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Pulling The Thread with Elise Loehnen

Elise Loehnentheelisepodcast.com
Writer Elise Loehnen explores life’s big questions with today’s leading thinkers, experts, and luminaries: Why do we do what we do? How can we understand and love ourselves better? What would it look like to come together and build a more meaningful world?

Episodes

Is This Our Push Up the Spiral? (Monthly Solo)

In this month’s solo episode, I’m sharing: The tools and people helping me to manage my fear right now. Thoughts on growing up versus waking up. The most important things I’ve learned from the Spiral Dynamics theory of human development, and Ken Wilbur’s concept of holarchies. What makes me believe there is a way for many of us to expand our worldviews and push up the spiral now. And more. For the show notes (and so many links if you want to go deeper), head over to my Substack. Learn more about...

Jun 30, 202557 min

Is Genius a Myth? (Helen Lewis)

In her new book, The Genius Myth, journalist Helen Lewis explores how and why we label certain people geniuses; and the impact this has on said geniuses, us, and culture at large. Today, we talk about our perception of the exceptional, and some of our more pernicious and dark misperceptions. For the show notes, head over to my Substack. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Jun 26, 20251 hr 2 min

A Formula for Coming Alive (Shannon Watts)

“Living on fire is really a metaphor for figuring out two things,” says Shannon Watts. “What is limiting you. And what is calling you.” Watts spent 11 years as the full-time volunteer lead of Moms Demand Action, which she founded. Now, as she puts it, Watts continues to summon the audacity of other women. Today, she shares so many useful life nuggets from her new book, Fired Up: How to Turn Your Spark Into a Flame and Come Alive at Any Age. For the show notes, head over to my Substack. Learn mor...

Jun 19, 20251 hr 3 min

Finding Faith in our Future (Krista Tippett)

“You're going to find a lot of people doing their best, revealing how beautiful and strange we are, and how remarkable we can be,” says Peabody Award-winning broadcaster and founder of On Being Krista Tippett. In this conversation, Tippett shares where we might turn for more hope and pleasure, and how she thinks about what shapes our presence in the world. For the show notes, head over to my Substack. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Jun 12, 202556 min

Should Romantic Love Be at the Center of Our Lives? (Melissa Febos)

In her new memoir, The Dry Season, Melissa Febos (award-winning author of Girlhood) examines her (and our culture’s) relationship to love, to falling in love with someone, to being in love with someone. Today, we talk about why she decided to spend a year celibate after a particularly rough breakup, and what more she wanted from a relationship, from herself, and for her life. We talk about being conditioned to be codependent, the lovely things that have happened in our own long-term relationship...

Jun 05, 202559 min

Moving Away from Hierarchy (Danielle Gibbons)

Okay, this is a wild one. Danielle Gibbons is not a psychic, but she is a channel—she channels messages from Mother Mary. Today, she’s sharing her origin story, and a message from Mother: about how to create something sustainable and meaningful, adapt to these ever-evolving times, and find a little bit of beauty right now. For the show notes, head over to my Substack. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

May 29, 202544 min

How Do We Get Efficient with Our Energy? (Monthly Solo)

In May’s monthly solo episode, I’m reflecting on: motherhood, my mom, the Performance of Parenthood, and what provokes my anger around Mother’s Day. How badly the world needs us all to hold a balance of the masculine and feminine—and how badly we need the feminine to rise in men. What it might look like if we didn’t operate out of fear. Applying my writing process and system to other areas of life. What keeps us from saying no, and what keeps us from saying yes—based on our Enneagram types. And,...

May 27, 202554 min

Is It Time to Stop Optimizing? (Coco Krumme)

“I think both of those things are problematic—both that we’ve optimized too many things and that it’s our sole worldview,” says Coco Krumme, applied mathematician and author of Optimal Illusions: The False Promise of Optimization. Today, we talk about what we lose by prioritizing optimization above all else—and what we could gain by choosing something else. We also talk about why Krumme thinks the threat of surveillance capitalism is overblown, and why she’s more optimistic about what humans can...

May 22, 202539 min

An Episode from Other People’s Problems: On Psychedelics

Here, I'm sharing another podcast series with you, called Other People’s Problems. In her new season, host and therapist Hillary McBride explores the potential power of psychedelics in a therapeutic setting. She leads clients through drug-assisted therapy—and we'll experience these real, unscripted sessions as they unfold, and get a more honest look at therapy using psychedelics. Which I hope helps to further demystify this often misunderstood practice and tool in trauma recovery. In this episod...

May 19, 202543 min

What the Next Big Astrological Shifts Mean for Us (Jennifer Freed, PhD)

Psychological astrologer Jennifer Freed, PhD, shares: What’s happening, astrologically speaking, that can inform the choices we make now, in the present. And she gives us a preview of what’s coming, and what opportunities the next astrological shifts will bring us. “Coming this summer, we will have a full transformation of planets and their signs,” says Freed. For the show notes and links to Freed’s latest projects, head over to my Substack. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices...

