Hi gorgeous beauties, welcome to another episode of the Startup Stories podcast. You, my dear, are one of many powerful everyday women of the world, so I hope that you really appreciate the
value and significance of who you are. If you think you're just like a nobody, well I'm just a nobody, but yet I'm so... um necessary to like the cogs in the wheels in the systems so just take a minute to really appreciate yourself maybe give yourself a hug and just be like yes woman yes you matter you're valuable you're worthy on top of and surrounding all of that and i am just ever so honored and pleased to serve you and bring you incredible guests and we're gonna
party hard with sasha Elizavsky today. Sasha and I are like new online friends, but our hearts and souls go way, way back. And we're going to have such a fun party conversation talking about her journey and lessons and life applications at present. And We're going to try and wrap it. I'm saying this to Sasha. We're going to try and wrap it around the top of the hour, love, because I've got to wake up my daughter. You've
got to go and be a badass. And I say that lovingly and jokingly, listeners, because Sasha and I did a workshop together and we were just like, we couldn't stop and we shouldn't have to. So watch out if we decide to do some sort of VIP thing. Exactly. Right? Exactly. But let me just do my proper introductions and welcome Sasha to the show. She's beautiful and ready to serve
and share. So you know the drill, you guys. It's the Startup Stories podcast where the ambitious everyday woman is heard, held, and served in life and business. Relatable stories to keep you sane, grounded and growing as you expand yourself and deliver your purpose to the world. And if you're watching on video, I'm kind of excited that I have this new background. Fun anecdotal story. My mom said my background was too distracting and I was like, resist. And then,
hey, why don't we try something else? So I'm trying out this background. I kind of love it. It looks good. And it's the same wallpaper that I actually have. So enough about all of that nonsense. Sasha will tell us what the acronyms mean, but she's a human resources professional. And she is now, I love this, this dropped to me this morning, Sasha, the entrepreneur for the employee. Yes. Entrepreneur for the woman employee. Right. For female employees in corporate
looking to. level up like we say we want the things we think we're ready and then when they come to us on a platter of silver or slightly tarnished or gold or whatever we're like I'm not sure right so that's why life coaches that's why career professionals like Sasha that's why too hold you accountable to yourself, to your dreams and to the resistance, hold you through the resistance of actually becoming that next version of yourself, that next transformation.
So Sasha has got this beautiful and steadfast career in human resources, HR and recruiting, a master's in HR development certification as an intuitive life coach. And like, I'm just covered in goosebumps already because I know and love Sasha's heart. But you picture these two different systems coming together in a holistic approach, right? To really hold you and to prepare all
of you, mind, body, spirit. for the raise for like the 15 to 50k salary jumps, career moves, but also capacity of self to step into that. So let's bring her on here because there's just so much to dive into. And I don't want to be the only one talking. So welcome, my darling. Thank you. Thank you for having me. Thank you for having me. That was a beautiful introduction.
