¶ Introducing the Fabulous Queer LBC Podcast
Good morning and slay, slay, bitch, slay all day because you're listening to the Queer LBC Podcast. I'm Nino, local construction daddy and podcast fatty. My pronouns are he, him. Thank you for asking. I have with me here my fabulous cohorts. Yo, what's up? This is Christophe here, your city top plug. My pronouns are he, him, and that motherfucker. Dr. Mikey here, your professional cheese muscle. Tell me all your secrets.
My pronouns are he, she, all of them. So what do you have for us today, Neil? Oh, you know, just some quick tea and queer events, quick tea and queer events. Music. Quick tea and queer events, quick tea and queer events, queer, queer, queer. Take a sip. Take a sip. Take a sip, you big stupid bitch. All right. So this is the quick tea and the queer events. This is where we get into the LGBT of it all. Sometimes we get a little a-key-you-a-too, if you know what I mean.
I know what you mean, girl. So what is the Queens talking about today, this week? Today, this week.
¶ Trans Students’ Rights vs. California Attorney General
Today in trans. California Attorney General legal alert. Stop trying to out trans students. The Biden administration is providing $700,000 for sex ed for trans boys.
Nice. today in homophobia united nations urged to investigate texas anti-lgbtq plus legislation as human rights crisis okay told you uh also in homophobia 285 anti-lgbtq plus bills introduced in states in the states in 2024 already damn it's only what it's only the 23rd day of the the fucking month damn that's funny not funny today and what the fuck joe biden sings happy birthday to pete budaj i can bet you that's off key also what the fuck that abby west hollywood is site
of numerous drugged drinks report says surprise surprise 70 i was right about the abby do any of you queens know about any of these things i don't i haven't heard of any of these I mean neither I literally just it's been a crazy month thus far I heard about the Biden administration, providing funding for sex ed for trans boys oh okay let's see.
Let's see what they got. So the Department of Health and Human Services recently approved a $700,000 grant to California Center for Innovative Public Health Research, which currently works with the text message-based sexual health program Girl2Girl to advocate for pregnancy prevention and safe sex among queer, cisgender 14 to 18-year-old girls through condom and birth control usage and STI testing.
Testing this grant will go toward the center's efforts to update girl to girl program to make it more trans inclusive oh that's cool nice so the they say according to the grant summary that trans boys and non-binary youth assigned to female at birth are at risk of negative sexual health outcomes yet are effectively excluded from sexual health programs because gender diverse diverse youth do not experience a cisgender heteronormative teen sexual education messaging,
available to them as salient or applicable. The summary continues, data suggests that AFAB trans-identified youth may be less likely to use condoms when having sex with people who have penises and are at least as likely as cisgender girls to be pregnant.
This health and equity must be addressed that's interesting i never thought about that aspect of it because when you see a trans male you don't think about them and you don't think about what they're doing during sex you know but like they don't fuck so but in our community as far as gay males they they, we tend not to use that much protection because now we have PrEP, we have all these other- The PrEP. Doxy PrEP, right?
¶ Sex Positivity and Representation in Queer Community
Oh right i right no i as soon as i got off the plane i was like, so we don't think about that and i'm quite sure when you're in that intimate moment.
You're not thinking about that either and i'm quite sure i mean that's even if they having that type of intercourse because they could still be having straight sex yeah definitely and i think it's it this is important because like well first of all sex is shamed in general here in this country you know and i think like when you're a queer person is shamed even more so like people don't have representation media about like what sex is it's not a very good representation of it so like we
get very like unsafe messaging so like something like this is going to be very helpful that's gonna be nice yay that's a win that is but it looks like california attorney general legal alert was to stop trying to out trans students all right okay so california school district should not force staff to out transgender students to their parents attorney general rob bonta warned in a legal memo sent thursday to every school district and charter school board and superintendent in the state. Damn.
The Office of the California Attorney General issues this legal alert to remind all school boards that forced gender identity disclosure policies. Which target transgender and gender nonconforming students by mandating the school personnel disclose a student's gender identity or gender nonconformity to a parent or guardian without the student's expressed consent. Valid state law, the memo said. A legal alert is an advisory of sorts, clarifying the law as the attorney general interprets it.
The timing of the memo concedes with the numerous school district passing like in Chino Valley and Moretta, Temecula and Orange and policies requiring parents to be notified if a student uses the bathroom or play a sport that doesn't correspond with their sex listed on their birth certificate. These policies demand parental notification, regardless of whether it will put the student in danger or risk their safety.
Office of the General, he said that Chino Valley Unified Schools, they prevented the district from enacting that the notification policy while the case makes its way through the legal process. So the the alert cited three ways that forced out in policies violate state law and students right in the equal protection clause of the California Constitution.
Because gender identity is an aspect of gender, transgender or gender nonconforming individuals constitute a protected class under California's equal protection clause. According to the memo, the alert also said that the parental notification policy violates statuary statuary prohibitions on discrimination based on gender, gender expression and gender identity.
The memo said that the policy violates California students constitutional right to privacy with regard to how and when they disclose their gender identity. So basically, in a statement accompanied the memo, Bonita said that these school district policies endanger the psychological and emotional well-being of transgender and gender nonconforming students and have no place in our classrooms.
And then he goes on to say 73 percent reported transgender and gender nonconforming adolescents are more likely to experience abuse than their peers. 73 percent reported psychological abuse. Thirty nine reported physical abuse and 19 reported sexual abuse. According to the 2021 study, less than 40 percent of trans and non-binary youth view their home as a safe and affirming place. According to a 22 survey from the Trevor Project.
So that's great that that's happening, but who's going, who's enforcing it. That's going to be the problem because if you give, you get this memo out to every school in California, regardless of public, private charter, whatever, well, private, he didn't list, but if the school board and the, and the employees is still going to do it, then what's the, what's the repercussion? Yeah. There's motherfuckers getting fired. Like what's the deal? Yeah.
I don't know but yeah i can most definitely know that that psychological drama i mean trauma is. High that's a high percentage and then for them to be adolescents like their minds are still growing, so there's and then you're putting that trauma on top of them and shit that they want to be safe yeah they just want to be who the fuck they want to be yeah yeah and think about like like us like Like, remember, like, when we were younger, we were in the closet.
Like, it was scary to be in there and it was scary to be outed, right? Oh, yeah. And sometimes it's a safety issue, too. You're right about that. You're going to out them to their family. You're going to out them to their peers, you know, and that can put people in danger. Yeah, it's fucking. But kudos to California Attorney General. Go you, Attorney General. Uh so the abbey sounding
¶ Concerns and Allegations of Drink Spiking at The Abbey
like there's a lot of drugging going there so this is from the 19th a night they can't remember one of the country's most popular lgbtq plus bars it looked like it was i don't know the individual's sexual preference and that doesn't fucking matter but it looked like it happened to all women yeah so this is where it is it's like why y'all keep just because this is gonna sound weird say you know what i mean but like in the gay community
we love to have our i guess our little token straight person that's a bartender and hot but that also don't mean that motherfucking no creep even though he may be you know like Like, he may be good eye candy for your establishment and for your patrons. That motherfucker can also be a creep. You know what I'm saying? Because we don't want to say that these are patrons that's doing that, which also y'all keep letting straight individuals that's not in that space.
