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Also in gay, Mohsin Hendricks considered the first out gay imam fatally shot in South Africa. Today in lesbian, court rules against Baker who denied wedding cake to a lesbian couple. Today in trans, second federal judge temporarily blocks Trump's executive order on health care for trans youth. Today in transphobia, everything we know so far about the disturbing killing of black Minnesota trans man Sam Nordquist from them.

Also in transphobia, Trump administration moves to protect businesses accused of anti-trans discrimination. Do any of you queens know about any of these things? Told you I would get it in the one go. You did. Congratulations. Thank you very much. Another disclaimer, this story contains description of fatal violence against a black trans man.

So LGBTQ plus community members across the country are more than Sam, a 24-year-old black trans man from Minnesota who was found dead in New York State last week. Evidence suggests that Nordquist was subject to months-long physical abuse before his death, with Ontario County District Attorney James Ritz calling the case by far the worst homicide investigation that our office has ever been part of.

Norquist's remains were found on February 13th in Yates County, New York, less than a week after New York State Police began a missing persons investigation at the request of the family.

Law enforcement is reluctant to label Norquist's death as a hate crime during their ongoing investigation, saying that some of it. If not all, of the five individuals charged with this murder are members of the LGBTQ plus community themselves. New information is still emerging about Norquist's tragic death, and then we'll update this page as it becomes available. Below is everything we have learned about this devastating event so far.

Sam Norquist was a 24-year-old black trans man who lived in Oakdale, Minnesota, with his mother, Linda Norquist, during a February 15th interview with local CNN affiliate Care 11. Linda said that her son was an animal lover who worked as a group home for vulnerable adults. He had a heart of gold and wouldn't hurt anybody, she added.

Matt Parlow, who told NPR News that he worked with Nordquist at the group home, said that Nordquist loved Puma sweatsuits and TikTok and that the two shared a love of cooking. We got really close working together. He was such an amazing friend, full of life, Parlow said. There's nobody like him. On February 9th, New York State Police began a missing persons investigation upon receiving a welfare check request from Sam's Nordquist family.

Linda Nordquist told Carrie Levin that her son had traveled to New York on September 28th, 2024 to meet an online girlfriend and had planned to return to Minnesota two weeks later. In another interview with ABC5 KSTP, Nordquist's sister Kayla confirmed that Sam went to New York to visit 38-year-old Precious Azraga, who is now a suspect in his murder. The last thing Sam said is, I love you and I'll call you tomorrow. Tomorrow came and I never heard a word.

Linda Nordquist told the outlet, he sounded so sad, really sad. And Sam is an outgoing person. On February 14th, police announced via an updated missing person appeal that they had found the remains of a man who they believed to be Nordquist. One day earlier in the field in Yates County, according to the appeal, investigators determined that Nordquist had been staying at Patty's Lodge, a motel in Hopewell, New York.

Werther Zaga, and others. Law enforcement uncovered evidence suggesting that Nordquist was subject to ongoing physical abuse between December 2024 and February 2025. The facts and the circumstances of this crime are beyond deprived. Ontario County District Attorney James Ritz said during the February 14 press conference, no human being should have to endure what Sam endured.

In the appeal, the New York State Police Department stated that the Monroe County Medical Examiner Office would conduct an autopsy to confirm Norquist's cause of death. After police consulted with the Ontario County District Attorney's Office, five individuals were arrested and charged with murder in the second degree, deprived indifference.

Azaga of Canadian, oh, from Canadian Guaga, New York, 30-year-old Jennifer of Quaznano of Jovina, New York, 33-year-old Kyle Sage of Rochester, New York, 30-year-old Patrick A. Goodwin, also from Canaguaya, and 19-year-old Emily Motaka of Lima, New York. All five subjects have been arranged and are being held in Ontario County Jail at the time of writing. The investigation into Norquist's death is ongoing.

New York State Police have asked that if anyone with information about the case, reach out to New York State Police at 585-398-4100. But what they're saying is that why his death is being considered, why it's not being considered a hate crime is that on February 16th, joint statement New York State Police and Ritz said that at the time, we have no indication that Sam's murder was a hate crime.

To help elevate the understandable concerns, his murder could be a hate crime, we are disclosing that Sam and his assaultants were known to each other, identified as LGBTQ+, and at least one of the defendants lived with Sam in the time period leading up to his death.

The statement reads, official clarified that the statement that under New York State Pinnacle, a hate crime is defined as offensive, committed, and whole or substantial part because of a belief or perception regarding the race, color, national, origin, ancestry, gender, gender identity or expression, religion, religious practice, age, disability, or sexual orientation of a person regardless of whether the belief or perception is correct. We are still in the earliest stages of the investigation.

While significant evidence have been obtained, we are continuing to follow up on leads brought to the state police. We urge the community not to speculate into the motive behind the murder as we work to find justice for Sam. And then they go on to talk about a lot of other stuff, but it's a.

Pages and pages of more but it can also still be a hate crime regardless of if an individual is in the same umbrella of a classification, just because you don't think it's hate crimes and within like there's motherfuckers who hate. Bisexuals or like hate poly or like I mean but I don't understand that mindset in regards of them saying like it's not a hate crime because oh they were gay too that don't mean shit Yeah, because gay people can hate trans people. Right. Like, pretty easy.

Exactly. So it's like... Exactly. But now that's like, well, now that it's not a hate crime, because it's gay. It's like, they all have the rainbow on. But it's like, okay. But also, it didn't really mention, like, what they did, right? It just said that it was really gruesome. Right, very gruesome. But it didn't say what the gruesomeness was? So they didn't go into exact details, but they did mention that the charges against him are...

But the alleged attack, the charges against them are sickening and all the New Yorks should join together to condemn the horrific act. We are praying for Sam's North Chris family, community and loved ones who are experiencing unimaginable grief. And I'm thinking since the investigation is still going on, they're not trying to release any kind of information on how he was murdered. I don't know, but they didn't go into detail on what.

Because it sounds like it's saying that from this time to this time. Torture. They classified it as torture. That's what it sounds like, right? There's a bunch of them torturing this guy. Right. For whatever fucking reason. Yeah. And sad and fucked up. It's terrible. I hear people like comparing this to Matthew Shepard from the 90s. Yeah.

You know, and they're obviously linking it to the anti-trans rhetoric that's happening all over the country, especially from Trump and all these things that they're trying to pass.

But it's like what the fuck you go and meet somebody that you're supposed to be like getting into a relationship with and then you're like tortured by a group of people the fuck right that you consider your friends or at least his girlfriend but this is what it shows like everybody that's kinfolk ain't kinfolk yeah. I know I just rest in peace Sam and hopefully they. Put all five of them motherfuckers under the jail cell yeah what the fuck yeah maybe have a moment of silence for Sam.

R.I.P. What else do we have here today? It's always with the wedding cakes. California court rules against baker and revival of same-sex wedding cake disputes. Let's see, from CalMatters. A Kern County baker, of course! A Kern County baker violated California law when she refused to sell a cake to a lesbian couple for their wedding. A state appeals court ruled this week in a suit brought by the state's Civil Rights Department.

