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Poured Over

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Poured Over is a show for readers who pore over details, obsess over sentences and ideas and stories and characters; readers who ask a lot of questions, just like Poured Over's host, Miwa Messer, a career bookseller who's always reading. Follow us here for surprising riffs, candid conversations, a few laughs, and lots of great book recommendations from big name authors and authors on their way to being big names. New episodes land Tuesdays and Thursdays (with occasional bonus episodes on Saturdays).
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Episodes

Ian McEwan on LESSONS

"I'm heading into my mid 70s and I really want to just get into a novel and live inside it. No sense of hurry. No deadline, no sense that anyone's waiting for this. I don't want to talk to anyone about it, but I just want to inhabit it." Award-winning author Ian McEwan's new novel, Lessons , takes readers on an emotional journey through the life of one man and McEwan joins us on the show to talk about aging, writing a novel in lockdown, what kinds of books make us cry and much more with Poured O...

Sep 13, 202253 min

Jonathan Escoffery, Yiyun Li and Ling Ma on The Art of Fiction

"I start with the emotion. I don't know what the story is. I don't know who the characters are necessarily. I'm working on very little like, I'm thinking, 'oh, well, the way this light looks through a window', or something — very few details here and there. But I don't know what happens in this story." Join three amazing authors talking about their three fabulous fall reads: If I Survive You by Jonathan Escoffery, The Book of Goose by Yiyun Li and Bliss Montage by Ling Ma. The authors speak with...

Sep 10, 202255 min

Margaret Wilkerson Sexton on ON THE ROOFTOP

"…In this particular book, I think I wanted to combat the feeling that we were already inundated with, and even the feelings that are attached to social justice issues. I wanted to combat the feelings of anger and helplessness and all of that with joy." Margaret Wilkerson Sexton follows her NAACP Image Award-winning novel The Revisioners with On the Rooftop , a stunning novel about a mother whose dream of stardom for her three daughters clashes with their own desires in a rapidly gentrifying 195...

Sep 08, 202247 min

Javier Zamora on SOLITO

"That nine-year-old kid still follows me and is with me and is very much a part of me... And this is the hope for the book, not only for non-immigrants, but for immigrants, to really start to have that internal conversation about what we have been through. And I think this book is mostly for them. The book was for me, and then putting it around the world is for everybody. But I hope that non-immigrants can see that we don't want to do this, and that it's difficult, and that we carry this with us...

Sep 06, 202245 min

Mason Hereford on TURKEY AND THE WOLF: FLAVOR TRIPPIN' IN NEW ORLEANS

"I think about food constantly, but more so than anyone else it's the people I work with who are inspiring me now.... I'm always inspired by the people I cook with, and the people I work with in the restaurants, and they're, you know, they're the ones who are inspiring me most right now, because they're making it all happen." Chef and restaurant owner, Mason Hereford's new cookbook Turkey and the Wolf: Flavor Trippin' in New Orleans is full of flavorful, fun recipes and beautiful photos that wil...

Sep 03, 202236 min

Jessie Burton on THE HOUSE OF FORTUNE

"I think it is a conversation I'm having with my younger self, who loved the idea of time travel, who loved the idea that these people perhaps not so different from us, who quite quickly could imagine herself out of her body and into another world against all the laws of physics. And I know I'm not alone in that. I think so many people want to read for a moment in their day or week, of escape, but not mindless escape, but detailed, pleasurable, important escape…" Jessie Burton's debut novel, The...

Sep 01, 202245 min

Sarah Addison Allen on OTHER BIRDS

"I think they grew out of the setting of this weird island, this odd place, this place of southern stories and ghosts and food and how they are misfits, but they find their tribe, they find where they belong with other people who think they don't belong either. And I think that is a universal truth for us all." Sarah Addison Allen's charming new novel, Other Birds , is our September B&N Book Club pick and she joins us on the show to talk about ghosts, unconditional love, mothers and motherin...

