True personal growth ultimately will lead to fulfillment, and it's my intention with these podcasts to connect more deeply with you. Thank you for joining me, Anne Corbin, and my guests, and welcome to this episode. Well, hello again. I am delighted today to welcome Craig Richard, who is probably vastly better known than I am. One of his many talents is he's a professional musician, and he's about to join a cruise ship to do exactly that. And he has the pleasure of staying in Barbados.
Hence, the difference between what I'm wearing and what Craig's wearing because I'm in freezing UK. Craig has had a life full of adventure, and he's been on TV telling a remarkable story of his recovery from a rock climbing accident. So that's, half we might go down if we run out of things to say, but I don't think that's gonna be very likely. Probably not. Well, because we're gonna start off by talking about life after death, which is a complete departure.
Never done that before on this podcast. So, Craig, where do we start with this subject? Wow. Yeah. First of all, it's an honor to be here. Thanks for having me on the program. My pleasure to have you. Yeah. So I've been on a spiritual journey since I was quite young, maybe about 12 years old. Something just turned on inside of myself that said a lot of the, normal stories I was getting around me about God and the nature of life and life after death just they didn't resonate for me.
And so I really set off on my own kind of in a search for things that were was stories and ideas that really just hit me on a more deeper level in my heart than the ones I've been hearing. And, yeah, a big part of that was coming across a body of work by a gentleman named Michael Newton. His first book is called Journey of Souls, and he had a sequel called the Destiny of Souls.
And this is a a body of work that he had done as a psychologist and a hypnotherapist to take people into what he calls the superconscious state, which is actually a term coined by Carl Jung. So conscious, subconscious, and even lower is the superconscious state. And in this stage, Michael Newton was able to have people report in great detail about what happens after death and where we go.
And, it's just a a fascinating infinite space out there that can be described very well, but, it's truly another world of experience after this one. Now I haven't read that book, but because of our prior conversation, it's definitely on my list. What I'm familiar with more is people who regress and then remember their past lives. But I'm really interested to hear something about the life between lives. Absolutely. Yeah. And that is part of the process. I've had this done to myself twice.
I've had the hypnosis done. And, it's a regression from this life to birth in this life, to the most recent past life, and then to the spiritual world. It's just the way that Michael had found to do it in a way that takes you in a way that makes most sense to the the mind, I guess, or to the to your being. Okay. Do you remember your experience? Like Absolutely. Yeah. I'd love to talk about it. Okay. Yeah. The way that that came about is kind of a magical story in itself.
I'll very briefly summarize. I was in the Los Angeles airport, I don't know, it's 10 years ago now, and this woman dropped her purse on my foot, and that just started us talking. And before I knew it, we talked about life, death, God, religion, everything, politics, all in between. And, and I said to her something like, you know, I felt alone my whole life that I think about all these things that seem to be against the system out of the norm, and I feel so alone out here.
Like, where have you been, people like you? And she said, you need to know this. If you feel alone, you will continue to broadcast that signal out, and that will be your experience. You were sent this gift today to know that people like you are out there. And when you believe that, we will start we'll hear your your song, your your frequency, and we'll show up more. And that was absolutely true.
My life changed after that to bring so many more people into my tribe, my circle that speak a language similar to me that are curious about life and wanna ask the the hard deep questions. You know? So this woman, just so happened to do these types of, hypnosis. It's called an LDL or life between life hypnosis. Okay. So I was from Los Angeles in, 2017, which was years later. And, I'd never seen this woman again, but kept her phone number and said, hey. I'm in Venice Beach. Let's meet for coffee.
And, we met up. She said, I'm sorry. I've only got a short time. I was like, great. Well, I just wanna tell you, I read this book recently called Journey of Souls. It's really just informed me so much about great ideas about what happens after after this life, and, I wanna find one place to do on. She said, Craig, that's what I do for a living. So she really came into my life a few times for some important things. And so, about 2 days later, I think it was, we had a session in her home.
And, yeah, I'd love to go into my experience in that Please do. I'm very interested to hear all about it. K. So, she had this lovely office and, sat in kind of a dark room. She certainly had a a process. I can't really describe every detail of it, but hypnosis is all about being deeply relaxed in a very safe, calm environment. And, so once I was under, I started having my experience. The first place that we went to was a childhood memory that was important for me in this lifetime.
