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Au début, t'es petit, après tu grandis. Métamorphose. Si je me compare à celle que j'étais quand j'avais 7 ans, c'est plus la même personne, je veux dire. Métamorphose. There's an acne and many other factors that make me look more. Metamorphosis. Metamorphosis. When you have a mustache, you're fier, you feel big. I'm going to tell you, because I don't want to.
Metamorphose. J'ai la flemme quand il faut faire les devoirs, quand il faut aller à l'école, quand il faut rentrer de l'école, quand il faut aller quelque part. Flemme. Before, I had no need to put perfume on my aissell and now I still have to put it. Because otherwise, it doesn't work. It makes me feel a little. Grandir. Changer. Différence. C'est le printemps. Énergie. ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ...
Vanessa Quar, professor documentalist and referent Egalité, observe for years his students with a curious and curious. In 2023, Vanessa has a idea. And if these metamorphoses, these passages from an infant to an adolescent, the students put them in images. They propose then to Charlotte Desligneries...
l'illustratrice de notre podcast, de guider les élèves dans la fabrication de leur production visuelle à l'aide de photomontages et de papiers découpés. Sur leur autoportrait, des coquelicots pour figurer les règles. Des chrysalides qui sortent de leur cocon. Une calculatrice sur un visage. Charlotte, impressionnée par le résultat, nous envoie leurs œuvres. C'est très beau, sensible et pudique à la fois.
Immédiatement, nous avons envie de recueillir les voix de leurs auteurs et autrices. Un an après la réalisation de ces images, nous voilà, Alice et moi, Charlie, dans leur classe de cinquième. Bonjour à toutes et à tous, vous pouvez vous asseoir. Alors... I'll let you present in first place.
Alors bonjour à tous. Alors moi je m'appelle Alice et celle qui tient le micro à côté de moi c'est Charlie. Donc on est toutes les deux journalistes et on va vous expliquer pourquoi est-ce qu'on est venu passer deux jours avec vous cette semaine pour fabriquer... A podcast. ... ... ... ... ... ... You'll see that we're going to get rid of it. So don't be afraid, don't film it. It's not images, it's just the voice. And it allows us to capture the atmosphere of our workshop.
Next, we're going to ask each other to write a letter. It can be to your body change, it can be to your parents, it can be... We're going to ask each other to write a letter. You choose. When we're going to make our letter, are we obligated to talk about a subject that we concern or not? You say what you want to say. We're not obligated by torture to talk about something that you gêne. Last year, it was the same thing.
Charlotte, on avait dit, vous choisissez un mot. Si je reprends des images de l'an dernier, on a aussi bien quelque chose sur les règles avec avoir ces coquelicots que... La voix qui mue, ça va, il me semble que ça, c'est pas trop intime. Donc déjà, l'an dernier, dans vos mots, vous pouviez choisir quelque chose qui vous parlait et avec lequel vous étiez à l'aise. Et après, la récréation va vous proposer un petit temps d'improvisation.
And the idea is that then we will record, you talk about recording, we will record these improvisations, again once again, that voice, that voice, that voice, and it will only durate a few minutes. All this material, we will use it to create our episode with you. Is it clear, the programme? I'm Mohamed and I have 12 years.
Des proches comme mon père, ma mère, etc., ont remarqué que plusieurs boutons apparaissaient sur mon visage. Cela ne me dérangeait pas, mais pour vivre avec une fille, quand je serai grand, cela dégrade ma beauté. Even if I'm not complexed, I'm not very satisfied with my head, but at least I have the chance to live in the best conditions.
In the beginning of the sixth grade, it started to appear more and more. I talked to my father, I asked him why he did that. He explained what was the acne, etc. It was a little nerve, because some of them were big and I didn't like it, because after it's too observable. Sometimes they say not to explode the buttons, what do my parents say, but I still do it because... Well, the little ones, I don't like it. But the big ones, yes, I'm obligated.
In fact, I just pour not to see them. But then it's a bit satisfying. Because when I just pour them, there's something that comes out and I get rid of it. I like it when it comes out of things. When I'm good at it, I find beautiful. In fact, on auto-evaluation on 10, I would rather put 7,5. 7,5 is the note you put on your beauty? Yes, on 10. It's already very good.
