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Queer Resistance and Global Solidarity: Uniting Against Oppression

Jun 06, 20241 hr 7 minEp. 56
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Good morning and work it, work it girl, because you're listening to The Queer LBC Podcast. In this episode, hosts Nino, Christoph, and Dr. Mikey dive into the latest Quick T and Queer Events. From the Biden administration's new rules protecting transgender and non-binary students, to the Pope's apology for using a homophobic slur, and the shocking pellet gun attacks on San Diego gay bars, the team discusses the headlines that impact the LGBTQ+ community.

As Pride Month kicks off, the conversation shifts to a crucial topic: global solidarity with oppressed communities. The hosts highlight the ongoing genocide in Palestine and discuss the importance of standing up against colonization and systemic oppression. They explore the power of protests, the role of educational institutions, and the need for collective action to support human rights for all.

Join The Queer LBC Podcast as they shed light on how interconnected our struggles are and the ways we can contribute to a more just and equitable world. This episode is a call to action for everyone to stay informed, get involved, and support each other in the fight against oppression.

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Introduction

Hey y'all, this podcast contains potentially disturbing content. Our show includes graphic references to topics such as sexual abuse, self-harm, violence, eating disorders, explicit language, and sexual acts. Listener discretion is advised. This show is for mature audiences only. Good morning and work it, work it girl, because you're listening to The Queer LBC Podcast. I'm Nino, local construction daddy and podcast fatty.

My pronouns are he, him. Thank you for asking. I have with me here, my fabulous cohorts. Hey, Christoph here, your city top liaison. My pronouns are he, him, and that motherfucker. Dr. Mikey here, your professional quesmoso. Tell me all your secrets. My pronouns are he, she, all of them. So, what do you have for us today, Nino?

Quick Tea and Queer Events

Know all right Quick T and Queer Events Quick T and Queer Events Quick T and.

Music. Queer Events Quick T and Queer Events Quick, quick, quick Dick's hip, dick's hip He makes it to a bitch All right this is the quick tea and the queer events this is where we get to the l g b and the t of it all sometimes we get a little q at all if you know what i mean, oh i know what you mean so what are these queens talking about today this week today this week, today in gay biden administration sets new rules for schools medical providers and foster care programs, also in gay

new biden administration title nine rule protects transgender and non-binary students bathroom and pronoun use at school today in homophobia pope francis apologizes for using a homophobic slur during meeting with the bishops wow so sorry uh also in homophobia of four San Diego gay bars attacked by pellet guns. Oh, shit.

Changes in Trans Rights

Today in trans, surgery no longer required for illegal gender change in Czech Republic following landmark ruling. Do any of you queens know about any of these things? Well, that's it for Quick Tease. Right. No, I don't actually know anything. I haven't heard about any of these, but I did hear about the Pope Francis. I did hear about that. Issue, but I didn't know that. I thought this was like Like previously, like in the past, I didn't realize that this was new.

So it looked like he's apologizing for using the anti-gay slur during the meeting with bishops.

Pope Francis Apology

The 87 year old punter repeatedly made the homophobic remark in a closed door meeting last week as he told Italian bishops the gay man shouldn't be allowed to train for the priesthood. The pope never intended to offend or express himself in a homophobic terms. And he extends his apologies to those who felt offended by the use of a term, as reported by others.

The Vatican said in a Tuesday statement, as he, Pope Francis, has said on several occasions in the church, there is room for everyone, everyone. No one is useless. No one is superfluous. There is room for everyone, just as we are everyone. The Pope comments came to light on Monday, came to light on Monday when two Italian newspapers reported on the May 20th meeting citing sources in attendance.

The newspaper article, which was translated from Italian, claimed the Pope had said these is, yeah, they spell it out and everything in a physical noun, which translated into English approximately as the F word. In some of the seminaries, Francis' comments were made in the context of a proposal from the Italian bishops to amend guidelines on candidates to seminaries.

The Vatican ruled in 2005 that the church cannot allow the ordination of men who are actively gay or have deep-seated homosexual tendencies. Deep-seated? Like, okay. Francis upheld the ruling in 2016. Two years later, he told the Italian bishops not to accept gay candidates for priesthood. Like what? Like, so during, so the Pope has sought to offer a more welcoming approach to LGBTQ plus Catholics saying, who am I to judge? Like.

When asked about gay priest and has also offered the possibility that priests could offer informal blessings for same sex couples. The Quaternary Dele Cetera newspaper stated that the Argentine pope who speaks Italian as a second language may not have been aware of how offensive his language was. And that the remark was greeted with a credulous laughter by the bishops.

Discussion on Pope’s Remarks

A source close to the pope told cnn that the phrase could also be understood as there is a gay climate in the seminaries there is no official transcript of the comments due to the nature of the closed door meeting so basically it sounded like there was a snitch inside the closed door like so who so who told who who went to cnn right and told them all this shit when actually i guess from his point of view that's his second language like he don't know italian like that so he was making

this scene like we don't want no fagliosini's in here right give me a break i was like we know what you said bitch right i didn't know that was offensive that i didn't want these queers these fags i don't want fags in this priesthood oh i I didn't know that was offensive. I'm sorry. What the fuck? You're 87. You know what is offensive and not offensive. Get out of here, girl. If you don't understand, if you're that bad at public relations, maybe you shouldn't be at the head of your religion.

I mean, but also look at the religion and what it preaches against gay people. So, you know, should we expect different? Right. And I was like, they're deep-seated or homosexual tendencies.

