hey cojote is that like they it's like a is it green and it has like a flesh inside and they had like some seeds yeah i think so yeah yeah yeah

so you put in with some sugar some sugar cane and like cinnamon and it's supposed to be like this warm it's kind of like a mexican apple cider oh okay oh i do love a good fucking apple cider i'm having like a good apple cider i don't know why i was thinking of this too i went to, Julian, California, I guess they know for their apples, but they have like an apple pie. Yeah, yeah, yeah, up there. Damn, I'm about so freaking many apple pies. They're like these little orange,

I think you're thinking of Tomatino. Oh, okay, okay, okay, yeah. Yeah, so that was when you kind of brew it and it was also warm tea. Like, are they like the little ones that we see on the streets here? Oh, okay. You know what I'm talking about there. I think I've had Champurado. Yeah, that's the one we put like the masa in. But as far as like, what do I like personally drink for like Christmas or winter vibes?

So basically to make like this nino's hot chocolate recipe you get like i don't know how much fucking butter maybe like butter is in it what wait a minute okay okay let me just listen open ears open heart open tongue hold on maybe like maybe like two tape maybe like two tablespoons of butter get it in your saucepan melt it up get your hershey's hot cocoa powder and then get like two tablespoons of that and then cook that little up make it a little hot and like chocolatey little

mixture right get it warm and then get heavy cream half heavy cream and then half milk and then mix it together all of it together and then add maybe like probably i don't know a cup maybe half a cup of sugar.

But you would probably do that before the milk part add the sugar I don't know this is your recipe so add the sugar with the butter and the hot and the cocoa powder okay get that like all like going and then add the milk heavy cream mixture, as much as you want you know you can like, make the as like potent as you want make it as potent as you want put as much butter and or cocoa powder and or mixture of milk as you want. YOLO. You can figure it out yourself. That's for later you to figure out.

So that's the hot cocoa base. So you can have it virgin if you want.

People will orgasm themselves for this, trust me. And then just add the butterscotch schnapps or peppermint schnapps. Boom. Spice. Ultimate holiday drink, bitch. I love it. Suck a fucking dick. It's done. Fuck Sangria.

Too much fucking work for not enough payoff i could get a bubbly red wine bubbly and it tastes goddamn same that's true preach but do you spike your sangria do you put brandy in it i mean i feel like sangria is only spiked it's only wine i mean i know you're supposed to put cognac or brandy in it oh i mean yeah okay i just want to make sure i don't know some people i'm not drinking Get a grape juice. Grape juice. Holler. This isn't so much for Christmas. I used to make...

With rum chata. Oh, yeah. With iced coffee. Mm-hmm. And that was my New Year's drink. That was also a recipe me and my sister were down with. You get a Starbucks frappuccino and then just add rum chata to it. It's very good. Not that we start. We don't start. We don't. We don't support Starbucks. We don't support Starbucks. No. But we used to when we were unwoke.

What's your favorite christmas movie or do you have a christmas movie you don't have to be your favorite i feel like the one that always comes to me for christmas is a christmas story with ralphie who wanted a shotgun and he couldn't get it because he shoot his eye out because i remember growing up as a kid it was a team t or some network would show it for like 24 hours or 48 hours and there's nothing else on that was good so i'm

like let's put this on so it's just like ingrained as a Christmas memory. I haven't thought about TNT until this very moment. If you guys ever get the chance and make it to Cleveland, y'all should go and check out the house. Oh, that's cool. I want to go. It's bananas. I want to go. That's such like an American, super American movie. It is. It so is. American staple. And then the other ones I remember are the, the claymation Christmas stories. Oh, Rudolph the Reindeer. Yeah, yeah.

Radar. Rudolph the Reindeer. Rudolph the Reindeer. That Reindog. Damn, what was... So, of course, mine is... I hate to admit it, but like Home Alone. I love Home Alone. The first one, like... I still love the second one. I mean, true. The second one is better, Swallow. I do love the second one better.

I feel like it's just like embedded like because I feel like that second one was almost like two years after the first one like it wasn't like a year and a year like it took a while for them to make, that second one to be honest I've never seen the first one I've only seen the second one, so I don't know why I'm claiming it's better, you should check it out this Christmas I've seen both of them and I like the second one better.