What I'm worried about is that, for example, when I was growing up, I'm afraid of someone, of a girl, and I'm afraid they refuse just because I have a lot of buttons. Honnêtement, from now on, there are women who... In fact, feminists, they just... In fact, they're just a police normal. Since then, they're like that, women. After that, I'm not someone who likes to live alone.
On a cru comprendre que dans votre projet Métamorphose, avec Charlotte, l'année dernière, vous avez travaillé un peu sur un dictionnaire, un lexique des mots de l'adolescence, de ce moment où le corps se transforme. Et du coup, on était assez curieux ce que vous nous présentez.
a little bit of this lexicon. What are the words of adolescence, of the transformation of the body that you have received with this work and that you want to share because you find that these words are interesting and that they can be useful. for other people who will listen to you later. Who will have the courage to do this? You have seen the microphone now. Mayra, you start? It's the spring.
C'est une expression pour dire que les boutons, par exemple, vont pousser sur le visage. Tu l'avais illustré, c'est ça ? En fait, on avait pris des photos, on avait découpé la tête et on avait mis un genre de tronc qui poussait avec des fleurs. Because when it's the spring, there are already plants, the bourgeons that have pushed. And so it makes a little think about the buttons.
You remember your word? My word was grandir. We illustrated it. We took a photo where we were a little more zoomed. And in fact, we made a sort of black hole where we fell inside and all of a sudden it made grandir. C'est un trou noir qui fait peur ? Pour certaines personnes, ça peut être terrifiant. Et pour d'autres, non. Et si c'est terrifiant, qu'est-ce qui est terrifiant ? Je ne sais pas, devoir grandir tout d'un coup. Par exemple, des fois, tu ne sais plus comment te contrôler.
For example, if you're going to do something without wanting to do it. For example, if you hit someone because your arm is too long. And without that you know, for example. For adolescence, for kids, it's a bit more difficult than for kids. There are more things that will appear than for the boys. For example... How to say... Well, we have the rules. And so it's painful for some girls. When the weight grows, it can be... complexant vis-à-vis au regard des autres.
My name is Mayra and I have 12 years. You can start when you want to read your letter. Dear Grand Thaï, thanks to you, I've grown a lot. And many people are serious, but not enough. J'ai eu droit à des surnoms plus ou moins rigolos. Ça dépend lesquels. J'ai eu le droit à des bâtiments, titans colossal, la girafe. Mais grâce à toi, je suis avantagée en sport. Je vais plus loin en saut en longueur. and I'm going faster. I've never been complexed. Don't be complexed. Your differences are unique.
One day, I was going to my grandmother to my mother, and they were really shocked to see me. I had grown up. Who is she? I don't know her. She has grown up. She has grown up now. They thought that I had 16 years, while I was only 8 years old. And all the time, they told me that she had 16 years, she's too big, my daughter. At the end... There were several professors who were shocked to see me as big. For a young man it's normal to grow up. Compared to a young man it can sometimes be shocking.
It was about my 8-9 years old. I had really grown up at that time. My poitrine started to develop and I had more shape. It's true that I felt a little more in advance compared to the other girls, even the boys. I was a lot bigger than them. For the coup, I felt like a big one. I was happy at that time. compared to the others who were 8, 40, or something like that. At 8, I was already 1,50 m, 1,52 m, something like that. In fact, I felt like it was me who was responsible for them.
I felt more mature. I felt like I was their grand-sœur. If, sometimes, there were a lot of kids in class or people who had problems, I would see and I would solve the problem. Because, personally, when I grew up, I told myself that it's okay, it's okay, I have to do things with children, I'm becoming a big now, I have to do things with big things.
I told myself, it's okay, you've got to do it now, you're big, soon you're going to college, and you'll be able to sign up after. So you have to start studying. Dès que j'ai grandi, je me suis dit, c'est bon, Mayra, maintenant tu prends plus de temps pour faire tes devoirs. In fact, the surnoms started with CM1, where they saw that I was one of the largest students in the class. The boys gave me a lot of surnoms.
Que ce soit bâtiment, titan colossal et la girafe, ça ne m'affectait pas trop. Genre, ok, je ne les écoute pas. Dans ma tête, je reste focus. S'ils me disent ça, ok, c'est pas grave. In your head you're still a baby or you give me some names like that. It continued in CM2, but there were really less. In 6th, there were almost none. And this year, not too much.
