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There is actually no quick tea so today i wanted to talk to you about our favorite topic here at the queer lbc yes girl you know it aliens ufos galeons terrestrials so extra they will below your mind and to help us talk about this very spooky topic we have our very spooky and very special guest, a gay UFO witness himself, Beau. Welcome, Beau. Please introduce yourself. Who are you? What are you? Why are you? Well, okay, well, I don't want you to misidentify me.

I am spooky as hell, witchy as hell, and also gay as hell. Okay, thanks. So identify as all three. No ease. But I guess in short, I'm a very average person. I work in retail. I'm just a gay guy. I I used to live in Los Angeles, like just a very normal, normal life. And I think the reason I really wanted to talk about this subject is you'd be shocked on how many normal people experience something truly extraordinary that no one's talking about.

And that's whether that's a paranormal thing or something that we just don't understand yet, it's happening and it's happening to just very ordinary people. Not that i'm just but hold on i'm not just ordinary i am also fabulous.

But there's also a lot of there's all there's a lot of fabulous people that are experiencing very paranormal things and i want to be an example of that like i you don't see a presence of me on social media really or google or anything like that so i hope that that gives credibility to any of your listeners knowing that like if you see something don't feel like it's like silly or whatever like talk about it because it's a very interesting topic and it's happening it's happening

around us so we just don't talk about it's so odd see that folks she's real welcome thanks that was a very long explanation to basically say i'm a fabulously ordinary person experience something you're an alien superstar exactly okay cool nice to have you in but i wanted to ask you all you gays ufos are they real are they from outer space interdimensional or just international or just go off queens what do you guys what is your guys personal histories with this subject

first i want to go with to dr mikey what do you know about ufos and what's what is your vibe yeah i've never seen a ufo i always wanted to but i do believe in them i i I do believe that we're not alone. You know, there has to be, like, other intelligence out there. I'm not sure why they would want to visit us. Oh. You know, I just feel like we're kind of, like, a cesspool to the rest of the universe. If you can come and space travel, like, we're below your intelligence, obviously.

So I don't know what they can learn from us. I've heard a bunch of theories. I hear about, like, the interdimensional theory, them being from the ocean theory. So I watch a lot of ancient aliens as well. What do you think about this ocean ship i think that you know it's plausible because i also read or i read i heard on tiktok.

It's a new source, you just time sent this podcast you were reading yes, tiktok reading about dark oxygen so there's these blocks in the bottom of the ocean that are releasing oxygen, and it goes against, like, how we thought, like, it was made. We thought you need a sun, and that was the only way to produce oxygen, you know? The vast majority of the ocean is, like, unstudied or explored, so I think there's definitely some shit down there.

So it's understandable. I can see how it's coming from there. That would be cool. What about you, Mr. Kristoff? Well, I believe in aliens, and I know they exist. I have not seen one, but I know they walk among us.

But, and I also feel like they, just how you feel about the water i feel it with space i know it's just like so so vast right like it's uncharted territory so i mean who knows what's out there so yeah that's i believe in all of it because i just i just don't know i'd like to know the unknown okay okay in the sense okay, so then i'm gonna come over to my guest that we brought specifically for this episode i want to to ask you what is your history with ufos actually start from

like when you were youngest like when was your first memory yeah like media even just like you guys want this to be a very long podcast.

Well i guess i actually was more aligned with mikey like when you said that you felt like it was other it could be interdimensional or like there's so many theories i actually felt like i was more aligned with that prior to my experience and i still actually weirdly am aligned with i don't know like i really don't know what that is i'm not gonna put it in a box because i don't know what it is anyway before that i knew something was else but i also kind of looked at it as very novel and

like yeah but whatever like that's not true like that was actually the feeling i really had and i felt like it was cool to think about but i actually also didn't really care i was a teenage well when i saw this i was young 20s but when i was a teenager or thinking about ufos and paranormal it was more just like fascinating movie talk it was not like oh i wonder if anyone has a good story about it or if anyone knows about it or i'm curious

if anyone has stories i was never curious if anyone had an account and the people that had accounts i immediately subject them into or like put them in a box of they're crazy or they're lying or whatever like that's just my own assumption on that so it was kind of more like how society actually was in this time that I saw what I saw. Which was kind of around 2009. So think like Paris Hillen. Think like when she

was hot. Oh, yeah. Like imagine a Paris Hillen, like that era. What a great time frame. I know, I miss it. I'm listening to her book, no plug. And I'm like, oh, I miss her so much. She's still here. She made an album. I know, that is true. She's out there DJing. I miss her. Right? I miss her. If you're listening, Paris, I still miss, or I still love you. And I miss you. And I miss you. I'll always miss you.

Well, anyway, it was around that time and that in the news cycle, if you mentioned ufo or anything it typically was just immediately like joked about and the people that were witnesses were just a joke so that's just where my head was it was very i was a gay teen so everything we're not 18 i was a gay 20 year old everything was based off of tv like i literally was like a kardashian in my head a parasol in my head lindsey like i was that so

like ufos if that was added in it was more of like i thought of it as like a joke movie kind of sense Right, definitely not even in your radar. Yeah, not in my shitty town that I'm getting out of. I'm moving to Los Angeles. If anyone in Clemonton, New Jersey, because this is also I wanted to name the town. If anyone ever hears this that I hated Clemonton, New Jersey so much and it gets offended, good. Move. I just wanted to put that in there. Sorry, Clemonton, but not sorry.

So, you said you saw something. Yes. Please explain to me what happened on this day. So I, like any day, I mean, I'm sure this is how most accounts are. You really are just doing your normal life. You're not looking into the sky or you're not like going on a UFO hunt. Like it's not like that. It happens out of, or happened to me out of nowhere, out of context. Like I was like not drunk. I was not like in a fight. Like there was no haze around what was happening.

It was such an ordinary part of my life. Then all of a sudden, boom, my life changed. So I was, so this is why you guys actually have me because I'm a gay, gay guy. This is how the gay part comes into the UFO part. No, they did not have sex with me. I'm sorry. No anal probing. No anal probing, guys. I was on our way to a Craigslist, um, like sex thing, whatever we call that as like a hookup, a hookup. Yeah.

And I never told anyone that actually. In fact, so I've only told 10 people in my life about this UFO experience and none of them, not one know about this Craigslist thing.

And the reason behind that is because i felt like it gave such a silly spin to it that it didn't need it like i didn't want people to be like wait what you went to go figure right yeah right so what happened there like fuck that ufo what happened at the yeah i did end up going by the way um i'm also sorry to my husband that's definitely listening it'd be like what i mean it's part of the story sir yes i'm sorry i'm sorry and i also i did not know him at 20.

It doesn't count yes well anyway so i'm at the light and i'm heading to my appointment and i'm just kind of minding my business but i want to set up the scene before i kind of tell you like how it happened because what how the scene was is so important to me and i it's burnt in my brain of the scene and the feeling and the weather and all of that so it's at night and i'm at this it's kind of a busier intersection but it's late at night and there's not really a lot of cars going,

but across the way is a woman waiting for a bus stop and it's very silent.

And it's just like a summer night where it's like there's a lot of stars in the sky but it's just like silent somehow there's not like a lot of wind going on that's how i felt like it was just like a silent moment in time well anyway so i'm minding my business this is before cell phones were really like had internet like that so i wasn't looking at my phone i was just kind of like whatever i was thinking about probably d if i'm being honest and the d i'm about to get well i

saw this like structure come over the tree line and the trees in new jersey specifically around in that area are not like redwoods they're more like a like trees around long beach just like an oak tree or whatever yeah so that's got to be two stories top three top stories so i'm looking up at the tree line and the structure is coming towards me but it's dark i can see like dim dim lights.

But all my brain is doing because it happens actually pretty fast that this whole account happens my brain is just processing like things like okay it's silent okay why isn't that woman looking up okay what are those lights okay like why is it moving over me like i could only think in like fragments and as it was going over me i was just taking it all in like visually i'm just like taking it in and as i was doing that i look over at the woman and she's not she just doesn't notice and i

thought that was so odd like i'm like what is going on like what is going on with me so i look out and my windows are down i look out and i can just see the back of it and to this day i can never ever describe what the structure was it went up into the sky and i can see this the stars but it was almost like concave like the structure coming towards me was flat not like think of like a big box coming towards you and it's on its side but

like football field size this was i meant to tell you football field size structure damn so my brain wasn't thinking like helicopter or air balloon no i was thinking why is walmart flying over top of me in the dark and no one sees it yes so i instantly so i turn around because i'm still processing i'm not I'm thinking I'm seeing a UFO. Cool. Or what's whatever. I'm literally like trying to be like, what's going on? What's going on?

So I turned around, I do that and I get instantly freaked out and I felt this feeling of like, I don't want to see anymore. And I turned around and I was like, I don't want to see anymore. Like I just instantly like something inside of me actually felt like stop looking.

And that's what I did. I did literally stop looking. And then for the rest of my thoughts about this whole experience, I just think about that whole scene and I only think about still the fragments I don't try to be like this is what it was or this is also an extra detail I just think about what I experienced and how I felt and the actual structure that was flat coming over me I don't even know if I was flying. It wasn't making any noise none. I,

it was like silent like this. And the only noise was what I was making or, you know, this outside, I don't even think I remember hearing birds, nothing. It was just silent. And I remember being like driving away and being like, what the hell did I just say? Like, was that, what the hell was it? What did I just say? So it scared the hell out of me. And no, it's not something I would ever want to see again.

Like a lot of people are like, oh, I wish I could see a UFO or I would want to to see another one or i don't know i personally i would never want to see it again because it's kind of like seeing a wild animal very close you don't know what's going to happen yeah and that feeling i don't like it doesn't make me feel comfortable i don't like being in the like wilderness i went to yellowstone once and being close to buffalo you'd think

like oh a big cow that still scared me because they said you need to stay away like 200 feet because they will charge you like you don't know wild animals so seeing that that's the only way i can attribute how i felt was like i know hell no i don't want to see that again yeah that was so scary to me i didn't know what was going to happen next i just you feel like when you saw it gave you an eerie feeling yeah it was just like i know your brain was still trying to process like what the hell

could that be but like the feeling itself that came over you was like a eerie scary kind of feeling or it's now and after so like when it was happening no i was not scared oh but now talking about it and And after, like when it happened, or I should have said that backwards, after until this moment, this very moment of me talking about it, I'm scared. Because it was something that I really can't explain. I've never seen again.

