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Our show includes graphic references to topics such as sexual abuse, self-harm, violence, eating disorders, explicit language, and sexual acts. Listener discretion is advised. This show is for mature audiences only. Good morning and welcome back to another episode of the Queer LBC Podcast. I'm your host, Nino. My pronouns are he, him. thank you for asking. I have with me here my fabulous cohorts. Yo it's me Christophe your city top liaison. My pronouns are he him and dad motherfucker.
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¶ Today’s Political Landscape
Today in homophobia, after Trump wins on campaign rife with anti-trans ads, LGBTQ plus people flood crisis hotlines. Also in homophobia, 12 college students charged with hate crimes after targeted assault of a gay man on Grindr.
Also in homophobia, Trump expected to appoint anti-LGBTQ plus white nationalist Stephen Miller to deputy chief of staff for policy uh today in what the fuck authorities work to find out the source of racist texts sent to black people nationwide after the election uh today in yas lgbtq plus candidates saw big election wins with several historic victories also in yas lgbtq plus ally Ruben Gallego beats far right Kari Lake for U.S. Senate in Arizona.
Do any of you Queens know about any of these things? So the one about the mayor, I read about it vaguely earlier today, but basically a small city in rural Minnesota made history in last week's election, but it also has many people scratching their heads.
Pine City is located in east central part of the state, about an hour outside of twin cities the quiet rural community which is home roughly to 3 700 people voted overwhelmingly for donald trump with 62 casting their ballots for the 78 year old 34 time convicted felon but when it comes to picking excuse me local leadership voters swung in the complete opposite direction and elected the city's first out gay mayor, Kent Bombard, who was initially appointed to the position back in July when
the previous mayor stepped down, was formally elected after receiving nearly 50 percent of the vote and beaten out not one, not two, but three different challenges. This has been this has been my hometown my entire life. So it's awesome to be able to feel like I can still fit in. He told local media after his victory and I could still belong and that I'm not a weird outliner in my hometown or in my community.
Bombard lives with his husband Aaron and runs a tech consulting company He's one of just two current out gay mayors among the state's 854 cities. He says pine city is a lot more open-minded than many people might assume despite voters that That that were voted for trump The city is home to the first real gay pride celebration in minnesota Which is hosted every year since 2005 and which has grown year after year in 2004 u.s senator tina smith even dropped by to join the festivities.
Bombard told local media that the people in his community might not agree on everything but they still know how to get along and find commonality it doesn't get brought up very frequently but it's just kind of everybody's stay in their own lane and kind of does their own thing and we and we all work together will well and they find a way that's what he explained but pine city election fits a larger theme in the 2024 election in which ticketed splitted voters cast ballots for
candidates in different parties all across the county so people who support both trump and me are voted trump slash damn tell us why but anyway it goes they elected their first gay mayor but i also feel like there's gay for trump too so that really shows you that sometimes like Like, he didn't say if he voted for Trump or not. You know what I'm saying? But they saying that the city itself voted for their first gay mayor as well as Trump. So I'm like, hmm.
¶ A Small Town’s Surprising Mayor
Like, either y'all aren't reading, like, his Project 2025. Right. But who's not to say that those two gay, well, I don't know how many gay people is in his town, but it's only 3,700 motherfuckers. Yeah, there's only so many. Right. You know what I'm saying? So, but him and his husband may have well voted for a, Trump as well. Kamala. Oh, Kamala. But the city as a whole voted for Trump. Yeah. And that as a whole, the percentage was like 58% of the residents.
So, yeah, pretty much everybody. So, I guess the other 42% is gay or bad. I mean, then maybe the Republicans are like telling the truth when they're like, I don't hate gay people. I'm voting for Trump. Like, what? Like, I mean, yeah, it does like, I don't know. Maybe that's true. Right.
Yeah even though they're still like doing all this shit because it's another thing that like i keep like asking myself is like how much are like these like people telling the truth when they tell you like oh like like when i have conversations with these kinds of people and i'm like oh you don't know about like all these things he does like against like gay people and like trans people and they're always just like claiming that they don't know about that and i'm like
well how much is that are you like lying to me that you don't know about it and how much you actually don't know about it well it's crazy because people so people like us i'm not gonna say focus we we focus on the things that he have done to us badly now the people that are voting for him the gay people that are voting for him they focus on the good that he has done for like oh like he done this in 2004 or this that or he appointed the
first gay this like but yeah that's one motherfucker you know i'm saying but he has done so much against a whole community.
But the people on the gays for trump is focusing on one good thing that he has done versus us we look at the things that he's done to a community as a whole because i also have a republican cousin and she's all and she's like i don't hate you and i don't hate gay people i'm voting for trump because of blah blah blah blah blah blah and i'm like well i don't know maybe those people yeah i mean they exist i guess yeah and they voted for that gay mayor even though they're voting
for trump yeah yeah it's weird yeah well i think that's a really common thing that i'm seeing in the news right now is that there's a lot of discrepancy between who people voted for for president and like their other votes so they're noticing that a lot of people who voted for trump the states that were red still got a democratic governor and then i'm seeing like aoc did like this it was in this article where she was posting her question because she asked why
do people vote for trump and me because she's noticing like i guess a lot of people in her district went and voted trump and voted for her and so she asked people and in the and the answers people were saying that trump was focusing on the economy that kamala didn't hear care about the working class people that she was focusing on rights rather than the economy so i think like those these people are voting on these single...
¶ LGBTQ+ Election Victories
These single issues like economy and i feel like people think trump is really good with money and finances in the economy even though he's been bankrupt like i don't know how many times yeah which fascinates me but i feel like that really speaks to the fact that like kamala harris wasn't a good pick for a democratic presidential candidate because she makes missed the mark on all of these things that people say they care about i don't know
i mean yeah she also had to get out there and get straight to work because she didn't really have that much time more than you know to push her policies slash agenda per se that was the democrats fault like oh yeah oh yeah it was most definitely they fault you have weekend that because if it was me i'm like you know what nope y'all that's what the fuck y'all get wasn't it like somewhat of a close race in those swing states for what this for yeah for kamala versus trump yeah because it's like.
Was we were really like are we really that much of a divide is it really like that dire because there really were a lot of people who did vote for her yeah right because a lot of people trump was in everybody's ears since day one like she came in so late in the game that you know people was still listening to motherfucking president biden still in motherfucking july i don't know it was just weird it was just kind of like set up right like did
we even get a vote for her for the primary did we no because it was too late it was just like it was too late right they just installed her right so that's just like yeah it was it was very yeah yeah but you know you know it is what it is and just like how you say you know i it's almost like if your boss gives you a fucking promotion but they know they giving you some shit that like why you just giving me a promotion now because we got this audit or we got this
something coming up that you need done now i gotta fucking try to bust my ass to motherfucking make this happen fuck you i mean as if she's not currently the president right now i mean acting like joe is aware in a wheelchair somewhere in front of a fucking TV in front of a hot fire with a nice blanket on his lap.
Yeah but yeah I thought that was quite interesting mm-hmm, but on that same note from nbcnews.com lgbtq candidates saw big election wins with several historic victories by sarah prager more than 1 000 lesbian gay bisexual and transgender candidates ran for elected office this year does that mean a thousand lesbians a thousand gays a thousand bisexuals no no that means one thousand people lgbt total nice anyways vying for
seeing congress state legislatures and various local races across nearly every state while a number of these races have yet to be called hundreds of queer candidates have already emerged victorious as of friday including many who made history at least 1017 out lgbtq candidates ran for election this year, a 1.1% increase compared with 2020, according to the LGBTQ Plus Victory Fund, a political organization that tracks and supports LGBTQ candidates for elected office.
