Welcome to the second half of our interview with Awei from Afrika. We're going around the world in less than 80 minutes talking all things international football. Enjoy.
Africaaans FC:Looking across the pond, can we take a moment and say, Nigeria, will you ever fly? Will you, ever do anything? it's frustrating for me. as an African, it's frustrating to see a team with that much talent. Like I've said this for years, Nigeria has more Stryker. Talent than some countries have quality players yet. Technically they haven't lost they just haven't won the games they needed and now they're at risk of missing another World Cup. But hey, at least I get to play in af on. That'll be fun. And so just seeing the games, I watched a lot of games, this window because this was the window I figured would be where teams would either separate, our groups would get much tighter. in many ways you saw the Moroccos, Egypts Ghana. For the instance, we were able to give us a little bit more breathing room. But you saw the likes of Nigeria who needed six points. You only get four and now they're at risk of not being able to play out of their group. So I think. Looking at calf World Cup qualifiers was fun. Just seeing the drama, stress of teams trying to perform My best friend is Gambian, and my next best friend is Kenyan. that three, three game where Gambia decided defending was for no one, and Kenya decided we'll score today. The group chat was alive that day, but Gabi is another one of those teams where they just can't put the full performance down and they have talent. They're a young, emerging side, but lack the maturity to see out games. There's no reason that game should have been at three, three, let alone three, two, that game should have been five one by the time Kenya scored their second goal, but they weren't able to put away their opportunities. And when you're in high pressure situations, you can only learn it's seeing teams react to this. Anytime something goes wrong against my team, I'll always post or tweet out. I still say Twitter, I don't care. adversity is free, so let's see how you react to it. And we saw Ghana React adversity. We saw Gambia React adversity poorly and we saw Nigeria kind of react, but then not really do what they could have done. So watching how those teams react and then vice versa. Looking at, say, going back to CONCACAF Canada in the us, how are they gonna react to the adversity that they face now, the pressure that they have, both were expected to play for a trophy, neither did what do they do with that? Becomes much more fascinating. We have the rest of World Cup. club soccer then June the tournaments World Cup qualifiers and Europe kickoff seeing how teams react to adversity is the thing for me, because that's something that, you don't always see, so you can only evaluate what as fans. We only get to see the games. You don't get to see training and we don't get to see what's going on with them personally players wise. So you only see the games and you can only evaluate the games. all you can do is watch and make assumptions based off of that and then try to build the best, script of what is actually happening and then make judgements and make it, and make moves off of that. But seeing teams reacting to the pressure of World Cup qualifiers is always fascinating because you see the passion in the players, you see the passion in the fans, but you also see the pain and that comes with the losses and the missed opportunities. And all you got to do is watch it and it's free. see how you react to it.
PSP:That's right, and there'll be much to react in the next nine to 12 months. There's gonna be a few inter confederation playoffs, which you never Be part of those. I've seen my fair show. Those Nope. You wanna observe and not be participant in.
Africaaans FC:No, true.
PSP:just on Nigeria. I have to throw this in there. 2006 I was with you. Yes. Nigeria were a defacto of mine. Most of my other countries were not going to the Men's World Cup. So Nigeria were a team. I would get behind. But after Ghana started to, get into the main draw of the World Cup, I was cool with Nigeria. I was neither here nor there with Nigeria. it's tough because the Super Eagles, underperform and frankly, the country has inferior joll of rights. Am I right?
Africaaans FC:I agree. They are not top three in West African gel of rice. They are not top three. I will go that far and say it because, Sierra Leone fried rice is much better. I know too many Nigerians and that's their argument every time. If I wanted to eat sandpaper, I would eat sandpaper, but I'm not gonna do that. So I believe in flavor and good food. I'll send all my ING fans to this podcast, This is how I feel about your food. Come at me. I agree, the frustrating thing with Nigeria is like you see the talent, right? And it's just, you don't ever see them put it all together. And it's frustrating because again, as an African, you want your best teams, your biggest stars. Nigeria has arguably the biggest stars. the last two African players of the year and to quote Ghana fans after they lost to Uruguay, but Uwe was out of the World Cup because of other results, we'll all be going home together. at some point I'd like to see the best my continent can offer at the World Cup but we will have just better stories, which is unfortunate because Nigeria is a side that I feel that they match up well with teams that aren't in the region. It's, you're in Canada right do you follow any other sports other than football?
