HEMA Sweats w/ Beau Glitschka (Privychat 40)

>> Hunter Hoover: If they, if they try to map me, it's gonna be the most boring map ever drawn. It's like, does he do anything but go to these four buildings ever? Like. Welcome back to Privy. Privy is a podcast about bathrooms recorded this week'm I'm, I'm off location. If the, if the shrubbery, it's real. See it's 3D. Um, if you didn't notice and I right here, uh, I am off location. I'm m doing a remote record. Uh, but due to circumstances in my life, it worked better for me to record

remotely this week. So, um, I'm going to be joined by a, a, ah, longtime friend and first time guest, Bo Glitchka. So let's see if we can get Bo in here. Well, hello everyone. I'm joined this week by uh, Bo Glitchka. Bo, how are you? >> Bo Glitchka: I'm great. Today I'm a little, little fried. I've been working about 10, 10 hour days for tax season lately, so fun. >> Hunter Hoover: Uh, times. >> Bo Glitchka: Greatly appreciated your reminder yesterday about our uh, episode.

So. >> Hunter Hoover: Well, and I'm guilty because, uh, I only texted you because my wife said, aren't you recording with someone tomorrow night? I went, oh, I better text him because if I forgot there's no telling because like, yeah, people, it, yeah, uh, what would we do without, without the wives? >> Bo Glitchka: Like, it's funny because speaking of wives, my I remembered yesterday I got home and Jess, um, is up in Portland tonight. I'm like, oh, I'm going to be on

Hunter's podcast tomorrow. She's like, what? You're on his podcast? And I'm like, two things. One, didn't I put it in the calendar? She's like, no. And then two, how do you know he has a podcast? And she's like, I follow him on like Instagram or Facebook or something out there. So she was like super excited about that. She's like, how did you not tell me you're on this podcast? >> Hunter Hoover: Oh, that's awesome, dude. Well, uh, yeah, she's great because the

uh, I'll be honest, the female. It turns out the female demographic for people that like talking and listening to bathrooms is not as big as you think. >> Bo Glitchka: Um, so this is true. >> Hunter Hoover: Yeah, there's a handful. Um, my wife's even like, yeah, I'll be on. I don't know, it's, it's weird. You do your thing and I'm like, al right, cool. We'I'be Friday night for a while. That'd be great.

Um, but yeah, Bo, we, you know, Something I always try to do is we know each other from Corbin, um, the Corbin days. It kind of lives in my brain as this chunk of time that for me it felt like it continued to get longer and longer. But what was your like, you know, were you were in Ferrar? Uh, do you want to explain Ferrar or were you were in Ferar? Right.

>> Bo Glitchka: So that's a really funny question because, um, the perception that I was in Ferar a is a correct perception, but I was actually a commuter who spent a lot of time in Ferr. >> Hunter Hoover: Okay. Okay. I feel that because my last few years there I was the same way, but I spent. I fet, like all my time up in Balio, so. Yeah, I get that. >> Bo Glitchka: Yeah. The pipeline from commuter to like Ferrara B. It was so like my very first day on. On campus.

Um, I. Okay. Okay. So I. So I became friends with, ah, with a fellow named Kyle Wagner very early. Like before my time at Corbin. We were in the same core group, so we met on Facebook and no one else in the core group had any interest in. And chatting and him. But him and I were. Were like huge, big time Star wars nerds. And we just like chatted throughout the entire summer. Met up. I got connected to his hall, which, uh. Who the R.A. was Connor Lock.

And uh, one of the other guys in the hall was Bradley Troll, whose episode I listened to in preparation for this episode, actually invited, um, me to joined, uh, with their whole activities over the course of orientation, uh, week. And so I spent a lot of time hanging out with, uh. And that was the basement. Right. Which got scattered to the wind after that first year, which, you know, m. Long story short, a lot of my friends ended up in

Ferrar. So I spent a lot of time, uh, occasionally, more than occasionally, sleeping over in Brad's room, uh, when he was over there. Uh, know, I knew a lot of the RAs. A lot of the. A lot of my close friends. I still speak to braw Ferrarins at the time. Yeah. >> Hunter Hoover: Uh, that's awesome. >> Bo Glitchka: It was a good time. >> Hunter Hoover: That's cool. That like. I don't know. I guess you are probably.

You're probably. I don't want to say, like, I don't know how many freshmen were able to swing that commuter gig. >> Bo Glitchka: Not many. >> Hunter Hoover: Yeah. >> Bo Glitchka: Um, so because like a lot you have like commuters who I think started as students like yourself. And like, if you were out of state, I think that you had to be on campus. Right. You could only be a commuter if you were like, living like. I only lived 10 minutes from

campus. Um, that's. It was funny because I would talk to other students who I think a lot of commuters who. 18 and going to court, like, they're still somewhat under, like, mom and dad's yoke in a lot of ways. I've talked to you like, how do you, like, how do your parents, like, like, let you. Like, I spen all this time at school, I'm like, I'm an adult first. >> Hunter Hoover: I want. >> Bo Glitchka: Yeah, it was. It was. It was great because, like, you know,

I think, like, like, we're 18. We want to, like, be at school, you know, with, like, our peers, away from. Away from home. And so, like it, like, I really enjoyed, um, like, going somewhere, spending a lot of time there. >> Hunter Hoover: Y. >> Bo Glitchka: Like, like living life with, like, with a peer group. >> Hunter Hoover: Yeah. >> Bo Glitchka: Uh, and so, like, you know, it was.

It was only 10 minutes away from home, so it was like. And I. For most of my time, until I was a senior and had an internship, like, I also worked at Corbin, so, you know. Yeah, it was a perfect little ecosystem. >> Hunter Hoover: Were you in the library? >> Bo Glitchka: Yes, I. I did. I had a stinton. Served my time in Eamark, and then I did, uh, two years in the library, which to this day is probably the best job I've ever worked in my life.

>> Hunter Hoover: Really? Like, do you even prefer it over your current. >> Bo Glitchka: I mean, like, I. I mean, like. >> Hunter Hoover: He loves where he works employer. >> Bo Glitchka: Like, so, like, love where. So I'm a state home accountant, which I love what I do. I like. I like doing taxes, uh, and whatnot. It's just like, I look back

at that Corbin time. Oh, you know, I went to Corbin. I did, like, worked my 10 or 15 hours a week in the library, and I got likeeah back. I'll know is not back. Then I could do my homework, like, while I worked. And I felt like I also, like, got my job. My boss, Sarah Davis, liked me and soh. Yeah, I was able to do a good job and get homework. You know, it was, like, perfect for college students, especially after, like, I'd never done

food service before. So, like, a whole year in Eamark was, like, enough to make one motivated to do anything else. >> Hunter Hoover: Yes. Yeah, I'm convinced. I tell the high school kids I work with because they complain and they get entitled to all sorts of things that aren't theirs. Um, and I just tell them. I was like, listen, I firmly believe that everybody should work. It doesn't matter for how long. Even if it's just for, like, three or four months, everybody should Work

either food service or retail. Like, just to have that experience because, um, it'll change you. Sometimes for the worse. >> Bo Glitchka: Uh, no, it's so true. It's a necessary, uh. >> Hunter Hoover: It's a Gsting ground. Yeah. Um, so, Bo, I want to ask. And we were talking a little bit before I hit record, um, about these. These. Okay. So you called it Hemaa. So before we hit record, I was like, is it fencing? Um, tell me about Himma. And then

also, how did you get involved? Because, uh, this is fairly recent because I. When I knew you, like, from before. I don't ever remember you doing it. Unless you did. You have secret life? >> Bo Glitchka: Yeah. No, this is a very, uh, very recent development in the grand scheme of things. So, uh, uh, I'll start with what Hema is. So Hema stands for Historical European martial arts. It falls within an umbrella that I suppose you could refer to as Western martial arts.

Like, you know, martial arts that, like, that would have originated in. For, um, the sake of keeping this simple. Europe. Um, there's a lot of different weapons and fighting styles you can adopt. What I do specifically is German longsword. Uh, and there's different types of longs. Like, there's

Italian known as Fiore. What I. What I do is, uh, it's based on the teachings of this 1300s sword master named Johannes Le Letonaur, who, uh, he never wrote anything down while he was alive, but his students took all his works and compiled them in this pnemonic poem called the Zetl, which is. If you read through it, it's basically like. It's just a poem about how to fight. Like, if your opponent does this, you do that. And it actually, uh. I'm going to Google here on my other.

>> Hunter Hoover: Yeah, do it. >> Bo Glitchka: Go for it. Uh, there's a couple of lines from that. I really. >> Hunter Hoover: Yeah, that. You know, I'm going to bring this up when I'm telling my high school kids about poetry because they always, you know, they always grunt and groan and I'mnn say, well, hey, uh, you never know. You might be sword fighting someone one day and need this as a reminder. A, uh, memory device or a tool to remind you of the next move.

That's such a specific thing. Tub. Bo. Like, this. This random, you know, like, swordsman, I guess. Was. Would you call him a swordsman? Or is it. I don't know. I don't know if that's. It's one of those things where I don't. It'if will I say something that's like, super offends some martial art community. Because I don't know. What. I don't know. >> Bo Glitchka: Oh, no, no. So, I mean, the he. So what's fun in the hem. Human community is just like the constant. It's just a

constant source of drama. Like, the longer I'm mostly, uh, like, revolving around current events. Like. Yeah, it's a fun community because it's. It's very. It's open, it's welcome. You know, it introduces people who know nothing about this thing. It raises them up helpful of like people with a lot of ego. Um, who.

