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Podcast i'm nino local construction daddy and podcast fatty my pronouns are he him thank you for asking i have with me here my fabulous cohorts what's up this christoph here long beach top liaison my pronouns are he him and that motherfucker dr mikey here your professional piece muscle tell me all your secrets my pronouns are he she all of them uh what you got for us today nino oh you know just some quick tea and queer events quick tea and queer events quick

tea and queer events quick tea and queer events queer queer queer take a sip take a sip you big stupid bitch all right so this is the quick tea and the queer events this is where we get into the l g b and the t of it all sometimes we get a little ku too if you know what i mean i know what you mean girl so what the queen's talking about today this week today this week.

Today and gay dominica decriminalizes same-sex activity with landmark ruling, today in homophobia grinder sued after allegedly sharing users private information including hiv v status iraq passes extreme new anti-lgbtq plus law barking international backlash lgbtq plus employees at the smithsonian say the institution is canceling drag events, also in homophobia a new tennessee law allows people with anti-lgbtq plus beliefs to adopt queer and trans kids today

in transphobia marietta valley defies state order to rescind districts outing policy do any of you queens know about any of these things i don't. Second let's get into it i'm gonna talk about grinder so this is from gcn.ie, Grinder, known for being the world's largest LGBTQ plus dating app, has been sued after allegedly releasing users' HIV status and other personal information to third parties, breaking UK data policy laws. Oh, so I guess this is in the, obviously.

The case was taken by the law firm Austin Hayes and was lodged at the High Court in London. It alleged that covert tracking technology was used to share sensitive personal information that breached British data protection. Austin Hayes states as of now there are over 650 claimants and thousands of UK users could be affected.

Claimants? The lawsuit alleges that the content related to users' HIV status and their last HIV test was illegally shared between Grindr and companies including Aptimize and Localytics from 2018 to 2020. Grindr changed its consent mechanisms in 2020, so users who join the app after that will most likely not be affected by this claim.

According to Austin Hayes, if this case succeeds, claimants may receive thousands of pounds, with the BBC stating that the law firm hopes to claim more than £100,000 in compensation. Grinder says it will respond vigorously to the claims, with spokespersons saying that the company takes privacy extremely seriously.

No, you don't. You fucking don't, Grinder. this is like a millionth time that you have not been taking users privacy seriously how do you let this go for two years like who's not doing their job what the fuck they're off this is their job selling data that makes sense if i'm making more money selling data than getting that case hooked up that's true yeah selling my hiv status for what some of these what truvada can sell to me, i don't know what they sell right it don't even make no fucking sense

but this ain't that's like you said this ain't the fucking first time i don't think it's gonna be the last like i get this is in the uk but i mean this is grinder and they're probably doing this everywhere i mean everywhere yeah let's see they added that the claim appears to be based on a mischaracterization of practices from more than four years ago okay because we don't even want to take responsibility of accountability

for something that happened in the past right four years ago like so much fucking bullshit has changed four years ago like it didn't come out back then bitch happened four years ago what are you talking about.

Let's see the lawyer leading the case said grinder owes it to the lgbtq plus mutiny lgbtq plus community it serves to compensate those whose data is has been to compensate those whose data has been compromised, adding that her clients experience significant distress over their highly sensitive and private information being shared without their consent. Of course, this isn't the first time that Grindr has faced backlash for sharing users' HIV status to third-party companies.

In 2018, there was a report published by Norwegian researchers stating that Grindr had been sharing personal information and the app was fined in 2021 for violating the General Data Protection Regulation. Grindr claimed the selling of information to these companies was in line with industry standards and it was being sold to monitor the app and enhance users' experience. They claim to stop sharing information. User experience?

Okay. Help with the user experience. Girl, unless you're putting more bottoms and tops out there, you're not enhancing this user experience.

So that's not helping people the fuck the fuck yeah isn't so crazy like i don't think people really grasp that concept like that it was like oh the industry industry standards which tells me that companies are just selling our data and information according to their standards like what if i want none of my shit out there i don't get a say because they come up with the standards is that like a hippo violation because it's probably all in

the terms and conditions when we always be like okay they're like well you put it on there it's like fuck that's some bullshit i mean that's kind of very strange grinder currently has an estimated 13 million monthly users and claims to be the largest social networking app for bi gay trans and queer people that's some like rainbow washing right there social networking i know, how much networking is really going on on grinder i'm not that social on there,

i don't even got the app so maybe i'll download it that's weird and creepy and weird and creepy yeah. Yeah, I don't fuck with grinders, so I really ain't got no frog in this race. Yeah, I haven't been on since, like, back in the day when I was single anyway, so I'm like, I care. But, I mean, not that I don't care, because obviously this is affecting people. That's weird. I know your business. Why are y'all asking for users' HIV statuses?

Because you put it on your profile, whether you're negative or positive.

No, I mean, like, companies. like as a company like why are you even needing this information oh yeah what other hiv statuses we'd like just to know to enhance your user experience experience dot dot dot it's probably to for marketing right i mean because grander makes his money selling data obviously but also ads i don't know because i feel like i still get targeted ads for like truvada or not truvada but But I get targeted ads for like HIV medications.

