We don't clap, we don't count, we don't punch the microphone. At least not intentionally. Punch the microphone. I don't know. How do you want to synchronize your audio? Ah, jeez. Punch the microphone. Yeah, think of it like...
All right, I'm ready. You got to think about the Punch the Monkey game they used to have back in the early days of the internet, right? But that, but with microphones. Anyway, never mind. All right. Okay. I'm ready. Just push the button. It's all good. Push the button, Max. I've already pushed the button. We got like 40 seconds worth of crap now. You want me to push the button again? Nope. We're keeping all of it. Okay. Welcome to Pragmatic.
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I'm good, John. How are you? Living the dream, mate. Living the dream. Living the dream. Having a great time. Yes. I want to kick this off with just a couple updates about things that have been happening since we last spoke. I was invited to be a guest on Friends with Bruce, and I actually finally caught up with Peter Nicolaitis, which was really cool. He seems like a very interesting, cool dude. Yeah, he's pretty cool. He's been a long-time fan of Pragmatic, and...
And, yeah, I also had a chance to catch up with Scott. And it was a good talk, even though my internet died halfway through it, which was hilarious, but not hilarious. uh in any case um but that's fine but yeah that was a bit of fun um there's a link to it um in my as a guest thing on the website So have a look for that if you're interested. And if you're not listening to Friends with Bruce, you probably should. It's pretty fun. But anyway.
Let's see, what else? Work is work, not much to really talk about on that front, at least not at this point. We'll see what happens in coming weeks and months and maybe more to talk about, but for the moment... Changes in the winds. But that's about all I can say at this point. Whiskey Whiskey's going along pretty well. Yeah? Yeah. And the YouTube channel, the Engineering Network YouTube channel.
At the time of recording this right now, it's sitting at just over 900, so we've got 911 subscribers.
If you wind it back to... You're growing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The last 100 took six or seven weeks. So... that rate of growth is accelerating which is something that i've learned about youtube is that it's like it snowballs so once you yep yeah so yeah so anyway i started out when i started making whiskey whiskey because it's predominantly viewed, listened to, whatever, on YouTube, even though it's fully available as its own separate RSS feed for a video.
player, which interestingly is exactly how Scott Wilson watches it. He refuses to watch it through YouTube, which is fine. That's why I've got the separate feed. And the feed gets an average of about 30 to 40 downloads an episode. So there's plenty of people that actually do watch that without going on YouTube. So yeah, I'm glad I'm doing that. It gives people the option.
podcast player they're using to do it with? You can use Apple Podcasts. I think it works with it. Oh, they support video? I think so. Yeah, I'm pretty sure. I just know Evercast doesn't. No, Evercast does not. But there's also an audio-only feed if you want to just listen and not watch, because you don't have to watch. It's just nicer, but anyway. Yeah, but then you miss out on the joy of Chiji. Well, yeah, depending on who you ask, it's a joy, but yes. Anyhow.
Like I say, it's all relative. But anyhow, yeah, so I started out when I started making Whiskey Whiskey. That was back in September, August. I actually started recording in... preparing and everything back in late august last year so it's almost been a year not quite
but the channel has nearly doubled in size since then. So it's getting a decent amount of traction. Having said that, I also pick up other people following the Engineering Network on YouTube through Causality because I still get lots of views. for certain causality episodes. So in any case, I pre-recorded a heck of a lot of episodes. uh so on my christmas holidays which is now a fading memory it was like
four and a half months ago. Yeah. So I recorded, I pre-recorded, like I sampled all these whiskeys because I was on holidays, right? So why the hell not? So I tried them all and I got little sample bottles. I didn't buy bottles of these things because I'm not made of money. And so that way I tried them all, sampled them, recorded them, and they just sat on my, you know, solid-state drive waiting.
for John to get around to doing the video editing, and that's what I thought it might be fun to do a bit of a topic about. for this episode, which is The fact that video compared to audio, anyhow, video is harder in a lot of different ways. It raises the bar a little. It raises the bar a little. Yeah, now I dabbled, I did Pragmatic Electric, and I've done video every now and then, but I'd never done anything as hardcore as Whiskey Whiskey before, in terms of how much time and effort.
it takes to do video and not just a little bit of video a lot of video and anyway so So that's one of the things I want to talk about. And I know that you've done a little bit with video as well. I mean, can you just quickly talk about what stuff you've done with your video adventures, I guess? Nothing anywhere near as extensive as what you have. I just dabbled with using I can't even remember the name now. LumaFusion on the iPad and made some TikToks. Food porn.
Which was a lot of fun, but also a pretty fair amount of time. And for me, it wasn't even so much. I mean, the editing took time, but also like... the recording. really raised the bar on the cooking and it prompted a lot of
let's just say late dinners that certain people in the household were a little displeased about the time we actually finally got to sit down to eat. Understandably so. So one of the things that, so I watched some of your, you know, in air quotes food porn or whatever you want to call it um videos uh and i i loved them i thought that was pretty cool but i mean in the end yeah i also thought to myself how did he do that and how did he like actually because
wouldn't that be going cold by this point or like, you know, keeping things warm? And I'm like, it's been a long time since I looked at these videos, to be fair. Yeah. So it's like, So did you find that the process of cooking You had to modify it in order to actually do video of it. Yeah. So that's the thing that I'm learning. Had to kind of stack the deck a little bit, like do all of the cold prep footage, you know, first, you know, like the chopping and cutting and stuff like that.
I did a lot of pre-measuring of ingredients. You'll notice I use a lot of little stainless steel. I don't know if I'm going to say this word right or not, so I'll probably embarrass myself. Ramekins. Ramekins. How do you say that? Ramekins. Yeah. I know exactly what you mean, though. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I pre-measure a lot of that stuff out before I ever even started recording, you know, so that when it came time to add it, I'd just have it in the ramekin ready to go.
just like dump it in and then I would just use the title feature of LumaFusion to like say what it was I was dumping in as I edited the video together and stuff. Cool. Now I... Because one of the things that I also... have realized is that certain kinds of video that you do, like the cooking one, and also I found with Pragmatic Electric, certainly like when I did the Model S review, Model S versus Model 3.
There was a significant amount of pre-planning that needed to be done. There was a lot more. Yes. There was a lot more, I guess they called B-roll. There was a lot of that. And if you didn't do it well, it made it very hard to pull together something. It was a cohesive kind of video that... was basically any good, was watchable or not. Yeah. And, yeah, so...