>> Hunter Hoover: Yeah. >> Bo Glitchka: Um, you know, like, people like to think that they're right and, you know, we're bringing weapons into the mix and, you know, like, blood runs hot and it's a. Wow. It's, uh, a. You know, I like to myself pretty, like, drama free. And I like to observe drama. I don't like to, like, participate or strir. >> Hunter Hoover: Dr. >> Bo Glitchka: But like, learning about things is always

fun because the longer I'm in it, the more I learn about, like. Oh, like. >> Hunter Hoover: Yeah. >> Bo Glitchka: And like the sport itself. So. So Hema used to be called something known as, like, it was arma. And then like, this big. There was this big school and, like, it fell apart and all these practitioners spread to the winds. And least that's the. >> Hunter Hoover: Yeah.

>> Bo Glitchka: That. That is what, like, I. I was told about its origins because, like, as a sport, the concept of Hema, I think, is pretty relatively new. And like, just my luck, someone might listen to this and be like, bo doesn't even know the history of his own sport because we've. >> Hunter Hoover: The Internet warriors are always set as straight. That's what I've always learned. >> Bo Glitchka: It's true. Uh, and like'ing,

I spend a lot more time. Like, I go to. I should go read some manuals, do some research. Like, life is short. I spend a lot more time. I. You enjoy going to class? You know, I go to class like, three, two to five days a week, depending on how. How busy I am. Uh, you know, I go to class practicing my sword swings and. >> Hunter Hoover: Yeah. >> Bo Glitchka: Moves and whatnot and. And no. >> Hunter Hoover: Is it like. Is it a pretty good workout?

>> Bo Glitchka: Oh, incredibly. Uh, yeah. So, um, so why I got into it specifically. So I found, um, my coach had posted an ad in the Statesman journal or some local magazine. Um, yeah, about a year ago. Uh, or. No, like, we're going on like, almost a year and a half now. And so I emailed him, like, hey, I used to do Olympic fencing. Actually like about 14

or 15 years ago when I was in middle school in high school. And so see something like this available in Salem was really cool because we haven't had a fencing school in Salem in a long time. And I wanted something to do during tax season because I work from home. I'll sit down for like 10, 12 hours a day. Then I'll go play video games after that so I sit even longer. And so I really wanted something like uh, make me active. And

uh, and my. So my coach uh, he specifically makes it a pretty big workout because he wants us to be like pretty physically fit to meet the demands of the sport which I, I've done a handful of competitions and I think it's, his approach is really paid off. Like he, he makes us uh do a pretty intensive warm up. He makes us do wrestling drills. Uh, he spends time making us do cutting drills. Well like we'll do like a whole bunch of drills for just like the first half of class and then jump into a

pretty intense lesson. And uh, right now he's trying to get um, me and some of the other guys ready for tournaments uh, coming up this summer. So like even like up the antsi. He introduced exercise bands into the mix. He'll make us put an extraized band around our waist and we'll like like walk forward till there's tension and then we'll practice like springing forward you know just to uh, increase our like explosivity as uh athletes like it.

If I was doing like morning like, like morning weights like say like a high like a college athlete was doing. Yeah, it almost feels like that some days because like I go to practice, you know it's a two hour practice. I do that minimum three days a week sometimes. I'm doing less now because of tax season. If I wasn't doing tax season I might be going like like you know four or five days a

week. Plus my, my coach is also ah, he hosts what's called a mayce spel class on Monday and Wednesday um, during the lunch hour where it like it's like a dumbbell but it's like it's an iron bar like a like ball shaped weight on the end and you just like, like swing it around and stuff. >> Hunter Hoover: Yes. Uh, my uh, my father in law had uh one of these and had a bunch of us try to mess with it. That stuff that doesn't take much to get you worked out.

>> Bo Glitchka: Yeah, it's uh a like it's, it's fun. It uh, you know gets a um, gets your cardio up. It helps build muscle uh, which is uh, which I like because like the sword stuff is great. You know, I was trying to get more uh, like muscular, like exercise routines in place. Uh, yeah. So that's uh. >> Hunter Hoover: Wow. >> Bo Glitchka: Uh, if you have any feel like I've covered like a lot of like very like. >> Hunter Hoover: Yeah.

>> Bo Glitchka: Ah, you narrow topics. You have any specific questions? >> Hunter Hoover: I m. I do have a couple specific questions and one of them is related to the bathroom. Um, so you said. Yeah. You said earlier that you have armor on like during the competitions or even like during practice. What like is it like full body? >> Bo Glitchka: That's a good. Yeah. So, uh, we. So there's a different. A couple different types of fighting. So there's blas vectin, which

is. That's like middle German for fighting. And in blouse, like fighting in street clothes. >> Hunter Hoover: Okay. >> Bo Glitchka: And then there's a harness vectin, which is like fighting in uh, heavier kit. Right. Uh, so in medieval terms, like either you'd be like just wearing uh, what the average person would wear that day. Maybe you'd have a gambeson on or something.

>> Hunter Hoover: Yeah. >> Bo Glitchka: Um, oras if you were like a man at arms or a knight, you e. Have like some more like heavier armor. So. And the use of the long sword would change. Right. Because if I'IF you're an armor and I'm an armor and you both have swords, I'm not going toa like approach you the same way. I would like cut down an like an unarmored like. >> Hunter Hoover: Yeah. >> Bo Glitchka: Soldier or you know, like peasant or something. I'd like.

I'd grab my sword probably with two hands. So I could try to like work the point into a ah, weak spot in your armor. So what we do is called blasectin. You know, fighting in clothes we wear like uh. We wear pretty heavy jackets. Kind of like a gambeson. Um, I have like some special pants that have like a little bit of padding in the front of the legs. Um. Like. Oh, uh, yep. Very good. Very important. Uh, I, um. Every like every time I've not worn, uh, like athletic cup down below, I've

regretted immensely. So that's m. Like because we're like. We're hitting each other with like, you know, like four foot long like pieces of metal. So like, like, you know, protection and safety is like you're. You know, like I'm responsible for myself. I'm responsible for my training partner. Yeah. Athletic injuries are like. Are inevitable. >> Hunter Hoover: Yeah. Do you get pretty bad like it. Bruising? I mean, I assume you got. >> Bo Glitchka: Yeah. So I got this bl.

>> Hunter Hoover: And it's even got that weird green because it's been sitting. That's. >> Bo Glitchka: Yeah. So I bre. I breuise very easily. >> Hunter Hoover: So, um, naturally you took up hima bruising and. Yeah. Dang, dude, that's crazy. So, so full art. You've got the lesser. I mean not lesser room but like the softer covering type thing for. Is it, is it hard to get on and off for going to the bathroom and have you ever like had to go and had it be a problem?

>> Bo Glitchka: So when I, when I'm um, like on like a tournament day, I'm just chugging water because like I'm like, I have so much cloth. Like'a massive cloth on that. Like I'm sweating like a pig. I'm. When I go into the ring it's um, would. I would call it like. It's similar to boxing. Like if you're doing boxing, you have to have a good cardiovascular health. You're moving a lot. If you're. You're not moving, you probably gotta move more is how I. And I like to move.

>> Hunter Hoover: If you're not moving, you're losing. >> Bo Glitchka: Yes. I'm not to steal that. Like, I like to like dance. Like dance and bounce around and like. Yeah, I like to be pretty quick and's like I'm sweating a ton and so like, um. Like there's like, when it's downtime, like I might have to go like go do a number one like five, like five times in like a couple hours span just because like I'm trying to keep like stay hydrated.

And if I'm not fighting, if I'm like, if I'm sitting for a couple hours, like, well, suddenly I'm not sweating. So I, um, just gotta like make, you know, so I'I'M going back and forth, but I haven't had like any accidents or any crazy uh, like bathroom stories. But yeah, um, so it was when I told a buddy, I was like, oh, Hunter just asked me to be on this podcast. I'm like like, what am in talk about? He was like, oh, you should like, like, like what would one do on the battlefield back in the

day? I'm like, yeah, yeah, they'd probably just go in their armor. Um, like, either you like, you go before the battle like, because you don't want any distractions. >> Hunter Hoover: Right? >> Bo Glitchka: You know, if it comes down to a life and death situation, if you're in a line of men, you're you. The guy next to you is counting on you. You're counting on them. So it's like you either go before. >> Hunter Hoover: Or you're like go right in the middle.

>> Bo Glitchka: Are you going in the middle? Because like it's preferably before because. Because you don't want that distraction, which that just sounds like just nasty to be living that. >> Hunter Hoover: Oh man. You know, but that you're. You're probably right because um, you know,

I. I can't remember what it was. I want to say I was doing some research on like racing and stuff and there's like runners and bicyclists that like when they're in big, you know, day to day long races where there, I mean every second counts and their. You just on their grind, they're barely stopped. They will just go to the bathroom like in the middle of the activity. And I'm like that to me, uh, I think that would cost me more time just to deal with, you

know, the psychology of. Well, now I've got this to uh, maneuver for the next who knows how many hours. Yeah, I guess it wore like you can't be donawning and doffing. Is that the right word? Doffing. >> Bo Glitchka: Doffing. >> Hunter Hoover: Doffing. I think doffing is when you take it off. >> Bo Glitchka: Maybe not have to look into the uh, some. These uh. >> Hunter Hoover: Maybe that's a hunter hoover made up wording. Uh, goffing.