PSP:Yeah.
Africaaans FC:What do you follow
PSP:baseball. Basketball, American football.
Africaaans FC:there?
PSP:football. Yeah, for sure.
Africaaans FC:Yeah, I'll use an American or like Canadian collegiate term, right? I think they, Nigerian and some African sides match up well against the best teams in the planet. And for a lot of people, a lot of Africans, it's the Europeans. We match up well with the Europeans. 'cause apparently Africa and Europe are just two different levels. That's a whole nother conversation, Jamie Kerger. But I find that African teams match up better with African teams. And some of those matchups where they can't get through right in Conka calf Conka calfing is a thing, right? A team knows how to game the system, Get a call from the ref, grow the grass an extra inch to slow down the pace or speed it up. But if you play teams like Dr. Congo sometimes you struggle with African sides. But I think they would do well against a lot of European sides based off not only their style of play, but the players that they have. And Nigeria's the same way, but they have to get past Rwanda And Rwanda says, no, we have endured enough and we will not endure your rice either. So you'll get a win, but nothing else. Some teams just match up better against other sides. you don't get to see those teams play when the stakes. Are high against teams who can match their quality because they can't get away through the team that just knows how to get under their skin and be able to get the results that way. And it's unfortunate for Nigeria, but as a Ghanaian, I enjoy it so much.
PSP:Yeah, it's like a nice warm bowl of jollof, Ghanaian that's not mistaking for Jollof people talk about.
Africaaans FC:Yep.
PSP:yeah, it's hearty. there is an element of UR because the last few ACON tournaments, Ghana have gone home early or haven't turned up at all. Nigeria have deep and it has not been a nice time,
Africaaans FC:No. I supported everyone. the Ivorians. Hey, I'm bilingual. I can support you in French. I'm here, I am here. Let's go elephants. Dj, you played at Chelsea. Every African Chelsea. Let's take this home for us. But they just don't match up well for whatever reason. And that's just the nature of it. Do you find that when you're looking at African sides, they don't match up well against their peers. There are teams that, for whatever reason, always get results. But then you see them play a Switzerland. You see them play like a Sweden. You see them play even I'm throwing Poland into this conversation because it's a name, but. You see them and you like, yeah, we're a better team and we'll perform better, but get them to Africa send 'em to Madagascar and it's a struggle. we can't beat Madagascars because on that day. They've got the results. Do you find that the same as Africa or is it just
PSP:Yeah.
Africaaans FC:underperforming
PSP:Yeah. I see that, especially in Africa. There are times we see it in the Asian Federation as well with certain teams,
Africaaans FC:Yes.
PSP:yes. the idea of playing down to your opposition, I'll use an NFL analogy. A team like the Kansas City Chiefs, during the regular season
Africaaans FC:Yes.
PSP:they'll often win by one score against a team. They should be, throwing two or three touchdowns against, but they're, They know they're good. They do just enough. But in tennis, some of these teams in calf, they, they're not doing just enough against some of the teens. They should be beating. They're drawing, they're losing in some cases, but when they make it to the. A tournament to use, like the carism
Africaaans FC:yeah,
PSP:up against teams they're not expected to perform well against. it does make you wonder. Morocco on the other hand they shopped everyone last World Cup. They went to the semi finals. They matched Croatia, they took it to France. It'd be interesting to see if another team from CAF can get the semi finals time around.