If this scenario sounds familiar, that's because it's central to a series of cases that have been for years shaping the nation's legal debate over free speech and anti-discrimination laws. In 2018, the U.S. Supreme Court overturned a Colorado ruling that a baker had violated that state's non-discrimination law when he refused to bake a cake for a same-sex couple's wedding.

The ruling was based on a court's finding that the Colorado Civil Rights Commission handling the case had been prejudiced against the baker's religious beliefs. The court in 2023 ruled, also in a Colorado case, in favor of a website designer who opposed same-sex marriage on religious grounds and who was afraid the state statutes could, in theory, force her to design a wedding website for a gay couple. That would violate the designer's First Amendment's rights to free expression.

The Supreme Court ruled in a decision that LGBTQ rights activists said could open the door to more discrimination in public spaces. The California decision this week draws boundaries on what counts under a business owner's rights to free expression.

In a statement, California Civil Rights Department Director Kevin Kish praised the ruling for upholding the longstanding principle guaranteeing all Californians full and equal access to services and goods in the marketplace. The case stemmed from the marriage of Eileen and Mireya Rodriguez-Del Rio, who visited Tastry's Bakery in Bakersfield to buy a cake for their wedding in August 2017.

The couple spoke with an employee and selected a pre-designed plain, white, three-tiered cake that the bakery often sells for various celebrations, including birthdays and baby showers, according to court filings. When the couple returned with friends and family for tastings the following week, Tastry's owner, Catherine Miller, refused to sell the cake upon learning it would be served at a same-sex wedding.

Disgusting. Not my cakes. Not this cake. I am gonna take a fucking stand against you queers. Miller is about Christian, who also refuses to make cakes for make cakes depicting marijuana use or sexual imagery.

She later told the court she has a bakery policy stating that wedding cakes must not contain contradict god's sacrament of marriage between a man and a woman imagine being a baker and like writing that out and be like oh i have to make like a policy right what the fuck girl where are your fucking priorities okay you should be worried about your recipes the couple filed a complaint with the state civil rights department which sued miller in 2018.

Miller, who was represented by the Beckett Fund for Religious Liberty, argued her policy was based on her religious beliefs about marriage, not animus towards LGBTQ plus people. A current county judge sided with her, ruling that Miller's policy did not violate the state's UNRU Civil Rights Act because it applies to all customers. And because Miller referred the couple to another bakery that had previously agreed to sell cakes to same-sex couples.

But they had already ruled that place out. They didn't want to go there. You can go here. This place already did it for gays. I'm not doing it for you. That's a gay bakery. That's a gay bakery. You can go there, even though you don't like it. The state appealed the decision last year and a three-judge panel at the 5th Appellate District reversed it in a unanimous ruling.

The judges ruled Miller's policy is not neutral because it could only apply to customers on the basis of their sexual orientation. They also ruled that reproducing a plain cake with no writing or decorations that Miller would have sold to anyone else does not count as being forced to express support for same-sex wedding. Duh. Dumb bitch. Drawing the contours of protected speech to include routinely produced, ordinary commercial products. Yeah, bitch.

Routinely produced, ordinary commercial products. That's what your cake is. As the artistic self-expression of the designer is unworkably overbroad, the judge wrote. Thank you for being based, Judge. Miller, through a spokesperson at the Beckett Fund, declined to comment. In a statement, her attorney and Beckett Fund Vice President Eric Rashbach said Miller would continue to run the bakery while they appealed the decision to the state Supreme Court. Um, good.

Let's see. This was not a great case for them, Cole said. The challenge in this case was, how do you draw a line between stuff that's clearly speech or expression and stuff that's clearly not? What if you're selling some kind of generic cake? You don't have First Amendment claims. Thank you. The end. Right. I'm like, how are you trying to be like, oh, this is like, what the fuck? That is not harming your expression of Christianity by selling a plain cake.

Girl, bye. And I don't know where that city is at in California, but I'm like, I'm quite sure a lot of motherfuckers ain't buying your cakes. Bakersfield. Right. So, like, a lot of people ain't buying fucking cake out there. They going to fucking Costco, getting a sheet cake, and calling it a day. Yay. That's true. Sue. Sue people. That's what I say. That's what I've been saying on this fucking podcast for the past. Sue everybody.

I mean, that's how you're going to get your rights. That's how you're going to get your rights. That's true. Sue everyone. I mean, until it goes all the way up to the Supreme Court, you know? Ugh.

Go you, lesbians, for winning. In other gay news, I finally saw Wicked. I still haven't seen it. All of the songs are not memorable. I also don't like the way... Don't get us canceled. I also don't like the way that any of these... That they have to physically depict gay people.

Like you have to be able to physically see gay people with like bleach blonde hair or like a weird hairstyle and I like indicates that they're gay and that's like how they're doing like representation I guess because the only because the gay actor is like the main other guy actor and he's straight in the in the movie and he looks, not like a homosexual he looks like like a straight person I guess he looks normal they pushed him up I had problems with acting,

and other than that I already knew Glinda was a fascist the end. Yeah there's not much more I didn't really remember much more about it it was like two hours long wasn't it yeah that's only half the movie oh I know somebody said that's coming out with a second part I was watching it while drinking I guess I'll watch it when the second part come out so I can just watch them together that makes sense marathon, So Musing Hendrix considered the first out gay.

Imam fairly shot in south africa musing hendrix believed to be the world's first out gay imam was killed on saturday february 14th in south africa according to report in the guardian hendrix who co-founded the al garba mosque in cape town as an exclusive muslim refuge was fairly shot while riding in a car after another vehicle stopped in front of them according to the police, Two unknown suspects with covered faces got out of the vehicle and started firing

multiple shots at Hendricks' vehicle, the Western Cape Force said in a statement obtained by the Guardian. Thereafter, they fled the scene and the driver noticed that Hendricks, who was seated at the back of the vehicle, was shot and killed. While police say a motive is still unknown, local LGBTQ plus organizations believe Hendricks was targeted because of his inclusive mosque, according to Associated Press.

Per the APA South Africa's Justice Ministry, is investigating the theory that the killing was an assassination.

Hendricks, who came out as gay in 96, began hosting meetings for the LGBTQ plus Muslims in 1998, later recounting to The Guardian. Hendricks' openness about his sexual orientation rankled some members of Cape Town's Muslim community during his life.

After appearing in a 2007 documentary a jihad for love a local council declared that he was out of the fold of islam that's wow it's possibly he got assassinated just because i believe so yeah i mean i don't i don't know why like they're trying to be like oh we're we're looking into it we don't really know yeah like girl bye we all know like how can you not know right you can't have that high of a fucking profile and then get fucking shot in your car and by two guys.

And it's like, what? Oh, just a mistake? We just, there were just two random guys. It was probably somebody that they hired, the government. That's because I'm like, how hard is it to find a motherfucker who just like, shot at a car in Cape Town? I've never been, but I'm quite sure it's not like, you know, hard. Like it was like a drive-by game shooting. Yeah. Damn, that's crazy. Yeah, following the documentary, he was advised I used to hire bodyguards, but he chose not to.