And, you know, one of the things that I do want, how I want to distinguish myself is, you know, I'm not just like a career coach, like not just going to help you, you know, do your resume or get that raise. Like, you know, there's a lot that comes with that. And, you know, when they say when you teach a man a fish, right. So if
I teach you how to. see the power in yourself and I teach you how to set boundaries and I teach you how to um like in a very gutsy confident and you know we talked about the word manipulative but like in a very like cunning fox kind of way if I can teach you how to do that uh while growing in corporate um you won't need someone to do your resume to get put your resume together you won't need someone because all of that comes with it right yeah um it really really all starts
with confidence and how you um sell yourself um and how you make it like how you allow yourself to grow in corporate right because corporate is a soul -sucking place so but anyway thank you for having me not anyway like it's great because when we're seeking this growth It applies unilaterally to everything in life. So it's not like if you don't have a job and I, again, I'm going to really normalize and hold safety around
being an entrepreneur and an employee. But when you're seeking growth, all of what you just talked about, Sasha, is very transferable because we
are having to become. stronger increase our mental fitness our spiritual fitness to hold that space and that growth of self and what you just described is it transcends anything that could be captured on paper because it's your essence right and so it's like how did Mel Robbins become Mel Robbins part and parcel as a natural outcome of who she is matched with a willingness to take on more responsibility to take on more um what like what's another way of describing that like because it's
not all just responsibility but like um power um yeah and and let me just say let me let me just go back to because yeah the the the transition between employee and entrepreneur, right? Like, you know, I know most of your audience is, you know, entrepreneurs and my audience is employees,
but let me tell you something. I can tell you right now that the woman that had the hardest time negotiating their salaries in corporate will probably have the toughest time with their money mindset when they become entrepreneurs, because these are the ones that you have to convince them. You are worth that much. You know that, right? You can charge, you can ask for that. Right. Don't let anyone tell you what you're worth. You can sit there and say, this is what
I like. The worst thing that they can say is no. And then they move on and whatever. But the people that have the hardest time, I know because I was that person that had the hardest time with negotiating their salaries tend to be the people that have a hard time. you know, setting their prices, like holding to their prices. They're the ones that like struggle with, like, should I give a discount? Should I, they're the ones
that I struggle with that. So yeah, there is, there's a lot of transferable, a lot of like commonalities. Even though we, you know, we serve different, different audiences, the, the, the struggles can be very much the same. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You know, because we're looking to be, to achieve our potential. To see how far we can take ourselves at the end of the day, right? And that comes from within. It doesn't come from
an external circumstance. And then it comes again with that loving the word willingness to hold everything that comes with it. Because it is more in the sense of more responsibility, more money, more... accountability commitment like all these things right it's it's my favorite analogy lifting heavier sets of weights and and powering through that and then acclimatizing building that resilience to hold through it because it's not going to be without roller coasters
or other things happening. Sometimes things culminate all at the same time, like the awesome job offer, maybe an issue with a child, maybe a new relationship, maybe a transition in a relationship or, you know, like things will, the storm, and then you come through the other side into a new space. So we've already kind of sneak peeked into some of your story. that you worked in corporate and now that you're on the other side as an entrepreneur.
So just tell us a little bit more about you and your story, you know, your journey to get here and what that was like, what you grew through to land in this beautiful new place. Yeah, so I decided to be an entrepreneur at a very interesting time. It was around the time that I decided that
I wanted to be divorced. and yeah exactly it was around the time that I decided to be divorced but also it was around the time that I realized I was starting to get stronger as a person I I transparently I was a broken person with a lot of trauma um when I met my husband and so like as time went on I started to you know um realize that you know I had to take accountability for a lot of the things that I was bringing into my life so for example um I had I was one of
those that had like you know boyfriend after boyfriend one was worse than the last right and so by the time I got to my husband he was very different in a lot of ways but similar and others and I you know um my mom she was a narcissistic person so like I was very comfortable with certain things and so um by the time I like I got to this point, I had gone through some therapy and I realized that I had to fix myself in order to stop bringing these types of characters into
my life. And also to stop accepting mediocrity and corporate as well. Because I realized that I was going for the things that I felt the most comfortable with because. I felt like if I went for the tougher jobs, the more responsibilities or the more like they're not going to pick me. Why would they pick me? You know, like I'm not I'm not at that level yet. They're looking for something bigger and better. And I wasn't that I was self -rejecting from all the greatness.
