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Chemsex

Mar 03, 20241 hr 18 minEp. 51
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Welcome to another episode of the QueerLBC Podcast! In today's Quick Tea we discuss Nex Benedict and the frightening transphobia across the US, a bill in California for non-prescription PrEP, and the legalization of same-sex marriage in Greece.

In the main topic we talk substance use and intimacy within the LGBTQ+  community. This candid discourse on chemsex explores the ethical implications and emotional outcomes associated with it, aiming to incite deeper understanding. The episode includes personal narratives regarding drugs' influence on sexual encounters and the allure of substances to break social inhibitions. Cautionary discussions about the potential physical and psychological impacts of substance abuse are thoroughly addressed. It's gonna be a spicy one today! You won't wanna miss!

 

Transcript

Trigger Warning Announcement

Hey y'all, this podcast contains potentially disturbing content. Our show includes graphic references to topics such as sexual abuse, self-harm, violence, eating disorders, explicit language, and sexual acts. Listener discretion is advised. This show is for mature audiences only. Good morning and slay, slay bitch, slay all day because you are what? But listening to the Queer LBC podcast, I'm Christophe, your city top liaison. My pronouns are he, him, and that motherfucker.

I have with me here my fabulous core whore. Nino here. Yeah, I'm still here. Local construction daddy and podcast fatty. My pronouns are he, him. Thank you for asking. Dr. Mikey here, your professional cheese muscle. Tell me all your secrets. My pronouns are he, she, all of them. So what do you have for us today, Christophe? Oh, you know just some. Quick tea and queer events. Quick tea and queer events. Quick tea and queer events. Quick tea and queer events.

Ha ha. So this is the quick tea and queer events. This is where we get into the LGBT and the tea of it all. Sometimes we get a little Q2, if you know what I mean. I know what you mean, girl. So what are these queens talking about today, this week?

LGBT+ News Highlights

All right, so today in gay, Greece legalized same-sex marriages. SB339 in California gives 90-day supply of PrEP without prescription. All right, today in homophobia, Tennessee governor signs bill allowing public officials to refuse to perform same-sex marriages. Today in transphobia, trans student Nex Benedict was beaten to death in a school restroom after Oklahoma passed a trans bathroom bill.

Discussion on Transphobic Incident

A leading LGBTQ plus group Is calling for a federal investigation To next Benedict's death Kansas AG Says school must out trans kids To their parents even without a law requiring it What the fuck.

So do you queens know any of These quick teas and events I've been hearing a lot about next I've been hearing a lot about that And it broke my fucking heart, to hero that that fucking took place and then for the fact that the school did absolutely fucking nothing i keep hearing lots of like different random like reports right yeah with contradicting information and i'm also hearing that it's an ongoing investigation right now right that things are still up in the air but i also heard

that the cops were already saying like they gave the cause of death rather than like a coroner i'm like first of all you're not qualified to give a cause of death but yeah they were saying the cops were originally saying that it wasn't due to blunt force trauma but they've have since taken that back hmm yeah because, no i don't know i saw here i also was like hearing people saying like oh we don't actually know if they're what they're like identifying as or like they

don't know if they're actually like Like, LGBTQ. Oh, they were saying all that craziness. Yeah. I was trying to find, I wanted to pull up an article that I've seen online versus the one that was circulating through media. Because it was more, it was from an individual. Damn, I think they end up blocking it.

While you're looking for that. that one thing that that stood out to me is we actually talked around like our valentine's day episode about chaya raychick and if you remember that article she is behind the the libs of tiktok and she is like very much like anti-trans and she got appointed to the oklahoma education education library for me on the advisory committee yeah so next is also from oklahoma so there was a lot of controversy because chaya like recently like

visited the area and in the fall spewing like anti-trans things obviously trying to like get anti-trans getting trans like oriented books or anything related to lgbt out of libraries so there's a lot of controversy see on about.

Putting some blame or at least highlighting how anti-trans rhetoric is responsible for what happened to next because i mean yeah that like sets a precedent for like what's acceptable like thoughts and behaviors and i don't know but that's fucked up and it's fucking stupid that's that's beyond like when they say they care about children yeah and then go around and then And just completely disregard this event that happened.

I was listening to some news stories trying to be like, oh, well, you know, they threw water. And it's like, what the fuck? The reaction is not proportional to what happened. You murdering me is not like, what the fuck? I threw water at you. Yeah. And now you've killed me.

Yeah. but i also heard like there was the next was getting bullied in the restroom and the response was to throw water the people that the girls that were bullying yeah yeah and then like they got mad and then they attacked next yeah so it's like yeah that's not really equal yeah like water calm down like ladies yeah no exactly but i don't know what's hard because like if i think the what's happening is like the anti-trans rhetoric is really like dehumanizing the trans community and

it creates like this otherness and that's what like the powers to be that want like if you think about they're doing the same tactic to palestinians right you know any oppressed group has been dehumanized and when you're at the point of dehumanization people feel they they can do anything without care or cause we've seen this in like so many communities like palestinians the african-american community when they were enslaved you know like all that required the dehumanization

of that group in order to sustain or excuse their behavior yep that's how people treat like homeless also yeah because you hear like a lot of people make jokes about how like they could just like kill homeless people i guess yeah yeah remember they was like it was like Like people just going around at night. Murdering homeless people, sleeping in encampments. It was like, dude, like what do you, what has to be going on in your mind for you to just think that that's okay.

There's still a person that could be your family member. We're all one paycheck away for being homeless. Right. But I remember seeing that also that. The Department of Justice did not confirm plans to look into the attack, although the Biden administration officials have spoken out about the incident. Robinson called for further action, however, as the release of body count footage shines further light on the events leading up to Benedict's passing.

During questioning from officials, the resource officer for Owasso High School frames the assault as a mutual fight because Benedict, of course, scored at their attackers prior to incident. He claims that the girls could choose to bring charges against Benedict if they attempt to hold the student accountable. Police have claimed that the Benedict's death was not a result of trauma, but the full autopsy, like you said before, has not yet been released.

So you have to like they like they contradicting themselves like in so many ways that it makes no sense. Like, OK, so Benedict's parents should file charges against the school.

Questioning Response to Transphobic Incident

Then as well yeah definitely like if the if the girls feel like they want to in the words of judge judy she that that that doesn't equal you yeah murdering someone because they put water on you no exactly like a splash of water is not an assault yeah like not a gremlin girl right like Like, if you go into the rain, I'm sorry. Yeah. I mean, so stupid. You got splashed, bitch. Mm-hmm. Calm down.

It is ridiculous. So I've also seen a lot of Instagram stories that a lot of people have went to Oklahoma and started to protest in front of the school and show support for next Benedict. Addict and here at the query lbc we should go ahead and just have a moment of silence and their behalf and we are sending a lot of positive energy and talks to your family and friends and we love you and miss you.