And the way that this hypnosis experience works is it's like watching a movie. Your eyes are closed, but all of I'll speak in I statements. All of my sense my senses were active. Even to smell. I could smell and hear, what was happening around me. But very aware that I was still in the room under hypnosis in my body as Craig Richard. Right? So it's not like you're zonked out in outer space kind of thing. That was not my experience at least.
So, I was regressed back to, an important childhood memory, and I saw myself at 3. I had something called a big wheel, which is this plastic tricycle, the big wheel on the front and 2 little pedals around it. And, I used to ride down the steep hill into the driveway of my home. We had a wooden fence, and I would slide and turn and crash into this fence. And I just thought this was the most fun thing ever.
And, people would say to my mom, I think there's something wrong with your child, you know, when they see this. But, it was a really important memory to revisit because it was the first time in life I saw that I love doing wild things, things that people didn't quite maybe understand, and that I also didn't care what they thought about it. So I think that's why that memory came to me in the hypnosis. It's a very important part of myself in this life.
I left that memory and, was regressed back to the moment of my birth in this life. And that was a it's one of the most overwhelming experiences I've ever had in this lifetime. I felt myself in the womb. I could see this glowing orange, pink red light all around me, and I could hear, like, the echoes of voices outside of me, like, I guess, which would be outside of the tummy if I was in with my mom.
And, just felt this such an overwhelming feeling of love in my mom's womb that I was just crying so hard during the hypnosis session. It's such a moving and beautiful experience. And, and then I was actually born. I, felt myself being squeezed and saw this blinding light. And then immediately, when my eyes could focus, I saw my father, every detail. He had this little beard, and his hair was kinda balding, and he had this, like, collared striped shirts.
And I could see the the room that I was in. And the really wild thing, after my hypnosis is I said to my dad all these little details about my birth, and he's like, I don't remember telling you all that stuff. I was like, yeah. That's interesting. He's like, that's exactly how it was. Everything you just said is how it happened. I want to ask you how you were feeling. Do you recall how you felt? Were you scared? Were you excited? Did you want to go towards yeah.
Did you want to go towards the light, or did you wanna step where you were? Yeah. It felt really natural. Yeah. It felt like I couldn't wait to get out, and, that's another thing that was kind of confirmed by my mom. It's really fun to talk to mom and dad about my birth after this hypnosis Oh, bad. Because there were just so many things that lined up about my experience in the hypnosis and what actually happened. And mom says, your birth was so easy. You came right out. I had no pain.
It's like you just were dying to to get into this life. You know? So your first child? I was the second, actually. Yeah. I have a brother named Ryan who's 2 years older than me. Yeah. Yeah. And that that will be a theme as well as I describe more of my experience.
The thing that's very powerful about these LBLs, from my experience, is it's it's like, one of the most powerful, like, astrological or human design or, or some of the other ones called you know, when we get these personality tests that are very supposed to be very specific to us. Right? Mhmm. Things that tell us how we are in this lifetime.
And LBL for me is the most spiritual information I've gotten to be useful to me in this lifetime because I'm accessing myself on a spiritual level, not on a who I am as this version of myself level as Craig Richard in this body. You know? But did she regress you back before you were in the womb? No. I went that that's how that part played out, the we it's like you drop into a moment in time in life. Right?
And I dropped into a moment in time that was maybe 5, 10 minutes before I was actually born. Yeah. But I'm also interested in the spiritual experience perhaps when we're not yet on Earth. Yeah. We're we're getting there. Oh, we're getting there. Okay. I'll keep quiet, then you carry on. That's alright. This is an ongoing regression back to the spirit spirit world. Mhmm. So after the experience of being born, I was regressed into my most recent past life that you're more familiar with.
Yeah. And, it's like in hypnosis, if you're familiar, it's like the the hip hip hypno hypnotherapist will say, you know, this is my suggestion of where we are, what we're doing, whatever that is. We're gonna be there in 54321. I'm gonna snap my fingers kind of thing. Right? And so she said, we're going to your most recent past life. Anytime in your most recent past life, counting back from 5, you know, snap. And I see myself, in a jungle type setting.