Because Abby is almost damn near a straight club now at this point, if we're being honest. So I think you're putting these people into our space where we feel safe and then women most definitely come to gay spaces to feel safe and then now you're allowing individuals.
Because it almost sounds like discrimination and I don't want it to sound like that but also I don't want individuals to understand that like just because this person is straight and hot doesn't mean that they belong in the space of where gay.
Lgbtq plus i community go to feel safe so i just want to that's my two cent of it because i when i seen the article i didn't see not one gay man that was cited in that like they've been drugged it was nothing but women here maybe this then from q voice news more than 70 people interviewed during a three-year investigation by the 19th said their drinks were drugged in the abbey west They drank less than what they thought was their usual alcohol limit,
in some cases consuming only soda pop or water, but experienced varying levels of disorientation or lost consciousness, according to this article. In some cases, patrons provided documentation of hospitalizations, photos, text messages, videos, or contacts for companions who cared for them, which were reviewed by the 19th as part of its investigation.
Reporters also interviewed Abbey bartenders and other staffed West Hollywood City Council members, toxicology experts, and the law enforcement officials in an effort to get a full picture of the allegations and culture at the bar. For more than 30 years the abbey has operated for.
Not only as a bar and a club but also as a safe and welcoming space for the queer community the abbey announced in november that david cooley sold the bar but management would stay in place including general manager todd barnes and assistant general manager kiki farahat the 19th investigated claims of drugging and sexual assault at the abbey that ranged from 2007 to summer 2023 only seven of these claims have been resulted in a lawsuit which is settled out of court in early 2015 in a
statement to the 19th the abbey said it would not discuss specific lawsuits but settling a lawsuit does not necessarily indicate any wrongdoing okay p diddy public records show that elected leaders and law enforcement officials in west hollywood were aware of allegations by a spike drinks in the abbey dating to 2016 the 19th said okay that's not still going up few patrons interviewed by the 19th reported their allegations incidents to the reported their
allegate alleged incidents to the police however several of them said they tried to tell the abbey management about suspicions that their drinks had been spiked the abbey said that in more than 30 years in business no evidence exists to suggest staff members have drugged patrons but four former employees told the 19th that customers and staff alerted abby management to possible spike drinks at the bar on many occasions but management counseled staff to say the club has strong drinks.
The Abbey did not address the former employee's claim, but in a statement said, when anyone reports a crime to the Abbey, including suspected druggings, we find them a file. We ask them to file a police report immediately. We are well known for our cocktails. For some people, one drink is more than enough. Ultimately, it is up to individuals to know their limits. Not to gaslight you. Wow. Right? The fuck? Kind of weird statements.
The article also details concern from patrons who tried to file police reports but said they received pushback from west hollywood's terror station and fear some people have.
And the fears some people have about being retaliated against by the abbey if they speak out if they speak out about their claims about being drugged at the bar dang so abbey's got the cops in their pocket that's weird okay so you know what i actually my friend woman she was fucking and drugged at the abbey too um and i had sent her these articles and i was like oh my god bitch you're 71 of these 70 girls and or whoever and she's like what and she's like oh my god and
it was all women all i don't know if it was all women but it sounded like there was a lot of women yeah and so what happened with us was we were out there i don't even know what year it was it was.
¶ Night at the Abbey takes a dangerous turn
I don't know what year it was but we went out to the abbey and then we it was like we always went went out to the abbey and we always just like it was normal whatever and then nothing crazy ever happened but we went out and then we just went to the bar and we got some drinks it wasn't even like one or two drinks when i had like parted ways from her and like we had just like gone our separate ways and then i came back maybe like later in the night and then i see an ambulance
like and i'm like what the fuck there's an ambulance here at the abbey and then it's my friend and she's being being put in the ambulance. I'm like, what the fuck? And then there's like cops and I'm like, what the fuck? Why are you guys taking her? And then they're like, who is this guy? And they're like, oh, that's the guy that she keeps asking for. I'm like, what? And they're like, she passed out here at the...
In like the dance floor or something and i was just like what and then she was like all messed up and like basically like incoherent and then i was like you can't take her in the ambulance you don't have money for that this is america no you're not taking her and then so she didn't want me she didn't want them to take her either and then so i got her away from them from these emts.
And then but thank god she like lives she lived in what's it called like melrose area at the time so and neither of us drove we walked from her apartment so then i actually it was a miracle i found another random gay person who i just had like made acquaintance with like from a friend of a friend and i was like can you please help me and take her ass home and then so like we basically like lugged her ass back to her apartment it was great damn that's
probably why she got you was in the bathroom with that acquaintance or you go bathroom, but yeah and she was like basically drugged and she basically when it happened she was like no like that wasn't me like getting fucked up she's like I was she knows that she was drugged and then do she remember like when you spoke to her the next day like you know like you go in and out of it like damn like who let her get this drink from my head I went to this
particular bar she was talking to a guy and then she She said that she was talking to some guy and then all of a sudden, I don't know, she remembers dancing and they were dancing and all of a sudden she's just like, don't remember nothing. See, and that's the fucked up part about it because they go there because they feel safe and then just because you're talking to a guy don't mean necessarily that guy is a gay guy. Uh-huh. And then, or if that guy has creeper shit on him.
And I'm not blaming this on the Abbey or not, but like when you were saying this, I feel like I understand why some places... Even they don't even let gay guys go in with poppers because you can assume it's poppers or it could just be liquid date rape drug or like something that you could just carry in like no you can keep that in your car or whatever and but i'm sorry not poppers but video cleaner. Well because when i first know right you never know you got to.
Clean them videos when i first seen like the headline i was like oh i bet i bet those are all chicks i immediately just thought that yeah and then because i already thought about my friend who had that happened to and i was like fuck that's crazy but that's the vibe that i'm getting is it's like all these straight guys coming in here and just date raping chicks because obviously it's like a gay bar and they feel like they're probably anonymous like anonymous straight guy yeah
and it's like no one knows who he is and he can just assume like people just assume you walk in with a group of guys that they all gay yeah but did it say that was the last case that they had i guess report it was probably like what did it say 2017 or 2018 i can't remember there was things possible up to like 2023 oh damn they still doing this shit because i was like people can't still be out here they raping motherfuckers where you can go and get dick or
pussy anywhere but it was weird because we were both like well why did you drug her and then like you just like left her you didn't even take her home like left left her for the ambulance yeah but like what's it gonna look like you're on the dance floor you're slumping this right that's true yeah that's funny or not funny but yeah but i think i don't know i never liked the abby abby always gave me a bad vibes yeah it's always crowded it's
always snooty like i'm just like can't know where to dance yeah everybody just looking at each other yeah exactly and so it makes sense but it's so unfortunate.
