Evolving Identities

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Today in Gay. Pope lets gays become priests, allegedly. Today in YAS, drag legend Murray Hill to host first-ever Drag King competition series. Today in homophobia, Idaho Republicans file resolution to repeal marriage equality. Also in homophobia, as Trump takes office, LGBTQ plus youth are calling crisis hotlines in record numbers.

Today in transphobia, Trump issues executive order to ban gender-affirming care for minors. Also in transphobia, we will go over an article by them called Everything You Need to Know About Trump's Executive Order Attempting to Erase Trans-Americans. Today in What the Fuck, all of Trump's bullshit so far. And also in What the Fuck, Oklahoma Senator introduces ban, introduces legislation to ban all porn and imprison content creators.

Also in what the fuck Amazon joins the growing list of companies cutting the mention of DEI and LGBTQ plus rights do any of you queens know about any of these things. It's only been 28 days 29 days and, and it's only been what like a week with him being in the office right exactly it's been 29 days of the new year and only 9 days of this fool being in office and it has been nothing but mayhem. Yeah. I did hear about the companies that are eliminating the DEI programs.

Yes. And it's a long-ass list. I'm not surprised Amazon joined it, to be honest. Amazon's been doing shady-ass shit forever. But also, it's like Target and McDonald's and Walmart. Target was surprising for me, to be honest. I was really sad about that. Me too. Yeah, that is very sad. And it's like, what the fuck? Are you all just literally just like, yes. They're yes companies. What the fuck? But, I mean, what was it?

He, like, did he put out some mandate about, like, you have to, like, close your DEI for, like, companies? No, he just said it was just the government was getting away with DEI. Yeah, so I'm, like. So everybody was just following suit. So the company was like, oh, since Trump is doing it, I guess we don't have to follow it or da-da-da, woo-woo-woo. Yeah. It's like, what the fuck? Yeah, it's not a mandatory program anymore.

But it makes sense, right? Because that's going to hold you accountable. and and i think i feel like their idea is that if i eliminate this then i am like scot-free to be like racist and sexist all at once you know or so jeff bezos company amazon who previously championed lgbtq plus rights and equity for black people has quietly removed phrases from their corporate policies back late december amazon's website also listed as support a legislation to combat misconduct and racial bias in policing,

efforts to protect and expand voting rights, and initiatives to provide better health and educational outcomes for Black people. Today, that paragraph with this statement has been removed. In addition to these phrases being removed from the website, Soha mentions of the word transgender, as reported by the Washington Post.

In response to the backlash, Amazon's spokesperson, Kelly Nantel, told The Post, we update this page from time to time to ensure that it reflects updates we've made to various programs and positions. Amazon distancing itself from their company's pro-LGBTQ plus beliefs have left some employees wondering if they'll lose their insurance coverage or any form of gender-affirming care.

Despite the removal of certain language from their website, Nantel insists the company will still offer insurance coverage to trans staff members.

Well, that's good. But that's all talk. We have to wait and see if that's going to actually be true. Because if that's the case, there's no reason for you to have had removed it.

I agree yeah but i think also like my concern is that you eliminate this program which i'm assuming is out here educating people protecting people who are part of the minority group right poc people black people queer people and but if you eliminate that then i feel like you're just leaving the door open for discrimination and how are these people going to want to work there are these people going to be able to work in a hostile environment right and feel safe you know

so like are you gonna are they gonna keep be able to keep these jobs and keep that insurance yeah and i hate because the people like to say or think that oh they're saying this just because they want to see two genders and then they want to say that it's like oh like everybody's inclusive within those two genders and it's like that's not the information y'all been putting out yeah previously So, for you to say that you're trying to get rid of this,

like, transgender, you're making it seem like, oh, like, even if you identify as a transgender female, they still see you as a female. That's what they're claiming. That's how they... Deliver the message yeah in reality we know that that's bullshit yeah like you still a hater.

You know what i'm saying yeah and even reality of them being like oh there's only two genders like excludes intersex people and and non-binary people you know that's true because them motherfuckers do exist yeah i mean how would you feel if like all of a sudden you're at a company that is doing these policies and like we're not doing them anymore yeah i'd be like why Yeah.

Like, you don't like us? I mean, but like if it's your livelihood, it's just like you damned if you do and you damned if you don't because you'd be like, well, shit, I still need to work. But also I want to make sure that I feel safe and heard with the company that I work for. But it's also like I do need to pay my bills, which is wild. Yep. So we need unions. So by this article by them, Trump's anti-woke and DEI funding freeze memo explained by them.com.

The Office of Management and Budget, better known as OMB, declared a wide range freeze on grants and financial assistance across the U.S. Government this week, causing outcry and confusion across federal agencies before it was rescinded two days later.

Legal action had already begun to challenge the OMB memo before it was abruptly canceled on Wednesday afternoon But its insurance quickly caused widespread confusion and outrage at all levels of government Staffers of some government programs and non-profit organizations said that they were concerned the freeze could severely impact their work or wipe it out entirely While administrative officials claimed the freeze was necessary to identify and root out woke programs that do not align

with Trump's far right agenda, Oh my god like that's like that's so stupid like you don't. Stop funding the whole fucking programs to figure out the fucking woke programs. Yeah. In the roughly two day span between its insurance and withdrawal, the OMB funding freeze created significant uncertainty as to how it would affect various programs if it was allowed to take effect at all.

But even though the memo has now been mustingly canceled as of Wednesday afternoon, White House Press Secretary Caroline Levitt claimed in a post on X, formerly Twitter, that the recession applies only to the OMB memo itself, not Trump's general freeze on federal funding as outlined in his executive orders since January 20th. The memo was only rescinded to end any confusion created by a district court's states on the memo issued Tuesday.

Even though the memo was withdrawn, it still provides insight into further details of Trump's goals for altering the U.S. federal government through executive action.

Here's what we know right now about the OMB memo. It aims in how officials respond to the immediate aftermath. According to this memo. I guess it's Miranda M2513, signed by acting OMB director Matthew Viath. All federal assistance, including grants, loans, loan guarantees, and insurance was to be paused for programs that conflict with Trump's executive orders.

Specifically, his orders prohibiting DEI programs, rolling back environmental regulations, enacting mass deportations, blocking abortion related care and outlining trans identities, which the memo calls woke gender ideology. Ideology they commended in this condemned in this memo what he referred to as marcus equity.

Transgenderism and green new deal social engineering policies on wednesday afternoon new agencies obtained another omb memo officially rescinded the first if you have questions about implementing the president's executive orders please contact your agency's general counsel the second memo reportedly read so it's like y'all coming out with fucking memos after memos after memos y'all man it's like oh man don't nobody got time for that bullshit so i heard i was watching

this thing on tiktok and it was a senator being interviewed on cnn and they're pressing him because one of the major concerns was like the impact was going to have like on head start and after school like lunches and all that stuff and the center was like well i was working since i was 14 like what these kids should be do that that we're during this freeze we should assess who can go out and work and fend for themselves and who can't and people who can't will

give them food and i was like you're gonna go make like a 14 year old go work so they can eat at school i yeah i saw that right but that but you want to know what that's some bullshit because i also was working when i was 14 and you know what that money went to the fucking household so i'm I bet you if that motherfucker's talking about he's working at 14, that money wasn't going to him. He wasn't motherfucking bad shit. He was...

Well, I don't know. I don't know how he grew up. He was probably working at his dad's company doing nothing. But for you to even be like, let's cancel all the school lunches and then let the kids find the jobs. What jobs are they going to get? These motherfucking grown folks can't even fucking find a job. So when you talk about a 14-year-old, you think a company going to hire a 14-year-old over a fucking 32-year-old? And then they can only work four hours a day?

They're going to make them go farm. they do not no companies when i was a fucking teenager i was on my fucking bootstraps or whatever the fuck if i can try to get a job a fucking applying to places at 16 and no place wanted to hire me because i was 16 yeah and they don't fucking hire kids they don't fucking have time for that shit right goodbye that shit was crazy gotta get jobs and you know they're gonna to teach him something oh bye but yeah but like that that memo was it like ruffled a lot

of feathers like people were really worried and scared because like even my job because we're we're public health and we're going to be affected by it like insurance wouldn't be able to bill people would not be able to get paid like it would have been a huge disruption even though saying it was not meant to disrupt right it wasn't meant to disrupt but everybody gets some form of grants or assistance from the government. Yeah.

And then even if you're working with city, state, or county, like, it's all fucking gonna, 50 states, motherfucker. You don't think that was going to fucking start a fucking outrage? That's true. So fucking stupid. I lulled when I saw Rissons. Yeah. I was like, you dumb bitch. But you know what? That's good. Because it shows that we can fight back. Yeah. And then it's not a fucking dictatorship. Yeah, he's going to continue to do this crazy fucking shit.

