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90. Peace is the Referee

Nov 12, 20211 hr 55 minEp. 90
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Summary

This episode explores the profound revelation that Peace is not merely a feeling or state, but the person of God Himself, functioning as a referee or bouncer in our hearts and minds. Drawing from the 'Unleashing Kingdom Emotions' course, the discussion contrasts worldly calm with God's inner knowing, highlighting how this peace is an active presence, distinct from happiness, that operates even in turmoil. The hosts also touch on the importance of revelation, healthy journaling as conversation with God, and understanding the unique 'frequency' of peace in combating anxiety and the enemy's work.

Episode description

Pastor Nathan Kassas is currently hosting a course called, "Unleashing Kingdom Emotions," and this portal follows up after his class. In this session, we discuss the revelation that Peace is God. Peace is not something you put on or off. Peace is God as a referee of our hearts. For more information about this course, please email us at info@torrcnyc.org.

Transcript

Introduction and Welcome

Mmm, mmm, mmm a picture of me me doing the robot they can't see us at the moment because i don't know if someone's in the back yeah yes i can see you oh wow I don't have a picture to turn the thing off. Hello, everyone. Hi. Hi. Oh, that was so bright and lovely. You are now listening to... I am your host, Shanae Anise, and of course I have the wonderful leadership of TORC New York, starting with Pastor Nathan Cassis. Hello, friends. Great to be with you tonight.

Dr. Tony Casas, a.k.a. Master Pastor. And Dr. Robin Casas. hi guys wow first of all may i ask because these portals will be used in your classes so let me know if i have to be a little bit more professional or can i okay wonderful we have crystal on too hi crystal um with that being said We have a lot to talk about, but we're just going to channel it into one topic because the Lord can talk to us when we're listening.

But we're going to ask him, what is he saying? What is the thread of Woody saying today and tonight? Okay? For you lovely Portals listeners. If you're not in Kingdom Emotions...

Kingdom Emotions Course Invitation

Ask the Lord to give you a kingdom of motion about it. Okay, that's all I'm going to say. I'm not going to say anything else. Condemning you is not a kingdom emotion, so I won't participate in that. I won't say I told you so. And I won't say I told you so. That's definitely not from the kingdom.

But the compassion stirring up within me. She's compassionate for you. Yes. To not miss out. Exactly. There you go. She's impassioned to warn you. Exactly. It's leading me to action to tell you that you should be in this class. There we go.

Celebrating Leadership and Pulpit Ministry

but alongside of that class we of course had sunday service which was taught by pastor tony yes Master Pastor Tony. Congratulations, by the way. I don't know if I officially told you that. Thank you so much, and thank you for all your support from my wife and the team. They really encouraged me to go for it, and here it is. I've finally earned a doctorate. Right. Of what? Theology. Theology. The study of God. I've got a d.th before my name.

Wow. Do you feel any different? But anyway, we'll see what the Lord does. Has your emotions changed since you had that picture now that you're a doctor? Yeah, I think so. I think my picture's enlarged a bit. Oh, wow. Good. I think we actually... Talked to him this week and we said, now you can afford to go ham at the pulpit. Go ham. Go ham. Yeah, I think so. That means no more making excuses. Please forgive me for being truthful. I don't want to offend you.

Now, you need to offend this. Heighten emotions. Offend my mind so you can get to my heart. Yeah. Wow. It's farting words. No, Pastor Tony is definitely well-deserved, man. I never... Sorry for all my other passes, but... These pastors take the icing on the cake on that one. But I just always thank you for your leadership and your honesty from the pulpit and your transparency from the pulpit because it has definitely sowed some healing and a new excitement for the word.

that i'm working towards really it's good to get get excited about the word yes because We're adding to the world all over the place at the moment and it's making me want to cry. It's like you think, oh, well, these guys are on fire for God and I'm not judging them. And then they bring out some unbelievable doctrine and you go, wow.

Pastor Tony's Unique Delivery and Pictures

Okay, I just got to scrap everything now. Yeah, yeah. It's really, really sad. Yeah. And speaking of pictures, Paris Toney, you definitely have a way of delivering the word with such a unique picture. It's like we can see like, oh my gosh, I really see that happening now when you say it, even though it's like you're literally reading a word. It's just the way the Lord has blessed you to give us a picture with that.

um so that it lands so thanks i was reminded this afternoon of a certain picture that you imprinted on my Concerning kingdom emotions. Yes. And believe me, that's an indelible picture in my mind now for the rest of my life.