There I have to do 1m68, something like that. Do you think you're going to grow there? According to my brothers, I'll stop growing in not a long time, but I hope to grow again a little. I hope to make 1m75 a day. Because if you make 1m75, you'll be bigger than a lot of women. Yes, it's also what's different from being bigger than others. J'ai vraiment envie de rester grande comme ça l'a toujours été. On essaye ? Allez vas-y. Chers camarades, maintenant que je suis en adolescence,
you can't do anything anymore. If today you have the malheur to try to put me in anger, I will try by all means to me venger. N'essayez plus de me mettre en colère. N'essayez plus jamais de me traiter de petit. Il disait, regardez le petit sixième qui arrive, il est tout petit. It's because they do it, so they know very well that I don't like it. Why do you don't like it? It's funny. They always say, little, little, little, little.
Sometimes I have to hit them, but I don't want to do it because I know they will be punished. You measure how much? Between 1,40m and 1,45m. So there everyone is silent. Chut. Let's go. Oh!
In the vestiaire, we'll see what changes. Go on, we'll see. Go on. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey,
We're going to publish it. Go ahead, go ahead. It's a big deal. It's natural. I don't care about it. It's disgusting. We're going to tell the other comrades. Go ahead, go ahead. What did you say? Nothing. What did they do with him? They told me that I had teeth. Really? No. Okay, it works. I'm going to see the professor. Est-ce que c'est quelque chose pour vous qui est gênant que la moustache, la barbe, elle commence à pousser petit à petit ?
Well, I'd say no, because the mustache is like a proudest, because it's to prove that we start to grow. L'an dernier globalement les garçons avaient tendance à être un peu plus pressés. ... ... ... ... ... to say that it could be a bit more funny. There are a few who say that it's like that, but there was often this gap between the boys and the girls.
Après, c'est sur le signe de fertilité, de fierté, sur la barbe, etc. Par exemple, il y a un mème, si c'est bien sage, on l'appelle Guy Gachad, il a une belle barbe, etc. Bien taillée. In fact, it's a human, it's just a boy, it's a man. And he has a beard, a beard, well-taired, with a beautiful beard. We call it the men. It's a model. Yes, it's a model. It's called how?
Gigashod. Mais il sort d'où ? C'est un mème. En tout cas, c'est une référence de la toile, ce mème-là, d'un exemple de virilité. Oui, qui désigne qu'on est un homme. Because sometimes our parents say, you're a very good man, you're strong, etc. That's what they say. For example, when I told you, what does it mean to have a mustache or a beard? They told me that it was a real man. My name is Kibli and I have 12 years old.
I'm a fifth. I think I'm really weak for someone from my age. For example, my arms, I see all my legs. When I go to the pool, I'm afraid I'm looking for too much, that someone's looking for bad, bad for me behind my chest. He's all weak, he doesn't eat enough. I eat a lot, but I'm still also weak. I also eat eggs for the protein. The poulet and the eggs give a lot of protein. It's for the muscles.
Where did you see that? I don't know, I look at the internet, I see videos saying that the protein gives more muscle muscle. I get my eyes all alone. I would like a body not big nor weak, just like it should be. For example, I think 30 kilos for my age is really not enough. No, I'm weak. I find, because I'm maigre, I find more weak than others. For example, if someone's messing with me, I'm going to avoid doing the malin, because sometimes in college, it can go away.
...en bagarre, quoi. Et moi, je m'embrouille pas dans ça, moi. Je reste tranquille. Si quelqu'un m'embête, bah... ...je l'ignore, quoi. Une fois, je me suis déjà battu. In the sixth grade, it was in the court. It was an embrouille with a friend. And in fact, this friend is largely bigger than me and largely more muscular than me. So, we got married for a stupid thing, for chips. Another friend in the class had distributed chips for everyone. And this friend who was...
largement higher than me. He wanted to take my part. I told him no. After, we started to insult him and he threw me a kiss in the neck. And so, I started to say no, I'm going to go to the infirmary. I said a lot. I didn't really manage to change the coups. Since it happened, I told myself that all the mess that I'm going to do, I'm going to lose everything. I would like to have more mass or viande, for example, to be ready to mess up.