And so I was settling for mediocrity. Let's just put it this way. And so when I decided to be to start my business, it was at that point where like I started shifting in my mindset where I'm
like, wait a minute. you know if corporate doesn't you know one of the things that I said to myself is like I never want to get like I had just gotten laid off because of COVID too so I said to myself I never want to put myself in a position again where corporate can just like lay me off and I have nothing to myself because I was already planning on leaving my marriage so I said I need to build um start building a portfolio of income like I need to start like building money some
way somehow so that if one drops I'm still making money somewhere else and and also it was my way of saying to my ex -husband that like you know if I can make it you know um like I could I you know he would he would say things like you'll never make it yeah you need me you're nothing without me whatever exactly so he would say things like that and you know, I, it was like my way of saying, I'm going to conquer it. I'm going
to do this. Right. I'm going to like, there's no one that's and, and transparently the first time I started my business, the first time the end of 2023. And at that time I was still working on my confidence. So like the, the, the intention was there, but I still had some things to work through. And then I got laid off again from my corporate job in 2024. um, last year, March. And that's when I realized I was like, wait a
minute. I said, I wanted to start my business so that I can, you know, um, you know, not put myself in a situation where I have nothing and it happened. So I took the summer off to, to, to be with my kids because my daughter also had some anxiety issues. And, um, you know, so I said, let me be present for my kids. But as I was being present for my kids, I was like, in my mind, I was like, you know, building myself up and building myself up and building myself
up. And this time around, um, as I was, you know, as I'm starting my business again, this year, I started again, like Q4 of last year. Um, it's a completely different field. Like I, it's almost like I'm looking back at the person that I was and I'm like, who is that person? Yeah. And I like that. Right. Um, you know, it was just a series of like, okay, I, you know, I need to make it. There's no other option, right? Like
I need to, now I'm a single mother. And transparently when I was getting a divorce, I, my divorce was finalized in 2021. As a corporate professional, I ended up getting my first job. So like I was, I was unemployed when I was going through my divorce because of COVID. I was 2020. I finalized my divorce in 2021. Um, but in my divorce is finalized April, 2021 by like May, I ended up getting my first job, like in corporate after my ex -husband with, I mean, I negotiated, you
know, a huge salary. It was something like 15 or 20 K or something like that, that I negotiated, but it was because I said to myself, like there, you know, the worst they can do is say no. Um, I just psyched myself up. It was like a, like, I just blurted out the number. Like I was just saying to myself, like, all they're going to do is say, no, it's not, you know, the word no is not a, a bullet is a two letter word. It's a, it's nothing. Right. Like I just kept saying
to myself, no, is not a bullet. No, is a two letter word. It doesn't define me. If, if they don't feel like I'm worth it, then fine. I choose to either stay or go, but you know, it doesn't define me their rejection. Right. So. I just said, I want this much. And they were like, okay. And I said, that's it. That's it. It's not always going to be like that. Right. Because it's awesome when it is. Yeah. Oh, awesome. When it is. And what's, you know, a few things to pull out of
this is trying something. And then you didn't give up. Like it stayed in your heart and you came back to it. And again, the deep encouragement to all the people listening that what's in your heart is there for a reason. And it may come in a season. Now we're in a Dr. Seuss rhyme. Yeah, exactly. Right. But stay with it. don't give up on your dreams because the timing isn't always up to you, but being prepared when timing comes along is. And so I'm getting goosebumps
again. People talk about manifestation or God's will. There's, there's. supernatural forces at work but you're not a leaf in a windstorm you are responsible for preparing yourself and taking actions to align to those great works and this is what you've laid out here is that the pull in your heart was I'm ready to heal from deeper I'm starting that in my home with this relationship which obviously ties into multiple other relationships and versions of Sasha that existed always. And
I've had a moment like that. I left a bad relationship as I neared 30. I met him at the end of high school until like 28, 29. And I remember that moment of being like, more, like done. And it was just... it was just like douchey, right? It was low level, like just, and I was tired of living in that because it held me down and
it held me back. Right. And when you're meant for more, you can only tolerate so much before the will strengthens and the willingness we're talking about just a few minutes ago to just see. And that's like you're saying in, in propositioning. the salary, you're just seeing, you're just experimenting
