Certain portions of what you're about to hear have been dramatized based on real life events, eyewitness accounts, and court records. I confront the Irish heiress Mayor Smith in a downtown Los Angeles parking garage for conning me out of seventy thousand dollars. You've been scamming us out of money this whole time. You have the police, they aren't doing anything about it. So I start my own investigation and uncover victim. Even after victim, yes, two thousand dollars after victim like
a PayPal credit card. I wouldn't never, but looking at the charges, it was notorious. Near when I cut ties with Mayor Smith in the parking garage that day. From here on end, we're not friends. I know she's dating an engineer in Newport Beach named Bob, and I'm betting I just know she's scamming him, just like she's scamming me. I don't have a phone number or even a last name for Bob, but I know I have to reach
him somehow, so I start a blog. I realized that the chances of Bob actually finding my blog are slim to none, until one day my phone rings Hello, it's Bob calling. Turns out Mary Smith is pulling her biggest and most spectacular con job yet. I'm Jonathan Walton, and this is Queen of the Con Episode four, The Engineer. When you post something online, you never really know how it will be received. I get into unintentional political arguments with friends on face Book all the time. And the
crime and the yangs and the drugs. He was on the cutting edge of civil rights when at Marrow Lago. First, I buy stuff on Craigslist that turns out to be total junk. I leave detailed and pointed reviews on Yelp that are flagged for violating their terms of service. How is describing a vegan restaurant's bathroom as an abomination against
the rules? But my blog about con artist Mere Smith feels like the most important thing I'll ever post online in my entire life, and I desperately hope it will save a man named Bob, a complete stranger, from certain disaster. If Bob hadn't found your blog when he did, I don't know what would have happened. It would have been just devastating. Sarah Coffin is Bob's nanny taking care of his two kids from two thousand nine to two sixteen.
She's a thirtysomething former preschool teacher with a passion for crafting costumes and Renaissance festivals. And she loves kids, especially Bob's kids, and they love her in a weird way. You kind of raised his kids with him, Yeah right, Yeah, No, I was a big part of their didn't they feel like your kids? I love those freaking kids so much.
They're just It's September of Mayor Smith is deep in the process of scamming me out of seventy tho dollars when she starts dating Bob, an engineer in Newport Beach, an affluent seaside town in Orange County, about an hour's drive south of Los Angeles. How did you meet, Mayor? Okay, so Bob asked me to stay late one night when I was babysitting because he was on a date. So he brings her back to the house because they had like four bottles of wine or something, and she was
too drunk to drive home. And I'm not sure how much of that was an act and how much was reality with her, because I'm not sure of anything with her anymore, but I think she ended up spending the night at his house, not like in the guest room, not like in his bed or anything, because the kids were home, and that was like a big fucking deal because he doesn't want to have women kids. Yeah, so he was. Let me just say this about Bob. Bob is one of the nicest human beings I have ever
come in contact with. He is a really good guy. And when I met her, it was so awkward. I was like, Okay, I'm gonna go like now that you're back, and he's like, no, no, no, hang out and meet my new friend Mayre. So picture it. Bob's kids are asleep in their rooms and Sarah Bob end up seemingly inebriated Mayor smith Or in living room, making uncomfortable small talk, and Mayor's using that breathy Blanche Dubois street car named desire kind of voice. I've always depended on the kind strange.
I mean, I drink, but it's definitely a different thing to be sober when somebody has really really drunk around you. It's like, oh, this is boring. I just wanted to go home, but we started talking about hockey and she invited me to a King's game. Wait a minute, you just met her and she invited you to a Kings game. She's like, oh, I can totally get into a King's game anytime. Let's go, you know, we can go tomorrow
or something. It was it was really quick. I was like, what, I just met you, lady, but I went because my huge Kings So she targeted you immediately. Oh yeah. It was like, oh, I can get at her with this, and and Bob I know that the hockey thing was like, oh, you know I haven't in here. Yeah. Mayor certainly has a powerful in here because Bob and his nanny, Sarah, are rabid hockey fans, and Mayor quickly lets them know that she actually grew up with hockey legend Garth Snow,
the manager of the New York Islanders. M M. I didn't know Garth Snow grew up in Ireland, and she's also best friends with Jack Capuano, the Islanders head coach. Jack would text her and she'd show you the texts Jack would text me. It was pretty quick because you know, oh, I've been led into the inner circle of Mayor's friends and that kind of makes you feel special. Yeah, well, I mean hockey celebrities, you know kind of. I was like,
that's pretty cool, you know. And those hockey celebrities are texting Bob too, developing a fast and deep friendship, all the while telling him what an amazing woman Mayor is, and they hope that he's not just after her at five million euro inheritance. I mean, of course he's not. Bob's no schlub himself either. Successful engineer, you know, he's very successful, right, like the stuff that he's developed. Yeah, he's like a tech I don't want to digress, but engineer.