But you have to be on it and fucking whine on social media, I guess. Or call and sue. No, that's what you have to do. You have to make lawsuits. That's all that this is right it's like they had so many lawsuits that were filed because of it i mean that's what you have to do you just have to continue to sue trump yeah so.

Yeah because when all these other things that are not getting that much pushback like the transgender like military ban that we already know that's going to go into effect like i don't hear no one like going off in the same way right like we could have obviously had the same power to take that and say stop that right yeah yeah hmm because that's not affecting everybody uh-huh yeah that's a problem that's true well i guess we need to get some fucking unity we need

to get some pro bono lawyers for these trans folks well i think i think what's going to happen in terms of like trans rights is that like sanctuary states and governments are going to like file lawsuits I feel like California is definitely going to push and be probably one of the leaders in filing lawsuits for trans people, for trans rights.

At least that's my hope. I mean, if you're a freaking Floridian trans refugee, is ICE going to stop you and be like, we're going to deport you to go somewhere else? I mean, if they can deport you to another country, why would they not choose to now deport you back to Florida? I don't know. Yeah. If you don't have your real ID? Not the real ID. I don't know. I don't know how likely that is. I'm just saying. Yeah. Like, why would they care, right? If it's within the states?

I'm just so sick of this. I try my best to not even look at the news or try to be on social media because it seems like it's something out of Trump's office every freaking single day.

Maybe that's the answer is yeah just don't look because if the only answer is actually suing in mass numbers then there is no point for you to be paying attention to the news because the only point allegedly to be paying attention is so you can vote on things to, stop these things right so you really don't have to be paying attention until the fucking election day which nobody reads the fucking ballots anyways until the fucking minute before yeah until something stupid happens yeah i'm this

mess i guess i don't know i'm giving bad advice.

I'm desperate yeah well i think it's about like definitely advocating right like i think we need to like fuel up like organizations that are going to do lawsuits like aclu right there you know they're going to come in and file lawsuits right i don't know if glad does lawsuits but aclu for sure you know and i think what i hope and i think will be helpful is like if all people band together like black people you know latinos queer people like if we banded together and like really

pulled our resources together like we can make a huge amount of change because we didn't understand like what an individual's oppression is everyone's oppression and we can't like pick and choose yeah but it's unfortunate that this had to happen because there's a lot of latinos and asian communities who was voting for this motherfucker who now having some of their family and having themselves at risk of being deported.

Now the crocodile tails is coming. But you should have figured that we are stronger together than being with that motherfucker. I mean, I don't understand. I mean, I've been seeing all these stupid videos, two of these people who voted for Trump and now they're crying because I didn't know that this was going to happen. And it's like, bitch, how do you know? What did you read?

Who did you think? Because then they love sending out this old fucking bullshit like they'll have like MS-13 fucking gang members like this is what they're going after not and then they'll have a picture of farmers and shit like no he's going after every motherfucking body and he ain't gonna get his hands on MS-13 what the fuck the fuck right right, and then I've seen a motherfucking video of somebody like, ice and he had a fucking latinos for trump with with him in handcuffs i was

like i hope that's i hope that is not ai right no i mean i don't feel i don't feel any kind of like, solace and like laughing at anybody it like at this point it's like fuck.

It's wild it is wild did you see that fucking dumb bitch like library person who did the nazi salute and she was like giving my heart out to you like just like basically saying shit like that mocking like just making a video for stuff online no and then dumb bitch got fired good she should have you're not rich bitch yeah that shit people are like but it's like and then not just getting off subject but it's not off subject because we're in the fucking wind of stupid shit

now yeah some senator posted on fucking x talking about oh yeah you should start to deport selena gomez oh i saw that i was like what like now what the hell she do yeah she's america's favorite like you don't watch murders on the building like yeah she spoke out against immigration on her instagram and so that senator that was his response to her i'm all not me imagining her living life in mexico no she's rich fine yeah um yeah no i'm just kidding don't deport her either right just

because you're rich don't mean you can't get deported i know well it almost seems like if you have money it probably wouldn't matter i mean you wouldn't be in that situation because it looks like they're just rounding people up all the fucking streets yeah, yeah so many so many americans have gotten round up in that too.

Fucking telling native americans what oh yeah they don't want to give them birthright citizenship right like this is my right yeah this is my country this is my land of tea i mean that's fucking that's that's always been the mentality anyways yeah and it's kind of like a lot of i feel like a lot of people like you like there's a certain like i feel like lens that some news organizations are doing where they're like finally acting like the cloak has been lifted and the villain has finally

been revealed and it's like bitch we done been known i'm acting like this is like the first time we all figured it out that this is actually the nazi regime we done been fucking known yeah like oh my god and then and then they're trying to like explain like how like like hitler took over germany and it was like bitch we already knew we already knew this was happening and now you're still barely acting yeah but then that one cnn guy he like resigned or

whatever and it's like okay i guess that's like an official like admission that yes cnn is obviously what is it compromised but we already done all done yeah too so it's like you just mad because you got what a midnight slot i mean we already said last episode before this before he even resigned that we're the news has been compromised beyond like all means.

So what does it matter if i believe the crazy person on the street right, what else trump is just all over the place we're at a trump bullshit oh the well this one the everything you need to know about Trump's executive orders attempting to erase trans-Americans. So what Trump has done so far for against trans-Americans is he defines gender as binary and determined at birth. And he has also, he seeks to halt the issuance of ex-gender markers on U.S. passports.

And he is attacking the basic protections for incarcerated trans people. Meaning that he's not going to, he's going to house them according probably to their sex assigned at birth. But you want to know something that's also weird about something that I've noticed?

They so focused and this is the crazy part because trans goes both ways there's trans women there's trans males but the whole focus is them taking trans females and putting them back into the male population they have not mentioned nothing or like and that's the focus and it's crazy because there's a lot of trans man that's in man i mean male jails like in in prisons like but the focus is on trans women and it's so it's so weird because i'm like why is this such the focus because i'm

quite sure the statistics is possibly the same yeah i mean granted it may be a little have been more trans women in prisons versus trans. I don't know the statistics, but it's the focus part because it's only focused on trans women. And it's so fucking weird.

We know why i mean yeah we know why because that's what gets the people boiled blood i know yeah but i think it's also very patriarchal right you know it's like you know we already know these these men hate women right and and i feel what are they going to hate more or are are trans women right like from their perspective they're not real women right and they're they're men and i don't know i just get this vibe of they're just like mad that they're that trans women

are choosing not to identify as men because they're not and and like i don't know they probably feel betrayed right like it's very it feels just very patriarchal to me yeah i feel like i hear like a i not that.

I hear or i probably do hear but i feel like the sentiment is just kind of like they think that trans women are like essentially trying to bow out of some kind of like responsibilities of life because they want to abandon manhood yeah and it's like they think that like oh you're not trying to step up and be like the man you need to be and you're going to like become a woman because you don't want to like basically take up the reins of i don't know manhood because they're you're

weak or something like that and it's like bro that's not what it is yeah no not at all like the fuck and if your main identity is being a man then you know like i feel yeah you're gonna have like a strong reaction because like we get men get a lot of like things placed on them right like gender is just oppressive to women it's oppressive to men too right like there's hype it's oppressive because of hyper masculinity right because of machismo and all these things right you You know,

yes, they benefit from privilege, but there's also a lot of downfall, you know. So, I don't know. I feel like. It's that too. Hmm. Pope lets priests be gay. Allegedly. Let's see. Why allegedly? Because I don't believe it. Let's see. This is from Pink News. New guidelines released by Italian Bishops Conference has suggested that out gay men could become priests. The conference's guidelines said that gay men should not be barred from the priesthood if they satisfy other conditions for appointment.

The report, titled Guidelines and Norms for Seminaries, wrote, When referring to homosexual tendencies, it's also appropriate not to reduce discernment only to this aspect, but, as for every candidate, to grasp its meaning in the global framework of the young person's personality. Whatever that means. But it did not make clear that gay priests could not have sex like heterosexual priests, who have always been banned from the practice.

Previously, the Catholic Church has declared that gay people should be treated with dignity and respect, but that homosexuality is intrinsically disordered, and that men who practice homosexuality present deep-seated homosexual tendencies or support the so-called gay culture cannot be ordained. The new guidelines are a major step forward towards suggesting that gay men would not be exclusively prohibited from priesthood.

They are also suggestive of a holistic view of priestly candidates, as sexuality should be considered only as one aspect of their personality. But it is not clear, though, whether the guidelines would be accepted in other countries.