It seemed jungle less at least, and I can see my feet down below me, a very big, bulgy feet. And, I just feel a bit confused as to where I am. I'm definitely alone in this kind of jungle setting. And, I start to get a little panicky, maybe just a little anxious just because I'm wanting to understand where I am because I'm in this body, but I don't have any more sense of what's happening. And so she kinda calms me down a bit and says, okay. No problem.
We'll fast forward in time to a place where you have a bit more clarity. 54321 snap. And I see myself in front of a fire, and there's maybe 15, 20 people sitting around this fire, and they've, got these beautiful, different feathers and beads and things in their hair. And, people have some paint on their bodies, and they're all looking at me.
And now I'm able to see my body clearly, and I'm just this very kind of bulging man with, like, big bulgy toes and, like, big biceps and, like, a huge nose, and, and I can see my body. I looked down, and I have this necklace that's got several bear claws on it. And I realized all these people are looking at me because I'm telling a story. And, and then it dawns on me that I'm the medicine man of this tribe.
And so I just kinda sat in that experience for a little while, and then, the hypnosis, hypnotherapist directed me to the moment of death in that life. 54321 snap. I see myself laying on my back, looking up with all these tall trees and greenery around me and kind of a a clearing in the jungle. And, there's maybe 5 people standing around me, and then this, very beautiful woman who's, I don't know, maybe 85 holding my hand, long gray and white hair. And I can tell she's my partner and my wife.
And, she's got this big smile on her face, and she's so happy for me that I'm passing into the next place. There's nobody sad. That was a very moving experience, and that is that death was a very happy thing for everyone around me. And then I died. I saw myself rise above my body. I can see this body maybe 15, 20 feet below me, laying on the ground lifeless, and that woman's still holding my hand, all these people looking down to me. I keep rising up and up, and I can see the continent.
I can see the Earth, and then I kinda turn around, then I'm just in this almost, like, vacuum, like, vast experience of kind of being like an outer space sort of, but it's more full of light than the way we think of outer space. And the way I would describe what I saw is kind of misty bands of colored light, kind of like Aurora Borealis. And alright. So at this point, the hypnotherapist is moving me into the spiritual world experience where the soul goes after leaving a body in life.
Would you like to interject, or should I just keep going? I just have a question. I've got a lot of questions. Did you feel any, any reluctance to leave your body? What did you come to a time or were you making a decision? Or was, again, it just a natural flow like the way you described your birth? Very, very natural. You were ready, in other words. No decision. Yeah. Mentally ready. My body was ready. I think the fact that I was a medicine man probably gave me a huge leg up and all of that.
Oh, okay. Yes. Yeah. But when we get into this thing about living many lifetimes, this is a very important aspect I wanna touch on later on, but I'll say now, is if you've lived a vast amount of lifetimes, this is what we refer to when we call someone an old soul. And it really is just that your soul's awareness has had so much experience through different beings that it's just, able to be a little more conscious, a little see a bit more, feel a bit more, and, and it's not personal.
This is a really important thing about this this journey of souls is that if you've only lived a couple of lifetimes, you don't have the tools yet to see and understand things in a in a a deeper way that someone else may that's done this many, many times. And that's not personal at all. It just has to do with experience. Indeed. Yeah. Yeah. So the the death was very natural. It felt really good to leave my body.
I felt this huge sigh of relief, this, weightlessness, you know, especially a body as we age just doesn't work as well as it used to when we're young. And, you know, the aches and pains and just things are tired, and the body is only meant to live for so long. So it was a great relief.
And one thing that, I wanna mention now that is so hopeful about this this body of knowledge, of possibility, I would say, that this is how things work is that my understanding is that our consciousness continues on. Oh, okay. Yeah. This is one of our greatest fears is that when it's lights out that whatever I'm experiencing here, it just doesn't exist anymore. It doesn't matter anymore. And I have a lot of spiritual friends that aren't sure that they believe that to be true.
But if we live many lifetimes, to me, by necessity, has to be true that we maintain memories of those previous lifetimes. Because for me to interject something very meta about this that overarches all of it, that the whole point of living many lifetimes is that alright. So the original premise of why we're here, why we're created is that source, great spirit, God, whatever you wanna call the creator of all things, existing by itself is like absolute knowledge.