Of the total number of LGBTQ candidates, 668 made it to the general election. Over 90% of the total number of candidates were Democrats, and they ran in every state except Nebraska, seeing wins of at least 40 states, along with Puerto Rico and Washington, D.C., the organization found. This year's LGBTQ candidate pool was also more diverse than ever, with 37.6% of candidates being LGBTQ people of color and 15.2% not cisgender.
The LGBTQ Plus Victory Fund endorsed and tracked 477 of the LGBTQ candidates who made it to the general election. As of Friday afternoon, about three quarters of those races had been called, with LGBTQ candidates being a success rate of approximately 80%. What does this even mean? Okay. Three of the winning House candidates were historic firsts for Congress. Delaware's Sarah McBride became the first out transgender person elected.
Texas' Julie Johnson became the first out LGBTQ plus person from the South elected, and Washington's Emily Randall became the first out queer Latina elected. Tammy Baldwin, who in 2013 became the first out gay person to serve in Senate, won a tough re-election fight in Wisconsin and will be the lone LGBTQ plus senator in January. With Kristen Sinema of Arizona and Lafonza Butler of California not seeking re-election.
LGBTQ plus candidates won elections to at least 37 state legislatures this year, according to the LGBTQ plus Victory Fund. And several were historic first. Three state legislatures, those Hawaii, Iowa, and Missouri, will welcome their first out trans member with Kim Koko Aiwamoto, Amy Winch...
Which 10 doll amy which 10 doll and wick thomas respectively iwamoda and thomas are the first out trans people elected to any statewide office in their states rush rashawn kemp will be the first out gay black man in georgia legislature and ahmad rivera wagner will be the first out black LGBTQ plus member of the Wisconsin State Assembly. Molly Cook, the Texas Senate's first out LGBTQ member who assumed office in May, won her election to continue serving as well.
At least a dozen LGBTQ plus judges will also be sent to the bench, adding representation for coming years when many laws targeting transgender people could come before the courts. Well, isn't that special? That's amazing. That's definitely what we need to be doing. We need to make sure that we're putting people in politics and government to protect us. That is true. But also, you know, I am always known to throw a wrench.
¶ The Importance of Allies
But just like how we got gays for Trump. Like, we don't know if they're going to be for us. That's because they were voted in. That's true. We still don't technically know if their stance and their mindset is going to be for us. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, don't vote for people just because they're queer. Queer. Right. Like, know their stances. Yeah. Exactly. Buttigieg. Oh, yeah. I like Buttigieg. I would never vote for Buttigieg.
But yeah, so that's so I have faith and I'm glad that they were able to win those elections within their districts and their counties and legislature. But until we actually see the work that they put in, I'm going to have to just be a little bit skeptical. Unfortunately, I mean, I don't really touch. I really don't like follow the other states business any damn way. Right. No, but more. I feel like I just don't trust politicians in general anymore. I'm just feel very cheated by them.
Yeah, which, yeah, that's totally understandable. We need to get back into, like, civil servants.
¶ Representation in Politics
You know what I'm saying? Like, fuck these politicians. I almost like, they don't care about the loot. Yeah, you shouldn't be a career politician. Work in the marriage license office, gays. There are currently at least 1,273 out LGBTQ plus elected officials across the U.S., But that comprises just 0.24% of all elected officials. According to the LGBTQ Plus Victory Institute, with LGBTQ plus people, an estimated 7.6% of the adult U.S.
Population, according to the latest Gallup survey, that percentage is disproportionately low. Still steadily growing grassroots representation continues to trend of the number of out LGBTQ plus elected officials growing every year that representation according to Malloy who the fuck is Malloy somebody blah blah blah great. But yeah I I agree with that we do need to have more, queer LGBTQ plus individuals in politics, but we also got to have the right ones in there. Let's run. Not me.
Not me. Yeah. But I also think it's having, you can't just have like one queer voice in there, right? That's true. I think was in Nebraska or some like Midwest state. Not you calling it Midwest.
¶ The Effects of Hate Crimes
How dare you, sir? The Freudian slip. One midwest state where there was a trans representative who was speaking out against the anti-trans laws and she was literally the only one speaking out against it so it's like yeah we can vote lgbtq plus people in but like one isn't enough like we need to like flood in support too right because if they fight by themselves yeah nothing yeah and especially if all their constituents are just homophobes anyways.
Like who are they fighting for? Not their constituents if the people believe. So yeah. Be aware who you're voting for. But in similar news, you hear about the LGBTQ plus ally Ruben Gallego beats far right Carrie Lake for US Senate in Arizona. I did not. So Democratic Congressman Ruben Gallego has defeated anti-LGBTQ plus Republican and Trump ally Carrie Lake for U.S. Senate in Arizona. Gallego replaces former Democrat and current independent Kristen Sinema and
will be the state's first Latinx U.S. Senator. Although President-elect Donald Trump won the election this year, the Associated Press reports that Arizona voters have rejected Trump endorsed candidates in every election since 2016. Lake, a former television news anchor, gained attention on the right with her unsuccessful Trump-endorsed campaign for state governor in 2022, during which she aired an ad featuring homophobic pastor Justin Erickson.
At the time, Lake faced controversy for promoting the false narrative that Trump won the 2020 presidential election and refusing to concede after her 2022 loss to Democratic candidate Katie Hobbs. So Gallego ultimately beat out Lake with 50% of the votes versus her 48%. With his win, Democrats now hold 47 Senate seats to Republicans' 53-seat majority. The son of Colombian and Mexican immigrants, he attended Harvard University
and enlisted in the Marine Corps and was deployed to Iraq from 2002-2006. He served in U.S. Representatives of Arizona's 3rd Congressional District in the House of Representatives since 2015. Now, according to GLAAD, he has consistently supported the LGBTQ plus community throughout his political career.
As a member of Arizona's state house in 2014, he helped lead opposition to the expansion of Arizona's Religious Freedom Restoration Act, which would have given residents broad license to discriminate against the LGBTQ plus community. He co-sponsored the Equality Act as a member of the House and in 2003, he voted against the nefariously named Protection of Women and Girls in Sports Act which would make it illegal for public schools to permit trans girls to play on women's sports teams.
See, now that's an ally. Yeah. See, we need allies. Like that he's been fighting for this shit since 2004 so that's good got an ally go you arizona.
You're trying but again that speaks to the the fact that there's a discrepancy between people voting for trump and not like his people or other republicans right because what they say they like they voted for trump since i mean it was republican yeah since 2016 right that's like two elections that's wild i mean when you're straight and white i guess you can just vote however you i mean feel yeah on based on vibes right you know vote to thrive kamala
so i don't feel like voting for her right now let's go vote for trump i guess and like it doesn't like hold any weight on their like soul yeah in any way oh no it's they're not they not losing any sleep any sleep any sleep but y'all hear about what's crazy.
And like i like this irks my soul it's gonna irk my soul so 12 college students charged with hate crimes after targeted assault of a gay man on grinder grinder so maryland police have arrested 12 salisbury university students who allegedly used grinder to target and assault a gay man because of his sexuality in October. According to a press release from the Salisbury Police Department, the assault reportedly occurred in an off-campus apartment complex for college students.
