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PRODUCTEA with Leah, Growth & Senior Leadership

Leah Tharinwww.buzzsprout.com

Honest, unfiltered conversations with the best from tech - spilling the tea about product, growth, and senior leadership topics.

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110: Scott Brinker - Brand, AI, and the Uncomfortable Future of Marketing

Scott Brinker, HubSpot's VP of Platform Ecosystems and "Godfather of MarTech," unpacks the chaos of marketing tools, why AI won’t replace human strategy, and how vertical solutions beat bloated platforms. He reveals why marketers must balance brand-building with data myopia and why usage-based pricing is the future. Timestamps & Segments 00:03:36 – 00:07:00 | MarTech’s Explosion (And Why It’s Harder Than Ever) Scott explains why marketing has never been more complex despite tech advancements...

Jun 10, 202543 minSeason 4Ep. 59

109: Larry Robinson - How Instincts Outsmart Data in Product Leadership

Larry Robinson, CPO of Bright Plan and Salesforce veteran, unpacks how to balance data with gut instinct in product leadership. From hiring dilemmas to prototyping emotional reactions, he reveals why sometimes the "soft" skills of intuition and storytelling outpace spreadsheets. Hot takes on why your next MVP should prioritize passion over precision. Timestamps & Segments 00:00:00-00:07:00 | Data vs. Gut: The Product Leader’s Tightrope Larry’s framework for blending analytics with instinct i...

Jun 01, 202555 minSeason 4Ep. 58

108: Etie Hertz - Why customer empathy is now the moat

Etie Hertz, CEO of Loris.AI, breaks down how AI isn’t replacing humans - it’s unlocking superpowers for customer service teams. From analyzing 100% of customer conversations to predicting emerging issues before they blow up, he reveals how enterprises can turn empathy into a scalable strategy. Plus, why chatbots are headed for commoditization and the real value lies in the intelligence layer above. Timestamps & Segments 00:02:00 – From Lawyer to AI Disruptor Etie’s journey from predicting th...

May 25, 202540 minSeason 4Ep. 57

107: Andres Glusman: Why Your A/B Tests Are Lying (and How to Fix Them)

Andres Glusman, experimentation expert and former Meetup product leader, unpacks why 89% of experiments fail - and why that’s a good thing. From redesign pitfalls to balancing data with intuition, he shares hard-earned lessons on turning failure into explosive growth. It’s not about running more tests, but smarter ones. Timestamps & Segments 00:01:02 – 00:10:00 The Experimentation Conundrum Andres breaks down why most experiments fail, the "VC mindset" for testing, and why a 65% loss rate is...

May 20, 202549 minSeason 4Ep. 56

106: Evie Brockwell - Burnout, Boundaries & Breaking the Hustle Cycle

Evie Brockwell unpacks why 92% of PMs are crispy-fried – and why "just meditate more" isn't the answer. We dissect toxic sprint culture, ADHD-friendly boundary hacks, and why treating burnout like a product churn problem might save your sanity (and your career). 🕒 Timestamps 00:02:28 - The Burnout Recipe High-driven PMs + chaotic orgs = guaranteed burnout. It’s not your fault – it’s the cult of "ASAP" as a personality trait. 00:11:38 - Boundaries Aren’t B.S. Why "I’ll just answer this Slack at ...

May 11, 202553 minSeason 4Ep. 55

105: Melissa Perri - Why "AI" is a terrible strategist

Melissa Perri drops truth bombs about why most companies fail at AI integration, how legacy giants self-sabotage innovation, and why "slapping AI on it" is the fastest way to irrelevance. Timestamps & Key Moments 05:59 – AI: Innovation vs. Lipstick on a Pig Why QuickBooks is losing to startups like Digits. Melissa’s rule: If AI doesn’t make the problem 10x easier, you’re just checking a box. 12:36 – Corporate Innovation’s Dirty Secret Legacy companies fear self-disruption. Spin out autonomou...

May 04, 202551 minSeason 4Ep. 54

104: John Cutler - How to Turn Team Chaos into Strategy

Forget corporate utopias—John Cutler spills the real tea on why work sucks and why we are messy. On "organized anarchies," why 50% of your team is checked out, and how to turn chaos into strategy. Perfect for you if you are tired of performative frameworks. Timestamps & Key Moments 00:00 - Intro to the Chaos John’s AI-generated roast sets the tone: “Product management’s most unhinged mind” dissects why companies are glorified dumpster fires. 01:56 - Why Work Sucks The “garbage can theory” of...