¶ The Abbey’s reputation and safety questioned
The riffraff that's what they are. Oh and this one because it says 17 reported how many motherfuckers get because your friend probably didn't report it so it's probably a lot of motherfuckers who never reported it and was like oh shit like i don't know what the fuck happened last night yeah and can we talk about people are scared of making reports because of the police yeah come on y'all also that's weird that the management is trying to be like oh our drinks are strong
now okay like why are you trying trying to like be defensive of like these predators yeah like what is that when was when did they say that like in this article because it yeah it says it in there but it's kind of like wait a minute like you're saying oh our drinks are strong but it's like so you're saying you're the reason for everyone to be blacking out yeah right not it's still problematic yeah like right the fuck boycott the abbey maybe
they're defending maybe they're maybe they are i mean y'all put past shit past nobody these days yeah but i don't know as an establishment like that statement is just i'm trying to protect their their image rather than like being concerned about the community so i mean like that enough like they're not they don't care their fucking statement should have been like we're taking these allegations very seriously and we're looking into it and we're having hiring more security for some shit like.
That like the fuck not we have strong dreams don't fall on your ass don't come here you can't hang right the fuck that's a weird response that was kind of suspect next.
There's other bars I told my friend I was like do you want to come on and be a witness person and talk about it she was like no I have my self defense class that night she said I learned my lesson I'm gonna take care of myself, So it looked like the United Nations urged to investigate the Texas anti-LGBTQ plus legislation in a human rights crisis. Yeah, what the fuck? I told you we were doing last week. I was like, who's going to? We was.
I'm like, we're human rights violations here. So it's basically the human rights groups, including the American Civil Liberties Union of Texas, Equality Texas, GLAAD, and the Human Rights Campaign have united to submit a comprehensive report to various United Nations special repertoires. The report calls attention to the deteriorating human rights situation for LGBTQ plus individuals in Texas, particularly in light of recent anti-LGBTQ plus legislation.
So on Monday, with the support of the Human Rights Clinic at the University of Texas at Austin School of Law, these organizations submitted a 37 page joint allegation letter to 17 independent experts, working groups and special repertoires in the United Nations. Well, in the U.N. About the human rights crisis facing LGBTQ plus Texicans of Texicans, Texans.
¶ Human rights crisis for LGBTQ+ individuals in Texas highlighted
She got repertoires. Right. What, Texan Rome? Like, the fuck? A joint ACLU of Texas and Equality Texas press release notes that after a record breaking legislation session in the state with more than 140 anti LGBTQ plus bills filed, held, Texans are now struggling with the collection of news laws that eliminate medical freedom for trans youth, censor school libraries, ban trans athletes from participating in collegiate sports and the end.
D.I. practices at public universities threaten drag performances and undermine local government's already limited power. According to the press release, these laws are systematic attack on the fundamental rights, dignities and identities of LGBTQ plus persons that open up the gates for just that open up the gates for discrimination by both public and private actors.
I think that meant factors, but the detailed report examines seven critical pieces of legislation enacted during the 88 Texans legislation session. Each representative face facets of what the group says is a comprehensive assault on the rights of the LGBTQ plus community. So then they go and list all of these bands that they are trying to. It's SB 14, SB 17, SB 15, 763, 12, HB 900, and HB 2127. That one actually threatens local non-discrimination ordinance impacting LGBTQ plus housing rights.
So the special repertoires by the UN Human Rights Council to monitor, advise, and publicly report on human rights situations. They respond to individual complaints, conduct studies, provide technical cooperation, advance and undertake country visits to assess specific human rights situations. So hopefully that review gets things moving up there in good old Texas.
Human rights violations. i mean if you read that whole list of like laws and you just like say oh imagine russia put all these laws you would say immediately wow what a horrible draconian society but it happens here and everyone's like oh la la la just overlooks it no one cares yeah are we gonna do this to florida too right right florida's a lot more fascist than texas that's what i was thinking i was like why Why Texas? Why didn't you guys get fucking Florida?
I think Texas have more on the dock, more... Well, I guess Florida had already got their shit rearranged, didn't they? Oh, yeah. They're already told that their drag bands were unconstitutional. Oh, yeah, that's true. Stupid bitches. Dumbass DeSantis can't even run for president anymore. Haha, you dumbass donors donating to a dumb bitch who can't even run anymore. Good, waste your money. Waste your dumb Republican money for nothing. Went nowhere.
Where i bet it it was a very sad moment when he had to endorse trump right he even said it and i agreed that i would endorse the candidate he was like reluctant as fuck kiss the ring it was great. Sad pathetic ron tiny dick desantis DeSantis.
¶ Ron DeSantis: A Controversial Figure
Ron Dumbass DeSantis. Let me see what else article is there to read. Joe Biden sings happy birthday to Pete Buttigieg. I just imagine him in like the Marilyn Monroe dress.
¶ Controversial Song Choice and LGBTQ+ Pandering
Fuck genocide, Joe. Yeah. Trying to pander to the gays. Okay. Literally. Right? And the worst one of all the songs. God. Jesus so yeah no why did he even do that, Who cares? Who cares? But they're running him. And why? I mean, I guess it doesn't matter. 285 anti-LGBTQ plus bills introduced in states in 2024. After a record year in 2023 for anti-LGBTQ plus bills at state level, 2024 is off to a bad start.
In 2023, more than 550 anti-LGBTQ plus bills were introduced across 443 states, and more than 80 were passed into law. In the first month of 2024, 285 anti-LGBTQ plus bills were introduced in state houses, the American Civil Liberty Union said. Many of these bills are carryovers from 2023. These bills would limit LGBTQ plus people's rights in education, healthcare, public accommodations, free speech and expression, and more.
130 would restrict students' and teachers' rights through curriculum censorship, forced outing of students, and other regulations. 71 would place age restrictions on healthcare, mostly with age restrictions. 21 would ban drag shows. Other bills would weaken civil rights laws by defining men and women according to reproductive capacity or prevent transgender people from changing their gender marker on official documents.
As with previous anti-LGBTQ plus measures, many of the bills specifically target trans people. The bills introduced are largely in the South and Midwest.
¶ Rise of anti-LGBTQ bills in Republican-dominated states
Some are in Republican-dominated states that have already passed anti-LGBTQ plus laws, such as Florida, Georgia, Mississippi, Kentucky, Tennessee, Iowa, and Missouri. Other bills, however, are in Democratic-governed states where they have little chance of passage, such as Illinois, Minnesota, and Washington. Tawn and even when these types of bills do not pass they still do harm the aclu said as to debate over them and includes hateful rhetoric,
as debate over them includes hateful rhetoric. Rhetoric. LGBTQ plus people feel particularly threatened according to the Trevor Project study last year. Yes, yes, yes. So, okay, off to a bad start. And business as usual. That's ridiculous. It is ridiculous. I thought it was going to get better. No, unfortunately. They lied to us. It will get better.