It's almost like just a thought, and that this very cerebral thinking thing is not having an experience. Okay? So what source did and we agreed to do because we came from source is to shoot off into all these infinite numbers of In different situations. Exactly. In universes and planets and all the things for the reason that God could experience itself through our physical experience. That's why we're here. Check.
I think this is all really well set out by Neil Donald Walsh in his conversation with God. That was what set me on the path k. Of, well, everything I've read since. But Yeah. What you've just described is very much the way he introduces it as well. Right. Yeah. One thing I wanna add to that is as I started to, I don't know, be ready. You know, I love this saying, when the student is ready, the teacher appears.
When I started to be ready for the information, many, many different sources by different people started coming to me, and they all have the same message. Okay? Maybe worded a little bit different, but the nature of what source is, why we're here, what we're supposed to do, Their explanations are all very, very similar. Yep. So I need to backtrack. You went on several tangents there.
Okay. You were up to the part where you'd left your life as the Indian Messing Man, and you were now in the ether where you were just a soul, not a body. Yeah. Right. So private. Yeah. This is a very fascinating part of the the body of work from journey of souls. It's about the actual journey from the body to the spirit world because this is something that there's a lot of mythology and ideas and things about going to the tunnel of lights, right, or things like that.
And one thing I'd just like to interject interject in this moment that's very important to me, we'll talk in another conversation about the Magdalene manuscript and ideas about who You're right. Definitely wanna do that. Jesus, was. And, one thing that is said is that one of his great purposes was to lay a very clear path of light from death to the spirit world. Because, apparently, prior to him doing that, it was a more tumultuous experience to leave a body and then to go into the spirit world.
Very jarring. And that, through his being, through his his love, his his essence, this powerful, beautiful essence, he laid what they call a path of light from life to death. Well, he wasn't a sean, wasn't he? And they knew a lot more about this metaphysical stuff than the average person in the population. Absolutely. He had studied in Egypt and so on, and I've read a lot about this as well. And I find it fascinating. And why has it all been suppressed?
Yeah. It's, it's a shame, but, in many ways, I feel that we're on a path to wake up. I'm very hopeful for humanity because this information was not so read readily available before. And And the fact that we're able to be here and talk about it, is, to me, such a great sign that it's it's gonna happen. You know? But I wanted to enter I wanted to throw that in there because he's just one of my favorite people, to be honest with you. He's one of the, I think, greatest teachers that ever lived.
And, I had to kind of claim that back for myself that, was separate from a religious teaching, and that was a whole journey. I'm really glad that I've been able to do that. Yeah. So, anyway, I I just say again? The life between lives. That's where you're up to. Yeah. Yeah. I just wanted to bring Jesus in there because a lot of stories say that they see Jesus when they die. And I I think for some people thought that's true. They see the essence of him. Part of his spirit being comes to meet them.
And I think a lot of that's because that's what they've spent their life really desiring, really expecting. So, his essence comes there to greet many people as they make the transition. And, that's all dependent on how many lives you've lived is how the story goes. If you've done this a few times, you have spirits that have passed that were very, important and familiar to you, like a a grandmother or maybe even the spirit of a pet.
Just people and and things that make you feel not so scared in the process of what's happening. Right? They're there to kinda hold your hand a little bit through this this process. And, if you've done this process many, many times, none of that's necessary. You just leave your body, turn towards the lights, and you're there. You know? It's like I I I know this journey. I've walked this path many times. So so, yeah, I I was in in the spirit world experience very quickly, in this regression.
And before I actually did my little stops on this visit, there's several stops, people or spirits or essences that, you get to interact with. Before that happened, this thing came towards me that was this massive brass metal with, lots of little pieces of bone on it. And, it came kind of to me, this physical object, and the message was just, this is a very important tool for you in this lifetime to express yourself and to connect with people, and a saxophone is made of brass and abalone keys.