and throwing stuff out there. And it's very, very powerful to say that no is not a bullet, especially if you're just starting out either seeking a career change, because Sasha, obviously, you can share this with your audience, or, you know, seeking more of something in your life. No happens. We say no to things. We say no to things, to a lot of things, to a lot of people, men, women, other whatever is that have asked you out, you know, food menu items, clothing,
hotels, like everything. So that is such a phenomenal foundation to move from where you're willing to get a no and you know that no don't mean. Nothing. Exactly. And, you know, and that's what it's important with auto rejection, too, because like I said, like, you know, the second time I ended up doing it, like fast forward a little bit, I ended up one of my colleagues referred me to another job while I was in this job. I
was I became a recruiter. Then she referred me to a project manager with a lot more on the base. But I knew as a project manager that I can ask for a little bit more. And so I did. I went I think I asked for something like 15 or. another 15 or 20 K, but, uh, and I ended up like, it wasn't the same, right. It wasn't like, oh, okay. It was more of a negotiation. I negotiated. It was, it took me like two or three times for us to get the number. Right. Um, but the point is
that I was like, not auto rejecting myself. I wasn't saying, well, they're going to say, no, they're going to, you know, what if they, because when I was a recruiter, that's when I really realized that coaching is what I wanted to do, because I spoke to so many women, especially my minority women who were so socially conditioned to being the good girl, the good girl that just accepts, like, you know, just, I would have to coach them and say, I would take my recruiter
hat off because obviously I worked for the company. So I, you know, but I would take my recruiter hat off and say, listen, you know, I, I need you to do a little bit more research on this role. Right. And I also need to need you to look at like, you know, because I can tell what a woman felt about herself when she opened her mouth and said, well, I'm looking for this much. And I can like with her body line, which she would say, I'm thinking like she would do a whole
lot of that and dancing around the topic. And I'm like, girl, just spit it out. You know, and I made them comfortable enough to tell me. And, you know, there were many times where I took my my recruiter hat off and I would coach them on like, you know, this is how you want to present this. Right. The confidence, the confidence of owning the request. Exactly. Like I've been seeing these. I just saw a video about a woman interviewing
a man using questions that women get asked. And the men were highly uncomfortable in what you just described there. And everybody is a little bit different, so we don't want to overgeneralize, et cetera, the disclaimer. But imagine a man being wishy -washy and like that, right? And what's the difference? It's that, well, women are awesome, awesomer. Exactly. And we don't like to receive as much as we love to give, right? Exactly. But how do you get to more than if you're
self -limiting, like you're saying, right? So what started, like, it's such a tangible. that illumination, if you will, of like the spark of the fire growing, leaving the husband, pursuing the career, and now, you know, stepping into this next version and the Sasha that you are today and continuing. Now you're kind of like in a momentum role, right? It's like, oh, baby,
I ain't stopping, right? Yeah. So another thing that, another thing that motivated me was like I said, my kids, because like I said, corporate America is not meant for mothers and it's certainly not is, is not meant for single mothers. Right. So as a single mother, I have been working from home since 2016, since my daughter was born. But I, we're in a market now where everybody's like return to work, return to work, return to
work. And so when I got laid off last year, I vowed to myself, I was like, you know, first of all, the market has been crappy. So even if I, you know, even if I saw roles that were hybrid, they wouldn't even call me back or in -person roles. But, you know, I said to myself, like, what do I want? Right. Because I don't want to be chosen just to be just because that's a that's
a thing that women. go through in their job search right like when they're looking for jobs they're ready for a job and the the delight of being chosen by a company overpowers or the fact like oh my god they like me that they're not really like almost like when you're dating you're not really seeing the red flags because you're like oh my god he likes me he likes me he likes me so you're just excited about that you're not seeing the red flags but a lot of times like
when we're in these toxic work environments we could have seen that if we just asked the right questions if we could read between the lines, if we were a little bit hyper, if we did the due diligence of asking them like, okay, you know, what is, you know, what are the, like, how can I say? What was the one question that I asked that I told one of my, you know, what are the, what is the culture like for women, you know, parents or something? I don't recommend
people. talking too much of their personal business because we're looking at biases, right? From an HR standpoint. But yeah, so I realized, I said to myself that I sat down and I wrote down my non -negotiables just like I did for dating. My non -negotiables of like, this is what I need a work environment to be. This is what the company needs to be for me. This is what my terms needs to be. This is what my salary needs to be. And once you have down your non -negotiables, it's