We just got to fight for it, I guess. it's always darkest before the dawn yeah i mean i think it's interesting because people are always like the reason they're always like vote blue no matter who it's like oh it's going to be terrible and trump like it's terrible now right like yeah joe biden how are you like stopping any of this exactly focus on the wrong fucking shit genocide joe because that shit is about to be a shit show too who are you voting for me right i'm a right-hand
ballot i feel like not voting i'm like who else do we have i mean but like we don't even fucking know who's gonna be on the other end, i wish it was like a strong independent candidate i'll just put i mean there's good candidates but like i mean that's gonna be on the ballot they're gonna kill their parties but if we come together others collective this is the time where the third party comes yeah it's been written it
has been written this is the time of the third party it must be created there's no other option yeah yeah it's pretty garbage right now vote for a third party anyone else no yeah i have the privilege to like.
Have the option of not voting for president you know because in California I feel like it's gonna run Democrat no matter what so like it's not like my vote is a determinant of that, but I feel like other people may not necessarily have that privilege in other places, you're damned if you do you're damned if you don't that's also facts.
Unfucking fortunately I was like where do we go from here nowhere let other people decide our fate I mean I think we need to like, rise up and protest and make noise about it time for your third party folks start researching other, candidates other groups yeah there's other people we got to do better i think i don't know i think i think i'm hopeful i think a lot of change is gonna happen very soon i think that with everything that's unfolding with what's
happening to like palestine and and genocide and it finally getting its due diligence and like being a best gate and heard like i think it's having a lot of ripple effect i think people are really waking up to like colonization and unjust and fascism and all this stuff time to run for president you say what time to run for president i'll do it do it i will get on the den would you vote for me yeah i would vote vote for you you're
like no i actually voted for trump over you i mean i couldn't be any worse than anybody else i mean you couldn't you couldn't be, so is that uh if uh these quick teas for the day i think that is for these quick teas yeah i'm good all right well time for a break time for a break. Music. And we're back. So today I wanted to talk about a very touchy subject with you gays.
¶ Discussing the touchy subject of rejection
I wanted to talk about rejection. Ooh. Have you ever been rejected? No. Or have you ever rejected somebody? Not necessarily just a breakup, but like anything. Anything like a sex rejection on the apps or like a rejection of a first date or rejection. Just like relationship rejections.
Do you know how to reject people nicely have you ever been rejected that it hurt you go off queen i think people should take rejection like almost like a form of customer service this wasn't this was a patron of yours like a job interview right you know i'm saying like so like and that's even if it's like online or in person or whatnot just be kind because that i mean, there's so many people in the world like yeah exactly this was a valuable learning experience right you know i'm saying
like shit i ain't your type boom okay cool but i've been rejected many of times oh but you know what i'll just brush my shoulders off and keep it all moving yeah i've been rejected a bajillion times oh okay i mean i have i've been rejected many times but i didn't I try not to ever let it really get to me. Oh, yeah. And I kind of just try to keep like... Because there's so many gay guys. That's true. It's like, why? Why bother? But I guess maybe I don't know if I've been rejected.
Because I'm like, oh, maybe we just fizz off. Like, you know, people stop responding. Or, you know, you're just not as...
As into it right and you know because when we started you know like oh it's all every day not every day we're like frequent frequent and then it's just like less engaged hey so damn i guess i don't reject i usually fizz out fizz out okay yeah you know i'm saying like i just kind of ease up on that oh i just lose interest i think you let shit die out yeah i mean like i but i also feel like i'm always the one like boom putting in the effort and then if like i lose if i lose effort
and then you lose effort i feel like your effort was never in it you know what i'm saying because if i was giving it to you all at the beginning then you did it you gave nothing and then you continue to give nothing when i gave nothing then shit what the fuck i gotta let's Go ahead and thank you. But that's how I look at it. I've been the dumper of every one of my relationships. You've been the dumper? Yeah. Wow. I know, every single one. Because I'm a great boyfriend.
And there's zero complaints on their end. Oh, okay. And so I'm always the one with all the complaints. So you just say you don't want to work towards it and just be like, fuck it.
Well they don't like to be changing is what it is well the first one that i dumped was a girl and i rejected her because she was a girl understandable and the second one i rejected, because i ultimately thought i do not want to be married to this person and so i don't think i should continue a relationship if we're not gonna be working towards me wanting to be married to them because that was your excuse i mean well i mean in my head like i was always like the person
i was like this person who was like in my mind the goal was marriage like oh i want to get married and la la la i don't know why i was like hard up on like wanting to get married because millionaire Millionaire Mashmaker had me sold that I was going to find a millionaire and just be wrapped up. The magical TV. But then I was like, oh, I'm definitely not going to marry this person. I definitely don't want to spend the rest of my life with this fucking person is what I ended up learning.
And then the second one. I was like, it was just so gross and traumatic that I was like,
¶ Traumatic Rejection and Dumping
Like, I cannot be with this human being. So I was like, I must now reject them and dump them. And then... Then I got with my current, my boyfriend now. And then I actually dumped him twice because I felt like I wanted other things. Oh, okay. But then I ended up finding that I wanted him back. Oh, that's sweet. It's cute. So then I unrejected him. But I was going to say, what if those three people, what if initially those people rejected you at the beginning?
Then we would feel like, damn, maybe, you know what I'm saying? Well, you know what? One of them did. the the second one uh-huh he rejected me in the beginning oh because we had met and then it was like all beautiful we like met at a bar and then it was like really nice and then it was like then he like basically ghosted me and then i was like what the fuck and then we met up then we met again randomly at a party and then it was like all super awesome
and like crazy cool and then he He goes to me again. And then I was like, what the fuck? All right. And then we randomly met up again. You said third time's a charm, huh? Yeah. Like on Grindr, like years later. And then we ended up getting together. Oh, nice. So it was weird. And then I feel like my current boyfriend, he actually did reject me at first, too. Because when I first saw him, I saw him on OkCupid. And I sent him a message and he didn't respond to anything. Okay,
I don't think that counts. But that was a rejection initially. Touche. Because he didn't even respond. But you don't know if he actually seen it. True. But I could be just feeling rejection that I didn't know was not a rejection. That's also true. So, yeah. So either way, like I had sent him a message and he didn't respond. So I just figured like, whatever, you don't like me. So whatever. But I didn't let it like, I was not like heartbroken about it at the time.
I was just like, roll eyes kind of a thing. Like, whatever. You saw, you obviously saw my profile. And you said nothing. And then, but then years later... I was talking to him again, and then he did not reject me. And then I ended up getting up with my ex. And then I had a hell of a... It looked like you deal with rejection well. I think I do. Because I feel like if the person doesn't like me, I'm immediately... I immediately... My brain just immediately moves on. I'm like, oh, bye.
I roll my eyes around. I wish more people was like that. So I'm like, eh. You think you're too good, or you... The thing is...