One of the things that I also find interesting with Whiskey Whiskey is that when I'm trying a whiskey, I generally try not to have it beforehand, so I don't pre-engineer or pre-write my tasting notes. So because of that, the reactions that you see from me trying these whiskeys on the show are as genuine as I can make them. Like it's actually me. Yeah. But there's a flip side to that because sometimes I'll...
when you're nosing it initially. And it's like, well, I can't quite... tell what that is I think it's like it's caramel maybe it's a vanilla actually no it's more like a banana and it's like I will sit there for a good 15-20 seconds sometimes trying to figure out what the hell it is And all that needs to be stripped out of the episode because someone wants to watch this.
It's like they don't want to sit there and watch me thinking and trying to figure out what the hell a flavor is. It's like they've got better things to do with their time than they'll watch me going. You know what I mean? So, like, 20 seconds, a dead time, right?
just yeah what i don't know that this fits your your medium and your show but what i've seen like a lot of people would do on the tiktok is like they would cut most of the dead space out of that and maybe just have like a rapid cut montage of them on caramel vanilla I don't smoke. You know, so you just leave the guesses and you just kind of rapidly shoot through them in kind of like a humorous, comical way. Oh, totally. What I do is I'll do a combination of hard cut.
between those bits to chop it down and other times I'll just take an end-to-end cut of the section I want to snip out. And I'll just do it at 8x or 10x speed. Yeah. So I think it looks kind of hilarious, which is what I'm going for. Right. But the reality is that I don't want to subject people to that. But the reason I bring it up, though, is because that's one of the other things I find with video is that scripting it and pre-planning it can only accelerate it so much.
There are parts where if it needs to be genuine, it needs to be genuine, and you just can't do anything. You have to just record it and accept the reality. You have to go back and edit it, and that editing is going to be a lot more time-consuming than a podcast. That's just audio. So, having said all of that, I think we should probably start at just like the equipments. And, okay.
Because I originally made some... You got a lot of gear here in this list. I do, because I've tried a lot of things, and I realized also in the notes I neglected my first attempts at this. So... Alright, so let's wind the clock back to the very beginning of when I started to do video work. I'm recording right now in my famous, I guess you could call it, you know...
I was going to say hand-built. If I use power tools, does that still count as being hand-built? I guess. It does. It does. Why, thank you. Then in that case, hand-built by me, my podcasting booth. AKA the TARDIS, AKA the coffin that my wife sometimes threatens to seal. Yeah. So, I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. That's not actually what happens. Sort of. No, it's not really what happens. Sort of. I'm just joking. Just joking.
And so is she. Anyhow, moving on. My wife would threaten to seal me in. Um, she... It wasn't my wife. Actually, it was my oldest son actually said, you know, if it's soundproof, are you going to hear if I lock the door from the outside? And how are you going to get out? And I'm like, can you please open up? That's not good.
If I remember correctly, this thing is framed and drywalled, so you could always do the emergency fireman exit and bust through the drywall like the Kool-Aid man. I could. Yes, I could. But I'm not doing that because there's lots of cross struts and supports, so I don't even know how well I'd fit through the gaps. But in any case, let's not get too bogged down in that. The point is that I started my video recording in this sound booth. And...
I wanted to decouple the environment from inside the house, which is always noisy. I've got four kids, my wife, two cats. and there's always something happening, always. There's always noises in the house, unless I'm recording at stupid o'clock, at which point then I'm interfering with them.
And we went through this. Then you're the noise. Yeah, exactly. Then I'm the one that's making the noise and interfering with other people sleeping. It's not fair to anybody. So that's why the sound booth is fantastic. But on the downside, what I found very quickly is I used my Nikon Z30 and I used an ultra-wide lens on it.
In order to capture everything in a sound booth now initially I didn't have that ultra wide lens I had to actually get an ultra wide lens that would allow me to take actual video of me that wasn't just my face. because the sound booth is not huge. And so the first few episodes of Whiskey Whiskey were recorded.
in the sound booth with just, you know, because it's painted black. Yeah. You know, because the Rolling Stones told me that's what I should do, and that's what I did. Of course. Yeah, I mean, I had to, you know, you've got to paint it black, so that's what I did. Such a great song. I know, it was really good, isn't it? Anyway. I'm sidetracking myself. I haven't even get to the point yet. And then someone who I know, Vic, suggested...
Some D-bag immediately said, man, I know you love your booth, but you got to get out of that thing. Yeah. And... And said individual suggested that maybe I should think about doing a green screen and see if that could make it a bit more interesting. So I bought myself a green screen. And then I recorded several episodes with the green screen in here and attempted... to make it look like I had a rack of whiskey behind me on some nice shelves and a window and everything.
Now, I was new to chroma keying and I was new to green screens, but I was aware that the problem with green screens is You can't wear anything that has a color even similar to the green that you're using as your chroma key. Otherwise, it will subtract that from the video as well. Now, that was fine. for me and for what I was wearing. But what was not fine was when I was showing a whiskey bottle that was a green bottle. Mm-hmm.
So that really didn't work very well. So when I did a bottle of Glenfiddich and when I did a bottle of Brook Ladi, the classic Ladi, I just couldn't get the chroma key to set just right. I couldn't get it right. It looked... really bad yeah and so after about seven or eight episodes i gave up on all of that i had my camera for other purposes that's not like i bought it specifically and only for video recording i didn't
But I then shifted that into the house, into my study. And that is where... I forget where it was, episode 10 or whatever else beforehand that I then recorded from the study. Yeah, and that then created a new set of problems. So what I started out with is I used the same camera, and the problem I had with that camera was
I had it tethered. I had it on battery. I had it set up in different ways. I tried the Z6 II and the Z30. And the problem with these Nikon cameras is that they all... have a thermal limit and they reach this thermal limit ridiculously quickly. so they can't record for more than about 20 or 30 minutes and then they just shut off because I get too hot. And I'm like, well, interesting. That's ridiculous.
so I was yeah first time I realized this I didn't in fact realize this and I had gotten into the next episode I was about to ask how much footage did you miss yeah enough that it was annoying and so I very rapidly changed my opinion and switched to using my iPhone. And the iPhone 15 Pro Max is now what I use. That's my primary personal phone. um for my primary recording and i recorded in 4k 30 frames a second
And honestly, when you plug that thing in, it starts at 100%. And when you're done recording, it's just how much space you've got on there. So I make sure I've got enough space on there. I can record for three hours straight. And it does not overheat. It does not shut down. And it takes fantastic video. They really are fantastic cameras, man. They really are. It's incredible. It really is, Vic. It blows my mind the technology that we hold in our hands these days sometimes.