hard for a job. to make you sway. Once you're very, very clear on this is what I need to be happy because I wasn't happy when I took these jobs that didn't have these things, right? So one of the things for me was I needed to work from home and I also needed a leader that wasn't micromanaging. Like if my, thank God, my last boss was, she was the one that made this like possible for me in my mind that. You know, she never checked in on me. She just said, is the
work done? That's it. I would deliver whatever, you know, I would deliver things on time. But she was never like, oh, you can't log off at two o 'clock to pick up your kids and take them to Taekwondo. She's like, you're a salaried employee. Just manage your time. Like, as long as you get things done, I don't care what time you log off. So I would log off when I had my kids because I have 50 -50 custody. I will log off on my days,
you know, at, you know, two o 'clock. go pick up my daughter, go pick up my son, take them to their activities. And then later on when they were in bedtime, I would log in and do a little bit more work. Right. So, so I need that too. Cause if a company is telling me I need to stay on the computer from nine to five, that's also not going to jive well with me. Right. So now I ask questions about that. Right. Well, when I was considering going back to corporate, but
this is what I tell women all the time. Definitely have your list of non -negotiables for everything, for your business, like what you, what you want to feel like, the types of clients you want and what do you want? Like, as long as you have your list of non -negotiables, it's going to be, and you stay, you stay stuck with them and you say, this is what I actually need to be happy. It's going to be harder for you to sway from that
and for you to accept their minimum. Right. So to answer your question, like what, what else, like, I guess motivated me is, is my kids. You know, my kids really, really cemented into me that I need to be present and that I don't want to be in a corporate environment where they're like, oh, you have to be on the computer from nine to five. It's not going to work for me. Like my kids have activities. And no, I'm not going to pay someone to drive my kids to their
activities. I want to be there. I want to cheer my kids on. Yeah. You know, being a mom, this
is like, it's the most important. cliche but it's like it's the most important job your kids are under 10 my kid is under 10 like you want to be there with them now is the time to be there with them right and until they leave us I know it's it also shows them a beautiful family lifestyle right and that they can count on you and very empowering that you can design your life the way that you want it to flow right and I love the juxtapositions of finding this in corporate
because we often hear that on the flash sale of the entrepreneurial world And again, you guys, I work a full -time job, got kids all over the place and running this online business, but doing it in my schedule, in my... my decisions for me. And that is where the real power is. And that is where you are truly in control in managing yourself. So I love that you're encouraging women in the corporate workforce to do that, because
it is a difficult system. And I would not be surviving life right now, if not for the employer that I have, which is largely women led phenomenal women. phenomenal women a lot of us have um enough of us have kids in the same age range like single digit still you know when doing the school runs and stuff and that same um Trust in competence. So trust in competence. We want our employer to trust in our competence. We also need to fully trust in our competence. Exactly. How we're delivering
and of what more we can have. And I tell you, Sasha, even just being in your space has got me thinking about pushing a little bit faster, stronger. for like a higher level position, creating a higher level position at my workplace, because like, I'm looking around at what I'm doing and it's way above pay grade, right? Well, that's another thing, right? Is that as women, we, that people pleasing aspect, you know, we, so I'm, you seem like you love your job. So I'm not really
talking about you. What I'm talking about is the women that are like, you know, they're, preying on a shiny star that their leaders like they get this job and they spend their entire life pretty much 50 to 60 hours a week performing and saying like you know i i you know i have to be the first one to leave and the last one to stay and i have to go above and beyond with this and go above and beyond and and they're they're hoping on a star wishing upon a dream
that they get a promotion and they get like a salary raise like this. They think that that's going to be an automatic thing and it's not. And so what it drives is - See me, see me, see me. Exactly. What it drives is resentment because that's where you get the disgruntled people because they're like, well, I did this and I did all that and I get nothing because they come in with the expectation. They say, if I just work hard
enough, they'll see me. And that's not, that's just going to drive you to burnout and resentment, you know, because that's not the way it works in corporate. In corporate, if you haven't noticed yet, it's the people that built the best relationships. It's the people that knows people. This is why sometimes when I hear people say, well, I can't believe they hired that girl and she gets paid way more than I do. And I'm like, yeah, because she negotiated her salary and you didn't. Yeah.