May 15, 20251 hr 2 min

Trusting in the Synchronicity of the Universe (Satya Doyle Byock)

Satya Doyle Byock is a psychotherapist, author of Quarter-Life, and a great teacher of Carl Jung’s work. She uses the I Ching, an ancient Taoist divination system, as a tool to help guide her life. (Not dissimilar to how others might consult tarot, astrology, Human Design, etc.) Today, we talk about the beauty of the I Ching, and much more. Including: How we’re seeking some combination of meaning and stability in our lives, a balance of the inner and outer world, and more harmony between rationa...

May 08, 20251 hr 5 min

But What If the Bible Doesn’t Say That? (Dan McClellan, PhD)

“It’s a shame that we lose so much of that history and we silence so many of those voices when we just try to flatten the whole Bible,” says scholar, TikTok hero, and author Dan McClellan. Today we talk about why McClellan has chosen to attend to questions about the Bible, and challenge people who want to translate it, or negotiate with it, to the benefit of their own dogma. We also talk about how he squares this with his own faith (McClellan became a Mormon at the age of 20). And we explore pas...

May 01, 20251 hr 2 min

Another Way of Seeing Betrayal (Monthly Solo)

For April’s guest-less episode, I’m looking back on the wild ride that was this month, and trying to make sense of this period of contemplation in my life. I share a few realizations I’ve had about: uncertainty (involving Phil Stutz’s “evil wedding cake” theory); betrayal (involving a special tarot reading with Mark Horn); whether or not I have faith that the universe will support me (involving a group workshop on what women want); and what we’re meant to be doing here (involving a gondola ride ...

Apr 28, 202554 min

A System for Getting What’s Missing in Your Life (Laura Day)

“ Here are my real tools—because fantasy tools give you fantasy results,” says Laura Day, New York Times–bestselling author and renowned psychic. Today we get into her new book, The Prism, and her simple, effective approach to the kind of change that is often tiny, and incremental, and yet can reconstruct your whole life. For the show notes, head over to my Substack. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Apr 24, 20251 hr 1 min

Navigating Different Systems of Morality (Kurt Gray, PhD)

What actually motivates us? When we disagree with someone else—how can we do it better? Social psychologist and author of Outraged, Kurt Gray, PhD, shares what he’s learned from studying the behaviors of people with different experiences. He corrects a few funny things we got wrong about human evolution. And he explains what “concept creep” and “the creep of harm” mean—and why we’re generally much safer than we think. We talk about what tends to give birth to polarization, why we behave the way ...

Apr 17, 202556 min

When Does Manifestation Work? (Anne Emerson)

“ My work is about getting the logjams out of your personal river so things can flow again,” says one-of-a-kind, intuitive coach Anne Emerson. Today, she outlines her process (holographic repatterning) for helping people to work through limiting beliefs—to recognize the false stories that we tell ourselves on repeat, and to break free from them. It’s perhaps surprisingly fun. For the show notes, head over to my Substack. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Apr 10, 202549 min

The Desire for Miracles and Wonder (Elaine Pagels, PhD)

For decades, Elaine Pagels’s work has been changing the historical landscape of Christian religion. She’s also changed the way many people, including myself, see the world. Pagels is a religion professor at Princeton University, and the author of seminal, award-winning books like The Gnostic Gospels, and her newest, Miracles and Wonder. We talked about the surprising things she’s learned about Jesus and his followers; what his most radical teaching was; and why Jesus, this essentially unlikely t...

Apr 03, 202555 min

Are You Holding Yourself Back? (Monthly Solo)

In this month’s solo episode, I spend some time thinking about why psychiatrist Phil Stutz observed that I’m holding myself back. And why I have a hard time with the idea of marketing, or promoting, my own work. I also share more about Phil’s concept of Part X—which gives you problems that you don’t need, and solutions to those problems that only make it worse. I think about how my own Part X has changed; and why it’s currently trying to convince me that I’m too good, too righteous, too pure…to ...

Mar 31, 202540 min

Activating Your Life Force (Phil Stutz, MD)

I had the great honor of writing a book with legendary psychiatrist Phil Stutz. Now that True and False Magic is out, I got to ask him about some of the concepts that have remained on my mind: the lie of certainty, the purpose of creativity, why some of the hardest parts of life are also what makes it compelling and fun, and why he believes I should be 10 percent more evil (and maybe you should, too). For our book, more of Phil Stutz’s work (including The Tools and Coming Alive), the documentary...

Mar 27, 202547 min

How to Love Better (Yung Pueblo)

Diego Perez is widely known by his pen name, Yung Pueblo. He’s a #1 New York Times bestselling author, and his latest book is How to Love Better. Today, we both share a bit about our own relationships, and what we’ve learned from our partners. We talk about the myths and archetypal relationships that are served to us, and how many of us have been conditioned to go into a relationship looking for someone to solve all our problems. We talk about more realistic ways to create harmony in a relations...