Like the whole your whole fucking deep-seated homosexual like everything has been looked like it was like well back in the day it's always been like the pope is always touching not this particular pope but pope in the past let's make that yeah had those tendencies and but it's also like why is even why are you even asking people their sexual orientation when they're applying playing for priesthood what does that even matter exactly especially since they're

not getting married like all y'all are supposed to be asexual right like if you're not engaging with the sex acts which is what these homosexual priests would probably be doing not be engaging in sex still would that's probably why they don't want them to have homosexual tendencies because they're around a lot of ones that hidden or like. Just have a priest orgy. But yeah, those words, deep-seated homosexual tendencies. So these are just tendencies that people have.

Right. It doesn't mean that they're going to act on it. You just have a tendency. And they are deep-seated, which is like, they're very deeply seated in you. Right. You should not want the ones that's creeping by the water. I guess i personally have deep-seated homosexual tendencies which sounds i have deep-seated that sounds so funny to say it like it does.

Conversation on Deep-Seated Homosexual Tendencies

You're seated deeply with fake a tree if i could just cleanse myself of these tendencies well yeah well can't he just like go to a convergent therapy camp and just like say that he's straight and just what's the problem with that that's what you believe i mean well surprise surprise conversion therapy doesn't work so they don't even believe it then right that is true because if yeah i don't even it yeah it doesn't even matter i don't know

because yeah if you're a priest and you're like pretending like this is we're all like doing the thing then you're not supposed to have sex with anybody so you're supposed to be a virgin anyways so what who fucking cares so right bitch so now what if you had deep-seated heterosexual tendencies in there in the in general exactly should you not be in the priesthood because that should not be on your forefront mind that should not be something that you should be having deep-seated maybe they just

need to get castrated again oh they were castrated before no i don't know i mean i believe it but bring back castration, All priests must be castrated. You don't need it anyways. I had a friend who was, I don't know if I ever told y'all this story. He was a priest. Well, he was in the Catholic church. He was a priest. And he ended up leaving priesthood because he was, in the words of the priest, he had deep-seated homosexual tendencies.

Tendencies now he left the church he's living his best gay life and a nice little thruple doing this thing wow yeah i watched that movie i know right i said live your life yeah because he was like it was he was torn yeah he loved what he did he loved the church but he also knew that he had at these tendencies he also not oh my bad not the tendencies he knew who he was as an individual.

You know i'm saying like i don't want to use no tendencies yeah but he finally walked in his truth and is living his best life that's awesome i wonder like what got him clocked like what i don't know i don't think he i don't think he got a little flare in his i don't think he got clocked because Because granted, this was like in the Catholic church in Texas. So it wasn't like he got clocked.

I think it was just him having that battle within himself, you know, like with being a priest, with being a father. And then, you know. He just like came out. Right. He didn't like get exposed. He didn't get like shamed. Oh, I see. I see. Like in the Queen of the Game of Thrones. Game of Thrones shape. That's interesting. Well catholics go reflect on that get it together.

What did biden do some bullshit, let's see new biden administration title nine rule protects trans transgender and non-binary students bathroom and pronoun use at school school districts that do not respect transgender and non-binary students pronouns or force them to use restrooms that don't align with their gender identity could be committing federal civil rights violations beginning this fall all today the u.s department of education announced the issuance of a final rule

under the title 9 to protect people in public schools for sex-based discrimination and harassment the announcement makes a significant update in federal efforts to combat sex discrimination and fairly funded educational institutions during a call from reporters secretary of education miguel cardona emphasized the administration's dedication to ensuring the title 9 effectively serves all students by providing safe welcoming and rights respecting educational environments.

Get it. Environments. Well, that's great. Yeah, that's great. And then, but I always wonder like how, how's this all getting forced? Exactly. Because this motherfuckers been talking from Kansas to Utah to motherfucking.

Florida all about oh we gonna we gonna exactly do this so how they gonna who's gonna enforce this and who's gonna find them i think what happens is is that nothing changes and you just are allowed to win the lawsuit when you sue the person for doing the crime against you that makes sense i think it just yeah means like no no other answer besides you win the lawsuit can they they also pull like if you get federally funding pull it for violating their laws that's probably true

yeah i think so i think that's another one that had come see but this is what the problem is going to come in there because some of these schools that is doing these is these charter schools so they're not probably getting funded they're not giving they're not getting funding by the government in the first place so some of these charter schools and some of these now granted some of these schools that we talked about in

the past like up there north california I'm quite sure they're getting funded, have government funding, but probably not a lot. So they're probably not worried about it. But yeah, some of these schools are charter schools. And to my knowledge, a lot of charter schools don't get government funding. Oh, that's interesting. I'm not sure. Here it says, a senior administration official responded detailing the rule's implications.

Biden Administration’s Title IX Rule

The new rule puts in the regulation itself that discrimination on the basis of gender identity and sexual orientation violates Title IX. And if in an investigation, we determine that a student is harassed based on gender identity and subject to a hostile environment that meets the standard in these new regulations, then we would be able to find a violation and we would be able to ensure that the school comes into compliance under the Title IX.

Nine so basically yeah you just have to so i mean i think they need to work harder at letting the straight people know this right it's like hey don't fuck with the queers or else you're gonna get sued it's true and it's like that should be a warning to them and they should be like oh now i'll take that into consideration before i call them a faggot and then the end of story but But they don't tell them that either.

And they just like. Right. But this is going to probably be them starting to do shit under the rug and starting to do shit on the slide that make it seem like, oh, like, no, that wasn't the reason why. It was because, oh, our dress code states this or, you know, like this is what our bylaws or whatever the fuck may say. They're not going to directly be in violation of Title IX.