>> Bo Glitchka: I'll start throwing that word around and see how people react. >> Hunter Hoover: Yeah, see if they start looking at you like you like you're uh, like a sociopath or something. Doing the heck. Why do he say that again? He thinks it's a word. >> Bo Glitchka: I'll use that practice next time and yeah, see any. >> Hunter Hoover: Hey, y'all gonna doff your thing and just kind of give them the like. Huh? Anybody? Yeah,

I found that. Like, I'll do that a lot. I'll just kind of say words that I don't. I don't know if they're real. Then just lean into it with medium level confidence. Um, I think a lot of people are like, we're just gonna let him think it's a word. You know, I. Yeah, I don't know if it's pity or confusion. O. Uh, I just kind of lean into it. It's fun at the high school because those kids, sometimes they don't have the best vocabulary

as it is. So you're just like, yeah, guys, you guys think that like all these fake made up words are real words. So uh, you don't know. You, you don't know if my word's real. Um, it's true. Yeah. Um, man, that's so Is this like your first competition that you've done? >> Bo Glitchka: Yeah, I've done a couple. Uh. Oay did like one of the big clubs in Portland hosted a just, just a mini practice tournament back

in August that I did. Y. Uh, that was pretty fun. I did a. I uh got third place in the B tier at a beginner's tournament back in November. Uh, that was pretty exciting. Was. That's cool. It was like uh, I was say eight. I was like I got there eight and I was there till like nine or ten. >> Hunter Hoover: Yeah. >> Bo Glitchka: Then that was a blast. Uh, me and my coach and his son did a run a in a relay, a team relay tournament last weekend. So 12 teams, each team had

three people. Um, and we got third place. Was. That was exciting. >> Hunter Hoover: How does a relay work with this? >> Bo Glitchka: So uh, um. I don't know how prominent those are. It was just ah. The club in Portland hosted it is. They're trying to do something small like you know, once a quarter. Yeah. So the way it worked was you had 12 teams. Each team was in a pool. So had ah, uh, three pools. So three pools of four teams. And uh, each team would fight each

other team in that pool. And so you'd have a match and you would just both teams fight each other till uh, all of the fencers on that team uh w lost all their points. So each person had I think it was seven health points. Uh and so our strategy was whenever one of us would take a hit so uh, you could swap out for another teammate whenever you got hit. So we were like no matter what happens, one of us gets hit, we're going to swap out to the next guy because we

were wanted to stay nice and fresh. Plus mhm. It would let us get nice and warmed up in the process. And um, no one else was doing that in. A lot of people said that wow. Like I'd go into the ring to fight, I hit one of you guys and then another guy would come in. I had to figure out what to do about them. So apparently it was a good strategy. Uh, helps stay fresh. We only lost all of our health points and two of the

matches that we lost. It was our. We went uh, two to one in our pool, won two, lost one and then we lost our a match later which was the fight for the ability to place in first or second. So uh, I think we did pretty good. Yeah, uh, we've never fought as a team before. I kind of like the format. It's nice because uh, like I want to perform well to like make my team Proud and I'm also like relying on them. So I really like the, I'd love to do more stuff. Typically at a tournament it's just

yourself ye. You just uh, show up, you fight through your pools, you get placed in an elimination bracket and uh, then you just like fighte till, till you're done. Just one time at time. >> Hunter Hoover: Wow, man, that's neat. Um huh huh. That Who'have thought, you know, I'm like didn't even know this was a thing but here you are. >> Bo Glitchka: Yeah, I like prior to uh. It's crazy because I don't know what I did with my time

more than a year ago. Like I started this a year ago in January and it's like yeah, I played video games then. I still play some now. So was like that I'LIKE like I spend like a significant amount of time doing like I do two hours on Sunday, two uh, hours on Tuesday, two hours on Thursday. Sometimes on Fridays I'll go to other clubs and like if they have like a fight night and spary like I spen like a lot of time doing this and I'm just like my life just like feels so like I can't

imagine my life without it. And I've only been doing this for a year. >> Hunter Hoover: Yeah. >> Bo Glitchka: And so it's ah. I have like no plans to stop unless I got like severely injured or uh, move somewhere where they're just like wasn't himma. And even then I would, I would try to like you know, drum up the, you know, the local populace to yeah, that's awesome. Into it. >> Hunter Hoover: That's cool that you're like, you know, even if, try

to get something going yourself if that was the case. That's awesome. I think, See I think stuff like that, you know, I, I, I think so. Um, we kind of cross a lot of paths in the board game stuff back in the day. I think like that community is similar where it's like yeah, you know, it's a little bit easier to access the board game stuff in the game but like you know, like down here in Albany there's not a lot

like as far as board gaming. There's a lot of card gaming that goes on and it's been cool to like, you know, touch base with some people that are down here and just kind of drum that up. Like you said. It's um, it's cool. The communities that we can find that like fill our time but are also like man, I don't really know, I don't really know what I did before. I Did this stuff. Like, it's. >> Bo Glitchka: Yeah. >> Hunter Hoover: Yeah. That's cool. Do you u.

I did have a question about taxes. Um, so you. So you're a big fan of taxes? >> Bo Glitchka: Uh, I'm a big fan, um, of preparing taxes. >> Hunter Hoover: Oh, that's the correct answer. I was like. I was like, man, how do I phrase this to make it just sound the most frustrating? Any. >> Bo Glitchka: Yeah, like, um, some days I have to, like, call a guy and say, oh, you ow 50 grand. Like, that's not fun for him. It's not fun for me.

>> Hunter Hoover: Bo. You're kidding. Is that has. I mean, I know you can't talk about specifics and. >> Bo Glitchka: But, like, that's like. And that's like a small. Like, for some. For some clients've encountered, like, that s. Small. Like, I've. I've been in the room when we've called guys up and like, o. We're going to have you guys make a half a million dollar extension payment. Um, okay. >> Hunter Hoover: But they have to be, like, multiillionaires.

>> Bo Glitchka: And these are guys that have, like, big old construction businesses or something to that matter. >> Hunter Hoover: 500. Oh, my goodness. I get frustrated when I owe the state of Oregon, like, 400 bucks. >> Bo Glitchka: Yeah, I see. Like. And, uh, I'm closer to that level personally. Right. Like O500 or get 500 back? Like, Y. It's significant to me either way. >> Hunter Hoover: Right. That's crazy, dude. That's wild.

I don't even know if someone told me, like, hey, you owe any amount of money over. Over $20,000. I don't even know what I would. I would be like, how do you do? You just. I mean, you set an extension, but, like, can you take out a loan to pay your taxes? What do you do? >> Bo Glitchka: Uh, I assume many businesses, if they have, like, a rolling line of credit, you know, they probably draw from that. M. It's crazy. I'm not like, I think the goal.

I think once should have, like, a nuanced approach to debt. Right. Like, I wouldn't recommend you or I do that. I'd say, oh, you should consider, uh, getting an installment agreement with the, uh, IRs to handle that. I wouldn't recommend debt. Right. If it's a. A business, you. The goal is to like, not have that eventually, right. Considering the cost of interest. But there's a.

>> Hunter Hoover: How long. Like, when you sit down to do. Do you meet with people or is it like, they send you the stuff and they're like, call us when you got it and you're done crunching our numbers? Like, how do you? I guess. How do. I don't know how tax preparation works.

>> Bo Glitchka: So it's a good question because I think, like, for the last hundred years, like, you know, last, like, a lot of older clients have the mentality of, like, they want to come in, they want to sit down, they want to, like, go over all their documents, have them spread over the table. Um, I think it's totally fine. I get it. I work from home. I think my firm really focuses on a demographic that's okay meeting like this, you knowah, over video. Um,

like, I have some clients who are our age. They'll, like, send me stuff, like, no email. I'll just get a document upload. I'll prepare their return. I'YOU know that we send something to them to sign. We'll communicate with them if they owe tax payments or estimates. They might not say anything. >> Hunter Hoover: Like, that's wild. >> Bo Glitchka: Like, I have clients, I'll get one email from them a year. It's thank you and, like. And that's it. Uh, yeah, some people. That's

wild. Like, they have a higher level of concern. They, like, they, you know, they, uh, send me their documents and then they call me, they get the documents. I'm like, yes, I'm very busy. I have'not even looked at your documents, but I will get on that shortly. Yeah. And then, like, get into the return. It's like, I'll tell them, hey, this is like, you know, a rough estimate of what I think you'renna owe. Which sometimes they don't like that number. It'll.

>> Hunter Hoover: They don't like the word O. >> Bo Glitchka: They don't like the word O. Then it'll like, jog their memory. Oh, like, I have, like, this other information that suddenly I remember. I'm like, oh, okay. Like, that's great. And like, there's. >> Hunter Hoover: It's magical information that makes them owe me money. >> Bo Glitchka: Yeah. And so there's occasionally more back and forth. >> Hunter Hoover: Yeah, that's cool.

>> Bo Glitchka: It depends on the client. >> Hunter Hoover: Yeah. Have you ever, like, okay, so, I mean, you're. I mean, you can work quite a bit of independent, though. Then I was. I was wondering, like, because, man, is he, like, meeting with people and has he ever had, like, you know them? They don't come to your house. Do they, like, sit down and, um. >> Bo Glitchka: Uh, so I'm pretty fortunate working in my.