Okay. So pretty sure that that's what that was about since, you know, one of the the big ways I've shined my lights is through my music and its lifetime. That's fascinating. Yeah. So I'll just lay out for you the the basic stops that you take on an LBL journey, and I can go into them. The first one is to meet your spirit guide. The second stop is to interact with your soul group, and I'll go into what all these are when I hit them. And then the last one is to meet with the council of elders.
Okay? And in an LBL, what's unique is that you are visiting the spirit world, which is very different than having just died and being there kind of entirely. Mhmm. This is this is an experience to go check it out, interact with some things and people, and then come back. Right? So the first stop is to meet your spirit guide. Every soul has a spirit guide, which is another spirit, another soul that has made an agreement to watch out for you.
And this is, just just to tell you right now, when when I get into this stuff, this is one of my greatest passions, is to talk about this, with someone who's interested and, can receive it. It it is absolute timelessness. Yeah. You know? Because it's such, it's such resonant information that time kind of just doesn't exist anymore. You know?
So in a life between life hypnosis, kind of part of the purpose, first of all, is to just experience yourself as soul essence, which is a wonderful experience. It's so light. Everything is just such a incredible state of flow. There's no danger. Everything is, it's, yeah, it's just a very peaceful place to be. I suppose there's no sense of time up there? No. No. I mean So you've got no idea how long this period between dying and being born actually lasted?
I think that's talked about in the books in terms of human time. My recollection is that, like, a second in the spirit world can be 100 of years on earth kind of thing if you want it to be. But again, as as you stated earlier, time is an illusion. So, yeah, that's a whole subject. Timing is an illusion. We'll we'll Well, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Again, a whole a whole subject did its own right. But far.
Yeah. You have 3 experiences up there, and I suppose they just seem to follow one another naturally. They're gonna give us detail in a minute. But then when the 3rd experience when you met with the elders, the time came to come back to Earth. Correct. Yeah. Felt like the right thing to do. Absolutely. Yeah. There's these three important stops for a soul, to just if there's any information to be gathered to meet with these other spirits that are pivotal to our experience here on life in life.
There there are other souls that have agreed to be part of this journey for us. Yeah. And that's a very, informing, experience and and very it's because I'll get to it, but, like, for example, in your soul group, you can realize that someone who's your your brother, your mother, an important person in your life is actually someone you've lived many, many lifetimes with. And that just has given me a deeper appreciation for those people that are in my circle in this lifetime. Right.
So the first step a debrief up there. When you meet your first guide or the council of elders or whosoever, do you go through a debrief about, well, I I did this right, but I could have done something else better, and I want to improve next time or something like that? Great question. And that's why I said earlier that this experience is different than the experience described, after death.
So in in the hypnosis, Michael Newton really examined all the different parts of the goings on in the spirit world, which we could talk for days about. I'm just mostly getting into my LBL experience right now. So you must read the books. It's just so powerful. Yeah. So informing.
One thing I do wanna say as well about these spiritual sources, Conversations with God, Journey of Souls, that's very important for me is that when I started my spiritual journey and I would read a text like the Bible, I would read something, and then if I felt some kind of pressure or guilt or blame or I needed to be part of something, and if I wasn't, that I wasn't okay, like, if there was conditions, basically, it didn't sit in my heart, you know.
And, when I started to find these texts describing, a different spiritual experience, they're all unconditional, okay? They're just a piece of information and they all say that this is just an explanation of how God and life works. If you don't like it or you don't agree with it, nobody cares. There's there's nothing to be done about that. Right? Yeah. That to me was just the most freeing thing that went straight to my heart because it's like this isn't trying to convince me of anything.
It's just something for me to investigate. And so I'm like, yeah. Give me more of that. Right? Right. Yeah. So the debrief question that, is a part of what happens directly following a life is to investigate your last life with your spirit guide. And, that's in a very fascinating experience. They describe it as being in an amphitheater with all these different screens playing different images from your life.
Yeah. And got this kind of, like, sort of mystical device in front of yourself where you can jump to any point in your life and review it if you want. And, yeah, it's just for the purpose of very unconditionally, just looking at the choices you made, what you've learned, what you didn't learn, and then you decide with your spirit guide how you want to live your next life. Right? And that's just a whole super fascinating process, because it's not crime and punishment. Right?