It's all the time to be ready. Don't forget the voice they port to the bottom of the room. Presenting us your project, boys. It's an election of the delegates. Okay, super. On fait les trois coups. As you know, it's the election of the delegates. Who wants to pass? Hello everyone, I'm Mohamed. And I'm going to present for the election of the delegates. If you vote for me, you will have the best notes to control, especially in history. And like that, you will be happy. Thank you all. Thank you.
At the beginning it was quite perturbant, but after I was proud of the grandir. I said, oh, I've grown, wow, it's good. Metamorphose. Metamorphose. When I'm in college, my voice has changed. She was how, before? She was already aigus. Like a child of primaire, in fact. Like that. You see aigus like... Like a child normal.
Télé vacances, ma voix a commencé à muer au fur et à mesure. Au début, c'était aigu, mais c'était aussi un peu grave. Après, au fur et à mesure, plus grave, plus grave. Et après, ça s'est arrêté. Comment tu vis ça, toi ? Je sais pas, bien. I prefer my vocal voice than my vocal voice. If you have a vocal voice, you feel a little adult. I'm Sarah and I'm 12 years old. Dear parents, you've seen me grow and change. You've suffered from my birth. Now you're not necessarily aware of it.
You have helped me a lot during the major part of my life. Now it's to me to take my independence and discover things by myself without having a moment with you. Why did you choose to write your letter to your parents? To inform them that I will grow, that I will change and that it will make them weird. Sometimes I could be more nervous.
or sometimes I would be more sad. Do you want to inform them of that because you think they don't have a conscience? Yes, because they take care of my other brothers and sisters. They don't see anything. I'm the child of the middle. I have seven brothers and sisters. There are two who are at my father.
Five brothers and sisters at home. In fact, your mom, you have to share it permanently. Yes, and especially because she has a lot of calls. And every time she calls her, she lasts at least one hour. If you had time with your mom, what would you want to do with your mom? Do you want to tell your parents what you don't want to say? Yes, sometimes I feel invisible. We don't see much. My parents are very occupying with my brothers, so they don't have much time.
so that I speak with them or that I do my work. What would you like to say that your parents and brothers and sisters have heard of you? Well, a person who's not here for the home, who's not a good person. I'm going to go home and I'm going to go home because my little sister has done the mess. And then I'm going to go home.
And I have to prepare their season and their food. I'm going to go to my little sister so they can sleep. When I'm going to get rid of it, after they're going to get rid of it, and after I'm going to get rid of it. And why is it to you to do the work? for my birth. She gave me all my life. So I help her. Because otherwise she will have too much to do. What I would like to do... It's that everyone takes their responsibility. My brother helps to arrange the salon a little bit.
Vanessa, the documentalist, gave me a lot of change in relation to the last year. The last year I was a rebel. And I was with everyone. If someone came to prove me or my brother, I would fight with him after. Or I would say it was great. And this year I stopped. Because after they told me to come here all the time. And so I wanted to stop. So that they are more contrary. Why did you get angry like that? Because...
My dear-père had made me bad at my mother, and I wanted to blame him. And I didn't want to let him do like my mother did. Sometimes he hit me. where they hit us and my mother ended up with blue. I saw some scenes and some I didn't really see them. I heard them. My mother was hiding and sometimes she decided to leave with our grandparents so that we didn't see it. Have you also had blue on your body? Yes.
Do you feel that your body is still marked by all these stories? A little. In any case, you wanted to protect your mother and you wanted to... protéger ta maman. you All right, go ahead. Cher Flemme, j'espère que tu partiras un peu ou totalement un jour. Tous les matins, mon père essaie de me réveiller. Ça peut prendre 15-30 minutes. D'autres fois, j'aimerais bien te garder. Rien faire, c'est bien. Mais on peut se fatiguer de ne rien faire. Mais on se fatigue de ne rien faire. Oui.
It's been a long time I've got a flemme. I've got a flemme for about 8-7 years. If the morning I'm going to take some cereal with milk, it's going to wake up. And sometimes I don't want to wake up. When I wake up, I tell myself that it will still have to wait for 12 hours before I return to sleep. And so 12 hours is long. My idea of phlegm was because I had phlegm to write this letter.