Local outlet WBOC reports that based on charging documents, the victim was contacted on Grindr by an individual who police later identified as 18-year-old Zachary Lenneman, claiming to be 16 years old, which is the age of sexual consent in Maryland.
Wboc says that per the police liniment then lured the victim to the off-campus apartment complex on october 15th under the pretense of sex the victim told police that upon arrival he was ambushed by about 15 men and was forced to sit on a chair in the middle of the room while they kicked punch and spit on him for several minutes while calling him derogatory names, CBS News reports that a video of the assault shows one of the suspects hitting the victim with the cookie sheet.
Why are you getting up? Make one more move and I swear I'm going to punch the shit out of you, bro.
¶ The Reality of Online Dating
One of the suspects yelled in the video, get back, lay down, lay down, lay down, or I'm going to punch the fuck out of you. Although the victim allegedly attempted to leave multiple times, he was thrown to the floor and warned by his attackers to tell no one what had happened.
After seeking medical attention the victim discovered that he had a broken rib and sustained bruising all over his body as a result of the assault according to the salisbury police department seven of the 12 individuals are associated with the salisbury university chapter of the fraternity sigma alpha epsilon fuck you fuckers the students have been identified as 20 year old ryder baker 18 year old ben and ard 20 year old riley Brister, 19-year-old Cruz Cepedes, 20-year-old Daylon Earp,
19-year-old Elijah Johnson, and 18-year-old Zachary Lineman. Police identify the other five individuals involved as 18-year-old Cameron Guy, 19-year-old Jacob Howard, 21-year-old Eric Sinclair, 19-year-old Patrick Gutierrez, and 20-year-old Dalen Patisky. Patisky? It don't matter. It don't fucking matter. The suspects have been charged with assault, false imprisonment, recklessness, endangerment, and the associated hate crime charge.
Now in this in a statement posted by south salisbury university x account the school announced that the 12 students as well as sigma alpha esplanon has been placed on suspension meanwhile sigma alpha esplanon has expelled its members who were allegedly involved in the attack per cbs news in a separate statement salisbury university president dr caroline r la prey could damn the students attack writing acts of violence towards lgbtq plus and allied communities are not only destructive but at
odds with the principle and community respect and belonging that binds us together as a university the investigation into this crime is ongoing anyone with additional information about the incident or similar incidents is asked to contact the southberry police department at 410-548-3165 information can also be provided anonymously through crime solvers at 410-548-1776. Now, I hope he sues the shit out of Gronda because there has to be some way. I know they have disclaimers and shit, right?
¶ Understanding Chosen Family
But also, don't you have like, as a result of like motherfuckers, if you got motherfuckers who got accounts and sending all these messages and not really, you know, like somebody had to report this. This could have just been a one-on thing. What it could have been because they got caught. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? But it's also like Grindr has to be responsible in some fucking form or fashion. And I thought you had to be 18.
Well, I guess that's... How old you got to be to have an app? Like 21. I don't... Well, I guess it depends on that state. Well, it was a sexual... Sexual consent in that state was 16. But to be on an app, don't you have to be 18 and older? Yeah.
Because I think that's the federal... the federal i think legal consents frame in each of that's motherfucking wild yo and i hope all 12 new motherfuckers find the back of a fucking jail jail cell and get the same fucking treatment, that's fucking insane especially after we're just talking about grinder killers right exactly.
And those bitch ass motherfuckers are probably closer to homosexuals, but then he also like makes everybody else like at odds with like hookup apps and like puts that out there it's like that's not oh yeah you're ruining our fun straights i know we're not going and slapping like pussy out of your mouth right maybe we should get on straight apps and like honeypot straight men like how how insane does that sound when you put it the other way yeah Like,
if I'm a gay man and I go, like, with a bunch of gay men to honeypot a straight man and then invite him to my fucking place and then beat the shit out of him, what the fuck? Yeah, it makes, yeah. I mean, the straights do that to straights anyway. But then when they do it over here, it's like, oh, yeah, it's normal. Yeah. Right. Sounds like something they do. How insane. That was wild, yo. And then that fraternity, like, hopefully, like, that has to be fucking.
It's probably just, like, in that fraternity, like, always, like, a whole bunch of homophobia.
They probably on fucking frat x like what the fuck like you know what i mean like come on now i wonder if like that was like a their prank or something like their initiation like their initiation but but then shut that well they on suspension so i'm quite sure these motherfuckers be back in fucking two years or january 6th so like what the fuck yeah what's a fucking suspicion of a chapter close that motherfucker down then because it's coming from somewhere don't know but yeah
that boiled my fucking blood yeah i also wonder why they chose to disguise themselves as a 16 year old because i feel like i'm seeing like videos pop up of people luring predators and making like tiktoks off of them and like confronting them or even like being physical violent for them so i'm wondering like yes obviously we can't take a way that they targeted a gay person and a gay app, you know, but be also wondering if they were also trying to like catch pedophiles, you know?
But, oh my God. But yes, true. But in that state, 16 is the age of consent and the motherfucker was, they ain't nothing but two years difference. You know what I'm saying? It wasn't like that motherfucker was a 27 year old.
But it's oh yeah yeah i know what you mean but yeah they probably was doing it in that way because i have seen an uptick in regards of people trying to lure people like now it's coming everybody can't be fucking john hansen in this motherfucker let the professionals do it right so i'm like everybody just want to be a fucking tiktok star yeah and just be like oh okay let me just catch this motherfucker in i hear a lot of that like sentimentality at like work where
it's like or like wherever i go to school and it's like this like if a if we find a pedophile it means it's go and it's it's okay to kill them and murder them and like just like take out all your aggressions on that pedophile so then but you're doing but why because i don't know why they want this like weird vigilante justice where they murder pedophiles i don't know and then they will then they live to equate gay people to pedophiles so then it's like it's like the same thing to them
yeah exactly so yeah i think i think as a gay community we should like be mindful of what we're doing yeah like don't mess with anyone under 18 yeah just for your own good just for your own safety just for your own safety and other great news.
Back to great and more america becoming great again trump expected to appoint anti-lgbtq plus white nationalist steven stefan miller to deputy chief of staff for policy oh shit oh he even has a skinhead president-elect donald trump is expected to announce his deputy chief of staff for policy will be stefan miller an anti-immigrant white nationalist who served as president trump's senior advisor and speechwriter during his first administration.
According to a new report in CNN, Miller is best known for his hardline anti-immigration stances, including advocating for separating families and mass deportation. America is for Americans and Americans only. What does that even mean? It's for only Americans. But what they wanted to say was white for only whites only. Just say it. They couldn't say it.
Miller said at the infamous Madison Square Garden rally in October, per the Associated Press, Miller has also proposed building camps to house deportees as well as deploying the National Guard to the border. The political advisor is also founder of the American First Legal, a law firm he describes as a long-awaited answer to the ACLU. An answer to the ACLU. Wow. The organization contributed to Project 2025, the Heritage Foundation's far-right blueprint for a second Trump White House.
But in July, as the policy document grew increasingly controversial in the public eye, America First asked that it be removed from the blueprint's advisory board. According to The Intercept, staff at America First Legal drafted much of the policy in Project 2025, including a proposed campaign to criminalize the mailing of abortion pills.
