Nope (Episode 189)
It’s a yes and a maybe for Jordan Peele’s Nope. This sci-fi/horror/allegory/monster blockbuster is breaking records and blowing minds — but can it live up to scrutiny or is it jsut a dish best served twice?

It’s a yes and a maybe for Jordan Peele’s Nope. This sci-fi/horror/allegory/monster blockbuster is breaking records and blowing minds — but can it live up to scrutiny or is it jsut a dish best served twice?
Shelby and Matt celebrate four years podcasting together. Marvel has the next four years planned at Comic-Con (5:25). Streaming might be changing…again. And Florence Pugh doesn’t want to talk about Don’t Worry Darling (28:30). For love it or hate it (35:10), Shelby recommends The Girl in the Picture and Matt finally saw the Backstreet Boys doc.
It’s weird pregnancy news first with Khloe Kardashian (1:25) then Errol Musk (5:30). Constance Wu has a humbling update (6:50). Kehlani will not be bothered (16:00). J Lo actually married the guy (20:10). And Will Byers is officially gay (22:10) which leads us to Emmy news (30:25). For love it or hate it (36:15), Matt is enjoying season two of Hacks and Shelby joins a chorus of praise for The Bear.
Shelby and Matt bring the love and the thunder as they talk about the latest entrant into the MCU. Thor: Love and Thunder is short and sweet but is it much else? With goats and jokes and Valkyrie in between, there’s plenty to talk about even if Taika Waititim’s vision didn’t have much to say.
Lea Michele officially ousted Beanie (6:20). Wicked is determined to be a two partner (11:20). Doja Cat thinks DMing minors is chill but posting those dms is wack (14:15). Heard vs Depp has a case of runaway juror (21:20). And Kim Kardashian is feeling totally chill about aging (25:15). For love it or hate it (34:40), Matt has his fingers crossed on the new reality show Claim to Fame and Shelby is here to tell y’all to see Mr. Malcolm’s List.
Shelby and Matt are running up that hill to figure out if the latest season of Stranger Things is the best -- or worst -- yet. With about 27 characters and almost that many hours, this episode is posesessed with the side stories, secondary locations and Soviet Union of it all. Is Matt the heart of the party? Can Shelby outrun the sense of dread? Is Jason all that bad? More questions than answers on this episode tbh
Shelby and Matt are in the building to talk about Baz Luhrmann, bad accents, and the king of pop and pompadours. But with a cliff notes approach and a nearly three-hour runtime, maybe what we really need is a little less Tom Hanks, a little more editing, please. Okay mama thank you, thank you very much
Shelby and Matt take a moment (0:35) to parse through the rollback of rights in this country so TW: abortion talk and also fascism talk and also wtf can we do now talk. Lighter news? Beyoncé has a new song (16:02). Alec Baldwin remains the worst (19:46). And Jack Harlow was at the BETs? (26:15). For love it or hate it (31:15), Shelby is feeling optimistic about Ms. Marvel and Matt thinks everyone should see Marcel the Shell.
Shelby and Matt come full circle as they revisit the Jurassic World trilogy and the franchise that’s been ruined three times over. With the return of the OG cast and rapidly reproducing dinosaurs on the loose, can this final film bring back some of the magic? Or were they just so preoccupied with whether or not they could make a movie about prehistoric locusts they didn’t stop to ask if they should?
Matt did Tribeca (0:45). Joker 2 might be a musical (7:55). Ripleys cannot believe you’re upset about the dress (14:25). Lea Michelle might finally make it (27:10). And a half dozen other stories came up (30:03). For love it or hate it (34:40), Shelby is disappointed by Lightyear and Matt is obsessed with Good Luck to You Leo Grande.
Shelby is here to give an insiders perspective on Under the Banner of Heaven, the Mormon true crime drama series starring Andrew Garfield and a dozen other plot points. With religious ramblings and a Q&A between Brother Matt and Sister Shelby, this episode may send them to heck in a hand basket.
Mathew Morrison shared his DMs (5:15). Morbius got a second chance (11:25). Scream lost its queen (13:45). The Heard vs Depp case is not good news (20:20). And Kesha might start hunting ghosts (27:10). For love it or hate it (30:05), Shelby shared her thoughts on Stranger Things Part 1 and Matt recommends Fire Island.
