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Safety Moment - Delving Beyond Surface-level Problems

Apr 24, 20245 minEp. 820
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Episode description

In today's episode, Todd Conklin talks about a profound reality everyone comes to understand with time and experience. This striking insight is about delving deeper into surface-level issues, to discern what's causing deeper-rooted problems in workplace scenarios. Todd shares an intriguing anecdote about a friend's team's struggles with trust-building which provides a springboard for this insightful discussion.

Pivoting the conversation from a drawn-out trust-building exercise that ended up being unfruitful and counterproductive, Todd invites listeners to re-calibrate to a new perspective. He suggests that the problem might lie elsewhere. In fact, trust, or lack thereof, is just a symptom of a more profound issue. The real concern may very well be a lack of clarity regarding each team member’s mission, responsibilities, and deadlines, resulting in unfulfilled promises and agreements.

This eye-opening talk challenges the listeners' conventional methods of problem-solving and pushes them to look beyond the obvious. Todd emphasizes that merely addressing the surface-level issues might not solve the underlying impediments in team coordination and project management. It's a call to peek under the hood and truly understand the dynamics of teamwork and the fundamental elements required to foster a trustworthy, efficient work environment. Stay tuned, and let's dive deep into identifying and addressing hidden issues that hinder team growth and productivity.

Engage in our journey to make work-life safer and more fun. And remember all along: Be safe, be kind, learn something new every day, and above all, have as much fun as you possibly can.

Transcript

Not Everything Is as It Appears

So did you ever notice that some things aren't what you think they are? That some things look like they're going to be X and end up being Y? Music. Hey everybody, Todd Conklin, Pre-Accident Investigation Safety Moment. Today, we're going to talk about the amazing piece of information that I think you learn as you work. And because you have experience working, being a part of an organization, you kind of figure stuff out as you progress.

I don't want to say as you get older, because that sounds weird and depressing. But as you gain experience about the world, as you become more seasoned, like a cast iron skillet, you start to have some basic kind of understanding that not everything is as it appears. So the best example I can give of this is I was just talking to a friend who the team that she's working on is having some issues around coalescing and coming together as a team.

And the determination was made probably with some goofy survey. She didn't say this, but you can sort of play along with this, that there was a lack of trust within the team. So they brought in an expert, and that expert did an entire day on trust building, trust building, trust building, trust building. And they did kind of amazing things like leaned on each other and, you know, fell blindfolded into a crowd of people.

And then at the end of the day, they did what's good about you and what's bad about you. And it didn't go well. I mean, people didn't like to hear what was it. It hurt feelings and it scared people and it wasn't effective. And so we were talking about this and I thought, well, you know, that's interesting. But the problem isn't trust. Trust is a symptom of really a bigger, deeper problem. That the problem is not trust. Trust is a symptom.

And in fact, the bigger challenge is, is are they making agreements with each other? And then most importantly, keeping those agreements with each other. If you look at accountability and you think of accountability as a clarity exercise, then there's a lack of probably clarity about who does what and who finishes what and when they finish what.

And so I asked the question, just kind of casually, because we're talking about it, is there a lot of problems with people making promises and not keeping them? Or are we in a position where workers have so much to do, there's no way they can do it all? Or are we in a position where maybe the workers don't understand clearly who is responsible for major parts of the deliverables? And this friend of mine said, all those things are incredibly true.

Lack of Clarity in Agreements

In fact, that's been a huge problem with this project, with this team since we've begun, is there's not a sense of clarity. And people make agreements with people, but then they don't keep those agreements. I said, well, it seems like that's what you should have talked about on your day of building trust. And she looked at me and she said, yeah, wow. Wow. And then we moved merrily on, probably because there were desserts being served.

And any time pie is involved, it always takes over from stupid work conversations at dinner. But I thought about that, and I thought, you know, we should probably talk about that, at least in the safety moment part. art.

Because one of the things you learn, and you guys know this, this isn't a mystery, is that what looks like it's going to be a problem is really more of a symptom of trouble deeper inside the whole organization or inside the team or inside the work group or inside the processes and practices.

And that as you get older, you just kind of learn really quickly that if they're saying the problem is trust, we can probably go back even one layer and find all sorts of foundational items that are missing that equate into better, bigger, nicer. More trusting environments in which to work. That lesson is an important lesson. You know it already, so we're sort of practicing.

But I do think it makes a huge difference to realize that solving Solving the problem you see may not solve the problem you have. That's the safety moment for today. It's a short and sweet one, but I do think it helps us get smarter. And isn't that what it's all about? Learn something new every single day. Have as much fun as you possibly can. Be good to each other. Be kind to each other. And for goodness sakes, you guys, be safe. Music.

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