All right so i also saw that some i think a high school went uh did a walkout in oklahoma in solidarity oh yeah was this was it the same school i don't think so i thought i said tulsa oklahoma okay oh yeah that's different okay yeah because i think the school that they went to was right outside of tulsa like on the outskirts and i'm like did the girls get like nobody's talking about what happened to them yeah probably nothing right now right just sitting at home.

Urgent Call to Action for Elections

Mm-hmm that makes my fucking i mean they're gonna get protected like right oklahoma is hella transphobic obviously but like by just this action alone but you look at their laws like they've been gunning after trans people for a while so i like it makes sense something like this is going to happen here like it's like statistics like it's proven research you know the more transphobia out there the more hate out there you know the more likely people are going to to be indoctrinated

by it it's true that's fucking ridiculous that this fucking, trant like open i mean i get i already know what country we live in but like it's this fucking stupid world this is a fucking dumb country i swear to god and we're not getting any better on fucking fortunately and that's why it's important that our you know primary Primary elections are coming up and they are like mostly there's about almost like 200 Senate seats like in like available.

And the people not get down here and voting, we're voting. We are letting these motherfuckers in places and in seats that are going to be making decisions. Everybody's focused on a presidential election. We need to be focusing on these prime primary election as well. But the Senate and City Council all these seats are becoming Congress Senate all these seats are becoming available and everybody focusing on that and y'all gonna let these motherfuckers slide on in and we are just gonna be back to.

Stone Ages do you guys know what Libs of TikTok is? No, I don't even have a TikTok, so. I don't know what it is either. Well, it's just, like, that woman Chaya and, like, just, like, her spewing anti-trans things. Like, that became her shtick real quick. So she's not, like, posting other people? No, she's, yeah, I'm quite sure she's posting everything that she believes that she thinks is right.

She's been accused of spreading, like, misinformation about, like, trans people and just misinformation in general.

I hate this bitch but yeah yeah oh and then speaking of and unfortunately trans kids are going to be like the forefront of unfortunately a lot of things that's be coming up this year so kansas state have attorney general said schools must out trans kids to their parents even without a law requiring it what the fuck why does that matter to you like what does that matter to you now you're turning it into like right like illegal you're just a legal person but also but also that should be that's

almost like you should already know your fucking child, is going through things you know like so this must be like a i don't know what parents are doing in kansas but you will assume that you know what your child is doing right you should know how your child feel if you communicate and love your child this shouldn't be coming to fucking shock to you. So for the school to be wanting to out a trans kid doesn't mean that. It means that that parent isn't being a loving parent.

So child protective services should be called any fucking way. That's how I look at it. In that sense, you know what I'm saying? So like for that to be the concern for you to want to out a trans kid to a parent. You should be looking at the other pictures, like, why this parent don't already fucking know? Yeah. But also, like, let's say they out the trans kid, right? Then what? The parent is, like, gonna go to jail for child endangerment now because their kid came out trans?

Like, what's, like, what is the point? What is the, like, what's the reason? And then what? They go to what? Like, an orphanage? So they can just be trans? Because I guess you could probably be trans in the orphanage still.

I don't know. This is stupid! it's ridiculous but the Republican Attorney General Chris Cabot has ordered school districts to out transgender non-binary and gender non-conforming students to their parents saying that failing to do so is a violation of parental rights the fuck say it again yeah he said failing to do so is a violation of parental rights.

What like what that makes no sense my right to know that my child is trans even though i know what my child is doing like if they're exiting the house wearing a different gender's clothing i'm pretty sure i'm gonna notice that as the fucking parent right and if they went to this unless they're like secretly feeling so safe at your transphobic school that they change clothes like right what is this like yeah it feels very witch chunty

very right and you and you pair this with like the rays and bars and stuff like that like it's really just to kind of like out people and to identify people and but it's also like, what do you think is going to happen when you identify trans people in a transphobic like environment nothing good is going to happen to that trans person so what's the point of this.

It's also like how are you how do you become the gender police and like what becomes an alert and what doesn't you know what i mean like i have a i know a couple straight guys at my job and they have long hair that doesn't mean that they're now attempting to be another gender you know what i mean. So, like, how do they determine, like, who is being gender divergent and, like, who is needed to be told on and, like, what? Yeah.

Like, I don't understand. They're going to have to start inflicting dress codes where they're just like, you have to wear pants and you have to wear dresses and you have to keep hair long and you have to keep hair short.

Like, what? what you can't like you can't also i don't know what the teacher salaries are in kansas but i'm quite sure they ain't fucking concerned about no child fucking non-binary or a trans kids what they care about what that child is learning and what they're doing yeah as a human being i don't think they care about that if you worried about what teachers want to do pay them more than, you know i mean yeah i don't know i feel and then my fear is like okay they're identified

then what happens like i don't know it just feels like a setup for some some sort of like conversion bullshit to happen you know because be a conspiracy person because if it's like you have to if you have to be told right it's like now you need to take care of it it's kind of like well if what What did I need to be told for? Yeah. Right. Like, what are you going to do to fix this situation, I guess? Oh, we need to tell you that your son is wearing pink.

Like, okay. And? Yeah, I bought it for him. Now what? Yeah. We'll make sure they don't wear that color anymore. Like, what are you going to? Like, I don't get it. Yeah. And nothing really in the article states what happens after, what they want to happen after.

They've been told, right? Right. You know what I'm saying? like what what now okay thank you mm-hmm, Let's say there's the trans kid at the school, and the school reports it to their parent, and their parent is actually a loving parent who's supportive. Then it's like, well, thank you for letting me know, school. Okay, now what? Yeah. I mean, it's really only going to impact the trans kids who aren't in supportive environments.

Environments like a kid who has a parent behind behind them is going to be fine with this because their parents already know and the parents are probably already advocating for them in school but that that kid who has like a transphobic family like that's a different story like this is those are the people that are going to get impacted by this the most i'm almost wondering if it's like let's say they tell the the parent who's supportive and then the kid just continues

to be like trans are they going to continue to like i don't know report more things that they're doing.

I see what you're saying like y'all this is going to be cited multiple times yeah like they were cited today for wearing a skirt the next day they were cited for wearing a tube top the next time there was like high heels and this now we're going to expel them because they keep okay like offenses yeah they don't because schools do have dress codes at some point right yeah so it's like like they could probably just enforce that right because they always do that shit where it's like

oh girls can't wear skirts that are this short and it's like they'll probably just put something in the dress code being like boys can't wear girls clothes and now you we're gonna expel you because you're not following the dress code yeah hmm yeah that sucks but i guess we'll be looking out to see how that goes. Because there is no policy yet. He just wants this to happen. But hopefully that does not get passed. So remember, elections are coming up.