Aug 30, 202246 min

Ada Limón on THE HURTING KIND

"I think it's really important to remember that poetry has always sort of existed in the moment. It's full of the life that we're living right now. It is a remnant of the life that we're living right now. You know, distilled moments, it's the mess of our life. It's all of those things. And I think we do ourselves a disservice if we think those things don't include joy, that don't include breath and contentedness and moments of peace. And we all have that sometimes, as we struggle." Ada Limón, ou...

Aug 27, 202247 min

R.F. Kuang on BABEL

"We're all constantly translating ourselves to the world—we all are trying to take the inevitable stuff that happens in our psyche, our fears, and hopes and desires and dreams and trying to communicate that with others. And some of us are more successful at it than others." A group of four friends find themselves at the center of a deadly battle between good and evil at an alternate 1800s Oxford University in Babel , the epic new novel from R.F. Kuang, author of the bestselling Poppy War series....

Aug 25, 202241 min

Beth Macy on RAISING LAZARUS: HOPE, JUSTICE AND THE FUTURE OF AMERICA'S OVERDOSE CRISIS

"And so, then I thought, Who do I most admire ? Who taught me the most, and also, they're doing it for completely selfless reasons, right? And I thought, Oh, that moment and the parking lot . So, I thought, I'm going to start a book in the parking lot of a McDonald's dumpster in a dying town and show you how, in the most unlikely places, magic is happening." Beth Macy's 2018 bestseller Dopesick and the Emmy-nominated Hulu streamer it inspired have helped changed our national conversation about O...

Aug 23, 202245 min

Keith Corbin on CALIFORNIA SOUL: AN AMERICAN EPIC OF COOKING AND SURVIVAL

"But I had fun growing up, you know, kids Double Dutch and playing football in the front yard, trash can basketball, running around 40 deep into projects with extended family, cutting the lights off—we really have fun. Of course, you've seen the drug selling, you've seen the dice games. We found a way to become comfortable in an uncomfortable situation." Keith Corbin's story is unlike any we've heard for a James Beard Award nominated chef, and he holds nothing back in his candid memoir, Californ...

Aug 20, 202242 min

Dr. Moiya McTier on THE MILKY WAY: AN AUTOBIOGRAPHY OF OUR GALAXY

"To me, science is the rigorous attempt at understanding the world around you. And most people think that that means you're in a lab wearing a coat, working with test tubes. But I think that that's just a matter of using the scientific method in your everyday life. It's a matter of observing the world around you and being curious enough to ask questions and having the logic skills and some math and science skills to find the answers to those questions. But it goes beyond physics and chemistry. I...

Aug 18, 202241 min

Julian Barnes on ELIZABETH FINCH

"This is one of the great differences between journalism and literature, which I practice in. You write journalism in order for everything to be absolutely clear at the first reading … you write fiction in order to reflect the complexity of the world. And that complexity isn't necessarily grasped at first meeting." Elizabeth Finch is the latest (and deceptively slim) new novel from Julian Barnes, author of the Booker Prize-winning novel The Sense of an Ending . He joins us on the show to talk ab...

Aug 16, 20221 hr

Jana Casale on HOW TO FALL OUT OF LOVE MADLY

"To me, the thing as a writer that you should always be working towards is like, how can I make this just be delicious for the reader?" Jana Casale has perfected the art of writing about the ordinary lives of women in such a way that fans of Elena Ferrante and Sally Rooney will flock to, and her latest story following the lives of three young women as they navigate love, How to Fall Out of Love Madly , is just out. Jana joins us on the show to talk about the lives and relationships of Millennial...

Aug 11, 202244 min

Jasmine Guillory on Writing Characters We Love

"All three of the books that I have written during the pandemic have really been my way of going into another world and finding a place where none of this was happening. And that I could just relax and have fun. And so, I hope that my books are that kind of fun, joyous of maybe slightly salacious time for readers, too, because that's what I enjoyed as I was writing them." Jasmine Guillory is one of our favorite rom-com authors, with her seventh and eighth books ( By the Book and Drunk on Love ) ...