So, yeah, so that was the camera journey. And partway along, I also thought, you know, it'd be good to mix it up. See, some people will do the whole zoom and crop. So that if you're trying to make a point or you're trying to break up the video because just staring at John talking at the camera for 10 minutes straight is a bit tiring.
So, you know, there's all sorts of different ways of doing it. So I tried the off-center, off-axis, second camera angle. And to do this, I introduced, I borrowed my wife's iPhone 16. as a secondary recording thing when she wasn't using it. So, or one of my kids, it really doesn't matter because, in fact, anything from like an iPhone 12 or 13, I think, up will do 4K 30. That's all I need. Yeah. So... So yeah and then I got a new problem.
which is starting and stopping them both. Yeah. And I initially tried using the built-in camera app because, of course, why wouldn't you? And then I remember that Blackmagic had in fact released their own app, Blackmagic Cam. Mm-hmm. And that's when I got to playing with that. And Black Badger Cam, you can install it on iPads and iPhones, regrettably not on Mac OS, even if it is Apple Silicon, which kind of sucks, but that's okay. Anyway. That's a bummer. Yeah, it is. That's a bummer.
So what I've done is you install it on the iPhone 15 and 16 and you set them all up the way you want them, point them at you. and then you install it on my iPad Air. So I have my iPad Air, and I use that almost exclusively for editing in Ferrite for audio for podcasts. Yeah, but I now use it to synchronize my cameras because you can say, set up the iPhone 15 and 16 as you give them a name and you set them up as video sources.
and you can synchronize their start time. Everything's connected on Wi-Fi, and it all just works. It really literally just works. So you just get one button to start? Correct. Yeah, and you can swipe left and right on the screen to flick between the two cameras. You can do multi-cam view, and then you can change your focal point on each of them, and it does software.
like bokeh kind of background blur. That's cool. But it actually looks really good. It does. So I solved that part of the problem. So I now had two viewing angles. and I had the iPad Air for seeing how I was going. But then I had a problem with my audio. so i had invested in if you go back to before i started doing whiskey whiskey i actually invested in a set of Yeah, so I'd invested in a set of Rode Wireless Go 2s. Have you come across these? No.
So Rode make all sorts of really great audio stuff. They are an Australian company. But the point is that these particular ones, the wireless go-tos, They're probably about... inch and a half square and they have their own little clip. that you can clip onto your clothing and they've got a mic built into them. But if you don't want to do that, you can plug in a condenser microphone like a lapel mic or a small shotgun condenser. and you connect them just with a TRRS.
3.5 mil or 2.5 mil, I forget which. You can connect that up. And it'll also pipe that through. But it's wireless. So these things are battery powered. You get two of them. Yeah. So they're designed for two persons. So an interviewer, like a host and a guest. So the idea is I give you one, you clip that on, I clip one onto my shirt.
And they then wirelessly transmit back to a receiver. And that receiver will then, you can choose to merge your audio. You can have the left or the right. And so what I did is I used that. and initially I started out just with one microphone and one shotgun mic. So I also got a kit that had... I originally got this actually as part of a kit for the Z30. So I took it originally to take video of my son bowling and cricket. So the idea is it's a very small video mic, I think it's the VideoMic Pro.
And it's only about, you know, I don't know, 10 centimetres, four inches long. So it's not like one of those really stupidly long shotgun microphones. it cuts down a lot of the side noise and it really does drag in
decent voice from a distance. I mean, it's just better than the, yeah, it's much better than the built-in mic in an iPhone, much better than a built-in microphone in my Z30 or my Z6 II. And I originally got it, to record audio um as i was you know the audio when he was bowling and cricket right so because I was just not able to hear anything or very little. So I was taking video on my DSLRs and the microphone on was horrible.
So I took that microphone and I mounted it just above where my iPhone was that was facing towards me. But that was still a good, you know, maybe foot and a half, 50 centimetres away from my mouth. And it was better. But it wasn't as good as this, the one I'm talking on right now. My beloved EVRE20. It's a beautiful microphone. I absolutely love this thing. It perfectly matches my voice.
People that hear me on the show or Causality, when they hear me in real life, they say, I sound exactly, in real life, I sound exactly like I do on this show. That's cool. And it's because this microphone is the perfect one for me. It just fits my voice. But this little shotgun microphone, when it was that far away, really didn't. Bummer. And so I was doing all sorts of post-processing, trying to make it better.
yeah so i tried a few episodes with it clipped on the rode wireless go 2 clipped onto me i tried a few with the lapel microphone and i didn't like the sound of the audio So now I'm experimenting. I'm probably about 20 episodes in at this point, so this is going back to late last year. Yeah. And I started experimenting with trying to get the shotgun mic just as close as possible to my mouth. and just out of frame of both camera angles.
And that was a heck of a chore. I've ended up now my current solution, which I think works really well. is I've got one of those selfie sticks that I bought years ago just because. And I've got a couple of GoPro-like mounts that I can use to attach. Because the actual video mic has a...
one of those square slot sort of connectors, like a cold shoe for a camera. That's what it was designed to do. And I've got a few of those that I can adapt to go onto the top of a GoPro mount, which will then go onto the selfie stick. So I've rigged this up and it's attached to one of the mounting brackets behind one of my computer monitors in the study. And I've got it at just the right length and height that it is now only maybe six, seven inches away from my mouth.
and pointed directly at it, and it sounds fantastic. I basically have to do barely any noise reduction anymore, barely any amplification. It's really, really good. So, yes, except there was one other problem. Actually, there's a few more problems, but the next thing I did is, and I only did this in the last, probably 20 episodes, 15 episodes that I've recorded, and I haven't finished editing the current batch that I recorded, I don't know, three or four weeks ago now.