She just went, let's just be frank. She just went for more. Um, you know, so, so like, let's take accountability for ourselves. And like I said, you sound like you love your job. I'm talking mostly about the women that are like, you know, they're like, you know, I, I, I've heard it all. I've seen it all. And I, and I, and I, and I really, my heart breaks for women because it's,
it's like, it's the same thing. This is why I do holistically because usually The same woman that have a hard time with like setting boundaries with men, you're usually going to see it in the workplace. Like, this is the woman that is like, you know, I cook for you. I clean for you. I do this for you. I do that for you. And like, you won't give me a ring. You won't propose to me, but they're doing the same thing at work. They're expecting to, you know, when that should
have been, you shouldn't be performing. That should be something like, if you walk, like you deserve that. You would have had that in the bag from the beginning. Like you would have set yourself up to say, this is what I'm going to get. And if this is not what is happening, I'm gone. But we keep trying a little bit harder, a little bit harder, performing a little bit harder. And like I said, we end up burning out and resentful because we're not on the same page
with these people that we are. You know what I mean? So yeah, there's so in local government, we tend to say if you don't let it break, it can't be fixed. Right. And I do love my job, but I also am ambitious. And anytime I have worked in local government, I've been able to grow the service portfolio and have those same intentions here and having those conversations. So even when you love your job, be encouraged to still ask for more because it is available and you're
well positioned to achieve it. And then this. What I say to women, I'm so sorry not to cut you off, but what I say to women is don't go in there with the thought is I'm going to become irreplaceable. You have to become promotable. There's two different things. Two different things,
but sorry, go ahead. Yeah, well, talk about that because in this endeavor, you are taking internal responsibility to drive an external result okay yep internal responsibility drive external result instead of please see me please see me please see me i love that what you said sasha praying on a chinese star like girl yeah yeah exactly there god is for your knees life is for your feet get up and get going Exactly. And work it,
right? Because exactly, people get things they want by asking and asking and asking and or building a business case to validate it. Like when you talked about the project management role and wage, that is a business case and negotiating deliverables and time and results that they can then. qualify for payment, right? Like a total negotiation, it's really a back and forth. And it's easy to quit in that because it gets scary, daunting, or you're not sure what the outcome
is going to be. But get to the outcome, whatever it is, because when you get the experience, and practice, and then you get to build that power, you get to keep that fire stoking and growing, right? And that's what's really going to lead to the change. It's not Like in transformation and life coaching and everything, we talk about what happens on the outside when we've transformed, but the real work and, you know, huge premise of powerful link is what's actually going on
inside. Like, let's go behind the scenes. I don't care about your 10 ,000 clients and $5 million from one post. I care about what happened to get you there and what you went through to get there. And the only way to do that is to lift
the weights. yeah what what else do you want to share with us to like based on what you've seen and based on your lived experience of going through that work now um you know it sounds like you've you've really stepped into a solid version of yourself you've done some great healing and now you're just like ready to go forward marching forward I don't want to say force, but I want to say like lovingly bring other women along, right? Yes. Yes. So I'm actually working on a
few cool things. So first of all, I have my free newsletters called the corporate glow up. And it's where I help corporate women. I say, you know, get the paycheck they want, the peace of mind they want. um, without having to work, you know, a day or the title that they want without having to work a day past a minute past 5 PM. So we're not performing, we're not compromising, you know, we're not saying, okay, like if I work 60 hours a week, that means I won't see my kids.
