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Poured Over

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Poured Over is a show for readers who pore over details, obsess over sentences and ideas and stories and characters; readers who ask a lot of questions, just like Poured Over's host, Miwa Messer, a career bookseller who's always reading. Follow us here for surprising riffs, candid conversations, a few laughs, and lots of great book recommendations from big name authors and authors on their way to being big names. New episodes land Tuesdays and Thursdays (with occasional bonus episodes on Saturdays).
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Episodes

Isabel Allende on VIOLETA

"I want my readers to be entertained. And if possible, to take a look at that period of that century that was so fascinating, a time of violence, and change, and great steps forward for humanity…" Isabel Allende's epic new novel, Violeta, is out now, and she joins us on the show to talk about memory and history and justice, love and freedom and family, her creative process (and what the date January 8th means to her) and much more. Featured books: Violeta , A Long Petal of the Sea , The Soul of ...

Jan 27, 202238 min

Imani Perry on SOUTH TO AMERICA

"…I read every day. Reading feels like part of my identity…[it] feels essential as a writer to be reading always." Imani Perry is the acclaimed author of Looking for Lorraine: The Radiant and Radical Life of Lorraine Hansberry and Breathe: A Letter to My Sons among other books; her latest, South to America , is an extraordinary blend of personal memoir and American history, and she joins us on the show to talk about her travels around the American South, the people she spoke with and the friends...

Jan 25, 202238 min

John Darnielle on DEVIL HOUSE

"…Try reading it out loud. That's what I do. I read the whole book out loud, seven or eight times…four or five times… before it ever goes to edit. I believe that writing was made to be heard." From the age of five, John Darnielle knew he was going to be a storyteller, and he joins us on the show to talk about the structure and the shifting perspectives of his new novel, Devil House, who has standing to tell a story, the difference between touring and performing as an author instead of a musician...

Jan 22, 202243 min

Weike Wang on JOAN IS OKAY

"…So much of American media is, A s long as we have each other , it doesn't matter what happens, we're going to be fine. I don't always think that's true. Circumstances can really tear families apart. But, you know, I'm not going to write S uccession ." Weike Wang follows up her acclaimed debut novel, Chemistry , with the deadpan, darkly comic Joan is Okay . She joins us on the show to talk about how (and why) work becomes home for Joan, family and grief and William Faulkner, the horror of Micke...

Jan 20, 202235 min

Bernardine Evaristo on MANIFESTO: ON NEVER GIVING UP

"Well, this is the thing about being an overnight success after forty years." Bernardine Evaristo made history when Girl, Woman, Other won the 2019 Booker Prize, for she is the first Black woman and the first Black British person to have won the coveted prize in its more than fifty-year history. Bernardine joins us on the show to talk about her fabulous memoir, Manifesto: On Never Giving Up , "overnight fame" (after decades of work in literature and the theater), her creative process, the writer...

Jan 18, 202238 min

Jami Attenberg on I CAME ALL THIS WAY TO MEET YOU: WRITING MY WAY HOME

"I think bookstores are really magical places, and not to be too idealistic about it, I really think that they're so important, they're cornerstones to communities, and they are treasures and we need to keep them alive." Jami Attenberg, author of St. Mazie and The Middlesteins , among other novels, joins us on the show to talk about her first memoir, I Came All This Way to Meet You: Writing My Way Home, as well as the difference between loneliness and solitude, managing anxiety, her life as a wr...

Jan 15, 202236 min

Anna Malaika Tubbs on THE THREE MOTHERS

"This is not just for us to say, ' How interesting' now we know three more people, it's for us to say, ' What can we do now that we know their stories? '" Anna Malaika Tubbs delves into the stories of Alberta King, Louise Little and Berdis Baldwin in our January Nonfiction Pick, The Three Mothers: How the Mothers of Martin Luther King, Jr., Malcolm X, and James Baldwin Shaped a Nation. Anna joins us on the show to talk about the importance of reclaiming Black women's stories, motherhood and the ...