Recap: Emotions in the Kingdom

I hope my picture back was not too horrific. No, no, no, no. All we're talking about is Pastor Nate has been teaching us so much in depth. study on emotions and how they're placed in the kingdom and that for years and years and years we've been told to in many ways deny our emotions because God's not emotional, right? Well, the truth of the matter is that the Lord himself is spirit, soul and body, just like he created us. And so he has emotions, he laughs, he cries, he...

He gets angry. But all of that is based on his goodness, not on human weakness like we have to, you know, siphon out. So based on that, I don't know if you want me to...

Need for Revelation and Prophecy

kick off? Is this the right time? Yeah, share on the need for revelation. That ties in with emotion. We need revelation to facilitate godly emotion. Well, last week after your first class, which was just a...

you know mind-blowing and then tonight but last last week you brought out about how god's intention is is really what the prophetic is all interwoven in You know, what Nate was explaining to us was that prophecy is God's way of describing or telling us his good intentions for us, his plans for us. And so when Pastor Nate said that last Wednesday night and I was attending his class, something in me got sort of stirred up because he said that...

Faith and God's Intentions vs. Self-Effort

Those good intentions are the basis for our faith, okay? And so it made me think about faith in general. We talk about our works or God's works. And if we don't get a revelation from God about what his intentions are, then we're engaging in our own works because we're assuming. And so last Sunday I was sharing with the body here in Talk New York that prophecy is literally God's way of being the author and the finisher of his works in our life.

And my example was with Abraham and Sarah and how they had this good idea that Hagar would be a surrogate mother for the promised seed. Well, the only problem with that is God was not in it. And so when Abraham wanted God to use Ishmael as the promised seed, the Lord very... sort of decisively said, no, I will establish my covenant with Isaac who will come from your wife, Sarah. So my point was this.

If we don't get a revelation from God about his will and his plan and what he wants us to do, then everything else is self-effort. God only backs what he... starts, what he actually begins. And so the prophetic is God's way of being the author and the finisher of the prophetic word or his works. And so if you haven't got a revelation from God about his will or about what he wants you to do, then you are running the risk of doing your own works.

And therefore, that's why there's confusion, there's frustration, and all of this stuff gets, you know, packed on the process because all the while you're unsure whether you're doing God's works or your own.

Revelation Comes in Many Ways

Now, it's a very vast subject because, as you know, revelation comes in so many ways. It comes through dreams. It comes through prayer. It comes through the prophets, prophecy. a combination of these things in whichever way god wants to mix it together he he will let his mind be known and this is why not one person in the body has the whole revelation about anything

Otherwise, we wouldn't need each other. So God will give a prophet most of it. Then he'll give you some of it as a confirmation. And then there might be other witnesses to that in the body, whether it be... you know people that are leadership or whatever god has ways of confirming his good intention for us and he wants it to be that way so that we are relying on the whole body

Relying on the Body: Journaling Deception

and not just ourselves. Because you mentioned tonight, you know, even in the journaling, the potential for deception gets greater if you don't share your journal. You know, if you get off track... a little bit and it goes uncorrected that can be a really big big mistake you know if you leave it unattended so again the point that we made on sunday was um

unless you've got the revelation from god on what his intentions are then you're more than likely in your own works and therefore god can't back it god does not want to bless Ishmael ministry. Yeah and I'm glad you brought that out Sunday because that was one of the questions I was drawing out or attempting to draw out at our last portal but we weren't.

that subject at the moment but your your word kind of gave some clarity to the question of like again always asking like wait is this part this work that I'm doing right now part of

what the Lord wants to do. And I feel like that's a part where I tend to stumble. And I think the center of that stumbling could be of me not going back to the lord constantly at every move to say lord is this how i should do it instead of making the assumption to say well you said to have a business so then therefore do all the business things you should be doing you know what i mean it's like but wait

Like you don't need to do everything at once or you might not need to do it that way because the Lord has a different way for you. So that helps. That definitely answered my question from the last week portal as well.