Apr 27, 202553 minSeason 4Ep. 53

103: CJ Gustafson - The Silent Recession: Why Product Leaders Need CFOs Now

CJ Gustafson (ex-PWC tech CFO, finance provocateur) unpacks how tariffs and economic chaos are gutting SaaS valuations, why AI budgets are CEOs’ midlife crisis splurges, and how to recession-proof your product strategy. Timestamps & Key Moments 00:00 - Tariffs: The SaaS Killer You Didn’t See Coming $1.8T wiped from global equities overnight (worst drop since COVID). Median SaaS multiples crash below 5x forward revenue: “Your customers move atoms, even if you don’t.” 07:46 - CFO Survival Tact...

Apr 23, 202548 minSeason 4Ep. 53

102: John Zeratsky - Fake Products, Real Feedback: Sprinting to Validation

John Zeratsky, co-creator of the Sprint Method and VC partner at Character, spills the tea on why "vision-driven" startups often fail, how to validate hypotheses before burning cash, and why your pitch deck needs more grit than glitter. Cue the rapid prototyping, competitor smackdowns, and hot takes on AI hype. Timestamps 00:00 – Intro: John’s journey from Google Ads to VC (and why tall founders have an edge) 05:48 – “Vision-driven” is a red flag : Why early-stage startups should ditch grand vis...

Apr 13, 202549 minSeason 4Ep. 52

101: Srikrishnan Ganesan - “MVPs Are Dead” & Other SaaS Heresies

Why building opinionated products is the future, why skipping MVPs in established markets works, and how AI will reshape customer onboarding. When I met Srikrishnan Ganesan for the first time, he impressed me with his original framing of what it means to find (and refind) product-market fit constantly. Timestamps 02:23 – From SMB to Enterprise: Scaling Without Losing Vision Rocketlane’s year-long stealth build focused on unifying project management, docs, and customer portals. The secret? Start ...

Apr 06, 202546 minSeason 4Ep. 51

100: Matt Le May - The Product Manager’s Guide to Driving Business Impact

What’s up with the disconnect between product teams and business goals? Why vibes won't pay the bills, and how product teams can avoid the "elephant graveyard" of low-impact work. If you've ever wondered how to align your work with business outcomes - or why your CEO might be the "support worker of the board" - this one's for you. Chapters with Timestamps 00:00–04:30 The Vibes Economy: Why founders sell visions to investors but fail to communicate existential realities to their teams. The danger...

Mar 30, 202554 minSeason 4Ep. 50

99: Mackenzie Hughes & Tara Goldman: From Jira Junkies to Profit Prophets

Connecting your work to business outcomes is a phrase we hear more and more in product and growth. Here's how Mackenzie Hughes and Tara Goldman from Goldhue lay it out and why we can't sleep on this anymore. Chapters with Timestamps 00:00-05:30 Meet the "Therapist for Type A Product Leaders" and the "Ops Whisperer" Tara Goldman's journey from VP of Product to coaching PMs on speaking executive Mackenzie Hughes' transition from GTM strategy to the "dark side" of product ops 05:30-15:00 The Great ...

Mar 23, 202559 minSeason 4Ep. 49

98: Ross Pomerantz - Cold Calls, CRMs, and Comedy Gold: Corporate Bro’s Unfiltered SaaS Diaries

Ross Pomerantz (aka Corporate Bro) pulls back the curtain on turning sales cringe into viral gold. The ex-Oracle SDR turned B2B comedy king reveals how he monetizes corporate absurdity, why "scalable AI solutions" make audiences snooze, and how to survive when algorithms decide your career. Contains NSFW cold call stories, LinkedIn rage-bait truths, and why Salesforce pays him to roast CRMs. Chapters with Timestamps 00:00–04:30 From MLB dreams to Oracle’s cold call trenches: “My first prospect t...

Mar 16, 202548 minSeason 4Ep. 48

97: Adam Fishman - Killing Projects for a Living: Mozilla’s Stage-Gating Secrets

Adam Fishman, interim SVP of New Products at Mozilla, shares insights on zero-to-one product development, killing unsustainable projects, and navigating AI’s impact on B2B SaaS. He breaks down Mozilla’s stage-gating process for innovation, the challenges of balancing ambition with practicality, and why distribution often trumps product in today’s crowded market. Chapters with Timestamps 00:00–03:30 Adam’s role at Mozilla: Building beyond Firefox, managing innovation, and why “killing projects” i...