The pigeon lady is iconic she is yeah see but that's new york though but i don't know why pull up my new york accent uh but yeah so that and then uh, Elf. Oh, I never seen Elf. You never seen Elf? I never seen anything. I'm not a fan of... Will Ferrell? Will Ferrell. Why not? Because he's just a goofball. He's the same all the time. I don't like him either. Like, I just feel like everyone's all hype. And it's like, you're just the same character all the time. He's just like, I'm Will Ferrell.

The funniest thing he ever did was with his daughter. You see Miss Pearl? The landlord Miss Pearl on YouTube.

Oh i think i did like during covid yeah yeah give me your money i feel like that his best time was on snl yeah oh did y'all hear about like how he's with his friend his friend he supported like i think it's like a netflix show or some shit that seems so fake where it's like oh i have a trans friend and i used to be transphobic and listen to me talk about trans people because i'm i haven't watched it right because i don't think that's what they're doing right i'm biased review,

is that i just don't want to watch it because it just feels like it's like well right and you haven't even seen elves so i'm quite sure you're not gonna see this it seems like it i mean it's my hot take it just seems like it's celebrating him, for becoming non-transphobic where it's like okay like i think we're not gonna switch any transphobes like ideals because now you're just gonna make them hate you now.

That probably is your hot take go off queen tell me what you thought about it I mean why I ain't never seen it, I'm not defending it I'm just saying cause Will Ferrell was just a figment of that it was more of his friend who's going through the transition, of being trans It just felt like it was about Will Ferrell. Oh, so I think that's like how, you know, the trailer was the trailer and, you know, like, you know, marketing. I'm so great because I like found compassion for a trans person.

Like, OK, like, how about we talk about your trans friend? Well, you know, her name. I just know that, see, I don't even know her name. I just know his name is on this trans person's mass media. See, I think you have been taken over. I don't give a fuck about neither one of them. Truth be told. One of my favorite Christmas movies, you asked? Right.

Definitely not Elf. There was a really good alien oh shit not christmas and christmas in the space it's called like it's called like alien xmas or some shit like that i don't know it's like a 3d like cartoon oh it is so cute it's like a little can you watch it on youtube i think you can probably watch it on netflix i think that's where i saw it originally i think it's called like alien xmas or some shit like that it's like a cartoon

movie about an alien who experiences christmas or something I really don't remember. It was so great that I don't remember. But my original favorite Christmas movie is Charlie Brown Christmas movie. That is a go-to, my guy. That is a go-to. The soundtrack is great. I feel like that movie kind of explains Christmas and how I experienced it, where it's all about Christmas. And then you have that one second where you talk about Jesus, and that was literally it, the end.

And then you go back to christmas because that's what the movie does they like it's the season they like are like right celebrating christmas the whole movie don't know why then they talk about jesus for like five seconds which i think is fine, i mean it didn't kill me to hear that five seconds uh.

Yeah, religion wasn't like a centerpiece for Christmas for me. I think maybe as I got a teenager, we started going to church for Christmas. But as a kid, kid, no. We was in freaking church from December 1st to motherfucking January 2nd. Oh my God. Yeah, like all the Christmas specials, all the revivals.

Like it was just like yeah we was in church Christmas was church church is Christmas damn it and I was like oh lord but not in November though you wasn't in the church in November no we was in church all the time but like Christmas like exponentially more like it was like you Christmas was church you know what I'm saying like you had your Christmas recitals your Christmas plays Jesus of Nazareth the motherfucking like so it's like christian pride you said

if you said you hit it on the dot it's christmas christian christians christians i didn't make that up myself who would you get it from the internet chat gpt i love it though it's very accurate you like oh expanded my mind christian pride yeah yeah i saw some it was like i think it was just like a screenshot of a tweet somewhere one time and it said something like, it was like a Christian person complaining about pride and saying something like,

imagine that we did something like this Christians did something like this where we just talked about our Christianity 24-7 blah blah blah for a whole fucking month and then somebody was like you mean December? Fuck it's like November and December now. And I was like oh yeah it is literally like Christian pride it was just like it's all about the Christians this whole time. But not really. I feel more recently. I think that's why they're complaining,

right? They want to put the Christ back in Christmas. Are they complaining that it's not about Christ anymore? Well, I was thinking about that. Because I was thinking back to this Facebook post that I had put, I think. And I had wrote, like, keep the Christ out of Christmas. And then my second cousin wrote back. And he was just like, fuck you! And then he was like, if the next time I see you, I'm going to kick your fucking ass! Because I said this.