This comes after the sitting Pope Francis has made strides towards acceptance of the LGBTQ community within the Catholic Church, previously telling the Associated Press in 2023 that being homosexual isn't a crime but and also approving blessings for the same-sex couples but not marriages however while francis has been more supportive of lgbq plus rights than the previous popes he also said that gay men should not be allowed

to enter the priesthood using the italian homophobic slur in his statement in may last year so he's still calling us whatever he's calling us come. Come be priest faggots. Right? The fuck? Pope Francis said that seminary candidates should be screened carefully and that priests who pursue sexual relationships should leave the priesthood. I mean, if you're fucking going to be a priest, your sexual orientation should not even come to play since you're not having sex. None of you are having sex.

So why does it matter what anybody's sexual orientation is? You are. A child of God. You are politically asexual to your... To your religion yeah yeah so it does not matter so shut the fuck up and just gift them but it's part of our personality like they said.

Like straight is part of your person yeah i guess straight is part of your personality because i look at my straight people like oh that's just your personality just straightness is showing yeah exactly, would you become a priest no no not at all i actually just became ordained, i'm gonna do oh because you're going to marry someone you're a minister though i'm a minister yeah so come join my megachurch what is it called church of queer lbc it is called,

it is called the european christian fundamentalist money hood money please money money money money, it's called calvary chapel it's spelled different though mm-hmm two k's yeah i think it's just very it's very interesting that like all these years like a catharsis has like shamed being gay and now i mean they're changing their tune which is good but like there's a lot of shame that you've instilled in people and that doesn't go over doesn't go away overnight you know you cause a lot of harm.

It's funny it's like who told you that you have to let them because it's like you're constantly like repeating that you don't like them and you don't want them but it's like but now we're letting you yeah so it's like who's forcing you i know idaho republicans file a resolution to repeal marriage equality oh i heard i heard that if if they repeal marriage equality that doesn't, invalidate marriages that happen before it only like future marriages so get

married quickly so you're grandfathered in yeah you're grandfathered in, that's interesting and stupid at the same time it's just like yeah, Like, what? That doesn't even make sense. Like, why can't you just annul them?

So, hmm. I mean, because I guess, because divorces cost money, and the state would be losing out on divorce money if they just made everybody annulled, like, automatically. Yeah, that's true. I think annulment is a timeline. But if they just like you know made it null you're like null and void your agreement your marriage agreement as opposed you know i don't know how would they even do that i don't know just beyond i mean like where would your your mayor like where would your.

You're being married even be down legally anywhere that it would be like erased, well it's just like made with taxes that's gonna affect your taxes that's gonna affect like hospital visits insurance benefits like retirement stuff like that like that's what it's going to impact because those things legally are defined are usually tied to marriage for spouses to get those things i mean no insurance ain't about yeah keeping no one exactly exactly yeah like Life insurance and stuff like that.

Like, all that relies on being legally married under the eyes of the government. Because that's all a marriage certificate is. Is a legal acknowledgement from the government that y'all are married and now you get these benefits. Well, if gay marriage isn't old, we can marry heterosexual counterparts. Black marriages.

Or, yeah, lesbians. We can marry lesbians. You, non-binary. Oh man so how does this make you guys feel living in this nazi collapse are you feeling great, fantastic like a vacation you know an act of volcano, i know it's definitely his little shock and awe yeah i definitely am like addicted to the news more than I already not was. Yeah.

One thing he knows how to do is market. He knows how to get the people fucking watching. That's how fucking Apprentice became the one motherfucking show when it first came out, the number one show, because he know how to get motherfuckers to watch his stupid shit. We just need more, like, diddy docs so I can watch something else. Y'all need more Teletubbies in your life. Some more joy.

That's true. Yeah. Yeah, it's kind of like every second I'm just trying to like check the news for what's the latest right what's the latest craziness that came out right am I losing. Y'all need to watch more porn and y'all better hurry up because according to an Oklahoma senator who introduced legislation to ban all porn and imprison content creators.

Wow. So an Oklahoma state senator has introduced legislation that will ban all pornography with criminal penalties up to 10 years in prison for the production, distribution, or possession of any pornograph, according to a press release from the Oklahoma Senate SB 593.

Proposed by senator dusty devers you sound like a fucking what the fuck is he talking about dusty the fuck on january 21st is part of a slate of eight bills by the legislator to restore moral sanity to the state of oklahoma the bill entitled increasing penalties for child pornography and prohibiting pornography in oklahoma goes far beyond the scope suggested in this title while it does advocate for raising the penalty for the possession distribution or production of child pornography for up to

zero to 20 years up to 10 or up to 10 to 30 years the bill has gone so far as to prohibit pornography entirely pornography is both degenerate material and have a highly addictive drug yeah I mean, but also, but also cigarettes. I mean, also alcohol. There's a lot of highly addictive drugs out here. And sis, we know how this goes. You outlaw it, and that's not going to stop people from doing it. That's not going to stop it. Look at heroin.

Come on. It's not. All you're going to do is just get some bootleg porn. Yeah. And it might be better. No, I'm sorry. But Devers said in a press release, it ruins marriages, ruins lives, destroys innocence, warps young people's perception of the opposite sex, turns women into objects, turn man into objects, degrades human dignity, and corrodes the moral fabric of society and decent society will stand against the plague with the full weight of the law.

Damn. Fuck you, Devas. I mean, some of those things are true. I mean, but also some does everything. So does you fucking trying to hook up with your secretary. So does BP's oil spill, but I don't see you doing a damn fucking thing.

You know what so does gmo and fucking chicken oh right he i don't this dude i don't even fucking want to read all this stupid shit yeah but so that means what you gotta fucking delete your accounts and delete all the and but it's like even if you have like one video it's gonna be redistributed so that they're still gonna arrest you for an old video you did look i got a few old ones now i got some vhs and a couple of dvds i don't know how i'm gonna play them bitches but i'll find

a way well good thing this is in oklahoma but i think it's this feels very because i feel everyone's focusing on nazis and stuff like that but this is also very christian extremist you know like especially this is like oh no pornography and while some of those things are true about pornography like like this is about like shaming sex right and i feel christianity does a very very good job of that and the reason why pornography

looks the way it does is because it gets shamed and no this is how people educate and if you allow kids and parents to educate and get educated then no one will have to rely on pornography for education you know just ask ridiculous. This is what it's coming to, I'm going to see what the fuck Mr. Dusty Devers look like. Welcome to your new puritanical lifestyle. Right? But only the elite can watch pouring and have hookers. Oh, okay. I mean, they're already diddling kids, as it were.

If this ain't a fucking... I'm quite sure he's on Grindr. Who? Dusty? Dusty Deviant? But yeah, that's interesting. I don't think this is going to go through. I feel like that's some sort of constitutional violation.

I mean, but the article did read that there's 16 states who also tried to push legislation like this before and currently. So it's like, if enough is, I mean, they got their boy in office. So shit, you can come up with any kind of silly legislation. And if the Republicans are going to be behind it, they got the wheel in the way.

You would just assume that it's just i mean this is like a simple freedom of speech the end yeah no like no like why would you even entertain this yeah well that's the same thing with birthright citizenship that he's trying to take away right it's like homie like this is the constitution like i'm not here to defend the constitution because it's shitty on its own but like there's literally a god-given right and a right in the constitution it's like he might as just said like delete

all brown people and that's the new law like girl bye, anybody of alabaster skin is free to be themselves. Alabaster skin is free to be themselves, but I also heard something about the fucking his press secretary or something said that the constitution is unconstitutional I said okay we just I don't have to say anything today. I can't. I can't. I don't even know why they play this shit. Well, I guess it's news. Wow. What else was it? I also heard there's a lot of countries protesting for

us that we're not getting to see. And the algorithms. Other countries are protesting the US government and all that stuff. I hope so. I mean... I don't know. I'm off the social media now. I know. I think you're off all of it. Yeah. I officially deleted my own Instagram and my dogs too. And then. That dog was like, what the fuck? I got. I was going to delete the podcast Instagram, but I'm like, let me warn everybody first.

And then I still haven't figured out how Blue Sky works officially. So. And i'm just like yeah slowly but surely but i mean i always wanted to get off of all the social media platforms this is just like a better push for me to be like okay i absolve myself i saw i saw a video today because i was still on looking at a video.

And so i saw the video and it was like in defense of why i'm still on the platform they're basically saying like oh they never protected us anyways before so like why should we get off because we need to resist and be here and whatever be vocal or be that type of mindset but at the end of the day my whole stance is like i am not giving you any more money so being on your platform is still giving you money yeah so i'm not gonna try to still give you money I'm absolving myself of you.