It's just that's gonna be that that's gonna have a lot of fallback on the department of education, yeah i mean it's a job get to it girls i mean that's true hire more people this is something y'all should be like this is how we change is like you put in these things and then you need to have like people who are there to actually like enforce and educate like if you are creating these federal laws then you should like educate the people who have to follow

these laws like Like, I know me as a therapist, I take ethics. So, like, if this is a federal law, then you need to embed this into, like, the education that the teachers get or trainings that you're going to provide to schools nationwide so everyone's on the same page. Like, I don't know. When it comes to the school that I go to, the way they are handling their LGBTQ plus issues.

Shoes you just you me and being fucking pissed about the fucking anyways when it comes to the fucking the sexual harassment part of class it's like they teach everybody sexual harassment in the beginning and then they show them videos on like what is sexual harassment you know like how you see at work there is nothing there's only things in there about don't harass women and that's all it is is this like don't rape women that's your sexual harassment and it's like no they need to

learn you can't call fucking gay people queer or fag or whatever they need to learn how to deal with gay people in that like whole sexual harassment world video right but they don't add that in there and i think that needs to be a part of of this like re-education of the straights. Because I mean, it has to be in there, otherwise they're gonna not know. And I mean.

I feel like even in the classes that I'm in, when they have to talk about that kind of thing and they have to bring that up and be like, oh, you can't sexually harass people or like call them like names and stuff. Like even the teachers will be like, even though like basically like make a joke at it and say like, it's stupid, but we have to tell you guys this. When I think they probably say like, it's stupid. Y'all should already fucking notice.

No, it's like, it's stupid because we don't agree with it is what they're saying.

Yeah it's stupid and it's dumb but we just have to tell you guys and it's like that's the attitude that comes like out of like how you people are educating people yeah i don't know like that's people are homophobic because they're ignorant that's also and they just need education and exposure yeah exactly yeah because like oh everybody's laughing nobody's hurt but it's probably a couple of motherfuckers that's like that was, hurtful yeah,

fuck them fuck them so I mean thank you for the protection which is great and I was reading the article it also said like this is also as a result of what happened in Oklahoma to next so that's why like this got greenlit so quick because of that and they're saying that guidelines around.

Biden’s Wins for LGBTQ+ Community

Trans athletes is is still ongoing so they're gonna there's gonna be a ruling around that soon as well i also saw an art a pseudo article a post from the la lgbt center and it says biden just dropped three major wins for the lgbtq plus community the new rules apply to schools medical providers and foster care programs that receive federal funding in recent weeks the biden administration has unveiled a number

of new rules and guidelines that strengthen protections for LGBTQ plus individuals in schools, healthcare settings, and youth in foster care. The new rules create protections against harassment and discrimination based on gender identity or sexual orientation. The rules apply to schools, medical providers, and insurers, and state welfare agencies that manage foster care programs that receive federal funding.

It is absolutely unacceptable that LGBTQ plus youth continue to face pervasive bullying bullying, and violence in school settings, too often by adults in positions of power. We look forward to working with the Biden administration through programs like Out for Safe Schools to ensure that all schools provide safe and affirming environments for our youth. From Tara Russell Slavin, Chief Impact Officer of the LA LGBT Center. That's what they said. And then somebody else said.

Importance of Protection in Foster Care

Okay. Many LGBTQ plus youth who enter the foster care system face an added trauma of being rejected or mistreated because of their gender identity or sexual orientation, which can have a significant impact on their mental health and well-being. These rules are an important step in making sure all LGBTQ plus youth have an opportunity to thrive as their authentic selves. Chief Social Services Officer Lisa Phillips, LA LGBT Center.

So yeah. Yeah. Excuse me. That is so very fucking true especially with the foster care system it is very important that that shit happens because these kids are for one main thing on their mind is to look for someone to love them for who they are they're so young and vulnerable that they are looking for love and And they get so much abuse and it just mind boggles me that there's no system in place within the foster care system that reaches out to make sure that this doesn't happen.

I've had so many friends that like fostered kids. Excuse me. me and it was just like wow some of the shit that happened in some of your foster homes happened to you like that and like what did the case man like it's just like.

Mind-boggling and some of this shit happened even at school so it's just like when it happened at school and they bring it to the foster parent then the foster parent is all embarrassed and all whatever the fuck but like you why are you embarrassed you should just love the child for who the child is and correct the fucking school but they some motherfuckers are just in it for the money i mean you're not getting a lot of money from the state but that's a weak scam yes,

and it and it just it's gonna put a lot of mental strain on their mental health when they get older, maybe we just need better foster home cares what is it is it adoption centers foster well we need more better human beings applying to be foster parents because the ones that go and apply you know they have their their mindset to love a child but you can't go and cotton strawberry pick a child you're going to get the child that you know

randomized right you know you just can't go out there and just oh I want this not a fucking not the zoo what is it right the pet store right that's how i thought it worked right now that's not how it works like it's unfortunate like you get what you get. And we just need more positive, loving individuals in that system that are open to building up their hearts and their homes. Just not your home, because they just don't need a fucking home. They need your heart and your love as well.

So basically, you just need to have more people of that nature to do that. Yeah. I think they should also educate people to become foster parents, because these youth are also coming with a lot of trauma. So, like, how they interact with people isn't going to be, like, they're not going to be opening up right away, right? They're going to be slow to open up. They're going to want to protect themselves.

They might be a little closed off. That may, like, bring tension because, like, the foster parents may not understand what's happening, you know, or there's behavioral issues because of trauma. So, like, I think foster parents need to, like, really have, be educated on how to be parents because you're already stepping into this role and they already have trauma and, like, they need extra support.

Yeah, you could probably, like, easily mitigate, like, a lot of issues if you just had a little bit training. Yeah, exactly, right? That's true. I mean, why, you know, you have, you license people to, like, be therapists and social workers and all this stuff.