The thing that I don't have... i have no problem with you telling me to my face or rejecting me i have a problem with people like leaving it like confusing or like unsaid like vague you know or vague or like mysterious or like they don't give you any clear answers or make signals and like oh like make signals yeah that'll yeah like that's what i'm not about yeah i'm like just tell me yes or no so i can move the fuck on and find their true man that makes sense yeah like
rejection is a motherfucker like because even we get rejected like when we in in our personal and professional lives as well like that type of that rejection hurts harder than i think like a relationship rejection you know what i mean no you know what kind of rejection i've had i've had a rejection where i've gone rejection where i've gone to somebody's house for a grinder hookup and then knock on the door and they're like no bye and i'm like damn see but i was like but then
wait because i'm quite sure y'all exchanged pictures of shit right yeah but i guess i guess i didn't match my picture oh you probably got there too late you probably already busted that i don't know that's that happened i think i remember that has happened at least three times that i can remember i'm trying to see if that ever happened to me where they're like no you are not you are not what i want and they're like Like, get the fuck out of here. I did get rejected at a bathhouse once.
That is just like flipped. But rejection well okay i don't even want to use the word rejection i got denied, so to speak because i guess bathhouse etiquette is you know you gave him a look was like what's up yeah and you shook his head no and walked away is there a difference between okay finish up and so then i was like oh okay fuck it go ahead and do my little walk around the bathhouse and was like, like started interacting with another gentleman.
We just in there doing the thing. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. And the dude comes and stand right next to me. And I'm like, dude, like what the fuck? I mean, granted, I didn't, I mean, I grabbed his shoulder. Maybe I led him off. I was like, oh, okay, well, I'm fucking the other dude. Like I'm like, so then I was like, nah, this motherfucker rejected me earlier.
Man get the fuck out of here like i didn't say it like that i just removed my shoulder and just finished attended to the dude i was with but i was like damn you just rejected me though like, how the fuck you so what are you doing now yeah huh maybe he realized that maybe he realizes what he won't he probably thought i was about him i don't know what the fuck he made a thought i don't know maybe he just didn't want to blow job it's probably also true you see probably just trying
trying to get fucked maybe gotta tell me what you want now i told you i'm the city top liaison.
You can't be like what about you doctor any rejections yeah definitely i think rejection has happens a lot on the gay apps you know i think it's either done by ghosting or i feel like it's mostly done by ghosting i feel gays will not respond or or you'll exchange pictures pictures i do that happens a lot to me i'll exchange pictures and i'll just i'll go silent yeah i do that a lot too i guess we all do this like yeah so like that that's like rejection right
it's just like a very gentle form of rejection it's like oh okay i get the hint i like that better i actually prefer ghosting because like okay so i remember when i would go on dates a lot and it would be like i go on a date with a guy and let's say i'm really into him and then the feeling is not is not mutual but i'm excited about it and i'm like wanting to text him back or something and be like oh did you have like a good time and then
they like say nothing and then you're like okay well maybe they just are they're going to sleep and now i gotta wait for them to wake up maybe and they'll text me once they're awake and it's like oh there's still no text you text when you first get home I. No wait do i like that better isn't that what you said i don't know what i like because that's ghosty yeah i get ghosted that doesn't sound fun did i like that i don't think you do and then it's like i text
them another i used to text i used to be desperate and then i would text them like a second time to like make sure that they didn't not get my text just want to make sure my text really desperate but then it was like i but my assumption was like but then i started doing this thing where it was like okay i'm not even gonna i'm not even gonna text anybody after i go on a date with them and then it's just gonna be like if they actually like me then they'll respond to me and
they'll say oh did you have a nice time but then it would always be like well nobody would ever say it back because they probably think you don't give a fuck exactly so it's like you play this game of like either like don't get your feelings hurt by texting first and not receiving any text or run the risk of looking like you don't give a fuck about that person right i mean but real talk like everyone needs to accept the fact that rejection is is part of like relationships and
trying to create relationships yeah like i know it hurts but like it's something you're going to experience for the rest of your life and i think if you learn to like have different relationship with it you know and and know that you're gonna get through it like it'll be easier to like face it.
When it happens yeah I remember this one time there was I was talking this guy we're like still like we weren't together but we were like right in the stages of like dating and like we're probably gonna get together like make it official and then I don't remember what I had done or said. But it was something that I had done or said. And then he was like,
¶ Rejected for not accepting help
basically made him over me. I think it was because I wouldn't accept his help for some kind of work thing that I was doing. And then he was like, you're fucking stupid. And then he was mad because I didn't want his help for something. And I was like, I don't need your help, though. You're overstepping at this point. You're not overstepping. And then, I didn't say that. No.
Anyways, so he got mad. and ended up rejecting me and then it would like we never ended up going further because i was stupid in his eyes and then so then it ended and we and we like got into like that fight and then we never made up because i was stupid that's fine and then i was mad and i was like upset about it and i was actually i was like pretty upset about it and then i had my friend take me yogurt and then i was over it get y'all funk this is back in the day um just cures everything,
but yeah like rejection does hurt but you have to be able to get over it you have to you have to have this thick skin and like it and especially in our community because it's so much unfortunate.
I don't want to use the word hate but like shallowness right yeah in our community so like rejection comes to a lot of motherfuckers and motherfuckers don't know how to deal with that and and then that makes them become ugly on the inside so now they're bitter and mean to other people yeah because that's how they were treated and it's like that's just making it a ripple effect like so we're just building nothing but mean gays you know what i'm saying on the outside.
Just like you're just not you see but no no no because it's always it's gonna be something though that's not what i meant that's not how i wanted it to come out but i wanted to say like basically it's something it's somebody for somebody regardless you know i'm saying so like that's not your person then accept it move along yeah there's an ass for every seat yeah I just think that all of us are shallow so then like, everyone wants to reach right I hear
this a lot though that people say it's like our community but I feel like it's all I mean I think there's human beings in general but there's so many motherfuckers on the earth like everybody ain't gonna find you attractive and I understand that but also we have to work I guess a little bit on ourselves, we can't just like Like, I don't know. I guess that's where body positivity... I don't know. I mean, it works for the straight men.
That's the privilege they have. What works for them? Not having to work out. But I think that's because the women are just so fucking desperate. Okay. That they've had to like... But women don't like the shit that we like. They don't like these muscle... They don't care about that shit. They want a motherfucker they can lay up on the couch with and motherfucking watch a fucking... I don't know, a fucking Hallmark movie or some shit. Why that motherfucker play on his phone or some shit.
I don't... You know what I'm saying? I feel there's definitely some women who are definitely shallow and want the hard rock abs and would not date men like that but i think it's just like looking at the what we're for fed in like terms of what's acceptable and body image like it's always a ripply muscles and i think like especially the gay community we're definitely striving towards like social acceptance because we've been rejected our whole lives you know our trauma so like
a lot of gay i don't say they're fit because of the trauma but like i think there's a lot of push to be seen in a very positive light you know yeah right because i followed that one guy on instagram i can't remember his name but he's a influencer so to speak but he i remember him saying something like oh like how rupaul drag race should have like a thick boy on there versus, all of those muscled individuals that they always have i was like that's a good idea even though that's off subject and
offline oh you mean like the background guys yeah the what's they called the hired help technically yes the prick crew okay the pit crew yeah but yeah rejection i look. And correct me if i'm wrong i'm quite sure rejection builds up your stress and stress Stress is like a number one killer. So it's very important to deal with rejection in a positive manner versus negative because that stress will build you up and like just start fucking with you. Your health, your mental, like just.