My job for my employer. So I. >> Hunter Hoover: That's cool. >> Bo Glitchka: Uh, I go up to the office like, four days a year. Um, yeah, like. Like there's a client that me and one of my employers go and meet like two days of the year in February. And then I go up, uh, for a like, firm training day in September. Then we do, um, we have like a firm like fun day where they like, treat us to food and we go do something fun. >> Hunter Hoover: Uh, that's, that's wild, dude.

I mean it's cool, but it's so foreign to me only because like, like I work at, I work at this high school where I see, I mean, truly some of these people at the high school, I see them more than I see my family sometimes. Like, I'm around them eight hours a day and just the thought of like, yeah, like four days a year is baffling. That's super cool that you get that because, uh. Does it get isolating though? >> Bo Glitchka: It does. So like, I would consider myself an

extrovert. So like, like, wife comes home, I'm like, jess. Then like, I'm excited. You. I get the seeps. Like, if I don't have any like, client meetings or like calls with a coworker, I could go like a handful of days without. Oh my goodness, like one. Which is great because I used to like, like my prior job, I worked like in an office, you know, with a number of coworkers. Like on my last day there, one of them used Bo. I will miss you. I'PROBABLY spent more time with you than I have with my

wife. Like, and it was like crazy to think about. I've been here so long. Like, like, like there's, there's days I miss being around like, people. But like, I'm pretty fortunate with this setup. I like working for home. >> Hunter Hoover: Yeah, you don't to. You don't have to share a bathroom space with people when you work from home. >> Bo Glitchka: That's. You don't have to talk. Be talking with a coworker. >> Hunter Hoover: Yeah, go.

>> Bo Glitchka: Oh. Or you know, like quick bathroom break. You know, like 15 minutes. Yeah. You walk to the bathroom and then your coworker keeps walking with you. >> Hunter Hoover: Yes. >> Bo Glitchka: And they're talking and I'm just like, I've been surrounded by people. Go away hours. I want my, like my five minutes, um, of just me in the bathroom. No, no, you walk to the urinal, this person'carrying on the conversation. Doesn't like, doesn't break

pace. He's out there like their uneral. You're at yours. And like, they keep talking. You're like, mhm. Hmm. This is great. Shut up. >> Hunter Hoover: And they're not even peeing. They're just standing there pretending to. No. >> Bo Glitchka: I'm not sure if that would Be better or worse. Now they're also peeing. Wash, uh, your hands. You go back, like, no break in the conversation. You're like, is there any peace, uh, that.

>> Hunter Hoover: Oh, my gosh. See, yeah, I'm, uh, fortunate because, like, it's, like, impossible for teachers to coincide their bathroomoming you. It's like you run to the bathroom when you get a second in an emergency. And so it's like, I don't run into that. But that's wild. The urinal bathroom conversation is. It must end. >> Bo Glitchka: Um, see, I grew up as a homeschooler, so, like, the bathroom to me was where I'LIKE I'm gonna go to the bathroom.

There's nobody else. You get like, a few minutes to do my business, and no one can. No one'sn talk to me. And it'like it's like, like the one place as a homeschooler, it's like you be, like, away from. >> Hunter Hoover: Nobody has drugged their computer and an audio mixer and a microphone out and set it up in the bathroom stall randomly. Next. >> Bo Glitchka: Have you. Have you ever been recording and, like, someone came in to use bathroom?

>> Hunter Hoover: Yes. Um, so at our. At our chat. The church here. So this is actually a little background for why I'm in this bathroom. I normally record in the men's bathroom in this building. Um, but there were so many cars parked

outside this building when I got here. I went, no. Because one time, a buddy of mine, he and I were in recording, and we're, you know, we're talking about going to the bathroom or something, and one of the elders of the church opens the door, sees us sitting there with a computer and all the stuff. He goes, huh? Uh, what are we doing, boys? And my buddy just looks, he goes, we're recording a podcast. Want to join? And he goes, he just. He just shakes his head, just gives us the like,

nah. And I'm on staff here. That's the like. Like, I work here. And he goes out and all I can hear, I said, I say, chris Chrri. And I can hear him outside the bathroom to his wife. He says, there boys in the bathroom with microphones and everything, telling his wife. And she goes, what? And he goes, yeah, they're in there right now. What do I do? And I'm going, I, like, look at my buddy. I was like, what do we do? I, uh, think he has to go to the bathroom. He goes, he could have

gone. And so, like, eventually pop my head as like, hey, I said, go knock on the door in the back building. I think the church secretary is back there. I was like, oh. So I do try to finangle it to where, um, I can maybe not have people walk in. I recorded one at a high school, at the high school I work at upstairs. And I didn't know this, but down, like. And you know when you get two guys talking in. In a closed bathroom space? That one was like. He and I were. Boom. We

were together. Uh, downstairs was the girls, um. >> Bo Glitchka: Uh. >> Hunter Hoover: Oh, it's like where they have the. It's like what J.D. used to do. J.D. smith. Um, that catch. >> Bo Glitchka: Oh, the, uh. Yeah. Col guarding. Yeah. >> Hunter Hoover: Ye. Yeah, yeah. The girls color guard team was downstairs practicing, and we walk out and. And they all are staring up like, what? And then I just hear it's Hoover. And I'm like. I said, mikey, were

cooked. We're. We're toast. They were. They're ono us like, what are you doing? The coach like, what are you doing? Because she's one of the special ed assistants. I was like, we're recording. And she's like, just stares at us. I. We all work here. It. It's all good. Nobody needs to know. They need to know. They'll go, listen. No. Um, so yes, I definitely have had people walk in. And, uh, at the start of all this, I was originally gonna, like, go to stores and go to, like, places and go into the

bathroom and just start recording. And then, uh, Kellen, Louie. I reached out to Kellen and I said, hey, I got question for you. Because he was like, in school to be a lawyer. I said, got question for you. If I record audio in a bathroom in somebody's like, business bathroom, is that. Is that legal? And he's like, you can tell. It's just. It's the exact interactions that Kellen and I always had where I would bring him something and he would just like. He's like, it. It's a gray area at best.

He says, remember, it's private property. So best case scenario, they say nothing. And they're like, hey, what are you doing? In their worst case scenario is they trespass you and call the police. And they have every right to because it's their property. You don't even have to be recording. You can just, you know, be in the bathroom too long and they can say, ah, e. I think he's in there up to no good. We're going to call the police. And I'm like,

ah, Albany's not that big. And I, uh, work in ministry with teens and work at a high school with teens. I should probably not be in the papers for getting arrested out of the bathroom. That's probably a better move. So we pivoted to at home, but's it's definitely easier to set up. I don't know what I was thinking in the first place, but. >> Bo Glitchka: Yeah, these things have to evolve over. >> Hunter Hoover: Yeah. Oh, and evolve. They. They do

they. This is like the joke that doesn't. Like, I. I started this as a goof, and it. It's like become this thing that I thoroughly enjoy it. I love it. Uh, I get to do a lot of research about a lot of stuff, and I didn't even know was a thing. Uh, but. And I get to talk to people kind like. I mean, like, we. We've. I feel like, texted and messaged on and off. You know, it's probably been a year or so since the real

big. And it's like, you know what? I'm gonna reach out to these people that I haven't talked to in a while and just catch up a bit. It's. >> Bo Glitchka: It's. >> Hunter Hoover: It's been a real blessing in that I've enjoyed it. Like, even, like Bradley, you know, I would text him every now and then and.

>> Bo Glitchka: Yeah. >> Hunter Hoover: Uh, and it was cool to connect with him because, you know, he got involved with some other podcast stuff that I was doing with Bible teaching. And, um. Yeah, it's just. It's neat. But, um, well, so, Bo, I have a. I have a bunch of questions that I ask everybody. Uh, and if you. If as you go through these, you're like, oh, I've said too much. Feel free to just say, text me. Like, hey, the question about the baths, we got to take that

out. Like, it is too much. I talk too much about this. Editing is great. And at any time. Because what I find that happens is as I start asking these questions, people are like, oh, my gosh, I have a story that I might need to tell about that. Feel free to stop me whenever if you got a story, because it happens. >> Bo Glitchka: Sounds good. >> Hunter Hoover: Um, so the first is what type of toilet paper

do. Do y'all use at your house? Like, what brand? What. You know, what do you got going? >> Bo Glitchka: Costco. Yeah. Yes, Kirk. Yes, I know there's, like, other brands. I think we just typ. Get this. The Kirkland brand. It. >> Hunter Hoover: Yep. >> Bo Glitchka: The job done. >> Hunter Hoover: That's right. Yep. >> Bo Glitchka: Not too much, not too little. >> Hunter Hoover: It's. To me, it's like the. It's. It's perfectly serviceable working

persons. You know, it's not. It's not super plush, but it's not, it's not sandpaper like the high school's got. It's. I take my own paper to the bathroom sometime of high school. The kids make fun of me. It's funny. They're like, oh, Hoover's pooping again. I'm like, shut it, man. >> Bo Glitchka: If I, if I worked at a school or any place with like, uh, now. Now that I work from home all the time, where I have like, uh, access to my toilet.