He's responsible for a lot of like touchscreen phones. That's Bob's baby, and he's well he owned. He told me that, and I was like, get out. He's like, no, really, yeah, I hope develop the technology for that. I was like, Jesus Christ. So he does well in Newport Beach. He owns two homes, not one two. Yeah, and before long Bob and Mayor are in a serious relationship. She's actually recorded talking about Bob to one of her victims. There was a scientific study shown. Bob told me this with Apple.
The reason Apple shows that dot dot dot is the person when you're texting gets a notification pay attention to this, and it gets your attention. Dot dot dot gets your attention. So the creators at Apple who do the processors, did that dot dot dot showing up on the bubble to make you pay attention to what's coming. Mayor tells Bob she works as a child custody investigator for l A County. Yeah, she's an Irish heiress worth millions, but she likes helping
kids and giving back. And Mayor offers to help Bob because she has inside information that Bob's ex wife, Kelly, is endangering his children. She made it out like a bunch of shady ship was going on over at Kelly's. Shady is an understatement. Mayor made it seem as if they were abusing the kids, like this pedophile ring kind of thing. Like right that Bob's ex wife was running a B D s M club out of her house
while the kids were there. The private investigator that was working with Mayor on Bob's case would text Bob and Mayor I found out attached to the phones she's running a B D s M sex ring out of the house in front of the kids. This is great, we can get the kids taken away from her Bob is really disturbed by these revelations, and he leans on Mayor for help more than ever. And Bob's nanny, Sarah, she suddenly pushed out of the picture entirely. So, how did
Mayor get you fired? I was telling Mayor about stuff, Bob, stuff that's essentially it. And he's like, I can't believe you told her about me dating so and so. And I was like, well, I said you went on a date two years ago or whatever. There were no details there. And then the guys were harassing him, the guys, you know, the hockey guys. And he's like, I don't even know how they know about this stuff. And I'm like, I
did not tell these guys. Oh, so Bob thinks you're telling Garth and telling Jack all these hockey his private business. Mayor was only pretending to be Sarah's best friend to pump her for information about Bob, stuff about his former girlfriends, his finances, his ex wife. Stuff only Sarah new. And when the hockey celebrities start texting Bob with knowledge of that private information, Bob feels betrayed by Sarah and that
Mayor's urging. He fires her and angry that she took me, and mostly that she ruined this relationship that I had with this family, like I'd known them for so long and been close for so long, and for her to come in so fast and hard and just fuck everything up incredibly was just amazing to me, Like that she was that destructive, that fast, and that yes, oh my gosh,
so evil, but that evil has genius underpinnings. What Sarah and I eventually figure out all the texts from those hockey celebrities that she and Bob keep receiving, it was a constant barrage aren't really coming from hockey celebrities at all. They're coming from Mayor, as are the texts from the private investigator working with Mayor in her capacity as a child custody advocate to bust up the b d s M sex ranked. Bob's ex wife is running out of her home. Nothing was true. I had no idea she
pretended to be multiple people. And when you say she pretended to be all these people, what do you mean? So she'd have them text us And I'm a dumbmass because I should have figured that out way sooner that it was all Google numbers. And I had no idea that was a thing. But she would have like all of these conversations going at once that I mean, it was mind boggling that she was able to keep track of it all, because I sure as hell couldn't. She
had my head spinning. So she would text you and text Bob pretending to be Garth Snow, the manager of that hockey team, and then pretending to be Jack Cappy, a hockey player. And she took me to a King's game where they were playing the Ducks, I think in David Nonas was a manager or something at the time, and he was there and she would keep waving to him and it almost looked like there was eye contact there.