Mar 20, 202547 min

What Are Non-Speaking Telepathic Autistic Savants Trying to Teach Us? (Diane Hennacy Powell, MD)

Diane Hennacy Powell is now known as the neuroscientist from The Telepathy Tapes podcast (it’s created by Ky Dickens, and it’s great). Hennacy Powell trained at Ohio State University and Johns Hopkins School of Medicine, where she received her MD and psychiatric training. She has been on faculty at Harvard Medical School. And she is a leading expert on autism and savant syndrome. Her research focuses on autistic children who appear to have ESP as a savant skill—in other words, children who seem ...

Mar 13, 202552 min

Putting Action Before Contemplation (Richard Rohr)

This episode has been a very long time in the making: Richard Rohr is a Franciscan friar, the founder of the Center for Action and Contemplation, and one of the most profound teachers. Today, we explore the prescient themes from his new book The Tears of Things: Prophetic Wisdom for an Age of Outrage. He helps us to make sense of disorder, evil, anger, and grief—and he helps us to find our fulcrum of growth. He makes the case that the impulse to deconstruct is ultimately less useful than the imp...

Mar 06, 20251 hr 4 min

When You Quit Being Defensive (Chelsea Handler)

Chelsea Handler discusses stories from her new book, the importance of being open to feedback, and lessons learned in therapy about defensiveness. She emphasizes supporting other women, embracing one's shadow self, and the power of community. Handler also shares insights on jealousy, competition, and her experiences with skiing.

Feb 27, 202548 min

Who Is a Prophet, and Who Is Profiteering? (Monthly Solo)

After finally getting to meet the incredible Richard Rohr (interview coming to the podcast soon), I sat down to reflect on: The unlikely road I’ve been on to become so immersed in Christian writers (was never on my bingo card), and what I misunderstood in my original interpretation of Jesus. What I’ve learned about dying to your small self and growing into your big self. What it means to be a prophet—not a fortune-teller, but a truth-teller—and in this age of profiteering online, how we can be m...

Feb 24, 202543 min

Understanding Archetypal Evil (Thomas Hübl, PhD)

I’ve had a few conversations with spiritual teacher Thomas Hübl but I finally got to talk to him about the topic that’s been on my mind for a long time: evil. How do we define, and perceive what’s evil? What role does evil energy play in our own lives? What transgressions might we take responsibility for, and how? What moral conflict is part of our work, and what does not belong to us? What’s the purpose of it all? Where do we ultimately find and feel connection in the messiness of our lives? Fo...

Feb 20, 202556 min

How to Talk to People You'd Rather Hate (Loretta J. Ross)

Loretta J. Ross’s particular approach to deciding when, and how, to call someone in helps us to avoid making other people’s problem our problem. It gives us a way to effectively be in conversation with people capable of causing harm—instead of trying, and failing, to be in defense of the vulnerable. Ross shares what she’s learned from watching people be manipulated into hating, and from helping them to release that hate. She talks about addressing our own cognitive dissonance; the guilt trip wir...

Feb 13, 202552 min

Is this the Cure for Chronic Pain and Anxiety? (Nicole Sachs, LCSW)

Psychotherapist Nicole Sachs discusses her approach to chronic pain, anxiety, and other conditions through nervous system regulation. Drawing from Dr. John Sarno's work, she explains how emotional reservoirs can trigger pain signals as a form of protection. Her method involves 'journal speak' to lower emotional burdens, offering a surgery-free, cost-free way to find relief and live more fully.

Feb 06, 20251 hr 1 min

What We Got Wrong About the Female Body (Cat Bohannon, PhD)

There is a historical lack of research on the female body—and this has hurt women, men, everyone. But now, there is some fascinating research on the female body, which Cat Bohannon, PhD, shares today. (Bohannon is the New York Times–bestselling author of Eve: How the Female Body Drove 200 Million Years of Human Evolution.) For example, Bohannon explains why the fat around our butts and hips is quite special, and how women tend to metabolize painkillers differently than men. She breaks down the e...

Jan 30, 202545 min

Avoiding the Temptations of the Blame Game (Monthly Solo)

Elise Loehnen reflects on the Los Angeles fires, exploring community responses, the desire to help, and the complexities of blame. She discusses the importance of community, international support, and the challenges of insurance and climate change. Loehnen also touches on victimhood dynamics, over-functioning, and the need for functional aid in crises, emphasizing the resilience of children affected by the disaster and the importance of staying grounded amidst uncertainty.

Jan 27, 202539 min

Why We Go Along with Things We Don’t Like (Sunita Sah, PhD)

Why do we go along with situations that make us comfortable? What can we learn from nervous laughter, or a crocodile smile? If we’ve been conditioned to be overly compliant, how do we learn to be a little more defiant? How do we intuit when it’s the right time for us to comply, and when we’re better off defying? Sunita Sah—trained physician, Cornell University professor, organizational psychologist, and author of Defy—answers these questions and more. For the show notes and links to Sunita Sah’s...

Jan 23, 202555 min
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