He said he needed to be authentic and was greater. He told the Guardian that the need to be authentic was greater than the fear to die. I respect that. I know, that's right. But also, like, you're going to get killed. Yeah. Yeah. I just hope that Maz just be able to keep his legacy alive. Yeah, especially like his message of being accepting and open. Right. I think that's so important.

They have like, so it was all, he said it's all inclusive. So like anybody, excuse me, anybody and everybody I'm assuming could have came and made things happen. But I feel like it's going to be one of those things that like becomes the start of something like bigger. I agree. Yeah. I feel like that has a lot of room to inspire lots of gay Muslims out there. I mean, we had a gay Muslim on this show. So, I mean, it's not like they don't exist. They're definitely out there.

And I mean, if they're going to be out there, why not have leaders? Yeah, exactly. Right? And if they do exist and they are out there, have space for them. Right. I mean, it's going to be happening more and more queer religious leaders.

Like just what was that other thing that just happened with like the pope allowing priest to be oh yeah gay gay priest right but then he can't ever stop calling them derogatory like what the fuck leave grandpa alone i just heard like his health ain't doing too good so that karma came for his ass quite quickly yeah i kind of saw that too but i didn't i didn't look I didn't think or say those things, right? Very sad, but I hope his people, his group, still band together and still come

together and carry his legacy, like you said. I think it's so important. I think they will. Trump administration moves to protect business accused of anti-trans discrimination from Mother Jones. The Equal Employment Opportunity Commission has begun filing motions to dismiss court cases the agency brought against businesses accused of discriminating against transgender and non-binary employees.

Federal court records show that EEOC filed to dismiss four cases related to gender identity late this week. Multiple EEOC workers who spoke to Mother Jones on the condition of anonymity say agency staff have been instructed not to investigate current or future complaints regarding gender identity. There are at least seven EEOC cases about gender identity and sexual orientation discrimination pending in the federal court system.

The EEOC received more than 3,000 charges alleging discrimination based on sexual orientation or gender identity in fiscal year 2017. 23, the most recent year for which data is available. On Friday, the EEOC asked a judge in Western District of New York to dismiss a case in which a claimant said that they were described as an it and called a transformer by their manager at Holiday Inn Express.

Holiday Inn Express has the nerve. The employee reported the alleged harassment, but we're told by a manager they weren't a good fit for the housekeeping roll and subsequently received notice that their employment was terminated. The original complaint said, wow. The motion to dismiss indicates recent administration policy changes as reasoning.

The EEOC also saw dismissal on Friday of a lawsuit which a group of transgender Wendy's employees claimed that they were on receiving end of a pervasive sexual harassment included repeatedly subjecting the transgender employees to misgendering, graphic sexual comments, unequal access to bathrooms, intrusive questions, and degrading conduct based on gender identity. Subsequently, some of the transgender employees reported seeing their hours reduced or were terminated.

In a third case, regarding a Lush Cosmetics store manager allegedly telling a transgender employee he wanted to have sex with a trans person and texting a non-binary employee about sexual acts. The EEOC filed a stipulation to dismiss on Friday. Lesch had failed to adequately investigate the harassment. The original EEOC complaint said, causing at least two employees to quit.

On Thursday, the EEOC asked a judge in Alabama to dismiss a discrimination case in which a non-binary individual alleged that they were fired from a home-two-suites hotel for not conforming to male gender stereotypes. After seeing the employee with pink nail polish and capri pants, Damn, a manager wanted the employee. Capri pants and nail polish said the manager wanted that employee hidden due to their appearance. The complaint said shortly after the employee was terminated.

The motion cites President Donald Trump's executive order on gender ideology extremism as a basis. A remaining case in which a motion to dismiss has not been yet filed regards a transgender employee at Culver's Restaurant in Michigan who alleged that he was purposely misgendered, dead-named, and asked whether he had undergone gender reassignment surgery. After the employee reported the harassment, he was fired.

While in alignment with President Donald Trump's executive order on gender ideology extremism, the motions to dismiss are at odds with a recent Supreme Court decision authored by Neil Gorosh, a Trump appointee, in the 2020 case. Bostock v. Clayton County, a 6-3 majority, concluded that firing an employee based on their sexuality or gender identity was violating of existing sex-based discrimination protections from title... Doctor. Nine.

It's always nine. It's always nine. It's a one before the X. Title nine of the 1964 Civil Rights Act. If someone says I'm not going to hire you because you're gay or I'm not going to hire you because you're a transgender individual, that's unlawful now and the Supreme Court held it, says Brian Wolfman, a Georgetown University law professor who won a sex-based employment discrimination case in front of the Supreme Court last year.

But even if a court overturns, Even if a court eventually overrules Trump's executive order on gender ideology, the individuals who file the EEOC complaints based on claims related to their gender identity may not be able to seek future recourse. Dismissals with prejudice are final judgments. Theoretically, a judge could refuse to grant the motions to dismiss or personal attorneys for the plaintiffs may be able to intervene and represent clients in the EEOC's absence.

But the former scenario isn't regularly seen, and the latter is likely feasible for vulnerable claimants who lack funds to hire private counsel. I mean, it's even more proof that the government's here for businesses and only protecting businesses. Yeah. Because this is harmful to the workers, obviously. That's so shitty. It's literally the definition of sexual harassment. I guess sexual harassment just went out the window as well.

Well, I mean, look at our president, so. The motions to dismiss follow earlier instructions from the commission now led by Trump-appointed acting chair Andrea Lucas to pause investigations into new and existing complaints based on charges of discrimination involving sexual orientation and gender identity. Employees are scared of what the administration will change next at EEOC. As a federal employee, this has definitely caused me a lot of sleepless nights, one EEOC staffer says.

I wake up every morning and think, what the fuck is it going to be today? We're trying to help people who have been discriminated against and disadvantaged, affirms another EEOC employee. The new administration's guidance to dismiss litigations based on the claimant's transgender status is discriminatory and directly violates the agency's core mission. So, damn. Well. But I wonder how long this department is going to be open for.

Like, this is like DI Central, isn't it? Right? Yeah, that's also true, right? So I guess. That's probably why they're doing this shit. Because they know it's going to probably be fucking this band anyway. Yeah. So it almost feels like, I guess, don't be complaining about nothing. Because you've got to keep your mouth shut. I mean, that's, I mean, I had thought about that too. Because I'm like, I work in like such like a hetero environment. And my boss is like a Trumper.

And I don't know what his like Christianity status is. But I'm like, hmm. Like if he just wanted to, like at any moment, he's like, bye, bitch. If he wanted to, you know what I mean? Right, yeah. But I mean, other people are obviously facing that in the reality right now. And then it's like, well, what is your recourse? There is no recourse. You know, have a backup plan. The recourse is find a new job. Yeah, unfortunately. Fuck, like that sucks.

It's already fucking hard to find a goddamn job anyway. Thoughts? What do you mean? We need a new government. I'm over it. I mean, I've been over it since the 20th of last month. Because it's just like, damn, like, it's literally workplace harassment. Like, regardless, let's, okay, let's just take out them not being trans or, like, part of the community. Like, what if this was heterosexual?