Africaaans FC:Morocco is a fascinating case study before the tournament, they chose their players over their coach. Which is the more interesting thing. And that to me is like a do you actually, and look at them now, Morocco has become the model child in African football where it's look at them recruiting all their players. Look at them hosting all the tournaments. They are now the child who came home with all A's in school and mom and dad love 'em. And everyone else was just like, I don't like you, but you're winning so fine. But they chose their players and at the result, and they were a team that decided just to be pragmatic with how they played. They weren't trying to be pretty, they just said, we're gonna play this way 'cause it's gonna get us that result. But they do have the fluidity if they need to play possession they can If they need to play transition game, they can do they have the depth, they are recruiting, they're always adding to their depth. They're not afraid of necessarily, oh, we have too many, no, get as many players as you can. Have them play well, compete. And bring your best 23 to 26 and then get a system that is easy enough to translate to the pitch and get results. I do think an African team can have a deep run, just 'cause it's gonna be longer, how the format is for this World Cup. I don't know if I'm gonna bank on Morocco repeating it, but they would be on the list for me from African teams based off how they look as a team that could easily have another deep run for the World Cup next year. They're going to make it. Let's not pretend like they won't, D Congo is another group I think Senegal is one of those teams that on paper they have the names, but they feel like the team that is holding on to a generation of one cycle too many. And so I feel like if they can make it through, it'll be one last run for them. But I don't know if they can necessarily, they're the names, but It be like they feel they really do. They feel like a Saudi Arabian team where you see all the names like, oh man, those were big names four years ago. okay. I guess that's why they're all playing in Saudi Arabia or some of them are. Cameroon not making the World Cup is disappointing, but I've been a Cape Verde Dark Horse team for the last five years, so I'm finally happy seeing a return on my investment with them. if you have to pick a team based off form right now, it would be Morocco and then probably TiVo. Those two teams, could walk into any competition and get a deep run for Africa. Do you think an African team or a CONCACAF team will make it further at the next World Cup?
PSP:Okay, so that's a good point you've raised Mexico seemed to have. I it around with a Gade and the new generation that he's bringing through Canada Depth is gonna be an issue as we've talked about, Jesse Ma is doing his best, but injuries happen. You have to navigate around injuries in an expanded format. Although objective to the World Cup is get out the group, get a win, get points, and get out the group. Anything beyond that is gravy. The US is a team that has a fan base that believes they can win the World Cup and manages who's been told to go and win the World Cup. I'm not convinced they necessarily had the players to win, said World Cup. Now, coming back to your question, I gotta say an African team. If it's not Mexico, it's probably gonna be an African team. You just got guys. calf squads who are getting regular playing time. don't see The US Canada, it's that depth issue. and Mexico, they're the kings of round 16. So why would they
Africaaans FC:Yes.
PSP:different to that? Canada and African team get to the quarterfinals? Yes.
Africaaans FC:Yes.
PSP:we've narrowed it down
Africaaans FC:that is interest. I tend to agree with you we've talked about depth, and I think I'll ask you a cand question in that sense. 'cause apparently this is now my interview. This is great. I love it. every podcast is a conversation. It's back and forth and you go, what do you think this Canada side is missing for you to take them, for lack of better words, more seriously? they have names and we've talked about depth, specifically. What is the thing that you think that they are missing to take that next step To be taken seriously for the world's perspective. What do they need to push forward
PSP:Let me touch on the women's team quickly because I was thinking about this the other day when Casey Stoney was doing her media availability, her head of the series against Argentina, and
Africaaans FC:Yes.
PSP:with them is they have issues in the final third. They're very good at playing wide and getting into the box, but it's getting the ball into the back of the net. That's a problem for them. On the men's team, I think they solved the goal keeping issue they had at the World Cup in 2022. they have two or three guys who can fill that spot, defensively. I in assuming Alfonso Davies is gonna be back for the World Cup?
Africaaans FC:Yeah.