The closest thing I've ever seen was when they talk about this thing called Phoenix Lights, but I've never seen anything like it again. And to see something in that scale, even if it was American made or man-made or whatever, to see something that silent and that secretive made me feel so eerie. Like feel like, what? I don't know anything. I don't know one thing, like truly, yeah. So then after you see it in the car, do you continue to go to the hookup's house

and then do you tell him about it? No. You didn't tell him? No, I was still like a young baby gay, so I didn't wanna like, to me I was like, we're gonna date after this. Well, we're still gonna hear this whole story. So, okay, so you get to the hookup's house, you're like still scared in your head or you're like, and then he's just like, mm, let's kiss. Well, I guess we gotta talk about this because this is a gay podcast.

He actually kind of i think was into it because i was very shaky and i was kind of young if i'm being honest so we're getting into taboo here sorry guys but he was a little older and i think he thought i was being nervous but he didn't realize i was like nervous right you thought you was nervous for the day he's like no i just see something fucking fly over yes existential crisis yes i remember i was like shaking and he was like don't be nervous i'm not gonna hurt you.

Young man oh shit bitch i'm not scared about you yeah the fuck i was definitely but i then we finished but because you're young you know whatever i was like whatever but then i just went home straight away this is pretty important too because i'm gonna have my sister listen which sorry neither you had to hear all that but i went to my sister immediately and me and my sister's relationship just to kind of give you background at that time we were she's a teenage girl popular teenage girl I was

more of like an introvert gay older brother and we just didn't hang out like that so the first person usually I would tell tell things to secretive things would be a best friend you know like that kind of moment but I knew in that moment I needed someone that would really hear me and really understand that I'm not lying and that I don't lie about things like this and like all that I needed someone to really be like you're not crazy so after the

hookup I went straight to my sister and I was like Nina this just happened because the hookup actually happened really fast so actually that guy's listening it's not worth okay but i went back to his or my sister and i was like you know like what this happened she believed me right away we went outside and we looked up in the sky for a long time and i remember being like so thankful that i told her because.

What happened was i ended up telling her things that she was able to remind me on because i was in the moment and like usually when something happens to you you say all that's in your brain and you're spilling out all these details you don't realize but then they kind of go away. Like there are certain things about that account I'm sure that my sister would be able to fill in and be like, oh no, you came in and said that it was blah because at that time I was still so shaken up.

Yeah. I feel that. I feel that. And to this day, like that's, I add her in the story mainly because, if you are, and I usually talk, like I said, I've only told 10 people in my close life about this experience and that's actually only happened until recently but I, I...

So happy that i grabbed my sister because she's the one person in my life that's always been so stable and has always been like able to say like you know she just tells it how it is and i knew at that moment like as much as we were she was a teenager and i was just an older gay guy so we weren't that close i still had the sense of like she's always going to back me up if i had to like tell this story again because i know she trusts she believes

me and i know that her beliefs make me feel like it made me feel like validated so thank you nina if you ever hear that did you only tell a limited people because you were afraid of ridicule or you just didn't care okay ridicule ridicule because really i was already going through the whole gay thing but i didn't really care when i moved to la when i moved to la it's like be gay girl but in new jersey i'm sorry in new jersey where i was around like clementine it was very

homophobic area and that's actually why i said so much trash about the town beforehand okay so to be like i'm gay and different and also So I was way overweight. It's like, I'm gay, different, overweight, sexing around with the random strangers of Craigslist. And I believe in UFOs. That just was like, no girl, you gotta like pick your battles. They was like, pick a frugal. Yeah. I definitely was like, no, this is not the time. But the people I told it kind of, I waited so long.

Like I would wait until I knew if I could really trust that person. And then they're not going to be like, whatever until recently, like once it started becoming on the news and I felt like more, i can just tell my story because it feels a little bit more i feel like i can see other i can hear other stories and i can hear the truth in their voice because of what i experienced yeah yeah so it makes me feel like i'm less alone when you were growing up did you ever see like those inquire.

Tabloids back in the day i don't know if y'all remember those either oh if y'all yeah national choir and shit yeah because they used to always have those like those breaking like fbi documents documents, fucking aliens, spotted, UFO. And I like... And I feel like at that time, that's when publication was like really important. Yeah. When it was like, right. You know, like they knew that national choir was bullshit. Right. Exactly. Every other news source at the time was legitimate or it seemed

so as opposed to today. Right. Everybody's trash. So like there's no real track, no real news. But yeah, I was like, that's almost give me the, I, that's why I believe in that shit. And glad that you came out unscathed.

Thanks. I'm glad I came out. of clementine right no i i'm glad i came out on scape too and to be honest this is gonna make me sound so bad shit but i watch these things or hear these accounts where people are like abducted or whatever their story and i look at it so differently now and i know it's because i have to hear it from a point of view that's not a movie hollywood story right i have to hear the person's voice i have to hear like how they felt like there's so many there's so much more to

people's stories that with when it comes to this paranormal like everything paranormal ghost everything that you really have to like listen to the what they're saying and realize like sometimes yes it is for attention but sometimes it's truly like it's an account that happened to them and they can't explain it and the only way to explain it is to say it as raw as it is i saw a ghost and people are very shocked by that information like when i immediately say

to someone that's a stranger i saw ufo people who roll their eyes it'll be like even now like they'll be like. But I'm like, girl, you'd be right on this side if you were there in that car with me on the way to the dick appointment. You would be like, yes, we saw you fell. It was that evident. And when I see things like on the news or people that are, anyone that's on the news kind of bashing it or saying things like, it was a weather balloon.

I immediately like, either you are, you don't want to admit it and you may have seen it, which is usually a very, there's a very small percentage of people that actually have seen a real ufo i don't find that to be elitist i find that to be very, that's actually even even one person seeing it should be extraordinary like and looked into so when i think of like a small percentage of people seeing it that's still something that should be like we didn't study and

acknowledge and also not made fun of because what do you mean that's a that's real science like there's a percentage let's look into that percentage does that means that percentage is crazy or maybe like what if i had a visual impairment that is not something we know yet but it comes off as a ufo structure it could be as real as that like why don't we even research like like yeah if i am crazy because i'm seeing ufos why don't we research why i'm

seeing crazy ufos yes why has it been such a thing like why have people said that like they've seen things in the sky that are not from this world like why that seems like such a repetitive story are we not creative enough to think of something more creative, you know? So I think it's the same thing with a lot of things we hear that are paranormal, that it's like, yeah, well, why are those stories so old? And why are people regurgitating the same thing? Because there has to be something to it.

Something behind it. Yes. What makes a person see that and experience that? Yeah, that's true. Yeah. What changed in your life after this experience? Big part was my religion, actually. Oh, okay. Which I think is a lot of why people try to hide, like government hides this situation. This is just my opinion, by the way. I'm not like a government conspiracy person. But I think PR, because I am a Hollywood guy. So the PR of finding out that religion isn't as cut and drive,

Jesus and God. It's not that. I think it would be a nightmare for a lot of like little weird random things that we don't even think about. Like there are a lot of religious foundations to a lot of like random corporate. Like there's just so much. that I think if people started to reconsider religion in a big way, a lot of money would be lost. Sorry to be as real as it could be, but that is just the truth. Religion is money.

Well, hold on to your butts, Queens, because actually what I didn't tell you is it made me more religious.

Gotcha bitch because actually what it did is it made me realize that there is something bigger than myself and i believe that god is within me so like i really truly don't believe like you got to go to church and you had to do this that and the other thing i literally believe god speaks within me because there's something else and i just that night it made me think like whoa i don't understand one thing but all i do know

is like i love the feeling of knowing my ancestors are looking after after me or i love the feeling of like following my intuition.

Like things like that and i think that's god speaking through me or whatever so to me it changed me in a more religious way weirdly like i would before that was like i actually was raised catholic and i was very like brought to like go to church and do all that not my friend my friend my family by the way my town is very catholic and everyone in my town went to this thing called ccd i can get onto that another podcast of the religion podcast but i was brought up in that world of just like

god is real so don't even question it do you need to do this and you better not be gay because you need to do this like i grew up in that mindset but when i saw that and realized that there's so much more that we don't understand i was like oh i like what can i understand i understand these things and one of those was following my intuition and i i am a big believer in believing that my ancestors watch out for me so a lot of times when i pray i pray directly to

them i don't say dear god help me i'm literally like you know grandma trot or big grandma please like guide me or give me a sign like that because of that event literally nice so and it's weird my family aren't like that so i know it's because of that event like they don't think that ancestors are god but i for some reason after that i was like that's just in me and i want to follow that because you can only go on things that I understand mm-hmm.

And that's not even that I understand that. It's more that I understand how it makes me feel, which is very safe and secure, which is, I think, what religion makes people feel. Yeah. UFOs don't make people feel safe and secure. Not that me either. No, they don't. No.

So I have a UFO story, too. And it's weird because it actually relates to yours. So in my story, your story actually directly affects my story, I think. Oh. It's funny, though, because I remember you had told me your story, like, back in the day. You probably told me, like, I don't know, 2015, 16?