Well, yeah, what was that other one? Right. Like, it's still like, it's like nobody, like, sexual harassment.

Like you can go in there and just start grabbing dicks titties pussies just like go you know what workplace now is just a fucking free fall sex show well because that's what they were saying that one what was that lush or where was it yeah he was like sexting yeah just being like telling that person like oh i want to like fuck a trans person and it's like well what if that's just what if you're just two cis people that's definitely not correct right

yeah it's still technically sexual harassment it's sexual harassment it's literally sexual harassment like but these companies just like they're like well you're trans so it doesn't really matter it's like what the fuck it's and now you're fired bye you're causing too many problems it's giving hollywood.

I'm over it did you see that huntington beach declared itself a non-sanctuary city what the fuck they want to be special so goddamn bad it's like i saw that shit i'm not surprised, just letting you know don't go don't spend money, don't spend money in Huntington Beach y'all I tried my best not to go across that bridge girl and didn't we all tell you like when did this shit start this stupid podcast start like three five four years ago we already been talking

shit on Huntington Beach for a long ass time yeah we've been we've been telling y'all, that y'all was in danger you're in danger you are in danger in Huntington Beach I was in danger in Huntington Beach, I was accosted in Huntington Beach anyways You still thirsty? No. I think these queens have deserved it. Music. And we're back. So today I wanted to talk about, well, spirituality and spiritual. Music. Things and witchcraft and voodoo and whatever else we have.

I feel like I've tacked on a lot of bad karma. And it's time for me to get a spiritual cleansing. And with that, I have a very special guest with us today. Today we have in the studio with us a spiritual healer, a very magical person all around Bruja, bad bitch. We have with us today in the studio, Miss Ketha. Miss Ketha, would you like to introduce yourself to the studio or to the audience? Let them know who are you, what are you, and why are you? Buenos Dillas. Can you hear me now? Perfect.

Thanks for that intro. I love it. And I think it's funny that we actually have an audience today. So I'm Queta, depending on when people met me. I was born Enriqueta, and then I switched it to Queta. Or if you grew up in Torrance, it's Queta. And then I went to college and became Chicana aware. And I started telling people to call me by my name, Queta, or if you can't say that, just call me Q. So you'll meet a lot of people that will just call me Q because it makes it easier for everybody.

Why am I? I don't know. That's a hard question. I don't know. Only baby Jesus can answer that. But I don't know. What was the other one? Are you a lesbian? Yes. Gay as fuck. Okay. Let's make that clear to everybody. At work, they call me a tortillera. And I allow it because it's like totally an inside joke. So, you know, we take it, taking our power back. So that's a little term that we use at work to identify lesbians. Can you give us the history behind that?

Long story short, which I don't know how to tell because, you know, I like to tell stories in circles. So bear with me. Back in high school, I worked at this place in Torrance called Kids Concepts. And the cook and the cleaning people were, and me, were the only like non, well, I guess Latino. Everybody else was like white. Right. So the cooks, you know, would be like you guys were talking about earlier, hella sexual harassment. Right.

Making little comments about the young girls that work there and blah, blah. And so I checked one of them and he was like, pinche tortillera. And I was like, the fuck. Right. I had never heard that term. I'm 17 years old. So I go to go home and we're eating tortillas per usual at our table. And I asked my dad, I was like, hey, guess una tortillera. He's like, who the fuck called you that in Spanish? Like, you know? And so I was like, oh, this guy at work. I'm like, what does that mean?

He's like, oh, yeah. And he's like, lesbiana. And I was like, oh, really? But by then, I wasn't really out to my family. So I was like, oh, that's weird.

Why wouldn't he call me that? So the next day, I go to work. And I'm working the front. And I see my little brother walking in, like his reflection. And I was like, what the fuck is he doing here? And behind him is my dad. And he's like, hey, my dad's fucking mad. And he wants to see that guy that called you a tortillera. And I was like, oh, my God. This man's going to fucking cause a scene at work. I'm like, he called off work today.

And so, yeah, he all of a sudden, that was the day I learned my dad knew how to speak English because he went up to my boss and was like, she's 17 years old and this is sexual harassment. And he had like the guy like suspended for two weeks. And, you know, he still worked there. And then he didn't talk to me for we had our beef for like a couple months. And then we talked it out.

And then I, you know, talked to him like as a human. And I was like, hey, you know, what if your daughter's gay and somebody's, you know, talking shit to her or somebody's like harassing her and like talking about her.

Ass when she bends over right so it was cool so that's the story yeah your dad's awesome oh my god i love your dad yeah he has his pluses you know that was like you know he won't say i love you but he'll go kick somebody's ass for you right dang go daddy dang so was he like but you're not, no he never even questioned it until this day i've never come out to my dad like i've never had to. He never had to. Yeah. Like, before, because it was like, fuck you, I don't have to.

But now it's just like, why? Like, he knows. And he's actually like, was more accepting of it because he grew up like, on the streets. So he had like. I guess, trans women or, you know, women of the night looking over him in Guadalajara and stuff. So he was familiar with it, you know. And so he was way more accepting of it than my mom, actually. So I guess, yeah, I never really had to. Nice. That's cool. Very cool. Yeah. So hell you gay, hell you gay.

Nice. This is a queer. Queer LBC, baby. Queer LBC, right? Yeah. Okay. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, you can talk about that here. You know, and most queer people are brujos or brujas or magical people, you know. We are a special breed. Why do you find that is? Have you noticed that as a pattern? I feel like I noticed that too. Oh, 100. That is more common. Or not more common, but I feel like you're not going to be surprised if you find out that some gay person you know is doing weird shit.

Oh, yeah. But you don't really... Girl, we've been doing weird shit since day one. But you really don't see that a lot with straight people, I guess. Yeah. What do you think about that? And before I just thought it was a coincidence. Like I gravitated to like the queers at our high school, which, you know, I went to Torrance High, which was like hella white. And we weren't even allowed to have a LGBT club back then because they said

it wasn't going to be inclusive to everyone. which is right i love that my friend joey tried to start it and they were like nope, but when i went to college i like started like meeting other queer people like and i was like damn that's crazy like i know we get have gaydar but like you know these awesome gay people that i'm meeting like how did we all you know get to this place right fast forward graduated college And I was actually doing some work for the County of Mental Health in San Diego.

And we were doing a cohort on how to provide better services to the queer community, you know. And so one of the guys did this beautiful presentation on, like, indigenous women.

Queerness from different indigenous cultures by like showing us these pictures right and like having us write like the first word that came to mind and it was like i don't want to butcher it but like it was like in in india they have like you know what we consider like mooshes or third spirits or two spirits they have you know their own version of that right and so this person who does queer studies at san diego state was like talking about how like all the

queer people from the indigenous cultures were all the shamans the medicine women the medicine men the healers of their communities and back then it actually back then it was actually good luck to have a queer person in your family and i don't know why i'm getting emotional about it and i think it's because It's like I'm feeling everything our people have gone through to be shut down, right? You know, it goes all the way back to like before, because of colonization is

what we're going backwards, right? Like in all the bullshit. And it's like, they try to find the magic. They try to find the magic and they try to figure it out by, you know, like they said, they try to bury us, but they didn't know that we were seeds, you know, and they didn't believe in, you know, reincarnation and all that shit. So, like, we come from, like, a lineage of, if you go through your, all your DNA and all that stuff, like, you will see, like, that you have connections to, like...