It was really believable at the time. And then you thought David was texting you or texting her, Yes, but it was really her texting herself as David. Yeah, it was like just mind boggling, But it wasn't mind boggling to me because about a month for Bob and Sarah find my blog and call me up, I figure out all those texts and emails. Mayor would show me. When I was helping her get her inheritance from her barristers in Ireland from her hateful cousin Finton, and from her
Los Angeles attorney. All originated from Google accounts. Mayor created herself to impersonate a cast of compelling characters. She was very good at the smoke and mirrors. She'd keep you spinning and you wouldn't know what was coming next to what was going on. And Bob certainly doesn't know what's going on because the con Mayor is running on him is now ripe and ready for harvest. She was trying to get ahold of his property, both of them. She was trying to get her name put on both of
the deeds. She was going to buy the house, right, So the scam was as as Bob told me. The scam was. Mayor had this twenty five million year inheritance coming from her Irish family, and she was going to use a portion of that to buy this twelve million dollar house in or around Newport Beach. Thing was incorrect. She's like, oh, yeah, I'm going to buy this house, but it might be this one or that one. We she actually drove around with me and she showed me
different houses. Like we just looked at him from the outside they were yeah. But then she showed me some you know, like the listings and the pictures online that they were incredible. She told me the one that they she really settled on had like a four car garage and she was going to make half of it a
hockey rink. Okay. I was like, how are you gonna Okay, I mean I didn't quite get that, but anyway, Yeah, So she got a realtor and her and Bob in his land rover would go with the realtor and look at this twelve million dollar house like many times, and the plan is, I'm gonna buy this house. Mayor tells Bob she's going to buy the house. She wants to put his name on it. At first, Bob says, that's not right, because if our relationship goes south, I'll own
a half of your home six million old. That's not right. And Mayor says, well, we can just make it equal. Add my name to your two homes and will be equal exactly. So Bob takes his kids to the to the mansion to pick out their bedrooms, and she puts in an offer and she's drawn. At this point, she has drawn up the paperwork for Bob to sign his homes over. He hasn't signed but fate intervened because Kelly,
his wife, she really is a hero. Kelly got curious, who is this woman Mayor Smith spending time around my kids? And then what did Kelly do? She googled Mare and found your blog. She did, And then I get a phone call from Bob and I'm mean, this is after he had fired me. She was like, go ahead and google her and see if you come up with this. And I did, and my head just exploded. I was like that hunt like because I knew instantly that everything
on your blog was absolutely true. There was no hesitation for me believing that. I was like, oh my god, this makes all the sense in the world now, Like a light went on, you know. So Bob rushes home and confronts Mayor by showing her a print out of my blog, and Mayor she doesn't say a word. She just quietly turns around and quickly walks out of his house,
jumps in her car, and drives away fast. Bob never hears from Mayor Smith ever again, So thank you for putting your blog out there, because otherwise who knows what had happened to Bob. Actually, Bob and I have met at least a dozen times over the past couple of years, and talked about the insanity of falling from Mayor's elaborate cons for hours and hours on end. While you don't hear from him here, you will hear from him later, So stay tuned. As for his nanny, Sarah, why did
Mayor want you out of the picture? Oh? Clearly so she could take over the caregiver position the kids, you know, not babysitting, but like she could be the mom and she could better influence Bob. So doing you signing over his homes to her? That makes me want to puke. And just when I think Sarah has said all that she can say, she drops this on me. Oh and then, oh, this is I told you about the life coaching thing. She was trying to bring me on as a life coach.
Tell me so she's like, oh, yeah, you have the personality to be a great life coach. I'm going to teach you how to do this. So she let me listen to some very very private things that people had told her, and like she had me doing homework about how I would help them. And she was paying me a couple hundred bucks a week, which to me at even now would be a you know, a significant amount of money. She hired you as like an assistance. Yeah, kind of, But I really think that was just to
push the rich lady thing right. I have a lot of the money. So Mayor tricks Sarah into believing she's a licensed psychologist. You know, it was a prerequisite for her child custody investigator gig and Mayor emails Sarah audio recordings of her life coaching sessions to train Sarah on how to be a life coach. You heard the sessions, God, I wish you still had those sessions now, because you deleted everything in a fit of rage after you found
all this out. I might still have that, Oh my god, and I have it on my iTunes of all things. So Sarah rushes home and searches every digital dumpster i e. Thumb drive, old computer, retired cell phone in her house and in her car and actually finds one of the recordings Mayor sent her back in. What you are about to hear has never been shared publicly before. It's Mayor in session with one of her quote unquote clients. Do you think he did that to start a fighter? Really?
