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All righty then . Ladies and gentlemen , welcome back to Privacy , please . Cameron Ivey , here with Gabe Gumbs . Gabe , how are you doing , man ? I am all right , I am all right . Is that the just a legit version of living the dream ? But you're not hiding it .
That's the psychotic laugh right before breakdown . That's what that is . I love it that big joker grin . Let's put a smile on that face , shall we ?
Let's put a smile on that face . Yeah , so lots of things happening in the world of security and privacy , as always , which is why we were able to talk every week . It's been busy . It's been busy , it has . There's one story that I wanted to dig into that was interesting . It's ProPublica .
Now , if anybody's not too familiar with the story basically , gun owners group demands federal investigation into firearms industry data sharing . So gun owners for safety , propublica investigation has urged federal agencies to investigate the National Shooting Sports Foundation for secretly sharing gun buyers' personal data for political purposes .
The group labeled the NSSF's actions are underhanded and emphasizing that gun owners' privacy transcends political lines . I thought the funniest thing obviously we'll just throw it out there on top of it was that they shared part of some of the sensitive data was underwear sizes . I mean , that's just great .
I so many questions Like
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why do you need to share your underwear size when buying a gun ? You know that ?
that is the first thing that should come to mind , like , all right , so you want to Smith and Weston , and what's a ? What's your boxer size ?
Oh , maybe . Maybe it's because they're buying like gun holsters or , like you know , like the around the waist ones , and maybe it's like waist size ? Like I don't know . Like why is your underwear size included in your gun purchasing history ? Like I have a lot of questions and they start there . They start there .
This is the problem with privacy , right , like everyone , anyone who ever makes the claim that like , well , I don't have anything to hide . It's not
¶ Gun Industry Data Sharing Scandal
whether you have anything to hide . It's like do you , do you really want them to know what size tiny white is your rocket gabe ?
have you not bought a gun before ?
I mean , let's just say that if I let's , just say , if I did I'm a man who greatly values my privacy and probably would not do so in any way that that would necessarily leave a paper trail .
That's fair . Now I can be a betting man and say I can look at most people and guess their underwear size . That's true . It's true , Just going off of my own size and what I wear .
But can you do that with your eyes closed for everyone that has bought a gun in America ? No , you can't , but this data can , and so look the use of personal gun purchase data for political targeting . It exposes a serious breach of consumer privacy , as does telling about people's draw sizes . But
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you know , the irony , of course , is it suggests that even a rights-driven industry , right like the entire gun industry , is predicated upon rights and personal rights and privacy rights even for that matter , and they're not immune at all to exploiting user data for hidden agendas .
Right Like the gun industry publicly positions itself as a defender of individual rights and privacy , but , like quietly , it's obviously engaging in practices that , if anything , they mirror the very government institutions that they normally criticize .
Yeah , I mean the good news is is the Senator Richard Blumenthal . Yeah , yeah , yeah , Rich Blumenthal . He supports the investigation , so maybe he doesn't want people To know what size Underwear he has .
He's definitely An extra small .
Okay , but we have good news for the listeners , though we're actually developing a tool that will remove your underwear size from purchasing .
Yes , it's just called going commando . You already know you like weapons . Going commando is right up your alley .
You know , I'm going to be honest . I had a friend and I think he still wears this . I'm not going to name any names , but he wears jeans without underwear and I'm like you're insane .
There's nothing wrong with that ? There's really only one hard and fast rule you never go commando in another man's fatigues .
That's true , that's the only hard and fast rule . That's a great rule too , and guys know that Never go commando in someone else's jeans or anything . Yeah , or anything , yeah , don't do it . So I got some questions for you and maybe we can bring out some thoughts here .
Let's see how do you think this issue , this particular issue , kind of impacts the broader conversation about privacy and data protections when it comes to all industries .
My hope is that it is seen as an actual problem across the political divide . Privacy doesn't usually like in my experience I haven't seen it be a very you know big political football but it shows up . It shows up in politics .
The fact that it is California that enacted , you know , the nation's first and most significant privacy regulation at scale equally says something . But privacy is an everybody problem .
Privacy is an everybody problem and over the years there's been different privacy debates , which again right back to the gun industry being the very defender of private and individual rights . It is the very gun industry that has supported lesser government involvement in private matters and whatnot . But my hope is that it is seen
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as an everybody problem . This sucks . When you buy anything , it doesn't matter what that thing is . You buy a thing legally , you buy a weapon . One shouldn't have that data used , certainly to manipulate you .
Yeah , I mean , if you know somebody's underwear size and not their favorite drink , that's a problem .
You're skipping some steps . You're skipping some steps . There's a consent problem . There is a consent problem .
There's a consent . The other red flag was that the NSSF collaborated with Cambridge Analytica to enhance voter data .
That's a dirty name .
Yeah , everybody knows that name .
That's a dirty name yeah .
Everybody knows that name . That's a dirty name , so okay . So let's leave . I know we only . This is a short episode . We wanted to just kind of dig into this a little bit further , but I want to challenge some of our listeners that are privacy professionals , privacy lawyers , whatever . What are your thoughts on this ?
What are , what are some of the potential outcomes with the investigation ? What should we be looking for ? What questions should we be asking ? If somebody wants to come on and talk a little bit more about this and some of the other incidents that are going around , I mean , we'd love to have you on and love to get your input on this . Yeah for sure , gabe .
You got anything else before ?
No , no , this is a great topic . We'd love to invite some debate , some conversation , some healthy interactions online , and next week we'll get back to some of these topics .
Sounds good . We'll see you guys next week . Thanks for coming or tuning in , I don't know . We'll see you next week , yeah , later .