>> Hunter Hoover: Yeah. >> Bo Glitchka: If I ever did anything else like you, you bet I would bring my own teee to the bathroom, do well. >> Hunter Hoover: And like, I've worked at places like our church, they use Angel Soft. It's. It's perfectly fine. It's not terrible. But the stuff they have at the high school, I don't know. Like, I told them I, like, they have to seek this out on the Internet because I can't find this low

grade anywhere. Um, and I just went out and bought like 11 packages of toilet paper, different brands for an episode. It was a treat to have. Yeah. My neighbors across the street, they see me on load stuff from the back of my car sometimes because I, I do this podcast and then I also do youth ministry. Um, and they're like, why do you have that? And I was like, oh, it's for an event. And they're like, really? An event? You needed in it. You needed it. Why did you need a big pink inflatable

dinosaur? It's, it's youth stuff. Don't worry about it. It. It's just that, you know, that's such. >> Bo Glitchka: A succinct way to describe, like, what happens in youth ministry. >> Hunter Hoover: Yeah, yeah. Or like, you walk into my office, I've got a giant like 7 foot tall cut out of a bear of like a grizzly bear. And then I mean it, like probably a hundred little rubber frogs that I just stick all over the place all the time. And people walk in and it's

just, they're like, how do you. I'm like, I need all of it at some point. Like, I need one and a half foot wide light up neon dice in case we need to play this game. It's gonna be great. >> Bo Glitchka: Yeah, very understandable. >> Hunter Hoover: Um, and then do y'all, when you put the toilet paper on the roll, do y all fold it over or under? >> Bo Glitchka: We are an over household.

>> Hunter Hoover: Okay. So is wife. Your wife Jess is in agreement with this wholeheartedly, or. >> Bo Glitchka: Yeah. I feel like we've. I don't know if we've ever had like any altercation or just. I think it Just. She was like that. I was like that. >> Hunter Hoover: Yeah. >> Bo Glitchka: I imag. Other couples have a bit of culture shock, and they, like. >> Hunter Hoover: Yeah, you know, some of us are living in a culture shock. Uh, do, um.

Why do you think that it should go over? >> Bo Glitchka: So I heard your explanation when I listened to the episode with Brad. And like, what. What you're saying, like, in terms of, like, economics. That makes sense. >> Hunter Hoover: Yes. >> Bo Glitchka: Just every time I've had, like, I've seen it, like, under. I feel like it's just. It's an accident waiting to, like, like, just unravel itself, I guess. >> Hunter Hoover: Really? Uh, you're not first to say that. I just.

>> Bo Glitchka: Yeah. Which, um. Like, the physics of that. Well, like, wouldn't roll the other way too. >> Hunter Hoover: Yes. >> Bo Glitchka: Um, it's just all. It s just like, aesthetically, you know, it works. >> Hunter Hoover: It is. I will, you know. You know, Bo, I'I'VE had push in 40 of these conversations, and you're the first person to just say, you know what? Aesthetically, it just looks better. Like. I can't argue with that.

It does look better. I keep looking right here because our custodian, he's a forward guy and he does it to mess with me because he's been on this and'like all right, all right, all right. Bo, do you use bar soap or are you, like, a liquid soap lad? >> Bo Glitchka: So I don't use bar soap, mostly because I need to gain an awareness of decent bar soap to use. I think. I think I have for about the last year, chiped using, like, the, uh, like Harry's liquidid, uh, stuff, which is, uh.

>> Hunter Hoover: Yah. >> Bo Glitchka: It gets the job done. Smells good. No adverse side effects. >> Hunter Hoover: Yeah, Yeah. I, uh, I used to be liquid soap. Die hard liquid soap. And I had somebody turn me on to, uh, Dr. Squatch is the big one. Now it's like everybody's getting squat. >> Bo Glitchka: I. I used it, like, back when they first came out. It was like. Like. I was like Corbin. It was like that the pine tar, like, smelled. It's pro.

Like, it was expensive. And I was like, that is broken in college. >> Hunter Hoover: Yeah, they're in Costco now. That's like the big. >> Bo Glitchka: I know. They've, like'like um. It's changed big, like with the bar stuff in Costco. >> Hunter Hoover: Yeah, yeah. You get like, a six pack for, I want to say, like, 16 bucks or something. It's. It's still a little spendy, but it's. It's more with. It's not like $9 for a bar anymore. >> Bo Glitchka: Yeah, yeah.

>> Hunter Hoover: If you. If you don't get it on sale or on a deal. It can be, it can be steep. The other one is Duke Cannon. Um, um, my buddy turned me on to Duke Cannon. Dude. Their, their bar of soap is no joke the size of a brick. Like it is truly a brick shaped brick sized bar. Um, I mean it is, it's a weapon. >> Bo Glitchka: So I shower a lot. Like yeah, I'm. I wish, I wish I could do it different. I'm like I have to shower in the morning. Um, yeah,

like I, you know, if I go exercise, I shower. Like I, I shower too much. Right. Like you know with like between waking up and doing Hema. Like I. >> Hunter Hoover: It's better than the alternative. Like the alternative is not showering enough and that's not good for anybody. >> Bo Glitchka: That is true. >> Hunter Hoover: Yeah. >> Bo Glitchka: So I'm like I need, I need to like optimize my, my self cares. I'm gonna check out these do canon.

>> Hunter Hoover: Yeah, they can be a little spendy too. But they, they're big. Like I've only tried one. I can't remember what scent it was. But um, I think you can buy them in like, like sometimes sports, uh, like I don't know if Dick sporting goods or somewhere like that sometimes carries that type stuff or country western type stores will sometimes have it. Um. Yeah. Anyway, uh, how do you feel Bo? How do you feel about baths? >> Bo Glitchka: You? So the last time

uh. I wish I took more baths if I'm being honest. So last I took a. I was working. So Brad and I both worked for the school district doing uh, uh, landscaping. And I came home one time and like I got had this like, like this rash that started from my elbows and my knees. I don't know what thatk happened. It just, it made. Grew from there over like my like, like my legs, my torso. It like this, this rash of like these like like bumps and

I don't know what like what it caused. And so I took uh, a. I took a bath in lavender and it. And it went away. Like that's all it took. I don't know like what the helk's crazy. Uh, but. And so like I think like the memory I have baths from that was like it, it was like in like some sort of like video games you find like like a hot spring that. >> Hunter Hoover: Like like heals you. >> Bo Glitchka: That like heals you. Because like I was like, I was

miserable in like three days. I had to go uh, go up to like like north of Spokane to like a wedding I was going toa be in. I'm like, I'm like covered in like. I wish I probably got pictures somewhere. But like it was. It was awful and. But like, but the bath, like, I don't know what it was. But like apparently taking of bath and lavender heals some manner of rash that might be helpful to someone out there. >> Hunter Hoover: Yeah. >> Bo Glitchka: In the world who gets a rash that's

unexplainable sources lavender. Huh. >> Hunter Hoover: Huh. >> Bo Glitchka: Yeah. I'll know. Like, but like it wasn't. Must have not been poison oak or something. Like actually. >> Hunter Hoover: Yeah. Because that wouldn't have done. I mean that wouldn't have cured that to that extent. That's crazy. >> Bo Glitchka: Yeah. And I got out and it was like. It was like. It was like fading from my skin as I had like, as I like left the bathtub and then like, like rinsed off

in a show. Like wow. I'm m. Like like we were better. Uh, so no. Last time I ever took a bath. >> Hunter Hoover: That's wild. Hu. >> Bo Glitchka: Um. >> Hunter Hoover: Um. Do you so. But you're not like a. Oh man, it's been a. It's been a day. I need to take a hot bath. That's not a. >> Bo Glitchka: No. I, uh, um. I love a. I mean I, I. What I call hot shower is lukewarm to some. >> Hunter Hoover: No.

>> Bo Glitchka: Like, uh. I don't know if you can relate this, you know, being like fellow man with a wife. But like yess. Like, like a hot shower to her is like, like scalding hot to like. I don't. >> Hunter Hoover: I am um. I am your wife in that situation. I love, I love it just. It's like it feels like it's going to take your skin off. I just. Anna will get in the shower and it'll be said. She's like, what are you doing? She'll, you know,

she'll be like, ah. Like what I say it's too hot. I'm going, oh, no, no, no, no. Like if there's not a cloud of just of steam when you get out, even with the fan on, that's. That is the dream. I love it hot. Oh yeah. >> Bo Glitchka: I mean I, if it's like when it, when it becomes summer, like I like, I like taking a nice cold shower and like, like a lot of people like, like I guess I, I guess I'm able to. Like I, I have no aversion to cold, but like, oh

my. As getting like hot. I'm just like, we're out of here. >> Hunter Hoover: See, that's the thing. Like if it's summer, like if the air is hot, I can't deal. Like 80 degrees is my cap, I. I don't even like to do anything outside after 80 degrees. Like, I have to, but I hate it. >> Bo Glitchka: Agreed. >> Hunter Hoover: But one. One year, you know, it was one of those New Year's resolutions. Probably two or three years ago, I. I was like, you know what I

heard? Taking cold showers is good for you. I'm gonna start doing cold showers. And I mean, dude, no joke. January 1st, I got in, I turned it to cold. I stepped in, and I went, that, uh, resolution's over. Never again that. >> Bo Glitchka: Have you heard of. Of the James Bond shower? >> Hunter Hoover: The James Bond shower? I have notah. But'm think. >> Bo Glitchka: I think it's called that. But, like, so you start hot, and you slowly turn it down,

uh, until it's, like, cold. And, like, you do it that way. I know. Like, some. Some guys I got like, like, be a man. Take your cold. I like, huh. No fam. Like that. No, no, no, no. Like, if you, like, start hot and slowly turn it down like, like, like that's like that. >> Hunter Hoover: Ease yourself into it. >> Bo Glitchka: Only way. Only way. >> Hunter Hoover: I might have to try. Give that another shot. I'll say this. I had somebody did say, like, oh, you can't handle a

cold shower. I said, you. If you want my man card, you can have it. Like, it, like, you can have it. Just let me have a hot shower. Like, uh, yeah, I'll have to try the ease in, though. The James Bond. The James