Education for Foster Parents

Like why can't you just do the same thing with people who want foster who foster oh yeah you go through classes and you get trained but i don't think they focus on that and they and that's what they need to focus on they need to focus on children who may be lgbtq plus i mean i don't see the problem with putting a little bit more on the foster parents i mean if you're so hard up that you want to parent a child yeah you're gonna go adopt child like well then

go fucking read a book right like and trust get some yeah get some help it's hard if you have to do all this for a license for your car yeah like bitch yeah yeah take a three fucking month fucking course on being a fucking parent, And that goes for you breeders as well. And you doctors. I mean, everyone should get classes on how to be a parent. But yeah. But that's good. We're getting more protection. I mean, he fucking needs these fucking LGBT votes.

Discussion on Hate Crimes in San Diego

No, no. Which brings us to our main topic. What? That LGBTQ plus I bars in San Diego getting attacked? Actually, yeah. go ahead and, oh so this is crazy because I was just selling San Diego to someone who's previously moving from the Midwest and was like oh we're moving to San Diego I was like oh like San Diego is the best but SoCal in general is the best I mean don't nothing beat Long Beach but if you must go further south.

Then San Diego not Long Beach but according to again Again, the L.A. LGBT Center, the unsettling hate crimes has left the community in shock as a search for the assailant continues. The San Diego, they say, queer community was targeted in a pelican attack on four LGBTQ plus establishments in the early hours of Saturday morning. According to the San Diego police, multiple people were struck with nonlethal rounds around 1 a.m.

When an unknown suspect began shooting at four establishments in queer friendly neighborhoods, Peck's Bar, The Rail, Rich's and number one on Fifth Avenue. Ellis, at least three people were injured and one person was hospitalized. According to witnesses, the suspect was also her shouting slurs at the victims of their attacks. I just saw someone hope and Prince. And this is a quote. I just saw someone holding what looked like an automatic gun. And my reaction was to crowd crotch.

But by then it was too late, said Eddie Renazo, an employee at Rich's nightclub who was shot in the damn requiring minor. eye surgery. Regardless of whether it was a real gun or a pellet gun, it was trauma. The San Diego Police Department is investigating the incidents as a possible hate crime. The department is asking anyone with their information about the shootings to call their non-emergency line at 619-531-2000.

With Pride Month approaching in less than two weeks, this incident is a reminder to the LGBTQ plus community to stay safe, stay strong, and be villagin to read more follow the link in our bio if you go to the la lgbt center instagram page.

Possible hate crime it's a it's a hate crime it's a hate crime like how is that not a fucking surefire hate crime get out of here for gay bars and shouting gay slurs right it might be we'll see i don't know doesn't but some of the comments i looked at some of the comments i don't know if you guys had the chance to look at some of the comments and some of the comments like it's almost most like you always got to play devil's advocate with this type of shit because i

have been out to bars where you know the gays can also act the fuck up for no fucking reason like in the sense of like starting shit right like you been to a gay bar where a fight had broke out and then somebody come back and do something you never i've never experienced that at the gay bar come back with a Well, not with a gun per se, but like come back or like start fights and things of that nature.

So I'm only saying this to say this. People, these young people just don't, I don't know if this person is young or whatever the hell, because if you was, who carries around a BB gun or a pellet gun? Do they still make, well, I guess so. You can go to Big Five. But like Devil's Advocate, we don't know if he had a beef with the security guard or the front desk. They don't have a front desk. You know what I'm saying? But four different places. Yeah, four different places.

Speculation on San Diego Attack

That's also true. i feel like i feel like gays don't have access to guns excuse me not like not like random acts of passion where i'm just gonna go randomly kill a security guard someone like this sounds like somebody already knew like where these places were they had like like a gun and they just.

Shot it a mile up yeah because i think when long beach pride hit i think there was like a warning around like concerns around safety around pride isn't there something like a national warning right now yeah they already yeah they had come out with that too yeah yeah so there's that and then like i don't know like and then he's yeah it's just yeah them motherfuckers are crazy yeah hateful i feel like i've i have never personally experienced gay people like brandishing weapons that weren't

like a knife a small knife or a mace or a mace this little pink mace or maybe a broken beer bottle but i don't know i just i feel like i'm gonna throw a stereotype out there and i feel like gays and guns are not common in my world i feel like i associate guns with straight people when i hear about people talking about guns it's always straight people it's never us here.

So i'm just gonna say it's a straight person and i know it in my heart i know it in my heart i know in my heart it was a dirty straight with a pellet gun and we're gonna find you bitch but it also It also sounds like a pellet gun is something like what a young person, a teenager would have. I don't know. But I'm quite sure they should have a fucking a lot of cameras. So I'm like, was he walking? Exactly. In the car or something? Yeah. Like no one saw the car.

Yeah. I mean, I don't know. A part of me wants to like...

Wants to be optimistic like a one-time thing but also feels like a warning especially since san diego pride is coming up in july you know so like it so happens they strike during pride month, but it's still before san diego pride is gonna happen you know it's very sus it feels like a very like warning i feel like it just feels like that's just the mood of straight people right now right you don't like gay people and we're just like let's go and fucking shoot up

your little fucking gay bars why do they always come try to find us like i went to we hope pride and there was two different no three different groups of those christians that are out there on their microphone loudspeaker and their signs of you're going to go to hell repent right now in front of us i'm just like why do you feel the necessity to come and ruin someone's day like i just don't get it right lame yeah like i don't go to your christmas event right like say i'm not going and making out

at your church i don't want to step foot in your church right like i don't have i don't have the thoughts to go and like ruin your festivities like what that is so fucking stupid we should do that we should go on christmas to church god is fake.

