We Started a Podcast! Max Fewtrell & Izzy Hammond Launch the Quadcast

Welcome to the Quadcast, hosted by myself, Max Utrell, and motorsport enthusiast, content creator, and new member of the Quadrant family, Izzy Hammond. We'll be joined by a variety of talent from the world of motorsport, telling their stories on how they made their mark. Welcome to the Quadcast. Right Izzy, how are you? Day one as a Quadran family member. How are you liking our kind of... This will be our new home now. I know. I'm really excited. I feel like the new kid at school, but...

You guys have been very lovely, very welcoming. Glad they have. This is our studio. This is where we're going to be set for our brand new podcast. We've got some interesting stuff around us that kind of tells the story of Quadrant, I guess. We've got all the athlete stuff. Have you got some stuff in here?

No, they said my helmet wasn't cool enough, so it didn't get added in. Nothing of mine in here, but that's fine. It's not really about us. No, this is our journey, this Quadrant's journey so far. And I think we'll be able to add to this kind of set as we go on and we get some amazing guests on.

And that's kind of what we're going to be doing, isn't it? Yeah, we're going to talk to anyone and everyone around motorsport. But today, it's all about us, Max. It is, it is. We can say what we want today. Thanks to our friends at Revolut. If you're in the UK, US or Australia and haven't signed up, you can get 20 pounds, 20 US dollars or 40 Australian dollars just by signing up with the link below.

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So we need to know a bit more about you. Yes, which I find a bit scary. I'm okay with hosting stuff, answering the questions a little bit more terrifying. So I'm going to keep it very brief. I'm Izzy. I like cars. I do stuff with cars.

That's pretty much it. And I think I'm quite lucky because I feel like I get to ask the stupid questions. Like I'm kind of going into it in a way that's very open-minded and I will... talk about anything i will ask anything that i think a lot of the times people feel like they can't ask because i think it's a big stigma in the car world generally

you're meant to know everything now that's formula one or like how an engine works i feel that because if you don't it's i used to race and then i was like oh you must know everything about cars it's like no i don't the car communities And like, you don't know. Yeah, it's savage. That pressure, so. Yeah, and I also think like.

There's so many different sides of the car world. There's little niches and cliques within them. And I think what's going to be quite fun for us is talking about the motorsport world, which is a sort of part of the car world within itself.

that I'm just getting into and I'm just learning and where I think I can learn a lot from you as someone that's very much in the motorsport world. It's going to be really interesting for me. It's going to be awesome. Yeah, I'm excited. You mentioned obviously you love cars and... I've heard you like car modding. I do. I am into car. Well, I like a little bit of everything. So I'm interested in all the little bits and bobs, but car modding is something new for me and I love it.

Like the thought of having a car that is completely individual. Like no one else has the same thing as you. Have you done something to your own car? Yeah. What have you done? Go on. Are you going to share with us? I mean... No, so I have an A35, which everyone's going to tell me I should have bought an A45. You were, didn't you? Yeah, it's really expensive. Let's not talk about it. It's also on finance, so I shouldn't have done any of the mods that I did, but it's fine. Yeah, so it's A35.

I've done some fun stuff to it. A little bit of engine things. That's what it's all about. And then I'm going to build it. But I also love the Japanese stuff. Really cool. We were up in Japan earlier this year and the stuff out there is nuts. It's like a whole new world to me.

I didn't even want to ask questions because it was just so overwhelming. Yeah. But I don't know, but this is all awesome. Yeah. But it's like when cars come out the factory, they are so much more capable than the way they come out. There's so much you can do to them. And that is...

a bit of me i love that stuff are you a car molding person i feel like i mean again it goes back to everyone's oh race you must know everything about cars i don't like i love cars yeah all the cars but again my knowledge is very limited so I'm almost scared to speak about cars because it's like, this guy's clingless. What's he on about? Because this is something I wanted to ask you. What would you describe your job now? Who are you now? Because you raced for most of your life. Yeah.

and now you're not racing anymore, but you still have the love for it? It's a weird one. It's something I've definitely battled with since I stopped. I had sort of an identity crisis, you want to call it, whatever. I started racing when I was nine, and then... did that up until I was 21. So it was kind of my whole upbringing was being a racing driver. And then when I stopped, I was like, what do I do now? What am I now? I'm not a racing driver anymore.