Yeah, and all that stuff. And I don't have it. But I think it's just like any kind of gay content. But they know I'm a gay person. Right, they're just going to go ahead and throw that out there. So they're like, there you go. So why even sell it? So why even sell it if it's going to be gay content is going to make you get those ads or marketing material anyway? Why sell the fucking data? They swear like they're getting so like razor sharp with their ads.

Ads like oh we're gonna specifically only sell this ad to people we already know have hiv due to the data we have collected about them like you don't do that so why are you even asking it makes no sense i'll tear your eyes anyways oh so did y'all hear about that well of course we didn't hear about it because we just.

The Tennessee Department of Children's Services has scraped a policy that require adoptive families to care for child with dignity and respect, regardless of their sexual orientation or gender identity, following the passage of a new religious freedom law this month.

On April 11th, Republican Governor Bill Lee signed the Tennessee Foster and Adoptive Parent Protection Act, which prohibits DCH, no, DCS from requiring adoptive or foster families to affirm, accept or support a policy regarding LGBTQ plus identity if it conflicts with the sincerely held religious belief.

Under the law, DSC may not deny in application based on the applicant's religious belief and further asserts that even if someone holds openly anti LGBTQ plus beliefs being placed in their home would not be contrary to the best interests of the child. There are more than 6,000 youths currently in the state foster care system, according to the one department estimate who will be effective when the law takes effect July 1st.

Since the law's passage, the Tennessee Lookout report this week, DSC officials will no longer mandate care that promotes dignity and respect for all children, youth and families, regardless of gender or sexuality. The spokesman, the spokesperson, Ashley, told The Lookout that the agency's policies for LGBTQ plus youth are now under review and will be updated on the website once review is complete. But prior to this legislation, Ashley.

DSS home study process included asking prospective foster and adoptive parents a series of questions to identify their placement preferences, including questions about willingness to parent an LGBTQ plus child. A department spokesperson clarified in a statement to the lookout. Our goal always is to find the most appropriate placement to meet the unique needs of each child in our care.

As the lookout noted, the law has made Tennessee the first state in the nation to explicitly allow anti-LGBTQ plus adults to adopt queer and trans youth. Supporters of the law, like its author, Mary Littleton, have claimed it does not discard the values and beliefs of the child. It will lead to better placements for children and increased interest in adoptions or fostering among religions families.

But lgk2 plus advocates and it's really fucking mind-boggling backwards like land like so it's like pointing out that it's no longer required that the state to consider a child's preference either so what really said what's really said about this is that there's a really high volume of lgk2 plus kids in the foster system who needs aren't being met now the executive director stated Molly Quinn of the LGBTQ plus nonprofit out Memphis told that look out this week.

The fact that the state would accept a family that is willing to discriminate into this broken system with such vulnerable kids is difficult to understand. Multiple studies have indicated that roughly one third of youth in state foster systems across the U.S. Are LGBTQ plus. Plus, a 2021 survey by the Traver Project found that 4.1 percent of LGBTQ plus youth reported having been in foster care at some point in their lives compared to 2.6 of the general adult population.

They go about this in a little bit more depth, but Tennessee's laws are just getting out of fucking hand. First of all, do you know how many like if you have a person who wants to adopt a child or foster a child who is anti-LGBTQ+, how are you going to make sure that child is safe? Y'all rarely do home visits. You rarely. I mean.

It's a fucking formula for disaster they're like they're like you can abuse these children that's basically that's basically what is given off because if a person say that you know. Anti-lgbtq plus and then you're going to be able to have the a queer or trans child in your home yeah so then now even with the laws that y'all try to pass a couple of months ago with the Furman Care. Now, if that child isn't that child's parent, legally, it's still the states.

But if they assist, they can still be fined. I mean, imagine, like, the worst case scenario would be, like, you're a gay kid or trans kid.

And then a crazy fucking Christian family decides, I want to take this kid and Christify them and fucking conversion therapy-ize them because you know what they've just lived this fucked up life and that's why they're gay or trans and they just need to get straightened out and i'm gonna help this person yeah look at let me read this paragraph that's in this article i don't think it's towards the end and it's this and exactly what you're saying christian

adoption rights have long been a major priority among far-right fundamentalist christians and anti-lgbtq plus organizations like the alliance defending vending freedom have lobbied for more laws like tennessee's for decades decades evangelicals have touted adoption as a way to save children in both body and soul raising further concerns about the industry with already dubious ethics leaders in the quiver full evangelical movement which encourages families

to birth and raise as many christian children as possible to serve in god's army have embraced international and domestic adoption as another way to maximize its juvenile recruits numerous adoption programs in tennessee's cater specifically to evangelicals such as a gape agape agape agape a nashville-based organization with programs that include recruiting training preparing christian families to further their original goal of finding christian homes for

orphaned children, according to its website. I... well... You're right. Well, I think maybe if... Hopefully, if you're a gay or trans kid, and you're like... You look like how a gay person on TV looks like and you have like a rainbow T-shirt and they walk. I don't know how adoption works. Is it like they go in and they see the kids and they pick them out or like how does it even work? No, it's a process. So you fill out an application through the Department of Children's Services.

Then they vet the family. And then once that family is vetted through their system and approved, then they, the Department of Children's Services will. Will, I guess they may have like some kind of formula of like what child goes to who, but they go off based on what they want.