Mar 09, 20251 hr 1 minSeason 4Ep. 47

96: Lidia Oshlyansky - 3 Skills That Outlast Any Tech Shift

Lidia Oshlyansk reflects on navigating decades of tech evolution - from webmaster days to AI - and shares tactical advice for product operatives. Drawing parallels between today’s AI boom and past shifts (web/mobile revolutions), we talk about transferable skills (negotiation, systems thinking) over fleeting tools, debunks "future-proofing," and advocates curiosity-driven adaptability . Key Timestamps 01:58 - Lidia’s unconventional path: From "business architect" to CPO roles at Spotify/Google 0...

Feb 24, 202558 minSeason 4Ep. 46

95: Tal Raviv - AI for PMs: Stop Overthinking, Start Tinkering

From streamlining user research to improving cross-functional alignment, Tal Raviv shares practical tips for PMs to embrace AI without fear. The key? Start small, experiment often, and use AI as a thought partner - not a replacement. Whether it’s summarizing transcripts, building custom assistants, or leveraging tools like ChatGPT and Notion AI, the future of PM work isn’t about avoiding AI - it’s about mastering it. Key Takeaways AI Won’t Replace PMs, But It Will Change the Job: AI is a tool, n...

Feb 17, 202549 minSeason 4Ep. 45

94: Julia Chatain - Misconceptions and How to Crush Them like a Scientist

Senior Scientist Julia Chantin unpacks how cognitive biases and flawed feedback loops sabotage learning—and why SaaS leaders need to care. From debunking misconceptions (like why “proving” someone wrong often backfires) to the power of embodied learning, Julia reveals how diverse perspectives and physical interaction drive breakthroughs. Learn actionable strategies to challenge assumptions, build resilient teams, and design products that align with how humans actually learn - not just how we thi...

Feb 09, 202553 minSeason 4Ep. 44

93: Emily Kramer - The Death of Marketing Channels

The amazing Emily Kramer talks with me about B2B Marketing, the rise and fall of influencer marketing, and the challenges of navigating the 2025 social media noise. What does the future of marketing look like while everything changes so rapidly? takeaways Influencer marketing is becoming less effective. Sound Bites "The death of channels might be more accurate." "You have to figure out your strengths first." "You need to shut up about the other things." "Don't run your startup like an enterprise...

Feb 02, 202553 minSeason 4Ep. 43

92: Kris Rudeegraap - New Marketing Channels for 2025 and Product-Led Sales

Kris Rudeegraap, Co-CEO of Sendoso, talks about Sendoso’s journey from plg to sales-led back to plg and what all of this has to do with personal branding in B2B marketing. Why is Sendoso betting on physical advertising channels like gifts and direct mail as a provider, and what does he see the future of getting attention from the market looking like with AI changing everything? Takeaways Companies are exploring underutilized marketing channels for 2025. Direct mail and gifting are emerging as ef...

Jan 26, 202549 minSeason 4Ep. 42

91: Dave Kellogg - Organizational design: Signs of Health vs. Conflict

“The only time where I saw all the VPs align is when they all hated the CEO” Why do we keep getting organizations wrong? How should you think about your team, the team of teams, and the organization you’re in? Our five principles of organizational design and how to navigate growth and scaling challenges, particularly in startups. takeaways Growth should be a collective responsibility across all departments. High internal conflict is a sign of poor organizational health. C-level executives must a...

Jan 20, 20251 hr 1 minSeason 4Ep. 41

90: Harini Gokul - How to keep things "simple" at scale

The evolution of sales models, the critical role of customer success in driving revenue, and the responsibilities of C-level executives in fostering cross-functional collaboration with Harini Gokul, CCO @ Entrust, from a first principle perspective. The challenges of implementing product-led sales strategies and the importance of simplifying metrics for effective decision-making. Why traditional customer metrics don’t work that well anymore and why it’s all about two things in business, no matte...

Jan 12, 202558 minSeason 4Ep. 40

89: David Yockelson - Revolutionizing Sales with Interactive Demos

We explore the rising significance of interactive demos in B2B SaaS. How these demos serve as a bridge between potential buyers and products, improving all relevant pipeline numbers. The evolution of demo technology, the role of Gen.AI in enhancing demo creation, and the shifting dynamics of the sales process towards a more self-service model. How does the future of marketing in a product-led world look like for Sales? Takeaways Gen.AI will revolutionize demo creation and usage. The market for i...