Bond, yeah. Like. >> Bo Glitchka: Like, I can only just, like, I only way I'm gonna, like, hop in the shower and do, like, hold blast is if it's like, 90 degrees out, the AC stopped working, and I'm like, like, other than that, like, I have to, like, I just, like, I have to ease it down. >> Hunter Hoover: Yeah. Okay. Okay. >> Bo Glitchka: They can take my man card. >> Hunter Hoover: Yeah. Yeah. Um, so with showers, do you ever

take a shower in the dark? You ever take a dark shower? >> Bo Glitchka: So I'll know what it is about a dark shower, man. Like, like, if, um. Especially like, if there's like. Like just enough like. Like ambient light through. Like, only if you have like a. Like. >> Hunter Hoover: Yep. >> Bo Glitchka: Like a curtain or whatever. If it's like, if, like, the sun's in the right spot, like, you know, you got, like, privacy. Of course. >> Hunter Hoover: Yeah.

>> Bo Glitchka: No one, like, can see what you. You're showering. Like, something about that, like, is great. No, a dark shower, though, it's just. I don't know. It's just kind of pleasant, I guess. Like a bit of music while you re. >> Hunter Hoover: Yeah, it's like a. It's like one of those Sensory deprivation chambers. I've never been in one, but I assume it's like that because it's just. I don't know, it just. You start your day. I. Yeah, I um. Have you

ever. Have you ever eaten an orange in the shower as if it was an apple? >> Bo Glitchka: So I've. I've never eaten an oranges. So I've never eaten any. Eaten or drinking anything uh, really while in the shower or. >> Hunter Hoover: O. That was gonna. That was coming. So. Even. Even had a drink in the shower. Huh huh. >> Bo Glitchka: Never. I mean like other than like this. The splash effect of water. O. >> Hunter Hoover: Like Bo you gotta. You got toa get yourself

like a. Like a. Just like a cold. I love just polar seltzer. Just like flavored sparkling water. Um, like a cold seltzer. If you're a soda guy. A cold soda, um, you know, whatever your cold beverage of choices is enhanced by the shower. Like I swear by it. >> Bo Glitchka: That's fascinating. You know what? I'm have to try it. I'll have to try it and report back. >> Hunter Hoover: Yeah, it. It. I try to keep the sodas out of there because I'm worried like offh if I spill there's

gonna be a stickiness factor. But I'm. Dude, I'm telling you like that, that polar seltzer just cold from the fridge. Polar seltzer in the shower. Like you almost feel it all the way down because it's warm. Then again, I'm taking. >> Bo Glitchka: You're also taking like a scald lava burst nuclear. >> Hunter Hoover: Nuclear powered heat reactor showers. Um, but I've also like for you with the easing into cold. I've had people say that that's when they do their morning coffee,

they hit the. They grab the coffee into the shower and there they drink their coffee while they take their morning shower. Yes. >> Bo Glitchka: So I've heard like, I've heard a guys talk about like, you know, drinking a beer in the shower. Yeep. Coffee. >> Hunter Hoover: I've had a lot of people say, you know, a beer or like maybe. >> Bo Glitchka: I'll be one of the first guys to. So I love a good old fashioned. I'll be like the first like old fashioned in the shower guy.

>> Hunter Hoover: Hey, um, yeah, it uh, my. I have a buddy, he's like, he work. He you know, he works in trades. He goes. I get home, he cracks a uh, he cracks a cold beer and that's his. He is. He's like, I do want a night. I ain't. I ain't going crazy. But man, I have it in the shower and I just rinse the day off. And I'm like, dude, that's like. Yeah, it cold to me. Like, the perfect shower is I have mowed my lawn. It's

80 degrees. I have drank one polar seltzer while mowing my lawn, and I take the world's hottest shower with a second polar seltzer like that. Like, I'm smiling big when that happens. That's a good day. >> Bo Glitchka: You know, uh, like, I figured the, uh, beverage in the shower question is coming. I didn't know what. How was going toa answer, but I think I'm taking away something. >> Hunter Hoover: Yeah, I mean, it's worth a shot. But. But back to the orange. There's. You

can take an orange and. Because, like, it's peeled and there's no consequences. It's just. And the juices just go wherever and. >> Bo Glitchka: Okay. Okay. That's okay. That's actually so, like, yeaheah. Like, I eat a lot of fruit and I got like, uh, a. Like I had like, I managed to find, like, I haven't had good watermelon since, like, September. >> Hunter Hoover: Yeah. >> Bo Glitchka: Like, miraculously, I got some, like, sliced watermelon from Safeway a few days ago. And

a. It tastes. It. Maybe it tastes good because I haven't had watermelon in so long. But like, you know, it's like fruit like that. It's sticky, it's messy. >> Hunter Hoover: Watermelon, uh, in the shower. >> Bo Glitchka: Watermelon in the shower. Orange. I'm okay. I'm the orange one. Just't makes sense because, like, because. Because there's no. It's. Hold it easily. Yeah, there's no. Like, if you peeled it. That's okay. That. That's. I. That's actually smart.

>> Hunter Hoover: You're gonna. You're gonna be taking a shower and you're on your way into the shower, and you're gonna have like, your cold drink and your, your orange and your little bucket of watermelon in. Jess, what are you doing? Nothing. It s shower time. I've got to try this out. >> Bo Glitchka: I'll to see if I can do it before she listens to this episode. >> Hunter Hoover: So then she can side eye you. Like, wait.

>> Bo Glitchka: Yeah, like just. Just go give the episode a list and then you'that's. >> Hunter Hoover: Awesome. That's awesome. Um, do you. Ah. Ah, man. You know'll get there. We got to get there. Do you. Would you or have you ever performed a waffle stomp? >> Bo Glitchka: What's a waffle? >> Hunter Hoover: I'm so glad. I love when people ask. The asking is my favorite. It's because it gives me just One more opportunity to

share. So a waffle stomp is when you are in the shower and you have to poop and instead of getting out and going to the bathroom and doing your job and getting back in or not, you just let fly right to the bottom of the shower and then you just stomp it right down that drain. Just bo bo bo bop bop. Just stomp it away. >> Bo Glitchka: I don't know if I am proud or not proud to say that I've never done.

>> Hunter Hoover: Oh, I thought we were gonna get it. I thought you were gonna be like have. >> Bo Glitchka: Have you ever had. Oh like okay. So I listened to the Brad episode. >> Hunter Hoover: Yeah. Bradley. I don't think Bradley had and okay. >> Bo Glitchka: Like not, not him thank goodness. But like like yeah, he told the story ye of some uh. It A PVG here it was in pvg. There was a y Y. Someone took a dump on a tide pod. >> Hunter Hoover: Yes, yes, yes.

>> Bo Glitchka: Like closest I've heard to this like ah sort of thing taking place. >> Hunter Hoover: Yeah, it. It's a thing that people have done. Um huh huh. You know, we. Yeah. What more can a guy say it? I'm not going to tell you that. You should. That you should try that one at least once in your life. >> Bo Glitchka: Um, you know, I'm. I'm looking forward to a shower beverage. Probably never going to participate. >> Hunter Hoover: Yeah.

>> Bo Glitchka: In. If a waffle stop ever takes place, it's because a lot of things went really bad leading up to that. >> Hunter Hoover: Well that's just the thing is like in the times where it's happened, it's like it's an emergency and. And there is. It's danger zone. U. Um, yeah, it's. It's a. It's a tough. Look. I'm you know, I'm two in. In my life at two and a half in. In my life. I'm um. Yeah, it's. It's tough. The last one, dude, the most recent one is.

Is it. It's in the church. Like we have a shower and it is in the church and it was with three or four young adult college age dudes in the bathroom at the same time. Because I was in the shower and I'm like boys, I. I gotta go. Is. Oh it's full. And I'm like no way. There's no way. They're like no, I'm just got in here. It's gonna be like 10 minutes and in. It was just like I had eaten something bad and it was like well here we go. And then you just hear yeah, this.

>> Bo Glitchka: Is the, the stuff like like this Is like youth group. >> Hunter Hoover: Yeah. >> Bo Glitchka: Like, just like Pulp youth group. This experience. I. >> Hunter Hoover: Yeah, yeah. And then I had to tell our custodian here, I'm friends with them. I said, well, Michael, here's the deal. I did. I did this thing. I cleaned it. It's clean. You don't have. It's taken care of. But you. I feel that I must confess it to you. And he just

shakes his head and walks away. It's like, oh, man. No, Michael. Um, so you said you. But. So that said you got the waffle stom. But what. Which. So there's another category of people. And I will say I've never met this category. Thank. Thank God. Um. Um, there's a third category of people that instead of getting out and doing that or stomping it, they actually, like, either poo into the bottom of the thing and then, like, scoop it up and then deposit it into the trash with their hands

or. And this is like a subcategory, they try to catch it and, like, toss it in the toilet. This is depraved. Um, and I'I used to ask people, like, which would you be more likely to do? Stomp it or toss it? But I quit asking that because most people either, like, I'm not doing either. I'm just going to get out, which is fair. And I've realized that it's just a dumb question because I don't know anybody that is, like, I think I'd actually catch it with.

