Biden’s All Part of the Plan

Watkins family next. The people currently run a h chan. But then the roller coaster US election happened, and as we know by now, Joe Biden has one Trump is claiming he cheated and he won't leave, and the whole world is sat on the edge of their seat watching. For regular Trump supporters, the election has been a disaster, but for Q and On it's been even worse. It's been a day of historic reckoning. None of them saw coming.

So instead, in this episode, we're going to be looking at the extreme reaction Q and On's have had to Biden winning the election. It will give you an idea just how indoctrinated with Qu's plan many of them are will also be speaking to someone who has believed in Q but is now having second thoughts on who's actually behind it all. So within the Q and On universe, there's a big mix of different reactions to the election

right now. I've been looking over a lot of them in the last few days, and they range from complete hysteria and shock to a kind of calm just follow the planned delusion. Some have realized Q is fake, whilst others have only doubled down on their beliefs. It's been wild online, but it's also getting a bit sketchy away from the keyboard, because one Q and On follower maybe to turn outside a polling station with a rifle and

a handgun. We'll get onto that in a minute, but first let's look at the last time Q himself posted. So the last Q drop was November three, the day of the election. In the Q drop, it's mostly just a quote from Abraham Lincoln. It reads as following quote, This nation, under God shall have a new birth of freedom, and that government of the people, by the people, for the people shall not perish from the earth. Abraham Lincoln,

November eighteen sixty three. Together we win Q end quote now, naturally, it sounds as if Q was very confident that Trump was about to be re elected in that last drop. That would fit in with the Q and On plan that's been touted for three years now, and according to all Q and On before the election, it would be a Trump landslide. They were absolutely certain of that from the videos, all the messages that I watched. They effectively knew in their bones that it would be a big

Trump victory. When he lost, they first took on Trump's line that the Democrats were cheating, it was unfair, and then they began to absorb the catastrophe for them, at least into part of queues plan. To give you an idea of the ups and downs for the Q and On followers this last week, and to expand on that a little bit more, let me read you some of

the stuff they've been saying online. Here, a user called Carry asks why is Q so silent, because obviously Q hasn't posted any drops since November three, And then one user confidently reassures Carry, saying because he's busy taking part in the plan. Have faith. Here's another user, he says, the quicker. They call it the quicker. We can expose it, do not fear if they call for Biden trust the plan and then as dorm emoji. And then a reply to this says, Joe has to win dark to light.

So this whole dark to light idea is that Biden, now, this is what they're saying, has to get in for the dark to take place, and then for the light of Q and on and Trump to sweep in and put everything right. Here's another post. This guy is really starting to lose faith, he says, So you're ready to give up and just admit that this is now Venezuela. We've been duped by the whole que thing. By the way, the reference to Venezuela is because they somehow believe that

hardcore neoliberal democrats are the same as communists. It's very weird. But yeah, So they're trying to say that the US is now becoming Venezuela because Democrats have taken over. To this guy, users respond, we are at the peak of the seventeen Intelligence Plan. Keep calm, it's all under control. The original poster says, I'm thinking we've been played. Someone else replies, no, we are now watching this movie National Treasure. Think Lemon's enjoy the show, and then the original poster says,

I don't even know what that means. Man, Yeah, neither do I mate. This guy is clearly deflated and he's come to the realization that the Plan Acques plan is never gonna happen. This final message, though, for me, says it all. It tells you about the huge crisis of faith Q and ons are having right now. It's from a user called Joe m. He says, day five of the quote necessary Scare event is here. I am in the unexpected place of having to talk patriots off the

ledge who were rock solid until November three. Even as I celebrate Trump's win while marveling at the surprise twist and the greatest story told in two thousand years, there are still many who were so shocked at seeing the world's president elect Biden that they've forgotten everything they have learned. Well, I haven't. I read every queue drop in real time.

I watched the deltas, the extreme shifts in standard deviation, and the hundreds of undeniable proofs that are told of a military grade plan that was so sophisticated it would make your head spin. And tell me that again, Um, I am comfortable and at peace because I know how to stick to the constants. Biden and the deep state machine behind him are going to be brought down before January.

Trump will show he won almost every state, if not all, and Patriots are going to keep on all caps lock here, winning, winning, winning, That is a mathematical certainty. More caps lock, stay strong, and let's finish this so you can see this guy is extremely certain. Let's see what happens on a January. That's when he thinks Trump was sweeping and take everybody out.