I'm not trying to resist on you. Yeah, because I think we need to recognize the fact that they only listen to when we impact their money. And yeah, if you do stay on, you're still giving them money with all the ads and everything that you're doing. I mean, do users have the right to sue social media platforms for like... See, that's why y'all should have written them terms and conditions. So no, you cannot.

Unfortunately right oh well but i'm confused because i'm like if i like you see these alleged like oh a phone on sale for ten thousand dollars it still has a tiktok app i'm like bitch it's not gonna work right but people stupid well because some people deleted the tiktok app and then they can't get it again because it's not in the app store so that's why i see that's funny but also if your only platform that you're making your money on is literally TikTok, girl, you need to diversify.

Maybe they make good money there, but you need to find a new way. Any other gay news? Any other gay thoughts? I'm not thirsty. I'm not thirsty, but I feel like I could use a little drip drop. But I have nothing.

This Patron that's sitting right here at this table throw it up long beach, yeah listen all this is scary and it's okay you just gotta like stick together and like, Be in community, you know, and protect each other. Yes. And sue. And sue. Lawyer up is... Make noise. Mm-hmm. That's what I was telling everybody, I think, on New Year's Eve. I was like, does anyone have any lawyer friends? Mm-hmm. I was like, 2025 is the year I get litigious.

Mm-hmm. Lawyer up. Sue them. But what kind of lawyer? I don't know. All of them. One that is, like, obviously a good one. So they would have lots of luck and winning lots of luck and winning you'll be very smart and educated and expensive and normally expensive but would take my cases on pro bono because they know I am worth their time.

So if you're a lawyer hit us up on our Instagram that's still on while it's on while it's still running yeah I mean, I think we need to definitely be making our need to be protesting. We need to like protest with our money and not buy from people who are against our rights and our existence. It was funny because I was like, okay, because I'm like, I used to be Amazon addicted shopper. And so I was like, I definitely am going to stop buying from them.

So I definitely have halted all purchases to Amazon at this point. And i'm going out into the brick and mortars and i'm revitalizing america.

One shop at a time one shop at a time that's crazy yeah i mean i like shop black and brown owned and queer owned and then i saw that thing about target and i was like well i guess can't stop you either bitch yeah like where you gonna go the last purchase that i made in a store was at a harbor freight because i needed to buy tools okay well you already know harbor freight was on the list. Were they? Damn it. It was on the list where Trump was running.

Fuck, I didn't even see that. See, we need just like a permalist. Maybe we should have like an app. I'm sure that's going to get denied. Sure there is somewhere. It's the evil app. Who's evil? Oh, but to end it off on a good note, did y'all hear about that drag legend Murray Hill to host his first ever Drag King competition series? That's cool. That's well overdue. Move over, RuPaul.

Murray Hill is on the loose. So drag performer Murray Hill is set to host the first ever Drag King competition series. LGBTQ plus streaming service Reverie announced Monday that the Somebody Somewhere actor will host King of Drag, referred to in a press release as the world's first Drag King competition series. I'm so excited to be working with Reverie as the host of King of Drag. Hill said in a statement, I started performing in 1995, so it's long overdue

for the Kings to take center stage. This vibrant community deserves to be in the spotlight and I'll be their biggest hype man. I can't wait to work with the Kings and introduce them to the biggest audience possible. Thanks to every that's showbiz. The show will feature drag king performers and will expansively represent drag while promoting inclusion, authentic self-expression and diverse gender identities, including trans mask, cisgender women, non-binary and more.

The press release notes, King of Drag, created by Damien Pellexon and Christopher J. Rodriguez, will premiere in spring 2025 and consist of six episodes. Casting is now underway. According to the press release, the first season will follow the journey of eight of America's top drag king performers as they compete for the title of the King of Drag. Okay.

It also says that rather than rehash the format of other drag competition shows, the series producers will showcase Drag King's unique talents, including comedy, unconventional performances and timely commentary on masculinity, which has been part of the Drag King subculture for decades. The press release reads in each episode, we will learn more about the individual king's backstory, what motivates them and their goals for kinking.

Hill, a legend of the New York City drag scene, told Good Morning America in June 2023 he was breaking the queer trans drag king glass ceiling as host of Hulu's Drag Me to Dinner. He also told GMA it was time for drag kings like him to get a little FaceTime and pop culture. So be on the lookout for that. We can't wait to see you, Hill. That's cool. I'm excited. I saw the Drag Me to Dinner on Hulu. Oh, was it good? Is it like a series?

Yeah. So every premise of that is they bring four drag queens on and they team up. So there's two teams and they create a dinner and then they get judged on the dinner that they make. So let's make the food. They make it like they serve it to a dinner party? Yeah. So creating a dinner party for the judges and judges decide which one was better. And he's a host. He's actually really funny. Oh, okay. Nice. Yeah. And I agree. I think drag queens have long overdue.

They definitely need their shine yeah like I'm, yeah and we have our own we have our own legendary drag king Landon Sider who won Dragula oh okay yeah they're really cool and they're really great artists. That's amazing. And when is they going to be on the show? I hope so. That would be cool. Everyone know, right? That's fun. I want to see more drag king stuff. Yeah. I do too. I want to see it become more. Because I wonder why drag. I wonder why. Excuse me.

I wonder why that hasn't been on RuPaul's Drag Race. Because it's just primarily just for. The queens. The queens. Mm-hmm. You know, she's not really about diversifying. That is true. I mean, I heard that to be true. But you ain't heard that from her. As she would say. What does she do? All I know is something about Shasay you stay or Shasay you way. Fasay way. Shantae you stay. Dang. Y'all are not gay.

Love you, queen. and King Hill oh what I wonder what's his name like King of the Hill, drag King of the Hill that would be a cool name alright well my thirst has been quenched I got my little drip back I think these queens have deserved a break. Music.

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And we're back. So today we are going to discuss the topic of identity. How do our identities shift and change the more we learn about ourselves and the community? How does our language inform our identity? Are there any tensions between older and younger LGBTQ generations regarding identity labels?

How does representation in media help shape our identity? And with us here today to discuss this topic is our very special guest, Daylin. Hello, Daylin, and welcome. Thank you. Hello. Well, why don't you tell us in your own words, who are you? What are you? Why are you? Oh my goodness. Wow. Okay. My name is Daylin. I'm 26. I've been in Long Beach for almost three, four, maybe five years now. It's been a while.

And yeah I identify as a lesbian she her pronouns and yeah I came out in 2022 so it's been about three years kind of you know a little baby gay and yeah it's been definitely a journey with my identity and just kind of getting to where I am at today. So how has it been with your newly journey into the culture of LGBTQ plus I?

I think it's been great. You know, I feel really grateful for coming out when I did, you know, I feel like coming out as an adult is easier, I think, than, you know, growing up queer. And I mean, I had those feelings, but I just wasn't really ready to embrace them yet. And so just really was hiding a lot. But But still, you know, I just feel like coming out as an adult with, you know, living in Long Beach, having supportive friends, having, you know.

Queer friends and, you know, just already being in such a great environment already was easy. It was great. And I feel like it's been a really great journey. That's good because I always tell people like you got to come out on your own time. Like it is what it is. And don't rush for no motherfucking body. Do you?

Yeah. Yeah, exactly. I grew up my mom is lesbian and so a lot of times growing up I just was like I don't know I don't want to follow in my mom's footsteps you know trying to be a rebel yeah exactly so I was just like no no I'm I don't know what I'm talking about and then I remember being in college and having so many moments of like I don't feel comfortable and with the way I'm dressing and how I feel and I was like but I still just wasn't ready to address it and I felt like.

You know, addressing how I felt identity-wise meant that I was also addressing how I felt sexuality-wise. And, you know, now knowing that it didn't really have to be all that, you know, I could have taken it one step at a time. But, you know, gay panic, all of that. Gay panic is real. Yeah. So still just wasn't ready until I was in a committed, long-term committed relationship with a man. And I was like, I fucking hate this.

Yeah. We lived together and everything. And like six months into our lease, I was like, okay, I can't do this anymore. I don't like it here. Like you was faking the funk and you just like your body and your mental was just like. Yes. I felt the streets of calling. Exactly. I felt so disconnected from myself and just even like the role that I was playing in the relationship, you know, just he was such a hetero man, just so heteronormative. And, you know, just taking on that dominant role.

And I was, you know, always kind of felt just kind of shrunken. And I didn't like that feeling. And I was like, I don't even, you know, I'm not even sure if I like men fully. I was like, this is just, it's everything was just so uncomfortable during that time. But I just knew I had to get out of that and figure something out. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. And now were you able to, were you in Long Beach when you came out? Yes. Yes, I was in Long Beach at the time.