Jan 13, 202237 min

Hanya Yanagihara on TO PARADISE

"And when you are lucky enough as a writer to have your book be found, and then have it be a source of someone's passion, someone who is not normally spoken to by the book publishing industry, who then with generosity and real passion, finds a way to tell other people about it, you cannot get luckier than that." Hanya Yanagihara's second novel, A Little Life was already a word-of-mouth must read, a finalist for the Man Booker Prize and the National Book Award and winner of the Kirkus Prize when ...

Jan 11, 202240 min

Xochitl Gonzalez on OLGA DIES DREAMING

"You know, there's something that we don't talk about, which I think is like the underside of success and ambition, which is that for every step that we take towards something, it's a step away from something. And the more that we have these rarefied experiences, the more isolating they can be…" Olga Dies Dreaming is one of 2022's most anticipated debuts and our January Discover pick; Xochitl Gonzales joins us on the show to talk about her fabulous new novel and unforgettable protagonist, what i...

Jan 08, 202235 min

Jessamine Chan on THE SCHOOL FOR GOOD MOTHERS

"One thing that I was interested in doing is making literal the surveillance that parents feel every day, because there is the sense that you're being watched and judged and shamed all the time." Jessamine Chan joins us on the show to talk about her debut novel, The School for Good Mothers (think The Handmaid's Tale meets Klara and the Sun ), writing a Chinese American main character that she wanted to read, making sure her satire is laced with humor, how a self-proclaimed Luddite came to write ...

Jan 06, 202235 min

Noah Hawley on ANTHEM

"I describe it as a fantasy novel about the real world we live in, or a realistic novel about the fantasy world we live in." Anthem is Noah Hawley's terrific, page-turning sixth novel, and his first after his Edgar Award-winning bestseller, Before The Fall —it's also our January 2022 Barnes & Noble Book Club pick. Noah joins us on the show for a wide-ranging, spoiler-free conversation about breaking the fourth wall, the death of satire, how we can use fiction to help us make sense of a nonse...

Jan 04, 202236 min

Poured Over: David Mitchell and Aleksandar Hemon From Page to Screen

"And so we wouldn't be here without Natalie Portman, which isn't a sentence I was expecting to say this evening. But if you ever watched this, Natalie, thank you. Really thank you." That's novelist and screenwriter David Mitchell explaining the genesis of his friendships and working relationships with Lana Wachowski and Aleksandar Hemon—which includes screenplay credits on Sense8 and now, The Matrix Resurrections . David and Aleksandar join us on the show to talk about creativity and collaborati...

Dec 16, 202138 min

Mary Beard on TWELVE CAESARS

"And imagine what did it feel like to think this was new? Their life, all kinds of different images as time goes on, and people in the Renaissance and later want to recreate for themselves, particularly in painting, but not always in painting….what it is to create a likeness of someone who's been dead for a millennium or more?" Historian and bestselling author Mary Beard ( SPQR, Women & Power, Confronting the Classics ) joins us on the show to talk about her new book, Twelve Caesars , what i...

Dec 14, 202143 min

Juhea Kim on BEASTS OF A LITTLE LAND

"I went running in Fort Tryon Park in the northern reaches of Manhattan. And it was snowing. And during that run, I had this vision of a hunter lost in the snow…" Beasts of a Little Land is a remarkable debut novel about love and redemption, covering five tumultuous decades of Korean history. Juhea Kim joins us on the show to talk about writing and rewriting an epic novel with a large cast of characters, caring for her antagonists, Anna Karenina and more. Featured books: Beasts of a Little Land ...