Because he was insecure at this point. Mayor is counseling about a dozen clients in Los Angeles. That's your life much for this cycle of your life. I just want to be with somebody. I'm playing this recording over and over again, literally all day long. Do you see how that cycle keeps repeating. I just want to be with somebody. What surprises me the most her approach is a life coach. Is very unusual. I've never had a life coach, but from what I know, aren't they supposed to be supportive.
I'm feeling really sick to miss stomach, and it's from you and not talk about themselves. Oh my god, you're breaking me, let alone their sex lives. I loved people where the sex is bad and I still walked away, and it want to be changed to bad sex. I have not loved people and had great sex that have stayed in the relationship for nine years because it was fucking amazing sex and I got four orgasms in a night.
I wasn't letting that ship go. What you are witnessing is mayor tricking an emotionally vulnerable young woman for profit. You were manipulated and you were bullied into being married to him. It's as if she watches a week's worth of Dr Phil episodes and is off to the races. People who say I need space are actually subconsciously instigating a fight. So just a reminder here, Mayor is not
licensed to practice basket weaving, let alone psychology. And a part of you took the path of least resistance and wanting to be in a relationship with somebody and allowing yourself to settle because he was better than nothing. And the confidence with which she issues her psychological assessments is as powerful as it is stunning, and it stands all the way back to your dad, because you would have to fight for his attention and his time and his affection,
and what little he gave you had to earn. Right, aron I also discover her clients are some of her biggest victims. She scams tens of thousands of dollars from using the intimate details of their lives she gleans from sessions as ammunition for her cons According to some clients I spoke to Mayor impersonates via text and email, the very people these clients confess they're in love with from Afar,
Mayor than tricks them into believing their love interest. It's actually taking life coaching from her too, and she offers to broker a romance for thousands of dollars for other clients. Mayor convinces them that they were molested as children, even though they don't remember it, and that's why they have trouble in relationships. But Mayor offers to fix them if they just pay her tens of thousands of dollars for more life coaching sessions. Were you cheating on other guys?
Were you sleeping with multiple guys at one time? Not that there's anything wrong with that, I'm just trying to see what this measuring stick is for cheating capability. Listening to this recording, so your other homework asslignment. I want to define love. This deception unraveling, define in love. Compare the two makes me to quote Mayor sick to my stomach. And then I want you to write what your opinion of your role in each you love someone? What's your role?
And if you're in love with someone, what's your role. At this point, it seems that everyone Mayor meets she scams eventually, Tina the lawyer, Sherry the strip club manager, Michelle the psychic client, Bob the engineer, Sarah his nanny and a bunch of life coaching clients. She's giving fake therapy sessions too, while robbing them blind. But there are a fortunate few who Mayor targets and lays the elaborate
groundwork to con and then inexplicably changes her mind. So she was reading me text messages from Jennifer Jennifer Aniston asking my advice, and I'm like, so, let's figure this out. What do you want? So I was getting into the story going, oh my god, this is so wild. Remember Test catch A Tory, the CEO and founder of Global Women's Empowerment Network. Mayor spends six months tricking Tests into
believing she's best friends with Jennifer Aniston. Using her tried and true fake email and texting techniques, Test believes that the A list celebrity is interested in being the spokesperson for her nonprofit and wants to meet with Tests in the near future. The craziest part is his Golden globes were coming up and she said, I want you to come with me. Jen says this year she's not going to go with her entreage. She just wants a few close friends, and so she invited me. She invited you
to the Golden Globes with Jennifer Aniston. Jennifer Aniston invited her, and she said, I want to take you as my plus one because that will be a great place for you to talk with Jen because Jen this and Jend that. And I'm like, okay, oh my god. She does you have a dress? I said, I live in Los Angeles. We have a closet full accounts that we can throw on a you know, at a last minute for a red carpet. I said, I will find something. I will be there and so, you know, usually the Golden Globes
in time zone starts a little early afternoon. But she called me late morning and I was starting to prepare to get ready, and she said, oh, I'm really sorry. Jen decided that she didn't want to have very many people. She's in a very private moment right now, and I don't remember. There might have been something in a personal life that made sense to me. I'm like, oh, that makes sense. I don't want to intrude. I'll meet when the time is right, but thank you so much for
the invitation. As I put my dress back into the closet, I'm like, oh, well, I'll watch it on TV like every other year, and then to find out later, you know, including the fact that she would set up Google accounts and phone numbers and multiple ways and tag Jennifer Aniston into it so it would come up on her phone or email that Jen was calling or Jem was emailing, or Jem was texting my friend Jen. I'll look at Jen just sent me a text, Isn't she great? I'm like,