Mm-hmm. and then i remember hearing you and definitely i also was like the same exact way that you thought about aliens was kind of like like sure maybe like over it's over there and like i don't think about it but then you told me that and i was like i know he's not lying and i was like and i know that he, saw what he saw but at the same time it's kind of like you can't you don't know anything right so like you've never seen an alien so it's kind of like how do you really put that

in perspective like i know he's not lying he saw what he saw but i don't know what aliens are so it's kind of like you can't really do anything with it at the end of the day right and then but fast forward to like what was it the u.s congressional hearings about the ufos and i became obsessed with that a congressional thing came out and i like was like hmm maybe there's like something to this and then, i just came became like really obsessed with the idea of ufos like all of a

sudden just like like, consuming media, because I'm, like, also bored at work, and I need something to listen to. So there's, like, lots of UFO media. Anyways... And then I called up Bo, and I was like, tell me your fucking UFO story again. And then he told me his story again. And then I was telling my other friend, I was like, tell me your mom's UFO story again. Because I was like, I just want to know, because, like, I'm hearing about them.

So I was like, I want to, like, re-listen to your story with this, like, new knowledge of, like, maybe they're really fucking here. And then I just thought about it. And I was like, oh, that's crazy. So he told me his story again. The mom told me her story. and the mom's story was basically that she was driving on the freeway i think to work or something i don't remember if it was at night or in the morning but she said it was a it was dark.

But she said she saw a gigantic ufo flying over the fucking costco off of like the 210 freeway somewhere and i was like what and she said that she was staring at it and she's thinking what what the fuck? Like, why is nobody noticing this shit? Yes. I'm like, what the fuck? And then, yeah. And then I was like, damn, that's crazy girl.

There's theories behind why anyone's noticing when they, so when I told you that that woman didn't hear it, um, or see if she didn't acknowledge it and how you just said that your friend's mom, they say that, well, a, it could be that we're crazy and there's something wrong with us and that's whatever.

But they say that there's, it's the silence, but also that sometimes they think that it has something to do with them trying to, directly show themselves to you and i think that's kind of a weird thing because it makes me feel like i'm like they wanted me like but i think i'm the chosen one i only think back to the experience i had and i think why didn't she look up like why didn't she see like she it was a small street guys it was the your viewers can't see but your street out front

that size so it's weird to me that a structure that big yeah i'm over here being like.

You know what i mean like no that's weird you know and even and actually i'm really being honest and i'm sure people that are listening and they've had the experience people don't like to be say that they're crazy for like whatever but i will even accept that if someone came to me and said this is actually what happened is you're crazy and you saw that you saw it but it's because your brain i would accept it actually i wouldn't be like no i saw a ufo you don't know what you're

about i would not say that because i to this day have no idea what i saw the only category i can put it in is ufo so i want to be clear on that too like i'm not saying it could have been a ghost i don't know if ghosts are boxes or whatever it could have been that i don't know i just put it in that box because at the time it made the most sense because it was clearly a structure and it was clearly like silent and in the sky so i was like that's a ufo later it's a different kind of a bird

yeah this is a bird so then you tell i'm hearing these stories from you people.

And i swear i hear something like above my house and it almost sounds like a like a whooshing like a resonating like like almost like a washing not like you know like a washing machine is just kind of like a a continuous sound that keeps going cycling it kind of sounded like a hum like that and then i was like thinking i was like is that my fucking air conditioner looking at my air air conditioner i'm like no it's not my air conditioner sound because i know what it sounds like so i turn off the

air conditioner i'm like i can still hear it i'm like fuck what is that and i'm just like hmm and then it just goes away this little sound anyways i wasn't even thinking about it connecting it to anything so that night i go to sleep and every night i wake up in the middle of the night this is like i've always woken in the middle of the night just to go to the bathroom or get some water and like i also go up to smoke so i can like smoke out so i can like go back to sleep and then so this night

i was living in my dad's house in buena park and so i was getting up like usual and so when i'm walking to the kitchen to get water you have to go through like the foyer you know like the front room to get into the kitchen so i'm walking through and And you can still see, it's kind of like lit up because the security, they have a security system in their house. And it like makes like a little blue light.

And so you can kind of see dimly. And so as I'm walking to the kitchen and I'm walking to the kitchen table, I basically come up on like a four to three, I don't know, four foot being individual. We are like catching each other's eyes and we're just like. Not even like a second and i'm like and then within like that moment of seeing it. I immediately was back in my bed, I guess, and I woke up and I was like, and then I was like, what the fuck?

And I like looked at the bed and like my dog is just sitting there, like rolled up, like sleeping on the bed, not disturbed. And I'm like, what the fuck was that? And I was like, did I just fuck? Was that real? And then I was like, did I just fucking see that in my head? I'm like, was that fucking real? And what did I just fucking see that?

And I was just like, oh, my fucking God. and then but at the same time it was like also calm and it was like it's okay though because you can really literally do nothing about it now and just go back to sleep and that's like what i thought at the same time of being freaked out as fuck but at the same time it's like this like a like a weird feeling like almost like a sedation feeling of like just go back to sleep it's okay hey and whatever i've heard other accounts like that seriously

so after the whole experience i started to be obviously like listen out for stories like that so then i actually became obsessed with hearing stories about ufos and hearing like listener stories podcasts well anyway what i've learned there are a lot of patterns and what you just said is one of those patterns isn't that crazy like one of the things are the people when they experience seeing being something it could be ghosts or aliens bigfoot anything

they say that they feel a sense of calm and then sometimes they fall asleep and it's not like them to fall asleep in a stressful situation like that so that goes for ghosts isn't that weird well i had because why would people add that i don't know i just find that when you listen to a bunch of stuff and you look at like data in that way and you see that there are actual patterns investigate that shit immediately after I definitely delved into all that kind of like personal

account shit. And I'm like, oh, shit. Like a lot of things kind of sound like my experience. And I'm like, that's weird. Not weird, but obvious. You know what I mean? Yes. So then I go back to sleep. La la la. Whatever. This is in.

It's got to be June. I want to say it's June or July. And it's like late June. I want to say it was June. June. Or July. Either way. So the next weird part of the story is I wake up and I'm going to work. And this is like a fucking weird ass day where it is like thunderstorms like crazy. And of course, because this is California in July or June. So you could probably look up the weather and find exactly what date this is. But it was like thunderstorms everywhere and like lightning everywhere.

And I was like, what the fuck? And I was like, this definitely has something to do with the fucking aliens that I just fucking saw. So that was weird. So we're driving to work and I'm construction worker, but I, we're not allowed to actually work in the rain, but for whatever reason, the guy I was working with wanted to keep working. So we're putting this shit up and it like, it's raining and like shit is coming down. So finally we leave whatever.

And so I leave midday. Oh yeah. So then I'm telling my, my fucking coworker, I'm actually telling him the story, what happened to me that night. I was like, I was like, dude, like, I don't know if this is a dream, but I don't think this was a dream.

And i told them what i just like witnessed that night and then he goes off because apparently he's a huge ufo freak and he's like telling me all this stuff and telling me trying to just like you know getting he had an experience is that why he's like that he's seen stuff like he's seen i think like ufos like while outside working like a lot of co-workers that i have have told me that they've seen shit while working outside like people have said that they've seen stuff while working at JPL,

they've seen shit just, like, up above it, just kind of, like, doing its thing. After I tell all this shit to my coworker, I'm driving fucking home, and we're driving a little bit early, because it's raining, so we get off early. So I'm driving on the 605 South, driving to, back to Buena Park, and in Santa Fe Springs area, which, apparently, there's a lot of alleged activity in Santa Fe Springs area, I'm just driving off the freeway, and I see something in the sky.

And it's like in the distance and it's just like a black dot and i just immediately saw it and i was just like that is not something i was like that is something that i don't know what that is, that's not this that's not that that is just a it's just a black dot sitting there and it's not moving and so i'm driving and i'm finally coming up on it and i'm like trying to see what the fuck it is and i'm like that's not mylar balloons it's not this it's not that it's like a circular shape

but it also looks like it's like changing shape at the same time it's like it's like, pulsating i don't know about pulsating but almost like just like moving or also just like changing color and it's almost from like a bronze like a dark bronze metallic dark bronze to like like to black and maybe like.

Some other colors in between other metallic colors in between but it's like not staying the same color and it doesn't look like it's staying the same shape either even though it does just basically look like a circular thing and i've looked up online and i've seen videos of shit that looks kind of like it and i'm like i think that's what i saw too it's like there's just black, orbs that are kind of like flying through the air and so i'm looking at it i'm

just like what the fuck and i'm on the freeway and i'm like no one sees it no one's looking no one's stopping but But I mean, I can't stop either. It's like we're driving. And I already knew. I'm like, I'm not going to take my phone out. This is already too dangerous. Me trying to look at it from where I'm driving. And I am basically sticking my head out the window. And I literally stick my head out the window as I'm driving by it. And I'm like trying to look at it as I'm driving past.

And it's like, it can't be higher than the tallest telephone pole. Like maybe like 500 feet taller, like higher than that. And I'm like, that's pretty low.

And basically, yeah, I saw it off the freeway. i actually called my dad on the phone and i told him about like what i saw and then i told my boyfriend too and i told my sister i feel like i told like immediately told like everybody because also like the people i know are like open to like shit like that like my sister has always been opened she's always told me that she's seen stuff in the sky like lights that are like don't move in the correct way you know what i mean you

know people should look up more look up more because and open your mind more actually because.

What happened while i was processing that i was actually just trying to put things into a box a bunch of times like while i was looking at this thing happen and i think that's probably what happens to a lot of people that probably see something i'm sure you guys have experienced something you don't realize you probably just immediately put it into a box like truly and it's not a bad thing do that like if that do that and that's a normal human thing to do but i think sometimes

the reason that kids have more experiences is because they are very open and kids just see it as it is and i think if people do that more they probably will see a lot more if you instead of just being like you could have been driving and been like drone and they kept going but the fact that you were kind of a little bit more curious because of what happened the night before that you know the whole experience that's what opened you up to see more.

So i feel like if more people just opened up and was like instead of first trying to categorize it just be like just be curious like a child be like what is that yeah yeah so then i called one of my friends and he helped me like through it he was like why are you like so shooken up about it and i was like well like i think it's a consent thing they went in my fucking house i don't know them they just i just came up on it because okay so after that happened that night also i had

rewoken up that night and because i always go out to smoke but i like that's when i had told myself like Like, I think I had gone outside to go smoke and, but I opened the back door and I just like looked up and it was cloudy outside and I was just like, no, I don't want to.