Someone attacked the Mona Lisa (7:05). Mathew Morrison is leaving So You Think You Can Dance (11:00). The Bachelorette proposed (19:05). So did Jack Antonoff (23:20). And Mormon mom tok is swinging into controversy (25:35). For Love it or hate it (31:10) Matt tips his hat to Downton Abbey and Shelby is watching The Staircase.
Shelby and Matt come together to share their thoughts on Men. Not generally, just the new folk horror from A24. With a limited cast and a prolific director, this ode/allegory to toxic masculinity doesn’t leave a lot of room for nuance. Is it adding to the conversation or is it just mansplaining masquerading as something new to say?
Saturday Night Live is losing some cast members (1:50). Kourtney Kardashian got married…again (9:50). Deauxmoi was officially exposed (15:30). And Laura Dern might have ruined Jurassic Park for us?? (25:00) For love it or hate it (30:35), Matt has thoughts on Harry Styles and Conversations with Friends while Shelby recommends a new movie The Valet.
Shelby and Matt are back for a movie review but first Shelby has to get something off her chest — that revolves around millionaires, Taylor Swift, and cucumbers (in that order). Then it’s on to Senior Year, the Netflix comedy starring Rebel Wilson and a whole slew of somebodies. Is it funnier than Isn’t it Romantic? Is it as dumb as Rotten Tomatoes would have you think? Idk but Shelby and Matt talk about it for the better part of an hour as they talk 90s nostalgia, attempted murder, and the mora...
Shelby and Matt have a lot of opinions about the new Doctor Strange, this era of MCU, and how a multiverse can be so dull. Spoilers abound but so do the hot takes and feminist rants around this divisive second film.
Shelby and Matt do a deep dive into SJW -- I mean, Captain -- Brie Larson as they talk all the child actor no one remembers to the Oscar winner MCU bros everywhere wish we'd forget. She is the quirky nerd to her peer's cool girl, but is it all an act? Does she have a dream? Is she desperate for fame? IS SHE ANY GOOD?! They break down the hate around her as they try to parse out what works and what doesn't before breaking down her entire filmography. Love her, hate her, but you're probably wrong ...
Shelby and Matt talk about Nic f**********cking Cage as they break down the splashy meta comedy Unbearable Weight of Massive Talent. From Hollywood jokes, to Nic Cage references, it’s not a question of if it worked but more was it worth it?
It's finally time to talk about Turning Red! Shelby and Matt might be late to the party but that just means they have more to say about this coming-of-age, pro-period Pixar flick that had conservatives feeling all sorts of way.
It’s a slow news week but they talk about Coachella (0:55) and the future of Fantastic Beasts (15:05) plus Barbie gets a shoutout (25:25). For love it or hate it (27:55) Shelby sees Flesh and Matt saw All the Old Knives.
Will Smith gets banned (0:31). Shelby tries to name a Shrek fan (9:55). Kylie Jenner has rules about red carpet (17:50). Jojo Siwa was nominated but not invited (22:55). Bennifer and Britney are reliving the 2000s (26:20). And Brie Larson finally made it (29:00). For love it or hate it (31:50), Shelby sort of recommends The Great and Matt is all in on Sonic 2.
Shelby and Matt talk about The Lost City and the return of the adventure romance genre. With a surprising cast and familiar beats, it's a lot of wondering what works — and what would have worked better.
There’s an update on The Slap (:40). Then an easy transition to The Grammys (11:45). They talk about Legally Blonde 3 (24:45) and then the sad news about Bruce Willis (27:30). For love it or hate it (33:40), Shelby watched Moonshot on HBO and Matt touts Killing It on peacock.
Shelby and Matt come back to talk about the Oscars — the good, the bad, and the Amy Schumer of it all. They start with the red carpet (:45) then dive into the show (8:12) and then finish off with the wins (42:15). Even without the Will Smith discourse, was this a night to remember or one the academy should be desperate to forget?
Shelby and Matt talk about the only thing that anyone’s talking about with this special roundup dedicated to Will Smith vs Chris Rock and the slap heard round the world. For love it or hate it (46:25), Matt saw Everything Everywhere All at Once and Shelby binged Bridgerton Season 2.
It's that time of year again! With the Oscars just a few days away, Matt and Shelby are ranking every movie they saw from 2021. Yes....every. single. one. What will top the list? What will send Shelby into a tailspin? What will make Matt scream in disgust? Listen to find out.