>> Bo Glitchka: And to me, I have never imagined. >> Hunter Hoover: Bo'like my Internet's different than yours. I don't know. Uh, my algorithm is totally shot, like, through doing this show. The recommendations are like, wait, what? >> Bo Glitchka: Okay, are you. Are you a Tik. Took an Instagram or a YouTube scroller? >> Hunter Hoover: Oh. So. Oh, man. I'm going to say I'm going to reveal a lot about who I am. Um, um, when it's. When it comes to scrolling and I

don't do a lot of scrolling. It's like, usually, um, 20 minutes before bed before I, like, brush my teeth and settle in. But Tik Tock is my scrolling app. Dude. I China can have my data, baby. Um, I'm that algorithm'feeding them to me. And, uh, I find like, TikTok is more consistently giving me stuff that I like, like. And I understand, you know, there's all sorts of arguments about, like, oh, they're selling your data and they're tracking your eye movement. I don't know how much that's real.

>> Bo Glitchka: As if any of the other apps are that's it. >> Hunter Hoover: My mom, you know, my mom, bless her heart, she's like, well, that app, I said, mother, I have Pokemon Go set to always track my location. Always. Um, everywhere I go, Pokemon Go is tracking me. If they want to know where I'm at, they've already got it. >> Bo Glitchka: Like, and that was like the big one recently. It was like they were using it to like 3D map. Like, like, oh, yeah's what, what's the

word? Architecture. Uh, yeah, yeah. Like points of interest. Ye. >> Hunter Hoover: Oh, yeah. >> Bo Glitchka: Obvious specific word. I'm looking. >> Hunter Hoover: If they, if they try to map me, it's gonna be the most boring map ever drawn. It's like, does he do anything but go to these four buildings ever? Like, my life is lived between four buildings. My house, the gym, the church, and the high school. Like, uh, uh, sometimes I'll go to Costco

and get a hot dog. Like, I'm boring, dude. It. They can have my data, but no. >> Bo Glitchka: They'Re going toa know those four places in Albany real well. >> Hunter Hoover: Yeah, they're like, well, I have an app that, like, I can track where I poop too. It's a poop map, dude. It's great. It's social too, so you can like, share it with friends. >> Bo Glitchka: When you go to the bathroom, do you always use the same stall? >> Hunter Hoover: U. Um, oh, like, like at these.

>> Bo Glitchka: Places I, like you're at work. It's like, that's my stall. >> Hunter Hoover: Like, well, so see, this is. I'm glad you asked this Bo. This is a good thing. I'm gonna air a grievance to the people that won't hear it at my high school. So currently I'm trying to gain access to a better, more privileged, nicer bathroom our at the high school I work at. Um, but I'm going to call it discrimination because that's what it is. But, uh, they will not allow me

to use this bathroom. Uh, I don't know why. They will not give my key code access to this building. Like, they will not do it. So I use the peasants bathroom, which is this like, old janky pounk thing. The toilets, like, wobbly on the ground. Uh, there's pictures of this bathroom. In fact, there's pictures on my phone of this bathroom with no toilet and like a hole in the ground. And I had to walk like way far to find a bathroom one day. It was close. Like, it almost had an

emergency. But so I, I do use the same stall, but not by choice here at the church. I, I, um, if I actually change it up, uh, and the reason I change it up. O Here we go. We're, we're getting into it. Um, one of the toilets is taller because we have a lot of older folks in the church. Um, and so I will use the tall toilet like 75% of the time. But the other 25% is on days when I know it's been busy. Like, oh man, Sunday mornings. There's not a chance. I'm using the short one

because it's fresh. Like that one is less used. And I know I'm getting a more like purified. But to uh, to porcelain, you know, experience. It's. Yeah. It's less adulterated seating. Yeah. At the gym. I try not to use the bathroom at the gym because I was on like a two year thing where I was posting and tagging the gym and I actually like the one lady's like, hey, you gotta quit. And I was like, o man. But because it would not get

clean, dude, it was a lie. They're like, we're cleaning it. I was like, nothing is that caked on that you cleaned like I was a janitor for 10 years. Don't, don't sell me your bill of goods. >> Bo Glitchka: Um, I've never had a bathroom experience at the gym that was like, like not good. Like humiliating in some fashion. Like, it's just. Yeah, it. >> Hunter Hoover: Why is the floor wet? >> Bo Glitchka: Just. Yeah, it's just like activities

that just like have never gone well together. Like. >> Hunter Hoover: Yeah, yeah. U. Um, yeah, no, that's a good question. Uh, do you. I think I already know the answer. Do you did any toilet snacks, toilet drinks? You know, do you ever take yourself like a bag of chips on the. >> Bo Glitchka: Toilet or so I've never consumed a beverage or food on the toilet. >> Hunter Hoover: Okay.

>> Bo Glitchka: Um. I've always been intrigued. So like when I was in high school, I worked at a summer camp for three years and there was a, a thing about like, like some guy was like, have you ever had a glass of water while you were on the toilet? And like people would like, would like. Because of that, we decided to give it a. I was neverave brave enough I guess to experience this sensation. >> Hunter Hoover: It is unique. Like, especially

if you. I mean this is, this is one of those where it's like, really? Why, uh, do you. But if you can somehow time the like swallowing of the bite with the like actual expelling of the waist. It's almost like. It almost feels like you are a human body version of one of those old like pencils that you pull the mechanical end and stick it in the top and then it pushes like the fresh mechanical tip out the end. It's like you become like a human

mechanical pencil tip. It's um. But it, dude, it's, it is unique and it is an. It's a feeling that is one of a kind. It's like, huh, I know that the food that I just swallowed isn't the food that just came out, but my brain is tricked into believing it is. Um, um. >> Bo Glitchka: I don't know. If I give that a try, I will report. >> Hunter Hoover: Oh, it's just. You're just like, why do

I have so much food in the bathroom all of a sudden? No. Do you have any bathroom pet peeves that just drive you up a wall in the bathroom? It doesn't have to be at home with your wife sometimes, you know, it's spouses have their things. But. >> Bo Glitchka: U, uh, trying to consider how, how, how it can into. >> Hunter Hoover: It can be public too. Like, there's people that are like, oh, public bathroom. When this happens, I'm done. Like

for me, it's when people public be. This is fresh 1. The toilet pa or the paper towel crumple, crumple, throw. And. And they miss. And it's like, dude, the. The trash is 6 inches below the paper towel dispenser. Just if you missed, that's fine. It's embarrassing. But pick it up, put it in the thing and then you just get the mountain on the floor at, uh, yeah, stuff like that.

>> Bo Glitchka: See, I feel like there's this, it's been a, you know, this trend over the last 15 to 20 years towards like, in our quest to like, optimize the process of washing our hands and drying our hands. Like, we've, we've sacrificed all semblance ofan, uh, of cleanliness. Like, like, you have these like, like water faucet, like detectors that were invented by the biggest jokester of all time is the only way I can think to describe it. Like, I've.

I've never felt like, satisfied with the amount of water. Like, like soap. Soap's fine. Of soap. I've never been satisfied with the amount of water I get to like, rinse, like properly wash my hands and rinse my. Like, yeah, like, it''s never hot. It, it doesn't. >> Hunter Hoover: I'mnna send you a video of my

church'tap because my. Our custodian is a. He, uh, is s a lovely man, but he's also a tyrant and he has governors installed and no joke, it almost doesn't come out long enough to like, overcome the surface tension of the water and cause it to go down. It, like, follows the curvature of the spigot and then drops. That's how I'm like, yeah. Oh, yeah. This is just like, I'm with you. >> Bo Glitchka: Like, that happen. It's like, you know, like, I can.

Like the. The drying. Like. Like the drying part. I understand. Like, we're're trying to use less paper. We're trying to, like. Like, find. We have these, like, Dyson airblade things that I'm, like, I'm not convinced. This is like. Like, I feel like we're just replacing the germs I just washed. >> Hunter Hoover: Yes. >> Bo Glitchka: Like, the faucet, though. Like, can't we. We got to fix this, people.

>> Hunter Hoover: Yeah. >> Bo Glitchka: Like, this is the brighter fe future for humanity. I envision is one where, like, a little, like. Like, demon isn't, like, sitting inside a faucet. Like, oh, I'm gonna give him his water. Like, don't get what I need. Then I go to the faucet next to me. Then the one I was trying to get water from goes off.

And. And then, like, you know, I try only do that I went a bath because I t want to, like, you know, ruin the next guy's experience when he comes and tries to get his water. And it's like, yeah, um, timer well. >> Hunter Hoover: And so. And this is not to make. Not to get political, and I. And I. But, um, it is Joe. Our former president, Joe Biden, he passed a bill in honor of, like, World Conservation Day or something. I think it was

2022. He passed this bill that, like, regulated all faucet production. Like, it was to limit the flow of water on shower heads and bathroom faucets. >> Bo Glitchka: Interesting. >> Hunter Hoover: So, like, all these people had to change manufacturing for a handful of years. And I believe he also repealed it in, like, 23. Uh, he might have started it in 2020 and then repealed it in 23. I mean, it was.