that's when the opportunity quadrant came along and we can go into that my journey but yeah content creator now exploring the world of motorsport and i'm still luckily attached to motorsport in a way through obviously lando i get to go to the races and be quite involved and see behind the scenes there so there's it i get that

itch scratch sort of still being around motorsport a lot I think I'd struggle a lot more if I wasn't around racing still because I still deeply love it but it's not necessarily something I can just go and jump and do again do you think that's difficult though because

having to basically make that decision, age, what, eight, nine, this is what I want to do, and then put everything into it. Because it's full commit, like, you can't go in, like, half-footed, you have to go for it completely, don't you?

A lot of sports in general, obviously, you know, all the top guys who make it and end up having great success, they all found their sport or loved it from a super young age. So I think almost that's quite common, but... it's it's it is a big commitment and it's i had to my whole life changed

Stopped going to school when I was like 13, started doing homeschooling, moved back from Singapore when I was 11. So almost went back to Europe straight away just because that's where the high level stuff was. And I had to start doing that straight away to have any chance.

so yeah it was my whole life became racing um obviously i had all my school friends in singapore lost connection with all of them and yeah it's it's tough it's it's your whole life every week you're thinking about racing and that's what it was like from nine years old till 21 it was just this sort of obsession almost because at what point do you think it turns from

Or does it ever turn from your life to a job? Because I look at the sort of, you know, the top level drivers in F1 now and I'm thinking, Are they at the point, maybe the older ones, are they thinking this is what I do for a living or this is still who I am to my core age? I don't know, Fernando's age. Still thinking this is my entire life now.

or do you think at some point it just becomes how you pay your bills um that's a tough one because i'd never made it to f1 so i only felt a sort of portion of it i think

When I got to F3, I did feel a shift in how much I enjoyed racing and when the pressure started to pile on. Like go-karting, super fun. You still get told every now and then, right, you've got to... take this a bit more serious and perform and do you're aware you need to get good results but it was still fun you know you enjoyed it you had all your friends at the track and it was a good laugh yeah

And you're a kid as well. Yeah, we're 13, 14. We all look back at go-karting now and it's like, those are the best times. But if I look back to F3, F4, that's when it slowly shifted. I didn't enjoy it as much. Just because I think F3 is a funny moment in a driver's career where you start to get quite close to F1, but you're still really far and you have all the pressures of sponsors and it almost feels like life or death.

Like I need to make it. Otherwise I don't know what I'm going to do. And that's how I felt when I was racing F3. It was, I don't know what I'm going to do outside of racing. So I've committed everything to it. And then you got to a point where it wasn't worth it anymore. Yeah, I stopped halfway through the F3 season in 2020 just because, I mean, I went into that year needing to be champion to keep the sponsors and that was the goal. It didn't work out, just struggled with the team.

the performance of the car and probably myself i could have done things better and yeah it just didn't work out and then i was planning to go into f2 the next year and carry on racing but that didn't end up happening. So that's where it all sort of stopped and it can stop really fast. Yeah. I didn't plan to retire from racing, let's say, but it did end up being the case. So it was tough. And mentally, like that is a...

Big hit. And how old were you then? So I was 20, 21 at this point. So even then I was feeling the pressure of I'm getting too old as well. at 20 i find that so bad about motorsport just the pressure was like more and more and more so and then so you stop racing

And then at what point do you say, OK, what next? Because, I mean, there's lots of other ways to go racing. Yeah, for sure. I think I remember having meetings about looking into GTs, Formula E. There was options out there, but I was still kind of... set on formula one and we were looking at f2 but then at that point even stopping midway through all the seats are gone for the year after so then f2 wasn't an option

and then yeah i just kind of had three months where i didn't think about racing i didn't want to i was like let's just separate myself just for a little bit uh and then quadrant came along so then i didn't really look back to racing because i saw quite a big opportunity here and it was something i was enjoying doing and i sort of not to sound really deep but i i felt happy again you know like a bit more

positive about life instead of being in this zone of just racing if you don't make f1 you're a failure life sober that's how i was thinking maybe a little bit more freedom like you can take hold of your own life because I mean, in a way, you've been told what to do since you're like 9, 10, because you have to do this to get there, to get there, to get there. Whereas now, I guess it's a bit like you can kind of take the reins back a little bit. Yeah, I felt relief, happiness again.