And sometimes when I would go back out there to smoke, sometimes, honestly, I would get like a weird, like, is something watching me feeling like, but even before that, but I was just like, oh, you're paranoid and you're smoking.

So obviously, but like, I didn't always have that feeling of like, I feel like something's out here are like something's watching me kind of vibe, scary it is kind of scary but like in a scary way though yeah in like a scary way in a scary way yeah eerie kind of like something weird yeah.

Being watched being watched is weird in itself yeah i ended up moving out and then later when i had moved out this is like maybe two years ago now maybe one year ago now i don't remember when this happened but i'm walking the dog and this is during the venus jupiter conjunction and so i'm looking up at the sky because i'm a spacey nerd and i like looking at like celestial events so i'm looking at the sky looking at the moon and all of a sudden i see that phoenix light shit i see

a gigantic like lights it's like it's like a it's like a boomerang shape of lights it's like one in the middle two down the side and it's just gigantic lights up ahead they're They're like basically directly overhead and it's so windy and I'm like, what the fuck?

And then it's like, you can, can't really see, you can sort of see like a shape against the blackness of the sky, but it's also almost like invisible, but it's also like, that's how mine was like transparency, but you know, it's there, but it's like, not like the wonder woman, the visible plane. Yeah. you know mine wasn't invisible necessarily but it was like it was so perfectly black sky.

Color like if you were not there like if you were not in that area you would not see it because it actually kind of was kind of camouflaged weirdly right it wasn't that it was necessarily like see-through it just was like so black that you'd think it was just a void in the sky but it's actually very close to you and you're like it throws you off because you know all of a sudden it's above you did yours have lights yes but they were so dim so i also think about

that because i'm like how come i didn't notice the lights like when i see the phoenix lights that whole situation, they always focus on the light specifically but what i saw was really like almost as if like your car lights without the headlights on but they like have like the hazard not like that orange that's the vibe okay and it was like moving as if it were like you know like hazard and like where where are we? Like, we're in Jersey. This place sucks.

They, they're, the lights weren't so bright. Like that wasn't what I fixated on. What I fixated on was actually just this lack of sound and how big it was.

Mine were pretty bright. And then they went from the V shape as it was moving. And then it basically, the, the lights, they moved into a formation, which was like a line, almost kind of like a diagonal line. And I'm just like, but is this a, I'm like thinking, I was like...

What is this is this a ship or like a shape a ship shape or like lights or like what is going on, and they just continued to move and it kind of just like went at the same speed as like an airplane you know what i mean like how it looks slow but you know that they're actually going very fast yeah yeah yeah and it's just like so massive just kind of going out and so that happened and then And I'm like, so I did take actually my phone out. And to me, I thought I was recording a video.

And then when I went back to research the video, it was not there. So I don't know if I just opened my phone and thought I was recording and didn't record it. Or if it just, who knows what. Because I also did have a fucking, the other thing that happened to me was when I saw this shit off the freeway. I was immediately texting everybody that I fucking saw that shit. And my texts were not going through. And I was doing voice memos too.

Trying to send them and they just weren't going through to anybody. buddy i'm like is this a coincidence bitch or is this it was blocking your technology you're blocking my was it also silent for for you i don't know if the craft was silent i don't remember i remember it being windy but then i also remember there was a man outside and he was walking into his into his place and he was looking at me like what are you looking at like i guess i'm like struggling with the dog and the camera like

trying to point out the sky and he's like and it is also so windy and he's like looking at me like what the fuck are you doing and i'm like bitch look at the i wanted to be like bitch look at the fucking sky you idiot yes but i didn't because i'm like i don't know you well you ever notice those those videos where everyone's like taking videos and you see like ufos going above and they're like what is that like usually tiktok videos or instagram oh

yeah it is usually somebody like literally being like oh would you just freaking look just look like somebody's trying to be like somebody else look because i'm not just is gonna be the only one witnessing this i mean that's how it feels yeah it's like fucking open but that's the thing is like people don't be aware of their surroundings they don't look around at shit don't even notice anything i don't know it's freaky though because i don't know it's so.

Like large that even if you weren't paying attention and it was a structure that man made you should be able to hear it or the fact that you're seeing someone else experience something where you're like what is that person noticing wouldn't you instantly be like let me let me see what that person's looking at. No, that's a little weird. What do you think? But this is America. That's true. But what you were saying earlier about how you felt scared when you saw it and you wanted to turn away.

I also had that feeling. Like the first moment I saw it, I was like awestruck and I was just like, blah, blah, god snacked but then immediately i was like do i need to get inside is it gonna see me what if it sees me what do i what am i gonna do now like what if it tracks me what if it wants to follow me what if it sees me seeing it and now i'm cooked and then it's just like all these like really gross just like stomach churning thoughts came into my head yes and i was just like.

And it just felt so kind of like just like immensely gross telling you it's like seeing a wild animal because i'm sure if you would have that reaction if a grizzly bear was beat away, you would probably be like throwing up afterwards being like i'm so happy i didn't just die i'm shitting my pants though.

One night me and my fiance i was asleep it's already midnight and i hear some shit like above the apartment and it just sounds like a jumbo jet but it sounds like a it's like circling the block and it's like you know how a jumbo jet goes you hear it and it goes away or like you all know what a helicopter sounds like we all grew up in the fucking ghetto right so that's not something to be worried about but it sounded like a jumbo jet but it sounded like it was just circling the block

up and down and it was just like so loud and screechy and it was also windy and it was also like a cloudy fucking night and like wet and rainy and it just sounded like it was like going up the street and then going back down and then coming up the street and it was like maybe for like a half hour but my fiance at this point in time you know i feel like anytime i told him about ufos he's like really like they don't they're not it's not real

bitch kind of thing and then when he heard this he came into the room and he was like do you hear that and i was like yeah and he was like it's a ufo and i was like oh you know what it is and he immediately thought that and And he didn't believe in UFOs. And I'm just like, that's what it probably is. Because that's what it fucking sounds like. Something you don't know what the fuck it is. Right. But y'all didn't go out and look? No. It went away, the sound, finally. Oh. But it was just creepy.

And then at one point in the neighborhood, I heard a resonant sound at some point coming from no direction. Just walking through the neighborhood. I'm like, where is this loud sound? It's just like a sound. Like a...

Yeah like sometimes you hear it at the beach when i play volleyball like but nobody looks up and be like what is that fucking noise like it sounds like something that's going through the sky but nobody really looks up to see if something's there yeah because sometimes i do hear that a lot i feel like i'm constantly will hear like an airplane and but i'm not seeing one but it don't sound like an airplane it sounds like something bigger than an airplane but it's

like an airplane sound yeah but it's just like what the fuck like don't nobody hear anybody curious about what the the fuck is going on up there right this is like everybody just continue to play or play with their dog and shit like you know it is crazy though because when i was working i was working by the airport once and it was a cloudy day and i'm looking at the airplanes and so the area we're working at is pretty close to where they're landing and taking off and so they can't be.

That fucking high from where i am and where the clouds are and it's like regular clouds and the the plane will immediately disappear and it's close and it's like if that whole jumbo jet can disappear in a cloud what else can disappear in there and that's close and i'm like fuck should be hiding in them clouds i mean them clouds are thick because we think about when you're on a plane that's when you get most of the turbulence so it's just like them clouds be thicker than the motherfucker

and then one time i was driving and i seen like we were at the intersection and we just stopped and then i just seen like a bunch of like white dots kind.

Of just like blend going in and out like you had multiple yeah yeah why are we not interviewing you because this is we've already talked about this on like the halloween episode the first halloween episode we talked about this and then we had a second a first galen episode where we talked about it and so now we're coming full circle because i don't think i actually told you the whole story that i've had but i feel like a dr mikey knew yeah i knew okay but these newer ones i yeah i

feel like the newer ones are like less because i feel like after i saw what i saw the being like everything else is so less sensational compared to that i feel like who cares may i ask you a question you may do you also feel like when you tell people that you had multiple accounts that you feel like less credibility kind of that's how i yeah like i feel like the longer the story gets like the more they think you're making it up maybe yeah i'm like and And then this happened.

And then, like, then the ray gun came out. And then I saw, like, no, like. But, like, I don't care. I know I actually have been on a podcast to talk about it, too. The UFO Chronicles podcast with Nick Hunter. And I explained my story to him.

And that was cool but do y'all think that they chose like you have to think about like why me you know i mean like and i know you guys don't want to think about that because it gave you a particular feeling at that moment but like do you ever think about like damn like maybe you know like it's so much to be unknown but like do you feel like damn i don't want to say it like that like damn they chose me you know man because you don't know what they chose you for yeah but.

At least but it's a because you know that they they have well i don't we don't know them to have i don't know them y'all but they made you they want to make the you guys aware of them for some reason i felt personally when i saw it it felt like such a deer in the headlights moment that we were both like oh shit that it didn't feel like i was a chosen one it almost just kind felt like they were like doing shit up in my house damn i'm

in so much trouble right now and then it was kind of just like oh shit this person just came out like you know what i mean like oh i wasn't planning on them to be awake i was planning to to discover what i was discovering while they were asleep i guess maybe that's kind of how i felt about it and like i hear stories about abductions and those people feel like the one because obviously they took them somewhere else but like I don't feel like a one I feel like I saw something crazy and

but I also at the same time I'm like if this actually happened if this was not a dream right and I let's say I actually walked in on an alien species or whatever it is like. And let's pretend, because then we also have to, like, put, like, so much else on it. Like, we also have to be like, oh, they're higher intelligence. Are they, though? Like, do they actually know that I wake up every single night? And did they, was that part of the plan?

Right. Or were they just, like, accidentally exploring my house and it was like, oh, shit.