And yeah, when I finally came out, I just came out as queer, was still figuring it out. Okay, yeah. And you allow yourself that space to walk in your queerness to see where this is going to go. Yeah, yeah. Because it's so freshly new to you as well. Exactly, exactly. So freshly coming out, I was like, you know, I think I'm just queer. I don't know. I don't know yet. And when I first came out, my first relationship was with a trans man.

And great experience for the most part. But that's when I realized I was like, he's a man. You know, he's just like, and I was like, I hate this. I'm like, there's something about the man.

There's something about the man. And so I think that's when I finally realized, I think I'm lesbian. And that was a really great feeling to finally get to that point and realize like, oh, wow. And my first like relationship with a woman was amazing. And everything just clicked and felt so great.

But still even identifying as lesbian still struggled with my identity and my fam and my mask you know what is what does that look like i felt like i wanted to take on that more dominant part in a relationship and so because of that i felt like i had to be mask and i still don't regret that decision i like you know i'm 10 times more comfortable now than i was when i was dressing as a femme but still now knowing i could have been the dominant as a femme you know right you know it's you

could be whatever you want yeah you know you don't have to put yourself in these boxes but yeah yeah and here i am yeah always and for you like it sounded like there was some pressure coming to like fit into like the fem or mass dynamic was that like internal was external like where was that coming from? I think it was more so internal. My, I had a best friend, well, I still my best friend until this day. They then pronouns and they're mass presenting lesbian.

And so, and they're older than me, they're 34. And so I, they helped me a lot coming into my queerness. And. Because of that, I felt like, you know, I was kind of, you know, influenced by them, but at the same time, still having my own mind. But internally, I felt like I had to make that choice, especially because, I don't know, I'm a Libra. So I always see this. Libras unite. I'm a Libra, so I always see both sides.

I always struggle with making a choice. And I always feel like I have to make a choice. But at the same time, I absolutely knew I didn't like being femme, though.

I hated getting my hair done I always loved the end results I loved like of course like once it was done I was like love that but I hated everything about it I hated you know getting my nails done I didn't really like putting on makeup I hated the tight clothes I hated everything about it yeah even just the decision to cut my hair I hated combing my hair I had very long curly hair thick afro and I hated it because I just hate having to like comb my hair every day yes it

was way too much and so while i did feel like i had to choose once i finally came to that decision of like wait i fucking hate this shit i was like it became a lot easier so yeah definitely a decision i don't regret that reminds me of like that scene is that mulan when they're like trying to like take her hair and like turn her into like this pretty girl and she's just like struggling is that mulan yeah yeah in the beginning yeah maybe i don't watch a lot of movies.

Yeah. Damn. Damn. My bad. My bad. But yeah, no, it was hard trying to fit into that norm for sure. And yeah, I definitely feel so much more comfortable with who I am now, but I will say, I still feel like that bad bitch that I was. And I'll think that'll ever change.

Nice. Yeah, I feel like I couldn't fully go into the whole like, stud you know I'm hard I'm mass like I just that didn't feel right either right that was odd to me and it yeah I feel like I still feel like the bad bitch who had you know my 30 inch weave bust down don't play with it middle part where you know don't play with it right and yeah I still feel like the girl who had the nails the coffin style nails like that's still all within me, and I still don't want to give that up either.

Right. And I don't feel like I should have to. Because it's an energy.

It's not a style. It's an energy in regards to how it makes you feel. And I'm glad that you allowed yourself to be able to walk in your queerness to see where you're going to land versus just like trying to... Because some people when they first come out, you know, they got to tag on and see how everything's going to play out. Yeah. And then they get lost in the way. Mm-hmm. Get lost in the way. When you were, before you came out, did you find yourself

like adhering to the gender roles a lot, like outside of relationships as well? Yes, absolutely. Absolutely. Just kind of playing into everything and hating it so much without really fully acknowledging how much I hated it. Yeah, you know, definitely the whole getting ready with your girls and doing all that.

And I would do it and it's fun and it's like I mean I think I more so like the connection with my best friends and my home girls you know that's what I'm really in it for but the whole like getting ready I was like god I fucking hate this, like this shit sucks and then it's like the little clothes it's cold outside like I want to put on some pants right but I can't I gotta wear this skirt you know it's not 75 degrees outside no, like Like, global warming has really changed things. It's cold.

So, yeah, yeah. No, I was definitely playing into those norms and definitely felt like I had to. I was in a sorority in college. And so, you know, that is kind of still ingrained in me. And, you know, wearing the dress for my sorority induction. And I had on a white dress with pearls and stockings and kitten heels. Yeah, but that is still kind of like all in me, but I hated it. Yeah. I feel that. I feel that. I love it. Have your guys' identities changed over

time with your coming out? Do you think you're different? Any different than you were? No, I'm still the same. Same old queer. But you can't teach an old dog tricks. Because I came out when I was like 37. So I'm about to change shit about me. I came out as bi initially but i don't know i don't know that is so much in, that i'm attracted to women as much as like this is a nice easier introduction for people to.

My queerness you know you know because there's still hope that you'll marry a woman you know yeah but i think with time like gay feels like a lot more appropriate for me and i think also with my gender has like shifted and changed as well you know i wouldn't say i necessarily would obviously back i use like back then i use like he him pronouns you know i use like all of them now like with the preference maybe more for like they them now but i remember growing up like i never felt like part

of the boys right i never felt like a guy like i saw guys i'm.

Just like i don't act like that like that's weird that's gross like i'm not interested in that at all so i always felt different in terms of that and i think once it came out and i started to that gave me opportunity to explore my gender and to kind of be more expansive with it you know and for me like non-binary fits a little bit more than than being a cis male so that that definitely has shifted as well i feel like what you were saying the same like growing up like being a little kid like

definitely you know what the craziest part was i don't even associate it with anything but when i was little they would call me a man and i would get upset and i would be getting mad and i would be so mad that i would like have a tantrum like anytime they would call me a man and i'd be like fuck that i'm not a man i don't want to be a man i don't like whatever they stand for and i hate them like i get three years old i'm like fuck men i'm not that and like yeah i get really

mad And when I would grow up, yeah, like. I definitely did not see myself as, like...

Being with the boys like you were saying like i definitely felt like oh if if you're boys and i'm those are girls i definitely am probably the girls yeah yeah i prefer them uh-huh like i'm definitely it's definitely a lot easier for me to play barbies like immediately than for me to even understand what you're trying to say with this football like i don't and i don't want it and i And then it was also kind of like that whole world rejected me on top of it.

So I was like, I don't even know if it was just that I was rejecting it because I was already being rejected. So I don't even know. Because I was so young when that by the time that stuff was already happening to me, I like have zero clue what was like first. So who knows? But I do always hated men.

Men. It's the nominator. Fine. But yeah as far as like identity labels when i was like in the closet i had such a hard time ever yeah thinking like i would be call myself gay because like i would i had was cheating on my girlfriend at the time with guys and then like i would like say the words in my head i'm like are you gay and then i in my head i'm like no i'm not it doesn't sound right so therefore it's not true if i'm saying it to myself that

it's not true as i'm like like sucking dick if i'm saying that it's not true my heart we are our best own like gas lighters i'm not gay, so silly but then yeah i did the same thing where i was like i i did a soft opening with bisexual, i was like yeah dad i'm i think i'm bi because i had a girlfriend so i was confused anyway so i was like well i was still like with the girl but with the guys so i was like well technically i'm doing both so technically i

guess i am bi at this point if we're going off logistics for logistics yeah off of the history data shows data shows i'm bisexual at this point my data further went to show later in life that that was just a fluke i guess.

But yeah then i finally was like settled on gay maybe like a week and a half after i came out as well i was like fuck it yeah i'm definitely gay that's funny i'm definitely not going back to chicks what like signaled that what made that official what made it official was the acceptance that I had received. I want to say people were very open to it, and they were just kind of like... Yeah, bisexual. Because everybody already knew that I was gay from the start.

Everybody knows. They're like, oh, now you're just saying bisexual. They're like, you've still got one foot in the closet, bitch. And we know it. So yeah, I think, yeah, when I found out everybody was basically accepting of me, I was like, oh, so it is okay. So I can fully come out now. Because if the reaction was super bad, maybe I would have just been like, oh, no, I'm not actually bi. Actually, I just, that was crazy.

And I'm still with chicks. Maybe it would have been the opposite way. I don't know. So my identity, I don't know, has changed. What do you think of, so how do you personally identify? I heard you say the word queer. Is that a label you like? No, at this point, lesbian, love women, exclusively women. Yeah, I feel like at this point I identify as mask.