Aug 09, 202243 min

Tess Gunty on THE RABBIT HUTCH

"To write a young woman who refuses to define herself by anything other than her activism, her mind, her curiosity, that was just a delight, and she wasn't the most predictable character, but she was the one who told me what to do on every page." How to describe Tess Gunty's dynamic debut, The Rabbit Hutch ? Think Jennifer Egan + Denis Johnson. Think polyphonic novel about climate change and gentrification and coming-of-age in a dying American Dream with an unforgettable 18-year-old as its heart...

Aug 06, 202245 min

Ryka Aoki on LIGHT FROM UNCOMMON STARS

"But when I write, that's when I feel I can take part in society, I can contribute to ideas, and to teach and to share, and to say, I love you to society—to maybe talk about some of the difficult things in life, but to affirm that these experiences only serve to make life what it is." From space aliens and cursed violins to a Queen of Hell with a heart, to found family, coming-of-age and living in your truest self, Ryka Aoki's Light from Uncommon Stars is our latest Speculative Fiction Monthly P...

Aug 04, 202246 min

Anthony Marra on MERCURY PICTURES PRESENTS

"There's just so much rich material in Hollywood during the 1940s—which is where much of the book is set—there is just sort of an endless rabbit hole you can go down. And of course, one of the problems with writing a book about the movie industry is that sitting around watching movies technically counts as research." We still think about Anthony Marra's incredible debut, A Constellation of Vital Phenomena , years after first reading. His newest novel, Mercury Pictures Presents , is an epic story...

Aug 02, 202245 min

Eleanor Brown on ANY OTHER FAMILY

"I just had so many questions about adoption and motherhood. And you know, you've read my books, you know that I'm very interested in what makes a family and how does our family influence us. And that's all part of this book, too." From her sparkling debut, The Weird Sisters , to her latest, Any Other Family , Eleanor Brown writes big-hearted novels with hopeful endings about family and finding ourselves. She joins us on the show to talk about the story behind her latest novel, how questions and...

Jul 28, 202245 min

Eric Kim on KOREAN AMERICAN: FOOD THAT TASTES LIKE HOME

"What's really interesting about taste memory is it's not that you're trying to necessarily replicate the dish exactly as it was, I think you're actually just trying to replicate your memory of it, because your memory is always going to be the platonic ideal of it." Eric Kim has a delightful approach to food, and his debut cookbook is a charming exploration of the Korean American table. He joins us on the show to talk about home cooking and how our family stories connect to food, representation ...

Jul 26, 202256 min

Alice Elliott Dark on FELLOWSHIP POINT

"One thing I really have learned—or at least for myself about writing—is never to explain why a person is the way they are, just to make a dramatic case for why they are the way they are. So, the moments I have that are backstory, or that go back and forth in time, it's because that backstory or that moment of slippage of time is dramatically relevant to the present moment of the story." Alice Elliott Dark ( In the Gloaming ) returns with Fellowship Point , a spectacular novel of friendship and ...

Jul 21, 202247 min

Isaac Fitzgerald on DIRTBAG, MASSACHUSETTS

"I wish I could tell you that I went to a cabin and wrote it perfectly and got it in on time, and it just flowed out of me. But really, the truth of the matter is, it came in fits and starts. And it was written on notepads and half-filled notebooks and phone apps and bar napkins….I grew up in a time of a lot of white men writing, Oh, my sad childhood stories. And so, my whole thing was I'm not going to do that, I'm not going to do that ." Isaac Fitzgerald walks through the world with an open hea...