PSP:They should be fine fallback. Centerback is a concern, but in the international game not easy to find a centerback with a Canadian passport. So I would say yeah, just center back and the set piece, defending the set piece, if they can either bring in a set piece closer, if they have someone in there already improving the set piece tactics, I think that will go a long way to addressing issues at the World Cup. What do you say?
Africaaans FC:That's interesting because most Canadians would say their back line is set. I think most Canadians will see what the emergence of Moise bonito with Derrick Cornelius, both of them playing in France and the top League, league earn. They feel they're at a good enough level and bonito has just skyrocketed, literally 'cause he's just that quick of a player. But also his rise has been very much unforeseen by a lot of folks. So most Canadians will say their back line is fine midfield. Between stack and Kne, they feel you have a solid enough set there. I think if you look at the nines, there's a reason they brought in Daniel Jemison and David they're trying to find another nine who can play with Jonathan David. getting more opportunities will help. on the right side, to me, look like all Ahmed is a good story. Jacob Schaffel are good stories. I think though if you look at that, the outside midfielder are the winger position. That is, to me, the difference between this team, especially under Jesse Marsh who wants to play quick. He wants to play fast. He wants to press, and he wants players who are, who have the IQ to really. Impact the game you saw that with Tejon starting against the US picking his spots And they missed that with no Jacob Schaffel. I still think Jacob Schaffel Berg is best used as a substitute. Either the first 45 aren't going well, you put him on to just go gas. Just press and go. Ali Ahmed, is a good steady player who can give great moments as he did against the us. But I think he's less interchangeable with Tejon. I feel that Tejon is better starting than coming off the bench, which leaves the left midfield I said earlier I think Jesse Marsh has about 90% of this team penciled in. the left midfield position is the most curious spot. can we still try to recruit a player like Luca COO show who's at Barley and doing things? If you get a player like Kim at the championship level, I think that's a good enough player that you can put in front of Alfonso Davies when healthy. That makes Alfonso Davies. I think the bigger threat, because him on the ball is great, but I think you put more pressure and more stress on a defense when he's off the ball because he could be three steps behind you, but the second he takes off, he's al, he's winning that ball and making the defense have to backup and respect that speed and that pace. I think would do wonders for this team, especially in possession, having to back them off. I think that left midfielder, left winger position. is the biggest thing to address from a starting 11 standpoint. When you're talking the whole 23. Yeah, like full back depth. I know Richie is there, I know Sam Kuby is there. I am notorious in my family for not celebrating things, so I don't expect things to be there the next year. though many are expecting that, looking at the track record and unfortunately the players just haven't been healthy. they need to find some depth at the fullback position. Is that Nico Seeger? I hope so. I prefer I'm in a midfield, but I don't make those choices. Can they find another fullback both left and right that can come in and supplant and give some minutes that's the big question and maybe they have to look for younger players, coming through the youth ranks. Or make waiting for players who are still emerging. That's where people mention Joquila Marshall Rudy, who was at TFC, now at, CF Montreal, a player like him to emerge would do well, but to me, I think the biggest question mark for that team is that left midfield position that left striker, that left a winger position. If they fix that, offensively they look dangerous and fast, they are the transition team, the pressing team, Jesse Marsh wants
PSP:that's some great points you've raised and that, would be a game changer if they get the right person in into that On the left side. about someone from to see who's been around the national setup?