Understanding Faith: God's Work, Not Ours

Thank you for that. So the question about, look, some saints believe that walking by faith is hard. Only if our understanding of what faith is is wrong. The reason why I say that is... I mentioned on Sunday as well that when we had our spiritual eyes open to believe on the Lord Jesus, that was the work of God. That was not our work. God opened our eyes. God planted a seed of faith in Christ Jesus in our hearts. And then we participated in that revelation and we ended up...

You know, confessing our sins and asking Christ to be our Lord and Saviour. This is what Paul means by you're saved by grace through faith, not of your own work. It's the gift of God, right? So that puts the emphasis on God doing the work. And so I said on Sunday the same thing. The way we were saved was by God's grace. It's His work.

Hearing God Correctly Is the Real Labor

And then every act of faith after that is also God's work. So the real labour is hearing God correctly. That's the real labour. Because once you've heard God correctly, God does the rest. You see? If you've heard God, then, because I often pray this prayer, I say, Lord, what do you want to put in my heart?

Personal Examples of God's Guidance

to believe for because i know if he puts it in my heart then he's going to give me the ability to believe for it and if he's going to give me the ability to believe for it he's going to supply everything that i need to make it a reality after I start believing for it. In fact, I've said this many times before, the Lord did it with our apartment, the Lord did it with our car.

He's done it when we've traveled overseas. You know, I've had the Lord say to me, go to the, like I was waiting on a visa stamp on my passport.

in 2017 or 2015 in malaysia i forgot to get my passport uh stamped with my visa and so when pastor wendell and i got to the airport i couldn't get on the plane wendell could get on the plane but i couldn't and i spent an extra week in malaysia and i remember when i put my passport in they gave me an email uh to you know to use to inquire about how long it would be before my passport would be available

And to this very day, I haven't got an email telling me your passport's ready. Oh, wow. Really. So the day that I was expecting it to come, the Lord said, don't wait. Just go to the office where you're supposed to pick it up and it'll be there. And I'm thinking, Lord, am I hearing this right? You want me to go without me getting the email? And he said, go. And sure enough, I was the first one there.

And it was there. And I was on a flight that very night back to the U.S. So, again, he started. He starts the faith. He finishes the faith. Yeah, I think, first of all, let me get you.

Insecurity and Returning to God

So I think that's what now I think about it, just even on my own journey, that's what makes me insecure because I start to take it into my own hands in my work.

and then i get insecure about it and they be like lord what should i be doing freaking out when it's like wait i didn't even go back to you my bad i'm sorry lord lord what shall we do in the next step you know and I know we get wrapped up, but I love what you just said too about like our understanding of faith is also something to look into.

Promoting the Sermon and Resources

But man, that word was good. Guys, it's still up on Facebook if you guys want to. check it out play it back regurgitate it we were talking about the regurgia swallow it chew it get the nutrients to bring it back up it's also available um in our new app yes and also on youtube the full service we only put the sermon on the app but The worship, there was a powerful moment in worship, prophetic songs. Yeah, it was wonderful.

Yes, when are you going to believe? I'm also blessed because the app has the audio only if you need it. Is that right? Yeah. Because I've been bugging Nate about getting it all up on Spotify because when I'm driving around… I can't look at the video. I can only listen to the audio. So now I can do that. You can do it. I really like the app, by the way. Shania. Praise God. Shania is great too. She's part of her.

part of her um job description as well as being a host and facilitating other things when she works here she's great to go in and she takes all the sermons and She forms them into a podcast. And so when you listen, it's because of her hard work. Aw, thanks. And making sure to record everything. Are you up to date, Shanae? I haven't heard her. First of all, the last two Sundays we've been SRA. It's okay. And something else. Oh, no. We get the right picture. Get the right picture.

picture pastor tony what we've been doing the last three sundays no um but that's why we had events but um yeah i think this one was was i mean i believe the next few things coming out especially from the pulpit especially if it's on threads of the courses is definitely going to be interesting to say as far as like life-giving in a sense to deal with i just want to say some one thing about the course um

Kingdom Emotions: Applying Truth Differently

i'm not teaching things that people don't already know and um well i think anyway but what i said from the holy spirit tonight is and he revealed to me i'm teaching like a lot of the stuff i'm teaching people might already know But what I am teaching is a different way to apply it. Because they might have been applying it as a theoretical kind of framework for belief.