The 920-page policy blueprint includes radical plans to reshape the federal government and also includes many plans to restrict LGBTQ rights from banning gender-affirming care for youth to removing words having to do with LGBTQ identity and reproductive health from government-issued rules and regulations.
Project 2025 includes plans to deny the existence of trans people, strip away LGBTQ plus protections, undermine the rights of same-sex married couples, and even propose renaming the Department of Health and Human Services to the Department of Life. Earlier this year, America's First Legal joined Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton in suing Biden administration over its trans-inclusive Title IX guidelines, which were intended to protect students from discrimination on the basis of gender identity.
In the press release, Miller spoke out against the federal statute saying Biden's new Title IX regulation is a vile obscenity. It forces women and girls to share locker rooms and restrooms with men. It forces them to call a he, a she, and pretend in every way that a man is a woman, humiliating, degrading, and erasing women. Together, America First Legal and Paxton also fought to allow the University of Texas at Austin to punish students who went to other states to have abortions. Wow.
In 2023, Miller filed a complaint with the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission accusing Kellogg's of trying to politicize and sexualize its products like Cheez-Its featured RuPaul on the box and Pride-themed Pop-Tarts in order to target children. They already got fucking sprinkles on them motherfuckers. What is he talking about? Those sprinkles already got them, sis. I love how RuPaul's just slapping her face on everything. Here's some Cheez-Its. Cheez-Its room.
Aren't you working with nesli miller and america first legal were also behind some truly heinous anti-trans ads that have been used to galvanize republican voters and demonize trans people the propagandic propagandistic radio ads aired in at least 25 states ahead of the 2022 midterm elections the ads fomented fear-mongering over trans children repeating lies that gender-affirming care will sterilize children and that Biden administration support radical gender experiments on children.
America First Legal was also behind Spanish language anti-trans mailers sent to Latinx Colorado voters during the same election cycle. Damn. The mailers included language about Democrats indoctrinating your children and warning of sterilization, removing healthy genitals and warning against radical and irreversible irreversible gender experiments. What a fucking freak. Fuck you, Miller. Nah, fucking chief of staff that. So essentially he's just gonna put like Project 2025 policy into. Yeah.
Pretty fucking much. Sounds about white. But remember, nobody knew what the fuck 2025 was. So they claimed. Right. Don't even know what that is.
That article was from them by Matthew but also is something else he had mentioned, where how they sent out Latin Spanish language to Latinx communities in Colorado that just shows like they was just trying to get everybody on board because did y'all see or hear about that one person who was also he was Latin, Latino and he was I forgot what state but he voted for trump they everybody in that neighborhood voted for trump the white man came out and told him
that he don't want his kids his white kids to play with those hispanics that's what came out his mouth this man was so hot and upset he don't even speak english so he's like on the video is just like going on on how upset he was but i was like this is what you voted for right you wanted trump in the office. Y'all love Trump so much. Y'all thought y'all was gonna be buddy buddy, but he still don't want his kids to play with your kids. So now y'all got beef. And I was like, see, they...
I don't know how they fell for it. I don't know how you fell for it. I mean, it's pretty insidious. Like, he's sending these mailers to people who he is saying, America is for Americans. But let me create this shit in Spanish and, like, really get to them and make them feel like they're on my side so I can get your vote. And then once you have your vote, and that's what I've been fucking trying to tell all these goddamn people. It's like, you don't know how fucking white supremacy works,
bitch. Just because they're fucking smiling at you right now and making the joke with you.
Once you fucking get out the fucking door and turn your back they're gonna chop your fucking ass right the fuck off and that's exactly what that motherfucker did cause I'm quite sure during motherfucking anything else, this wouldn't have been a thing if you know what I'm saying I'm quite sure he would have said oh like he always been like that don't listen to him now this is shocking to you, cause y'all loved Trump so much y'all went to Trump rallies well I'm assuming
but anyway but you were emboldened now, fuck you Miller you started this yeah so yeah did you hear about these crazy texts oh yeah i didn't get one i was gonna ask did you get one child not you because that motherfucking number would have been called immediately i saw that at the on the news at when i was at the gym and i saw it on the screen i was like what the fuck i was like you motherfuckers are really getting wild no they are fucking
acting the fuck up but i've so the federal and state authorities are working to find the.
Origins of the racist text messages sent to black people across the country referencing slavery and telling them they were selected to pick cotton at the nearest plantation first of all the fbbi could have fucking found that out pretty fucking quick if it was a mass goddamn text like come on don't be stupid right you know what i mean like you don't think you can reach and find out a mass text that went fucking
nationwide you can't fucking find that out quickly So what the fuck is the Department of Defense doing? Right, you can't even find out who sent the text. Wow, you're really good at investigating shit. Right. So children, college students, and working professionals have received a mass text for unrecognized phone numbers in the wake of the presidential election.
The hate-filled rhetoric, remiss of the country's painful, bigoted past has been reported in at least 30 states from New York to California and District of Columbia. The NAACP president warned Thursday stay of possible border implications, while attorney general of both parties are condemning the messages and vowing to root out their senders. The unfortunate reality of electing the president who historically has embraced and at times encouraged hate is unfolding before our eyes.
The NAACP CEO, Derek Johnson said, these messages represent an alarming increase in violent rhetoric from racist groups across the country who now feel emboldened to spread hate and stoke the flames of fear that many of us feel after Tuesday's election. I'm not going to even read all that bullshit because if you ain't, if you ain't got a fucking name and a motherfucking charge, then shut the fuck up. Shut the fuck up.
And you know what it probably is? It's probably that like fucking Q Anonymous probably got on the fucking black web or some bullshit with a fucking, hey, copy and paste and here's a fucking folder full of phone numbers. Yeah.
I'm just assuming I don't you know what I mean yeah well they're saying at least some of the texts appear to have been sent through text now and what the company believes is a widespread coordinated attack it told CNN on Friday so text now is essentially a company that allows people to sign up anonymously using an email address and to send texts that appear to come from a randomly generated phone number so text great company right why would
you want to do that if don't sit in a text if you want to be anonymous we have a company where you can just steal money from people anonymously and so like what the fuck are you fucking idiots did you guys see that shit where it was like some guy talking about your body my choice oh yeah i do but it was like it was randomly i can't remember i forgot his name but yeah i heard about that that shit was kind of wild too i was like y'all are nasty some guy tweeted your body my choice forever.
Yes well even this article's article was saying someone spoke out saying that the text had nothing to do with trump's presidency and i'm just like how how does that not connect what's exactly what the fuck is he talking about who said this in this article that we're just reading about the in this article we read about the text let's see emboldened ass motherfuckers sorry so i said not connected this is regular racists oh see donald trump donald trump's presidential campaign
has absolutely nothing to do with these text messages spokesperson spokesperson caroline leave it said in a statement i don't know who that is why y'all feeling guilty like it would, i wasn't assuming it was directly from your campaign i was assuming it was from someone who voted for you but i don't know how people could not see the connection because, oh she's an american writer i don't know who you are it's that lying bullshit
they do oh karen lovett is she was the press secretary for donald trump's presidential campaign so of course you're gonna say that a court right. Fucking freaks is there any good gayness out there, no did anything good happen to you queens oh this is not good remember I sent you the tech messages from Instagram about the cruising spots oh yeah I should share them so I was on.