Maybe stud on a good day i don't know if i'm feeling i don't know it just feels a little bit too feels a little bit too hard for me and and that's the thing is that like that there is that stereotype that yeah studs are hard and that's a that's that's alarming i don't know not alarming but it's just it's it's need love too yeah yeah and there's all this like new movement called like.

Soft studs i don't know if you guys seen that on tiktok yeah yeah i don't know why it's like so divisive yes i just heard about this soft girl trend in the heterosexual world like yesterday what is now what you're saying is now sounding alarming because it's almost kind of like i heard about something about how the whole girl boss narrative is dead and how the new switch is to go into we are now soft girls oh yes the soft girl lifestyle oh yeah yeah yeah yeah like steppard wife style it's almost

kind of like branching off the trad wife with that do you know who that girl is nara or i don't know oh yeah her oh shit yeah she's tragic somebody fill me in because it seems like y'all need to live a soft girl lifestyle yeah so we were girl bossing and i think life got a little bit too hard boss too hard yes yes we girl boss too hard and now there's this thing like soft girl lifestyle where it's like. You're just kind of, you're soft. You're not, you're not, you're just not working as hard.

That's pretty much it. Okay. You're taking a backseat. Yes. You're shopping. Like you're relaxing. You're, it's just, it's literally the opposite of girl boss. You're not doing shit. Which is interesting. Cause like to have that lifestyle, you have to have girl boss enough money to afford that. So it's like, so then the implication becomes is like, oh, so are we referring back to a dependent on man lifestyle?

Which has also been part of the conversation which is why it comes back to this trad wife shit which I feel like is toxic as fuck and it's like being disguised as like some kind of like false feminism, which is like kind of sad and I'm sure that people are falling for it but now you're talking about the soft stud so now that's why I'm like what is happening, I've heard of soft tops too I know fem tops which I feel like that's me.

Oh well soft studs they're just more like they're just more girly i'd say they're more feminine they're more in touch with their feminine side so then we need to define what is a stud originally, i guess originally you could say a stud would be more masculine really perpetuating that like heteronormative ideal into a lesbian relationship i think that's how i would see a traditional stud.

Yes growing up my mom dated a lot of studs they're all very hard okay in the streets type yeah it's like you're looking at how they run in the street exactly exactly for the most part it's kind of like, you're don't fuck with yeah I wouldn't you know it's like kind of like a boy but yeah okay yeah but this soft stud it's more so like you dress like a boy but you're still in touch with your with your feminine side, you're a little bit more softer you're a girl cosplaying as a boy yes yes so

then it's like if we're perpetuating that is it almost like we're trying to de-butchify lesbians, I guess so which is like is it the same thing as trad wife where it's like go back to the old ways don't be butch because you want to be femme, or is it just femmes expressing their butchdom.

That's a lot of questions right and I think this they would probably want to do both so they probably like go back and forth with those, attributes so like those you know i'm saying like they want to be in that lifestyle of being hard but also like you can rub my back motherfucker like you know i'm saying like you can rub my feet like yeah yeah i mean when you see this this soft what is this soft stud like how do you see it like on like tiktok videos just like style wise like influencers

that are doing that or like, no i feel like it's definitely like becoming a thing within the community i would say it's more so personality wise okay yeah i would definitely say just like walter said like more i'm in the streets i'm in the streets but you could rub my back like i want flowers too type thing yes yeah Yeah. Like they want the feminine girl treatment now. Usually studs didn't really like that. It was more so like, I'm the man of the relationship.

I'm the, you know, I'm the mask of this relationship. I give you the flowers. You know, I feel like studs, common stereotype, touch me nots. They, you know, they don't want to receive, but they want to give. These soft studs, no, they want to receive now. Touch me not. Never heard that word. I know. That's exactly what you're talking about. I heard about that one before. I mean, I definitely have, I've definitely known

lesbians like that, but I had never heard like a term. Yes. Yes. Touch me not. That's funny. Oh my goodness. How fun.

Yeah. But yeah. So there's like this new wave, which. It's definitely, it's different, you know, more in the 2000s. I think there was only one way to be a mask lesbian. And it was just that one option. And now you have this like new generation who is saying that, you know, I want flowers too. Just because I dress like a boy, I still am a girl and I want that treatment. And so there was a while where there was like this divide between the older generation of mask and younger generation.

And they're just a little bit of like just kind of going back and forth and i mean at the end of the day everybody should just do what they want yeah it's really stupid but yeah yeah it's a thing.

Yeah i i don't know if lesbians are necessarily getting like deep butchified but like what's really being changed is the gender norms because how y'all describe soft top the soft studs and studs is very gender normed right and that's all just made of bullshit so i think society is definitely shifting towards like defining gender norms or like even not having gender norms just doing them you know so it's instead of like de-butchifying it it's like you're de-patriarchy decolonizing you know

that because now you can be a stud and don't have to be beholden to be this hard stud but we're still obviously in the early beginning stages because Because that's why there's still that divide of like soft stud and stud. Like it's still very hierarchical, you know? Yeah. Like we've been through this shit. Like we here. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I feel like the older generation may feel like it's taking them so long to get to that point.

To be able to be, you know, a woman comfortably dressing in male clothes. That now you have this new generation. I think they feel like we're like messing it up. Maybe just kind of taking steps back. And I don't necessarily think so. I think at this point, there's just so many new things, you know, even just this, you know, non-binary and they them pronouns.

And there's so many genders and identities and sexualities, you know, today than there was, you know, in the early 2000s. And so I just think that people are realizing that there's more.

There's more to the human experience. there's more to the human identity there's so many more ways that you can express yourself you don't have to stay in this box and yeah that's okay it's okay to do like things different, yeah explore get out there try the world yeah yeah exactly i feel like i will say i think. A place that really showed me identity, sexuality, new experiences, a queer sex party. Yes, of course.

That's going to always get you like, oh, okay. Like, oh my God, is this what we doing? Like, how cool. I think I like that too. Yeah.

Like, wow. Definitely. Like, I don't know. it's not an environment that one would you know think to go to like every not every day but just like you know it's not an everyday thing that you would think to go to a sex party but it was one experience that i had where i was like wow i'm learning so much about myself like this is cool, is this sex party and orgy different is there more like appetizers well i think orgy is,

just basically the same well because a sex party is like there's a vibe an orgy you're just fucking so like the, sex party is a vibe like you have the lights or the music or the aroma like whatever it may be to set off a vibe lights and curated experience right exactly something that you ain't gonna never forget I guess you ain't gonna forget an orgy either but you know I feel like you can have an orgy at a sex party there you go yeah But I feel like a sex party, it's like...

It's just an event where people are having sex. You can have an orgy or you can have like two people sex. A little intimate one-on-one. Yeah. You know, bukkake. Yeah. No, I was like, I don't know. You got options. Sky's your limit. A freak off, if you will. Well. Just kidding. Not too much. It is not a freak off. We keep it actually in 2024. Did the orgy I have help shape my identity? I mean, I think about it a lot still. Oh, see.

At least it stuck with you I invited my fiance to this orgy before we were even together and he didn't come because he was like no you can have you can go to that, now was it a sex party or an orgy memory though it was definitely like a smaller hotel room on Hollywood Boulevard so that's an orgy, a sex party is you know you got levels to this shit Did you know the people? I knew the guy who got at the hotel room. And one other guest. How many guests? I don't remember. There was a lot of alcohol.

But it was kind of like people were just coming in and out. Two guys came and they checked the scene and they were like. I was like, that's funny. They said, oh shit, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong. Not today. Yeah, I ended up getting really jealous because. I don't know. What just happened? It's an orgy, as you should. I think that's a part of it. It's absolutely a part of an orgy. She was invited. Yeah. What were we talking about? Identity. Yes, yes, yes. Mm-hmm.

What else about identity? I feel one thing that I hear a lot is like millennials, our generation started. Well, you're not a millennial. But we started kind of the boxes, right? Like the alphabet army mafia like definitely grew under our guise and care, you know. So I knew like older generations struggled with like understanding like non-binary and poly and pan and all that.

I don't know what do y'all think about the number of categories we've built for ourselves to describe ourselves i think that it's almost kind of a lie that we have all these quote-unquote new genders.

Because i feel like it's the you have transgender people and you have intersex and non-binary people and intersex people and it's like i feel like when i was growing up which was the late 80s early 90s when i was a little young baby that i had already heard of intersex people on tv and it was like yeah it was it was an encyclopedia it wasn't in nice terms they called them hermaphrodites oh yeah or they called them transvestites but the concept was not actually foreign right and we

did have gen we did have gender neutral people too and they just called them it's pat remember oh yeah from snl and it was just kind of like they just called it they didn't really call them anything like you know what i mean they referred to the them as the derogatory it you know i mean so to say that the concepts were not there is kind of untrue right we just did not have politically correct terms and i feel like when i

was growing up even in i mean i had the i was different and I had the internet in middle school, which at the time was like not.