Controversial statement that i was like literally just saying as a joke but i was like okay.

But uh i was also thinking back thinking like maybe they're right like because the the entire time i've ever experienced christmas it was all about santa claus and not jesus and it was literally like five seconds of jesus and it was kind of like an afterthought and it almost kind of felt like when we talked about jesus it was like so like other christians would see that you had said that kind of like virtue signaling jesus like like christmas is a time for for people to

virtue signal christianity because they don't do they don't actually do it like in ever okay yeah i I mean, I think the day we went to church was like Christmas Eve or Christmas Day. We went. It was always anchored to like some sort of like Christian holiday. And it's kind of like to like nod in and be like, see, I am here. I'm here. You got me, Jesus? Hey, Pastor. Pick me up on this. Every other time I didn't show up to church was because I actually had that flat tire.

I did have diarrhea. Uh-oh. My child did do that. But I'm here on Christmas Day. And you know, I'm a real Christian and God sees that.

And that's what it feels like i feel like this is how it felt like in my family at least like, i don't know is that what you call like a holiday catholic yeah holiday religious person i would say so i'm down with being that but i did experience midnight mass with my first girlfriend that i had i thought it was interesting cultural experience what is that like going from christmas eve to like christmas day so like you're like up in that church till one o'clock in the

morning i don't even remember like really what time we were there till the time we were gone but it was like we went to the saint john of god the same who or what saint john of god and we sat up in there, And I was like, y'all didn't even decorate. Oh, they had y'all in an empty-ass church? I was like, why is there purple here? That's not green and red. Why are there no bells? Right. Where's my Rudolph? I was like, I don't understand. Where are the lights?

Where's my baby Jesus at? Something. Why is it Santa? The fuck? I was very disappointed in the Catholic midnight mass display of non. Oh, it was like a Catholic church. They don't do that shit, though. I think I went once with a friend who went to Midnight Mass during the holidays. I was like, oh. I was like, y'all really don't spice it up for this. Let's have you make it to the last call before the bar close. I'm like, we're here at midnight. You could at least something.

Some kind of razzle-dazzle. Come on now. I thought this is where you guys really bust it out. Bring out the good stuff. Right. it's like no and that's your display of this whole religion for me great yeah definitely not signing up. I do love Christmas, but I'm so far removed from buying gifts and shit. That's not my type of Christmas. My type of Christmas is giving and being joyful, being happy. Are y'all buying gifts this year? I'm quite sure y'all are. Y'all have lovers and families.

Y'all have capitalist intentions? I mean, it's hard. I feel like there's a lot of pressure to do like capitalist intentions, right? I feel like there's a lot of like, I feel like if I just retracted every gift I was about to give, people would be looking at me a little bit sideways. What you mean? I feel like personally, I don't walk into holiday season expecting anything. Oh, yeah. Oh, no. I would never do that. Like, I don't expect anything from anyone.

I feel like I know a lot of people whose love language is to get gifts oh so.

So if I retract this love language to them on Christmas I feel like they're going to look at me sideways being like oh like I got him something and he didn't give me nothing and now they're going to reevaluate their relationship with me kind of a thing, because and i can understand that in a way that i understand my own father's love damn this game deep okay it's like there are some relationships where you show your love through

money oh okay and that's how you're showing them that you're either taking care of them or that you love them or that you love them or that you are their stable person. And blah blah blah but there's another thing where it's like cousins level and it's like, I feel like this cousin, okay, we're talking people now. Oh, okay. So I feel like this cousin in particular has the love language of gift giving.

Because I feel like their parental unit also showed love in the way that my parental unit did in the monetary love language. Oh, okay. So then I think that this cousin is also giving me back that because they give me gifts. Because that's what y'all grew up on. And so they give me gifts and they are showing me love through gift showering. which I don't like.