Importance of Political Engagement

They sure are. Who are you voting for? You guys are voting for these attorney generals. Yeah. What else is there? What are their good words? Greece legalized same-sex marriages. You want to go to Greece? From QVoice Voice News. SB 339 in California gives 90-day supply of PrEP without prescription by Philip's uncle. Californians are able to receive up to a 90-day supply of PrEP without a prescription thanks to a bill signed into law by Governor Gavin Newsom.

Woo! Go, Governor! Go, Gaviner. Gavinator. Gavi No Guns Newsom says all you gays can be sluts. It is decreed. SB 339 was signed by Newsom Tuesday and went into effect immediately. immediately. SB 339 improves Senator Scott Weiner's SB 159, the first in the nation law that allowed pharmacists to distribute PrEP without a prescription that was signed in 2019. SB 339 will also make PrEP easier for people to access.

HIV continues to take a huge toll on public health in California, and SB 339 unlocks a powerful tool to prevent new infections. Weiner, The author's bill said in the statement prep is nearly 100 percent effective at preventing HIV transmission, but far too many Californians lack access to it. Allowing people to obtain this powerful anti HIV tool at their neighborhood pharmacy will greatly expand access and a big step forward for a future free from new HIV cases.

Cases weiner was forced to pause the legislation last september after a poison and after a poison pill amendment was passed the amendment was removed and the bill restored to its previous form despite significant public health advances hiv remains a major public health challenge in california nearly 4 000 hiv diagnosis each year black and latino gay and bisexual men Black cisgender women, transgender women, and youth continue to be populations most impacted by HIV.

PrEP is a preventative drug taken orally or intravenously that reduces the risk of contracting HIV through sexual contact more than 99%, making it more effective than any other measure to prevent HIV, including condoms. Despite its incredible efficacy, fewer than 25% of the people who would benefit from PrEP are using these medications. S.B. 159 authorized pharmacies to furnish up to 60 day supply of PrEP without a prescription.

It also banned health plans from imposing step therapy and prior authorization on PrEP.

Beautiful, beautiful, beautiful. beautiful however few pharmacies have successfully used the law to furnish prep in california in surveys providers cited the fact that health plans do not cover the cost of pharmacist labor in preparing prep as a major obstacle and the 60-day window was too short to ensure referral to his primary care physician labor you mean swatting those pills into a bottle you lazy bitch lazy fuckers you're trying to save lives you piece of shit other states have successfully

Successfully implemented pharmacy-provided PrEP programs modeled on SB 159, but without its limitations. Colorado, Nevada, and Utah opted not to limit the amount of HIV-preventative medication a pharmacist can provide. In Colorado, plans must reimburse a pharmacist employed by an in-network pharmacy for prescribing and dispensing PrEP and PEP to a covered person and provide an adequate consultative fee to those pharmacists. And blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

But that's good that they are willing to do that because there are a lot of individuals, unfortunately, who don't have, you know, health care. Oh, yeah. And then also, you know, if you don't have health care and you can't get the prescription, then you can't really protect yourself if you are, you know, indulging in things. So that's actually... Indulging? You don't indulge?

Not anymore something like a judgy word it is it what i mean like okay you just i don't think that's well you know that's your opinion.

Reflections on Public Health Policies

I don't share the same concern, indulging i mean i love to indulge indulging in sex right sounds so christian oh you know you out here fucking I'm just triggered suck a dick.

But yeah because you know it's hard to because I know there is some organizations that you are able to like sign up on certain things and get free prep but also like if you don't have health care did you how do you go and get tested every three months or like make sure that you know you're doing blood work when you're on prep up to make sure that you know everything is still functioning correctly and things of that nature so that doesn't i don't know if that covers it but you know that also

has to be looked into because if you're on prep and you don't have health insurance or a prescription how are you going to get blood work to make sure that you know you are still functioning correctly in that sense that is true you know that's probably they that's probably why they only give you like two months supply so like you didn't get blood work for like your third prescription or third refill for your third refill gotta be a good idea yeah because prep is hard on your kidneys

right so you have to like get checked every few months to make sure it's not like yeah yeah, But I'm glad they're doing this. Obviously, people aren't going to stop fucking raw, so just be preventative. I mean, if it was COVID, would you be denying people fucking masks? That's true. Like, hello. Or vaccines. There's so much judgment on sex-based infections, diseases. Yeah. Like, you shouldn't be doing that. That's why you're going to get it. Like, shut the fuck up.

They should also give this to straight people right like isn't aren't straight people's rates of new infections right yeah they're the one leading up in this motherfucker they want to be on the top so that's probably why it's fucking being like let oh okay because the straights probably need it now that's when you're gonna fucking see you get cured for real when the straights fucking when they're the targets right so uh tennessee governor signs bill allowing Allowing public officials to refuse

to perform same-sex marriages. What? No. Let's see. What the hell is going on? So Governor Bill Lee signed a bill Wednesday allowing public officials to refuse to perform same-sex marriages. The state lawmaker approved Tennessee House Bill 878 last week. The legislation states people shall not be should not be required to solemnize a marriage if they refuse to doing so based on their conscience or religious belief.

According to the Tennessee Legislation website, the governor signed that bill Wednesday. Lee has not publicly commented on the bill yet per his social media and his office website. But the bill does not allow officials to deny a marriage license to couples based on their belief, but prevents officials from being required to solemnize a marriage. The state house first passed the bill in March 2023, but the state general assembly booted it 2024 for consideration.

Lee was thrown into the spotlight last year after signing a bill that became the first in the nation restriction on drug drag performance and banned gender forming health care for transgender youth. A federal judge later ruled that the restrictions on drag shows were unconstitutional. The legislation has faced criticism from LGBTQ advocacy organizations.

Molly Whitehorn, associate director for regional campaigns for the Human Rights Campaign, said last week the bill was intended to exclude LGBTQ folks from equal protection under the law. The Tennessee Republicans argued that the bill was not meant to discriminate against same sex couples or prevent them from getting married.

State senator mark potey the bill primary sponsor in the senate said on the senate floor last week that the bill has nothing to do with getting the license the hill has reached out to lee's office for further comment so this is the shit i'm talking about they literally are trying to play defense so they're saying like oh okay no you can still get the license but this person this employee of the state does not have to do it so ain't that your fucking job

so that means that there has to to be like a standby other person who can perform it for me so now i gotta go through another hoop and huddle so you can find another employee to do to like it doesn't fucking make sense but also so you telling me that an employee just because they're but how about that just opens the flood gates to all other type of religions and beliefs and consciousness why don't we just turn this into to an automated experience where i enter

my name and their name and then right just have a robot doing the fucking robot we don't need a fucking person so fuck okay you should have nothing but robots at your right license fucking humans are so fucking inept they can't fucking do a fucking simple sign a goddamn fucking paper let's get a fucking goddamn ai in the goddamn office you know how many employees there in the world that does shit that they don't fucking feel like Like doing all the time. Right? The fuck? The fuck?