Like if they want a baby, an infant, an adult, they go off what their preference is and then whatever's available or what child is up for adoption or to be fostered, they would just go through an interview process and that caseworker would bring that child to their home and do like, you know, they have like, I don't want to say case studies, but they will have visits.

Visits and see if it and then I believe it's going to be ultimately that case managers or that liaison with the state decision if that child will go to that family because I don't think the family have the, final say so yeah they have the final say so but the state could not get that right yeah but I mean I guess if they are like.

Being like, no, it's fine. Go ahead. Go ahead and be in the, like, so that sounds like either, like you said, like we're, the system is being overwhelmed with LGBTQ plus kids that I guess nobody wanted.

And also they don't feel like paying for them. So they're just like, well, if we can unload more by like letting more people adopt them by like lowering the bar of acceptability for people who are allowed to take these children right well and i'm thinking that they took that probably it really didn't make sense the law itself because i don't even know how the process is going to work so like i guess they took that option off the application i don't know how in

reality how that would have worked that the law states that it's removing or allowing they're allowing anti-lgbtq plus people to because i'm how would you put that in a fucking application or would it be like during the vetting process yeah during the interview you're like oh are you anti-lgbtq plus because this kid is gay how would you feel about like adopting or fostering a queer kid yeah hell no and they're like well you're getting one anyway like yeah the fuck you're

the odd couple now that is true i wonder how they do bet that right now maybe well i would imagine what would happen if if they didn't bet it then like the kid will go in their experience anti-lgb they get like.

Traumatized and and then they're gonna they're still in contact with the social worker so they can contact social worker and tell them what's up and i imagine without this law like the social worker come and try to like facilitate something but now like it doesn't even matter like Like, the parents can do whatever they want. Yeah, so if they complain, like, I'm being abused by my anti-gay parent, they're like, well...

Suck it up yeah but also that's unethical if that social worker practices it that way because like that's not according to ethics like it's do no harm and part of the process is knowing that like that is like an emotional abuse so like there's no like that is like reportable you know or you know could be seen as reportable but you will also think that their motto excuse me is basically to put a child in a safe environment and home so if you're forcing a child

to be in a family that has anti-lgbtq beliefs yeah then you're setting that child up for fucking failure oh definitely i mean i can imagine that there's just like probably people out there who don't give a fuck yeah yeah and that's why like are we gonna make these kids become on house like Like, of all the youth out here, like, the last statistic I heard was 40% of youth that are homeless is LGBTQ.

That's a huge amount, you know, disproportionate. So, you're either going to make them unhoused or you're going to make them unalive themselves, you know, or have severe trauma.

Mama yeah i know at least i feel like one two three people in high school that i knew, like definitely were kicked out of their homes for like when they had come out and if their family fell out they were gay and it's like where they lived like was just always up in the air and he really didn't know where they were staying at and it's like i feel like it's super common it's so common for parents just to be like fuck you bye right, yeah fuck them i mean next

depressing topic i know so ridiculous but why are these christians coming after us i'm just trying to live my best gay life i think i de-radicalized another christian though at my job good what'd you tell him he just experienced me.

Realized how cool what's wrong about you nothing okay well it's good what about some good news dominica decriminalizes same-sex activity with landmark ruling yeah yeah so april 22nd the high court of dominica overturned a ban on same-sex activity between consenting adults which was found to be in violation of the country's constitution surprise surprise the case was brought before the court by an unnamed gay man living in

dominica the claimant urged that the sexual offenses act a law first introduced during british colonial rule in the 1800s and retained after independence contravened his constitutional rights in his claimancy the law condemned him to live in constant fear of criminal sanction for engaging in consensual sexual activity and that indicated hateful and violent conduct towards him and other LGBT persons, which prevented them from living and expressing themselves freely and in dignity.

Can I suck my dick in public? Yeah. With a landmark decision delivered on Monday, the High Court ruled that Sections 14 and 16 of the Sexual Offenses Act act violate rights enshrined in dominican constitution namely the right to liberty freedom of expression and protection of personal privacy all right good for y'all it's my private life right leave me alone go dominica right i was actually i was curious about when that got like banned here in us and that was actually very

recent for us too i think it was was like 2003 where all bands on like there was estates that still had bands on uh what do they call it like sodomy or some shit sodomy sodomy laws yeah fucking a so like i i try not to i like praise when countries change it and it's because i realized that like we like not we the u.s took a very long time to fix themselves but they're still hateful and we're still unfixing ourselves yeah.

Marietta Marietta we don't know her, think i went to a wedding in marietta marietta valley defies state order to rescind district's outing policy by q voice new anti-lgbtq plus supporters cheered and applauded the marietta valley school board on thursday when it defied a state order and and the advice of its own staff and reiterated its support for the district's parental notification policy which requires Requires school employees to notify parents when students change their gender identity.

The forced outing policy, which the board vetoed 3-2 to keep, mandates that administrators. Teachers, and counselors must notify parents or guardians in writing within three days after any district employee has learned that a student is requesting to be identified or treated as a gender other than the student's biological sex or gender listed on the student's birth certificate or any other gender.