You don't like to be showered with gifts. I don't like to be showered with gifts because then I understand that I feel like there needs to be this reciprocal gift giving which I'm not down for because my budget is not down for that. Right, that don't necessarily mean that. But it feels that way. Okay. So it feels like a pressure, right?

That I need to reciprocate a gift back because I already know even if I told this person, oh let's not do gifts this year they would be like yes let's not do gifts and then give me a gift anyways because they love me so much that they're gonna give me a gift you know what I mean we're like that's your fault so, let God use you let God use you let God okay I'm gonna just. Everything is that now let God use you okay look I told you what it was I told you what it is.

But I feel like this is like a thing, right? So, so yeah. So then I still do feel this kind of like weird, like pressure to feel like I need to give a gift because they're going to give me a gift. Which I've already described a million times to my own family, which is like, this just feels like a money exchange. Oh. You're spending this much on a gift. I'm spending this much on a gift for you. I'm buying you something you don't want. You're buying me something I don't

want. We both spent money on something. It's probably relatively the same value that neither of us want. We both wasted money because of Christianity. Great. Thanks, Jesus. Thanks, Father. Yeah. But how does someone combat that? You tell me you're the wise man. Yeah, what you could do is you don't have to give them nothing that costs you money. Just don't participate. Right, but you can do that. But also, you can get something from the heart.

You can go and go to the dollar store and get you a... That's a dollar. That's $5 now, because the dollar store is now a $5 store. Well, that's okay. Well, I'm quite sure you have stuff in your apartment or something that you can refurbish to make something that somebody will appreciate because it was a thought. Does that not feel cheap? See, now, do you want to be cheap or you want to pay some money now? Now, which way you want it to be? I want to break... You want to break bank?

Go ahead and buy it. I want to break... What is it called? The family... Curse? The generational curse. I want to break generational curse. Yeah, that's going to give a shit. Yeah. I mean, I think to break generational curse means also that, like...

You give and then you don't like receive no but like don't second guess like oh what are they thinking about me like that's what needs to stop is the best thing what other people are thinking but i'm trying to not give but don't give don't give but then don't worry about what they think about you okay okay okay right okay so just don't give and don't give a fuck and don't give a fuck like see it i told you i'm not doing nothing

yeah don't give me nothing but just because you don't gift doesn't mean you don't give a fuck. You still care about them. You still love them. Okay. I don't give a fuck that I didn't give them a present. You ain't got to snatch the gift. Yeah. What did you say? Go with God or what? Let God use you. Let God use you, girl. God told you to buy me presents. He sure lets you do that. Not tell me to do that. He didn't tell me the same story. God told me to save some cash.

But I feel like my favorite part of Christmas is actually doing the tree. I thought that was a really big thing for my family was like every year, I felt like we got new decorations. Like my grandma was really about like setting up a tree and like almost every year she would get a new tree. She was like, that one was so last year and she would get a new one. And then she'll buy ornaments every year. She was so wasteful. So dramatic and I love it. And like every year was something different.

So it was something really exciting. I remember like the biggest year was when I got to like, they're like, Oh yeah, pick what you want. I got to design the tree and I was like young so everything was like Scooby-Doo. And I was living for it. So like I feel like setting up the Christmas tree is like something I really like about Christmas. Now did you guys set it up like after, cause I know some families do it like After Thanksgiving. After Thanksgiving. And the next day. Yeah.

What is your tree life? I can barely remember. Real or fake? Oh, fake. We ain't doing no real trees. What the fuck? We did one real tree once and never again. Nah, I don't think we did not one real tree ever. And like my direct family, like my mom and dad and my brother, nah. Ain't her. I got into a really brutal fight once with one of my ex-friends about Christmas trees, real or fake?

Did it end because of this fight? it didn't but it was like definitely like one of those underpinnings that we like thought about forever being like oh we don't have different what you like real christmas trees well i'm shocked that you guys have both said that like you're like fake forever because like i feel like growing up my entire life because my dad i i want to say he has like probably like republican tendencies he just shows real and he could not like stop himself

from getting a real treat every single year we literally had to go to the tree farm every time and pick out a tree but that's a tradition yeah yes but now that you guys are saying like fake all the way like i felt like i came into the fake realization late because i wouldn't me and my friend had this fight about trees she was like about fake and i was like no it's all about real and so my my argument was what her argument was is that you should not

be chopping down any trees for no reason and then my argument back to her was, bitch we planted these trees before the Christmas tree. Like how you planted the corn to eat it bitch. But what can you imagine what you're doing with this land instead of planting trees. But my thought was like.