So what if I have my own religion that I just fucking made up yesterday and I decide that, you know, I don't feel like giving straight couples the right because my God that I just made up said so. I could do that, right? You can. But see, but they see it as this is Tennessee. So they see it as Christian religion. So any other religion ain't really got no stand fooled on this. But like if you go into there and be like, OK, I am from the Church of Nino.

Church of Satan. okay well you know what i'm saying the house of nino writes and it's like i can't serve this redneck i can't my god said no all right it's in my holy book there's one line thou shall not serve trash it's just like that just makes you you're a trash you're a trash that's so fucking crazy listen streets i'm tired of fighting for this right to marry your patriarchal bullshit oh my god stop and then they're gonna say oh it's not intended for you not to get a license so why,

like this employee needs to do their job i don't give a fuck what they believe like how many fucking folks in tennessee aren't christians bitch i gotta get the one atheist in the whole goddamn building. Right when is when is her schedule so and i gotta get married around this bitch schedule i mean i mean i guess gays just have to get in these fucking in these fucking fucking positions.

I'll be the marriage person how's that yeah there you go, because i now also believe that that is a is that a appointed position i don't know i don't know how these things work i'm just a peon actually i don't know right the lady from because i right from kentucky yeah she was up she was voted she was appointed that position yeah yeah but she also got sued right yeah does that mean that we can still sue these people if they see but that what see but it wasn't it it wasn't uh it

wasn't in law yeah so this is probably why they're doing that so that they could get up out of trying to get sued but also look at look at it like eventually gay couple is going to try to get married in tennessee right and they're gonna be able to get it and then they're going to sue the state and this is going to go up back to the supreme court and our marriage is up for question in the supreme court that is like sway toward conservatism conservatism well

the un needs to get back here and laid some more human violations laws down girl like you know like what did that do nothing exactly what has it done nothing just just like this rainbow wall it's just validated everything that we've been saying and then nothing's happened that's all we're getting is validated validated we're getting validation not rights that's not helpful. Yes you're valid but i need my right.

Frustrations with Political System

Oh man i'm done with this country i am too i feel like i'm just trying to, i don't know what anymore i know i'm trying to get by i was sitting down trying to like figure figure out who i was going to vote for and i was just like headache headache i'm like i don't want to vote for any of these people i keep seeing the new idea is like well you know there's more ways to secure democracy other than voting and i'm like wow that's just really gonna be the answer right can't vote just don't

vote yeah like i literally got in the mail a cop a voter guide i'm like i'm just gonna vote opposite right of this because that's the right probably choice that probably is the right choice the opposite of whatever that is i've been seeing like smudge, commercials for katie porter i was like isn't she the only good one she is i think a genocide denier shut up yeah or she's like pro-israel or something along those lines damn it yeah Yeah,

it's I can't with anyone in that's in power now because they're all they've all been like pro-Israel genocide deniers. Yeah. Okay folks time to rise up.

You either gotta rise up or you gotta lay back just let the boots stamp on your face yeah i think the only person in power that's spoken up against the genocide has been rishi talib right from michigan okay and she's telling her constituents not to vote for biden it's pretty badass, but it's also like who else i mean there's like who else are they gonna vote for you know i'm about third party i get that privilege because i'm i mean in california right but that ultimately means if you're

saying you get that privilege because you live in california you that means that you think that'll just go blue anyways yeah so it's not a privilege because you're still gonna not win i'm still gonna be in the system yeah i'm gonna be fucked yeah either way that's true help us oh jesus jesus well is that it for the quick tease i think that's it for these quick teas i think these queens need a break yeah i'm fading break time.

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Introduction to Chemsex Discussion

And we're back. So today at Queer LBC, we are going to talk about chem sex. That is being under the influence with drugs, alcohol, type of drugs in order to have sex. Oh, chem sex. Have you got, yeah, chem sex. So have you guys do, and I know like there's some people that have to have it and have to do or be under the influence to have sex, I'm assuming. But have you guys indulged? Whoa, I forgot that's a trigger word. Have you guys...

I mean, if it's drugs, I would say indulge is fine. Have you guys partaked in chemsex? When you say the word chemsex, it makes me think of literally meth or injecting heroin. I mean, that's part of it, too. It's the spectrum of chemsex.

But I mean, I'm not going to say that I've done chemsex, because then it makes it sound like i've literally done that no i have not done i've not injected heroin into myself while on sex but i can't say that i have not had sex with an individual who wasn't like okay like under some heavy influence of themselves were you because i know a lot of people say like no drugs like but i do how did you feel like were you comfortable as well yes.

Well let's just say like i guess i myself had always i'm always under i've been always been under the influence of drug while i was doing sex but not just drugs what i mean is like alcohol like i definitely like because when i was younger i was always drinking and then it was kind of like Whenever I was going to hook up with a guy, a lot of the times it was after I had met him at a club or a bar where I was already drinking and drunk.

But then even when I started hooking with guys at my house through the apps or whatever, I would just get drunk anyways. I would drink beforehand. Okay. But off of them, like, hey, do you want something to drink? No, I would just drink. No, no, no. Pre-game. Yeah, just pre-game. before they showed up we gave it for this but it would even be like at like 11 in the morning and then so like I mean I was doing like crazy shit back then wow.

God, now I just feel, like, deep diving into, like, psychotic behavior. I feel like it's, like, that's so far, like, but not really. Because I still, like, even today, like, when me and my boyfriend are about to, like, get down, like, I'll still smoke out before. And, like, he'll take, like, a hit before. And it's, like, or, like, sometimes, like, I'll know that he wants to, like, get freaky. Because then he'll, like, he'll have, like, a glass of wine. Because he doesn't really drink.

Okay. But like when he does drink, then it's kind of, it's almost like a hint to me that he like wants to like play around later. And I'm like, okay. I'm trying to open up the channels. I see. Because I feel like he's more reserved when it comes to sex. So. And I feel like that's probably why a lot of people may partake in like a little bit of alcohol or a little bit of weed too.

Right. right offset the little imbalance of like nervousness and then like oh awkwardness probably just like oh just give me a shot give me a shot fuck it right because i feel like sex isn't like.