Like you said, it was just a big combination of things that I felt and then I didn't end up going back to racing. I think the first year I started with Quadrant, there was always that still looking for opportunities.

And then racing slowly fizzled out as an option for me. So then we should talk about Lando. You've known Lando for a very long time. You raced together when you were younger. At what point was... the split at what point did he sort of go full in and then you stopped how did that then feel did your relationship strain at any point did he say to you no you should keep going did you say did you ask him for advice at that point

So we were really close in karting. When we were 12, 13, we got along really well in the team. And then he went to cars a year earlier than me. He did Janetta, then F4. He won British F4 2015. Then I won it in the exact same car the year after in 2016.

But then when we both got single-seaters, we weren't as close, I think, because we were just so focused on our own careers. We didn't have time to... We'd see each other at tracks every now and then, but it wasn't crazy. And then once the opportunity with Quadrant came along, that's when... we became a lot closer once again not that we never were but it was tough we were just so focused on our own paths and then no i didn't really reach out to him for advice i think it was

just my own decision it was not much anyone else could have really said to me yeah point and i feel like motors like would you say that motorsport okay it's a very much a team effort to get a car on track and around the track

But I feel like it's very solo once you're in that car and the way you have to think about your movements are very individual. It is a team game for sure, but it's also... I think the most important team in racing is yourself and your managers and your family or people around you because you jump from team to team.

That varies. Okay, F1's different. You join, like, Lando's been with McLaren many years now. That's a solid team around him that he's comfortable with. But when you're in the junior categories, you just spend one year with the team and move on. Yes, of course, you bond with the guys and you become a close unit, but...

Throughout your career, you always have the same team of your managers and the people around you. So that's the most important team. Do you think it can be lonely though? I find it lonely. Yeah. Especially when you have a bad day. uh and your family's not there or whatever and you go back to the hotel room and it's just you and yeah it's hard to find people that get it especially when you're like 19 20 yeah to like to speak to other 19 20 year olds

They're just not going to get it. I think I was lucky in the sense that a lot of my close friends now, well, pretty much all of them are drivers as well. So I was able to talk to them and even drivers I was racing against, I was really close with. I was always able to talk to other guys that get it. Yeah, because this is something I'm excited to talk about with the guests that we're going to have, is how the different worlds of motorsports interact.

And like some of the guys we're going to speak to are super, are like teenagers, babies. Yeah. And whether they have that network around them in whatever sport they do. Yeah. And how important that is to them. Because I don't think it's healthy for them to... tackle these things alone at that age no it's definitely not it was yeah it was hard it was hard and then I mean I always look back and if I could redo it now with obviously the knowledge everyone would probably say it but

Yeah, would you change anything if you could go by now? There's probably a lot of change. I try not to think about all this and I don't want to be that salty ex-driver that blames everything but himself. There's definitely hundreds of things I could have done better. But then there's also a few choices, either team wise or series I picked or whatever that I think about quite a bit. Yeah. But like you said, it's it's.

you've had that experience and it's because i was i did some research about you max i did do some reading and you did do some formula one testing you've driven a formula one car before even to have that experience is nuts like that's crazy to say you've done that I think I was actually really glad that I was able to do that. Like mentally to tick that off. But I did. I did something, you know. Didn't get to F1, but I was able to test and...