Now many of them are desperate, clearly. And whilst that's kind of funny, can a doing the horrific vitriol and calls to violence from Q and ons over the last three years, It must actually be quite terrifying for them. It's essentially for them discovering that the cult you were following is just that a cult. Either that or people think that Q is somehow being attacked and defeated. These ideas, like I said, they're kind of funny, but actually they

can create seriously dangerous consequences. Something we've got a glimpse of this last week on November five, two armed men with a Q and on sticker on their Humvy, were arrested near the Philadelphia Convention Center, where an ongoing vote count was taking place. The police have been given a tip off that they were on their way to the convention Center for what. We don't know yet. Many speculate that it could have been a planned attack, but again

we're not actually sure yet. The men have been charged with carrying a concealed firearm without a license and carrying a firearm on public streets or public property. At least one of the men, a man named Antonio LaMotta, is confirmed from his online history to be an ardem Q and ON supporter. Before that, he was a big support of the Anonymous Movement, a much less dangerous quasi hacker group you might remember from the old days of four chant Now. When police apprehended Lama, he had a nine

millimeter Barretta in his holster. The other man arrested, a man named Joshua Massius, was found with a forty caliber Barretta inside his jacket. Inside the Humvey, and assault rifle and ammunition were found. Police also found a Q and ON hat. Now, an attack was possibly averted here. We won't know until police investigations are completed and I'm not going to speculate on what these guys were actually lee

up to. I've seen Q and say that they were just going to defend democracy by standing outside this center, but again, no one actually knows yet. I'm sure we'll find out eventually. Now, due to this recent chaos in the Q and on world, especially the attack, especially the seeming breakdowns of some of them online, I wanted to have a genuine Q and On follower onto the show to at least hear their side of things. And now

I know you've been thinking, Jake, are you mad? And look, I don't believe in giving credence to outlandish conspiracy theories. Absolutely not. That's why I'm making this whole series to say, this is why Q and On is a scam, and here's who's behind it. But I do think we'd all benefit from having a semi normal conversation about all of this chaos and anger that is sprouting from Q and

on and the election right now. Now, I don't necessarily believe in my platform in so I reached out to some of the big gets que and On accounts out there. I was hoping to have some kind of debate with him as I just said, and I don't know. Maybe I'm naive, but I thought it was possible. Turns out not one of them even replied to me, let alone even agreed to come on to q clearance. At least a few of them, I know, definitely saw my messages as well, so they can't say, oh, we didn't know

about it. They saw it. So instead I managed to speak to a guy who's more of a q and On follower rather than one of the big names in the movement. He's a young guy from Texas. His name is Brett, and he's been interested in que and On from the start. But he said to me that he's now having some serious doubts. He seems to be jumping back and forth between is Trump gonna swoop in? And obviously qun On was a hoax. I don't think he quite knows what he thinks yet, but he's definitely on

shaky ground when it comes to his que and On beliefs. Now, Whilst I feel that Brett was a bit lost in his ideology and leaning too heavily into conspiracy theories, of course, I don't think Brett is a bad guy. He didn't seem like a bad guy. I just think sadly he's gotten caught up in the Q and on a universe a little bit too much. In fact, he even said himself that some of them were kind of acting authoritarian

when he questioned anything. I'm going to just let this conversation one for a bit, as I think it's quite illuminating to hear from a Q and on follower firsthand. So have a listen to this. Um so, So maybe firstly, just explained to me when you first heard about Q, and I guess your initial reaction to it probably late twent seventeen, if I were to guess, I feel like I remember hearing about it like online, like this person Q is doing drops or whatever as a secret government whatever,

and it's a secret to military coup or something. I was skeptical at first, of course, as everyone should be, and then I kind of looked into it, and I had an app on my phone that gives you the Q drops, and towards the beginning I believed it more just because it seemed more legit, like I think it was on four chan at that time. It seemed a little more legit. And then as times went on, like the drops got a little bit more confusing and not

as like clear cut. So when when you first saw que and you started reading the drops, what was it that made you think like, wow, okay, maybe this is legit. Well, first, the like the proofs of like how it's how it was always kind of like with a Trump tweet. So it would be like the Trump tweet, and then like either right before or right after or almost right on,