Jul 19, 202243 min

Becky Chambers on A PRAYER FOR THE CROWN-SHY

"The primary intent of these books is to take a break... have something you can just curl up with for an afternoon. This is a book that is not going to hurt you. And I think that that's so vital in this day and age, to be able to just pause for a second. I want the book to feel like a cup of tea as well... But I wanted to give you the option of chewing on some of the stuff in there." Hugo Award-winning author Becky Chambers is arguably a master of the space opera, with her complex, hopeful chara...

Jul 16, 202242 min

T. Kingfisher on WHAT MOVES THE DEAD

"When you're writing a children's book, it shares much relation with horror, because it has to be usually very immediate and very visceral and gripping. Because otherwise the kids are gonna get bored. And your window of opportunity to grab the reader is … longer with horror, you can do the slow creeping dread better, but you have to grab the reader, metaphorically, by the throat." Whether you know her as Ursula Vernon or T. Kingfisher, one thing is for sure—this Hugo, Nebula, and Locus award-win...

Jul 14, 202245 min

Caleb Gayle on WE REFUSE TO FORGET: A TRUE STORY OF BLACK CREEKS, AMERICAN IDENTITY, AND POWER

"But there is joy in advocating for changing of the world for the better, for not allowing the world to tell you who you shall be, but rather reimagining a world in which you can be anything." Award-winning journalist and professor at Northeastern University Caleb Gayle delivers a stunningly original story of America in his first book, We Refuse to Forget: A True Story of Black Creeks, American Identity, and Power . Caleb joins us on the show to talk about growing up in Tulsa, Oklahoma and the a...

Jul 12, 202246 min

Chris Bohjalian on Telling Stories

"I decided to give myself the license to fail, and to write across gender, to write in the voice of a midwife's daughter. And if the book isn't working, fine, we'll write it from the perspective of the midwife's husband, from some other male character. But I loved it. It was so emancipating to not be me, to not be (at the time) this 30-something dude. And I loved it. And I think, my best books, my best characters, whether it's first person or third person, are women." Bestselling author and all-...

Jul 09, 202247 min

Ibram X. Kendi on HOW TO RAISE AN ANTIRACIST

"And so, too often, kids are raised to have empathy for people who look like them, or worship like them or act like them. And we're also taught to have empathy for people who deserve it. And I wanted to convey the importance of raising our kids to have empathy for people who don't look like them or don't live near them. And for us to not make our empathy almost like a tip in which it's transactional." Award-winning, bestselling author and MacArthur Genius Grant recipient Ibram X. Kendi returns w...

Jul 07, 202230 min

Gabrielle Zevin on TOMORROW, AND TOMORROW, AND TOMORROW

"I never thought I would be writing something where there would be a lot of intricate feelings around the game engine. But then if you think about something like say, like Sally Rooney's Normal People , who would think that you could feel so much passion over whether like, they go to that dance together, you know?" Gabrielle Zevin's delightful new novel, Tomorrow, and Tomorrow, and Tomorrow is part love story, part coming of age and entirely unforgettable—which is why it's our July B&N Book ...

Jul 05, 202245 min

Brian Broome on PUNCH ME UP TO THE GODS

"The most important thing is the reader. I tell my students, Look, if you're writing about yourself, it's great that you want to get your feelings out. You want to maybe, you know, have some catharsis. You want to get the earliest things out. But, if you bore the reader, you're done. You know, and it's important to consider the fact that you're telling a story…this is not a therapy session, you know, you're telling a story. And hopefully that story enlightens, or maybe makes the reader think." B...

Jul 02, 202245 min

Jason Reynolds and Jason Griffin on MY NAME IS JASON, MINE TOO

"For me, and perhaps for both of us, I think that our greatest sort of skill set is audacity. It's so funny the way people sort of negatively connote ego, but I think it's necessary to have some, because one has to have a little bit of, I mean, like, when we were 20 years old, our whole thing was we're gonna rearrange and change the way people think of the book, right?" Jason Reynolds and Jason Griffin have been friends for 20 years and that friendship has led to an incredible artistic collabora...

Jun 30, 202246 min
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