My thought was kind of nihilistic and i was like capitalism is going to capitalism, so it's going to be it's going to just be land for fucking trees that are for fucking chopping down yeah it's going to be like how every time you go to the fucking call it carlsbad caverns to see all those tulips bitch what are those tools for to be chopped the fuck down to be sold, the fuck you think same thing with the christmas trees yeah so and then i told her to also like

bitch the chemicals that you make for these plastic trees are fucking far worse than trees that you chop down biodegrade the end and then you have this plastic that you're making for these trees that stay in the earth blah blah blah it's kind of like in my opinion my humble opinion i just felt like it was either or at the time but we have a plastic tree now because my boyfriend my fiancee has a plastic tree and so now we do never chop down trees so just so you know you were converted I mean,

I would love a real tree there's just a lot of work it's too much work it's too much work and you gotta worry about catching on fire no thank you I gotta I mean I feel like less likely with plastic but I feel a real tree is way easier if you dry it out and if you really want to be better.

Fuck a tree all the way around right just get just the stencil, oh yeah I see like some kind of TikTok videos like they just put it in the corner just do a little nice little zigzag know some shit on that bitch and call it a day. Get you a nice clean corner.

I feel like yeah like after like i've experienced the fake tree it's like yeah definitely much easier no no cleanup no mess no fuss exactly you don't have to pay no no more monies but you are so poisoning the planet well no you're not fuck that i don't know anymore no because you just putting it in the fucking garage i don't put it back in the box well this i'm a i'm afraid to admit this but when i was like almost probably what like five years after college i didn't have a christmas tree so i

end up getting a charlie brown tree you know like the one like it's like on the fucking like x uh wood and then it's just that one fucking tree limb and that little fucking what's that ornament i put the gifts under there to myself you know rent electricity.

It's like merry christmas to me do you guys buy yourself a christmas present no i don't too bad like you buy yourself one oh no well i'm always buying myself presents telling myself it's for something like i'm definitely gonna buy myself so i already know that i'm gonna buy myself a quote-unquote christmas present this year like i already bought myself a birthday present this year like whatever the fuck i i think i bought my laptop and i told myself

it was a birthday present oh i do that shit i like i buy something big i'm like Like this is this present. Oh, okay. I think this year's Christmas present to the family, quote unquote, because me and my fiance both understand the money exchange gift phenomenon is stupid. So last year we bought ourselves a king size bed. We both went half on a bed. We said, we'll buy this instead of buying each other presents. Okay.

That's something big in the house, right? Okay. So this year, I think we're just going to buy ourselves a center console under the television. Okay. That's a cute tradition. Yeah, I like that. Buy something that you fucking need together. Do y'all need a TV console? Dumb shit. Yeah. Well, yeah. We need a TV console because we have the big screen on the wall, but there's literally nothing under it and a bunch of fucking wires. And I'm like. Oh. Fuck a wire. I need a console to hide that.

And also to store the multiple video game stations that we have accumulated. Noise. Noise. Do you and your husband have any traditions that you guys usually do around the holidays for Christmas? We usually get and we go ornament shopping. We buy one ornament that kind of like represents the year that we had. Oh, that's cute. So like when we got married, we got an ornament that was like a gay couple getting married.

Or when, yeah, so when we bought our house, we had a snow globe that had like a house in it. Oh, okay. So like whatever, we just buy whatever cream rates that year. So nice. We kind of, yeah, we do the same thing, yeah. I don't have nobody, so I don't, no way y'all looking at me. Like, yeah, I don't do shit like that. I'm good. I'll be at the bar. Do you do any solo traditions?