But I wanted to have a second video mic, so I actually went and bought a second one. Because the problem is that when I'm reviewing the whiskey, I will lean in to have a look at it. um up and close to the camera to see the color looking for the legs or tears whatever you want to call them running down the side of the glass but when i do that my beautifully positioned microphone which is correct for my standard seating position
it now won't hear me. So I needed another microphone that was up closer and the quality of the other microphones was terrible. So I figured... Same mic. I've got two channels left and right so I used one on the left for my normal seating position, one on the right for the in-close position. And now I've fixed all of my audio. And there are no cameras clipped on me, no lapel mics, none of it. It is all absolutely...
just the way I would like it. So it's good, clean, crisp audio, and it's not in frame. I don't have to edit it. Excellent. Yes. Winning. All right. So far, so good. Alright, now, so far, most of this stuff has been pretty straightforward and, you know, I would hope obvious enough and I had other reasons to get it. The only thing I've bought so far that I've talked about anyway, specifically for this.
was the second one of those video mics for the shotguns. But very early on, I also invested in an Elgato prompter. actually got a whole bunch of Elgato stuff. And the reason is that like causality is heavily scripted.
And what I wanted to do originally was I wanted to... like read it from a script rather than just scrolling through a PDF, which is what I've done, is I'll take the raw notes for an episode of causality and I'll print them into a PDF and then I'll just simply scroll through the PDF. It makes practically no noise when I do the two-finger scrolling up and down on the trackpad, but it still does make a noise.
Whereas I figured a prompt up, that would mean that It would be a lot easier for video, when I started doing video for Causality or for Whiskey Whiskey or Pragmatic Electric, whatever. And so I invested in a prompter, and I started out using it on the Z30 and the Z62 on the DSLR, the DSLR adapter, and now... Then I switched over to using it with the iPhone 15. So I just got a smartphone mount and I rigged it up so that it would work with the prompter.
And it works really, really well. And it even has a microphone feature so you can use this microphone and it listens to what you're saying and the speed you're saying and it automatically scrolls for you. Oh, that's brilliant. I know, right. It usually works. And this is the problem that I had. Is it the usually part? Usually. Usually.
So you can set up a software so that it just scrolls at a certain pace, but the problem is that I have quite a variable... presentation style so I'll start I'll talk quickly about certain points and I'll slow down for others that I want to
to sink in, you know? And just the way I talk naturally is highly fluid. And it's just, to me, it's just, that's just the way I talk. So having a fixed speed never works because, at one paragraph or another it'll be too slow and I'll be sitting there with my arms folded waiting for the prompter to catch up and other times I'll be like I have to pause the prompter because it's gone too quick
Or rather, I've been speaking too slowly, right? Even if it weren't for that, that's the biggest culprit for people coming out, sounding robotic, right? Oh, yeah, exactly. If you're forced to speak at the speed of the prompter, yeah, you do sound more robotic, yeah. so with with whiskey whiskey it's a balance you know like Four-fifths of the show is fully scripted and read from a script, but there are parts where I write absolutely nothing. Like when I'm tasting it, I have no notes.
at all it's simply right like nose mouthful palate finish you know and then writing and all that stuff is blank and so i i do that So for the longest time, I just used the prompter and I kind of used the experimental mic, microphone, you know, variable feedback speed thingy. But I wasn't happy with it. It just wasn't working that great. And so...
I decided to invest just recently in the last probably six weeks now in a Stream Deck Paddle and a Stream Deck Mini. Have you come across either of these? I have not. Okay. A lot of the stuff in Elgato. I'm looking at the stream deck now. That looks pretty neat. So I didn't get the full size one. I got the mini. It's only got six buttons on it. Yeah. Goodbye.
What's great about the Stream Deck is that the buttons are all completely dynamic. They're all software programmable. So you can put whatever icon you want. You can link to whatever function you want. And there's a whole bunch of these modules that you can install based on the software application in question. So obviously it works out of the box without installing any modules with all of Elgato's other stuff. which makes sense, and so therefore it works out of the box with the prompter.
So I very quickly learned by trial and error, because it's not obvious, how to set up the stream deck to very quickly scrub back and forth and up and down and to slow it down and to speed it up. So I've got a page set up on the Stream Deck Mini for when I'm recording now. Not right now, but when I'm recording an episode of Whiskey at Whiskey, for example, or anything using the prompter. Right. And it makes it a heck of a lot easier. So you can jump back a paragraph, jump forward.
different shortcut. Now, the Stream Deck Mini turns out that's actually really helpful for a whole bunch of other things, and I've actually been using it for work because I've got one set up for Microsoft Teams. So now I've got shortcut buttons for muting. Now, I had previously done this through keyboard shortcuts using function key 15, 16, 17, 18, 19. because I've got the extended Apple wireless keyboard. Yeah. Every now and then it doesn't work. So in this particular case,
It works every freaking time, which is good because when someone's talking to you and you've got the mute and you're hitting the unmute and it doesn't unmute and you're just like, oh, great, where's the mouse? Mouse is disconnected. Got to drag the mouse over, find the damn window. make sure it's active, and then click the unmute button, by which time five or six seconds has passed, and I'm like, John, you're on mute. I'm like, I know I'm on mute, all right?
This is my challenge, is to unmute myself. I'm aware. Thank you. Right, now the Stream Deck pedal is exactly what it sounds like. It's a pedal that goes under your desk, and it's a foot pedal. So there are three foot switches on it, one main, one in the center, one left, and one right. and I've got them configured to start and stop the prompter and to skip forward or back a chapter.
so nice the only downside of the pedal is it is very loud it does come with different springs and different spring tensions to make it easier to press, which I will start to experiment with in future. But for the moment, It is a little bit too loud, but it does allow me to completely... I'm imagining it's like a super loud mouse click. Yeah, it's kind of like that. Yeah, it's like a thunk. Yeah. It's not really ideal, but... A thunk? Yeah, a bit of a thunk.
But it's not, it's fine. I just need to play with it some more and I just, I haven't really just had the time. So I just like, you know. Yeah. I was aware it made noise, but it meant that I could do it without touching keyboards or anything like that because previously what I did is I actually got the keyboard and I got a bit of Blu-Tack. You know what Bluetech is, right? Mm-hmm. Yeah. So I got a bit of Bluetech, and I got an old credit card.
And I stuck that to one of the function keys so that my toe and my foot could find it. And I was tapping that to start and stop the prompter. It's the most ridiculous bloody hack. Nice. It's just ridiculous. It was ridiculous. so you set the keyboard on the floor and you're stomping on it correct that's exactly what I was freaking doing and it was just ridiculous But, you know, that's exactly what the Stream Deck pedal is able to do. It's super simple. And anyway, so...