So that's why I've, you know, because I guess we all cared about what people thought about us. Oh, yeah. Now I won't give a fuck like shit. You know what I'm saying? then, like, fuck it. I mean, if you're the kind of person who's, like, facing constant rejection, like, it does...
Take a certain kind of person just take a step back and say okay why and like what am i doing like it might not just be your looks you know that's also true like it could be a personality defect that you do not have sight of you want to let out a laugh because i feel like that was definitely me also like when i was like on the dating scene too like i was just constantly constantly assuming that everything was i was constantly only being rejected upon my looks when in reality i definitely
had a lot of like red flags that had nothing to do with what i looked like you know what i mean oh okay like but i focused so much on the looks part that i didn't like take side of like what am i what is like my personality doing right right because there's like that makes sense yeah because there's like a lot of i remember i would like notice like i would date some guys and i'm like hmm this guy's cute and he has like a really good job with a lot of money like why is he single and like
hmm and then it's like oh it's because you have a big fucking fucked up personality like and you're a shitty person and you're whack and it has nothing to do with your looks or like your status or like maybe you should take set back and like what am i doing am i a rude individual am i nice to people. On date am i rude was i rude to the help on the date like why did they not want. A second date with me yeah.
People don't look inside i look inside but other than that i mean whatever fuck them like yeah move on sis yeah i mean i think it's hard for people because like we're social creatures and attachment is like integral to our survival like we start our attachment forms with our parents and like that is our foundation that sets up our personality from like there you know and i think for a lot of people rejection really hits home because it hits on a lot of like trauma points for
some people it does that does make sense so like i don't want to turn this into like a just about to take a left for like two seconds okay probably two minutes so like i remember like my first rejection but as a child i looked at rejection differently i looked at that rejection as death because like as well when i as As death? Like, so when my grandmother passed, when my grandfather passed, I was, what, probably like five, six?
Mm-hmm. So, like, I looked at rejection as, like, oh, like, my grandfather passed. Well, he's gone. But I was like, oh, like, he's not here anymore. But as a young child, like, I looked at it as, like, damn, like... Well, I guess you don't want to, like, oh, like, my grandpa left. Like, it's over. Right. Like, why did he leave? You know, you don't know, you know, that, you know, death.
So that's how I correlated with it. So then when it happened again, when I was in middle school, I was like, okay, that shit took a, I was more mature, so to speak. So I understood what death was.
So it hit harder. so then it was like it fucked with me for like probably until like i want to say, damn after college so like i didn't but i didn't correlate the two with like i didn't look at rejection in the way of i don't want to say like sexual but like i didn't look at rejection in the way of how it's meant to be like rejection is just like okay it's not meant for you yeah yeah but I tied it along with death. So yeah, I just wanted to, so that's why I didn't want to take that left turn.
Cause now I got to make a U-turn and bring it on back up to happy land. But like, you know what I'm saying? But so like I, so I dealt with rejection to make sure that my health is in order. Yeah. So like now when the motherfuckers say no, no, it's plain and simple. They, they, they, it ain't for me. Yeah.
¶ Dealing with Rejection and Reflecting on Past Experiences
They ain't for me they don't like me in some sort since fashion whatever the fuck and i'm okay with that but if this would have happened when i was younger oh i probably would have oh yeah i could i probably could have said my see myself i came out early as a child and that rejection i didn't deal with correctly with that i coincide with uh or like i tied along with death oh i could have been a mean gay like oh like oh like like that type
like damn like you just mean and shitty for no fucking reason i couldn't imagine you like that i couldn't either but i'm quite sure if i didn't deal with it if i can't if i didn't you know what i'm saying like i just yeah my soul probably wouldn't let me do that that's not my that's not my path right but yeah rejection do fucking suck so i hope everyone that's listening and yeah you know you just make sure that you to deal with it in a positive manner.
Definitely. And I think it has a lot to do with kind of like your mindset, right? Like I think if you don't think very highly of yourself, or you have like low self-esteem or low self-worth, like a rejection is gonna hit a lot harder because you're more likely to probably take it personally and you're gonna try to attribute it to like who you as a person, you know? And I think even your advice, Nino, of like.
It's like, okay, like, if you get rejected, you can look at it and analyze it, but, like, don't beat yourself up. I think there's a difference between, like, reflecting and trying to grow from it and then, like, using it and, like, beating yourself up and, like, beating your, and, like, telling yourself terrible things. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's, yeah. Definitely. Yeah. I mean, it can be sad to be rejected. like i remember being like a little like like younger and like having crushes and like them not like having a crush back and being like sad and being like oh oh yeah like i want them to like me i like them a lot like right wow and then it just feels like so it feels like so much like more like the end of the world when you're younger oh yeah oh like right oh yeah oh yeah but like i always wanted like
to have i always wanted to have a high roster of people that i i dated like i always wanted like not a high roster you want to be a hoe yeah because i always knew like i was probably not gonna because okay i always known like in my family like people are like divorce like get married really early and then i noticed that they had like a higher rate of divorce like and i'm like well duh because you guys are just dumb and you guys are dumb kids like why would you think that the
first person you met like is gonna be the love of your life forever and so i'm like i want a couple to date a couple people and like like no people okay you went into it with the mindset of like you know statistics like you know shit i know the first motherfucker i ain't gonna love like let's get some experience under my belt let's train up and like let's let's. Let's find some rejection i like i i was never
¶ Building Resilience and Embracing Rejection in Dating
scared of like going into the dating pool and like getting rejected because i'm like that's inevitable it's gonna happen not everyone's gonna like you such as like build up your tolerance and just kind of like move on from like people rejecting you you know what now that i'm think about it i may not have dealt with it that's probably why i don't go on a lot of dates is because i don't want to get rejected.
I need to book me a session with a therapist let's go right now the thing that helped me the thing that helped me get was uh this person this this old cholo that i used to work with, i was cooking he told me oh if you go to a club he's like hit on like the 10 hottest chicks and at least one is gonna say yes and i was like oh that's such a good statistics game and i was kind of looked at it that way i'm like oh okay so then i would
do that i mean i would go to fucking i would go to the abbey and like talk to like a billion dudes in one night and just be like well i got one that's all you need uh-huh look that's true that's all you need. Two of you lucky and I fucked all of Hollywood one Abby patron at a time but
¶ The Emotional Breakup: Crying as the Dumper
what about you have you ever been a rejecter I think I've also only, been the dumper in my relationships the first one was also my girlfriend so i dumped her yeah for obvious reasons how did you break it to her were you just like, texting her i think it was hard because it was it was also like the second person that i came out to oh so like i think i decided to end it because i wanted to go have sex with guys and i was like.