Africaaans FC:Theo can still offer something for the national team. he is a winger, stuck in a striker's body, he either has to be a camp for this team or find space out wide. And at TFC, unless you're Italian, you're not playing out wide. unfortunately Theo is Romanian Canadian, so he's not gonna get those spots. But I think he's a player that I haven't given up on yet. I think when he broke into the national team, he certainly showed his quality, he showed his promise that was there, but he just, it's been interesting watching his journey through clubs and then watching Liam Miller, who finally got a good spot at Preston North End. Where it felt like Liam was making the right moves, every five, six months Theo was getting pulled from the club and then sent to another And you don't wanna label a player but after a while, if the kettle is black, it's black. All I know is the player has gone to many spots and just hasn't been able to break through consistently. And, but the talent is still there. So maybe this is a player who hasn't put it all together, or this is just a talent set that coaches look and say, maybe we can, we are the people, the hubris of coaching, the hubris of a team saying We are the ones who can unlock this properly. And maybe someone is eventually able to do it. He's still early in the season with TFC, but he's a player who still has the potential and is still young enough. But I think with this team. It's gonna get late very early. And so he needs to start to put up performances, right? We're all talking, Canadians are talking about Jayden Nelson because how he started the year and I think Jayden Nelson is a solid shout for the Gold Cup to get some opportunities. And he's another player who on the left side could provide something that could be helpful and useful for the team. But he put in the results and he's put up numbers and he's a good, Theo started off starting and now is still fighting for his spot, we'll see what that looks like. But I think for him, if he can start to put together some good performances, it won't go unnoticed because he's a player who does have that pedigree of being part of this team. And I think he can offer something to this team still.
PSP:No doubt now. There is a tournament coming up before we got couple 14 tournaments. Gonna feature Canada, New Zealand, Ukraine, and TiVo I, and see how Jesse Marsh experiments. It'll be in Toronto. You'll be there.
Africaaans FC:I'm planning on going there. I've told the group chat an African team is coming to Canada and they're like, we ride at dawn. I hope you have $300. But yeah, I think it'll be a good matchup. I was talking with, one of my YouTube compatriots about they approach those two games, they play Ukraine on the seventh. TiVo on the 10th, and the Gold Cup starts on the 14th. And I'm of the opinion that they might split the squad and have maybe. As many players as they can for those friendlies. And then send players back to their clubs for the club World Cup. Maybe you send them back if they're able Or you try to see as many players as you can then take a pool from those players going forward. you'd have to set your squad for the Gold Cup. I'm curious to see how Jesse Marsh wants to run this, because I don't think you're gonna play a team of that quality anywhere in the Gold Cup, not named Mexico. if you want to prepare players unfamiliar with that level, those two teams are perfect. if you want to test players getting ready for the World Cup, that's a different conversation How do you think Marsh should approach this?
PSP:you mentioned it best earlier in the interview about national teams not having a lot of time to prepare with these guys when they come from their thinking about the group. you're probably gonna get a Uafa team might get A team from CAF or Asia. I would definitely be. the Ukraine game like it's a dress rehearsal for the World Cup.
Africaaans FC:Yep.
PSP:not saying you go out with a second string lineup against Corvo, but this is African champions. Give them their flowers. Maybe have a bit more of a scenario analysis in that game. Maybe that's the game where you say that could be our third game in the group. We need X number of points. do a scenario analysis
Africaaans FC:Yeah. That's true. I think when you're playing different teams, conquer calf doesn't looked like any type of world beaters in world football. They are looked at as one of the I mean are we the worst confederation in the world? Not named Oceania. Is Oceania even considered a federation?
PSP:It's there.
Africaaans FC:I.
PSP:slot now.
Africaaans FC:New Zealand doesn't have to fight. New Zealanders are happy They don't have to go to intercontinental playoff every year. They were happy when Australia left and now they're happy this is here. there was a bit of European hubris, when it comes to some North American sides that was the whole conversation when Canada played Belgium. we didn't expect them to play so directly and forwardly and it caught us off guard. Canada, in CONCACAF can't hide. everyone knows what they are. Everyone knows what they want to do, so they're going to not let them do it. They want to run, they'll sit back and that's how it is. But I feel like with European sides, maybe they just won't take them seriously. And then you'll have another situation where it's yeah, I know Canada had a good matchup, but. We are Ukraine or we are Poland, or we are insert European country and we can handle them. So I think you have a better chance of there. When it comes to African sides, I feel like African sides will just, unless they're playing Europeans, they think they can play with anyone. that might be a game for Canada where it's similar to the game against the US at the Nations league, where I think they just match up better stylistically better with co tival because co tival will play a up. They wanna play up and down game fine. They'll do that. They have the legs for it, they're not afraid to, and if Canada wants to play that game too, I think that suits them better. So you might get to see what that game looks like if a team lets you play. You won't have as much respect, say, made with some European sides because there is that European hubris that comes with all the best players are in Europe, so we are the best that comes with it.