Like and also like the things in the sky was it like am i chosen to see it or am i the kind of person who's just so constantly hyper aware of my surroundings and like everything that like i notice kind of shit that people don't notice anyways like i kind of i'm a person who notices like flowers and birds you know what i mean so they know you're intuitive so they already know so it's kind of like i'm already always looking for stuff so maybe i just caught it right i don't know i'm on

a like i'm trying to podcast about it right now telling more people but you also had multiple experiences right experiences and interactions yeah because i also have seen what they call a shadow person twice but i didn't relate that in the same way and i didn't feel the same way like i didn't have that same feeling of calming after i saw that i felt immediately woken up and scared the fuck out and i was like immediately like like i saw an actual

animal like Like I saw a bear and my body reacted violently. You know what I mean? So I woke up and I turned the lights on and whatever, it was gone. This has happened twice back in my old house in Norwalk. And then, but yeah, I didn't feel that same kind of like, go back to sleep. I felt like I needed to do a fucking prayer, which I did. But I didn't feel like that when I saw this like, quote unquote, alien that I saw.

Oh, okay. So the experiences were different. and I've also had a a what do you call those a night terror or whatever paralysis I've had that too I've had that and it wasn't the same like so when I had I had this sleep paralysis maybe a year ago and the feeling was I was in my bed and I was like taking a nap and then all of a sudden like I feel like there is a a murderer in the hallway for whatever reason in my head I'm like there's a murderer in there in the hallway and they're coming and

they're coming closer and they have a knife but i don't even see anything but i'm just having this intense feeling but i'm also can't move and i'm like there's a murderer there and then as soon as the feeling like went away and dissipated in my mind i already knew it was a like a sleep paralysis and i didn't think like oh that was real like was that real like i didn't have like like questioning reality like i knew like oh that was sleep paralysis that i just experienced but with the.

The being that i saw that night i never had that feeling of that was just sleep paralysis i definitely felt like shit that was fucking real but i do kind of gaslight myself all the time just like thinking like no that was not real like i'll tell myself a lot like it didn't happen i do that i actually do that a lot and i weirdly also have many not many stories because i have other stories but actually i'm very hesitant to

tell them usually and i'm not probably going to share them because i find them to be so unexplainable and i don't even like going down the rabbit hole talking about it because i look crazy and i'm not letting them do that to me.

Control them there yes exactly i was like oh no back to your question i do find sometimes like why am i seeing this i really don't want to see certain things and i'm actually somebody that now Now, like if I feel some type of way, like now I have two dogs and I feel a lot safer sleeping at night with my lights on or off.

But I used to, if my husband wasn't there or if I lived alone, not only did I leave sometimes my lights on, but I would also leave all of my blinds open so people could see me, which my husband was like, why do you do that? That's more dangerous. But I was like, I'm scared of the unknown and I don't want to be alone with anything that I don't understand.

Wait, what did you say? You do what with the blinds? keep them wide wide open like in hollywood when i remember i used to live in hollywood on freaking basically hollywood boulevard i used to sleep with the windows and i lived on the first floor you guys oh not the garden view yeah and i would leave the windows completely open because of my like fear of having to see something alone and like i feel safer around humans than what that and that's actually because of the ufo thing

like i feel safer around the idea that i can predict what a human's gonna do even though it's like you can't predict they're gonna try to murder you and you can have the chance to try to fight for your life you can figure out your worst case scenario pretty much yeah that other stuff i don't know what's gonna happen i don't know i'm gonna see something and i make it sound like i've seen so many experiences but truly it's just i've had maybe five things that's happened that i

cannot explain and i don't want i every time i was like why did i why did that have to happen like i was having such a normal night or i was having such a a normal day with my friends why like that was such a tamper in my day actually i don't look at it as a highlight yeah because when i had seen that like phoenix light thing like my boyfriend or my fiance was like still not open to it yet and so when i had told him i came back

and told him he was just kind of like what like he didn't say anything and i was just like god damn it i was like that's so isolating right now i'm like now i don't even want to tell anybody ever but But then finally. I'm like, now he understands. And he's on the UFO train. I was lucky enough to get married to someone that has a lot of paranormal experiences. And the funny thing is, he's very like...

Have you ever met him he is very like black and white he is very he's like a corporate guy actually like he works in a corporate environment so his his mind is very like this is what it is he's not something that like would tell you paranormal stories now if you said to him you had to be specific like have you ever seen hat man he would say yes and he'd be like wait what.

Because he's not he's gonna go out and broadcast it but he he has had so many paranormal experiences that i feel safe to be able to talk to him about it because he's not trying to broadcast it or like be like he's just a lot more like he takes it as real as it as it is and it makes me feel less crazy actually so shout out to my hubby because he makes me feel less crazy but he because of his experiences that he's had and the way he i already know how his

mind is and the way he talks to me and reacts to it it's makes me realize like oh yeah this shit is real and that's very scary.

Because his experiences are like classic exactly like yeah ufo he saw a hat man in new or well new orleans first of all new orleans is very spooky and that's just the truth yeah that's where i saw a ghost did you what i want to hear about that though oh we can finish your story go go that's right i want to hear about that but yes because i've had another paranormal experience in new orleans and i just find that some places i guess are truly hot spots like movies i think they weirdly do

nail certain things and i think it's because someone in their circle of writing probably experienced something so they're able to add in real detail because i've noticed that so he's had multiple experiences in new orleans but i also was able to share one day having experience with him in new orleans with my dog and i find that dogs are like the that's like something is going on if you see that your dog or cat reacts to something you shouldn't even in question like oh it was just the

wind you should be like whoa yeah they have such strong instincts that they can smell scent like all of that they're using their third eye and their butthole like all kinds of stuff that we don't have that if they feel hyper aware of something you should also be like kind of taken like earthquakes they're like known to spot or not spot earthquakes know what earthquakes are happening dogs and it's like a like you should just kind of lean into that because they're

sensing something that is there period they're They're not being like, dogs aren't crazy. Well, some dogs are crazy, but they're not like seeing aliens and then going on a podcast and talking about it. You know what I mean? So you have to take, if you have a pet and you experience something or something's happening around you and they're being freaked out, you should also be hyper aware. Just my advice, because that has happened in New Orleans. My dog was really scared.

So we got an Airbnb and I already kind of felt like it was spooky. Like I was in that headspace and I don't even like bringing myself there because I think I'm manifested or maybe I'm wishing this to happen. So I kind of dropped it. I was like, I'm not going to think this place is haunted because I'm not doing that. I'm having fun in New Orleans. We're here to like eat. Later that night, my dog, so I had a really horrible dream.

So it's not scary in the sense of I saw something, but I know that dog saw something like i know it because he's never reacted like that since then before then never i was sleeping and i had a dream that someone kept on trying to come into our room and when she finally opened up the door she was all like dilapidated and crazy looking and when i woke up he was not only in my face like panting and crazy like trying to get my attention he kept on looking at the door like kept like he woke me

up to like show me like something something like Like he was trying to get my attention to look out the door. And that was a real thing. Cause then afterwards I had to walk, walk home and like, so I was awake. So I'm trying to say it wasn't a dream where I was like, let me go back to bed. Did that really? No, he made me get up and walk him after that situation. But seeing his distress, I was like, something is out there.

I remember feeling like the feeling of like, like uneasy, like shaky and being like, something's out there. New Orleans guys, creepy, creepy place. Love it. Yeah.

I mean, no, I don't love it. I don't want to experience it. but i do love the city itself i would love a show where celebrities i think they already have this but like real big celebrities talk about like experiences they've had i'm not even celebrity except obsessed i should say but i would love to hear their i think there's one called celebrity ghost stories yeah i meant sorry a list celebrities let's be sure you want to hear susan sarandon's rendition right i don't hit no c last

shit but um speaking of new orleans i had like a ghost experience there so i would me and my friend we were driving cross country and that was like one of our stops and we spent two days there one day we decided to do like this little tour it was like a little ghost tour so first it took you to this bar on bourbon street like on the other side of the gay bars and it's supposed to be like this haunted bar it's like cobblestone

i think it's like the oldest bar in bourbon i forgot what it's called i think that's it it's like a hallway through the alley or something something like that yeah so like there's a ghost that lives there so they have you start there you take pictures and they tell you about the history and all that stuff and then there from there they take you to.

Cemetery you walk around the cemetery and it's like when you get there it's like, evening like dusk and you stay there for like an hour until it gets dark and they tell you the history and have you walk around take pictures and all that and then after that they take you to a haunted house so they split you up into two groups because not everyone could go into the like explore so they have everyone in like a little waiting room in the house like a little foray

i guess whatever you call it and then they split you up and half the group goes and explores as well the other weights and they switch and they give you like these little ghost detector, instruments so you have like a evp you have the little rods that cross each other and all that what does that shit do that's like you ask a question and if it crosses that's confirmation and if they don't cross and it's not confirmation yeah that's how

it's supposed to work i thought that was like finding water yeah we need better ghost technology right i know behind these sticks yeah oh and they have like during orientation they're telling you about like the ghost that's supposed that's supposed to live there and they say that there's one that tends to kind of. Show or appear to like younger men for whatever reason no really yeah so anyway i'm waiting i I wait for the first round and then I go the second round.

I think I had the raws, not just like going around like nothing. But the minute I stepped out of like the waiting room, that's when I felt like that feeling of being watched. And it's a whole way through like the house. You can only go to like a few rooms. So I make sure I stay in the room with everyone because like, I don't want to be by myself. But anyway, so I'm just hearing that people are taking pictures and whatever.

And then they call us back. And I was like, okay. and then somehow I get stuck in the back of the line or at least I thought I was in the back of the line or whatever so we're going and I see people line up and then I'm just waiting for us to kind of let for letting them to let us in and then I feel like someone behind me.

And I'm just like wait no like I know I was the last person behind I turn around round, and I see this figure, and it was a figure, and they're probably maybe up to, like, my shoulder, maybe up to my ear or something like. And you know how in Hocus Pocus, when they drink the potion and they are like all spirity, that's what that looked like. It was a white t-shirt. I see kind of like the side of his hair and his face.