On sniffies and she had like instagram sometimes now i'm just like oh what's happening right what's going on and let me find just scrolling and shit what are the people doing what are the queers doing i was just like roaming around like the the parks and cruising spots because i love the chatter that happens in there because you can leave comments and like oh okay people get in arguments and stuff like that oh and so apparently one night the queers
went to go cruise there and it's a really like popular cruising spot now got like famous really recently and so people are going and people notice a group of guys that are pretty young like in their college age just kind of chilling talking and kind of making comments about people going into the park and like someone like was like does anyone know what's happening here they're not cruising or anything so everyone ignored it and then like an hour
later there's posts of people saying those motherfuckers popped our tires so those guys are out there went and like slashed tires let me guess several of the people who were cruising at that park was they members of sigma alpha epsilon right. It's a long beach a long beach branch that's wild yeah gays keep it in the house i know right let's go to the well i guess technically it ain't safe no goddamn well but i mean i know the urge to cruise and shit is probably like the thrill you get from it.
But like at this point, like it's not safe. It's a little dangerous, y'all. Right. Because who's not to say that most of these colleges ain't fucking mass sending their recruits or their pledges to do stupid shit at all these different states at their different chapters and shit. You know what I'm saying? Because these motherfuckers are ran by white motherfuckers and I'm quite sure
they are Republican. Yeah. Keep that shit inside at this point but also be like aware of your surroundings like you saw these people out there making comments and like not participating in cruising like that's a big ass red flag like you're just also setting yourself up for danger like that's true like you act like you can't read a fucking homophobe on my right right all of us do come on ain't no smoking coming out that motherfucking car either what's
this yeah right right you know if they ain't hot boxing in that motherfucker then and like I don't want to fear monger like I think that we're, they doing it but like we also need to be aware of our surroundings and be mindful of where we're at you know cause these times people are emboldened and that's what I feel like this Trump presidency will bring so I encourage people to like be with community stick with like minded people you know and if you have to venture out like just be aware you know
what we should open up a queer ABC bathhouse a safe space a safe space, I mean cause I mean even obviously even the apps don't seem to be safe they're not fucking safe they're not fucking safe yo I mean I guess the apps are only safe if it's like the same old man that you see literally every single day his profile picture have never changed 700 feet away, so you have to have sex with him.
If it's like a super if it's like a super attractive hottie that all of a sudden wants you for no reason maybe it's like a secret evil person who wants to kill you. That's true. Just be aware yo. But they could also catfish. They could have that old gay man's picture too. You also right. They can be a catfish of a sugar daddy. Because god damn it you might get me. Yeah.
At this motherfucking point. But I so One gay thing that I did this weekend that I thought was I went to Disneyland for the first time. Now I know the hype or feel the hype because when I was going in there beforehand, I was like why the fuck did I agree to this? But as soon as I got in and I felt like the energy of just Disney, just like, I was like, Oh, this is the nicest. Like I started walking. This is a nicest place on the world. Like I started walking down the street
and I felt like fucking bail. I was like, bonjour, bonjour. And everybody was like, what the fuck is your, I was like, I'm happy now. Like for some reason, because everything reminds you of like nostalgia and like your childhood and all, you know what I'm saying? But I was like, yeah. So I busted my Disneyland cherry. I'm glad a non-jaded person had a good experience. Yay. Are you a Disney gay now? No. No. Did you get a Disney pin? Did you buy any memorabilia? Who's your Disney princess?
Who's your favorite? They're all my favorites. Wrong answer. Oh, Tiana. There you go. Did you see her? No. I feel like a lot of them motherfuckers was off. Because I was like, where is? It barely took me a minute to find Mickey. He was over there in California Adventure. I didn't see him at all over there at Disneyland. But yeah, I won't probably go back again. Because I also was blessed. So I didn't stay in the person I went with had a lighting pass.
So I didn't have to stand in line. Oh, that's nice. I think the longest time we stayed in line was probably, what, seven months? Wow, that's amazing. I remember as a kid, I remember standing in line for, like, hours. Yeah, I wouldn't. To get on a 10-minute ride. Because I feel like if you do it like that, you probably, what, get to ride three rides probably a day? Yeah. I remember Indiana Jones was always a really popular one. Oh, I did that one, too. Yeah. Oh, did you get stuck in that one?
No, I got stuck in fucking Pirate of the Caribbean. That's a rite of passage. But I didn't, so I really don't do rides and shit or like heights, but I feared a little bit, but I had a good time. What was the most intense ride? Did you go on the Incredicoaster? Hell no. Oh my God, Wim. Hell yeah. Come on. He was scared of Pirates of Caribbean, girl. No, I was. He's like, ah, who's that? No, it's just like when they do them fucking drops
and shit. I'm like, dude, come on now. They're like little baby drops. Oh yeah, huh. Yeah, that baby drop almost get a baby turd out of me. God damn it. The fuck? But I also did the one where you fly over the countries. Oh, California Soren.
So here's the fucked up part when we got in they was like oh like if you have fear of heights or this and the other you should probably you know wait outside for your friends or like something i was like oh i should have listened dude soon as they picked us up i was fucking white knuckling the fucking really dude because like it felt so the stimulation is so fucking real yo and then when i did star wars star wars like i was the pilot so i was in the front and i'm like oh like this
stimulation is too damn real like i just feel like i'm dropping and shit i was like yeah that is true but i had a good time though that's good that star wars room is pretty cool the one with the game right and that's the one where you're like the pilot which room oh yeah yeah that when you're walking through like the line oh yeah it feel like you walking through that bitch. I'm like, dang, it's real. It is. I did have a good time with that one.
Gay joy. So yeah, that's my gay joy of the weekend. What about yours? The gayest thing was definitely the, I did glassblowing. Gay. No, sorry. So it was very cute and artisanal. Oh. And, because I've always wanted to blow glass, but my fiance's friend, his fiance wanted to do it for her birthday. So we all went and it was fantastic. And it was at the Los Angeles Glass Center in El Segundo.
And if you want to blow glass for $175 for a class you can and it's fun and it's great, nice and I definitely recommend it and I made a little glass bowl and I ate ice cream out of it and it was fantastic you don't get to get it until the next day because it has to like.
Process or whatever the fuck freezer a needle because what is it like, gravel that y'all burn it's basically sand yeah and yeah that's crazy to think of it that way right i was like i was like so it's just sand you're melting i was like there's nothing special about it it's not like a special sand he was like not really he's like this one is specific from here from el segondo it's just silica and i'm like wow that's cool how do we invent that how come there's not like,
a desert that's just like all glass, it's not hot enough I guess that's probably true but that'd be cute quiz what's the temperature to get to blow glass, oh they didn't tell us, how the class is this and they'll tell you the furnace was like a thousand degrees she just shut up and blew I know shut up and blow, did you do anything gay doctor I was trying to remember my weekends no so you had to go I think it was just relaxing it was a weekend off so i just like stayed
home and in bed oh okay yeah nice very slow weekend beautiful much needed, well queens i think do you guys have any other quick teas or is this everybody thirst their wait quench your thirst no longer thirsty no longer thirsty i think these queens have deserved a break. Yay. Music. Hey, y'all. Christoph here. And we just wanted to say thank you for all the love and support. But don't forget to go ahead and give us a five-star review, a like, a heart, a comment.