In everyone's home but i did i was seeing terms like z and zero and and i yeah the concept was there so it was like for them to be saying like there's all these new labels i feel like the those labels were always kind of yes kind of on the fringe of like things to know about but they still kind of always are because we're just like a such a small population yeah yeah but yeah i mean it was always there there was always the concepts were always there and yeah even like

we all know about fucking two-spirit and we even knew about that in we they even taught us about that in school in our public school that didn't teach shit so they was gonna teach us about two-spirit i think it's just dumb ass fucking rednecks just saying stupid fucking shit because they are dumb and they don't want to fucking learn anything so of course it's everything's new to you you know you world's round, bitch. Wake up. Come on, that's my turn.

That was funny. But one thing I did want to say, though, like, the media does play a lot with how we view identities and, like, these subcultures that is coming out. So, yeah. But, like, no. Because some of the young artists that is coming out, like, one, they're being able to walk in their queerness or work through their sexuality and work through, like, their looks and their vibes. And, you know, they're able to be themselves and be in a safe space to do so.

When we was growing up, when I was growing up, you didn't have that. You didn't know that. So like older individuals may look and be like, oh, that's some crazy shit. That's like when we was growing up doing it, our parents were saying, y'all doing some crazy shit. So it's just like, it's like a circle, but it feels like now some of these youngins is teaching the older ones how to move and walk within their queerness and being able to be open to new and different adventures. Taps.

Right. Yeah, I feel like that's kind of like going back to the idea of like, how does language help shape our identity? Like how I was saying we had these concepts before, the derogatory ones, right? But we didn't have the labels that we had given ourselves. And so, yeah, I guess the language is important. And like you said, we do have to build up over time. Like now we have...

Quote unquote now we have like terms like they them which we now will apply to either transgender people or gender non-conforming people or anybody who wants to you know what i'm saying and so now that we have that yeah then we have something now right and you can build on that and and when people kind of do this thing where they want to say like oh they're all just like getting on a trend and And like all these people are just, you know, following like whatever.

And it's like, even if it is true that like I copied, like I'm trans and I copied Gigi Gorgeous. Like, so the fuck what? Y'all are straight and y'all copy every dumb bitch you see on TV. How many fucking Britney Spears fucking remakes have we seen? Even there's a thousand white blonde bitches singing pop. And I'm just saying like Like we To have these like media representations And for us to then See them and copy them I don't think Is.

Should be like mocked or shamed It's kind of like we can have Our archetypes too So those things Yeah they go into shaping Identity because yeah when you watch Cause that's all we have anymore Is TV and the three Screens and so you have to get your personality from somewhere and i feel like i don't know what do you know about personality because i've heard that personality is literally just you are copying shit that you like and you're

just doing it yeah i want to be what i like yeah so i mean like for like i guess like straight cis people to like act like they have something that's more intrinsic, like their value is worth more because their identity is like set in stone because they're straight and cis. I don't know where I'm going with this, but somebody take it away from me. But no, I think I understand what you're saying that basically they are living a life that they also seen their, their father or their mother live.

It was like, Oh, I'm going to do that too. Like, I'm just going to follow off. I feel like this generation is breaking off cycles. Like, they're like, I'm breaking off, like, I'm doing my own thing. Because you'll see now, like, there's a lot of, I don't know this to be factual or true. Here's your observation. But I'm seeing so much gay culture and mainstream or, like, around a lot of straight dudes.

And I feel like because some of these straight dudes are now allowing themselves to be friends with gay dudes where nothing is going off and on with each other, but they're just fucking vibing. And then like they are cool enough to exchange that information like there shouldn't be no reason why straight dudes should know what sniffies is yeah right unless you're using it, I mean. Or, and if, you have a friend that's telling you about it. You know what I'm saying?

So, like, a lot of people are allowing themselves to break off that curse because back in the day, a motherfucker would be like, I'm not, don't tell me no shit like that. Yeah. I'd be like, now we can't be homies. Like, fuck out of here. So, I feel like that's, like, how the identities are changing.

But the older community is also allowing themselves to work through it. Mm-hmm. Some of them are. well since you're part of the older community wow show's over.

Glad you can speak on that, no I've been a trendsetter social I don't know what you're talking about but no like this I think this is how it goes but like I feel like it's going to be so many different identities and subcultures to come so it's just like and then like you know what fuck it if that makes a person I'd rather have a person, happy and come up with any subcultural identity or feeling that they want to suggest that you reach out to them then be miserable with your first fucking

name you know what i'm saying like i'd rather you be happy the happier people are, the better the better like i'm like eh you come up to me and say hey my name is rabbit, and you eat a carrot i was like nice to meet you rabbit i'm gonna call you rabbit you know what i'm saying like hey shit as long as rabbit is nice, yeah yeah i don't know i got excited about that but yeah.

But no i i agree i feel like lately like i don't know i feel like since 2022 when you know identities kind of really started to come out in our face you know so alarming for my mom and we have had so many conversations of just like okay girly we can't say that you know no that's not not that girl and mind you this is my mom who would like take me to pride you know i always grew up with two moms in my house you know so growing up

I'm thinking like this is the most progressive bitch in the world like yeah you know right I'm talking you know 2008 I had two moms I've never I didn't grow up seeing that in right like amongst my friends and so I'm like yeah no she's she's forward thinking but then you know at a certain point I don't know I don't know what happens I don't know what happens when you get older maybe you just kind of close your mind off I don't know.

But I really had to force my mom to like open up her thinking and be like, no, girl, like, that's not OK. And even my mom's journey, like growing up, my mom always dated women. Next thing you know, I graduate high school. She's dating men now. And I'm like, girl, what the fuck going on? This is weird as hell. Like I've never seen this before.

Very hard for me to process. like it was it was so weird I've always seen my mom with a woman and she's just like and I'm like so what are you bi and she's like no I'm like so what does this mean what does this mean for us like she couldn't she could never put a label on it and she didn't really have to you know right but it's like I think even for herself like because she was just so closed off and she, grew up in a way where you know biphobia was such a strong prevalent thing you know

she herself couldn't even really say like oh well i guess i'm queer i'm bi i'm this whatever you know she wanted to be she'd just be like girl it's nobody business and i'd be like okay girl you're not wrong all right am i my business as i should but it's just like i wonder if you know where she would be, how she would be, I don't know, if she always kind of had like an open way of thinking about. And yeah, even just the whole they them thing. My mom's like,

wait, so how do you say it? And I'm like, girl, you know how to speak English. Girl, you know how to speak English. So piss me off. That is funny. We be beefing so bad. So are you saying that she reverted back to heterosexuality? Yes. Like as like a, like I have to go back to this way of living because that's just the way life is.

I don't know. she never really explained it you know i i don't know i maybe it was trying something new maybe she saw a man that she really liked because at the time she like introduced a boyfriend and i was like what i mean were they vibing together they were vibing they was cool he was like he really had that like tall dark and handsome type vibe going on like morris chestnut type vibe nice he was like in a motorcycle oh that's a little bear boy yeah

right right right like it gave it gave But it was definitely confusing. And for years, she dated dudes. And then, next thing you know, last year, she's like, yeah, I'm getting back together with my ex-girlfriend. And now my mom lives in Vegas with her ex-girlfriend. My mom's really chaotic, though. What's your mom's sign? She's a Virgo. That sounds just about her. Yeah. She just, she likes her fun. That's what life should be about, she is. Sure.

Without harming people yes yes yes yeah but even her journey I'm just like girl this is definitely she is 51 52 oh okay so you should be acting like this but also you should and should be acting like this makes you happy yeah it's been a long journey for you babe but it's okay cause 52 ain't your the 1940s 52 no more at least even the 80s because in 52 motherfuckers was like, They out here moving and shaking. I was about to say we. Nah, no, we not.

Yeah. So it's interesting. It's interesting to grow up in such a progressive way, but still have a close-minded mom and still have to change her mind, open her mind. And even herself going on having such a journey with her queerness, still having a teacher. Yeah.

But I never let up. That's the thing. That's true. yeah that's good mm-hmm i press her all the time i'd be like that's nothing try again, try again and you know what's so crazy is i always have to tell my mom like what's fake news oh she'll always send me something like she'll be like mama you know there was this there was a transgender and they were doing this and i'm like mom fake news that's that's like that's like outrage like that's the you know it's not real

it's not i have to tell her about like no mom that's AI like they're manipulating images like they're showing you a picture like yeah you see that's 12 extra fingers like no like for real and I'm literally having to tell her like no like there's like there's things that people are doing now to like create outrage to create you know these stupid ass debates and stupid ass discussions and trying to rile people up like you need to ignore it all the time I'm having

to tell her like just block that shit so So, yeah. Showing her the way. Showing her the way. One step at a time. I'm tired, child. Yeah. Identity. Not identity. Is it true about that they say that your personality is fixed at 25 or some shit? Have you heard this? No. I've heard like online people. I've heard your brain is fully developed when you're 25.