Pretty badass people you know like they say like one of my spiritual healers patricia always says that like trans people were sent on this earth as what's that called grandmasters like spiritual masters because there's like different levels of like healers and stuff like that and that's because people who are trans and non-binary identifying now like they come from a lineage of like.

Or a lifetime you know like you can think of it in different ways right it just depends on how you think about it like they were reincarnated like if you put like numerology into it like they say like oh 10 is a completion of cycle so like a lot of people that are trans like have already lived so many lives lifetimes right so many lives so they've gone through and through and through and through so like this is their lifetime to get what they want like to live their

ideal life but it it's not at like a number 10 completion how they think that 10 is a perfect number because it's not you know and so i don't know that just popped up and i don't even know what we were talking about before so i liked whatever it was i was vibing with that yeah this might be like a maybe like a hard question to answer but how would you kind of like define your spirituality because i know you incorporate like a lot of different aspects like numerology and words

and letters and stuff like that so i don't know how would you define kind of your spiritual. Aspect of yourself i don't know like i don't really know about labels and stuff even when he was like oh spiritual healer i'm like oh that's because i don't know i don't i don't, labels are like so weird and now i can see why like patricia was like no labels but i'm like Yeah, because I'm like, I guess I don't want people to expect certain things.

Suspect that shit from you. I'm a spiritual healer. And I'm like, fuck you, bitch. Like, I will beat your ass. I mean, that's just me. So how I got into my spirituality, I guess, is the thing. So I grew up hella Catholic. Like, fucking did all the sacraments. Like, went to church and retreats with nuns and, like, catechism with the nuns. Like, went to church every fucking Sunday till I got a job at 16. That was my only week.

Oh, I got to work Sundays. can't go to church you know but and you know once i came out i was like kind of fuck the church but i would always cross myself every time i take my pill to get on the freeway like there's certain aspects of catholicism that i i've taken with me and i say i'm culturally catholic because like i'll celebrate certain things you know just because like it feels good to me like i'll go to Ash Wednesday, not because I have to, but because of what it represents,

you know? And so... I think, like, I stopped being religious probably around, like, 18. You know, once I came out of the closet, I was like, oh, I can't be Catholic because, you know, I'm not welcome there or whatever. But, you know, in college, I tried The Rock and, like, Christian Church or whatever. Oh, okay. I thought she was talking about, like, Dwayne, The Rock Johnson. I was like, wait a minute now. You know, I tapped into that.

I'm going to say probably 2012 when I like I lost my best friend, my cousin at the same weekend. I was like tapping into like energy work. And I was just like questioning life, you know, the fuck. And yeah, I started tapping into like yoga and Reiki and meditation.

And the first time like I have a friend I call her Chen Shine and she like guided me through this meditation on the beach and I was like bitch are we on mushrooms I was like wow like it was like, literally out of body experience and I was just like tripping out like tripping the fuck out like how can I do this without being on drugs like it was crazy also like you know when you go through a breakup like I went through a breakup around yeah same year out of

a relationship of five years so it's like you reinvent yourself and you tap into like you know I was eating good and you know walking my dogs and doing all this stuff and you know trying to be the best of me and I tapped into all that but I think like you know they say like out of your darkness like that's when you kind of like have an awakening you know and so I went through some shit where I got drugged got put into the mental hospital like eight times and

then I was like oh shit I went started seeking like, bruja help santeria help energy work that's when I met Patricia that same year who's my spiritual teacher and I was just tapping into everything I was like trying to find answers like why the fuck did this happen to me. You know, I was at my highest point, you know, working for the county of San Diego for this nonprofit. I was supervisor of like 70 people.

Like I was badass, like in my field and boom, right from under me, you know, and I had to go through that shit to realize like we all have a journey. And I wasn't that I wasn't on the right journey. It was that my work wasn't there. Right. That wasn't your calling. That wasn't my calling. Like, it wasn't the business, you know. I, you know, would get these readings or healings or whatnot, and people telling me, you know, and it goes through the lineage, you know.

Oh, you get your healing gifts, you know, through your mother's side, like curandera work. Cool. I started doing, you know, ventosas that I found out my great-grandmother used to do. But then I asked my mom, like, why haven't you ever used this medicine on us? Like, like she got a big smile. I remember when I was like, oh, I learned how to do these things called ventosas. Have you ever heard of them? And she's like, oh, my God, your grandma used to do them. And I was like, what the fuck?

Right. Like, you know how much I paid to learn this? Like, you know, you do all this life? This whole time, like, you could have been helping us. And she's like, it's because they never taught me. Like, it was all done behind closed doors. You know, it's a different generation. Yeah. You know, and so like. They would tell me like, oh, you get your gifts from your mother's side.

And, you know, I remember Patricia told me once, she was like, the first time I ever met her, and she was like, your mom, because I took my mom to see her, and she was like, you know, your mom has gifts. And I was like, yeah, I know my mom's magical, but they call her crazy here.

And so a lot of spirituality goes hand in hand with mental illness and so unfortunately for my mother she never tapped into her gifts because they scared her because she was born during a time where it wasn't okay right you know like we're in like the perfect generation for this shit to come out but if somebody would have told me i was a bruja when i was 15 years old i'd be like fuck no and i'd go to church and you know pray about it you know but it's like we're in a different time

right you know and And unfortunately, she was in a time where it wasn't okay, where they shunned the gifts or they pushed them into the church. So she was supposed to be a nun because she had these gifts. So they pushed her into the church. But unfortunately, back in the days, if you weren't a virgin, even if it was because of abuse, they wouldn't let you in the church as a nun. So then she couldn't be a nun because she had childhood sexual abuse in her

history. And so she, you know, went through a lot of mental health issues because of it, because nobody knew how to deal with it. You know, even then, because, like she said, her grandmother did a lot of this stuff, but they did it behind closed doors. You know, they wanted her to go to school, you know, be more on the mainstream because they were... They were like more, I'm not going to say they weren't high class. They were, you know, poor, but the goal always was education, you know.

Want you to be better than what you were. And so she never learned any of those. And so, and then they said, when I go to these readings again, they'd say, oh, you're a channel. And I was like, what does that mean? They're like, you, you know, you will have a connection to higher power or whatever. And it just comes through you. And so they're like, do you ever notice when you speak, like, you're like, where the fuck that come from? And I was like, yeah, all the time at work.

And they're like, yeah, when you work with the kids. And I was like, how do you know I work with kids? You know, so I'm like, oh, they're for reals, you know? And so I was like, yeah, like, things just come out of me. And it's not me. A lot of the time it's, I don't know where it comes from. You know, it just. And so they say that that's the side of my dad's side. My grandmother was a bruja and she used Catholicism.