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¶ Navigating Relationships and Politics
And we're back. So today, I wanted to talk about chosen family. Yes, in these troubling times. Music. Know that you are able to be safe with but mostly a lot of people that are coming from our community the lgbtq plus community has to have a chosen family that they know that they can trust be safe with so it's basically like that what was i supposed to read no you can do both right so that's that's. My version of what that means for a chosen family but not hypothetically.
But i'm gonna find it around yeah so.
Chosen family is especially significant in communities where people may experience rejection or isolation from their biological families such as within the lgbtq circle it represents a commitment to support love and nature each other providing a sense of belonging stability and identity that may be missing elsewhere these relationships can offer deep emotional support and resilience creating a family based on choice and unconditional acceptance rather than obligation or social expectation
so yeah so basically just like that so you and then you can choose who you want to be in your family so it doesn't have to be the you know how america.
Sees fit like mom dad brother sister would you say this is different than just friends yes because friends friends are different because sometimes when you have friends you you're not being sometimes you put on for your friends you know i'm saying you're not actually being true or you don't know if you are going to be unconditionally loved by your friend you know i'm saying because with your family that that person that chosen family knows your darkest secrets or able and been with you at
your hardest of times your chosen family has seen you cry your chosen family has you.
Know been there for you and wiped the tears off your eyes and you know things of that nature i think but now we do have friends that do that but we also that have those friends that you may not share everything with so that's why i would think that that's friends are different from chosen family and your chosen family is where your heart is at because you feel the most safe when you put your heart into a chosen family or your friends and things of that nature so if my friends have my heart,
then they are my chosen family. You know what I mean? And I do have a chosen family because I'm a Rolling Stone per se. So I've been in a lot of states where I didn't have my original family with me and I had to find my place in these cities. And then even before I was out, excuse me, these were people that, Was able to allow me to sleep on their couch, find me a job, you know, like just be there for me.
So like I was new to a city and shit like it was just like, yeah, so that I and then their shit and then they shared their families with me. So that's who I feel like my chosen family is. So I have one in each state. OK, not each 50 states, but states I lived in. I was like, damn, 50.
Pick a home right stay still interesting interesting interesting i think there's an overlap between chosen family and friends right i think that people who are part of your chosen family are probably started off as as friends and you would consider friends yeah and i think there's a different levels of like friendship right like i can be friends with someone where we go out and like we eat dinner and catch up right you know versus like someone that like will i'll call
in a crisis or when i need like a huge support you know i think because of that i think there there is a difference true true true i feel like there was like a time where like i had a lot of people who i would have considered to be family like chosen family but then like i don't know i guess like over time realizing i don't know like dumping these people and being like well i guess you're not supposed to dump your family right like there's a difference like you like you're stuck
with your family like you're stuck with your chosen family maybe are you no i don't I don't think necessarily. Because I feel like that contradicts the idea of chosen family. Because I think the idea of chosen family...
Is because i feel like if if you go with that the frame of reference and you allow toxicity into your life too and you welcome like unhealthy dynamics right just because they're your family and just because they were your family at one time doesn't mean they can continue to be the family if they're like causing harm to you right and they're not changing you know because i felt like i had to like be ride or die for like like my friends and then i felt like i was definitely not
receiving that ride or die like vibe back but not even that i think just like knowing that certain people like i guess i don't know don't have your back in the same way that you have their back yeah and it's kind of just being like okay i'm gonna like take a step back from you yeah and be like yeah unshoes you yeah but i think that that highlights the different level of friendships right like for you in order to be part of your chosen family they needed to be that
that right and die to have your back right and that person wasn't so then that's not part of your chosen family because it doesn't meet your your perspective of family and not even like me like offering my services as a ride or die but them like demanding me to be that for them and then like also just not returning that so it's kind of like it's okay we do have. We do have ability to unchoose our family. Yeah, because I think part of having chosen family is being surrounded by people who.
Can be there for to support you to help you through tough times but also good times and that have your back and are in your corner you know and and that don't bring like things that make you feel safe like i feel like for the gay community we have chosen family because we want a family that accepts us for our sexuality in particular you know so i think our chosen family sorry whoa so i think your chosen family probably has a very similar like value system you know that you want to
create and have very similar like political or even like social views you know same moral standard yeah exactly interesting do you guys have a chosen family people yeah i had chosen family so do i yeah it's it shifts and it changes you know yeah like speaking like you've been to different places like i feel like for me it's been different like phases in my life where i had like my chosen family in college you know then i had like my chosen family and
like grad school and then i'll have like my chosen family as like this adult.
Supposedly yeah i feel like i've definitely like chosen these people based on like their openness to my gayness like yeah solely yeah because like these like these group of people essentially like i can talk to them about things that i would not talk to my family about yeah so it's like, definitely need those kinds of people in your life definitely and that's true we all grow we all change you know i'm saying so with that being said those people may not be on the same.
Level mentally as you that you are going to you know what I mean so I know that will change like you outgrow people sometimes yeah that's in layman's terms yeah yeah yeah you outgrow relationships sometimes and that happens and that's okay but also what also what I found out with my chosen family is that it's really especially if you don't have one it's very important to start finding your chosen family and don't jump into chosen families like you have to know these individuals you
okay you have to be able to trust these individuals so don't take it like lightly just because like oh this person was nice to me that person could be nice to you but that doesn't mean they still have your best interests in heart so you have to have some of those dark, deep hidden conversations, at the upfront of your interaction with individuals, in the event that if you are looking for a chosen family, because you just, you don't want that to, you don't want to have to maneuver through.
That process and not know if this person has your best interest at heart you know i'm saying yeah like someone who's who's using you or exactly is grooming you you know with the intention of wanting something in order to help to get something else yeah yeah i think you definitely have to listen to your your instinct on that that's most definitely true i guess if anything it's more like you have to wait over time to see if these friends develop into your family yeah because you
can only find out right like if a person yeah is a piece of shit i mean you can only just find out yeah and then unfortunately because that's just even how it is with your family because how many times we had a family member that we grew up with that we thought was this one type of person.
And really come up just like to show out and show their ass for no fucking reason like what i thought i oh well i didn't know you at all so don't beat yourself up to not feel that you may not know that person deeply because you may never know but at least you have that bond in regards of the space that you two hold or that family hold whatever that family unit look like that we are there for one another y'all may not see eye to eye you know
i'm saying they may not have the back your back like how you feel they should have your back but they have your back so it's a it's a very difficult process to maneuver through i would think yeah if you think about it each person has their own perspective of family right and their own family dynamics that they come from and you're going to bring whatever family dynamics you grew up with into any relationship you come so now you have this chosen family
with four different family structures and way of knowing family and it can be a little clunky you know but that's what that's i think what creates family too is understanding of like hey i didn't like that or setting up boundaries and people respecting it and understanding that's what creates family i think that's a huge part of it setting boundaries yeah but also like understanding that hey i caused harm that's not okay and growing together and like. Hearing what that person is saying and then.
And then changing or finding a compromise you know right because i feel. Like that whole like staying together even like though you had like an argument it's probably like a good definition or like a good like characteristic of like that right because that's how families are is like you have to stay.
Together and like because i mean yeah there is like people who just like have one tiff with like a person that they meet and they're like we're dead yeah so it's like yeah yeah there's balance to it yeah right, interesting yeah because i mean i definitely feel like these people who i have excommunicated out of my life forever i definitely feel like i had given them that space to like come back and like make mistakes and we like make mistakes together
but then it was kind of just like a point where it's like you actually i'm like finding out like you actually don't right they're not putting in the work to change you can't you know yeah keep coming back and making the same fucking mistakes then i'm just yeah yeah you know what i mean like i think you're doing this on purpose, you want to see that side of me like family but yeah but i think also like chosen family has been so integral i feel like in
keeping the queer community alive you know think of like like paris is burning the the the houses in new york right like those are chosen family and they.