So, so far, I now have everything to have great video, great audio. I've got a prompter for all of that that I can read off of and I'm maintaining eye contact and all that other great stuff. And... I hadn't even talked about the most important part of this, which is the computer I'm recording on is my Mac Studio.
So, and it's not just that. The Mac Studio is not just for, like, when I say recording it. I mean, technically, it's actually not used to record anything. It's actually just there for the prompter, for the note. and I do all my editing on it. So once I've done all of this, I have audio captured in every way possible. So the little Rode Wireless GOES, you can set them up to always record. So they absolutely record everything that you say onto them. They've got seven hours of memory on them.
So that's my backup in case the link fails. Now, the iPhone 15 Pro Max that's doing my primary recording, I've got that plugged into a USB-C hub, and that USB-C hub is connected into the Rode Wireless Go receiver. And Blackmagic Cam on the iPhone detects that as a valid audio source. So it records... Nice. Yeah, I know. It records the left and the right audio and embeds it into the video. So when you extract it from the iPhone...
all the audio is perfectly synchronized, which is fantastic. That's beautiful. It is beautiful. It's a thing of beauty. Now, I also record audio on the secondary camera angle, and that's important for synchronizing, which I'll get to in a minute. So all of that is then copied over USB-C onto the Mac Studio, onto my external NVMe solid-state drive, my two-terabyte editing drive, I call it.
It's actually not as fast as copying it onto the Mac Studio, but once again, put your hand up. Who did not get enough solid-state drive storage when they ordered their Mac? Yeah, that's me. Yeah, well, that's partly because... you're over for that they certainly do don't they yes so um yeah it's crazy it is it is so there's a reason that i only have one terabyte of storage but my god i tell you if i get another mac studio i'm going to go at least two
I'll go as high as my bank account will allow me because, yeah, the external drive, It's solid. It works. It's great. It's relatively fast. It's pretty decent. I just know because I've edited some short videos on the internal drive and it is that much quicker. It is not funny.
Are you connecting it with Thunderbolt? Yes. Yeah. So I'm getting decent speed out of it. It's just not as fast as what's internal, which is what you'd expect. As if you could just work on the internal drive. Yeah, correct. And I just don't have the space. Right. Which we'll get to that
All right, so... Because video would be big. Yeah, so it's probably a good point to talk about that, actually. And I don't have too much more to talk about on the video on the toys and gadgets and stuff. We're going to start talking about editing. So one of the other things is that I had to make a decision in the very early stages of when I started doing this, like going back to Pragmatic Electric, in fact.
And I just decided that, you know, 4K had to be the entry level because you can upload 4K to YouTube, but it's... Bye. When you watch it on a 4K television or a 4K monitor, it looks amazing. If you take... 1920 by 1080 or standard HD and do the same, the upscaling, it just looks terrible. It doesn't work. So I then had to think about 8K. And I was immediately stopped by the fact that I had no 8K camera. Um... And I'm like, that would be a barrier.
Yeah, that's a barrier number one. Barrier number two is the data rate on that. I was not in a position of being even able to edit 8K on my Mac Studio, because I've got an M1 Mac Studio, so it's not 8K capable out of the box. And then, of course, Apple with the insane Mac Pro, they had the additional graphics accelerator cards, the afterburners. That was how they handled 8K, by downscaling it using FPGAs.
to do a real-time rescaling to 6K to display on a 6K monitor, because it wasn't technically editing 8K, it was editing a proxy of the 8K. And it's like when you realize that, you're like, the amount of money you would have to spend to record an 8K is not worth it. Yeah. And at that point, then what are you going to do? Because I... Anyway, so I chose 4K, but even 4K is bad because it's the source of video. All right. So I then ran some experiments. Massive. It can be massive.
I ran some experiments and I tried the lossless ones briefly. That didn't last long because I just ran out of space too quick. I could record about 10 minutes of video in total and that was it. Yeah. And then I kept dialing it back and dialing it back until eventually I settled on a format for my editing and a format for my recording. So on my recording, I just stick with maximum data rate.
um on of h264 and the reason that i did this is i tried so okay in blackmagic cam it gives you the ability to tell to set a bit rate as well as the codec So the codecs I could have used were HEVC, or just H.265. Yeah. Apple ProRes came in four flavors. You've got your standard 4Res 422, which is your color, chroma, luminance, and all that stuff. hence the number 422, but you go with 422 Lite, 422 Proxy, and 422 High Quality. So what I learned is that if you select... Um...
like HEVC or H.265 or H.264, you can limit the bitrate. So I found that I got the best results between those two on H.264 at max bitrate. and you start throttling that bit right from 54 megabits per second down to 36, 27, and 19, you start to see a decent degradation in the quality of the video. And then once you go to the 422s, you don't get the choice. The bitrate is the bitrate. So what I ended up realising is that
The amount of improvement in the quality was not worth the reduced recording time and storage space. So I stuck with H.264 at maximum bitrate as the best compromise. So that's recording on the farm. And time is off. the editing, when you do create files in Final Cut Pro, you can also choose what rendering... So it'll do... it'll render intermediate files for you so that you place a text overlay or you do a transition or whatever. It'll render that for you, and you can choose the codec.
And I made a massive mistake in the first probably 30, 40 episodes. it defaulted to 422, not 422 Lite. And 422 is about five times the file size as 422 Lite. So some of my early episodes, of whiskey whiskey all of the render files are all included in the backup those early episodes um before i realized this you know they were five times the file size So I've since defaulted in editing for all renders to be done in 4.2.2 Lite, and it is just so much nicer in terms of size.
So that was a bit of a learning curve for me. So ultimately, the only other bit of kit that I just want to quickly talk about, I realized I didn't talk about it, is I did invest for, specifically I got this for Pragmatic Electric. And I also was going to do another video series, which I'm not precluding doing, but I won't talk too much about it. But anyway.
But I haven't done it. I did it. Originally, I was thinking about also doing more for Causality as well, which I'll get to later. But it's a DJI Osmo Mobile 6. and you mount that, you mount your iPhone in it, and you load the software, DJI and MIMO, and link the two, and it will actually track you. Like, you can put this...