I didn't do too bad. So I look back on my racing positive and it was an amazing journey. I can't look back. Otherwise, I just wouldn't sleep at night thinking I should have joined this team at this point. You've done that corner slightly differently. Because F3 and F2 is such a... fragile part of a driver's career where they can you just join the right team you have a good six races it's not many races in the year and you can either be going to f1 you get a lucky break or

you just you don't drive again so but then i guess it's opened you up now so that you have that chapter of your life and then you can go on to the next whereas a lot of drivers their career is just driving and yeah okay they can be the best in the world but

For you, you can open doors to new things like something like Quadrant. Exactly. And actually, I think what we, I hope we're going to be able to do is create our own little community of drivers, of... people that love drivers, of people that love athletes. And also maybe like, I'd love to speak to managers.

of athletes that'd be so interesting negotiations deal with those personalities and how they work and you know trainers and all of that i think there's so much more to it than just the drivers they're just one cog in a big machine I look back on it with positivity now and it was just an awesome journey and experience something I'm so lucky to have have experienced because I know there's a lot of young drivers out there that do karting and then they can't go any further than that so

I was lucky to be able to reach the heights of F3, get to test F1 cars, have so many cool opportunities. And then I think I feel even luckier now with the position I'm in that Quadrant came along. And I started doing it because Lando... I mean, he knew I wasn't doing anything at the time, and so I'd just come and do a few YouTube videos of me. I just started this thing, Quadrant, and it'd be nice to have a mate on there and have a laugh.

That's literally how it started. I didn't have any expectations to be heavily involved. I just joined for a couple of YouTube videos. And it was at the time we were living together. And it just slowly snowballed from there. And I really saw an opportunity. I think the key thing for me with Quadrant, it gave me a purpose again of something to chase, something to work on. And that's been the biggest blessing with Quadrant, I think, for me. Something to create as well. Yeah.

Again, I think with a lot of athletes, their lives have to be their sport and maybe they don't have that space to do stuff. on the side i mean you know lando's lucky he's got this he's got us doing this for him while he's just flying around the world um so to have that outlet i think is quite important and i guess like really good for your brain 100 I was losing my mind the first kind of three months of not doing anything. It's not healthy to live like that. Every day I'd either be...

Think about the next race, training, I'll go see the team for data. There was always something I need to look forward to, build towards, work on. And now I have that same feeling with Quadrant, which is like massive for me. It's been an absolute blessing to be able to do this. And also, I guess it's nice because it, you know.

you've got you're able to work with Lando but in a very different way because I'm wondering whether you ever get bored of being asked about Lando and your connection to him when actually it's like your mates that's fine but what you do is very different yeah i i wouldn't say i ever get bored of it you know i'm i'm very aware of he's given me such a great opportunity

And I'm really grateful for the position I'm in now and heavily because of him. So I'll never be bored of people asking me. It's just part of it now. So I don't necessarily feel like I'm in his shadows or whatnot.

i just feel like we're he's brought me along and we're building something together and we're just close friends as normal away from him being an f1 driver which was like quite strange to see how it's progressed of I bet that is weird just hanging out normally before and then now if we go for lunch in London or something it's just you can't which is definitely weird F1 driver now just is celebrity

Like the two are synonymous. Yeah, he is. He can't just walk around now. It's really weird. Which is strange because I think motorsport is like the opposite of celebrity. Like the day-to-day is so not...

glitz and glamour like i'm i mean i'm not in motorsport but i know a lot of people that are and i've been around it a lot and that is not glamorous no it's a grind like go to silverstone on not a on a grand prix day it's not the rainy test days and all of that it's it's tough it's messy and loud and once you f1's a bit better i think you get looked after as a driver for sure in f1 you know someone's holding the umbrella for you but

The whole journey to get there is not glitz and glamour. But I also think that's the heart of it though. Yeah. Like that's the heart of motorsport. And actually it's going to be interesting talking to the different people on where they think the heart is in their sport and whether... Because you could argue that F1 is losing its heart at the moment, the way it's going. It's just getting bigger and bigger and it's where the heart of it is kind of being left behind a little bit when you look at...

Silverstone it's not really about the racing anymore it's about who's there almost yeah i get your point and you can almost see it with f2 as well even the f2 drivers are starting to get a lot more popular and like before that was just never the case even when i was in f3 there was no attention it was just like

go out there and do your job and it's such a catch-22 because you need the attention because you need the sponsors you need the sponsors so it's finding that balance yeah for sure it's an interesting point but i think even that like getting to the heart of why

There's so many athletes now that do social media and they do lots of stuff around their sport and you have people questioning why they're doing that, why they're not focusing on the sport. Actually to hear from them and understand that route and actually it's really important that they do all of that. alongside and i think lando was kind of one of the first drivers to really open up like f1 before say netflix was

The drivers are really inaccessible, really. If you went to a race weekend, you'd probably only ever see them with their helmet on driving past you at 200 miles an hour. So I think Netflix, I mean, people have a lot to say about it. I think it's done good for the sport. It's put a lot of fans in and made the drivers more accessible.