Official records let's be clear the three extremist board members who endorsed this policy and reinstated it last night's intend last night intend for our lgbtq plus students to live in fear said karen poznanski language arts and social studies teacher at dorothy mckinley mckinley mckinley at dorothy mckinley middle school and vocal opponent of the policy After the board was notified that the district was being investigated by state and federal agencies for discrimination relating to the policy,

it considered rescinding the policy during a special school board meeting March 28. Instead, the topic was tabled for discussion with the district's attorneys. The parental notification policy was approved in August, and an investigation earlier this month by the State Board of Education found that the rules were discriminatory and illegal.

The Board of Education ordered the district to rescind the policy, and two days later, district administration sent out unsigned notice from the Marietta Valley USD administrative team that appeared to comply with the state directive. District administrators had placed an item on Thursday's agenda to receive the parent notification policy entirely, but to allow the issue to be addressed later.

But then the school board dug in its heels, and the board's attitude indicates that these religious and anti-LGBTQ plus extremists want the state to take this issue to the courts, perhaps even hoping it makes its way to the Supreme Court. Of course. Oh, let's see. The Murrieta Valley policy mirrors a forced outing policy passed by the Chino Valley School District.

But State Attorney General Rob Bonta has sued that district, saying the policy violates the Equal Protection Clause and the right to privacy of the California Constitution, as well as the state's education code that protects students against discrimination. After analyzing data provided by the FBI, the Washington Post found that school hate crimes quadrupled in states with laws targeting LGBTQ plus community, indicating that the consequences of these policies put LGBTQ plus students at risk.

It's worth noting that two of the three murrieta school board members who voted to uphold the forced outing policy all right murrieta residents are encouraged to correct misinformation and vote for candidates who will represent all students in the district not discriminate who will obey the laws of the state that's crazy like what the fuck like how how can you serve on a board and like.

Like violate federal state laws when we already like said that we weren't gonna do that right yeah and and like get away with it like what's the punishment then mm-hmm you could get kick them off the board i mean i guess it sounds like they've like i don't know mutinied yeah they really did right like how did like okay so it also says like once they have learned that the student is going by another gender or whatever. And it's like, what does that even mean?

Because like, if I'm like a stupid, I'm a student. If you're a dumb ass student and you go and fucking tell the teacher, Oh, that person is trans just to tell them that that means that that just because they told that teacher that now you're going to have a whole investigation on you because somebody just told them that you're trans. Hmm. I think, I wonder if it's that student has to come to them and tell them a change in name and pronouns.

I mean, I would. I hope. But like, this is also a very extreme law. So I'm sure it's written to be very open up to interpretation. Yeah. Like they always are. But I feel like kids today are going to be smart and try to like just hopefully in a sense overwork their ass.

So now you gotta so you want to oh you want to investigate now every hour everybody every student gonna go up to a teacher great protest right go up to a teacher and say that person trans, 10 minutes later that person call everybody's mom and dad now now you got a fucking class full of investigations and we'll be over here chilling because i mean that it sounds that sounds like a witch hunt yeah so and you know what that's and that's what it seems like they that's

what they want but shit i feel like these kids today like because it's the whole school board i mean the whole school county right it's just not like for a particular grade it's the whole so i know like high school students and shit like they already see what the world is coming in there so if they start that shit and start doing it like you know right you know what that let's protest and we're gonna do it that way since you say that every time someone says this you have to investigate,

that's so fucking crazy and now you got a school full of what most schools in that area probably got a population in a good class grade probably a lot of good thousand probably now you got a thousand investigations damn now do your work. That's so crazy fucking marietta yeah but yeah it's ridiculous i think. And I feel like a lot of parents jump onto this because it's like, oh, like, you're parenting for us.

Like, I think, what's it, right-wingers are so worried about having, as parents, their rights violated and parenting taken away from them. Yeah. And, like, I think they see that as this, is, like, their kid's not telling them anything. But I think a better question to ask yourself is, like, why isn't my kid coming to me first? Like, obviously they feel school is safer than they are with you.

Right? That's true. like like we said before like i'm pretty sure you would fucking know that your kid is trans, like unless they're like secretly being trans at school which like if you have a like we said before also like if your school's that homophobic or transphobic yeah i think they're really gonna feel so comfortable at the school that that's what they're doing there ridiculous yeah also like fuck you like why does the teacher need to be fucking the trans police the fuck.

Oh they gotta be the the security guard and trans please right it's like they report fucking anything else these motherfuckers less than everybody else so y'all want you to do everybody's job except theirs which is to teach yeah and mold the minds of youth but you want to do everything motherfucking else and still pay them and it's not like it's like when their kids are being bullied they fucking speak up to anybody and nothing

happens right yeah it's like you're doing any good for these fucking students true yeah the other statistic in this this thing stood out to me was that like the rates of hate crime are higher where there's these anti-gay laws right and like i don't know like obviously it doesn't shock us because we know there's a, correlations causation you know we said it before yeah but it's also like it's like it's so sad this is why we need like critical race theory it's all connected right like

people make these laws it creates hate it creates discrimination that we have to face you know and then the only cure to that is to teach people to educate people it's not indoctrinating it's just telling them the fucking truth but y'all want to get your panties in the twist about critical race theory right but But it's needed because with hate, like, you just create more discrimination. Come on, y'all. Idiots. Fucking hate them. And then the shit like next Benedict happens.

Yes. Mm-hmm. Fucking assholes. Ugh. Go protest, y'all. Just any of the good, happy news out there. Oh. I don't know if this is happy. I think this is happy adjacent. That article you sent us about Darren Cross. Is he not gay? No, he's straight. He's married. Culturally queer, bitch. Well, but that article was click baiting.