Especially because of the crayon. Because I was fatigued. And that my bag was by the ground. It was really, really by the ground. So I had to search my bag. In other words, I didn't find it in my bag. When I was looking for crayons, I didn't have any crayons. I was falling in my chair when I was open. So I searched my crayon, I took my crayon, I didn't know what to write. I cried, and it said, it's done. So after I wrote something, and...
That's how I found the flemme thing, because I had the flemme to write the letter. When I told myself that I had the flemme to do something, during that flemme movement... I have the conscience that I have to do it. It's something I don't want to do. My brain tells me to do it. But I tell myself, I'm fine, I don't want to do it. I also have an aspirator. I have to clean the salon, the kitchen, but it's so annoying.
You have to branch the thing, you have to chain it, you have to pass it everywhere. And sometimes it's not good, so you have to re-branch it, you have to start. It's long, it's an ennui. When, for example, I'm asking you to clean the stove at home. After that, my mother sees it and sees it and says, you're really a flim. I don't like it, it's true. I like the video games. I'm sitting in the canapé, I'm sitting there, I don't do anything.
I don't touch it. It's a flame. I think I'll always be a little flame in my life. A little, a little. I'd like to keep the flame, but half of what I have. Not anymore. Why do you want to keep it? What do you want to do? I don't want to do it. And especially when I don't do anything, I think. And so I have plenty of ideas in mind for the next day.
like the construction to do in the garden or something. There are plenty of things that I would like to do. For example, I think of the decoration of my room. For example, once I wanted to make my little stickers for my manga, to put them under my murs, and with my father, it was done. Well, it gives me ideas. Because when I'm a woman, I don't want to get bored. Sometimes I dream, I think. I look around me.
Dear Complexe, thank you for being here, I wish you to die in the past. I realized that accepting myself as I am is a force. and that my details concerning my appearance would only give me an ennui. I don't want to adapt to the beauty of a corrupt society. My appearance only concerns me. We humans have tendance to judge people according to their appearance. For example, if we had a papillon with a magnificent aile, we would be judged as a mess, as if we had a larvae,
L'opinion publique nous traiterait en héros. Donc, si la vie est pleine d'injustices concernant la beauté, mieux vaut ne pas se fier aux autres. Un gâteau qui ne rentre pas dans le moule a le choix de rester hors du moule. Je m'appelle Lena et j'ai 12 ans. Mes complexes étaient arrivés au début de l'adolescence. C'était il y a 1 ou 2 ans, donc quand j'avais 10, 11 ans. Je me disais que j'étais...
It's too large, you see. I was worried about my weight. You see, when the boys are adolescents, they're problematic. They said, stop eating the kebab. They said, oh, calm down on the kebab. At the beginning, I didn't respond to them, because I didn't like them either. I compared them to girls more fine than me. I told them, oh...
I have to be like her, like that, I will be like the others. You see? To enter into the troupeau, I would say. I didn't want to be... In English, in fact, on the black sheep, I don't know how to say it in French. The black sheep. Okay, I didn't want to be the one who was the one who was the one who was the one who was the one who was the one who was the one who was the one who was the one who was the one who was the one who was the one who was.
And it takes courage to move forward, we'll say. Is that your body changed since? No, it's just that I don't care about it. I love the food after, yes. Since you're in fifth grade, you've noticed on your weight, on your gabarit? Hmm, no. In any case, even if it happened, I'm going to fix it. In fact, it's just that when I'm in a mirror, I'm proud of myself, you see. I'm proud of myself saying that I'm not changing for the others. Oh, I'm not changing for them, you see.
It would not have been an enjoyable experience to do it for others. Because if I do it, it would be for me. I've learned to love my body like he is. I've learned to love my body like I am. Thank you. to Alice Fraze, professor of French, to Valérie Nissez-Houdard, the principal, and to the team of the College Aimé-Césaire of Vaud-en-Velin for the confidence they gave us.
Merci aussi bien sûr à Charlotte Desligneries pour l'idée de cet épisode et le beau passage de relais. Enfin, merci à tous les élèves pour ce qu'ils ont osé nous partager pendant ces deux jours d'enregistrement. Another train delay, not a problem for Claire. Phone in hand, ready to play the free Coral Rewards Grabber. Loose wrist, firm grip. Taxbook. Oh, look at this. She's won herself 50 coral coins for free. But now what to spend them on? Free spins or a casino bonus? And...
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