No it's just a bunch of gays we just have like a makeout right a walk sit in, but i'm quite sure them motherfuckers with those signs like what church where's your congregation because it seems like it's the same busted ass motherfuckers that's out here doing it like do you even go to church sir yeah like get the fuck on yeah i do want to know what what like right what right and where's your church at but also like their ideology is not like.

Challenging Norms

To it's like it's still very in the vein of the religion too like people want to label them as extremists but i don't feel these like christian anti-gay people are that extreme i feel like they're more the norm and maybe that's just my bias or like my are we the gay extremists oh yeah we i'll say you i think we're me and you know the gay extremists i mean i feel like we're just demanding respect i mean that's their that's their point of view that's extreme to them yeah we deserve

respect you want equality how dare you think that you should be able to get married like me but they had three sets like all you need is one you all you need is one you don't need none to tell the truth we don't need to hear it we didn't invite you, do you have a permit to be here and if they do have to have a permit why is it fucking approved, A freedom of speech. Okay. But any other time, when we're coming up to our next topic. Mm-hmm.

Okay, then. Okay, so next Christmas. Next, we're still planning Earth. We're going to be like, woke against Christmas. We're going to have a sign that says, woke against Christmas.

Anti-Christmas Campaign

And yours will say, Christmas canceled. And a big X. It's not his real birthday. I love it. So they always say that we're trying to cancel Christmas. The war on Christmas. Let's bring it we got it girl fuck christmas fuckers happy holidays only.

Celebrating Pride

What is that so do you queens got any this that all for the quick tease i think for a break i think i quenched my thirst yeah i think my tea bag is dry stop it homophobes, hey y'all Christoph here and we at the Queer LBC just want to say thank you again for all your love and support but we also wanted to let you know that you can hit that like button boo, but we really really really do appreciate a five star review on Apple and Spotify podcast or wherever you listen to the podcast at you

can also follow us on Instagram at Queer LBC to get updates on the shows and more also shit tell a friend about us get the word out you know we your favorite lgbtq plus podcast in lbc baby and welcome back to queer lbc so i wanted to just say happy pride month pride month is a month where we are able to be ourselves freely have a good time but also fight for our rights and make sure that that's how pride started, right? You know, basically fighting for our rights.

Standing with Palestine

And it's a perfect time to discuss people that are not able to fight for their rights in regards to what's going on across the world. So we're going to talk about Palestine today and regards to fighting for their right as there should be no pride doing genocide. And we are having a good time. Unfortunately, we need to also be fighting for the rights of those individuals in Palestine.

Because there's been a lot of, and granted, there have been a lot of sit-ins and a lot of things that's been happening at a lot of college campuses, which are great. But also the masses also need to step up. So we're gonna talk about that today in regards of how are we able to help. In regards to this issue that is going on and do some of these protests and some of these sit-ins at some of these colleges.

And how are we still not supporting some of these establishments that are still funding this genocide? And I know that's just a few things that we can do in regards of that, but we're going to talk about that today. If you guys are cool with that. Sounds fantastic. Fantastic. Awesome. So what are you guys view? I know, Dr. Mikey, you have very strong ties to this issue because you have been on the forefront for a couple of protests in the city. What is your view on how this is going thus far?

What do you mean? The sit-ins and with the colleges and things of that nature. I know that I've seen a lot of videos where these professors are getting cuffed away. Some of these protesters are being attacked by individuals. They're not being protected while they're doing these peaceful, quiet sit-ins and things of that nature. Yeah. Well, first of all, I think it's great that the college students are out there and are expressing themselves and holding these protests.

Because I think it's super important to raise awareness to stop the genocide in Palestine. And I think what also comes up for me is like, we're just repeating history. Like no one remembers Kent State in the 60s when people were protesting Vietnam. And it was for the same reason to make the colleges be transparent where their investments are going and to de-invest from things that are funding war.

And that's what this whole protest is about. You know, this is to help and stop what is happening in Palestine. So I think it's great. But it's also like, I think people need to realize is like. This is the resistance, you know, like all oppression is tied together because this everything that's happening in Palestine, what we're protesting, focusing, focusing on is colonization. And we've all been touched by colonization.

That's true, because a lot of people buy that. It's like a lot of people don't understand where their money is going when they're going to these colleges. Oh, yeah. Because it's expensive as fuck to go.

Oh, yeah, definitely. you're paying what almost 100 grand of fucking semester seems like i ain't been in school for about 10 years yeah and these ones are like ivy league schools like way more expensive, yeah it's just very interesting because like in reading kind of like the underpinnings of the protests at the colleges like i didn't know that colleges had this thing called like an endowment and the endowment gets invested into stock market markets and different companies in organizations and

that's the issue because colleges are taking the money that comes from students and then using it to invest in like the the things are the companies that build weapons the ones that are producing war yeah i didn't realize that either actually yeah which is like yeah i would think that you should be able to protest that yeah exactly right that's true room that should be your right if i'm giving my money to this school yeah

and then you know i was i watched the the ucla when the ucla had its encampment it was very interesting to see.

Because like the the first night that's when the zionist group attacked the encampment and like it was just on the news and everyone was just watching and the cops didn't step in the zionists were coming in and injuring people spraying spraying people like people got injured and no no one did anything the next day the cops came and cleared the encampments that's when they decided to step in the second night so like i don't know it's like i think that's why

i feel like i'm jumping all over the place but i feel like that's why like cops are part of the system and they're just upholding the system they're not here to like protect you protect us yeah they're not here for right yeah they're here to enforce laws and ones that serve the higher power yeah that's crazy, But also, I've seen one thing or some video of like, I mean, just with colleges themselves. I'm glad that the college students and the young, well, some of them ain't even

young, you know. I'm glad that people are stepping up. Because I even seen coming down the four or five, like how they have. Oh, the banner drops. The banner drops. And that's pretty cool. Just to keep, because, you know, I don't know how to say this without.