Like if you read the full article, he was basically saying that he has so many icons that he look up to and was able to, based off his career and looked at a lot of gay icons okay and which mold his career and he owes all that to the lgbtq plus community because he was like when i was acting and whatnot you know like those are the people that i looked up to looked up to and you know like channeled and and whatnot so i was like oh okay go off queen all right you can be.

You can get it right you can be culturally queer and he's also like giving back to the community too right yeah because he's pretty fuckable okay i do that's the only criteria right go off sis oh man uh the last one is a sad one iraq iraq i didn't yeah y'all want to talk about it go for it open so not me reading the articles you did enough work i just round them up on saturday april 27 adoc passed a new anti-lgbtq plus law criminalizing

same-sex relationships and transgender identities the law on combating prostitution and homosexuality dang they're real blatant. We are combating you fags i mean what's passed as an amendment to the country's existing anti-prostitution legislation sorry.

Combating homosexuals it reportedly claims to protect Iraqi society from moral depravity and the calls for homosexuality that have overtaken the world the so called morality law makes same sex relationships punishable to 10 to 15 years in prison you gonna send them to jail together and not work, is that like every single relationship is that like an extra like oh so i had like three boyfriends in my imagine so that's like doubles the sentence triples

it what if you're like polly oh my god you're like just life sentence.

While those found guilty of the intentional practice of effeminacy oh my god or underdoing undergoing or performing gender transition surgeries faced between one to three years of incarceration effeminacy bitch how the policing keep that that wrist straight of feminacy combating homosexuality the new law also includes a seven-year prison sentence for anyone including allies who promote same-sex relations who use dangerous traits

like okay even here the allies don't promote right the most straight people do to promote gay things is watching drag race and going to the abbey.

So earlier version of the bail included a clause calling for the death penalty for same-sex relations but this clause was omitted in an amendment following the following opposition from europe and the u.s while a new law is less extreme than originally intended it will undoubtedly inevitably cause harm damn dang i mean i'm not going to talk shit on iraq, because we're just as terrible i mean this is terrible but like we're anti-gay

as well not to this extreme and obviously on the spectrum but like i have no reason to talk shit saying my country is anything better i have no reason to talk shit only for the fact that i would have assumed that this was the norm already i did not actually expect this to have not been a law but i am very saddened that it is now a law because obviously our gay and trans brethren and sisters are going to be under attack right that's very fucked up and sad, Damn EDAC. It's like a dick. Bugger.

In anything else? Any other? Long Beach Pride is coming up.

May 18th is the parade, but I think it's going to be a lot of festivals and a lot of, I guess, little knickknacks throughout the city during that week. I'm looking forward to be back in May so we can jump it off.

Do you want to plug yourself? no because i don't know the details oh maybe we'll have those details by the end of the show we could make some that's fun i unfortunately won't be here for pride oh i'm gonna be in these streets and hopefully put somebody's son in a headlock i went i told that to a straight female email and, she was very concerned she was like why, don't talk to them why would you do that I was like it was more of a sexual

manner she's like oh okay you're like I'm in with my legs bitch I don't think you're a fighter you're so lovable like I was like yeah I'm not gonna girl get out of here it was funny though I immediately imagined your legs when you said headlock.

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And we're back so today i wanted to talk about positions specifically sides well not specifically all of them top bottom verse side up down northwest you've undoubtedly heard of this new position called sides is that even new anymore. On Grindr? Do they actually have that on there? I've seen it on like Sniffies. I don't know about Grindr. They probably have Sides on Grindr too.

Well, today we find out. Are our hosts tops, bottoms, verse, or side? Do you feel confined to label yourself? What do you guys think about this whole thing? Tops, bottoms, labels, etc. I don't even know what it is. So the term side was coined in 2013 by the sex therapist and author, Dr. Joe Court. But only in the last year has it gained glimmers of acknowledgement in the wider gay world.

18 months ago, Dr. Court made a private Facebook group page called Side Guys to give the man a forum for acceptance and perhaps to start a movement. I wanted to create a community, he said. I wanted to help people get rid of the loneliness and the shame.

Name what sides has wait he said sides have always been here i've been calling myself that for 50 years things been slowly for the group with the members first joining by the tens and then by the hundreds in the last eight months however membership has doubled to reach 5 000 membership posts by sides young and old come from around the world get it court said most of the men had found their way to the group via the TikTok video he has created to spread the word.

Other men have been fashioning their own informational videos on TikTok, including the model Barrett Paul, who has 1.4 million followers on the site. And another breakthrough, Wikipedia recently added a size definition to its terminology of homosexuality.

At the same time, the L.A. based gay comedian Michael Henry has created a hilarious but sympathetic mock tutorial on sides that has earned more than 224 000 youtube views in the last few weeks so no wait i don't oh this dr joe court um you want to see him yeah okay daddy he looks like a side but like but he and technically he still ain't mentioned what it is yet so that's what we're trying to find like what From what I understand the side to be is someone who just engages in like oral sex.