On it comes a little tripod that you can extend. Yeah. I think I've seen these on TikTok. Yeah. And basically you make a little sort of like a V sign, kind of like a Vulcan greeting sign, I guess.
with your hand next to your face and it will detect that and start tracking your face so you walk around the room and and the phone will follow you through the room like it turns and follows you it is the coolest thing And you can also use it, of course, as you're holding it to do smooth, like, gimbling and so on. Yeah. No, I made a lot of use. That would be so cool if I were still doing the food stuff. Oh, it was incredible. It could follow you around the kitchen while you're moving around.
So when I had it, in that Pragmatic Electric video, I did the recording of the Model S. I had that tracking me in multiple scenarios where I walked up to the car, I was walking around the car and it's like I was all by myself. I didn't need a cameraman or camera person, camera operator. I didn't need them because I could do it all myself. It does feel weird though, but you get over it.
So anyway, that was the only other bit of kit I want to talk about. So I'm just getting back to the video editing piece. So... You had said you used LumaFusion. Did you ever use Final Cut at all? I have Final Cut, and I started loading a whole bunch of footage into it. I was going to do a... video game montage for my PS5. And then for some reason or another, I can't remember what, I got distracted by another sparkly and I just never went back to it. Fair enough. So...
I've used a bunch of different ones over the years. I dabbled with Premiere, with Adobe Premiere. I've also dabbled with the original iMovie quite a bit, actually. and also LumaFusion and I ended up settling with Final Cut Pro simply because I had bought a copy of it. Actually, there's another one too, the Blackmagic one. which I'm just blanking on the name of, but in any case,
But, yeah, so I settled on FireCucks. I already had a license for it at that point through the education sort of bundling thing and everything. And that sort of put me in a position where I'm like, well, I may as well use it. I've got it. and it has its pros and its cons. But I've worked out a system that I use now for Whiskey Whiskey in terms of how I edit the episodes.
There are several steps. The first step I call it the rough edit where I'll take the footage from start to finish and I synchronize the camera angle, so it's multi-cam synchronization, and you can do that using the audio because you've got audio from your second angle iPhone plus you've got the left and right audio now.
from your primary angle. Final Cut matches those up for you automatically, doesn't it? It does. You've got to tell it to do that, but it'll do it for you. That's nice. And you get a compound clip, which you can then drag onto the timeline and mess with it. You can then cut between the two angles and you can pick which audio you want to use and you can change between your audio sources.
uh during your edit nice so all of yeah it's pretty good so that rough edit i do from the primary camera angle so i merge them all together put it on the timeline and i just cut out all the stuff that i don't want accelerate the parts i want put in basic titles and that's the rough edit to start to finish. That takes the most amount of time, at least only just.
Now, once I've gone and done that, I'll record like 7, 8, 9, 10 episodes in one block, like a three-hour block. I'll do like 10 episodes in a block. And at the end of it all... I only have like 5 or 10 mils top. and a glass. At the end of the three hours, I'm not actually drunk, contrary to what some people have said. This is good. Yeah. This is good. Because reviewing a whiskey when you're intoxicated is a futile exercise, right? If anyone knows how whiskey tastings work,
This is really good stuff. I know, right? Suddenly everything tastes great. Yeah, sure it does. No, it doesn't. Hence the expression, always start the night with your best whiskey. And finish the knock with the cheap ones. Bots, having said that. Because there comes a point when it just doesn't matter. Exactly.
Yeah, so anyway, my point is that at the end of that three-hour block, I'll have, you know, like somewhere between two and a half hours, two, two and a half hours roughly of video to edit. in 10, 12 episodes, however many I've done. So I'll go through and do the rough edit of all of those episodes, and then I'll go to the next stage, which I call the final detailing.
And so if I say in an episode, oh, and this distillery is run by this guy called Eddie Brock, well, I'll go and find a photo of Eddie Brock and I'll go and... you know put that in the episode right uh before i do any of the recording at all i have a separate recording that i do on a turntable that i got ages ago It's a little white turntable you plug into the USB and it just turns around in a circle. That's all you just put stuff on and just rotate.
So I put the bottle or whatever it is on that with a white background and I just record it. Yeah, B-roll. So then part of the final detailing is I'll now import that video. I'll wipe out the background using one of those magnetic shape-detecting keys in Final Cut. And basically, it will then track... forwards and backwards, so you basically can delete the background and reinsert a background behind it.
So all that stuff, I'll list out the name of it. I'll say what the ABV is and all that. So all those final bits of text, I'll make sure that's all lined up. the cost and the quality and the matrix for the final rating and all that. I'll put all that in and I'll put in the ending and slide transition with the thanks for the patrons and all that stuff. At that point, the full length episode has been fully edited, exported, and ready to go. But I'm not done.
No. Something I started doing after I'd been into it. You gotta have the YouTube shorts. Yes. So one of the things I started doing is I looked at... I did a whole bunch of shorts initially for the first 10, 15 episodes. And the shorts were not actually what I do now. What they were were... like funny snippets out of the episodes and you can create a short based on an episode that is live you cannot
I can't create a short of an episode that's going to be published in the future. But what I can do is I can edit something down to a smaller duration and upload it. and YouTube will identify it as a short, and it shows up in the Shorts feed. So I hadn't done the second. I'd just done the first bit, the first kind.
And I was getting a lot of views and a lot of interaction coming from those shorts. So it got me thinking, what if I took a 10, 15-minute episode of Whiskey Whiskey and somehow managed to cut it down to 60 seconds? So I then decided that I would do that for every episode that I did. So I now have a third stage of editing, which is the re-edit down to 60 seconds.
Now, there really isn't much time when you've got 60 seconds. No. So I had to get very creative and very aggressive in my edits. There's a whole bunch of detail that's obviously been cut out and removed. but the goal is to fit it in at or less than 60 seconds. Now, I don't just upload these to YouTube. What I also do is I upload them to Instagram, and I also upload them to TikTok.
So, at this point... Oh, you're on the TikTok now? Yeah. Oh, yeah. I'll have to go give you a follow-up. Yeah, 100%, mate. So, the... The new accounts I set up with Whiskey Whiskey in 60. And the tagline is, it's Whiskey Whiskey, but for those with short attention spans. Sorry. I'm sure that that will annoy people, but that's okay. The point is that I've been getting some interesting... It is what it is. I've been getting some interesting interaction.
from the Instagram ones. I don't get very much from TikTok. But my oldest son told me that's because they deprioritize any content that has. like gambling, like smoking or alcohol, any of those sorts of things, they will deprioritize it. But if you want to stand there and dance like an idiot... I think more than deprioritize it, I think that it won't even show up in anybody's For You page at all. Probably.