oh my god, that's so nice. But the weird thing is is to imagine the wizard behind that curtain. Tess is giving me chills. Mayor really is the wizard behind the curtain, because it's all magical until you realize nothing she says is true. Shortly after that, Jennifer Aniston red carpet Renegg. Mayor never contacts Tess again and never tries to scam a single dime out of her. Tess and I are her posts still scratching her heads over that one. If I ever got to chance to ask her, I
would say, what did you have planned for me? It's Sunday morning now in June of months after going to police and then covering other victims and almost victims like tests, but I'm no closer to getting justice than I am to getting washboard abs. I'm sitting on my couch sipping coffee. A story about people forgetting their email passwords plays on the morning news, and then suddenly a vivid memory floods my brain. Oh my god, it's this crazy thing. Here's how I explain it to my buddy Evan, who at
this point thinks I'm so defiable. How did you get into her email account? And I was scared, that's your default? That my default? Emotions like, Johnathan, what the hell are you doing? So Mayor had given me her password a couple of years earlier because she was stuck in traffic. And she calls me and says she can't get into her email account her phone. It's hacked, her her emails hacked. Oh my god, Jonathan, I'm a hacked. And she's like,
you know, having hysterics on the phone. And I she asked me, can you log into my email from your computer and see if you can get in? So she trusted me, and and I was busy at work, and I took a moment, sure, and I she gave me her password. I logged in your email is fine? I think, just try to restart your phone and you know that might work. That fixes a lot of things. So she restarted her phone and it worked. And I forgot about that whole exchange because it happened in the blip of
a work day. Totally forgot about the whole thing until one day after I realized I'm conned. A few months later, I'm watching the news on Sunday, drinking my coffee, and it just floods into my head. Oh my god, I know her password. Could that still be her password? No, you have to assume it would be right. I would assume she would have changed it, because she especially after all this. Yeah, I would assume. But no, I went to her email account. I put in her email and
asked for the password. I put in the password, and damn I was in. It was her password. And what's even crazier is I'm not the only one of Mayor's victims who she gives her email password to mid scam. She gave you her email password? Why? Yep, Sarah the nanny got it too because she couldn't figure out how to use a goddamn firestick. She was setting up an Amazon firestick. Yeah, she couldn't figure that out. So I'm like, well, what's your password? You know? And she gave you her
pass and remember what it was? Oh, but I remembered. Mayor's email account is a treasure trove of documented scams. It quickly discovered a lot of things. Well, she kept most of her emails deleted, but she didn't delete her scent that much. She did delete a lot. She kept everything deleted, which tells you she knew she was going to be caught one day. Everything was deleted in the inbox,
but the scent still had a lot. And all of these characters Finton, Tristan, Dear Mud, Jennifer Aniston, all these people she impersonated all their emails. She was the same password for all those accounts. So I logged into every single account and changed the password. I locked her out of all twenty three email identities she had as all
these people she used to scam people. That's gotta be crazy to just like open up someone's email and then you see literally a list of personas that she's acting as, not only the personas in the email exchanges. Now you might think what I'm doing is illegal, but it's actually not. For two reasons. Number One, Mayor gave me her password and from a legal standpoint that gives me and anyone else.
She gives her password to permission to log into her account, and number two I logged into her email account with the sole intention of uncovering evidence of a crime and stopping crimes already in progress. I also reported all her fraudulent email accounts to the authorities. However, there was one discovery I made in Mayor's crime riddled accounts that I just never saw coming. So what's sugar Daddy for me dot com? So I didn't know this until I found
this out. In the world, there are sugar daddies, and there are sugar babies, and sugar daddies pay sugar babies for sex. She had multiple men paying her a monthly fee for sex. Next time, on Queen of the con Mayor practiced witchcraft, and you witnessed that. And Mayor Smith casts a really profitable spell on a politician, and she told me that she was taking his money there, you know, so that he didn't have to confront her. She told me that too, he'd better be careful because when Mayor's
cash flowest in jeopardy, all hell breaks loose. I want you to call the authorities. I what you promised me. You need to do right by me, not treat me like I'm an extortionist or crazy. For exclusive photos and other bonus material, follow at Queen of the Con on Instagram and if you're enjoying Queen of the Con, tell your friends about it and leave us a review on Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Queen of
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