Who's laying by your side. Yeah, laying by your side. You want to get sucked and you want to suck other guys. Yeah, like a little size 69. Or even just jerking each other off. Oh, yeah. Or even just like touching each other. Non-penetrative. Even sucking their titties. Mm-hmm. And not actually like doing penetrative sex. Because I think, yeah, like, I feel like people definitely define sex as penetrative sex. Yeah, definitely. As, like, dick going in whole. Mm-hmm.

And it can be so much more than that. And I think that's what the side is. Mm-hmm. I feel like the first time I experienced, like, a side guy, like, I remember was, like, this guy. He came to my house. And he was, like, I guess in an open relationship is what he told me.

Mm-hmm. and that he doesn't really have sex he said with guys that he just like enjoys like body contact and like basically just like being on each other and then like i guess like jerking off to it and so i was like oh interesting so then like we he basically was like we basically were just like making out and then he basically was just like getting on top of me or like wanting me to get on top of him and just like basically like enjoying each other's like body pressure basically on top of

each other and like that being the sexual experience is like us just like touching, just like being like yeah just like body contact on each other yeah and just like i don't know like, enjoying that and i was like oh that's really interesting i found definition all right go so basically, court offered this definition sides prefer to kiss hug and engage in oral sex, rimming.

Mutual masturbation and rubbing up and down on each other to name just a few of the sexual activities they enjoy these men enjoy practically every sexual practice aside from anal penetration of any kind so damn I might be a side now that I think about it, my boyfriend labeled himself i don't i'm not i don't even bottom so i'm a top technically but maybe can i be a top side probably top sometimes i mean if i hear somebody.

You hear the lbc right when the bottom calls for it you'll talk to me right yeah, I like this idea because as you're explaining it and giving the definition, it just reminds me of how this whole top-bottom mentality and being so focused on penetrative sex is really linked to heterosexuality. Like a binary. Yeah, like a very binary. And sides are here to bust that down. No pun intended. Sides are revolutionary.

Revolutionary yeah sides are revolutionary it's true though because it does feel like yeah if there is no penetrative sex then like people don't count it right like even like, when you are like this just even when you're talking with your friends about like a sexual like escapade like if you if you didn't actually like fuck yeah like you like you kind of don't count it right yeah that's like being like you went all the way okay i've been saying that all

my life and it was like i would tell my friends like when i would like hook up yeah, and it was like oh like so you fucked i was like no i don't consider that fucking, on that side yeah right they're like well then i guess you didn't do nothing right and then it's like not considered yeah the same it's like lesser you know what i think it is i think people like separate sex from intimacy when and instead like sex is on the spectrum of intimacy.

And maybe it's on one side and maybe like sides are kind of like on the other side are bridging it together but like maybe sex is an umbrella term of it you know it's just on the spectrum, yeah because i feel like i had that like mentality too where like i was looking at like like penetrative sex as being like the only thing that's counting as sex and like i was like like, thinking about that, like, for a long time, and then I'm, like, realized,

like, wait a minute, like, I'm still getting off if I'm not having the dick in the butt, and we're still, like, having intimacy. So, like, what am I, like...

Pretending like i'm not getting something right when you are it's true so i feel like i was focused on that for a long time too and thinking like that it was like a problem but then realizing like wait i still have a lot of sexual intimacy with my partner it's just not so when you was thinking if it was a problem were you thinking it was a problem because like oh well shit like we're not having a lot of sex so maybe something is going wrong or like was you just yeah like that yeah so like

society uh-huh but the reality was it was like only penetrative sex and it was like but the reality was like we were still doing doing everything else intimacy is so then it made me feel like we had something less oh okay because you're hearing like other people's stories yeah and thinking like oh well like if you're not doing like the penetrative part then it doesn't mean the same thing even though it does right so you can even look at some of the people who because people will prefer intimacy

over sex yeah or sex over intimacy so let's say for instance so somebody who's wanting more sex would be classified as a in the the gay world a cum dump.

So that that person really don't want the intimacy yeah you know what i'm saying they just won't they just won't to get they just want sex i don't want to see your face i ain't got to know your name i ain't got to know none of that and some people prefer that over intimacy i on the other hand i will prefer intimacy over just sex i mean i'd prefer them both but together right I like mine intertwined together, That's interesting I guess I didn't think about it that way either Like intimacy

and sex As being like different Because I definitely have a lot of intimacy, With my boyfriend Which one do you prefer Doc? What of the positions? Well, I mean, both. All of it. Intimacy or sex or what position? Well, I guess I would identify as a verse bottom, I guess. I'll talk sometimes when the occasion calls for it or when I get the urge. But I think I'm more focused on penetrative sex.

I think that's what I prefer. just because like compared to like like oral sex or like jerking off i don't know like i just feel like i have like a way better orgasm with penetrative sex would you identify as a cum dump.

No i would not identify i've never been a cum dump ever been a cum dump not like how it's been on like i see on like twitter where it's like these like 20 and like 30 guys or like okay you know like these guys in a row like you're posted up in a hotel room like no so you've just been like a cum train yeah we're like like maybe like maybe at most maybe like three or four loads i've gotten oh okay yeah i feel like it's a pretty cum dumpy cum dumpy i have never come up with jason any inside of me.