That's really not fair for me to go cheat on her like let's just end it so i did but i think it was emotional for me because it was like also the second time i was saying it out loud so like i cried i cried during the breakup even though i was the dumper oh i hate that oh that's one thing i fucking hate don't you fucking sit in front of my fucking face and dump me and start and beat me me crying motherfucker it was a good time oh my god i know that's
like because that now that makes the person that's getting dumped don't that now i don't even know how to respond yeah well like damn like yeah i wanted to go the fuck off but now you crying and shit like yeah because i was like but i understand the emotion you know right yeah it's like it's something i like need to explore i need like figure out you know yeah i mean i cried too i don't know my breakup because i was like i'm sorry what well because i felt bad and i was just like
well i'm feeling bad because i was like you know we had all this that we like alleged that we were like gonna be and do and now we're not you're grieving it right not a point in time like this is like this happened this is happening right here right now so yeah these emotions are real it was supposed to be so dramatic we're terrible oh my god see how shitty it is to cry right i'm like what that happened to me when i get i got dumped. And i was like how this motherfucker beating me crying.
I'm like i'm such a good person that i feel so bad for you then you just got done i feel so deeply. I'll say to me like why the fuck you crying i'm grieving for your loss yeah He the loss of me to you. Oh shit. That shit's funny. But I did. I think I rejected. Well, I'm not going to use the word rejected. I did go on a date once when I was back in the Midwest.
And I didn't return a guy's call after our date because he got very upset because we was walking down the street and I allowed us to separate to allow somebody else to walk through us. So that makes sense. Yeah. Right. You know, you know, common courtesy. Well, being polite and also like, motherfucker, we just met like this is day date one.
Yeah. as soon as they walk past he comes in he says like hey like that was real rude for you to let them walk through us I said we two big black motherfuckers like what we just gonna play chicken with these motherfuckers in the on the sidewalk these two little white people gonna be okay like they I just what you want to run through them yeah you had to have a second literally a second my guy literally a second you broke Broke our everlasting love.
¶ The Red Flag: Politeness Turns into a Deal-Breaker
It wasn't even like we was holding hands. We was walking side by side. How fucking dare you? Right. But I also see people that do stupid shit like that. Like, they just de-bowl motherfuckers on the sidewalk for no reason. And I was like, yeah, I'm not calling this motherfucker back. Forget that. Yeah, that was a red flag. Oh, red flag. I was like, nope, I'm good.
But we continued the date throughout the night. so that was flag number one i'm quite sure he did other shit dev was like yeah you know what i'm probably gonna take this piece of the go.
¶ Toxic relationship and the first breakup
That's fucking funny and then the first boy i broke up with we were toxic together yeah yeah so he was i guess he's technically probably the rebound no was he wait no no no i lie i like the first boy i broke up with was someone i was with for almost a year so i met him on ok cupid oh okay yeah i think i don't think was grinder on back then i think it was i don't think i was doing grinder though i feel like it did come later than okay i think so too yeah oh wait
but i made up on okay cupid uh we went on dates and then we like became all official and then we're progressing in our relationship and yada yada yada and then i went on a bachelor party with my roommate and we're out in vegas and he was texting me we're texting each other during the whole weekend and like he went to a party he got drunk and then over text he told me that he loved me, while i was at the bachelor party and all that and i was like oh oh fuck because
like i didn't i i wasn't ready to say i love you and i didn't love him so i was like oh fuck like how am i gonna handle this so like and i was like i need to respond i can't just like not respond so i text and back of them like...
Was like i really care for you but like i'm not ready to say that that's nice yeah i hope that we can continue to grow and i can eventually get there well that's yeah positive right then you started crying no this one i didn't cry this one i didn't cry and then he was like fuck you, he got upset yeah so like he was telling me some stuff and then when i got back he picked me up or we went on he invited me to go out with him and we're at ikea he was shopping for furniture furniture and he
like stonewalled me the whole time didn't talk to me like he invited me out and then he didn't talk to me the whole time like just a silent treatment mature yeah and then eventually we got back to this place and then like we got into it and then so like that was like we were trying to like repair from that and whatever and then like i got sick i got diagnosed with lupus and like he was there the whole time and then like like i got out of the hospital and i decided to end it because
i was like like i have a lot of shit to figure out like i just got with lupus like i'm trying to finish grad school like i'm gonna move in a few months like, i'm like like i need to focus on other things so i ended it because i felt i needed just to.
Realign with myself first yeah exactly yeah and i don't think we ever quite repaired from me not saying i loved him yeah because he was really upset these bottoms they do not want to commit yeah and then there was another guy after him my rebound that one was toxic because like we just like show up party get drunk have sex fight and that was it yeah and put it on repeat yeah rinse and repeat rinse and repeat and like i remember one time he was was really critical too he would like we're going
to his apartment and his neighbors were having a party and i haven't met them yet and he was like oh fuck he was like my neighbors are out there and he looks at me he looks me up and down what i'm wearing he was like you can't meet them like that i was like and i'm like the fuck i'm not and i just like went in and went to go introduce myself to his neighbors that's fine yeah but yeah i ended that one too because that was just drama and I just like flew by those red flags
because it was like one of those things that was like real attached real quick you know those, and it was yeah yeah it was like a jet taking off that crash landed somewhere damn yeah oh young love it's terrible, fuck rejection there's one motherfucker I do reject. Donald Trump. You have any tips for rejecting people? Kindly? On the apps, I just say I'm not interested. I don't think we're a match.
We're not looking for the same things. Is that after conversation or is that just like after pictures? Right, after pictures. It's usually after conversation or sometimes they just send pictures first. That's also true. If you send pictures first without saying nothing to me, oh. But then i'm just like i'm a judge it's like your butthole yeah i don't think we're a man i don't think we're a man i don't think yeah yeah that yeah that's crazy yeah i'll just say.
Yeah i do remember this one time that i told this guy that like we were a match and the reason i said we weren't matches because his texts were very like erratic and he was just kind of like like trauma dumping because he was talking about being rejected by all these gays and how everyone's terrible and all this stuff and i was just like oh like i don't want to get caught in this right yeah so like because that seemed like there may be something on you yeah yeah so like him i told him like you
know like i don't i think what else happened is like i took a break from the conversation i put my phone down and he was like where'd you go you're gonna reject me now yeah No, no, no, no, no. You're like, I ain't trying to... So I'm like, no, you know, I don't think we're a match. And then he just went off and started saying all these things that just end up blocking him. Girl, bye. That's bananas.
¶ The importance of honest communication in relationships
I remember this thing. I don't remember where I heard this. I think it was the radio. But it was like saying, like, if you're going to reject somebody or dump somebody, that you need to be like, instead of blaming the other person and saying you're doing this, this, this, this, that I'm like, you should just say, I am this kind of a person and I need these things.
Things and since you are not giving me these things i must now leave and find them elsewhere because if you can't give me these things i mean i need to find them elsewhere i mean that's true and i'm quite sure if you use that and then so that person can just be like oh well they need those things and i can't give it to them so they must go if you instead of let's go if they're okay cave yeah i mean if they're good but i mean that doesn't really work when
i did that with my exes well well because you probably beat them crying i know i was like i need other things.