It is shamed a lot so i feel like a lot of people have like interesting relationship with it because like it's pleasurable but a lot of people judge it and like place so much like negativity on it it as well you know like you have to like turn off a portion of your brain to let yourself feel comfortable doing these i guess debaucherous acts right and then throw in like it being like gay sex too yeah your history of that you know because i

feel like i guess i can just go through my history so like yeah when it was like when i was younger i barely i didn't start drinking until i was was actually after i was 21 it was just like random no i swear to god no for real like i never started i didn't i didn't want to drink because i like i had like a lot of drug addicts and alcoholics in my family so i wanted to steer away from it and then i had gotten like drunk for the first time with my first boyfriend and then like we would get drunk a

lot and then have sex and it was great it was fun because i don't know we're young and dumb and just drunk right having having sex and then we would just we would like drink fucking those bj drinks that boone's farm oh they're like wine coolers and then just like watch. A movie and like get like blacked out and like have sex with each other that was good times like you know what those were some good old days.

So that was like always a thing and then, but we didn't always have to get drunk to have sex and then. Yeah, because I remember when I was with my girlfriend before that, I wasn't, we weren't drinking or doing any kind of drugs at all. And then, yeah. And then, then when I became single, then yeah, I would like hook up with dudes and I would just like get drunk beforehand. Like at any time I would be like, oh, I need to like at least have like a shot.

So I can at least like, I don't know, loosen up. Because I'm also meeting a stranger. So I'm also like kind of like nervous and just like need to get out of it. And then, yeah, it was always kind of like that. And then, yeah, if I were to go on a date with somebody and I would hook up with them, it would be like I would have to get drunk.

Uh-huh. Yeah. Like, I feel like I think I've also probably followed that suit because actually when I was in the closet, when I was not out yet, I would feel myself having to make sure that I was intoxicated. Uh-huh. You know what I'm saying? Or had a head change of some kind. Right. so it was just like oh shit like and then if i go to the dude's house like you know we just gonna have drinks and shit and just chill and relax and then boom get to it but i feel like now.

I can do that but i also feel like i don't want nobody i want somebody to be in a clear mind because i don't want you to wake up the next day like oh my god like i would hate for most like oh shit like i'm sorry i was drunk uh-huh well fuck you you know i'm saying like uh and so when people hit on me when they're drunk uh-huh i don't know how to take that because i also feel like you know at this point you got your beer goggles on so yeah which version of this am i yeah like.

Even though i should just go for it uh-huh i also don't want to wake up and be like oh, damn now my self-esteem fucked up that was your mistake right but there's also a certain level of like safety with that too right like if the person's more intoxicated than you that's also so true that mean i'm responsible for you and want to make sure because i don't want you to i don't want nothing to happen so i want to also make sure that you know you sober up and,

i was also kind of like always getting way drunk so i feel like i was also that one who was the one who was getting more wasted than the other person oh okay well you was pre-gaming of course oh yeah but even if they were like joining me on the drink like i always had to get like a little extra more in because i feel like i just need i don't know why i always just felt like i need some kind of like lubricant to like socially get me going okay just in general yeah yeah

just like at end i yeah because i feel like i can't even raw dog like friendships social situations where where there is no sex expectation. Like, I feel like I still need that, like at all social moments. So maybe, yeah, it's not even, or like, yeah. For sex, it's just like another part of it. Yeah. Yeah. But then I also was not, I was definitely not scared to, like, hook up with, like, people who were partying. Like. As long as they know. Yeah. Their limits. Yeah.

Like, I definitely hooked up with a bunch of, like, meth heads in my career. Really? Of, like, gay sex. I've always wondered this. What does meth do to one person when they're engaging in sex?

Well from what i've heard because i've never done it but from what i've heard is that if to them it feels like poppers just like infinity and it's just like a never-ending popper spree and that's kind of like why these guys are like just like on for like the entire like night and they're just getting like pounded by like a million dudes and just like going going going going yeah Or even like tops too, right?

Yeah, I think so. Because I've definitely gone to a million shitty hotel rooms where there's some methed out bottom. I don't even know what number dude I am, just like pounding them. Oh, damn. Okay, yeah. So that's there. I guess I always thought it was exciting, dangerous feeling.

Feeling and so like i would even like like oh yeah like i never did coke either but i would definitely like get excited to like hook up with like people who are doing coke and like i had this friend who like i had a bunch of like la friends who were all doing coke and like one of them was saying like he snorted coke on some guy's dick and i was like what the fuck dude i was like okay what is that's a thing it is a thing and then so then i got excited by that idea and so whenever there

were like dudes who were doing coke i was like yeah you can start off my dick and so then i remember i hooked up with this dude who had coke and then he did that and then like he snorted it off my dick in my apartment and then i fucking fucking see it on his phone picturing him and his wife and kids i'm like oh hell no i mean he said ain't nothing but a dick and a line i remember the first time that happened to me i was in nashville and i was still nope i was in cleveland Sorry.

Was I? Yeah, I was in Cleveland. And some guy, like, we was on the, I think it was, like, fucking Adam for Adam or some shit. That's how long ago. These are so stupid. Stupid as fuck. So he's like, all right, you know, hook up. And literally opened up the door. Boom, boom, pal. Then he was like, can I do a line of coke on your dick? I was like, what? Like, I ain't never touched a shit yet. I don't even, I was like, what? Like, uh, I guess. And he did it. I was like, all right, well, let's go.

So yeah that was that was fucking crazy does it make like your your dick numb or it doesn't do anything to mine right like because if they do it right you really don't feel it oh okay okay just clear it right i think it's just for like the scene of it all right yeah, or that's how they did it and they cleaned it off yeah just like you know shit that's how it starts starts to lead way into the foreplay okay okay it's so funny but yeah so like i've definitely

watched guys like do meth oh my god there was one time i hooked up with this fucking meth dude and he fucking blew it in my face what and i was like because he was like tell me he was trying to get me to do it with him and i was like no no no i'm not gonna do it with you and i was like i you can do it that's fine but i'm not gonna do it and he was like no you really should i was like shut the like fuck you and then he blew it in my face and i was just like i

just like held my breath and i was just like waited for like the smoke to clear and i was just like i was pissed and then did you leave oh it was my place so i basically had to kick him out but he was already messed up so he was like energized now and so he didn't want to fucking leave and i had a mouth i he got like you you could tell that he was pissed, but I was like, what the fuck? I'm pissed. Yeah. Right. I told you I don't want to do it. And then you go to my face like it's fucking cute.

I was like, now I would have popped your ass. So I kicked him out and he left. I was like, what the fuck? Stupid meth hack, bitch. Meth head out of my fucking apartment. It wouldn't be the first time. Yeah. And that's probably, and that's probably why you see a lot of people that, you know, like they advertise like no drugs because they probably had like a fucking bad experience with somebody that was like fucking high as fuck.

And now you put my fucking living situation in fucking jeopardy or some other crazy shit I've had bad experiences too where I'm fucking hooking up with some fucking psycho method and so and then they want to just like all of a sudden, change personalities and like get crazy and it's like all of a sudden they just want to like.