Hopefully it's not it's coming from a good place we get so busy in life that like we forget because this started back in last october yeah like this shit has been going on for for a while now, and like you don't hear a lot of people talking about it and i'm glad that those people are still doing these banner drops and then doing these marches because it continues to keep it on the the forefront of the minds of the people who put it on their back burners yeah

so i'm glad that these people are putting it on their front burners and keeping the light lit but it's just like what else can we do as a as a people to assist with this to assist with trying to you know like well you know what and i and i got the answer and it's like we got to stay on our fucking congress people you got to call their lines you got to write into them and see what they're voting because i don't even know if they even still doing what was that when they was uh trying to do the.

The ceasefire oh yeah here in long beach yeah it was like call in to robert get that motherfucker to stop pink oh so we're not pink what they call it pink washing oh yeah rainbow washing right so it's like you can't do that now that you in there to make a change stand the fuck up yeah Yeah, but I feel like that's the issue because it's like, I think, well, I guess to go back to your original question, like what to do, and I think one part is to like educate people and to have conversations about

Palestine because people keep drawing this back to like October, but like this has been happening for 70 years, right? Like the Nabok, which happened in like 1949, right? Palestinian people were kicked out of their homes and they became refugees because Zionists came and stole their homes. And that was the first instances of disenfranchisement of Palestinian people.

And it's been happening since the 40s and has gotten progressively worse until Israel took over all the land and then they established this apartheid system where Palestinians didn't have rights and they have to go through this like grueling process to cross borders for no good reason than other to make palestinian people's life miserable so like i think people need to know that this is not something new this is something that's been happening and yes it's important for the

banner drops so that we don't forget because we've been forgetting for the past 70 years what's been happening here because no one passes on this knowledge and it's also no one passes on this knowledge because congress people are getting money from apac and the powers that be that are allowing israel to have this power to produce this genocide so like i want to be optimistic and say yeah call your congress people but like a lot of people are getting money

from apac who and they're not going to go against people who line their pockets right damn so what What else can we do? Just continue to just be on the forefront? I think we need to protest and we need to disrupt things. And I think that's what these, these accountants and the colleges are attempting to do is to disrupt things. And I think that's the problem. Like people, people are always like, oh yeah, go protest.

But like, if you go protest and it's like, oh, from six to 10 and then yeah, we're done.

Like, okay. Like you raise awareness maybe, but like you, you i feel like real change happens when you disrupt the system and you disrupt people's lives think of like the sit-ins during the civil rights movement you know like the uh protests against vietnam like you need to disrupt people's lives otherwise people aren't going to change block the freeway yeah yeah that's really like i how i mean yeah he's right disrupt is like how you get through but it's like how many new ways can we disrupt in

our like real public like you would have to go to like your i don't know public office people's places right yeah like you have to go to the capital building or wherever the fuck they are at whoever who's ever opinion you're trying to change and disrupt in some kind of way and i mean the only way that you can disrupt is like.

Pause a ruckus be noisy block things yeah your physical person or because i mean like no one's gonna tell you oh go bomb a fucking building i mean that's not a way to win any hearts or minds like physically attacking anybody is not gonna win any hearts or minds so obviously never resort to physical violence but and then i mean yeah just like you said just keep on keeping on and.

Hope and keep talking to more people who are currently ignorant and i mean for as ever long as this problem is going to continue like until i mean what's their end goal extinction until they're extinct until these people are no longer existing and then the problem is over i mean yeah i feel that israel has literally said that as like part of like yeah of their their like mission for this and i think i think the ways that people are trying to navigate this and

to disrupt is i notice people are trying to disrupt people's pockets so that's why the the the what's it against starbucks oh yeah the not buying from starbucks not buying from mcdonald's like that I feel like this is how people are attempting to disrupt because it's the elites that are making this happen because they have the money and all their money is in war. I mean, and I think that's probably the biggest issue probably with the schools, right?

Is like people don't realize like how we said earlier, like that the schools use their money to like...

Put it to their political wills yeah so it's like yeah what am i saying child if we can still protest but we gotta stop buying from these corporations yeah yeah you gotta know i mean and i feel like that's why like they're going so hard right it's because they know like okay that's like how you hit us yeah right because it's working and that's yeah that's how you hit them with like with the boycott of the money yeah yeah and i think and i think part of the education is like boiling it down

to like the issue is colonization because people want to bring it down to like anti-semitism or or and and and if you speak out against israel that you're anti-semitic you know and that's just like a very surface level of what's happening you know like Like, we're trying to keep people alive. Right. Human fucking dignity, bro. Exactly. What the fuck is he talking about? Exactly. And the issue is colonization. Like, you have a group of people that just came and be like, this is my land now.

Yeah. And you need to leave. I mean, I feel like on social media, I've seen, like, a lot of very visceral comments from the Zionist side. I'll just call them Zionists if they're being pro-Israel, right? Mm-hmm. So, like, yeah. Like, very, like, super anti- And it's kind of just like, what the fuck is going on with people? It's. You don't need to, like, I mean, if you're demonizing an entire race of people, hello. Yeah. Like, that's a sign that you're doing something wrong. Yeah, exactly.

Right. Like, if somebody's government did something wrong, then you can deal with the government specifically. And that's where it should end. Mm-hmm. But if you're going to bring in the entire, a bunch of people who have nothing to do with this. Mm-hmm. I mean, I don't know what else to say besides it's extremely brutal.