The only way anybody sees it is if they come to your page to look. Exactly. Yeah, that's my understanding. Otherwise, he explained it to me. But look, that's fine. It gets a lot. on YouTube and on YouTube a lot of people have started following me just because of the shorts just because of the 60 second versions
So I actually get a decent amount of people coming in through that as well. So I think it is worth the time, but it is more time. So all of this is to say a single episode of Whiskey Whiskey in terms of editing all those three stages And that doesn't include things like creating the title slide, uploading it, creating the episode files and all that for the RSS feeds and adding it to all the places and all that stuff.
That all takes time as well, but just the video editing alone for a 10- or 15-minute episode is probably somewhere between, I don't know, maybe two hours to three hours worth of work per episode. and it turns into a hell of a grind.
yeah and yeah it's a lot of work it is and it's the sort of thing that i've i've really i've taken a break from it because i i really did overdose i think like and I don't mean on the whiskey I mean on the damn video editing because the video editing is so much extra work right And I love the result. I think the result is great. It's exactly what I wanted to make. It's a satisfying and it feels very good creatively, but it's a very time-intensive process. Exactly.
So, but yeah, so I've now, so I've already edited and uploaded ready to go up to episode 100. So we're now sitting on episode 67 at time of recording this episode now. And I do one episode release on average twice a week. So I'll do one on the middle of the week and one on the weekend. There have been some that I released in a batch on sequential day.
So I did three in a row, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, of Lark. So the Lark distillery. I had three sample bottles from Lark. So I did those three days in a row. Like a little series. Yes, like a series. I did... I did Johnny Walker as a series as well. I did something like, I think I tried seven Johnny Walkers and I had two special episodes where I did comparisons. And so that was a week. But generally it's two a week.
And with that projected out, in terms of fully edited, fully released versions ready to go, I'm good till the middle of July. Nice. We're now in the middle of May, so that's two and a bit months of headroom before I hit the wall. Now, when I was on Easter holidays, my son and I went for a drive down to Byron Bay because he needed hours to get his driving, you know, to get enough. You've got to get 100 hours before you can even apply for a driving test.
So in order to get the hours up, he had to do some more driving. So I said, hey, why don't we go to Byron Bay? And when we were down there, I'm not seeing things like the lighthouses and picking up some... some cheap reject biscuits from the Byron Bay Cookie Factory because that's where they come from. Yeah. And I know you don't know what they are, but they're kind of, yeah, in Australia, they're sort of famous. That's cool. But yeah, Byron Bay Cookie Company. They make nice cookies.
But never mind that. I just want to pay for the cheap seconds that were all broken and smashed up because Biggie's still taste good. The cookies taste good. Even if they are crumbled, it's fine. I approve. Yes, 100%. And it's a hell of a lot cheaper that way than $5 a cookie, I'm telling you. But anyway. You can get real deals that way. Most of my cast iron is what they call seconds. They've got slight minor defects. Yeah, totally, mate. You can buy them for like half price. Absolutely.
Yeah, so anyway, so after that, I also realized that there was a distillery, because there's not many distilleries in Australia, certainly not compared to the United States, and even certainly definitely not like Scotland. So the Cape Byron Distillery had a, they have a cellar door. So I went to the cellar door and I got six samples and brought them home. So during my Easter holidays,
I reviewed them all and I'm just going through the edits now and I am feeling really burned out. Yeah. Because I said to myself, I wasn't going to do any more. And then I went to Byron Bay, and I'm like, oh, bugger it. We'll drive past, and I'll grab some samples. And then the samples are just sitting there, and I'm like, they're looking at me. Review me. Review me. And I'm like, oh.
So I recorded them, and then they're sitting on my solid-state drive, and they're looking at me, and they're saying, edit me, edit me. And I'm like, oh, fuck. So I've reached the point where I have another... 12 episodes because I also did a couple of explainer episodes and I had another three samples. I got, it doesn't matter how, but it doesn't matter. So I did those, and I've got 12 that I've done the rough edits on. I've done final detail edits on seven of them. Mm-hmm.
Haven't done any 60 second edits, but I can tell you what the thought of it is now really starting to annoy me because I think I'm burned out on the video. So once I'm through this lot of samples, I've said to my promise myself, I'm not going to get any more samples for three months because I will have a three and a half month
bank ahead of time I will not need to release an episode until like if I and I can have a break there's no reason why I can't have three or four weeks where I don't have an episode right so you know I can have a break as long as I want but if I want to keep up this pace which I don't, then I don't have to record anything until August. Nice. Maybe even September. Yeah.
So it's a nice position to be in, but at the same time... It definitely sounds like a break is in order, especially since you've got such a comfortable cushion. Yeah, exactly right. So, yeah, anyway, and let's be clear, this is all self-inflicted. This is a passion project. It's something that's fun. And honestly, I'm really enjoying doing it because I'm learning a lot about my own palettes. I'm learning a lot about what I like or what I don't like.
I've realised that there's some amazing whiskies out there that I didn't even know existed. Because the problem is when you look at a bottle, they all look the same. Or maybe not all the same, but they look very similar. So how the hell do you tell? How can you tell what you like and what you don't unless you try it? And doing something like this is more fun, more lighthearted. You know, like causality is really serious. Yeah. And that's emotionally draining, you know, whereas this is fun.
So it's just the video editing that's not so much fun. That's my problem. So anyway, I use Pixelmator Pro to do my title and episode artwork. for each of the episodes which is what you see on the website that's my per episode artwork and the title slide on YouTube And I upload all of these to Patreon. Can I just take a moment to say thank you for your title slides on the YouTube?
where you resist the urge to do clickbait titles in the YouTube face. Well, you're welcome. I think Scott made a similar remark. Bottom line is I'm not doing that shit. I'm just not doing it. I refuse to do it. Good call. I want the content, whatever you want to call it, I want it to speak for itself. And those... horrible you know I just I can't stand it I just can't and I don't want to create something that I can't stand so no yeah
I don't really understand that. I guess people are just trying to cater to the algorithm and what's expected in the platform. I don't know. There's like... I spend most of my time these days on the YouTube watching like woodworking and stuff like that. And there's one guy I really love his content, but some of those title picks, man, they're so horrible. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. So now I'm not doing that, and I'm not artsy enough anyway.