And I just look back and I was just like, and then like, it's just like your stomach drops to you or your stomach just, it just drops to your stomach. And you're just like, and I just turn around and I look back again and it's gone. So it looked like a like a human spirit yeah like a human spirit like yeah you can see a man's face yeah i didn't the face is not it i don't know if i saw a face but i definitely saw like a shirt.

Like i saw the clothes because that's where my attention was first because it was so bright because everything was like so like lit up and glowy that was the most glowy part so that's where my vision went first and then i remember by the time i wanted to look up at the face i'm just was like and i like just looked the other way because i didn't even want to see anything else i'd be the same way did you like did you like believe in god like did you change your

views on anything i don't think it changed my views because i well for me i feel like oh maybe it did because i feel like ghosts are less about like trapped spirits but more like more like like interdimensional timelines colliding because i think everything is happening at once like past and present and future is all happening at once you just happen to be tuned into this time period right so i think like timelines crash and that's

why people see ghosts and they're very like time period based you know that makes sense kind of like watching like a holographic movie of someone's.

Something that happened yeah yeah because you know how they have ghosts and you have the ones who are like are in the routine the repetitive residual yeah residual hauntings or them just like living their life and that feels like very timelines colliding together you just happen to like peer into it right yeah i agree yeah i just feel like it's like what if it's like stained energy.

And it's just like what if they're not even there it's just like so much energy just like rubbed off on i don't know i could see that like it's just like the holograph of your spirit i don't know there's a famous um video in bangkok or some airport where there's a bunch of like ghost passengers coming off of a plane that wasn't there and it wasn't that there's like oh a mysterious like plane disappeared and those are the people they were

like what it's like an airport it was like an airport that just had the dock out but all you could see are people coming up that what's that tunnel thing that connects the airport to the tarmac yeah you could just see people coming like rushing out from far away and then you see that there's no one spilling out into the lobby you should look it up it's pretty interesting wow to me i try to give those type things a grain of salt when they're

videos like that because i'm like sometimes in nowadays like with ai you're like yeah isn't like that but i also do like is it really like something so average and like that that we just don't even understand. Like it is just a residual thing that's happened because that's happened so many times. People have gotten off planes there so many times that literally somehow that.

Our timeline just has it printed there or something i don't know it's weird because i feel like now i'm seeing lots of more like random like you know because everyone has a security camera or a ring camera now you see lots of weird videos like shit caught on camera but it's at the same time it's like how much you can't really believe anything obviously that you see in a video yeah.

There's like you cannot literally believe anything but there's some that just like hit and you're like is this real yeah i'm like well i the sad thing is is there i believe that is true but i also believe some people are just so bored that they do make up things that are so elaborate that you're like why did you put yourself through that there was recently a bigfoot sighting and i don't want to sound crazy but i do believe in bigfoot you guys i'm sorry if i just do because i just

think we can get into that on another day but there was a bigfoot sighting and i'm using air air quotes because it was very convincing that even my mom who does not believe in shit like this guys like she's believed it she was like did you see because this is after i told her about the ufo thing because i actually didn't tell my mom about the ufo thing until they started talking about the news by the way like i didn't tell my dad or my mom until

just recently when they started talking about what she said yeah she believed me and i regret not telling her right away so mom if you listen sorry but i definitely was shocked that she was such a like open-minded person because Because then after that, she has shown me things. She's like, look at what they said on the news on this. And she's been more communicative. Believe me. So that she's open to that. Well, anyway. And she's never had. I've asked her. She's never had an experience.

My grandma has actually had a paranormal experience that I'm going to talk about at her funeral. Spoiler alert. If any of my family's listening. Wait. Spoiler alert for grandma's funeral. She's not dead yet. She's not dead. And she's very healthy. But she had a paranormal experience that I'm going to talk about actually at her funeral. And I told her about it. that I'm going to talk about it. Talk about it.

That was going to be one of my questions to you three is that in regards of like, your family lineage like your ancestors there's no idea of like what our ancestors was able to do back then and if they were able to you know connect with the unknown but do you feel like you know since you just stated that your grandmother also had an opportunity to have an experience that maybe that is just in the bloodline of you guys to have

the ability and And the open-mindedness to allow yourself to see it and understand it, even though I know that it makes you guys eerie and kind of afraid. But do you feel like it may be like a lineage thing or like a bloodline thing? They're tracking your family. I'm kind of picking up where you're going now. Through your whole lineage, your whole decades. The thing is, I think out of my family, really me and my grandmom have only

really ever talked about paranormal. And actually, weirdly enough, my grandma has never shared this with anyone else in her family. She shared it with me because of the UFO thing. Like I talked to her about it and she was like, well, I had to do something and it blew my socks off. See, right. And I was like, you never talk about stuff like this. Like this is crazy. I definitely have to bring this up later on because it defines her actually, this experience. Yeah.

The lineage thing it makes me think because she said that after that experience that she had it opened up her mind in ways that she wasn't expecting and that's what happened to me so maybe it was like that our minds really are i'm just like her and my mind was already open to accept that some uh something obscure that we don't see right yeah so i don't know if it's necessarily that it's in me like oh i'm like a witch i wish i wish but i do feel like maybe it's because of her attitude and maybe

from that experience when she saw what she or she heard what she heard and maybe it made me who i am because it opened her up her mind nice so that's just saying i mean.

My grandma has told me about some of her ghost experiences like she told me about growing up in mexico and one of her tias had like a haunted house and she remember spending the night and in the middle of the night it sounded like someone was just like just demolishing the kitchen like breaking glass opening shutting the cupboards and everything and when they ran down like nothing was there yeah oh my god my i feel like my one of my uncles have an experience like that too yeah that's

a very that's another pattern i've picked up on once listening to paranormal podcast is that audio paranormal things happen so often but like i said people put things into a box so typically people will just be like whatever you didn't what is it can't no no see no foul or whatever like they didn't see it so they're not gonna be like investigate any further yeah that's true because it was just a sound like you're like whatever but meanwhile you're like whoa wait if i really

think about it what was that down yeah audible paranormal they call it actually something but yeah that's very common i feel like there's like some sort of linkage like i like to to think that I'm like a bruja, you know? Cause like, I remember growing up.

Like my grandma saying stuff about like people were witches like so like i think we're very aware of it and i think we probably have some sort of linkage to it but she like doesn't want that that connection you know yeah i respect that yes it could be scary yeah no definitely yeah i'm like i'm right there with her yeah i if i did find out i was sabrina tomorrow i think i would still be very like hesitant and be like well wait this is so unexpected and i

was literally just trying to like go to the beach tomorrow yeah right you know like i don't want to right i want to start making up fucking yeah what's those spells and coaches and motions and all that yeah it looks cool i really actually respect witches and wicked and all that like to me i find that very fascinating because i also believe that but it also scares me not in a way that i would be scared of the person that's a witch but it's more like i'd be scared if i felt that i

didn't deal with all that yeah yeah or i think that way is too when people say that they are psychics and like talk to the dead i always i'm like i don't want that i don't want ever that yeah some if that's a thing where you're and i do believe that too people that can talk to the dead and do all that i'm like i wouldn't want that at all that sounds such like an inconvenience like you're minding your business and you

have someone just random intrusion right be like i'm a ghost and i want you to tell my. Story you're like i'm doom scrolling i don't need this i would hate that i would hate it driving back from it i was on a road trip and we're listening nothing but alien broad podcast because it was desert so it was perfect but i remember hearing something about like alien sightings like either started or significantly significantly picked up after the bomb was dropped or tested.

They stick around atomic areas or whatever, like nuclear testing places. Yeah. They've been seen, a lot of accounts for military, it's usually military that's evolved with atomic fields. This is what a parent, like when you listen, because I'm telling you, I do listen to a lot of podcasts now about paranormal stuff and you pick on patterns pretty quick.

And when i hear military personnel being interviewed usually when they say what type of military like because military could be you could be a cafe worker scooping up mashed potatoes and giving it to a navy person and you are considered part of the navy like it's really that there's that many branches but when they talk about what branches they're on it's usually nuclear which.

I find very fascinating so you know like even the people that show and the same thing goes with water like a lot of navy people see UFOs that's really weird well it goes back to that ocean theory right that aliens are under or i heard it's atlantis atlanteans and their advanced technology coming out of the ocean i would love to be an atlantean i love the ocean when i think about like interdimensional beings i'm like if they could be like a thing right interdimensional beings that kind

of like answers like every other paranormal question you will like probably ever have it feels like because then you can like explain everything well it was just an interdimensional being and oh that bigfoot that was also just a random interdimensional being and that gnome that duende that's also a interdimensional being it's kind of like right yeah like they could all just be interdimensional beings at this point so like

alien is just like another one yeah maybe i because i i don't put ghosts and aliens together i think they're very different beings you know that's why i'm like thinking like i feel like ghosts and interdimensional being could be the same thing but also like people say that aliens are like could be interdimensional so maybe it can.

I don't know i don't know i think it's kind of the same thing you're saying interdimensional like it's everything and nothing that we think it is at the same time kind of yeah like it is what we think but then it's also not or something like that you know like i picture the ufo thing like we're kind of close but it's like we're way off so the fact that we as humans think like we know everything and we're like, oh, that UFO was like, girl, I want you to see me.

Like, no, we could be so, so wildly off because we are not as smart as we think. And we've probably been seeing this shit for a long time and just never really pieced it together. Yeah. And actually one person, a podcast I listened to, and it stuck with me because I'm like, he's so right. Right.