Yeah yeah and i think like we need to understand that like since we've all been touched by colonization and we're still continually being impacted by it like this is why we need to stand up because let's be real like queerness was not vilified until colonization happened like speaking from my culture like queer people were held as like elders and there was nothing wrong there's a whole like sochibili sochibili is the god of gay men you know there's a whole.

Ass got dedicated to queerness and you know what happens once we got colonized by spain we got vilified right like gay queerness became bad and that's what colonization does so like i think people need to understand that like that is the connection right you know it's colonization and that you know we've been oppressed by it and we need to stand up for people who are being actively oppressed by it and it's not i know we're focusing on palestine but obviously

there's a lot more like sudan congo it's just like but it's all about fucking money like money is so fucking important to people that it makes them fucking go crazy and star wars and do all this other stupid shit yeah yeah right and and like look at like the palestine like now that is that they've cleared the homes and cleared people out of it they built a port because they're going to start extracting oil from under the land where the palestinian people lived so they're going

to make money right and then congo cobalt you know apple you know all their technology is is there you know.

I want to go to mars but it's very interesting to see because it feels like it feels like, like i remember when we were in the middle of the pandemic and it was like, black lives matter and you there's just something palpable where it's kind of like this is going to be the domino effect this is going to be the thing that like really changes it and it was like then it didn't because people didn't collectively get together you know

and i think that's why why it's so important for all of us to get collectively together because i felt that didn't happen for black lives matter as much as it should have been right i think right it should have been all poc together and unfortunately it wasn't obviously because of like people are racist and haven't like done the work but i think that that's why like.

Like oppression continued to happen like imagine if we all got behind and maybe things would be different for palestine right now you know and i feel like speaking in la and the protests i feel like the cops really learned how people protested and they're kind of like utilizing it against us you know they have so many tactics now to like corral people and to like keep people in line during protests is very interesting yeah i think smarter so we have to get smarter

or come not smart we just got to become more creative in a sense yeah Yeah. Ugh. Yeah. But yeah, I think it's definitely a tough topic because I think a lot of people feel charged because like... Talking about like the reason this conversation even came up is because people are saying like how do you support palestine they don't even like you queer people yeah that's my co-worker told me that too he was just like thought he had like something smart to say he was just like so the.

Lgbt community they support palestine but they don't like you guys or some shit like that and And I was just like, yes, you dumb bitch. I was like, well, not everybody supports Palestine, for one. Yeah. But for two, I would think that you would assume that. I would like to hope that you would see the compassion behind our actual hearts. That we could actually see past that very obvious fact.

Yeah. like no shit no nobody with like a like a deep religious background is going to be supporting gays for anything yeah right i was like i don't remember like anybody supporting us gays it doesn't matter that they don't support homosexual it doesn't matter yeah i still know that you shouldn't be genociding an entire race of people for a couple hostages like i mean i didn't support us going to iraq for 9-11 either like hello it doesn't it doesn't like doesn't compute it

doesn't yeah and then on top of that is like queer palestinian people exist like exactly so if you queer if you care like so we're connected that way like we're of course we're going to care about what happens to queer palestinian people you know they're all fucking human yeah I'm like, what the fuck was you talking about? Yeah. And it's like... One bad apple don't ruin a bunch. Mm-hmm. Yeah. And, like, there's this cool website, like, called Queer Maps.

You can go and look at, like, certain locations in the world. And you zoom in, like, there's some, like, people who posted, like, from Palestine. There's actually some really sad ones in which it's talking about, like...

Someone they they loved and had a crush on someone they loved but they didn't get to like tell them before like they got hit by bombs so it's like there's like these tragic stories of like queer life during a genocide let's say yeah yeah and then you know one thing that i've seen i've seen on social media and i think what's that rapper name no she a rapper or a singer kalani oh yeah I remember like something on her Instagram page,

like how she was like, it's fucked up how the music industry in Hollywood has been so fucking silent about this issue. And I think she like came out with like a song or something. Yeah, she did. Yeah. And I was like, that's true. Like you don't see it because money is all comes back to money. It's going to fuck up their money and they don't want to talk about it. Yeah. But if y'all really cared about human beings, because that's all it is, it's humans.

You will motherfucking talk on your social media page you'll talk about it and there's only certain ones and that's even with in in congress like those individuals in congress also need to stand the fuck up and they are also just like you said they focused about that silver lining of their pockets some of them are some of them are just not vocal yeah yeah and i think you know that the other and i guess the other fear they have but it's also related to

kind of their pocket and their money is like in the early stages of of when like in october like speaking out against israel or saying this was a genocide or that was happening to palestinian people was wrong like you got labeled anti-semitic and like obviously i still think you're still getting labeled anti-semitic but i think people are have obviously woken up and and like that's kind of changing but like i think a lot of celebrities haven't spoken up because they didn't want to get labeled

anti-semitic because it is going to hurt their pockets.

Which is sad you know but like i think more and more people are like like kalani she was actually at we hope pride i was part of like a counter protest to the pride parade so i was a group people and it was like no pride no no pride during genocide and she was coming down and we had multiple pockets of groups who were counter protesting and she brought groups with her along the parade because of her stance in support of palestine and she even like parked her car and And

she got up and marched with us. We marched into the parade until the cops stopped us and said that we were causing a ruckus. Ain't this whole thing a ruckus? Yeah, right? What do you mean? This is a whole... Everything is a ruckus. Yeah, they don't... Look at this. They stopped us and they're like, you can't... With the dudes and the thongs dancing behind them, you're causing a ruckus. Ruckus. Too much. You're offending these...

Yeah. Because we also stopped the parade. That's why it was extra long.