I don't know get loud and like get like attacking you almost and it's like what the fuck like what is going on bitch like yeah the fuck i remember i was hooking up with this one guy and then yeah he like he just like changed all of a sudden he was just like stop stop and i was like what the fuck and then he was just like i'm gonna get loud i'm just like what i like my dad is like in the room asleep i'm like uh can you shut the fuck up but the psycho meth head is actually was the same

person who introduced me to poppers which is like okay and then when i first tried poppers i was like holy shit i was like great now i'm one of these disgusting gays who does poppers so i mean because i mean some people had to have poppers to uh-huh to do the damn yeah to get off yeah, because i was you know there's a i guess a porn theme or a porn subject what is it called like like popper baiting a popper bait it was just like motherfuckers just training yourself to.

Do poppers why training yourself so interesting like a marathon right right yeah so i remember the second time that i had tried it was this guy this like older guy and like he was like give like this older white guy in like hollywood somewhere he was giving me a blow job and then And he asked, he was like, oh, can I do this? Because I feel like at the time, it was more seedy. Yeah. Because it wasn't popular like it is now. And it was barely on the rise again.

And I feel like people who were doing it seemed like gross guys from the 70s. And it was only nasty old men did that shit, allegedly. But then, so he asked me, is it okay if I do it? And I was like, oh, shit. I want to try that again. And then I was like I've been looking for some of this shit And then I felt like I was seeing stars.

Yeah well essentially like lowers your blood pressure right so everything feels like so much more and i think that's what all the drugs do but i remember i didn't start doing puppers until like my late 20s yeah i think that's when it was yeah so i was kind of a late bloomer to it i remember the first i remember i saw it and i was like nah that's a bit too much you know and then like the second time it was very tempting so i tried it and it was it was just like the

first hit you ever take is like the best hit you'll ever have in your life and after that you're just chasing that shit right exactly because it's never the same because it's never been the same yeah and the first hit when you open a new bottle right yeah i don't know i feel see i feel seedy talking about it but i like it i think like in doses like it kind of helps enhance the experience i definitely feel like i would probably give myself brain damage if i like let myself do it as much

as i want to because yeah because i like it but it's like every guy that i've ever like been with is always like i don't like it and i'm like god damn it i mean yeah it gives me a headache for my own good i know it always gives people a headache they say but it doesn't really do that to me it don't yeah i don't get a headache either maybe like off of like a certain brand certain brands give you oh. Yeah and i also somebody else's i'm gonna be old as hell yeah yeah so keep them in the.

Freezer i heard or something like that i hear so many things my old gay friend he had told me that you put them in the microwave for like 10 seconds and then they like renew and then it does really i don't know about putting glass with the explosive yeah you gotta really I actually. Would not recommend that to anybody Do not try that Do you have like a favorite brand of poppers? Definitely Rush Or Jungle Juice What about you?

They're this my favorite actually doesn't have like a name is legit just like a brown bottle with a white label on it and it's all like a warning sign.

And they actually saw it like a like i think like the purple onion like like somewhere on like pch i think i think it's somewhere around there okay yeah as they only have it there yeah or double scorpion and too bad it's probably like corrosive to the skin oh yeah well yeah you can't like get it on you have you ever spilled it on yourself oh no yeah, it's fucking scary as fuck right straight to the back yeah shower my god yeah

i didn't wear like i I spilled it and it like went up my nose. Oh, yeah. And I was like, I gotta go like rinse this and like burn. Oh, yeah. Yeah, because I was late to Pauper World. I didn't know about Pauper's until I got to California. I don't understand the people who do it in the club. Oh, yeah. So since, I mean, I may have done it a few times in the club just because, oh, okay, why not? I don't think it does nothing. But at that point, I was already cross-faded. So it's like.

I feel like you're straight girls doing that. Yeah. Like they're trying to have fun doing poppers. I'm like, why? You're not getting anything out of it. You're in the club not having sex. I was legit at a club and I was dancing.

Seeing and then i get a whiff of poppers i'm like the fuck like and i look around and it's these straight girls like putting the cap on the rush bottle it's so funny because those big ass bottles you see and it's like that's gonna go dead yeah not even a third of the way through exactly yeah, by the small bottles exactly have y'all tried like the aerosol spray version of poppers no that's just too dangerous it's like maximum impact oh no it's called like so like do you like spray it into your

nostril no you like spray it on like a rag oh okay okay okay you huff it it's like legit like old school middle school huffing i mean i feel like there was this guy that i hooked up with and he legit i was saying i want to say was just huffing dust off and he was i mean it's the same thing and then he was like trying to get me to do it and i was like. I was almost down. I was like, this is not good for me to try.

So I'm not going to. I was like, just say no. Just say no. Because I feel like I may try. I would like to think that I'm open-minded enough in different ways that I would like try anything once before I try to like knock it. But yeah, like I feel like meth. Don't knock it till you try it. You know, like those type of things.

It's just like, you know what? Like I'm good. like you know like i know what it's gonna do right yeah i stick to the basics drugs i was talking to somebody too and they was like they was on i hear that to like when you're on, molly that you really shouldn't have sex because it intensifies it so much and it's just like you will always want to crave that feeling again and it'll just ruin sex for you i get it i also heard that you can't have an orgasm while you're doing it.

Yes. So just like build and build. Yeah. So like if you Right. So ironically so when I was in one of my excursions in Mexico City I was partaking in Molly and then when I went to the Belf House I was just fucking like a jackrabbit but I could not come. And I was like oh my god like I'm just fucking all these dudes. And I can't even let it out. Sometimes that happens to me when I do poppers. Like, I can't come. That's the only time I can't come is, like, if I do poppers with somebody else. Okay.

With somebody else or you just do it and they like y'all both on poppers and that's what you can't that's why you can't do it or y'all just both do it and then you just know me like if i do poppers well i'm just drinking off oh then i can get off still okay which is random yeah, okay i know weird that's interesting but yeah like i didn't know those type of things so like when i was talking to my friends and shit the next day i was

like dude like i was just fucking and all these sexy ass dudes and I couldn't even fucking buzz. They was like, yeah, because you was on Molly all night. I was like, ah. That makes sense. When did that effect wear off? How long did that last? It lasted until I got probably the rest of that day. Oh, thank you. Yeah, because I also didn't try again, which I should have. So I probably walked around with blue balls.

Um but yeah like i feel that especially if you go to like bathhouses i feel like you need to have a little bit of a a drink or two to be i mean how could you go to that shit sober right i mean i'm quite sure there's people that do those are the weirdos i think going to a fucking in a bathhouse sober? Jesus. Clear-minded. Come here. No thanks. What else? I have also been privy to guys doing injectable drugs in front of me. What's the... Oh, like... Heroin or... Oh, okay.