But now I'm teaching how to apply it to guiding your emotions. So it's like that prism of truth. It's like the truth that goes through the prism and it comes out many different...

Principle of Abiding in Christ

facets and colors, you know? But I think you're teaching it from a different angle. Praise God. You're teaching from emotions. When I taught from abiding in Christ, I taught... It was intimacy and... Yes. Yes, the principle of having Christ live within you for everything, not just for your emotions, but for everything. So it's basically when you say people know it, it's because they know the principle of abiding in Christ. And so it's like you're zoning in on one.

specific area whereas I taught the overall and I'm so thankful you did because everything we learn is always about coming back to that reality of abiding you know and I just want to plug

Healthy and Relational Journaling Culture

we might be able to put it on talk tv as a single session for those that aren't doing the course but need to have that kind of tool shania pastor robin just literally opened up so many keys with myself tonight on healthy journaling culture and relational journaling and I'm telling you that doesn't get taught in the church. It doesn't. Even in these prophetic circles, it's just go and hear God. And we gave a good seven points on how to keep journals about.

conversation um to not allow journals to become teaching moments but actually allow them to be relational moments you know and i love what you said at the end um dr robin where you said it's a love letter It is. You don't teach in a love letter. No. You receive. Oh, Jesus. It was so good, like, seriously, Pastor, what you shared about because...

Discerning Journal Content: Son to Servant

With some of our students' permission, we read out some journals, and they were really precious journals. But Dr. Robin was able to find that thread where the... The child of God goes from being a son or a daughter to servant and then even slave. You know what I'm saying? So it was really interesting because I know. She said, right, here you start out as child.

And straight away now we've gone back in to serve it. Because straight away you've gone from what God is doing and what God is showing you about himself. Excuse me. And now you've gone into what the end... Now the focus is... All on what the enemy's doing. Yes. And I said at the end you're a beggar. And then... Maybe you'll come back to being a son by the last paragraph. And then you were preaching to yourself. Yeah, it was so good. I think the biggest key for me was these...

God's Words in Journaling: 'I'm Excited'

these words that people are skipping over. Yes. What God says about when he says, I'm excited, you know. You wouldn't think that God would say he's excited. Excited for what? Yes, excited to go on the journey with you. But also he was excited about the cross with his son. Yeah, wow. You see, he was excited about that. Because it really comes down to why is he excited? I'll tell you why he's excited. He's getting his family back. We're coming home, saints. We're coming home.

That's the greatest excitement God can have, is getting his family back. And what I loved about the clarity that we brought to the students was that...

Journaling: Talking To God, Not About God

we move the students out of talking about God. Yeah. You know, I said to the students, you can't, in a love letter, talk about God. It's about talking to God. yeah you know and he doesn't want to talk about you he wants to talk to you too and a lot of the time we let god talk about us in our journals telling us and this is where we move into that religious kind of

Let me teach you about the right thing to do and let me teach you about... I think that's my style of journaling. Yeah, and it does come very, very succinctly, easily to leaders. Because we move into teaching moments very quickly where we want to get taught about God, but it's about talking to God. And so...

Because the course builds on journals each week, it's very important, you know. So we established a really, really good, I believe, foundation and framework. And I love what Dr. Robbins said where she's like...

Refining Journaling for Clarity

If you read your journals, half your journals, things don't need to be said that are being said. Like, you know what I'm saying? And so later on in the course, we actually have a challenge where we go from... five pages to one page, and then we'll go from one page to two paragraphs to one paragraph to literally one sentence. And I said to the students before you arrived, I said, unfortunately...

Our heart is not ready to hear the one sentence. So God will allow the multiple sentences. But I want to get to the place where he can be... One sentence. Yeah. And my heart is secure in that. I think it has to come to, again, talking about this, we talk for God instead of to God. Yeah, we do.

Talking For God vs To God

Wow. I think I need some of the other kind of medicine. I think my journals are too short, but that's probably for another subject another time. It'll grow, but I would just encourage every person... With Dr. Robbins' permission, I'd love to put that on Talk TV because it's such a needed resource of encouraging people around prophetic journaling. Even if you're outside the course, you can actually just take this.