To cover it up because they weren't called brujas back then because again it was a different generation so what's a bruja someone who chants over and over and over and over right all these spells and whatnot my grandmother was what they call guadalupana and was like lead of prayer group, you know and so right yes if we look deeper and break down religion you know there's a lot of like, brujeria and spell work up in there and all that stuff and so you know i was blessed you know

blessing a curse in disguise whatever you know at times but we all have the same gifts like we all run from energy like we all you know pick up energy i believe that so one thing i know you mentioned that you felt like you tapped in your into this energy into this practice at this at 17, 18 or something like that. But when you were a child, and I know that when we were children, we pick up on things or we feel, we know that we're different, but we just don't know how.

Because I'm not sure if you knew... I'm trying to tie this together in regards of like, did you know your sexuality when you were young? And then like, did you also feel like you was gifted in that sense of like, you know, you were different and then you didn't know how to or if you felt it anyway when you were like a child in the sense of like, you know, OK, I know I'm different.

I know I like females, but also I know I'm different because I feel like I have a gift of some sort and I just can't pick up on it. Or you feel like it happened at the time it was supposed to happen when it happened with your friend and your cousin. I think I mean, I I came out when I was like 17 to myself.

And I think once I came out I was like looking back at my childhood and I was like oh yeah that was a little gay, like yeah that was pretty gay or like my, I would have like kind of like an obsession or friendship or I was like really weird about my friendships and like sharing friends and certain friends and I was like oh yeah maybe that was a crush but because I think I was just so like, like I grew up in a like super macho Catholic Mexican home it was just like very religious yeah but then

at the same time like I didn't yeah like at 16 I would like tell my friend who was already out I'd be like girl I'm strictly dickly even though I had never had dick but I was like I think that's when I was like no like that's not me that can't be me you know so and I did come out as bi but I didn't tap into my sexuality like fluidity until like my mid thirties. So I understand that. So I never really like, yeah.

And the whole being special or having gifts, hell no, I never, I think that's why me and my friends have a saying, like they don't like it nice. Sometimes like you don't learn easy cause we were never taught easy or gentle. And I think, And I think everybody else saw it way before me. Even the gay thing, I think. I think everybody knew I was gay before I did. Like everybody knew how special you were before you knew how special you were. Yeah.

I had a best friend in high school, Amanda. I remember as you were asking me that question, that popped in my head because she wrote a book for me when I graduated college. And it literally was like, oh, I had to get that special. And she has a gift and she's ready to share it with the world. And I just... Message.

And I still have it. And... I just always just assumed it was like my gift was the work I was doing, you know, I worked in social work with foster youth and, you know, I thought that was it, you know, like, that's what my gift was.

And I, you know, as I look back, I'm like, oh, shit, you know, there were signs, but I never, I guess, like, I had to go through what I had to go through to like, really see, you know, and like, really like grow in my gifts. Because, yeah, like, I think even then, like I said, like, even the introduction, it was like, oh, oh, yeah, that's me, you know?

Sometimes you forget. Yeah, like, I think because I grew up with such low self-esteem as a kid, you know, like, it was, like, it was hard for me to see myself as special, I guess, because, yeah, that was always too much. Okay. I have two questions. One Who was your first lesbian crush? Angelina Jolie Oh my god. From hackers back in the day Oh Yes Since back then Was she your wife? Oh yeah Were there others?

Yeah She was definitely Yeah everybody knew I think like my friend For my 21st birthday Gave me like A picture of her Body pillow, If they made those back then, I think I would have gotten one for sure. And a second question is, how would you describe the core elements of your own personal practices? What is Santeria? That's my real question. What is Santeria? Well, Santeria is a religion very known in Cuba, like the Caribbeans, the islands, the,

Puerto Rico. But now it's all over. Like, it's practiced in Mexico. Like, my cousins are like, yeah, Santeria is huge over here now. Like, so Santeria, they weren't allowed. It was mostly slaves that were brought over, weren't allowed to practice. It's a, I think they call it Yorba religion. They're not, they weren't allowed to practice. So what they would do is they would use Catholic saints to mask their santos. But they represent different, different santos.

And so, So like for me, Santeria wasn't a path because it's still a religion. So it has a lot of rules and I'm not very good with rules. And so when you ask me about my core practices, I'm like, I don't have any because I'm a hot mess. I'm just like all over the place, whatever's needed that day or, you know, things like that. The one thing about Santeria is that I do pay homage and pray to and do offerings to my santos because they told me when I first...

Met a Santera, they're like, oh, your hija de Yamaya, which is a mother of the ocean. And I was like, oh, that makes sense because I'm a Pisces and I'm always at the water. Oh, okay. You know, and so. I called her a sea witch earlier, did I not call her? And so, I follow like, the trap witch. She's awesome. I've met her and like, I've had a meeting with her. right? Yeah, she's amazing. So, she's a Santera and like, I met her when she was going through her year of white.

And so like, It's very, like, very serious. Like, you have to do certain things and ceremonies, and they do do offerings of different types and stuff. And actually, my partner, her mom used to be a Santera, or was doing her white ear and decided it wasn't for her. And she gave her soul to the Lord, you know? So it's just, you know, people's paths, people's journeys. You know, she was brought up in that. It's not that timeline. Yeah, so it just depends.

It just depends. But I mean, like I said, I take certain things from Santeria. When I had my ceremonia, they, you know, they told me, oh, you're going to work with tobacco. And so they would tell me like, oh, you need to smoke tobacco every day because you pick up a lot of energy. So like you need to cleanse yourself. And I was like, oh, I smoke weed. And she was like, no, that's the cigarette. The weed smoke isn't thick enough. so you need.

And I was like, oh, that makes sense. That's why in a lot of ceremonies they smoke puros and they're like, yeah, they smoke cigars, you know. So, so she's like, okay, if you don't want to smoke, so that's I always carry a pack of American spirits because I'm like, at least they're organic, you know, a little organic. Or I try to smudge myself every day, like every day, every morning, every night just to cleanse myself. I always have smudging stuff, either sage or.

I have Ruda in the car, like, just because sometimes, you know. Just need a good smudge. Yeah, you need a good smudge. I do every day because, like, I can't stand traffic, so I got to smudge myself, you know, relax. You know, and then just, like, my interaction with people at work, you know, I work with a lot of different energies. So I smudge myself. Or if we go out, like, you're picking up, you know. Like, you're picking up. People are throwing shit at you without even knowing

it because you're just a bright light. And they're just like, boom.

You know shit just gets attracted to you like a magnet so you gotta smudge yourself i didn't think about it like that but that's a good way to think of stuff like that because i, probably need to start smudging some more yeah and not just do it on a full moon yeah you know it should be like a you know like kind of like that would be something that i would do like more, at the house we'll always burn in copal or you know like they say like you're supposed to burn like sour

stuff to cleanse the energy and like sweeter stuff for palo santo to like maintain the harmony of the energy okay now what's the sour stuff like like sage buda i don't know if rosemary would be i'm not an herbalist i really want to be but okay you know i just it hasn't come in my path yet so i always tap into my herbalist homies out there and shit you know So like, you know, ask Hector, that fool. He's probably growing it in his garden right now. Now, what's the sweet one?