Source has no desire to punish itself. Right? It's crazy, isn't it? It's just religion and control, and we've all been conditioned and programmed and, yeah, we're not just spreading now at last. Yeah. It's one of the the great sadnesses about the human experiences that we've been in masses for so long told that you need to live a certain way or you will pay for it for eternity. And that is that hurts my heart. It makes me wanna cry when I say that out loud.
But, up there in the the spirit world, it is completely unconditional experience. If you're a murderer and rapist in your last life, your spirit guide will say, well, these are the choices you made. How do you feel about that? You'd be like, oh. Yeah. Maybe I could have done that differently. And they say, great. Well, we can choose a body. We can choose, a location. You can choose parents that will help you to learn from that experience.
And oftentimes, you will choose an experience that opposes the one you did. Right? So you can be on the other side to balance it out and to learn. Because the whole point of living is to learn. This journey of souls we're on is to have enough experience that eventually our spirit will just go back to the original form of Source. Okay? And in the spirit world, there are various this is a thing they are very good about being careful to describe. There's no hierarchy in soul development.
It's just about the level of experience. So there are souls in the spirit world that have various levels. You know, there's the souls that keep reincarnating. There's the spirit guides, which are more advanced souls. There's angel souls. There's all these vocations in the spirit world. You know? Have you seen the Disney film Soul? Haven't even heard of it. It's it's very unique. Yeah. I mean, sometimes they, they have some stuff that is kinda tapped in, and this is one of them actually.
And, basically, it shows that there's all these jobs that different spirits have in the spirit world. There's kind of the bean counter, you know, that I did see was the adjustment bureau. That was a Okay. Ago. Did you see that? Yeah. Exactly. That's interesting. That was good fun. Yeah. Exactly. So those guys are tasked with kind of, like, monitoring Yeah. That do a certain thing, you know, which I don't really believe to be true necessarily.
Well, the thing is we're all to an extent, we're all guessing while we're on earth because we've forgotten everything. Absolutely. Thank you for dropping that in. This is the agreement that we all made to be here in a human body is that we would have amnesia of where we really came from. And, the purpose of that is I I love this this idea that we can incarnate as many other types of beings on different worlds and all the extraterrestrials that are out there in just our galaxy and universe.
And if you're at a higher level of consciousness than us, the the idea is that you actually do have the awareness of where you came from, that part of your being knows that you came from Source, and you get to operate with that knowledge while you're alive. Human beings, have made a very specific agreement with Source that we wanted to forget where we came from.
And it's really brilliant, actually, because if you think about it, if you are born knowing that you come from a place where you can't lose, you would live in a very certain way, whether that's positive or negative. You know? You might jump off the cliff just because you're having a bad day because you knew that you just get to do it all over again. The fact that we don't know gives us this very unique experience where we get to figure it out all on our own. That's really cool, actually.
Mhmm. Right? I spent a lot of my life saying, why does it have to be like this? Why why do we have so many differences? Why are people so opinionated about the way things are and it must be this way? It's because we've been left to completely figure it out on our own. Right? Yeah. Oh, we've probably come to an end for this conversation, but I think there are several more that we can have in the future if you Yeah.
I'll just, cap this real quick since I've mentioned it, and we can get into it in another conversation. But in the LBL, you meet with your spirit guide, which is a very beautiful experience because it's someone that's totally behind you in this lifetime. You get to meet with your soul group, which is, supposed to be anywhere from 5 to 15 different souls that you incarnate with again and again in your lifetimes to play different roles.
And then you get to meet with the council of elders, which are some of the most ancient souls that live in the spirit world. And, they're the ones that will give you some form of advice, if you'd like it, on your LDL journey. And, yeah, it was very, very useful to me. They gave me 2 pieces of advice that have were so simple and have been so profound for me to use in this lifetime.
So And when in this life did you actually, I mean, kind of how old were you when you had the experience of hearing that advice from the elders as yourself? Yeah. I had this, LDL in 2017. That was 7 years ago. I'm 40, so I was 33 years old. The same year that Christ was when he died. Kind of a interesting parallel. Powerful stuff. As you can tell on the Time is too. And so I think it's time to wrap up for the present. I have enjoyed speaking with you so much. Thank you. I'm sorry.
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