Applying Journaling Tools Personally

single session and apply it to your personal journaling i've been journaling for years like years but even the tools that we gave tonight i'm going to implement because in the course i'm someone that can journal like five ten pages and just keep going but having the limitations and having those boundaries that were put in place i believe it really helped to deepen my journaling culture because it's a culture journaling is a culture um with the lord and it really got down to

the deep stuff that god wanted to say and um i actually even shared one of my journals with the students and i i showed them the progression in the conversation and i showed them the thread and i say look the lord just needed to say this one thing that's all he was saying the one thing the one thing the one thing and that's all i needed to you know kind of focus on and and hold on to

right and i even in my journal started to move into teaching moments and the lord had to bring me out and go no this is not a teaching moment teachings on sunday i think it maybe another key can be if we

Words God Speaks About You

Think about this. Another key is those words. Those words that wouldn't come off your lips about you. Oh, yeah, I love what you guys said.

Journaling as Collaboration With God

And yet they come off God's lips. Now, people would say, well, is, you know, I thought journaling was something. You know, you just keep writing. Well, it's not automatic writing, so you don't do that. You're involved and God takes your thoughts and he writes through them, you see. But... The thing is here with this is that those words he sneaks in. He sneaks those words like I'm excited.

God Sneaking Words Into Journals

You see, there were other words that he said in the journals. Yeah, there's that, like, I'm excited. One of the ones that he used in my journal was, I long for you. to have this understanding. Like, you know, I'm impassioned. Yep, there's another word. Or just revealing his heart. Yeah. And that is something. Okay, you're journaling, and if you just read it back, you go, I wouldn't write that. You snuck that one in, God.

And I think that could be far more exciting if that was the case because, you know, would you write, I'm excited? You probably wouldn't because... you probably weren't at that place where you could get that revelation to understand that God is actually saying he's excited. Yeah. I love what you guys said as well about

Journaling: Focus on God, Not Satan

just the one thing i guess what i took out of what you said in a summary especially when you're saying like he's not gonna always or just keep telling you everything the enemy is doing and i fall into that. That is really concerning me because a lot of journals that I read start with God, you know. And then we jump in straight to Satan and what he's doing. No, he's got to be the last. He can't be the first. Yeah.

Yeah. And that helped me so much see that because I was like, I wrote in a sub note and I told Pastor Nate this after class. And I was like, wow, it's like. When I see that thread, it's almost saying I know Satan's character more than I know my own Lord's character. That's very true because Dr. Robin was sharing in the course.

Journaling Reveals Perceptions and Needs Accountability

that the journal reveals a lot about who you or how you perceive God to be, how you perceive yourself to be, and how you perceive the enemy to be. And all of that is mixed together in... you know a few paragraphs of journaling and that's why it's good to have somebody who's a leader or someone that's you know you're accountable to to look through it find a thread in case that mixture gets a little bit

detrimental to your relationship with God. And I think this is really important to mention. Even leaders of, you know, seniority that have been journaling for years, they need to get, we still need to get our journals checked. I'm constantly getting my journals checked.

Importance of Journal Accountability for Security

And this is something that we learn in the course because the way I phrased it tonight was it's a part of the puzzle piece, but it's not the full puzzle piece. And so God's not going to reveal... of himself to you and you alone because he has to come through the body because when you're so zoomed into a situation or circumstance

or when you're so close you're very very like so zoomed in you can't see the bigger effect so you need someone outside not emotionally tied not emotionally involved like you would be looking in to give you the outward perspective you know and so many times in our journals we get so zoomed in that and this is where the enemy brings in a lot of deception because we think that our

our way, our perspective is the only one. And then we start to change it from relationship to direction, and then the direction leads us astray. And when it's... And when you get in that dangerous position of being the only one, it's very, very dangerous. But it's more than that. It's like it's very stale. It's like it's stagnant. You need someone to inject into it to bring life to it. It's like that first breath and then you need the second breath.

Scriptural Knowledge and Journal Depth

So you guys, one thing, you kind of touched on this, but I just want to clarify this one question as well. Knowing the scriptures and journaling. I know you were kind of mentioning like, you know, you don't want to be using that as a teaching moment. But do you think or know or however you want to answer this, knowing the scriptures also will help.

your journal either deepen or can, do you find that people can still have depth in their journal and have a pure character through christ even if they're not as familiar in scriptures to give people encouragement in either way yeah i think i think once you when you know the word of the lord and you know the word of god it only heightens we talk about heightening a lot

it only heightens the power of his character in the journal you know what i'm saying um i always find that the lord will use scripture in my journal to show me the power of it personally in my life. And then how it's coming alive through His Holy Spirit activating that scripture, you know, in my life.

