So Perez. Based on what you've just said. If someone was to ask you. One of five things I could start. Stop or continue doing to help me on this journey. What would they be? Yeah. Oh, good question. I would say we generally are. Innocently addicted to thinking. We don't realize how much we think the world rather than feel it, sense it and, and we take our thinking quite seriously.
Now we need to more like a two or three year old and recognize. 12 00:00:45,724.999999999 --> 00:00:48,465 You know, the, the 'cause because they don't take their thinking that seriously. .999999999 So thought is very useful for some things. 14 00:00:50,804.999999999 --> 00:01:04,945 If you're trying to work out, you know, a problem at work or, or design a new spreadsheet, then by all means think, but we have a lot of thinking about ourselves and we get quite, we layer up that thinking.
.999999999 And we don't recognize that a lot of that thinking really is it's not accurate that the conceptual mind, is just making up guesses and generalizations. 16 00:01:15,224.999999999 --> 00:01:21,254.999999999 So we we're overthinkers and I think we, in society, we've noticed, we've been addicted to a few things over the decades. 17 00:01:21,404.999999999 --> 00:01:24,414.999999999 Like, you know, smoking and, and eating bad food. 18 00:01:24,544.999999999 --> 00:01:28,774.999999999 We're gonna realize now that we're overthinkers, so we need to back off. 19 00:01:28,774.999999999 --> 00:01:30,14.999999999 The thinking is 0.1. 20 00:01:31,274.999999999 --> 00:01:43,485 Point two would be to start to realize that there is, more to us than meets the eye and nature is doing us.
So whereas it might appear, you know, that we make a decision to do X or Y or you know, I did that and that's coming from the self. No, it isn't it, it is, we are part of nature so nature is living us and once we allow ourselves to see that, it's beautiful because we realize there's an intelligence to that. The third one I would say is to get people to get curious about what they think their. Feelings or sensations are actually telling us.
So we've been taught that if you feel rubbish or bad, then there's something going on either in life, you know, circumstances or you there is wrong and needs fixing. Now if we can start to see that actually what feelings are telling us, is there an indicator to how caught up we are in the self, or the language I would sometimes use is how contracted our aperture is. It tells you about where your mind's at. Not that there's anything in the world that needs fixing or changing.
There might be things that you wanna change in the world, but you need to recognize that the feelings don't come from the world. Feelings don't come from the world and circumstances, they come from the mind. So there's no causal power in the external world. And we can then use feelings as kind of like a, a signpost to tell us to point to us when we're going off track like a rumble strip in the road. And then the fourth one, I'll say a bit more about feelings.
'cause they're, they're quite a big thing, aren't they? Is that we've got quite habituated and conditioned to either distract ourselves from feeling with our devices or, with substances or conceptualize them. as in we think about them. Oh, I'm angry right now. And yes, I'm very angry and I'm aware. I'm angry. But that's just thinking about them, conceptualizing them rather than feel them, feel them.
Now, if we know that feelings are just a signpost for where our mind's at and where our aperture's in, we can just feel the feeling. Ignore the narrative that the mind is made up. 'cause that's coming from our conditioning. It's not anything useful. And just feel it. Just feel it. Bring it in, feel it, and then it just dissolves. So not only are we misunderstanding what feelings are telling us, we tend to distract ourselves or conceptualize feelings and don't feel them again.
Go back to the two year old. They are brilliant at feeling stuff and that's why it doesn't last very long. And the fifth thing I'll say, and this is a bit more kind of what to do next, is just to get super curious that maybe innocently and visibly we've misunderstood what the mind is. Maybe the idea that we're all separate things and it's the materialist world and the separate self is how we survive, you know, and it's all down to little us and there's a hard world out there is not right.
.33333333 And if we press pause on that and get curious, it doesn't take long for us to see there's something going on. 53 00:05:00,28.78787879 --> 00:05:05,288.78787879 and the, what we've been taught as again, innocent invisibly is not really working. 54 00:05:06,348.78787879 --> 00:05:12,978.78787879 And if you can follow that intuition, And start to get curious in the way. 55 00:05:13,8.78787879 --> 00:05:24,458.78787879 What I would suggest, the way that we've been pointing on this podcast through inquiry, you'll soon see that there's a lot of very well-meaning, misunderstandings out there about the mind. 56 00:05:24,478.78787879 --> 00:05:30,498.78787879 And when they fall apart and dissolve, you're like, wow, I wish someone had told me this before. 57 00:05:30,598.78787879 --> 00:05:35,418.78787879 That's the most common thing we get on the work I do, is because I wish I'd realized this before. 58 00:05:36,618.78787879 --> 00:05:39,798.78787879 So I would say number five, press pause. 59 00:05:40,338.78787879 --> 00:05:46,622.78787879 Get curious now how are that, how is that for five things? They're amazing. 60 00:05:47,182.78787879 --> 00:05:55,972.78787879 I was listening to you and I was smiling at the same time thinking, wow, these are things that I can really think through and take away, and do a little bit a reflection. 61 00:06:00,202.78787879 --> 00:06:01,242.78787879 So the idea.