Band together take care of each other yeah but one thing i was gonna say, with all of my chosen families that i've had in the different states the the best time that they showed up for me was like doing like this time that we're about to enter which was like the holidays so like thanksgiving christmas because i wasn't always able to have pto and fly home or drive home or go on to be with family or friends so those individuals like and you know what like you have
to granted i treat people how i want to be treated so i treat them with kindness and understanding so i also don't expect people to share their families with me you know what i'm saying because you know that's y'all time that's y'all time together and that's where you know y'all go to you know follow up with each other and love on each other and y'all do that in the safeness of your own home and community, which is your family unit.
But when you have a stranger come in, a stranger to them as a family, you know, it's like, ah, you know, you can only be yourself, but you also feel like you don't want to like, you don't know how like they were, they were the religions, like, damn, can I cuss? Like, you know what I'm saying? Like you got to almost be on P's and Q's, but at least I knew that one, I was going in respectful, of course, but then.
It seemed like most of these motherfuckers would be my family if I was, you know, it felt like a family unit. But they also showed up and showed out for me on the holidays. Yeah. So I do appreciate that. Like, I'm surprised now that I'm thinking about it. Like, to be invited to people like Thanksgiving dinners and Christmas parties as a family. Like, oh, like, and I just go just to go. I'm not expecting shit. I just go there for a plate, a little drink, a little drinky drink.
Like, and then they were like, I'm like, oh, you're present under the tree. My present. Oh, like, wait, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Like, and then I was like, like, y'all shouldn't have, like, I didn't, I didn't come for like a present. Like, I literally come just to fellowship. And then like, and then that's how you have them become or like, and then they look out for you. Like, oh, she like, damn, that's crazy. Because I'm like, I just wanted fellowship.
I just wanted to be around people and family and love during the holidays. And then they just embraced me into it so that was like that was deep that was fun that's beautiful do you guys have any like chosen family like traditions i do like a friendsgiving every year see i was gonna say that but i was like i feel like that's i don't do it but my friend does it oh like i'm not throwing it i attend because i feel like that's becoming like i think that Friendsgiving is a thing.
But I also feel like it's becoming mainstream. Because that's also how Friendsgiving came along. During the holidays, when people weren't able to go home to their families and have a turkey dinner or have a great meal because, you know, they was, you know, kicked out of their family and things of that nature.
The community came together to have a Thanksgiving dinner and everybody would take a particular dish and make that dish and then go and, you know, have fellowship and eat a good Thanksgiving meal and then have a good time without having like walking on eggshells or like, ooh. You just did a Friendsgiving that looked like a Gap photo shoot. Oh, yeah. Yeah, and that's basically what it was. It was a group of people who are friends with one another, and it was the individual who threw it.
She ordered a professional photographer and wanted everybody to dress up like in a pair of jeans and a white shirt or a white top, and we just had a good time. And it was like basically set it up from like 6 a.m. 6 a.m. 6 p.m. to 7. It was like a cocktail hour. And then 7 to 8 was like, you know, you know, whatever the food's about to begin. And then, you know, it's just good times. And it was actually a great time to
be with friends and community. And it was like a lot of people from the Varsity Gay League Long Beach kickball team. So it was a good time. Food was good. The drinks was flowing. The photography was good. It was a good turnout. But I also had one earlier that day with a close group of family. I mean, group of friends. It was a brunch Friendsgiving because we, of course, had a dinner one. And that was also good. Breakfast, champagne, and just fellowship.
Like, it's all about just having a good time and talking to shit and, you know, not having to feel like you have to, like, put on for a motherfucker. You know? And it was a good time. But hopefully walk into a few more. Nice. That's cute. Did you have any this year? Not yet. I know it's still early, but, you know, shit, my calendar be filling up.
¶ The Season of Chosen Family
I usually go to dr mikey's friendsgiving because he's my chosen okay are you having one this year i don't know are we having one this year i guess we are having one this year i'll send you the details noise i came with the baskin robbins oh the turkey cake it was cute it was so cute and delicious i don't remember if anyways there was a turkey ice cream baskin robbins cake which i don't know i saw an ad for it again i might get to do it it was a success it's a it's a tradition
that's what you do with chosen family you start traditions i also do like um my other friend who is my chosen family she usually throws like a wine party every year too so i guess like definitely like holiday parties is like a thing yeah that we do with this chosen family yeah i do I definitely do come to my chosen families around the holidays. I guess like regular family. Yeah. I don't go to my family stuff. It's just your chosen family stuff.
Right? I feel like I do like my own chosen family stuff more, actually. Or at least I feel like I probably honor it more. You know what I mean? Like, I probably wouldn't come through my own family's thing with that turkey cake. Like, y'all don't get shit. Yeah. You get my stank attitude. You better like it. That's what you're getting for Christmas, too. That's what you're getting.
That's what you get it for christmas too so don't get a lot of it, damn that's not the truth is it, but you know i also think that bio family can be part of chosen family, because i think chosen family is just like you know that that acceptance and that safety you know and there's some bio family that that is that right because i feel like a lot of like your real bio family is piece of shit anyways like a lot of those people aren't riot or die for you
we don't give a fuck about you like especially if they find out you're gay bye, but right like i feel like i have like even like some of your chosen family biological family can come out the woodwork during the trump era oh yeah you and shake you, yeah so you gotta be on your p's and q's but then i always was like you are always a little too quiet yeah when it came to politics i always knew in my heart maybe as long as you're quiet about it stay fucking quiet quiet out there.
Yeah because uh was it a few years ago my best friend had she hosted like a thanksgiving, and her mom is a republican and she she did vote for trump but she also like knows how all of us are so like she did not say anything she she got in this little thing about politics and me her kind of going back and forth and then she eventually like realized and she stopped and we just changed subjects she's like shit yeah you're like you're outnumbered here girl,
see but also would you think that that would just be like oh like you know what that's probably that's he's my chosen son or chosen whomever or chose oh she wasn't right she was just given.
And she gave that but she also knew that she wasn't she was out there was so many of us there so can your chosen family like your real bio family be on the other side of the fence can they be republicans no well i know she's like not my family i mean but do we all know we probably have somebody we probably all have somebody in our family who decided to vote for their food, you know i'm saying but like you just don't know you know i'm saying no because
i can't honestly sit here and say that i know that my family nobody in my family nobody on the side of my facts of my chosen and biological family, voted for that motherfucker I would like to be 100% sure but shit I gotta rethink who this family is gotta rethink this family tree don't have to rethink it you just never know.
I don't know after this election a big trend of people cutting out people like Trumpers, Trump voters I think that's funny because i've been seeing a lot of these like posts that are like if you vote if you're on a trump fuck you and get off but i'm like sis weren't you saying that like since like 2016, like didn't they delete you already like who are you talking to the the new trump voters, like what right this ain't nothing new yeah i don't know i mean that discourse
like do you think that you need to cut them out of your life like i'm chopping you out of my life if they voted for somebody in your chosen or biological or whoever family, do you think you need to chop them out of your life? Like these posts that you see? I mean, I don't... Let's say you found out somebody... Let's say we found out tomorrow your mom was like, oh, actually, babe, I voted for Trump. Obviously, what are you going to do? You're not going to chop her out of your life, are you? No.