Like an instant or something? No, like, you know, like, like Palo Santo would be, or I think, wouldn't rosemary be sweeter? That'd be sweet, yeah. So it's like to break the energy and then the other one's kind of just to keep it flowing. Yeah. I read that we're not supposed to use sage or whatever anymore. Is that still a thing? Do you know anything about that? A lot of people have been like, you know, it's like very mainstream now, so, you know.

But I will say this, I will not pay more than $5 for a smudging stick because that's ridiculous. Actually, I have a friend who actually told me that sage is supposed to be gifted to you. How do you use spiritual work to help others? Do you even? Yeah.

I have learned, because kind of tapping into something you had said earlier about karma, I definitely have taken a hiatus in the last, I'm going to say, three years from doing spiritual work, whereas before I was doing healing circles, meditation groups. We were doing all kinds of stuff on social media and stuff like that. We do our mushroom ceremonies, but we do that a little bit more on the low low.

But I've toned it down because, you know, as I'm going through this journey, I'm also learning and I've had a lot of amazing teachers along the way. And one thing that I was taught a little late because, you know, bitch was out here running the streets, but is that I have to ask permission before I do any cleansing or do any spiritual work to help anybody because karma. So I could be cleansing somebody. Who ain't supposed to be fucking cleansed. Exactly.

And so where does that karma, you know, some people got to pay what they did and you're going to pay, like my aunt always said, todo en esta vida se paga.

So like you're going to pay for it one way or another. so if I'm cleansing you and you got some fucked up shit coming your way guess where it's gonna go, my way because I chose to cleanse you so that karma gotta go somewhere because it's all energy and so I've learned to have to ask permission and I've tapped into more like, I'll have sessions like I'll do ventosas so that's like where I do my spiritual work either readings or ventosas so I'll do tarot readings or whatnot if people

ask before I used to offer them all the fucking Now I just, if people ask, I'm down, you know? Half the time I don't even charge just cause. I like doing it, you know, but at the same time, like, you know. Energy exchange, you know, is always welcomed, grateful for it. Anyways, and so I've had sessions where I'm just like, oh, I don't know. Fuck. You get that energy on that body. Like, you know what, this. But I'll never cancel. I won't cancel because I always say if it ain't meant to be,

it ain't meant to be. And oh, shit, I got COVID. Can't make it. All right, girl, I'll take care. I'll see you in 14 days. That's good. You know? You know, so things like that happen, you know, and so that's why, you know, I always my girlfriend gets mad because like I always be like, Jesus, take the wheel. You know, let go, let God, you know. And so sometimes I have to do that, say it out loud, even though it's a, you know, we use it as a mockery.

But at the same time, you know, she knows what's up. She, they, whatever you want to call them, you know, there is a higher power. And they, like they say, their plan is greater than yours, you know. That's why, you know, culturally Catholic, like my mom always instilled in us, si Dios quiere, you know, Lord willing. You always got to say si Dios quiere because si Dios no quiere, it's not going to happen. And damn, she right. Because sometimes I'm like, fuck, I didn't say it, you know.

And things just, you know, go the way they're supposed to go. You know, you got one plan and sometimes that's not what it's supposed to be. So I've had to tap in and learn to listen to that a lot more so that would be a question how would you explain to someone on how they could.

Listen or understand if they feel like they have a gift how they can tap in in the event that they feel like they have some kind of cosmic gift or healing energy or understanding mindset that they know that like they have a special gift how can they tap into that energy is it like a more of a mindset or is it more of just like a opening up your your heart and your soul or like is there a way that you see fit versus you know i'm saying like if there's a way that a person can

tap in into that yeah you can set up a streaming session with me and my homies at the.

Plug yourself plug it I mean definitely through ceremonies you know doing it the right way buying a deck of cards that call to you and you know doing readings on yourself pulling a deck asking a question getting familiar with it like literally like pulling a card every morning you know and just getting those affirmations that you need because that's all the tarot is is just that, it's just a tool to get the messages that we need to hear right you know because sometimes we

need to hear it in different ways sometimes we're visual learners so we need to see it i get a lot of my messages with songs you know i'll be like listening to music and all of a sudden my playlist will play some random song and i'll literally be like thinking a question or something and like the answer will be in the song like you know so it's like i guess the first thing would be like.

Maybe meditating like so that you can connect to yourself. Cause at the end of the day, like connecting to your higher power is just connecting to your higher self. You know, like we are one, one love, like it's a boomerang, you know? And so I think definitely meditating so that you can tune out everything, you know, the bullshit.

Yeah. And so like my friend Troy back in like 2012, when I started tapping in, like because I have ADHD like you see I tell stories like I'm all over the fucking place.

And he was one of the first ones to teach me like yoga and like meditating and breath work and so the best way and I still use it till this day and I would use it when I would teach the kids you know mindfulness like he's like imagine your brain and your thoughts like as you're meditating whether you're listening to a guided meditation or music is like it's like an you're a phone you have like all these windows open and so a thought comes up just swipe it out a thought comes up just swipe

it out swipe it out until your phone is like clear and that's like the best way that I was able to like really tune in and be able to meditate you know and connect to like my higher self which is my higher power you know and at the end of the day it's all the same you know or at least that's what i believe that's right then in that vein i'm gonna show you a list of questions, and you can decide which one resonates with you and you can answer accordingly.

Here's some questions he said i have a list of questions 20 minutes ago he's like i was not I'm prepared. Breathe into yourself silently. Thank you, chat. Whichever question could gravitate to most, we can discuss next. And I'm dyslexic, so it takes me a little bit to read this shit. There's also more if you want. If none of these have gravitated enough. I guess, just the first one, I guess. advice for queer people looking to reclaim

their spiritual or ancestral traditions. I mean, you know, it's cheesy, but it gets better for the youngins. And I think like, yeah, start looking into your lineage and seeing like that our people have always been here and they've always like triumphed.

Listen to El Corrido de Silvia Rivera, watch, you know, I'm gonna tell you all the Latino ones because you know that's my lineage so you do your own work, on Netflix you have Los Secretos Del Rio that is a beautiful queer story, and there's The Baile de los Cuarenta y Dos which is like. Legit back from like Porfirio Diaz days, like back in the days. And I believe that I feel like one of my ancestors was probably at that party, but that's just me, you know, that's, that's what I want to believe.

So definitely tap into the queerness that came before you.

And I think that unfortunately, like we lost a lot of our queer people in the, you know, 80s and 90s and early 2000s and so you know there is stuff out there you know support queer shows go to your local drag shows like that's healing go dance that's healing like that's ceremony like you're shaking shit off and it's like ritual you know like think about ceremonies of indigenous people they're always dancing around a fucking fire yo so you know go dance like i feel

like that's that's probably where i felt like the most that's probably where i felt the safest is always on the dance floor okay in queer spaces you know and i think that's what i realized i was gay because i was like i'm going to pride to support my friends i'm an ally i'm an ally and then i'm like let's go every year for 17 years later here we are so i think yeah find community build your own community like I think that that's healing you know like doing.