>> Bo Glitchka: Joe's a man, same as us. He had to have seen the effects this had y On his personal life. >> Hunter Hoover: Yes. It's like, it's one of those things where. And I have this conversation with the kids at high school all the time because they. Many of them are convinced it's like, oh, I have to save the planet. And I'm like, listen, I'm all for taking care of what we got. I'm not against that. But let me explain

how the world works to you. Like, the amount of. The amount of emissions and the amount of, like, global warming that we contribute to as Americans fractions compared to other countries. In the world who do not care as much. And I said, and so you can spend your life offsetting them or you can enjoy a nice hot shower, like, and. And then have the mental fortitude to go out and do good work to do twice as much. You know, uh,

that's. That's what I try to sell them. I'm like, I'm convinced that like, while, yes, I know that it's. It's wasteful technically to do some things, but. But the, the ease that it brings my life and the satisfaction it brings me allows me to operate better in a world and produce maybe more net good in the world. And then I start using the word net good and they're like, what if you say they get all mad and.

>> Bo Glitchka: I'm like, this is a stance like, I think I can get behind pretty, pretty easily. >> Hunter Hoover: Yeah, I mean it's just like, you know, I'm not, I'm not running water for an hour. But like, yes, I run the water and let it run until it's hot before I get that shower gone. Like it's fine. Um, I'm not icing myself. I did it once. I'll never do it again. Maybe, maybe I'll ease in. Um, do you have a restaurant that does you the dirtiest

bathroom? W. Like when you eat this place, you know that. Yeah, we're not going out. It's gonna be bad. >> Bo Glitchka: Uh, sok. I'm gonna dig deep here. Think if I there's any specific, uh, not, you know, huge fan of Porta. Like. Like there's some. There's some Porta Potties that are will maintained out there, but yeah, uh, some food truck places that aren't like. I don't know if you've been to that new one, like that one station like an Albany that has.

>> Hunter Hoover: Oh yeah, the Barn. >> Bo Glitchka: Like yeaheah, yeah, the barn. Like that like nice facility. IUM has indoor restrooms, like food truck places that don't have like any sort of like infrastructure yet just to Porta Potty. I'm like, yeah, it's just like I'm uh, a like, you know, my. >> Hunter Hoover: We live in a world of bathrooms. >> Bo Glitchka: And you like that when we get to like, like latrine related activities.

My mental fortitude is. Is on a razor's edge. >> Hunter Hoover: Oh man. Dude, I. Oh, I have an Instagram page that is not heavily followed at all. And you will know why as soon as I begin to describe it. But it is where I used to put these on the privy page. And then I was told by a Friend. Hey, people aren't here for this.

This has to live elsewhere. But I would I as a janitor and as working in high school and just people knowing that I do this show, they will send me the most heinous shots of a bathroom that they'found. Just like decimated bathrooms. And so I have this. This page called, uh, Randy Bowls. And it, like I said, it is not very heavily followed because it is very niche. The number of people that are like, yeah, I need to see some. Some messed up toilets. Um, and. But the other thing is like I.

And this is listener. If you're like Randy Bowls and you go all. He just. He just went in hand. Hand before my Lord. Every one of these was taken either by me or by someone that I know personally. This is not Google searched. Like, no, this is. This is boots on the ground. >> Bo Glitchka: Uh, my man. These are absolutely vile.

>> Hunter Hoover: And I have many more. But I have to like, I have to be careful on my, on my rollout because, um, like I have pictures of the bathroom at the high school where I will get a radio because I have a radio for my job and I'll get a radio call and to be like, o, uh, can we get a custodian to building two Boys bathroom? We have a severe overflow. And I'm like, watch the room. And I just run over there with my phone. Like, I got to get a picture before she cleans it.

And then I'm like, yes. And I like, crap. If anybody that I work with sees this, I'm toast. So I've got to like, like strategically roll those out in the summer where it's like, yeah, I don't know. That's weird. Uh, it's been like six months. I don't know how that got on there. Um, yeah, there's one though, uh, that I'll like, have my phone. I'll be scrolling. This happens. And I'll be showing like on. Oh, let me show you this picture I took todayoooo. Boomp. And it's just this big. Just pile.

And she's like, stop. She just. Every time she goes, get it off your phone. I'm sick. I'm sick of you trying to show us a picture of the backyard or this thing that you built. And then just bam. I see this nasty toilet. She's like, from now on, I don't want to see your phone until you've got the picture ready. Quit scrolling. I'm like, okay, you know, um, yeah, no, that's. That's totally understandable. U. Um, well, Bo do you have any, like, parting bathroom wisdom to leave people with like,

recommendations or things that are re. Like, hey, we got to do better and this is how you can do it. >> Bo Glitchka: Uh, scent control is. Yeah, okay, Good for. For mankind, I think. >> Hunter Hoover: Yeah. What's your go to, like, sent control method? >> Bo Glitchka: Uh, at one point. See, um, I'm like a hypocrite because I haven't. We haven't used it in and so long. We had this like, it was called like. It'like a play on poopri is like o. Play on

potpourri is like poop. Poourri. >> Hunter Hoover: Oh, yeah, poour. I've got one in my desk drawer at work. I've got one in the church office too. I never. Yeah, I almost never go without it. Huh. >> Bo Glitchka: I just think these things are just good. >> Hunter Hoover: I don't understand. Like, poop is so cheap. It's like three dollar for a little thing of it. And you don't need much. And like, if you just set it in every bathroom, just. All right, now go.

And that. Dude, that stuff'so cool because it like, provides this weird layer on top of the water that when you go, it like locks it in. It's hard to explain, but it's fascinating. So, yeah, control the stink. I like it. Um, any other wisdom for people? >> Bo Glitchka: So earlier in the episode, I had mentioned that mnemonic poem. Oh, yes, mnemonic. I think matter the term from. So. So this was compiled by the students of Johannes Leakedtonau, that Longsword. Ah, master from the

1300s. I'm just going to read you the first three lines because you're a teacher, you work with young students. You know, I think we're both aware of the. Of the plight and finding good role models that these kids face. Um, I think you might appreciate what this has to say. Might not. I'm justnna read it. No, you should, young knight, learn to love God and revere women. Thus your honor will grow. Practice knighthood and learn the art that dignifies you and brings you honor and warth. And

I just like the wisdom in that. You. I like the hierarchy of loving God, of respecting women. I think you can take. You can spin that in a lot of different ways. Like you. I think specifically for young men, you know, depending like on the role models they look to, their view of. Of both like God and women is gonna be very skewed and negative. Yep. So no, that was, uh, I. No, that's good about that. Uh, those lines quite a bit.

>> Hunter Hoover: Yeah, those are good lines to reflect on you know, and this is the other thing that I think is important. And this is kind of where I step away from the, like, bathroom guy and I step into the, like, church guy a little bit. They

overlap more than I expect sometimes. But is the, like, the importance of church people and the church to be open to finding, like, wisdom that is sound, that has, like, very tangible and clear biblical principle that it's not scripture, but it's like, no, but this is applicable and it's. And it's tangible. And. And just because it's not book, chapter, verse, it's still very, very, you know,

like, needed. And sometimes, like, like you're saying for these kids that need role models, sometimes that's the wisdom, and that's the stuff that gets them into thinking about scripture because it's like, well, I mean, you know, you start quoting the Bible to a kid and they. They kind of gloss over sometimes. Um, but, you know, if you say, like, hey, you like these. Show them that, you know, this, this Hema and this stuff that you're doing. And. Did I get it right, Hema?

>> Bo Glitchka: Yeah, you did, sir. >> Hunter Hoover: Let's go. I was worried. But, like, you show them this stuff, and you see these guys, like, taking these big, long swords at each other, and then it's like, yeah, you know, the principles behind this or this, and it's like, oh, okay, well, shoot. You know, even if it. If it gets the attention of one or two kids, I think it's valuable. So. No, I appreciate you sharing that. That's good. That's good. >> Bo Glitchka: Of course.

>> Hunter Hoover: Um, well, Bo, I'm going to end this call, um, before I do, I'm goingn. I'm going to say the outro. What I always tell people is, um, whenever I have to do the outro and I have a guest, I feel like the dog in the backyard, um, that is squatting to take the dump. And the owner has now begun to watch the dog and the dogs, like, over the shoulder. And it has to. It has to get it done, but it knows you're watching. So I'm now the dog,

and I'm gonna. I'm gonna close out the show, uh, in front of you. So, listener, thank you for being here. Thank, uh, you for listening to another episode of Privy. You can go find our stuff, the links in the thing below. And. And if you. Bo, do you want them to be able to find and follow you or you, like. I don't know. I don't know about these guys. >> Bo Glitchka: Uh, I mean, there's only one Boglicitcha in the world. So if you. You really want to find me, it's not that difficult.

>> Hunter Hoover: Sweet. Yeah. Go seek it out. He does have some pictures of, um, the Hema and things that he's done. That's actually the way that I first saw that you were doing it. I was like, whoa, he's got, like, armor on. No. Um, but yeah, go. Go check those things out. Um, yeah. Thanks to Kevin and Poddington for the use of your music. Uh, you can. You can find their links down below as well. This has been another episode of Privy. Thank you so much for listening.

And now, as always, don't forget to flush. Then we just jam it right back here. Dear listener, little. Little after show special here. The toilet that I'm currently seated on does not have a seat. What I mean by that is it has its standard seat but no cover. So the flush that I just performed has wet my butt drastically and beyond what I expected.