I was confused because I was like, I mean, I don't know much about these hard drugs, but I didn't know that you could inject meth. Oh, yeah. See, I always thought, yeah, I thought it was injectable. So it's both ways, injectable and smoke.

Yeah yeah oh i think you can also probably do it probably some other ways yeah but but like when oh my god like one time i actually hooked up with this guy that was using meth but i didn't know so like he was obviously behind me and i was facing that way not him and he pulls out like his pipe but like i couldn't turn around to see what he pulled out and from what i saw it looked like a regular like weed bowl but it wasn't because i found out it wasn't when he like turned on the

a torch because to like that way like you need to like heat it up so he did that i was like oh fuck but then he burned me with his little pookie what yeah like right on purpose oh no like an accident oh sure yeah psycho he's gonna get a mark yeah so i'm just like oh i'm done thank you oh you burned me yeah literally i am good thank you don't know it yeah yeah but yeah because what other because g h b is one too right oh yeah have you done that i've never

done that no i haven't done that is that it.

Is injectable is that that's like a pill it's like a tab i think it's a drink yeah it's like a little tincture but you can put it on like a paper and put on it's like lsd type of thing oh but i hear like that can be that's very potent so you get to like be very precise with how much you take because you can it can kill you yeah i heard it can kill you if you mix it with alcohol yeah like you can't you can't like mix it with other things because i remember i'm

a mixer there's this one man that i hooked up with in hollywood again and he was talking about wanting to do ghb and like i wanted to at the moment but then i was like oh wait i'm gonna die because i already drank before i just got here so i was like i'm I'm gonna, and he wanted me to do his, I was like, but will you die if you drink? He was like, yeah. I was like, well, I just drank. I was like, but I want you to try it. I was like, but I'm gonna die, you dumb bitch.

Even in your own words, motherfucker. I'm like, hello. Yeah. Stupid ass. But here, like, that has, like, similar effects to, like. Like meth where you're like super horny. Everything feels very pleasurable. Like your sex drive is just like off the charts. Yeah. I've never tried it, but that's what I hear. Okay. And people like do it a lot for like sex parties or like those Atlantis cruises. I'm sure there's a lot of people on G during those cruises. I need to sign up

for that. I've never been on a gay cruise. I know. I'm going to put that on my agenda. I want to go on one. That looks fun. We might have to take Queer LBC to the ships. Oh my God. That would actually be fun if we like did a huge...

Reporting live from the orgy from the top deck top dick so those are basically the only drugs that i've i'm quite sure there's a lot more but i know like in the gay community when lgbtq plus well i'm gonna keep it gay because i don't think well you know i mean it's not like i mean it's a bad thing right because i mean i do know a lot of gay guys who got like hooked on me oh yeah oh yeah and then like they ended up contracting hiv oh and it's kind

of like it can turn into like a really like vicious cycle because you start on one thing and then you do another thing and then you do another thing yeah that's why i just told myself don't do anything, like the hardest thing that i do is weed i mean i guess i don't think this which i feel like it's vcr cleaner i mean i've done yeah don't say poppers that sex shop video cleaner i've done harder drugs what have you done i mean i would probably say like i've i mean probably like the.

Cocaine okay how am i a little bump like a bump or two how was it for you i mean it's cool and you know because i like to drink so i just like you know shit it just keeps me going i like i I don't need to continuously do it. So I think I'm like, I'm blessed in one way in regards of like, I don't have like a addictive personality per se that I know that like I can quit something if need be. That's why I always told myself no. Cause I'm like, I have my personality is way too addictive.

Oh, okay. And I already know that about myself. See, and that's good that you know that because some people will continue to say, you know, I just give it a try. I'm like, fuck. But yeah, Yeah, so that's probably, and then, you know, like, probably, like, Mali. But I think, I don't know the levels of it, but, you know. Actually, no, that's a lie. I did try half of a, I don't know if it was supposed to be a Mali or an Ecstasy at the time. Oh, okay.

It was the recession when everybody was doing those kinds of things to the house music. but it was my friend she got it from she got it from our other podcasters dad and. And I don't even think it worked. I don't even think it was real. Because I tried half of it. Because I was so scared. I was like. And then I tried half of it. And then nothing happened. And then. You probably was zipped in a motherfucker. So I was like. What the fuck?

And they also told me that I can't drink while I'm doing it. So I wasn't really drinking. I was like. Okay. Nothing's happening. So it was very upsetting. It was not. So yeah. Nothing really happened. So yeah. Basically the hardest thing I've done is like weed. And alcohol. I haven't actually even smoked a cigarette. Actually, I think I might have accidentally smoked a hit off of a cigarette that I thought was supposed to be a blunt. Like a joint. Like a spliff. Yeah.

And then it fucked me up, and I was like, what the fuck was that? Oh, you took a big puff. And I was upsetting. But yeah, I don't know. Yeah. I'm a goody two-shoes. Good for you. I'm California sober. Because I don't really drink anymore. I used to drink like a motherfucker. And then now I really don't drink at all.

It's just not worth it actually the way that i stopped drinking was because i switched to weed because it was like i drank so much that it like wore off and i couldn't really get drunk now you can really high tolerance and then i didn't have enough money because it was expensive, so you want to drink you was drinking top shelf you want to drink in the bottom shelf oh no i was drinking the bottom shelf i was poor it was still too expensive

screw immune to it I'm like, all I have money is for one pomp off. That's going to last me the week and it's only going to last me two days. But I like drinking when you having sex. Have you ever hooked up with anybody who was doing crazy drugs? No. So that's why I like I I don't understand it. Not crazy drugs, but, you know, just like weed and drinking. But like, you know, like hardcore shit. No, at least I didn't know that they were under it.

So I don't really have any except the one dude who did coke off my dick.

Mm hmm. but also like have you, wanna I don't know if I want to share this but you know what fuck it, I like to take shots of liquor at a you know what never no you're saying it bitch like you know like you ever like do body shots off a dude's ass okay, yeah is that what you be doing those are the best you be drinking alcohol of this dude's asshole yeah or he's gonna put his tongue in it right might as well well i mean it serves two purposes a nice little buzz a

little bit oh my god you just reminded me of this guy that i hooked up with that we put like vodka up his ass because you know how they say like it's supposed to get you drunk it's supposed to get you drunk oh yeah so we like experimented with that and saw if that could work he got really wasted but and we hooked up with some other dude at the same time we got like a third guy in there it was crazy nice that sounded like fun.

I mean even if like the more innocent hookups that i've had i feel like all, most of the guys that i've hung out with or drank with or or dated or fucked they all were down to get wasted too and it didn't feel really like i was.