it would be a Q drop. So that would be kind of like my, oh, that's kind of interesting because you know they could be in the same room, like here type the tweet boom at the same time. Let's just there is second because I think it's worth pointing out that this can actually be done with bots. You can set up a bot to put the posts out at the same time as a Trump tweet, or simply it can be a coincidence. There are hundreds of Q drops, and a few of them line up with just after,

just before, on the same time as Trump tweets. Trump tweets very regularly. Que drops came very regularly. It's not that big of a stretch that these two things would happen to coincide. Anyway, Let's move on with the interview. So that's when I was kind of like it could be yeah, Um, and when the thing that I always wanted though, right, so the first ever Q drop, right like Q said, We're going to arrest Hillary Clinton and then it didn't happen. I mean, what, how would you

explain that in your head? If you know what I mean, I can't. Honestly, I still don't understand why within like a couple of years that she and a bunch of people have been haven't been arrested or at least tried. I think she went to court a few months ago,

but nothing really came out of that. So it's it just feels like more of a Trump propaganda thing to me now that it's more just to keep his most like really fanatic loyal people kind of calm down or docile would be the word I would use to not you know, maybe be as violent as they might be

in the future or might be planning. Because I really as as someone who lives in Texas and around a lot of guns, Like literally, um, what you just heard then was Brett turning around on picking up on a soult rifle to show me on the webcom as we spoke on Zoom. There's a lot of people that really want a silver war right now and and probably might come to that actually, so it could be just the thing to start uh civil war. Honestly, you think like

you could provoke something like that. Yeah, yeah, how come you know, there's just been so much like propaganda from every other country, like China. China does the same thing. They they make everyone scared two and they telling each other for doing the wrong thing if the the CCP doesn't want you to do, you know, talking about the government with the like Muslim camps and stuff. It's it's kind of the same thing because once you once you start questioning like C then like Q supporters are like,

why are you questioning the plan? You should be trusting the plan or you know a cute you know, blah blah, And then it's like it's kind of turning into almost like a religion in a way, like a cult. Yeah, coult that too. Yeah, it's like they've become authoritarian, right because if you say, hang on, this is kind of weird, then they go quite easy. Like in seeing people at like Trump rallies and stuff wearing like Q shirts and like bring up Q signs and stuff, and Trump like

port pointing to it. It's also kind of weird because it's like he's kind of reaffirming that that it might be a thing, but like, you don't, no one really knows. All you can do is take the straws and try to connect them. So when you thought it, like you know, a question and what kind of things would you say to that to the community. There's a channel called Edge

of Wonder. I think they got banned off YouTube a few weeks ago and is from Robin Ben and they they made a lot of videos on like q Q drops and stuff, and that also got me like really kind of like, oh, this could be really a thing,

and they kind of aligned everything up. But since they've gotten banned, they have their own platform, and it's like, I don't want to pay for once you start trying to sell people on stuff and trying to make money like monetarily, it's weird if it's sketchy for me, because it's like you might just be doing this for money to get these fanatic people or like possibly schizophrenic or mental illness people to like you know, like pay their hard earned money to like keep falling into the trap

that or believing that something might happen. Hillary Clinton's gonna get taken down, the whole corrupt government gonna get swiped out. But right if it was like a grift, almost, yeah, I would have I would have been probably more full force if like Hillary got arrested, you know, just more movement, like actually draining the swamp. Within a decent amount of time,

nothing has happened. Actually, Like if you look at what Q has said, I don't know, maybe you've seen well I haven't seen anything actually come true of you, mm hmmm, not that I can remember. Like during like the coronavirus and stuff. That's when like the crackdown was or supposedly starting, so that like I remember this when it started, They're like, oh, this is gonna give him enough time for long. Werest meant to go in and start resting people and start

taking things down. And it's like, really, nothing really happened. What point did you start doubting Q thinking might be not probably like pretty soon after the election, and like, really nothing happened where I was like, something big has to happen eventually, Like I don't know, maybe it's all a part of the plan. Maybe they waited till election and it's all part of the plan for them to like let the Democrats try and steal the election and use that as like their way to like show like

how you know, fraudulent these people are. But it's again like maybe that's the propaganda speaking and it's just like it's kind of like believing God instead of trying to comprehend that maybe maybe there isn't a God, or maybe it's a different type of God or right. Well, but in the sense of Q, it's like the equivalent would be, well, actually, maybe Q is just someone winding us up. Yeah, that too.