It's kind of controversial but it's he is so right he was like you know realistically back then they were so focused on religion that religion could have been wrapped up in the idea of that you are seeing something ufo or alien and that's how they kind of came up with religion really because they were like what is that you know yeah because it's i mean obviously ancient um aliens that show talks about a lot of that like how this was the beginning of civilization

but there are so many things that's like well why is it that this civilization on this side of the world and this civilization on this side of the world both have the same exact kind of thoughts pyramid seeing things in the sky gods goddesses like all kinds of things that are kind of the same you start to think and put the puzzle pieces together especially after you saw what i saw you start to think like whoa like maybe they saw that like what makes me think they just got here

and for me to see yeah like they're like we just got we love paris hill and so we just got here we want to see her no it could have been like they've been here for so long but people because i the way i described it if you think back i said it was a giant costco floating if a hundred years from now someone listens to this podcast is costco around they would be like what is he describing yeah it looked like a grocery store how weird they had like what's food,

right aliens oh fuck i was gonna say something.

Wait have you not had an experience before i don't think so what do you but i did curious i mean but i i know that i have seen things but like it's you know just like figures and, shadows and I'm very open-minded in receiving those things and I feel like, and even like my ancestors come to me in my dreams and some of my departed family members. So like I feel like I have. Can you describe in detail your most memorable shadow moment? Oh, they have, shit, let's see. Pick one.

Pick your most, the most recent. I mean, it's usually, but so I feel like. Every fucking night. You know what I'm saying? Like I, because the way that my sleeping area is set up is that like I have a mirror and I face the mirror and I sometimes when I sleep, like I feel something like I have a body pillow behind me, but I also feel like I feel something behind me.

And so then like I can easily open up my eye and see the mirror and I can see a shadow behind me, but like, and I turn around and there's nothing there.

So it's just like you know like i just peek because i'm when i'm asleep i'm trying to enjoy my fucking rest so if i gotta wake up like i'm only waking up one eye like i'm not like about to, disturb my rest let's say you're sleeping and you wake up and you like open you see a shadow and it looks like a human figure right like a human figure like a just a body and it's like is it shadow like cast on the wall or is it a kind of a it's almost like a it's almost like a silhouette and but

by me looking it through the mirror versus like face to face it looks more like a like a shadow you're seeing a shadow person right to break it to you well no like it seemed like they're just they're watching over me yep in a bad way or a good way no just like because I didn't but that's how we said earlier you know when somebody is watching you you can feel it yeah you feel it you feel it and I'm going to use this as an example so like.

Off topic real quick like at my office building i can look at people and they not know that i'm watching them yeah but yeah i can see but you you can tell by by a couple of seconds that they feel like somebody's watching because they're like what like you know i'm saying so like it's almost like that same type of feeling that like i know that somebody's watching over me not watching over me but watching me but it doesn't give me i haven't had any instances where i was in a

felt uncomfortable or afraid so i do knock on wood for that did you see it last night no did you see it this week yeah it was probably like tuesday well i also hear like mirrors or like portals as well right aren't they like i know when you get a new mirror you're supposed to like cleanse them with sage.

And then you know what i'm not fucking sage last night or something you should sage well i mean i oh i do sage and i and i recharge my crystals on the full moon so but like their energy you just never know but then you were saying something the other day like this was felt like this was also tuesday so i don't know why i heard this but like i was sleeping in my room and i just kept hearing something every couple of seconds like a something of like a almost like a nobody's home it's just me,

and the animals my roommate is gone and i was like what the fuck is they doing because they like to fucking tussle and shit so i was like but it happens like every two seconds it was just like and you're like what does that sound like i get up and i look that's like how i felt too then right and i was like wait what the fuck is that and so i'm looking and i was like okay nothing lay right right back down and it fucking happened again.

I said, okay, so I got the fuck up and was saying like, what is y'all in here doing talking to the cat and the dog? Them motherfuckers knocked the fuck out. I'm like, now hold on because I hear this shit literally and I'm looking in my room. I'm like, there's nothing in here that can make that fucking noise. And I'm like, what the fuck? So yeah, it's crazy. But I feel like. I knew it was something, but I didn't know what it was. But I didn't feel afraid

in that sense. Because you're like, it's just a crinkling sound. Right. But there's nothing in my room to make a crinkly noise like that. So I'm like, okay. That's interesting. So I was like, maybe, you know, motherfuckers be passing through. I did have an instance where, like, I had a dream and my grandmother came into my dream. And my cousin's late daughter came in my dream. And it was crazy. You know, that happened. But they said like she came to me.

She's like, oh, tell my mom I said hi, this, that and the other. So I immediately woke up and called my cousin when I woke up to go to work. I didn't wake up out of my sleep. And she was like, damn, damn, Christoph.

That's crazy. I literally was just talking to a co-worker the other day that stated that look I they asked if you know if she ever see her daughter in her dreams she was like no like I really don't see nobody come to my dreams and it was random that it happened that day before and then they came into my dream the next night wow that's cool so I feel like I'm just a portal my body is a portal.

That's interesting actually what you said again i keep i feel bad that i keep reiterating patterns and all this like i sound like i'm some paranormal scientist but because i am interested in it and i love the stories like i was saying earlier you also just described a pattern that i've heard with shadow people because apparently they are like also nicknamed as observers and people aren't typically afraid of them which i find crazy because if i saw that i think i would be afraid but so many

accounts they always are just like they're just watching me and they're okay like the person that it's happening to they're okay with it so i'm like what the hell is that all about because ghost it doesn't sound like ghost actually shadow people to me from what i hear because i've never seen one when i hear people's stories about it share two different stories but there are similarities that don't line up with ghost so i think

something's different with shadow people actually weirdly same because the ones that i had i both felt like yeah they were watching me because ghosts like weirdly whenever i hear stories about ghosts it's like audible and usually like it's like the ghost was kind of like shock that you even saw like it's like more like a passing but shadow people whenever i hear people talk about shadow people it sounds like they linger and they stick around and they're like

you can see me whatever which ghosts always like it sounds like ghosts are like no don't look at me i'm like don't have any makeup on or whatever right Don't pull out the camera. Yeah. But shadow people, from what it sounds like, they just literally will, like you'll look at them and then just stand there. And you're like, what? And then sometimes you're like, because I look and I'm like, I can still see it. And I'm like, what the fuck? And then there's a movie that...

That this this is just somebody that accounted on a podcast called paranormal almanac they said that there's a movie out there that it's pretty spot on if you've seen a shadow person that you could see the movie and be like that's a shadow person i gotta look up the name and i'll send a movie where basically the person is invisible but like every time the person like this girl is like walking around the house but she would look on a corner and she'd see like

a shadow of a person like an outline and as she looks more because at first she's like oh that's just my eyes playing a trick on me but as she looks more she realizes it's a figure of a man and people that watched it say that that's kind of what it is like to experience a shadow man it's like you'll be looking being like i'm not seeing a shadow of a man or i'm not seeing a shadow of a person that's just my eyes playing a trick right but as you look more and more and more you realize you're

seeing the shadow of someone and it becomes right that's exactly how it is because that's how it felt when i fucking saw the shit in my because basically when i saw mine because it's not like it sounds like it doesn't just pop up in the room like if we're here all of a sudden you just see a shadow it's like yeah you're like kind of like wait is that wait and you're focusing like you have to focus on and then it's it is there

and it's undeniably there that's what happened i was in my bed and i was just like looking up and i see i'm looking at the closet and all of a sudden i'm like what am i looking at and i'm like is that like a shadow a shadow of a person and i'm like it's like a shadow person. And then it's like yeah the more you focus like you are making out what the fuck you're looking at and it's like what the fuck and then it's like once you get that full fright then it's gone.

So mikey did you when you saw the shirt were you like did it take you a while to be like that's a ghost it did it was kind of like what's happening did you hear that did you hear it i heard that, did you did y'all hit it i did i thought it was someone's phone oh no it was like right anybody on their phone no oh my god don't tell me did you were you like when you saw the split second although you turned around were you like that's a ghost no no i think it was

this whole thing of like no i was thinking it's still processing i was like no that wasn't that wasn't it no yeah i think it was later i was like that was definitely a ghost that was the one they were talking about yeah but like i i saw a shadow person too and i saw them i was in college and my bed was like there was a door and then a dresser and in my bunk bed. And I heard the door, like someone coming in because the door opened, but the door never swung open.

I just saw a black figure peek out from the other side of my dresser because I was right next to the door. And then we just stared at each other. And then we're just, and I was just like, I did the same thing when I saw the ghost. I was just like, nah, I'm good. And I just like went, laid back down. And then I looked up again and it was gone.

It's like oh he's not ready and the figure it looked like static like black static it was heard that before yeah you know how when it you know how when you when you're a kid in the tv and they're like at 12 you know it was like that but dark bitch i've heard that before and that it like that's filled in the outline of it thank you for saying people said that it's like fuzzy yeah oh my god these patterns are freaking me out oh my god i'm getting shivers

now that you're fucking like oh my god did we hear a voice you have to just listen back right but you could oh good thing i'm not editing this one so so this this house also has experiences so my husband hears his name being called very often yeah or i feel like someone is in the bathroom like the this far bathroom here the red one like i feel there's a lot of energy there and like when lights are off i feel like there's just someone looking appearing from

there like to like my room but i remember one time we were doing we were doing something we were doing like a meditation and it was me my friend and we have like a guy that was doing the meditation.

And all the lights were off and we're kind of just like vibing and chilling and like just in the meditation being guided and then in down the hall on this side of the house you start just hearing the the floor creak like someone's taking steps so it was but it's not like you don't hear like footprints you just hear like just like someone's leaning you know someone's leaning you just hear a weight shift you just hear that like every now and then and then

like we're were like oh we all stopped and like do you hear that and then the person who was guiding the meditation it also has like connection and they have like spirit guides and they started kind of like connecting with them and they started talking in tongue and they like cleanse the house it was like super intense i feel like we have do you have sage i do have sage it's in the house but we always have to cleanse this house this house gives a lot of energy it sure does that is

the truth about this house is so much fucking energy and so many people with a lot of energy come through it all the time good this house is good that's like isn't that a good thing like you just gotta constantly clean it. See but i also wanted when you said spiritual guys i always this might sound great like i pray to my spirit guys as well so that's probably why they show up to me as shadow people you know i'm saying because it's like you told me

to watch over you i was like well you know what you right Right. You right. I'll meet you there next time. But I meant like in, you know, dire need. Not when I'm asleep. Like, you know what? Could you be like a really hot guy watching over me from the distance? Right. Right? A hot guardian angel. Can you be hot, please? Can you really see your form? If you can form yourself into a metaphysical being, like, do it hotly.