Daba. Daba. No, I don't have like, my traditions is pretty much, no. I feel like even when I was solo, I would have like something I would do. I mean, the things that I would do around the holidays would be basically what I would do on any holiday, which is. Masturbate to porn. Yep. Smoke, drink, masturbate, and go to sleep. I feel like when I was single I would go to my family's. So, like, that was where, like, my Christmas was and my holidays was always

with family. So, if I wasn't... So, I was never alone for the holidays. Like, even when I was across the country, I came home for the holidays. Oh, when you was a meditation? Mm-hmm. Yeah. But I feel like now... Like, if I were... I don't know. I never, like, had a holiday, like, alone. I don't know if I would, though. I don't know how that would happen. I don't know if I would. But also, it's just, like, whatever. Holidays are just, like,

holidays. Our days are just like another motherfucking day. As long as I'm above ground, I'm blessed. I'm good. I'm moving along. Because tomorrow is another day. I feel like one food that I try to always have is like a chocolate chip cookie. Because I like, I'm a basic bitch when it comes to food. But when I do my basic shit, I try to like basic it up in like the most fabulous way. Like by the most expensive basic thing.

You know what I mean? What, the chocolate chip is an expensive chocolate chip? Yeah, so buy a $20 chocolate chip cookie. That would be my way to zhuzh up something that I liked normally. And you don't want to give your cousin a gift? To make it special to myself. I don't know why. You want to give your cousin a gift? Are you trying over here buying $20 cookies? I'm just fucking with you. Okay, okay, let me think about it.

$20 cookie? Yes. but i know but i bet you that talk for yourself look i know that's right because i bet you that fucking cookie is that's a little motherfucker not me god damn you bitch not you confronting me with my own hypocrisies yeah i would yeah you know what i would rather buy myself a 20 chocolate chip cookie than buy somebody else a fucking gift, bitch yeah i would i would rather stand on it, but i also want to try this fucking cookie though i know

this sounds delicious i better do a lot for twenty dollars what'd you get it from whole food it's probably from whole foods or irwan the best chocolate chip cookie i've ever had whole foods honestly whole foods honestly does have a good they do they cook it's less than be good their chocolate chip cookie is good I don't shop at Erwan. Sprouts is chocolate chip cookie is whatever. The Trader Joe's salted chocolate chip cookie. Oh, those are good.

It's pretty decent, but it's not soft. It is a little bit chewy. It's a little bit harder chew. Hard. I want a soft chew. Yeah, I want that little. But the best recipe you will ever find for a chocolate chip cookie is the tasty.com, or you can look it up on YouTube, Tasty. They have the best chocolate chip cookie enter that website at your own risk yeah, I think I use Christmas just to be around people and good energy.

Yeah, because things slow down, right? Right, so this is like good vibes, good energy. I'm not trying to be at a family's member house who I don't get along with or somebody's house where I'm like, here we go again. No, I need to be with some good energy and good vibes. That's what Christmas is all about. I feel like everybody's vibes is good energy around like the Christmas season for some reason. Even like shitty people have like good vibes.

Because like when I have like a Christmas work party, like even my least favorite coworkers are like decent and like cheery. That's probably because they're getting a bonus. I don't know. Is it because it's like. But it's an excuse for shittiness. It doesn't, but they're still like, like their vibe is like, it's like more like vibrant.

Like it's less shitty than it usually is like they're even more like in a good mood i feel like which is interesting like what is it what is that about is it just like we're in like such like desperation of like the dead of winter that everyone's like trying to be on their like, we gotta put out some happy vibes is this like it's like trump era gonna be like christmas vibes where like we're all like so on like the brink that we

have to be happy yeah like christmas time I think it's more like Krampus time. Krampus, yeah. I do love a good Krampus. Yeah. I'm not down with the Krampus idea. Why not? I don't know. My coworker has told me about Krampus. I don't care about it. I don't want it. I don't need it. It seems like that would be right up your alley. You would think, right? Right. But no. You're like, nah. That's because someone told you about it. Probably because he told me about it.

Okay, do your own research and see how you feel. I did, but I don't care. He's like, still, no. You guys like that Krampus thing? I mean, shit. I think it's just like... Eat all them kids. Fuck all them kids. Eat them all. Disrespectfully.