It's like at that point you have to listen to Ocams Razor and kind of be like, you know, something's going on here, you know, there might be you know, it's all I think it's all just the war for people's minds at this point, I just want to go back to what you said about Q. So, now, obviously, like you just said, Biden has been elected. Um, the Q and on people are saying, now that actually is

all part of the plan. Still, they're saying, oh, they Q allowed Biden to be elected, because when the storm comes and we finally kicked them out, it's going to be an even even bigger shock to the liberals. What do you think about that? I kind of really again, I really wanted to happen because I really hate these people these correct what I mean, come on, you think that's you really think the qu is gonna come in

sweeping at the last minute. I don't know. It could it could be all part of the plan, but it could just be the propaganda making me believe that, you know, right right, and just keeping like okay, you know, like I'm just gonna accept this, but we're gonna keep going. They're gonna keep going. They're gonna keep working on this.

And like people are now saying or like, um, there was a post on there where like uh, they're explaining how this is a whole sting operation, like they let the Democrats steal steal the election, like in a very obviously way with the ballots that are all tracked, they're all like barcoded or whatever, and they're just gonna they're all going in or like the National Guard is in twelve states or something. Now it's like I don't know

how legit that is. I can't verify it myself. I mean, i'd have to see a video or pictures or someone like showing these National Guard people, but I don't know, I doubt it they will have this right they're saying it is if it's a fact that like the National Guard already it's all put the plan, But like, what is that based on. I've been you know, as a podcast I'm doing, I've been constantly researching, cuing on stuff, and you know, there is nothing. It's just people saying stuff,

which it kind of has been the whole time. You know, it's like, well, where is the evidence exactly? And that's what I want. I just want good hearted evidence of something happening. And if that was Hillary Clinton getting arrested or John Podesta or well, I mean Epstein got arrested, we all know that ended up. And then now Maxwell is That's the thing is no one really knows except

for the people that have the Q clear clearance. And you're like maybe, in like the first couple of years, I would be like, okay, you know, like I it's it's something interesting, it's something to think about. But now it's like I don't know anymore. Well, here's here's one thing. Like, as we're touching on the kind of child abuse element, which is obviously a big part of Q and on This is something I've always wanted to ask, Like, you know, someone has believed in Q or does his Q, and

I'm curious, Um, why why is it? Do you think? Then? You know Q was completely again child trafficking, completely against petophilia obviously, as any normal human being with a with a soul should be. However, Q was posting on a chan right, all of his jobs were on h chan. Well, child pornography is shared on h chan. I mean why would Q use that platform? That's a good point, Like I there's no reason for it except for like, we're

just gonna use whatever board we want it. I mean, they could have literally set up their own website, right, If this guy's got a Q clearance, he should surely be tech savvy and off to set up a website exactly. It's like, just make your own website and then it can be however secure you can have people posting I don't know, from what I've seen, UM with a lot of believers want it to be real, and I think a lot of them know it isn't now, but they wanted to be real and they can't quite let it go,

you know. Yeah, After speaking with Brett, I think it's clear that he's not a hard core Q and On supporter anymore. Even so, for three years of his life he believed in some very far out conspiracy theories, and in many ways he still does. But he has been lucky enough to crawl out the other side of the Q and On universe. For many, though, they're still clutching

on for dear life. As we heard at the start of the episode, I think part of the grip of Q and On is the followers trying to find some kind of meaning, some kind of community that's bigger than themselves in a world that otherwise doesn't make sense to them. That and a pathological devotion to a reality TV businessman turned US President and an anonymous leader called Q. Ultimately, though, I think Trump is the cold leader by proxy and

Q is the spokesman. Whilst it's easy to laugh at the Q and Ons, as admittedly I have many times, it's also worth trying to understand how they all fell for this for so long. Hopefully, in the last three episodes of Q, Clearance will make that even easier for people like Brett who are losing their faith in Q. Next episode, as planned previously, will dig deep into the Watkins family, showing how they stole the famous two channel website, how they took over H and and why I think

they know more about Q than they're letting on. Q Clearance is brought to you by I Heart Radio and CO Day to our media, I'm Jake Hanrahan. You can find me online at Jake Underscore Hand Rahan. That's h a N A h A N. This episode was produced by myself with fact checking by Sarah Hightower. The music is by Sam Black and the soundlow was were mixed by Thomas Griffin at Splicing Block m