PSP:Yeah. There's gotta be a shift I think the world is catching up to Europe. those days are over. The elitism is on the wane. we've gotta start taking the other confederations more seriously than the Europeans used to.
Africaaans FC:true. But from the European perspective, haven't, the other confederations made semifinals at the World Cup? Will it take an Asian country, a CONCACAF country, an African country, winning the World Cup for the sport to be respected? for them not to have that European hubris world where we're just playing this lowly country from insert federation. Will it take one of them winning it for respect? Or do we just need to keep stacking good performances?
PSP:Okay. I'll meet you halfway there. 'cause I think that has been disrespect and this is something that, that's annoyed me. As much as I don't like the 40 18 format, do think it is, good that Africa now gets nine spots for 54 or 55 countries. 'cause I got five is ridiculous. And thought that's what I'm talking about when I'm talking about, disrespect
Africaaans FC:Yeah.
PSP:my beef is with FIFA you can't tell me South America deserves five spots when they have 10 teams qualifying. But it is what it is. with this current format, it is a bit more spread out, which I appreciate. Although we'll see what happens when we get to the tournament. Now to ask you a question about how do we, yes. I think with more upsets, or more teams from non UA confederations putting out Europeans, I think there'll be more respect coming down the line. Will we see a team from Conf Asia or. Calf winning the World Cup would be nice. this is probably gonna be one of the most spread out world Cups in history. There's gonna be a lot of travel. I dunno if the Europeans are up for that. They did seem to battle in Qatar with the weather and the early kickoffs. So it's might the opportunity.
Africaaans FC:Yeah. I think yes, you'll look and say there's more top European teams, but I think give them the opportunity. every man falls at some point and giants aren't that tall when everyone else is average height. get them on the pitch, let them play and see what happens. 'cause I, again, when African sides, I think African sides match up well stylistically, physically with that. I think the thing that is more curious is we haven't had an African side dictate the pace metronome of a game in a while. most African sides, when they come to these competitions, counter, But we haven't seen that in a while. If you see that emergence Morocco can dictate a game. Morocco will play whatever game they want to play that day, and it'll just come down to what results they get. If you get more of them, I think that will start to also continue that shift because it's not like we lack talent. It's not, at least from the African standpoint, we do not lack the talent. We just lack sometimes the mentality to do it. But then also the tech, the coaches willing to push us that's my most frustrating thing with some European coaches coming to Africa, We're gonna get, all the fans will say, where's the swashbuckling footballs? They'll say where's the up and down? Where's the style? Where's everything? And those coaches will say if. We score. If we prevent them from scoring, we can just get one and we'll be fine. And then you have a whole generation built off a low block or a midblock, but when they go to their clubs, they are scoring and dancing over everything. So get me the coaches who will let them play football, how they know it, but get them in a mentality where they don't fear anyone. in 2026, you could see. three African teams in the quarterfinals. You could. Because I think they have the talent when it comes to concacaf, it's gonna be adrenaline, CONCACAF will be straight adrenaline, because Mexico has the pressure. Canada will be them. And then the US, as long as they play in America, apparently they'll be fine. Unless they play, Mexico. And that's the weird thing with conka calf teams. They match up specifically with teams in Conka calf. But then outside of that, it's a struggle. we'll have to wait. And then Asia is a, I don't know who, I don't know what to trust coming out of Asia because, guitar somehow won the Asia Cup. They somehow won that. I have thoughts, but they somehow won it. did the thing.