So you beat me and you you beat me oh you already said you were a top yeah yeah i'm gonna classify myself as a top side i feel like i was like identify i feel like i've gone in flux i've like gone through like the bar or i feel like no i mean like i used to super identify as like top only and then i ended up even though i would still bottom but i would only identify as a top on the apps also use one of them, but then i wouldn't really do a lot of sex penetrative

sex on apps either i would purposely only like get blowjobs as like my act of like staying safe as my act of abstinence i always felt like once i get the blowjob i might as well just go ahead and do the whole damn dying system some right you don't say it like shit giving head is an appetizer like that's just like you're just tasting it you know like just a little like for me at least like right for me it's kind of like this is how we go and this is like a little like heavy foreplay you

know well it's more like a face fucking okay okay okay but yeah and then like i think. I don't know. I feel like I was actually always really more versed, if anything. Because I remember with my first boyfriend, we were constantly just like flip-flopping. Oh, okay. And then my second boyfriend identified as a bottom only. But then he ended up topping me during the end of our relationship, even though we never had any sex ever. We didn't even have that much intimacy or nothing. Nothing. Nothing.

So you're saying you're going to tap this one more left time. Well, that was the first and last, huh? That's strange.

And then me and my boyfriend are more like started out as like kind of basically started out verse and now we're kind of just like sides we're old men who can't be getting in them positions anymore, about to fuck up my lord back yeah evolution of but i also still will like randomly like stick a dildo with my butt when the mood strikes after a long day what else about this damn but also what okay i was trying to look it up but

it wasn't on there so a baiter is just a masturbator yeah oh okay because i know sometimes i see those like when When people say, oh, like, into baiting or baiter. I was like, oh, I really didn't know what that was. So it's just like, oh, okay. But that's also a gateway. Why don't you just, like, jerking off or whatever? Right. Baiting. Because I feel like when, like, the baiter connotation is that, like, you're going to be, like, edging and, like, jerking.

It's like a marathon, like, long type of thing, I think. Oh, okay. Are you guys into that?

No. i mean i haven't gave it a try right i always found it because i'm like i just want to come as fast but i think i think it's more of a like a i think it's probably sensual like i think it's more of that type of at least from the videos i've seen my friend he used to he tried to like, get me into the idea of like doing edging and he was he was like definitely like promoting edging like to people basically like edging is the best so he basically said like

yeah he's just like jerking off but then like stopping right before he comes and i constantly just doing that over and over again because like he says like the actual final orgasm that you have is like way more intense yeah crazy but i'm like no that just hurts more in the end and like that's probably true i'm just gonna hurt my i just want to come fast and go to sleep.

Yes go to sleep, I'm trying to see what other, like, so with that being aside, I wonder, like, a side would probably also like to go to, like, a bathhouse and just be, like, one of those mouths in a hole. Mm-hmm. But no, because you still want to touch and do all the other stuff. Or even, like, a lawyer standing and watching. Right. Yeah. Standing right next to you. Just whispering in your ear. Grabbing on your butt. Position. Oh. How? Okay. This is a good question.

What's the longest time you fucked like hours on hours or was you know is this like, continuous penetration or is this like wait i don't think that can always happen i'm talking about like a marathon of sexual like we fucked from like five to like two in the morning and And it's just like, you know, you take a little breather, take a little shot, drink a little something, get back to it. Actually, my current boyfriend is the person who I have had the longest marathon sex with.

And it was like when we were broken, we broke up and then we ended up like hooking back up.

And it was the first night we hooked back up. and it was literally from the moment i got there was like i don't know it had to be like nine or ten and then literally saw the fucking sun coming up from the fucking curtains and we were just like fucking around the entire night and it was just like drinking and then fucking around, and i was like what the fuck i was like we literally spent the whole night, literally just fucking around and like we did not like go to sleep we did not

pause except for only to get more alcohol and that was crazy damn.

I don't know it's been hours not like an all-night thing okay i remember one time i had this guy like taught me like non-stop for like two hours yeah yeah definitely need to take a break after that, oh yeah but i think like continuous yeah like i think with my partner like our our sex is long i don't know time it but it feels like maybe like an hour or two sometimes pretty consistently i remember mine it was i was back in the midwest and i hooked up with this cop and like

he had like a he had a nice little crib and shit but like he also had a backyard where it was like closed off so like we was just like fucking from like the living room to his room to the backyard backyard back to the kitchen and i'm like damn what in the entire it was it was i still remember it to this day and this is the least back in yeah in the 2000s when you're.

A fresh spring chicken so yeah that was i i don't know if i could pull that shit off now but i mean i can't if i put my minded to it a little coffee a little a little i had a a double a double decker a double-sided dildo well okay but no bottom ever wants to use it with you because they think that you already used it on another bottom and then they're like not about it oh my god they're all sanitized let's put it back in the box right every time it's brand new just for us just retape

it i just got this today but i think the best sex toy is definitely just the dildo with the suction cup they just put it on the wall i'm not a fan of dildos no no maybe i haven't found one that suit too yeah that's right i would like one that's realistic you know that has like some sponginess to it i feel the little i've encountered are very like very rigid yeah it's not very like comfortable interesting it doesn't give the real yeah vibe the real experience yeah.

Interesting yeah i mean i bought one and i used it once and i've never used that because i was like i think i don't know if i ever told y'all that but like i was what i was like i can't say that i'm can't bottom unless i try.