Scriptures in Journaling: Activation and Conversation

like when i journaled in this course on um you know isaiah 26 and it was you know those whose imagination is stayed on the holy spirit or stayed on the lord he shall be kept in perfect peace Now, the Lord put that scripture in when he was talking to me, but then he said, this is how this scripture comes alive. This is how I want you to keep your imagination focused and stayed on me.

So it wasn't just an injection of I'm going to teach you a principle. It was this is how you're going to actuate it every day of your life from this moment forth with this revelation. I think that's a really, really powerful thing with scriptures. I think we can do what Dr. Robbins said. We can inject scriptures into our journals and get caught up in the scripture being the teaching.

Let me teach you about this word. But remember, it's a conversation. So conversation is always personal. It's not an instruction. No, it's not an instruction medal. that was so helpful and it's not a film a form you fill out but what we have to see with it as i said when i said it's a love story or it's a love letter When you're writing something like that to someone, you're not like you would be normally if you were writing something else. Do you understand what I'm saying?

It has a purpose, a specific purpose. And so you should become sort of more into it, more involved in it, more... out of your norm and into something deeper. Yeah. Yeah, definitely. Before we go on break, I just want to say this is something that I said and I think it's really powerful.

Journals Are Letters To God, Not Instructions

Journals are not letters to the church. Meaning it's not to the church of Nathan, I know your works and I know your fruit. That's not how God wants to speak to you. It's not the same kind of letter that Paul was writing to the churches as a letter of instruction and correction. But some of your journals are. And this is where we need to transition out.

into a relational dynamic because i've had journals in the past where if i read over them now it's literally like to the church of nathan cassus i know your works and i know your good fruit but i want to address this this this and this And that's so void of relationship. That's so void of conversation. But if you've got that relationship, if you've got that, then you can have that. Exactly. But that takes time. The relationship first.

then you can have that. Because then again, that's based on relationship. So again, as I said, it's a different type of investment.

Journal Authority vs. Scripture Authority

It really is. And, you know, me being the theologian that I am, you can't take your journal as the same authority as, like, the Scripture. You can't.

And a lot of people get caught up in that. Well, you know, the Lord told me, look, you know, this is what he said. Okay, but that is not... at a higher level of of authority than say the the word of god itself the the scriptures same rule applies to prophecy and any other revelation the bottom line is the scripture has to be our anchor and if anything is either in letter or spirit contrary to what the scripture is saying then you've got to lay it aside yeah

That's not to discourage people, but don't make your journals the do-all and end-all of your relationship with God. Yeah? It's God's way of communicating with us. And you'll find that your ability to hear the voice of the Lord will be enhanced the more you practice this gift. It's really anointing, isn't it? But again, we always submit our journals on occasion to our accountability partners or to leaders so that they can help us to maybe...

if there's a bit of an emotion that's going a little bit south or maybe you've got a revelation that needs to come back to the biblical principles. That's why the pastors are adamant to get... us all accountable with the revelations that we're getting, especially in the light of what's been going on lately with some of these doctrines that are coming forward. They're right out of space.

That's really scary. Every day I hear a new concept and I think, I used to think that person had great, great depth. And I'm not judging, but my God, the silly thing that was said, it's like all that depth, where'd it go? Into that one statement? Foolish. Wow.

Testing Revelation: Journaling Is Revelation

Well, you didn't plan to go there, but it was good to do a recap. Yeah, it was good. It ties in with Pastor Tony's word because journaling is revelation. Yeah. So there is a need for revelation. There is a need for journaling. But like Pastor Tony just said, with dr tony just said with every relation and with every relation revelation has to be tested yeah okay and i think that that's security i mean if i didn't have my journals checked it would be a very insecure place

By getting it tested, it's not control, it's actually security. Because, like Pastor said, you're able to get an injection of, well, here's the perspective outside. your world right now. It's okay to call us both pastor. You don't have to call us doctor. I just like calling him doctor because I haven't called him doctor for a long time. You're going to confuse people if you call us doctor one minute.

past doesn't it i know i do that all the time but once you get your doctorate finalized we can call the the trade doc this will be trade oh my gosh