From what i know of personality is it shifts and changes over time too so like there's this assessment that you can take called like the myers brick and it's a personality test it gives you the you know that people have their eye in is like introvert extrovert oh yeah like yeah that so that that gives you those results and i was told that you could take it every few years and it will shift and change over over time i can see that because you have experiences and some people make you

want to be more introverted maybe or less open less understanding but like how many personality changes is too much where it's like okay baby you have a you got it depends about the time frame how many are in there yeah yeah like oh yeah i think it's the time frame like how how many changes can you go through asking for me, i think i think i've used mine up honestly the sweaties have been long. So, what? Oh, I'm sorry. I'm just very.

Yeah, I think you chugged that. That wasn't a chug. That was a slow drip. I'm trying to see what else about identity or like labels that we can discuss. Because I know like the media is the main one. For me, it's just, it's ugh. Do you think that's true that there's a million bajillion new genders and labels? What do you think when you hear that? I feel like that's bullshit, right? Well, I think if you're queer, you probably knew a lot of them, right?

But I think that if you're straight and you get all these letters and names, it's a lot. It's going to be brand new for them. But even the queer community struggles with it. Like, queer community push back against they, them pronouns, right? And you hear queers talking shit about a bunch of identities, right? I'm not talking shit, but they're like, another one, another one, you know? I mean, they've been saying that after they started adding on after the tea.

Right, yeah, exactly. They're like, we're fine with four. Right. Yeah, I keep hearing the same rhetoric that people are alleging that they all of a sudden heard about all these new pronouns after the pandemic started because people were bored in their homes. No. It's like, no, you were bored in your home when you read about it because you finally, I don't know, learned how to read it.

You got time to fucking say some bullshit about it. reach the educational part of the internet right you run the gamut on your fucking tiger, king or what the fuck is it but i think that's what happens like i think sometimes the older generations struggle because they lose connection with the younger generation i think and i think ageism plays a lot into that because older elders get pushed out you know if you don't have connection to the younger generation you're not going to know

the up and up yeah i feel like elder gays that I knew were down with like. Making trans the butt of the joke. And I'm just like, sis, you're in the same boat. Shut the fuck up. I know, it's very common. Yeah. I don't like that. Yeah. I'm like, grow up. Just learn something. Right? They're so strict. I know. Very strict. Right? Older gays. They are. Older queers. They're so strict. Older queers are. They are strict.

Yeah. I feel like the older gays, shout out to my uncles, but i'm gonna just call y'all bitches out but they are strict on like how gays act yeah and they're like you're gay so you should be doing like this and i'm like no sis i'm gonna be my own game you're not gaying right you're not being enough of a slut.

Which nobody ever is i mean the slut free movement oh no okay oh conservative are you great banning porn are you it's about to be banned so unfortunately so do you have like any tips or like anything that will help the younger generation that's after you in regards to like because if they say we're going to get more subcultures and more identities and things of that nature how can they maneuver through that process as i know your journey wasn't easy but like as

smooth as yours did i would say just be open-minded you know you don't ever have to.

Put yourself into any box if you feel like you know one day you're this and the next day you're that fuck it you know who cares nobody's gonna beat your ass for it that's what i found in life nobody's gonna fight you and that's so crazy you know and so yeah i would just say be open-minded keep being queer spaces i think that definitely helps to just see other people you know live freely being queer freely how it just looks

it's so so amazing and just you know having queer friends and yeah yeah and i would say also connect with you know the older generation find a safe person who's older who has you know gone through things who can share their experiences Yeah. Nice. I also, damn, you had said something, because I wasn't like...

Lost it yes i would say the same about like being in queer spaces definitely just being able to be in queer spaces so you have the opportunity to be free and actually let your true identity flourish itself and if you're struggling with your identity just know it's all fake and you can just copy a bunch of people on tv and be whoever you want literally you fake it till you make it but like how you were saying about like the ultra mask lesbians and how you were like i that's

not really me and like that's like i can't really identify with that i feel like, i feel like even they and all the men that i've ever met in my life like the most butch masculine cis men like no matter who you are it's all an act and like how rupaul says it's like it's all drag and how much people are like i'm a toffee is like it's all it's all an aesthetic right and it's all a show and so even they i don't even know if they feel that that's

who they are you know they're just like they just look like that and they just put on a persona. But maybe i don't know how much of a persona is us and how much of is like, I don't know. How much am I like, is my affectition my reality? Like how much am I putting on is me? How much is all the show? I think we all put on, we all performative. Like in every walk of life, we have to like put a show on for someone. We should be putting the show on for ourselves. One man show. One man only fans.

You still get paid for solo work. Oh this is what I was gonna say it came back to me when you was talking so my apologies, so with that being said in regards of like when you was going back and forth with nope, masculinity right oh masculinity nope that wasn't it you know what, y'all this is write it down next time I'm gonna write it down next time because I lost it twice lost it twice, that's up St. Ives brain wipe oh my god alright but is there any other identities

or anything that you guys want to discuss on this topic this evening, i don't think so all right well i think we're gonna go ahead and call it the show but i don't know if you want to go ahead and close out.

You don't know how to after all these years that's your role that's your job okay any more identity thoughts any other thoughts about anything else any local news dalen anything you want to promote, anything you want to say, shoutouts, nothing i don't have anything to promote um she's real yes i'm not here for the dollar y'all i really don't have much going on just a girl.

I just want to shout you guys out this is such a great thing and i had a lot of fun and you guys should invite me back thank you we'd love to have you back yeah most of the well then anything anything else any last words what are you watching any good tv shows any like lesbian stuff you should no wait no no lesbian stuff but there's this show on peacock if you have peacock it's called found it's really good it's about this woman who was like kidnapped kidnapped as a kid eventually she

like flees herself whatever she finds her kidnapper as an adult she kidnap kidnaps him holds him hostage and like now her entire job is to find people who have been kidnapped and like nobody gives him like the media attention so black and brown children transgender community undocumented she like goes out and finds them and every single time she gets a case she goes down into her basement to her little captive and she's like

solve the case for me it's really good that's wild check it out anybody have peacocking let me get your login. Does it work that way Real Housewives of Potomac oh my god that was the only one that I liked, but I have not kept up with the recent events but I did hear that Karen is a hot god damn mess oh my gosh drug driving she was such a cock, you deserve your downfall bitch the grand dong they hit her with like seven chargers damn Have you guys seen like the drunk driving?

I've seen like stuff on social media, but I haven't. She was sauced. They said that her wig was twisted see my theory was that wig was already twisted before the accident, that wig didn't twist in the accident it was pretty twisted I think her wig was already twisted I literally had a whole discussion with my mama they don't twist themselves, I feel like she was drunk she was patting like this and that wig was already twisted before that accident who was your favorite one character.

I liked robin but that was like the first season and then i think that everyone ended up saying she sucked afterwards i mean she was kind of boring she was boring i think it's gonna have to be karen because she has the best drama you know she had that like tax thing with her husband like she really brings the drama she's old as fuck but she brings the drama and i like it I like a messy queen. And that's what she is, the grand dame. The grand dame.

Who else was there? Is that one girl with her gay husband? Was he ever gay? Ashley. Yeah. Yeah, no. He did a lot of gay things, but he never said he was gay. Maybe he was. Are they still together? No. The worst. She took his money. Oh, you haven't seen it in a while then. Yeah, I think only saw the first and like half of the second season, maybe.

I think she hit her time. like I want to say it was like 10 years of marriage where she got like a shit ton of money and I think she like hit whatever that time frame was and got that money wow cool girl and got some new titties too, wow yeah there you go that's a hot class yep, The 10-year-old gossip. I heard it here first. Probably wouldn't be recognizing. Well, all right then. I think that was a good one. I'd like to say again a very special thanks to our very special guest, Daylin.

I'd also like to thank myself, Nino, Dr. Mikey, and Kristoff from all of us here at the Queer LBC. You're good enough. You're smart enough. And doggone it, people like you. Good night. Good night. Good night. Good night. Y'all will be see you. Yeah, this weed drink. Oh, my God. This is a quick, non-paid oversight. Tight, tight. Okay. Cut. Y'all need more Teletubbies in your life. Some more joy. Thank you. We'll see you next time. Thank you.