Like being different okay yeah because i feel like a lot of people would already be on that vibe too like trying to get drunk right and let's and let's be honest here like we're not saying that you need to i mean because we have all had sober sex so like right i mean i know i'm trying to think of when i've had sober sex so like you know when was last time i mean that was when i was in in a relationship so that was years and years ago and that's some you had to sober sex no weed either probably

like last week nothing okay yeah oh that was like right around that time because i feel like even because like if i want sex from my boyfriend i feel like Like, if I'm at the point where, like, I'm asking for it or, like, initiating, I'm probably already stoned. Anyways. Oh, okay. But then if he comes on to me, then I actually will pause him and be like, wait a minute. Oh. Let me go get a smoke in real quick. And he'll be like, all right.

Because I remember even just like this last weekend, that's what happened. I was like, hold on. Oh, yeah. Because you're just coming at me and I'm like raw. And I'm like. Give me some protection. I'm like, you had minutes to think about this before. Right. You just, you can't just bring this on him. Right. He should. Because I was asleep already. Oh, damn. Oh, yeah. And I told him, I'm like, you'd love to wait to like a last minute. I'm like. I just want you to just roll on. Asleep. Just like,

bah. ah don't wake me up after you come in in the bed that's funny yeah yeah so that's i mean, i guess rock and roll drugs sex and alcohol gold i mean it just makes it a little fun yeah there's nothing wrong with especially if you're doing it in moderation and sometimes it would bother me like not bother me but like it would worry me when i would see somebody like doing a little too much and i'd be like yikes then no it actually just turned on i just made it turn on

myself because i would be like oh they need to get so drunk because i'm not cute and they don't like me so that's why they're getting so because i remember there was this one guy that i had met and he was like a cute older guy and we went back to his place his boat.

And he's like my boat daddies and i feel like a million of you listening probably been to the same boat i have a fucking marina pacifica anyways so this guy you will know him because Because he's a fucking giant bong and he like never stopped smoking out of it. And I wasn't like really smoking back then. And so like he would like not stop hitting the bong like every second. So he was getting it was like he was like it's like you couldn't breathe oxygen. He had to breathe weed.

Like I smoke a lot of weed. But like it was like.

Almost obnoxious like his lung was the bong and it was like oh my god why are you smoking so like either it doesn't work bro like the weed doesn't work or like something's going on where you need to smoke that fucking much but like i don't know i was just like are you okay like do you even like me because you have to get that high yeah that you have to be blacked out i was that's what my my thought was is that he needed a blackout but obviously it wasn't even working if he

had to smoke that much like like that's true and i'm pretty i don't know i feel like even just saying this story is just people would just know who the fuck he is big fucking bong rips and the boat in marina you know who he is anyways yeah but it i mean ultimately looking back on him like i i don't find him that concerning but at the time it was a little jarring okay because i wasn't like experienced in that way so yeah i definitely

feel like if the other person is like not is like on your level it can be probably really scary for them that's true that's weird yeah Yeah. And I guess I also wonder like. Because obviously there's an element of like using to like elevate the experience of sex, right? Yeah. But we also know that drugs like numb feelings or make it easier to kind of like let down your inhibitions.

So I also wonder like how much of like people's like self-worth or like internalized homophobia necessitate the need to use substances and to be comfortable with like doing sex acts. Exactly. Yeah. Especially being gay and then going into gay sex.

Yep. gotta get your mind out of it that's true, but I want to do people have to like if they was going to, jack off to porn to gay porn like would they have to get drunk or is this I think it's just like the act with another human being or another man per se will, I mean I feel like if you're at that point you're probably just like either just an addict you know what I mean where like Like a sex addict? No, just like an addict of whatever that vice is.

Because then if you needed to jerk, you probably didn't even need to jerk off. You're probably just doing it. Right before, right? Or I don't know. I don't know what I'm saying. I'm not a doctor. Doctor's doctor. What was your statement? But I feel like I also would need to do that because I felt self-conscious just in general.

Like body self-conscious and being like that's also true uh-huh yeah that was also big in the community all bodies matter they do matter, but yeah definitely like the nervousness of like being naked in front of somebody yeah it's kind of like especially somebody you don't know who you're meeting for the first time who you've sent literally the best pictures to not the worst one you know what I have started doing on purpose I start sending the ugliest pictures I take. Right.

Because then I know that... They're down. Right. I expected an ugly guy. You're too cute. I'll be mad. Thanks. I feel like that would be a better compliment to be like, oh, you're cuter than your pictures. Oh, yeah, that's true. Your ugly ass pictures. I used to be like, your pictures don't give you justice. I was like, thank you. I know. But then I feel like, I don't know. No, I feel like pictures can also confuse that person into being like, oh, maybe they are ugly.

I feel like, I don't know, people's brains are- That's also true, yeah. They get framed. A lot of people still love using filters, so you also really never know until you see a person in person. That's true. Catfishing's a thing. Still a thing at 224. 224. Anything else on chem sex? No. If you do engage, do it with safety. Mm-hmm. No PNP. Come on. Dude, you know, like, I was so new to the game. Blowing clouds. And I was like, what is P?

Because somebody was saying, like, they was like, oh, you want to party and play? I was like, fuck yeah. Let's go ahead and get some drinks. Fuck around and play and shit. Right. Let's do this. What's the theme? It's a Mario costume. So I remember that, like.

And so then it was like cool like you you know where we can get some i said get some what like the liquor so i can stop at the liquor store on the way to the crib like it's like no like some drugs i was like oh oh that's pnp yeah oh weed no i don't right i don't i don't party and play, that way that's funny i drink and party baby yeah that's i did not know what pnp was yeah yeah was pmp a particular drug or was this i think it was referring to myth to me yeah just it's just like

the shorter way of saying party and play or they talk about tina tina or blowing cloud yeah or the diamond emoji oh yeah diamonds it was funny because i would like i was like booed up for like a long time and then i when i came back into the scene and i saw like the diamond I was like, what is that? I was like, that's a new one. Yeah. The rose. What is that? I think it's the rose for people who are gen or accept gen. Oh, I think so. Something like that. Something to do with being people.

Generous. Oh, generous. It's like, gee. Are you generous? Because I'm desperate. Right. That should be my fucking desperate. In need. But yeah, that's it for chem sex. Anything else you guys on the good old chemical sexual experience.

Don't do drugs ladies and gentlemen don't do poppers don't do any of the drugs that we have mentioned on this show we do not condone sex or drugs or alcohol or anything, not held liable be your own people be your own person oh this is the end of our show guys so here at queer lbc we appreciate you listening hope to get five stars from you guys and, it's my first and last time hosting you did such a great job so here at queer lbc we love you we care for you you are loved

you are cared for and we'll see you next time peace out Good night, Love you good night Go take your prep.

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