I think i think like a response like that is going to work for a certain a person has done a certain level of like work and i think that if people haven't done that work or they have have like unhealthy qualities then those aren't going to work very well because rejection is going to hurt like rejection is going to be rejection to them you know i think like being able to be like understand that logic and that much emotion requires someone who has like a great awareness
of themselves and certain level of like healing or understanding yeah because i feel like my first ex i guess i didn't break up with him in a proper way i have no idea but like Like, he wasn't over it, and, like, he kept trying to reach out, and I kept trying to tell him no. How'd you break up with him? I mean, to his face. Oh. And I just told him, like, I'm done, and, like, I don't want this anymore, and I don't like what's happening anymore.
But then, I don't know, he just didn't want to, I mean, he accepted it in that moment, but then it was, like, he kept coming back.
And, like, trying to, like, want to open a communication, and I kept telling him no. And i'm like why doesn't he stop trying to open the lines of communication and then it just got to the point where i had to change my phone number and then yeah so it's like how do you deal with that because that like that person is not dealing with the rejection properly yeah i mean exactly what you do like i think you need to protect yourself like you can't force you
were direct you told them what he did and like your job is done like you have no obligation to this person anymore in theory right right of course according to your own value system you know but i think like that person needs to get their support outside of you you know and. You can't convince them, you know? Right. And I think like, restraining orders, blocking them, things like that are important to keep people safe because things like that happen a lot. Yeah.
It was getting weird. And so it was kind of like, he would like show up outside of my house, like uninvited. And then one time, like he came into my house in the middle of the night,
¶ The escalation of stalking behavior and setting boundaries
uninvited, while I was asleep. And I had to kick him out. And I was like, very like, shook by that.
And he was like trying to act like it was like no big deal like normal yeah like it was just like yeah like it was like fine and then i was making a big deal of nothing and whatever and i'm like no sis like no that isn't what we do yeah no one does that i don't know where the fuck you from i was like but anyways and yeah so it was kind of like how but yeah i was being very direct to the extreme to the point where they're like you're being mean and i'm like i'm not trying trying to
be mean no trying to tell you what the fuck is going on motherfucking yeah it wasn't really until one of my other friends had to tell him something the girl who got abby had to tell him something and then i guess he like understood anyways i don't know people need to learn to deal with rejection that's true yeah i mean and that goes back to kind of like who knows his history with rejection i think like when people can get triggered when they experience very similar their feelings like
they did in their past right and puts them in survival mode but also like that's stalking that is like yeah not okay to do that's what i said that's true like even if they do have trauma like you don't get the excuse to stalk right that's not i don't think that's pretty hard to say like you get some help for real support.
Crazy yeah but yeah i mean yeah rejection doesn't feel nice no it does not feel nice it don't but we can move on that's true i just i'm glad i got that thick skin because i just like fuck it just go back to the bar that might be rejected that quick now like that i'll jump back that quick and just go straight to the bar you can ostracize and gay world you know what feels worse than a rejection going to the bar thirsty as fuck for some dick and there's like not even a soul in there how you
like what kind of god damn it and there's no one inside the bar and you're just waiting and not anyone comes in no never happened no no it's happened to me before damn well i'm quite sure you found something no i actually got so desperate that i tried making out with the bartender and he was like what he's like that's That's not what the vibe was. And I was like, well, I'm wasted. So he rejected me because. Because you was rejected and got rejected from the vibe being at the club.
Yeah. It was the, it was one of the bartenders at Ackbar. Oh yeah. Like it was like a night full of zero, no one inside. And then like, I finally left and then I was so drunk that I went back and I knocked on the door and he answered the door and I kissed him.
And then he was just like no he was just like what are you doing I thought you left your keys in this motherfucker like what no I was trying to make out with him but then he's just he was just like stone cold like no, and then I was like oh I'm sorry I'm just drunk I walked away I was like. Rejection yeah yeah yeah i would say definitely like i think i take the stance mostly of like liking to be approached because of rejection it's so much easier when people approach you.
Is it because then you don't know well i don't know because do you know if they i guess you'll reject them right away what do you mean like because you well because i'm just thinking thinking if they approach you then it's you have the opportunity to reject them and you rather that happen versus them just rejecting you like i think i think i don't i don't approach people because i get scared of like being rejected oh okay so i like to be Oh, okay.
Okay. Yeah, yeah. I see what you mean now. Okay. Let them flies come to you. Right. Yeah. That's way easier. That's true. No, fuck it. Well, shit, no. I did tell the mother, oh, so I'm, you know what? I am on my shit this year. I told a guy at the bar over the weekend. I was like, I ain't, I mean, I might have licked my lips like that, but I said, uh, I just want to say that you are one good looking motherfucker. And he was like, oh, thank you. But he kept making eye contact.
Well, I seen him with a chick at the bar. And I was like, I ain't mean to offend you or nothing because you with your girl. He was like, no, that's my friend. I was like, oh, okay, cool. But yeah, I just want to let you know that like your face is beautiful. Okay. Thirsty. No, but it was dead ass. Okay. I'll show you a picture when we get offline. Oh, there's a picture now. Yeah. Cause I was like, do you got Instagram? Cause I would love to see this face every day.
And he gave it to me. But yeah, that's, so I would have never done that shit. Like, cause what if you said, no, I'm going to, well, yeah, I got the Instagram. You can't have it. I'm like, oh, well, God damn, let me take a mental picture.
You did click click and i would have walked away how'd you overcome the fear because i was gonna be like fuck it i don't see it rather somebody i don't know why i heard this from there's like i'm just telling motherfuckers how i feel in 2020 you know what kate williams gave me that kate williams doing his he he's saying everything on his mind i'm you know what me too like motherfucker you a good looking motherfucker so yeah get it get it i love it fingers crossed no fearless,
be fearless I mean if he was giving you the eye I don't think he was I was just in his face no he said he was looking at you after right he was pointing no he was looking past me at his at the girl so that's what it's like is that your girlfriend oh yeah, nope but at least I probably got him made him feel good mhm, So y'all got anything else on the good old topic of rejection? I reject. I reject this episode. I reject any further conversation.
Reject. If you're feeling sad about rejection, think positively.
¶ Tips for Getting Over Rejection: Relax, focus on yourself
Get over it. No, I'm just kidding. Any tips for getting over rejection?
Relax. do things that make you happy to get your mind off of it focus on yourself yeah go for a walk make a nice hot bath smoke a jay, read a book buy the incense you know things to make you go talk to a friend yeah, it's okay to be sad for a little while that's true be sad be sad just be sad let that shit out be with your your emotion all right then queens if that's it for rejection all right well from all of us here at the queer lbc i want to thank everybody i'd like
to thank myself nino christoph dr mikey and yeah from all of us here at the queer lbc you're good enough you're smart enough and doggone it people like you good night good night everybody.