Pre-Break Banter and Announcements

I don't think so. Three dogs. Three times dog. I think now we need to go to a break. Check our pictures right now. I think that's going a bit too far. Your kingdom emotions are wearing off. All right, guys, we're going to take a short break, see if Kingdom Coffee is open. You know, get to cheering and see if... we get some kingdom coffee around here and if you guys have any questions then feel free to post them in the comment section and we'll try to get

to them as we'll try to get to them. I'm not going to make any promises. We'll try to get to them. We'll read them. And if it goes with the Holy Spirit. flow and direction yeah yes you're knocking them off real quick these names yes but yours is doing that mine isn't doing that anymore so i need to play with your ipad to figure out why yours is doing that but it's staying

Maybe we need a doctor in the house. Yes, can we get a doctor, you know, or yours is already transitioning to the other universe. Anywho. We're going to take a quick break and we're going to invite up. Dr. Natalie. I mean, Pastor Natalie. Pastor Natalie. Pastor Natalie. Let's give us some runway music. Why don't you come? That's so, you get tempted to say a joke, but I don't think it's appropriate sometimes. Maybe another season, another day. Anywho!

Main Topic: Peace Is the Referee

Yeah, so we were just kind of recapping the first portion of Kingdom Emotions. But we do have a thread that we're going to continue on from this point. Ford. And that thread is... We're talking about peace. Peace. Peace being your referee. Peace. Very important today. Yeah, and... Very important today. It goes along with, I believe, Pastor Tony's first segment about the need for revelation.

And it also goes along with journaling because if you're journaling right, then you will be at peace. Yeah. And you won't be questioning or in contention in your spirit. I talked tonight about...

Peace as the Bouncer Guarding Your Heart

A lot of the times in our thoughts, we have thoughts coming in and in the counseling world, they call it input. You're getting input from a lot of sources. And we need to... uh remember that we've been given a tool by the holy spirit that is actually like and i gave the visual because we're all about pictures at the moment um that's like the bouncer at the door of your heart and at the

the door of your mind and and that bouncer is peace and peace is literally standing outside the door and it is granting entry or not I think that's a great visual you put up. Based on how those things will allow peace to work in your heart. So I told the class tonight...

Anxiety, Fear, and Focusing on Now

the thoughts that come in, you know, like we talked about the thoughts of the future. We talked about the difference between fear and anxiety and I can share that here. You know, fear is fear of the present, anxiety is fear of the future. And that's why, you know, in Philippians we're told, be anxious for nothing, but in everything with thanksgiving and supplication, let your requests be made known to God. Well...

How does that apply? And there's real key in that scripture of practical activation. I'll say this and then I'll hear the panel comment. And it's so good to have Natalie. back on with us i love having i was like oh sorry dad i just want to um praise that natalie is very wise seriously she'll say things pastor robin will let us know

You know, she'll just say things in the pockets that you least expect it, and it will be wisdom from God. And I think that's awesome. But be anxious for nothing, but with everything and by prayer and supplication that your request be made known to God. And the peace which passes all understanding of God will guard your hearts. So there's the word guard. Yeah, so it's like the bouncer. The guard? Yeah.

It's like the bouncer. Yeah. See, it's not something you're making up. It's actually in the scriptures that peace will guard your heart. Yes, definitely. So at the door. Multiple times. At the door of any, you know, function or something, you have a bouncer there, and they're guarding people coming in. So this is... If people really get that picture now...

They can see it in a different way. Well, you know, it's not a choice to just have peace. Peace has a very, very specific purpose. Yeah, and peace is not passive. No.

Peace is an active, active, active thing in your heart, and it's an active thing in life. But what's important about that scripture to do with anxiety, because a lot of people live in anxiety and fall out of... in that that resting state of abiding in peace because there's a key there in that scripture anxiety is fear of the future and a lot of the time our mind is focused on tomorrow

Whereas peace focuses on today. And, you know, and so how do you curb that? Well, this is what I said to the class tonight. You start thanking God for the now moments. Yeah. And stop thinking about the tomorrow moments. Because peace will say, hang on. Remember that bouncer. Peace will say, hang on, this thought's coming in. And the bouncer says, no, no, no, no, no, no. This is too far forward.