I would if I were a ghost. You have the choice, right? Right. It actually doesn't sound like they do. If they're trying to show up fuzzy. Right? That's almost why I'm, like, thinking I'm more like interdimensional being. So it's kind of like, when I think of shadow person, like, what if there's a different plane and it's almost like a TV. That's how we almost think of it like they're watching us and we can't see them behind like.

You know the two-way mirror and it's like are they just always here and then they just choose to like show us when they're like feeling cheeky and want to scare you or they're just waiting for you to fix your antennas because that's the other thing that people always say is like oh whenever you and people always say this about every kind of paranormal thing if you talk about ghosts they're gonna come around if you talk about the devil he's gonna come

around if you talk about aliens they're gonna come around talk about this or that it's gonna come around so i'm like maybe they know that we're talking about them now they're like oh well you want to talk about me here i am well i think it's just back to what i said earlier like you just opened your mind so you're already talking about it so your mind's already open so i think it's just like really probably a lot more people would have paranormal experiences

if they really truly open their mind and not in a way that's like i want to be silly and pretend that there's a ghost around here like just be like well wait what was that noise and like really actually be like don't dissect it because i actually just did when we said we heard something i immediately just said oh it's my phone but my phone was my phone wasn't playing music like what yeah right yeah right yeah i mean there's like a certain amount of like denialism that like some people do because

like i was showing people so i was at a party showing people like a video that i thought was like here you tell me what you think if this is real or fake and then they immediately just you could You can see in their eyes, because it was a video that I thought was actually compelling, you can see in their eyes that they could not tell what they were looking at and that they were like stumped, but they immediately just in the end said, oh, it's fake.

Even though like you could see in their face, like, like what? Like, like it looked like you could tell like their, their mind was, but they still said, no, it's fake. And I'm like, then they don't have a reason to say why, but it's kind of just like, hmm. Cause I, cause like, I mean, I am pretty discerning. I feel like, and I know like a cheapy fucking video when I see one.

Like if I see one of these UFO videos and like all of a sudden, like it starts, like if there's movement before it starts allegedly going fast and zooming off camera, that's like a dead giveaway to me.

Like this is like a fake video like i don't know i have to show you the kind of thing that i'm looking at but i hear it i think you guys are just picking up another reception from somewhere else, weird that is weird though i agree don't sound like words to me though but anyways weird how would we pick up a reception i don't know how to talk, but he's like we're about to go and cut this shit off because i got to get back to my shit I do usually like actually

I try to preach a good game but when things paranormal have happened in my life since especially UFO thing I do actually try to dismiss it and make it be like not a big thing because I am a pussy so like I don't want to like as much as you were like I'm so scared to go to the bathroom I actually will probably be the same. It's more like to me I when the things happen I really I'm so afraid that more will happen so I just am like, Like this radio that's clearly happening in our ears right now.

I just am telling myself right now that it's just police interception. It's like a UFO above us, like trying to scramble our talking. Oh my God. Everyone's like, shut the fuck up. Don't hear what he says. You are dead. Ain't nobody in California sound like that. You never had this? That's the first time this has ever happened. Really? Yeah. Oh, well, that's probably why I'm being more blasé. I thought this happened. No.

This is not like, what? we also haven't recorded here in a while but i don't know the difference the difference between from here to there oh i really thought that you guys have heard this before no, you're just right it sounds like a country i'm almost like worried i'm like this is gonna ruin it this random sound no we'll just say we have a ghost that's the ghost everybody if you can decipher the ghost text because we actually don't care enough what this ghost is telling us we're gay

and we can talk a lot over yourself so do you think that ghosts i hate gay people because like they're all from the past some the idea of i think american horror story put this in my head but the idea of an old-timey ghost being in the house of a gay couple and like being like seeing wild fucking and all that stuff and they're like like they have to live in that that hell because they were so against it back in the day I love that idea because I'm like yeah I love that idea yeah,

just fucking in your house all day. Sacrilegious freaks that's why my ghosts are mad yeah we upset your ghosts we upset your ghosts and your aliens and every other damn thing you got going on here they're just jealous, maybe they have ghost sex and aliens and they're probably who knows never know that's true, sometimes it sounds like a voice and sometimes it doesn't by the way like sometimes it sounds like it's going more i'm like it's like a scramble it sounds like

every time we stop talking they just like oh gotta change the force yeah is it repeating what the fuck i just said, that would freak me out i'd run out of this house right now i'm like what if it's just like our own voices like reverberating back in like a fucking but we want to be like oh you mean like if like feedback from like a, from our own mics. Right.

That's interesting. It's gone. Good. Do it i know they're like but they figured us out god look how like we're like what's going on y'all get to leave.

That's also true you can come with us you can come with us back to my house i've so when me and my husband were looking for houses i actually asked the realtor if it was haunted and i there is weirdly in some states because you have they have to tell that yeah in some states i found out like you have to disclose if there was literally public haunting is i don't think they call it public haunting but if their house has been known to be haunted in terms of like people broadcast it like let's say

this podcast and you talking about it if a realtor finds.

Out that you were talking about it and you didn't disclose that you think it's haunted if asked you can get in trouble that's hilarious i know it's not a fun little go see you fact yeah i love it because it is is something that would be interesting because if you saw a beautiful house and you have this like i would call it an infestation of like paranormal stuff that would make it a lot less appealing to me at least as a buyer like i don't know if

i personally would never buy a house knowing it's haunted at all at all and i don't think that's fair like i feel like i would be duped because i'd be constantly in a state of stress and if you know that information as the seller to a buyer like that i think that's kind of like shady to me like what do you want yeah yeah because i'm afraid of ghost i'm like who you're gonna call ghostbusters because i'm very afraid of ghosts like i if i bought

a house that was haunted it would stress me to no level and it could be detrimental to my mental health i would just be if i was a realtor i'd be like hey freaks holly halloween freaks looking for your spooky house to put on sale or whatever to be like oh i'm the the owner of the spooky house. I'd be like, yeah, and they fucking definitely really died here. I would like sell it up that way. Because some people like that. Some people, yeah. I think that would be a good thing.

You get to find a weird person for the weird home. Yeah. Yeah. What a niche realtor. Actually, wait a second. Exactly. Zillow needs to get on this. There's something there. They need to start on October. Zillow should only be showcasing the haunted houses. Yes. Oh, my God. That's cute. For the whole month. Oh, my God. That would be a cute idea. Yeah. Airbnb should do it, too. Yeah. For Halloween parties. Yep. Smart. Actually, you could do it here, really. Yeah, you should have a Halloween

party. The ghosts are active. That's true. alright queens any other alien or paranormal thoughts, I need to probably go home and watch some cartoons so I can sleep easy I was gonna say what are you talking about they're watching over you girl so you got them you both got them shadow people and I got some kind of I don't know something crawling around what do you have in your house nothing and we'll keep it that way, maybe they'll attach themselves to you tonight absolutely not.

Get you some sage on the way out yes please that's so funny no honestly and this is the last message for me and it's going directly to ghost leave me alone i'm not interested i'm really not not the drama i don't want to see ufo i don't want to see ghost anymore i don't want to see any of it leave me alone i don't have time for the drama that's it that was basically my message to the aliens i like told them out loud i was like hey i'm not the i'm not the one yeah please don't come back go

get you one that likes that kind of shit because i am not the one there's lots of people who claim they want to experience it erica badu is like upset that she has not seen an alien she said that she's trying very hard to see one really yeah i've seen her in a blaze pizza once it was really bizarre come on blaze yeah i know his show bizarre was not about the cold down too this sucks or was it mod maybe it's model i think both of them i love both of them i know right.

Damn it that's bad news i'm sorry erica she couldn't save it that one interaction in santa it was i think that's the one it's in santa monica it's blazer mod but that's where i saw it i remember being like actually it was kind of like seeing a ufo i was like i was not expecting that at all i'm just here for my pizza you're like damn like i don't want to look but i want to look is that her did i just see her about to like just turn around no one's gonna

believe me if i tell them i see her about to add a fucking blaze yeah and you didn't get a picture yeah oh yeah you did sure you saw her.

Looking for attention all right queens thanks for having me thanks for coming thank you for coming and sharing your thoughts and your entire story thanks i mean i have a much wider story than ufos but it is a very interesting part of my life that not a lot of people know about until now actually and just like you said earlier listener yes there are many fabulous people out there who who have had very many strange experiences.

So you're not alone. Well, you are. Actually, after tonight, really, I literally came in thinking, you guys are going to be like, he's so weird. Like, why? I saw a UFO. Oh, God. You all three just out-talked me about stories of horrifying things I'm going to be thinking about tonight. Ghost shadow people that you're just okay with. I know. Ghost shirts that are just behind you and you're like, just casual about it. I would have been shitting my pants.

Can we just ask real quick, Christophe, I like how you're like, weren't even going to talk about how you literally are haunted by fucking demons every night. I did not use the word haunted. Don't put that on my spirit guides. They are watching over me. He's just like, oh, I totally forgot. Okay. Because it happens so much to me, so I don't even really think about it. Jesus. That's even scarier, actually, to me. He's like, oh yeah, I get abducted every night. He doesn't feel like telling you.

Damn. What can I say? I'm blessed. Highly favored. Alright, everyone. Well, I think that was a good one. Again, I'd like to say thank you to our very special spooky guest, Bo. I'd like to say thank you again to myself, Nino, Dr. Mikey, and Kristoff. From all of us here at the spooky Queer LBC. You're good enough. You're smart enough. And doggone it, people like you. Good night. Good night. Good night. Good night, though. Happy Halloween. Happy Halloween.

Don't get abducted. But if you do, I don't know, go online about it. Still go to your Craigslist ad. That's what I'm saying.