I think Lando really kicked off that personal side when he started doing the live streaming and all of his social medias with his vlogs and whatnot. Especially the live streaming and then now Quadrant doing... he started off doing gaming videos at home which no other driver was doing so he was definitely one of the first to really open up his personal side to the

general public which no tribe has done before really and then create that community like the quadrant community off the back exactly and that's now what we're building on yeah which is super exciting and i'm really excited and like to share with

I'm excited to speak to the athletes and understand their journeys and their stories and how we can relate. I mean, me trying to relate to an athlete is going to be hilarious, but I'm going to give it a go. I'm sure you're going to have a lot more to say. I think as well. You have that experience in motorsport and being an athlete in racing. And I guess what I can bring is an experience in the car world, but also being a woman around that. I think...

However you're attached to the motorsport, big or small, being a woman is, it's just slightly different. And I think it can have its negatives. Don't get me wrong. But I also think it's really positive. Like it's really exciting to do something that not many people have done before you. I think it can be really powerful. I think so. I hope so. And I hope we get to speak to a lot of women.

in various different sectors of motorsport and get their story and what they're trying to do. That's why we're here. Yeah. And that is why we're here. I know. And I'm excited. And I guess hearing people's pressure is so interesting because... Any sport is built on being competitive, being sort of aggressive, having that pressure, but then understanding where exactly that comes from. Like, are you a competitive person at heart or did you have to build on that?

I think I was always competitive. Like I really hated, as a lot of people say, but yeah, it really like annoys me and had a bad race weekend. I would think about it overnight. And yeah, I think. just that is you've just got that naturally i think if you then commit to a sport i don't know how i mean obviously every athlete's different and they have their own way of doing it and that's really cool to which i hope we find out yeah through their perspectives of how they

How competitive are they? How they deal with a bad result and things like that. Yeah, I was always super competitive. I think it does just naturally come. Yeah. That's how you then get attracted to wanting to do a sport, you know? Absolutely. And I think it's interesting talking about...

competitiveness and being competitive at the moment is quite a difficult topic sometimes because there's a lot around like toxic masculinity and one of the there's a few traits that people don't like which is competitiveness and aggressiveness and sport is that perfect place for that because it's so normal like women feel it as well you have that inner aggression and this is the place to activate that and have it out and actually

It's like teaching men to do that and then have another side to them, but also at the same time teaching women to have the calmer side, but also let that aggression out as well. Like we've just seen the lionesses win. Awesome. And everyone is celebrating how fierce they are. Yeah. And I can't wait to speak to other women in sport. It's going to be super exciting. Especially for me, I'd love to hear their perspective of their journey through motorsport as a woman.

Because it's something I really want to understand a lot more. Obviously, I've had my journey, same as thousands of other male drivers. So it'd be really cool to get their side of it. And also probably how much it's changed from you. Because I mean, like it wasn't even that long ago that you went through it. No, but I think even I stopped five years ago now. And I do think there's been a really massive positive change in the last five years, like huge compared to when I stopped to now.

for women in motorsport. When you were karting, how many girls would you see aged 10? I only ever saw two that I raced against and they were always the same two. Crazy, isn't it? I wonder what it would look like now, like going to a go-karting track. Probably quite a lot more. Maybe five. But I think it's a slow process. Yeah, two. I only ever remember.

And then as well, I guess it's interesting because we talk about motorsport in as in like high level Formula One, Formula Two, Formula Three. But there are so many different types of racing. You have the endurance rally. Yeah. the bikes motor gp super bikes there is hundreds so much so much that's my quadrant's great because we've got such a good mix of athletes like across the board and to hear

I mean, I don't know how half of these sports work. So I'm really excited. That's the journey we're going on. And we want to showcase and put spotlight onto all these different motorsports and even multiple cultures or car cultures and just...