Yeah so yeah i think more people need to speak out against it but like i think that that's a problem like you get labeled anti-semitic and that's i feel that is very very like serious thing to kind of accuse someone of but i think saying hey you shouldn't kill people because you want their land isn't anti-semitic i'm not mentioning anything about religion i'm just saying stop killing people yeah because you won't fucking oil them yeah if you think about

like i've only seen one congress person and that's like rashid talib who's called this a genocide you know and who's actively voted against funding israel and like how many people are in government and i can only think of one One person? Yeah. That's true. I don't know anybody else. Yeah. Sad. Yeah. And I think, like, and then, like, the hard part is, like, people expect you to, like, function as normal during all this. Right. Mm-hmm.

Because, I mean, like, I haven't watched the news in months because I'm, like, it's just all, like, I don't know, wake up crying and shit. Yeah. Because that could easily be any of one of us because all it takes is some motherfucking dumb fuck to want to start a war and anything can fucking happen but the US the government is sitting on their ass like.

Father time and shit like get to it like because this is no you may think we are the, like you don't think motherfuckers can do that to us yeah you think you got everybody on you don't know who's on whose payroll yeah i mean i don't know like i feel like right now the the u.s is the big one you know we're the bullies to everyone so i feel like because of that we we like, love to just like throw our weight around and it's very obvious because i've seen like you've seen voting going

on with like icc and trying to draft documents of like genocide against like israel and try to do arrest warrants towards the the president and like us is over here vetoing things and i'm just like how does one country have like so much power like that shouldn't even exist this especially um the the u.s like y'all y'all's history is the motherfuckers who eat.

Individual Activism

Sorry it's yeah it's bananas yeah but i think like yeah it's definitely tough i don't know It is tough. It's fucked up. It's sad. It's like with all these like countries just telling you guys how many civil rights violations. How many that this is a fucking genocide. I don't know what else you want to hear, bitch. They already told you it's a genocide. And now you're sort of pretending like it's not. It's a fucking genocide. We all fucking know it. You're killing these people. Mm-hmm.

I mean at the end of the day yeah like what can we do as an individual person yeah yeah and i think like you know like we've kind of talked about it's kind of like talking to people like who. Like i know my mom and my grandma came to me and they're like can you explain to me what's happening and like i'm like you tell me what you know first and let me deprogram let me see what.

I'm doing because it's like i'm going up against yeah and like because they listen to like mainstream media and like they also don't have access to like twitter and tiktok and i feel like tiktok is like a hub of information for what's happening in palestine that's why they want to ban it so like i feel because i have that access and obviously my own knowledge of my own research of doing it like that like um mainstream media is definitely twist like they're are like not

even remotely close to explaining the history and providing context to this the situation because i feel like if you you know my husband says this and he's like if you like star wars if you like these things you understand like that the palestinian people are are the resistance in this story and we're the evil empire attempting to annihilate them with our death star i mean you should just open up twitter and be like look at these videos look at these videos of

what's happening on the ground yeah should the war stop yes or no i think all you need to do is see right yeah but like people do see those and they they still don't care because i'm not sure what it is you know like but like there are some people i mean i definitely try to block it out.

Diverse Activism Strategies

Because obviously i already know what's happening and it's depressing yeah i mean i think we definitely as a collective like i think it's understanding like yes protests like do social justice work but i think it's also finding balance and taking care of yourself too because you can't you can't be a social justice activist like 24 7 you're gonna burn out and it's and i i think I think I just wish there was some way to like collectively get like the leaders of

all these groups together to like figure something out to work collaboratively because I feel there's so much disconnect and activism that like we're just like these small little fires and we need like a huge roaring forest fire, you know?

Forgot i was saying but no you're right people need to come together instead of i don't know yeah oh you know i was saying like you know like there's there's different levels of activism you can do right there is writing letters there is going out on protests there's doing banner drops there's doing social media posts like it's understanding that you don't have to be just one, you don't have to be activists that chooses just one modality of protests there's different ways

to do it and you should probably align that to where you are emotionally and and to your capacity and that's going to make you a more more better able to navigate the big feelings that you're experiencing and and also like make your work more sustainable yeah yeah that's true make sure you do what you can in the capacity that you can yeah yeah and doing sharing stories that's That's great.

You're educating people, you know, I just, I just, cause I'm just like having, sometimes when you just see the memories of like some of the news clippings of like some of these sit-ins at the colleges and the attacks that is happening to the innocent protesters, it's just like, dude, like why are they not arrested? Yeah. What in the entire fuck? Like they are disturbing the peace. They over there quiet, quiet as a church mouse.

So like what the fuck is you talking about like it just mind boggles me yeah I don't know but one day out of a time do you guys have any other thoughts on Palestine this evening, that we may not have addressed. I mean, I think it's important to remember the spirit of pride. And the spirit of pride is an uprising and standing up against the system and fighting for your rights and fighting against oppression. Right. Because how long ago was that? 70 years? How long was the 60s? I can't do math.

About 50 years ago. 50 years ago? You can get arrested for slow dancing in a bar. Yeah. and now you can't well.

Fucking never know never know yes, yeah so like yeah be aware like how be aware of like how other people are being treated by the system you know because I feel it's like, as individuals whether part of the community or not like we're political beings because we're being politicized all the time like our especially being queer like our rights are always feel like are always up for fucking debate true you know daily daily so like i understand

and but that's also part of the system like they want to keep you occupied fighting for your rights that you don't have time to fight for someone else but but they want to make you think that it's not inter inter is not interconnected, so we all need to work together we do so thank you everyone for listening to the queer lbc, we will see you next time we love you we adore you if nobody else have told you today god damn it you're awesome,

that's my attempt at our outro so goodnight goodnight sleep tight adios.

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