Like, you know, we are, you know, getting what we want, um, without compromise, but in a, you know, unapologetically, but also feminine way, if that makes sense. Like there's like a, there's like a little bit of a balance there. Um, So, yeah, so I that's where I give weekly tips on, you know, building that building that confidence, building that portfolio, that executive presence. Yeah. But also I'm actually working on something really exciting. I don't know if you've ever
heard of Lean In. Yes. Lean in. So like, I'm actually considering starting my circle. So that, that might be something that like, you know, sign up for my corporate newsletter, the corporate glow up, because I'm, there's something that might, I might be announcing pretty soon where I'm like a mastermind or something more like a, a group where we're having weekly theme topics. Like we're talking anything corporate growth.
Right. And it's a weekly, it's like a group of powerful women that we get together and we talk about, you know, like growing in corporate, right. Once a month. So that might be something that, you know, that is, is, is in the works, but definitely for sure to stay on top of that, join my newsletter, the corporate glow up where I share all these details. Yeah. Amazing. I can see in you, Sasha, the passion and the proficiency. You know your
industry, right? And I just am so grateful that you believed in yourself enough, which was just a little bit at the beginning, you guys. It's just a little bit at the beginning because you're creating a new thread of evidence as to trusting yourself by following through. Like you said, Sasha, I had to make it work. This was the way
forward and I had to do it. Fine, to prove it to him, to prove it to them, for my kids, whatever the motivation was, it became who you are and it became self -belief that you can do things that you dream about. That's how you make your dreams actually come true, is by taking the imperfect actions. and growing that belief and growing that trust. And then now, because you've done it, you know how possible it is. And it's so encouraging and so healthy for corporate environment
to start to have this shift. Because I tell you again, like at my workplace, women leaders, it's a totally different vibe. And it's not, it's just, yeah, it's just more holistic. This is
a more holistic future. a better place to be empowered and make change and it's available you just have to be willing to do the heavy lifting right to push through and then you get to have this and and like I mean when you have those breakthroughs with the women it's you're not just getting them more money you're you're expanding their heart yeah right yeah that's the life coaching
piece it's awesome Yeah. Whatever, whatever we go through as far as like confidence or negotiation or setting that, that transcends into every, this is why I say I work holistically. I don't just work on the career part because like, I find that women that struggle in one area of the life, it transcends into others. And so, you know, whatever we go through, whatever we, this is something that can help shape you in every area of your life. You know, it's not just
like a resume. It's not just interview skills. you know, we get to the root of the things, you know, we get to the root of, I'm definitely not a therapist or anything like that, but, you know, we, we definitely get to the bottom of like, okay, why, you know, what is it that, that I'm doing now that can help me do things a little bit different, right? Because we can't. keep doing the same thing except different results, right? So if we're doing the same things, okay,
how do we change it? What are we doing that can be fixed? It's an opportunity. And how do we optimize it so that we can get different results and better results? But yeah, thank you so much for having me. Oh my God, thank you. So we'll put in the link to the newsletter. We follow you on LinkedIn. You're on Facebook too? You're on Instagram? I'm on Facebook. I'm on Instagram. I'm definitely more active on LinkedIn though. But yes, I'm on Instagram. Instagram and Facebook,
it's Sasha the Career Coach. And Facebook, LinkedIn is, you know, Sasha Lazoski. But yeah, thank you so much for having me. Thank you too. And watch out guys, because we're going to run you over with our empowerment. Thanks, Sasha.