You know i'm saying like yeah it's valid i can't you know i love that so i went and bought one and i was like all right and now you're like i can't bottom right so then i'm like i put it on, so i got the one that's suctions and i put it on my old laptop and just, i will say i was i was gonna say like i went to town on it and i didn't it was just like you know what this ain't this is cute i don't know if i did it right like i don't know if you got to put the dick in a certain

way like you don't be like i don't know if i was sitting right yeah i was just like you know what this is too much yeah let me get this off my laptop um and i never did it again, so the dildo was on your laptop yeah like i so the laptop was like on my bed on your bed Why was it on the, oh, okay. Yeah. So we can function it. Yeah. Try to see how I could position myself. Like smashing the screen. Breaking the fucking laptop. Right. Try to not break that motherfucker. So I'm like, ooh, ha.

I feel like there is an art form to bottoming. Cause I feel like each bottom is different cause you know, each butthole's different. Not in each butthole, but each like anus is different.

And i feel like the first few times i bottomed like i wouldn't say they were like the worst experiences but like compared to now like they're terrible you know to like where i've learned my body so i i feel like i've learned that like certain angles and certain ways i move like my hips or like pop my back or something like that like it like allows easier penetration and it's more pleasurable too i think you definitely have to be the one controlling the dick if you're

yeah the bottom's in charge yeah the top can't just ram oh yeah yeah oh no i now one thing i do know how to do is top oh yeah i know how to treat my bottoms because i'm a pleaser i don't really i do fuck to get off but i prefer not to get off until they get off my boyfriend taught me actually have a bottom properly because it was like he so basically something about you gotta like tighten up your butthole and then basically like take a deep breath and then like let like the dick this

is too graphic basically it's like too graphic i know you basically like. Basically you get the dick there but then you don't you just like let it rest and then just Just like let it like let it eventually push in and then like breathe in and then just squeeze on it and then take a deep breath and then just like open up again and then squeeze hard on it and then open up again and just keep squeezing on it until it inches all the way inside of you.

And then you're squeezing on it and then basically you're in there and then you can kind of start moving around. And i've noticed that when i do that like it definitely is the way to get it it helps that makes sense you're just relaxing the muscles yeah adjusting to the side yeah that i don't think i did what size was it i don't it was like it was probably about that size but it was long it was probably like.

Probably about the size of this cup lengthwise like height wise but about the size of that sprite like a oh no the toilet paper roll toilet paper roll oh okay probably a little bit smaller than that oh okay okay it smells like maybe you can try again with the new technique uh-huh i was trying to see if they had like any micro dicks fucking dildos i also feel like girth plays a role in it as well you know why does it feel like a finger hurts way more than a big ass dick i don't

know because i agree with that i feel like yeah the smaller like if just like a fingering hurts yeah yeah like don't finger me but give me that thick dick right there i'm down no idea why that i tell this to street people all the time and they're like what i didn't know yeah i don't I don't like to be fingered. Yeah. I'm not that kind. That's not fun. Any other sexual topic? Sides across America. Unite. I praise y'all. Revolutionary new position. Love that journey for y'all.

Love your journey to side-dom. Sides only. Maybe I'll start put that on my profile. Maybe I'll get more hits. Side top. Yeah. Just try it. Report back next time I don't even be on the motherfuckers like that well get on it for investigative reporting for research report it back live anything else y'all not on this topic but I do want to let our listeners know.

That there is have you guys heard of the Long Beach Imperial Court so it's a fundraiser for the United It was created by the 43rd Region of the International Imperial Court of Long Beach and is intended to support LGBTQ and allied students living in or attending college in the Long Beach realm. This scholarship is open to graduating high school seniors and current students at an accredited university or college.

To qualify, reside in one of the cities listed below while attending an accredited university or college outside of Long Beach realm or attend an accredited university or college within the Long Beach realm. So that's Artesia, Bellflower, Carson, Cerritos, Compton, Downey, Gardena, Lakewood, Lomita, Long Beach, Linwood, Norwalk, Paramount, Rancho Palos Verdes, Roland Hills, and the communities of Harbor City, San Pedro, and Wilmington.

Damn. So if you want to apply, you can go to lbimperialcourt.org.

So with that being said, the imperial court was announced, I believe, last week or two weeks ago. So my friend, Sean, he's listed as Sean Pride. He's a general manager at the mineshaft in Brit. So he is running as Mr. Long Beach Pride this year. And if you guys want to support, you can support him as well as all of the candidates. But the winner usually wins about how much donations they receive for the United Way Scholarship Fund.

So you can stop by the bar at Mineshaft or DeBrit and find Sean Pride or you can give it to a bartender or they can donate digitally at Long Beach Imperial Court on Venmo and or PayPal. PayPal, just be sure to include his name, Sean Pride, in the comment of the donation. Every dollar is a vote and they can vote as many times as they would like. You can also talk about just having a good time and enjoying yourself during these pride festivities that's going to be coming up.

But this is a good way to get back to the individuals who have the LGBTQ plus community that is going to further in their education. So once again, go to Venmo or PayPal and Long Beach Imperial Court. And you can donate to Sean Pride and thank you. Boom. Alright, good luck. Good luck, Sean and all the others. That sounds wonderful. Gracias. Anything else? Nope. Alright, queens. Until we meet again.

From all of us here at the Queer LBC You're good enough You're smart enough And doggone it people like you, goodnight Long Beach sleep tight yay.