Spread the word about it and create this massive community around cars, driving, racing, whatever it may be. Yeah. Super excited. That's the plan. And also to hear from you guys, the people watching, the people listening, what you guys want to hear, what you want to see, who you want us to talk to. We'll do our best to get them on and have a chat.

Now, we have a special question, don't we? We do. This is something we're going to be doing the whole time. I don't have to look into the camera for this. So, everyone listening, on the quadcast, we're going to be... finishing each episode with the same question to every guest no matter who they are and that is and i'm going to ask you this question now what is your first memory of motorsport

Now, I knew this question before we sat down. And what I haven't done is think of an answer. It's a great question. I'm glad we've thought of it to ask all our lovely guests. My first memory of motorsport. see i think for me it's going to be cheating because i mine's just going to be my first memory of cars because to me cars are the heart of it and they'll always be the heart of it but i just remember being

I just remember being in one of the various Land Rovers my family has had over the years. This one was black. It was called Buster because I used to name all the cars. And it... I think it was a 110 and it had that frame, like a roll cage, but massive. And we used to take it out in summer. And I remember like physically playing on it, like a swing when I was aged sort of two, three.

not really understanding what I was playing with, but I loved it. And I, for me, it was just... cars meant my dad so cars meant an opportunity to spend time with my dad like going to the shops where that was i've cleaned so many cars covered them in grit, covered them in dirt with a sponge that's been dropped a million times. But if ever I was around cars, I was with my dad. So for me, that was always gonna be a happy memory. And I guess I'm lucky now that I get to do that.

I get to follow in his footsteps and kind of do what he does. So I'm going to cheat and say that's my first motorsport memory. That's fully acceptable. But what is yours? I'm sure you've got a good one. My first memory of motorsport. So...

This was before I even went to a go-kart track for the first time. Well, this is what made me go to a go-kart track and get into racing. It was the Singapore Grand Prix 2008. And I mean, I had my own Hot Wheels at the time. I was only... eight years old nine years old love cars already as every most guys do um but i remember my dad had tickets to the f1 and it was in town again i was eight i didn't really know what was going on but i knew kind of what f1 was roughly

loud cars racing i remember getting in the taxi and we we went to the track and i remember getting out opening the door and this car flew past that we got out the taxi and it was quite close to the track track was just like 20 meters over there And it was the V8 back then. The sound of it coming past. I literally just stood up. I was like, what was that? Then we ran up to the grandstand and I just remember the car and driver that stuck out to me the most.

was lewis in the chrome mclaren with the yellow helmet and then that was it i was just obsessed lewis like i then got obsessed with lewis started supporting him like And that was it. That was just slowly how I got into racing. And then I went to the go-kart track and then everything else unfolded. That was it. That was it. The sound. And then I spotted the chrome car with the yellow helmet. I was like, that is amazing. That's what I want to do.

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Kind of to the end. And what's coming up next? What's coming up? We'll obviously get Lando on. We'll probably have to get Lando on. We'll go Quadrant Athletes as well. Kind of highlight their stories. Go a bit deeper with them. That would be awesome. Other F1 drivers. Yeah. I mean, every corner of most of what we can do. Even mechanics. The stories that you just don't see. Yeah. That don't get highlighted over a race weekend. Most GP guys. Exactly. The girls.

All the girls. I want to hear all of their stories. Mechanics is going to be really cool. Maybe some managers. Team bosses. Strategy. Really keen. Yes. Other F1 drivers. Got to be done. I'm excited. I think it's going to be really fun. And we're getting these out. Pronto. We're going to do bi-weekly, I think. Bi-weekly. That's a lot.

We're going to have to get good at yapping, Max. I know. I've got to work on my hosting skills. No, I think we're going to be fine. All we need to do is yap. That's what you've got to teach me, how to host a podcast. I'm good at yapping. I can do that. You can bring the knowledge.

I'll bring the chat. I'll try to bring some knowledge. The guests can bring the stories. Yeah. And it's going to be amazing. It's going to be awesome. Well, thank you guys so much for listening and watching. Next week, we've got a very special guest, Mr. Lando Norris. Thank you so much. We'll see you then.