PSP:as someone born and raised in Australia, I have many thoughts and they're not positive. So let's do this, let's get some therapy going here. 'cause I wasn't pleased when Qatar won the bit, 'cause they were up against the US and Australia for 2022. they have a unique program for, nurturing or bringing in talent. It helped them win their first cup,
Africaaans FC:Yeah.
PSP:Prior to 2022. we saw the real Qatar at the 2022 World Cup. They did get found out internationally
Africaaans FC:agree.
PSP:on the world stage they managed to regress positively and win the Asian Cup again. we're seeing the real Qatar, once again in qualified they are projected to squeeze into the playoffs if they're lucky, but on the outside looking in, is what you get for a small nation tried to grow quickly, but unfortunately there's still gaps that it's gonna take time for them to catch up to the likes of Iran and Saudi Arabia that are vigor in terms of population. It's gonna take time for them to build that talent. the way they've gone about it, can talk about the ethics of that,
Africaaans FC:What ethics, Sir, I am not telling you where I live. This will be worldwide. we're gonna leave that comment there. everything was ethically done. We all know this. There is nothing fishy about this whatsoever.
PSP:I'll say this, if they do have the next World Cup off, I won't be bothered. I'll leave with that.
Africaaans FC:we're talking about FIFA who gave every other federation a game in the next World Cup, so 2034 is Saudi Arabia. Ethics. Ethics, of course, yes. ethics
PSP:Australia mysteriously dropped out of the race for that. I guess someone in the A FC said, yeah, we're not endorsing you.
Africaaans FC:Yeah. that's a sad thing. I think Australia did a good job with the Women's World Cup, it's disappointing we don't see Australia even if it's an Australian New Zealand bid. they have the infrastructure. the temperature would be the issue. their winter or fall But they did it well and deserved a shot, I'm frustrated with just giving, like if the bid was just for the 2030 World Cup, it was just Spain, Portugal, and Morocco. That makes sense because Morocco, on an African standpoint, have been stepping up and they have been putting the infrastructure dollars in and they've done a good job of hosting. They're hosting AF Con, they hosted WAF Con, they're hosting WAF Con again. Again, they've shown that they can host these events, but, give it to the country Ronaldo's playing for looks left, looks right, reasons. Yes.
PSP:It's not an accident Ronald ended up in Saudi Arabia. Very strategic. Maybe he is been watching on that since he's a kid.
Africaaans FC:Yeah, that's, very believable. I won't let so believe. Yeah. That man was always just, yeah, after Holland Madrid yeah, Saudi Arabia. It seemed like the next best choice for my life. good for you,
PSP:No, it's a great chat. we've covered a lot. pretty much gone around the world In 80 minutes.
Africaaans FC:Yep.
PSP:hope you don't have jet lag. Definitely get
Africaaans FC:feeling good.
PSP:and something to eat, on arrival home. And I'm sure we'll do this again.
Africaaans FC:We will.
PSP:I look forward to that Where can they find your work on social media?
Africaaans FC:All right, so I am on Blue Sky, at Africans FC Africans with three A's On Twitter, It's Africans FC three A's you can find me on all podcasting platforms. Africans, three a's fc. And on YouTube, where I'm going to be, I did a little bit of stuff on the, Canadian as national team. I cover Canadian and African football. you can find me on YouTube for video content if you like. The smooth sounds of me at 5:00 AM in the morning talking to you as if it's jazz at noon. I do a lot of that, but outside of that, those are all the places you can find me. Most podcasting platforms, the same name there. But, you'll see that, I think we'll put the name in the description and you can find, actually I'll give you my, my tiny URL and it has all my, links there so you can find me there.
PSP:Fantastic. We'll include that in the show notes and you'll be able to follow on, 'cause there's a lot of football still to come.
Africaaans FC:Indeed.
PSP:I've been your host Neil Wallace, Bruce, and this has been an episode PSPI.