Dec 09, 202136 min

Michelle Zauner on CRYING IN H-MART

"But at the end of the day, so many people have lost a loved one. This story is about mothers and daughters. It's about parents and children. It's about a different culture and relating to it. It's about food. It's about grief. It's about loss. It's about family." Two-time GRAMMY nominee Michelle Zauner joins us on the show to talk about her bestselling memoir Crying in H-Mart , one of the finalists for our B&N Book of the Year, as well as her literary influences, what she leaned about her m...

Dec 07, 202138 min

Rachel Smythe on LORE OLYMPUS

"Making connections with people has often been quite difficult for me, you know, this can be really isolating, but it's so incredible to make this book that so many people are interested in reading and enjoying, and they look at it, and they're like, Oh, this feels really relatable ." More than 5.4 million people follow Rachel Smythe's Lore Olympus on Webtoons, and now she's adapted the first 25 chapters of her retelling of the myth of Persephone into a fabulous book. Rachel joins us on the show...

Dec 02, 202136 min

Brené Brown on ATLAS OF THE HEART

"We're going to have to learn to be cartographers in our own lives." Brené Brown is the author of five number one New York Times bestsellers, including Dare to Lead , Daring Greatly , and Rising Strong ; co-editor with Tarana Burke of You Are Your Best Thing ; The host of two podcasts, Unlocking Us and Dare to Lead. Her Netflix documentary, The Call to Courage , is a huge hit—and her 2010 TED talk, The Power of Vulnerability , the one that launched her career as we know it, it is one of the top ...

Nov 30, 202138 min

Louise Penny on THE MADNESS OF CROWDS

"I'm constantly surprised by the books. Because I think about books a lot before I start writing them, I don't write structure and a formal outline. But I carry a notebook around with me for about a year before I start writing and I write down quotes and thoughts and ideas and snippets of overheard conversations and things from the newspaper…some of them are used later and some just are never used, but eventually a pattern forms and that becomes then the idea for the book…" Who hasn't thought of...

Nov 23, 202121 min

Jung Yun on O BEAUTIFUL

"…And I had arrived at McDowell, with about 200 pages in the summer of 2018…And the great thing about these writing retreats is that they give you a chance to do nothing but just think about your work. And that was a real gift to me, because it was both time and peace and quiet, to just think about this book. And to be really honest with myself about what was doing well and what it wasn't doing well at all…." Jung Yun had our attention from the very first page of her debut novel, Shelter , and w...

Nov 20, 202138 min

T.J. Klune on UNDER THE WHISPERING DOOR

"I love bookstores, with all of my heart for everything that they've done for me and my stories, but it is the booksellers that are at the front putting these books into the hands of readers, so they do absolutely deserve a majority, if not all of the credit." Our booksellers will be the first to tell you that T.J. Klune writes charming, heartfelt must-reads— The House on the Cerulean Sea was one of our favorite Monthly Picks this year—and his newest book, Under the Whispering Door is our Specul...

Nov 18, 202158 min

Nikole Hannah-Jones on THE 1619 PROJECT

"But we all want to see ourselves in a story of our country. And we call this a new origin story, not the origin story for reason. There are many origin stories; every person wants to feel a part of the narrative of our country." Nikole Hannah-Jones is a Pulitzer Prize-winning investigative journalist, a recipient of a MacArthur Fellowship (a.k.a. The Genius Grant), the Knight Chair in Race and Journalism at Howard University, and the driving force behind the revelatory, necessary 1619 Project. ...

Nov 16, 202141 min

Natashia Deon on THE PERISHING

"I don't remember my dreams a lot. But when I remember them, I stand up and pay attention." Both of Natashia Deon's novels, NAACP Image Award nominee Grace , and her latest, The Perishing , started with dreams she couldn't forget. Natashia joins us on the show to talk about her new novel—think N.K. Jemisin and Octavia Butler—1930s Los Angeles, love and justice, life and death, what it means to truly live in the present moment and more. Featured books: The Perishing and Grace by Natashia Deon. Pr...