Any other christmas vibes any other thoughts any other christmas thoughts we gotta wrap this up thoroughly we gotta bring it back for the folks spend christmas who with people who bring you joy, yeah let's let the doctor get some final notes so doctor let's say like you're on the brink on winter time okay because they say right it's very often sees no affective disorder, is that why people like is there a thing do you know about that like do you know any research

that actually correlates with like people always say like christmas is a time that people kill themselves allegedly right or the holidays are is that actually true do you know anything about that yeah well yeah i mean typically like holidays are rougher for people because there's a lot of like grief or a lot of trauma usually around the holidays so like that can be and then like there's seasonal affective disorder like changes in the weather because some people are sensitive

and they may not get enough sun i think that's more of an issue like in the midwest to the east coast but i know there's a lot of people who even in california still suffer from like sad but yeah there is a higher correlation of people unaliving themselves during like holiday seasons oh okay, damn there's another question that i had that was related.

But i think a lot a lot of it has to do with like grief and and loneliness you know because i think sometimes like people may not have family but, think the issue is not finding chosen family. And I think that's kind of a strength of the queer community is even though we may not have our bio family, or the family we grew up with, our family of origin, we tend to substitute and find chosen family. And I think sometimes people may not be able to do that.

Is there any suggestions that you have during the holidays for people who have not found chosen family? I mean, I think it's connecting. I think especially with the queer community there there are places who are open during thanksgiving and her offering like or like christmas or or around this holiday excuse me her offering community and and in spaces.

Yeah but yeah search out mr crystal there are no he's right there are places out there where you You can go and be a part of a community, even if you don't have anyone and need to be around some positivity and someone of the part of the community. I'm quite sure like the Long Beach LGBTQ Center may be doing something near the holidays and things of that nature.

So do your research and reach out. And if you have friends or people that you haven't spoke with in a while and you feel like you need to reach out, it's the time to be the bigger person because next year is going to be a whole fucking shit show. So it's time to put our big boy and big girl draws on and get yourself out there if you feel like you want to mend some form of relationships with individuals and be the bigger person if you want to.

And just like I said before, if you're the kind of person who's feeling any kind of anxiety or any kind of, like, bad feelings, maybe you should go to the LA Food Bank and volunteer. Because... Would be to volunteer your time for somebody else who needs it more. I don't know. The LA Food Bank, this is a non-paid advertisement for the LA Food Bank, is a place that you can go and volunteer to pack bags of food for homeless people.

If you see a homeless person on the street that you see every day, go into your own fucking closet, get some socks and underwear or a sweater that you never wear, put it in a bag, put it in your clothes.

Uh oh we're being abducted again find some find some of your old fashions bitch that you never fucking wear because you know you have a million fucking clothes in your closet and then put it in a fucking bag and put it in the fucking car and the next time you see that homeless person on the street give it to them because bitch you ain't doing shit with it anyways they could be warmer, do something for somebody else help other people there's a lot of fucking people

who need help It's not just you. We all need help. Help each other, girl. Any other thoughts? Any other winter thoughts besides warming up the community? Right. Double up. Yes. Also, in case anyone who is struggling with suicidal ideation or need someone to talk during the holidays, you can dial 988 here in California.

988 for suicidal ideation? Yeah. Or if there's a crisis hotline, you just need someone to talk to during holidays because you think of harming yourself or feeling down or feeling you are on the brink. You can just call this hotline and there'll be someone to answer and be there for you. There's a lot of. There is a lot of things that you can do besides harming yourself. Eat chocolate. Drink wine. Come over here trying to listen to this conversation.

I'm trying to listen to it too. Let's go ahead and wrap this up. All right, everybody. Anyways. Yes, if you are feeling down, there are resources for you. If you are feeling shitty, like I just said, there are resources for you. There are things you can do. Treat yourself, as they say. And the more you treat yourself, the more you treat others. And the more you treat others, the more you treat the world. And the more you treat the world, the more you treat yourself.

Isn't that right it's a 360 baby it's a 360 everything is interconnected okay let God use you this winter time folks I think you all are very strong I think you are all very secure I think you all have the wherewithal to battle the next year anyways, you're good enough you're smart enough and doggone it People like you. Music. Good night. Merry Christmas. Good night. Happy holidays. Ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho. What'd you call me? Merry Christmas. Music.