In terms of upload destinations, this is where it gets even more annoying because I already told you we've got the 60-second ones. They go up to YouTube. They go to Instagram. They go to TikTok. The full-length versions go to YouTube as well and to Patreon, and I do a 720p downscale version that I put up on DigitalOcean, which is where I keep all my files.
So that is for the RSS feed. So the RSS feed gets 720p video. Everywhere else gets full 4K. Yeah. But that's simply because space is money. Yeah. And bandwidth is money. Yeah. So I'm not hosting on RSS feed. 4K for the sake of 4K. You know? No. Storage. No. Not worth it. My bandwidth don't alone would crush you.
Yeah, well, exactly. Especially when you consider, ideally, everybody that downloads it would watch it, but when it's in a podcatcher, a lot of people are set to auto-download and stuff, and they may never even get to it, so you're just paying for it for nothing. Exactly.
That is exactly right. Or worse than that, maybe they do watch it, but they have it download to like three different devices. That's also possible. I mean, yeah, that is true. So I don't know. I don't know. All I do know is that... For me, I do... I like doing the review. I like the finished product. But geez, that video editing in between, just like I said at the beginning, just video is that much harder than the audio in a podcast.
And if I wasn't enjoying making the content in the first place, I think I would have stopped already because simply the video editing would have killed me. This is why I only have four videos. Right. So, yeah, I mean, I've got a ridiculous number. It actually blows me away that I've got to do final edits, like I said, for the final detailing.
But when I'm done and I've done the 60-second ads, I'll have 112 episodes of Whiskey Whiskey that I will have created in one year, varying in length from the shortest one was seven minutes to the longest one, which was 23 minutes. That's a lot of video. It is a lot of video. And, I mean, like I said, it's a passion project, but... The passion for video editing was never really there, but whatever little passion there was is being beaten out of me by myself, really. Yeah.
You've got that nice, comfortable cushion, and I really think that a break is in order. Yeah, absolutely. So one of the other things is that one of the secondary goals of me doing the Whiskey Whiskey thing is, apart from being a bit of fun, is also to get an idea of what I like and what I don't. And I actually did, I've done a series, it hasn't gone live yet, that I called it Cheap Week.
And it was actually my wife's suggestion. She says to me, you know, you should probably do like cheap whiskeys and review them as opposed to the expensive ones that are generally going to be nicer. Yeah. Um, because her observation was that one of the episodes of, of it that blew up was actually the red label, Johnny Walker red. And, And my reaction to that at the end, I got so many people come back to me saying that was hilarious.
Because I just took one look at the glass and I'm like, I don't want to finish that. that better it was it was it was bad and i'm like But, I mean, Johnny Walker Red is one of the most popular whiskeys, Scotch whiskeys in the world. And it is because it is cheap, it's consistent, and it's a great mixer. You know, it's like it's one of the best entry-level mixers. It's up, you know. But the problem with it is when you drink it straight, it tastes terrible. It's just rubbish.
So anyway, so I took on my wife's challenge and I invested in the smallest possible bottles of the cheapest possible scotch that I could buy. Yeah. And I reviewed them in a week I called Cheap Week. And some of the reactions on that, they're all genuine. They're not faked. They're not like, I'm not playing it up. Some of them were so horrible. They were much worse than the Johnny Walker Red. If I thought the Johnny Walker Red was average, I found some that were zero.
I will never buy them for any reason whatsoever. They are that bad. You start slumming on the bottom shelf of the liquor store and you can find some real rot gut. It's funny. Yeah you're not wrong. So, I mean, but then again, that exercise, I did find a bottle that is regular price as $50 Australian. Mm-hmm.
which is around about probably $32 US at the moment because the exchange rate's not that great for the Australian dollar versus the US. But it fluctuates all the time, so that varies. But then, of course, we also have alcohol excise. to deal with that you don't in America. And I did a whole episode on that as well, too, because I had a lot of people saying, well, how come everything in Australia is so expensive, your dollar mustn't be worth anything?
Actually, it's not the value of the dollar that's the problem, it's the alcohol excise that the government charges. That's another story. They're cut. Everybody needs taxes. It's terrible. It is so bad. Anyway, it's like literally a dollar a liter, you know. So if you've got like 100% alcohol, they charge you a dollar for that. So if you've got whiskey that's 50% ABV or 100 proof, then you get charged 50 cents. just for that, just alcoholic sauce. That's pretty steep. Yeah, that plus GST plus
Anyway, it doesn't matter. Is there a VAT on top of that, too? Yeah, that is VAT. VAT equals... Yeah, VAT is goods and services tax in Australia, what we call that. But same thing. Yeah, yeah. So anyway, all right. Don't want to get sidetracked by that. My point is... What is my point? That I actually found a bottle of affordable whiskey. like cheap whiskey that actually was quite nice and drinkable straight. That's cool. By, yeah, by Loch Lomond, the Loch Lomond Reserve. And...
It was fine. It was great. So, I mean, the whole exercise for me has been to figure out which ones I like, which ones I don't, and which price brackets, and so on and so forth. And the best part is that I... simply can't drink that much. And that's a good thing. And that's a good thing.
So it means that what I've got lasts a long time, which means I'm in no hurry because I've got a list now of probably about a dozen, maybe even two dozen whiskeys that I wouldn't mind getting a bottle of at some point in the future. And I know I'm going to like them because now I've tried them. Yeah.
So I'm not shooting in the dark anymore. Now I know a good bet before I get it. So I don't have any... strong urge to try new whiskeys for a while so I've taken a break from Whiskey Club as well and I'm just like stepping back from it and yeah so once I get through these video edits
That's what kills me, the damn video editing. Mm-hmm. So, yeah, that's... Again, this is why I only had, like, four. Yeah, four. I can't remember. Not many. I thought it was more than four, but, yeah, you're right. It's certainly not 112. But then you're not crazy like me. I can only imagine. You're not crazy like me, right? Do you see the final cut screen in your sleep? Sometimes.
Actually, back in the early days before I had such a big buffer, I do remember waking up one morning thinking, I've got to get up and edit. And I'm like... What is wrong with this picture? Stop. Oh boy. But anyway. So yeah, that's all I had to talk about, to be honest. That's cool. Well, if you want to talk more about this, You can reach me on the Fediverse at chegi at engineer.space or the network at enginet at engineer.space.
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