Nov 11, 202131 min

Louise Erdrich on THE SENTENCE

"I'd always wanted to write a ghost story. And I always wanted to write about what it was like to be haunted, because I feel that so many of us are." Louise Erdrich's new novel, The Sentence —her first after The Night Watchman , winner of the Pulitzer Prize for Fiction—is a funny, big-hearted and profound story of second chances and ghosts, books and bookselling, and the messy love between spouses and parents and children. Louise joins us on the show to talk about hauntings, perfect short novels...

Nov 09, 202140 min

Neal Shusterman & Jarrod Shusterman on ROXY

"One of the comments that I've often gotten from parents who say, my son read Scythe , or my daughter read, Unwind , and made me read it, because they wanted to talk to me about it. And then we discussed it. And then the parent would say, I never knew my kid thought that deeply. You know, I think when we write things that ask the reader to rise to the level of the writing, and the level of the ideas behind the writing, they will do it, and they will appreciate not being talked down to." Acclaime...

Nov 06, 202137 min

Kal Penn on YOU CAN'T BE SERIOUS

"I wanted to tell my story in a way that made you feel like you were having a beer with me. And…even though I delve into things like identity and politics and family history and things that things that I'm really excited to share with everybody, I want it to be accessible to people who might disagree with me or might not have experience with the things that I have experiences with." From the Hollywood to the White House, Kal Penn's careers have been anything but boring; he's just published a ver...

Nov 04, 202135 min

Gary Shteyngart on OUR COUNTRY FRIENDS

"I'm here to have a dialogue with a person. And if I'm just gonna sit there and look down at my lap, well, speaking profoundly into my lap. That's not enough for me, I need to speak out--and entertain." Gary Shteyngart's new novel, Our Country Friends , is our November B&N Book Club pick, and it's a charming (and provocative) story of friendship and the family we make. Gary joins us on the show to talk about how friendships evolve (or don't), societal scorecards and lost paradises, why he wr...

Nov 02, 202144 min

Drew Magary on THE NIGHT THE LIGHTS WENT OUT

"And so, what was to me a relatively — at least in terms of storytelling — a tidy story of me collapsing and having my wife and my co-workers save my life and be getting up and getting out of the hospital and getting to write again, was a bit more involved than that." In his new book, The Night the Lights Went Out , Defector columnist Drew Magary delivers a darkly comic and deeply honest story about his recovery from the traumatic brain injury that almost killed him. Drew joins us on the show to...

Oct 28, 202142 min

Alice Hoffman on THE BOOK OF MAGIC

"And I had a great, great professor named Albert Guerard when I was starting out, and he said to me, 'Some people will tell you to write what you know. But I'm going to tell you write what you can imagine.' And that was such a gift." Words are magic (and truth and love and power) in Alice Hoffman's newest novel, The Book of Magic . It's the fourth in a series that started with Practical Magic in 1995, and features three generations of the fabulous (and sometimes prickly) Owens family, as it cuts...

Oct 26, 202135 min

Joshua Ferris on A CALLING FOR CHARLIE BARNES

"I love it, when, as a reader, I am surprised by the way people behave, you know that you're aghast and shocked and standing back a little bit. And I love it even more when I'm writing it, when I have tapped into a sense that I'm not in control of this guy, either." We've been fans of Joshua Ferris since his very funny and acclaimed 2007 debut, Then We Came to the End — and he had us howling with laughter as we read his latest, A Calling for Charlie Barnes . Joshua joins us on the show to talk a...

Oct 21, 202132 min

Elizabeth Strout on OH WILLIAM!

"I'm so interested in people. I have been fascinated by people since I was just my first memory. I just think people are, for me, they are the most interesting things in the world." No one captures the nuances of complicated lives quite like Elizabeth Strout, the Pulitzer Prize-winning author who likes to return to her characters and their communities in sometimes surprising ways, as she does in her new novel, Oh William! Elizabeth joins us on the show to talk about the world of Lucy Barton and ...

Oct 19, 202145 min
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