Simple things you know so it's still we're visible you know we're out there and we're you know support queer podcasts you know come on second plug you know all that good shit, do you gravitate to any of these other questions.

While you look at that question did you ever see the movie monkey man no it's a it's a movie that came out it was based from a guy from india indian descent and but when you mentioned like the queer and the trans people were hillers in the movie they showed that like and that brought a memory back to me like you know what like that's how we should be looking back for our ancestors and looking out for our trust community

because they are our healers and i mean just even with marcia back at stonewall you know i'm saying so like we need y'all and we have to be you know at the front line for you motherfuckers so i just wanted to throw that out wrong enough out there. That's true. Because, yeah, a lot of people and I think a lot of.

Have a lot of younger queer there's so many more young i think there's more queer youth than there is older queer you know and they they definitely know no my nephew's like fuck he might be 30 already but when he was like in college he was like oh i'm doing a report you know for my queer studies class and we're interviewing you know about history and i was like what he's like i wanted to interview you because you know you were on the no on eight

protests and i was like what the fuck like that's history i'm like that just happened like yesterday you're like you have a queer studies program so it's like yeah they they they need to know they need to know you know why, people are mad about what's happening you know like we fought for shit to happen to change for shit should just be taken back like the fuck right but we're used to that with this country you know i mean back to the well they're like treaty the guadalupe or whatever

or all that manifest destiny bullshit you know they've been fucking it up since then but that's another day another topic but. Yeah educate some little queer kids, and adults, and straight people, like everybody, but, you know, they gotta do their own homework too, shit. Do I work with dieties, spirits, and, or ancestor? Yes, to all of the above, I pick C. It's, I think my spirituality is, like, literally all-inclusive because, legit, I didn't get here by myself.

You know, they say, to heal ourselves we have to heal seven generations forward, seven generations back, and on top of that, we need to move to the sides, you know, because we're trees. So we got to hit all the branches. So it's not a up and down type of healing. That's why it's all all over the place. You know, you have your ups and downs because there's a lot of healing to do. And as people that are gifted in a lot of our queer people like are gifted.

So like a lot of that baggage from our ancestry kind of like falls on our shoulders, unfortunately. Like, and that's just kind of like, I don't know how the cookie crumbles or whatever that saying is, but it's just, you know, that's what they say, you know, and I've been told too that my spirit chose this. And I was like, really, my spirit chose to go through some fucked up shit. But I guess they said, you know, only your spirit was strong enough.

So I got to believe that, you know, and so with that, I definitely hit up my ancestors. My grandma, my grandpa are always watching over me, probably making sure I don't fuck shit up for the family. And then my great grandma's always with me. And so like those three are always with me whenever I go into any like healing spaces. Like they let their presence be known. Dietes, the Virgen de Guadalupe always every day. I need a new T-shirt, Amado, just saying, if you're listening.

And, you know, my spirit guide, baby Jesus, because I believe in all that stuff. You know, I'm not a Christian, but I believe he was here and he did all that good stuff. But I don't think he's the only motherfucker. Only one, maybe, now. You know, because I feel like there's been a lot. And so, you know, I like to give credit where credit is due. So, you know, with the Virgen de Guadalupe, like, you know, going back to the, you know, reincarnations, you know, she used to be Tonansi.

And before that, she was known as Cuatlicue.

And so because they have darkness to them you know the colonizers didn't want all that so they you know painted a pretty picture that looked like the indigenous people and we call her guadalupe what kind of darkness you know any darkness without darkness you can't see the light without darkness there is no need for light because then what would it be right and so it's a balance and we all have you know dark and light inside yeah that i mean every indigenous

and ancient culture you know it's the yin and the yang like it's just in woman form you know she. You know is is the good and the bad you know she's birth and rebirth you know because a lot of people you know like in the tarot readings when you get a death card they think it's a bad thing but Right. It's not. It's a rebirth because something has to end for something to begin.

Most part you know at most times and then another diety is uh sochipile of course, gotta give a shout out to the homie of music flowers and our beautiful mushroom plant medicine so we always honor them during ceremonies and things like that you know i also tap into.

San hudas i like legit went to when my mom was like on her deathbed i went to a catholic church in la because they had like a fucking piece of his arm bitch there was a line around the block and i stood in that line and i went and i prayed cried did all my thing and took a picture you know i felt a little disrespectful but everybody else was doing it so you know and so you know my my saints, my guardian angels, I got them all.

And San Antonio, like I pray St. Anthony anytime I lose something, I'm praying to him. You know, there's certain prayers that I learned, not in like Catholicism school, but like through my grandma and my mom. And that's like one prayer that I always pray when I'm feeling even anxious. Like you're supposed to like pray it three times and stuff.

And legit that shit works. Because one time I lost my passport and then I was like, fuck I prayed and then all of a sudden was under my gas pedal and I was like okay I believe you know so, so yeah I definitely have dieties that I hit up and, ancestors for sure cause I wouldn't be here without them and who else yeah I got all the homies that are part of the healing homies network.

Now that's something I will subscribe to there you go the Healing Homies Network HHN there you go that's what our collective is called but we like I said we took a hiatus are you guys coming back onto social media, maybe after this if people hit up an interest you know of ceremonies or some card readings is the page still active yeah oh okay yeah we'll make sure to put that in there yeah I haven't updated in a while but yeah that's right they

can go and do some research you know look it up look it up, sound it out it's spelled how it sound any other spiritual questions any other spiritual thoughts, anything you want to share with the listener anything lesbian, We have a big lesbian fan base. Love that lesbian. Love that lesbian. Love that lesbian. I do love a lesbian, yeah. I'm actually engaged to one. How was your Valentine's? It was fun. We went and watched the boys play at the IZM Brewery. Oh, okay. Oh, at the IZM. Yeah. IZM.

Yeah. Yeah, then did some brouhaha things at the beach, so. Nice. It was a great, great night. What kind of brouhaha things? You know, letting go of some stuff that needed to be let go of, you know. And to the ocean. Leaving the darkness in the darkness. I know that's right. Giving it to the whales. Mm-hmm. They can handle it. She'll handle it. You want to give her anything. She ain't a sea wish for nothing. You know, she'll take it because energy to her is just energy.

Whether to you it's good or bad, you're giving her something. She's taking the offering. There you go. There you go. Any other? The more you know. Bula. Well, unless you guys have anything else. No, this is very insightful. Thank you for the free therapy session. I guess I needed to let go some stuff. A little energy exchange. Please edit the moco snifflings. Well, if that's it from everybody here, I'd like to say thank you to our very special guest, Keta.

Thank you. Thank you, y'all. I'd like to say thank you to myself, to Dr. Mikey and Christophe, from all of us here at the Queer OBC. You're good enough. You're smart enough. And don't call it. People like you. Good night. Good night, Lomi. Sleep tight. Buenas noches. Thank you. Bye.