Jan 08, 202552 minSeason 4Ep. 39

88: Teresa Torres - Under the hood of Solopreneurship

Teresa Torres offers a rare sneak peek behind the curtain of how she runs her business. How can you maximize your chances when you’re reaching out to people like us who have limited attention to go around? What is our pricing strategy for what we do, and how did we come up with it? How does Teresa’s demand generation differ from Marty Cagan's or mine? takeaways Coaching should be a mutual investment of time and resources. Not all requests for help are equal; specificity matters. Sound Bites "I c...

Dec 15, 202439 minSeason 4Ep. 38

87: Francesca Cortesi - From Market fit to IPO

Why is it so difficult for most companies to shift gears after reaching product market fit? Why can’t we just keep doing what made us successful? Francesca Cortesi shares with me insights on the difficult journey from finding product market fit to getting to an IPO. We particularly explore the details of Hemnet, a Swedish B2B2C SaaS marketplace and how they dealt with this challenge. takeaways Defending existing revenue becomes a priority as companies scale. Diluting your value proposition can o...

Dec 08, 202447 minSeason 4Ep. 37

86: Joan Palmiter Bajorek: Layoff Anxiety in Tech and Career Optionality

The pervasive issue of layoff anxiety in the tech industry, particularly in the wake of COVID-19, overvaluation and the rise of AI. Dr. Joan Palmiter explores with me the importance of networking and personal branding as essential tools for job security and career advancement. Are multiple income streams and optionality realistic to mitigate the fear of job loss? How does personal career development overlap with product management? The significance of networking and communication skills and the ...

Dec 01, 202451 minSeason 4Ep. 36

85: Wes Kao - Strategies for communicating with leaders

The nuances of executive communication and the importance of building buy-in for ideas with Wes Kao. The role of credibility, understanding bandwidth in conversations, and strategies for framing discussions to enhance clarity and reduce cognitive load. De-risking strategies to avoid surprises and the significance of celebrating good decision-making processes rather than just successful outcomes. Takeaways Working autonomously means communicating more, not less. Surprises in the workplace are gen...

Nov 24, 20241 hr 1 minSeason 4Ep. 35

84: Kristi Faltorusso - Aligning Customer Success and Product Management

Kristi Faltorusso, a CS executive and coach, joins me in this high-energy conversation about customer success-assisted onboarding, alignment, and the dreaded realities of cross-functional working with product & sales. We explore effective onboarding strategies, the importance of aligning customer success with product development, and the necessity of quantifying challenges faced by customer success teams. What’s the importance of defining effective KPIs for customer success, focusing on lead...

Nov 17, 202447 minSeason 4Ep. 34

83: Tadas Labudis - Overcoming the fear of founder-led selling

Founder-led sales done well has a lot of power especially in product-led companies. Tadas Labudis shares his experiences with founder-led sales and how it helped him build confidence in the product and himself. How to embrace your vulnerabilities and the importance of leaving a positive impression in sales interactions while getting insights you would never get just by looking at data. How to balance product-led growth with effective sales strategies before its too late. takeaways Sales can be e...

Nov 10, 202455 minSeason 4Ep. 33

82: Maranda Dziekonski - When selling never ends - CS in 2024 and beyond

Maranda Dziekonski on the evolving landscape of customer success, the importance of driving value for customers, and owning revenue outcomes for a function that traditionally never has. Like product. Why the traditional role is shifting to a more integrated approach and how this works when “the sale never ends” We discuss the complexities of customer success, the impact of budget constraints on customer retention, and the importance of understanding customer churn. What it means to build around ...

Nov 03, 202457 minSeason 4Ep. 32

81: Kyle Poyar - Rethinking pipeline responsibility and MQLs

What is driving a company's value in 2024? How do we identify and copy trends that work until they don’t anymore? Why is product-led growth no longer a differentiator but becoming a table stake fast? Why is everyone suddenly providing a pipeline from product, marketing, sales, and customer success while the only way that most companies measure pipeline is through Marketing and their MQLs (Marketing Qualified Leads)? Why does this old model not work anymore? takeaways Demand comes from various so...

Oct 27, 202454 minSeason 4Ep. 31
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