Someone else says yes. What are you going to do? If somebody voted...
Let's say your fiance voted for Trump, you wouldn't be able to chop him out of your life or would you just i mean i definitely would, rethink some things i would definitely be confused on how i didn't know that before, like i would feel like i would have done known that or like i would have hoped i would have fucking thought i knew that and i would have fucking not proposed to you but like i see that a lot too is like these like women online being like oh my
husband voted for trump and blah blah blah blah blah right and i'm like but how are you surprised sis like when did it catch you like off by surprise that you're the man you married it was like low-key hates women and not just you your daughters too you and your daughters y'all daughters yeah that's wild yeah do you not talk about politics ever right or you just like stayed away from it because you already knew he was an asshole yeah it's like a red flag yeah
i don't get that but because i have another friend who was telling me like he had a good best friend and then she married a republican guy and then all of a sudden like he just kind of like like stopped being in her life like slowly and like he never like like got to hang out with her anymore and like i don't know like she just iced him out because her husband's a republican the end. But he stopped hanging out. Yeah, she stopped. She basically cut him out of
her life. Because she just, I guess, I don't know. Her husband is a Republican and her friend is gay. So I guess that means they can't be friends anymore. I don't know. That's wild. Yeah. Which I understand. I understand the idea behind it. Because it's like, if you're voting for Trump, then you're voting against my rights. That's a fact, right? Like, look at what's happening.
Or what people are suggesting is going to happen you know and so the way like i kind of approached it is with family when we have different ideals of like of like homosexuality and stuff like that first time it was like well i'm not going to talk to you but if you want back in my life this is how you do it like you need to go educate yourself go to p flag flags you know p flag go talk to other people who have gay kids or gay family members and
they're christian so i'm like go talk to your pastors about queer things go talk to a gay pastor so like i'm not going to talk to them but i'm also going to give the opportunity to come back in once you educate yourself because like homophobia is steeped in ignorance and all you need to be is educated but and undo all that it just takes time but i'm i'm also not going to have you in my life if those are the views that you're holding right now yeah
get back to me when you're better and if not then too bad to say you chose you chose that was a choice you decided to make because my situation was i had this this like bestie cousin that i had and so then like i find out that she's like trump supporter and then i was like oh my god sis like what the fuck and so like i was trying to like basically preach to her the gospel.
And she was not trying to hear it and then it basically just like led us to like this like stand still and then our relationship literally ended the end so like and then so yeah that's literally what happened and so i guess i'm down with the cutting people out of your life aspect, but at the same time like she's been trying to get back at me on like on instagram and like hit me up slowly and try to like send me memes and
i'm just like i don't know if i'm trying to accept your memes sis like i'm not trying to laugh at that whatever you sent me oh so you don't even open it like i'll i'll open it so it says scene oh but then i'll press like heart oh.
And so i'm just like you still have not uh made reparations to me like i don't know which you want um, and so like she basically ended it where she's like let's just not talk about politics, and i'm just like well i don't know where to go from there yeah i mean but that's a privilege to say like let's not talk about politics because like well when she was a woman you know but like the thing she doesn't want to talk about
is something that affects you right queer rights right like it's a privilege to be able to say i don't talk about queer queer rights you know what do I look like if you're like, we don't talk about women's rights. You know, what do we want to talk about black rights? Like, no, like, it's the same thing. Right? Mm-hmm. Right? Yeah, because it's kind of like how we were saying earlier, where it's like, this, like, bears no weight on their soul. Yeah.
It's a privilege. She's like, what do you mean? Like, I vote with vibes, and I just don't like, I just don't like your side. I vote with vibes. I vote with vibes. so definitely into the like you said like if it was my fiance like I already cut out my blood cousin. So fuck him too I mean in the event but yeah like that's I mean cause it's probably like yeah that's crazy cause you just never know mm-hmm mm-hmm,
and then cause what's the that crazy line family is wait Blood is thicker than water. Yeah. What? Say it again? Blood is thicker than water. Oh, blood is thicker than water. But like, thickness don't go nowhere, though. Water flow, goddammit, shit. Is your fuck? Any other family thoughts? See, I don't know. I don't have any. It's the season for family. If you ain't got one, go find you one. Did your chosen grandma teach you how
to make any good mashed potatoes for the holiday season? I don't have a chosen grandma. I do. I'll leave that to Betty Crocker instant mashed potatoes. Is that who you choose? Betty Crocker? That white woman. What about you, doctor? Any other chosen family thoughts? No. If you're going to visit your bio fam and it's a little rough, you don't have a good relationship, just don't sit it out. Don't, I would suggest.
But if you're going to force yourself to do it for whatever reason, take care of yourself before and after and during. But hey, we're indoctrinated with these ideas of a family first, right? Like the lettuce thicker than water. And sometimes we put ourselves in those environments because we think we have to and we don't.
Yeah fuck your family i like that term bio family that sounds like it's so like removed, bio family these are just my biohackers right you think i'm gonna share genes right you think i'm gonna walk in with a fucking pumpkin pie and you got a fucking trump trump flag out there right the fuck reverse this car oh my god my dad was like complaining because i guess his american flag is like falling or doing like something shit that's like busted i'm like girl take that
shit down it's a nazi flag again america's not cool take it down oh my god in the fucking latinos from for trump across the street with their fucking lights that are american fucking they're like this american flag theme going at night now oh wow i'm like get the fuck out of here Did you see that?
¶ The Complexity of Family Dynamics
I don't recommend. You know what? Everybody do what you want. People was like, the Latinos for Trump. They go. A Latino guy was like, he made a like a TikTok. It was like, here's the number of the ice. Soon report, report. And I was like, damn, that's wow. Well, I guess that's what they wanted. I would never do that. I mean, if you're voting, you're not, you're not, you're not an illegal citizen and you ain't going to get deported. in the story.
Well, they's trying to send everybody back where they from. They don't let the illegals vote. Yeah. But some of them people well, you now the subject gets a little bit crazier. But their families, you know I'm from what the TikTok video says that their families Okay, Trump. The man on TV said No, but like I don't know if this would be true because I'm not from a Latino family. there's like some of the people in your household is undocumented.
Like, how you gonna vote for a Trump and then you have people in your family that's undocumented? I'm calling them the same household. You may not be there, but now your wife and your... Or whoever may be deported. I don't know fucks. Well, I guess. Yeah. But I think deciding to like...
To say deport them and call ice like i don't know like that's just very extreme still like how's that your response like i understand maybe you're upset but they're coming for them and they're gonna come for you next right yeah but also like saying like i don't know these people are extreme they're getting crazy but also like act like this shit wasn't happening during kamala's fucking reign. Or Obama's. Biden's reign. And also, like, this other guy who's, like, this extremist, like, what is it?
Anti-immigrationist, like, bitch. Obama already deported more people than you. You are serious about deportations. Idiot. The fuck? Anyways. With that, I'd like to say thank you to myself, Nino, Dr. Mikey, and Christophe.
¶ Closing Thoughts
From all of us here at the Queer LBC, you're good enough, you're smart enough, and doggone it, people like you. Good night. Sleep tight. Don't let the bedpuss bite.