This is too far forward. This is too future. You can't come in. Bouncer says, nope, you're not allowed entry. Then the next thought comes in that's present tense. Yep, you can come in. And that's how the Lord allows peace to be that guard. Another word is referee. It's like the umpire. It tells you when you're off base or, you know, offside. And so I think it's really important because...

Peace Is Not Passive or Happiness

We have believed that peace is passive. And then here's the other dynamic that I didn't mention tonight, but the Lord's bringing it to my spirit now. We thought peace is happiness. And peace is not happiness.

Peace Is an Inner Knowing

Peace is an inner knowing. Please catch this. Peace is an inner knowing. All right? Happiness is what the world will tell you is peace. But you can be in a crazy situation with everything falling apart around you and still be at peace. Well, that's what the Scripture says, doesn't it? The peace of God.

Peace Passes Understanding

Why don't you tell us? Well, it passes understanding. It can't be a logical piece. No, it can't be reasoning. It's something, it's an inner knowing that God is in control and that... If you have a healthy trust in God... and you know his character and you've experienced his faithfulness, then it's like an anchor. You could be in a very tumultuous situation and still have this inner knowing.

that God is going to sort it all out. And I think all of us could do with more of that peace. So what's that scripture? There's a couple. You mean about peace? Yes. Peace, yeah. The Apostle Peter says that the peace of God that passes all understanding will guard your hearts. Actually, it was the Apostle Paul who mentioned that. This is why you're bringing up the bodyguard. Peace can guard your heart but it won't if you're trying to figure it out logically.

Anxiety as Humanistic Coping

And this is where a lot of our anxiety lies. And I want to dive in deep here, right? Because you said about anxiety being our way of trying to make... or trying to convince ourselves that someone's on the case yeah like i said tonight um worry is the humanistic way of coping with God's stillness and silence. and worry is I have to have some kind of closure. Yeah, it's like a fill-in. It's like a fill-in, to know that something's being done. So by me worrying, I'm reassuring myself.

That something's being done, even though I can't see it, so by my worrying, I can convince myself that, you know, there's progress. And this is why he says, no.

Jesus Saying 'Peace, Be Still'

Be still. But I want to go to this important point. I didn't get to mention this in the class, but I want to bring it up. Why did Jesus say to the storm, peace, be still? See, why didn't he get up and say, I rebuke you? Why did he choose those words? I want to open that up. I have an understanding, but I want us to dive in. You know, when he was on the waves, why?

I want to pick your brain, Dr Tony. Why do you think he said, peace, be still? Because that's a weird way to rebuke something. Well, he spoke... what he wanted the outcome to be he wanted the sea to be peaceful the winds that were throwing up the waves were possibly or i believe they were demonically energized Satan was trying to sink them, literally end his ministry and the apostles and prevent him from also delivering the demonic, which ended up being a gateway to ten cities in Decapolis.

He said two things, peace, and then he said, be still. So he basically said, this is the outcome that I want, which is peace. And then he commanded the wind and the waves to still themselves. So I'm really... I really don't have a theology on that. Maybe you could help me. I don't know. Go for it. Go for it. Can I just add? This is just a random thought. Because I believe sometimes, like you said,

Interpreting Jesus' Command to the Storm

We look for peace in the wrong places. And if I'm getting a visual of peace being like a bodyguard where he's analyzing or assessing this thought, assessing that thought.

To me it tells Me that peace needed a direction in the being still Because if you're if a lot of things are happening all at once Yes, so it's like giving peace a direction they were like I know that thought may be coming and even though yeah, you should tell it That's not here and that situation is coming and I know you should tell them You know that's not there, but I need you to be

centered right now in order to get the directive to go to the other side or whatever. That's wonderful. I've got one good spin on it before you do it. Maybe I'll hit it on the target. Go ahead, Dr. Tom. Maybe you will. If we picture the sea as our minds, right, I could connect it with when Paul says...

Not being tossed about by every wind of anxiety. I know he says every wind of doctrine there. But the word tossed about by every wind. It's the wind that stirs up the sea. And when you're being... being insecure and anxious, every negative thought that could possibly...

i'm gonna come from a different i know you add to that i think you're on the same way it's like your brain is the sea and the devil is just blowing up every scenario it's true it's negative and you're gonna die you're gonna go broke you're not gonna make it Maybe. I'm throwing that one in there. No, that's another facet of it. Pastor? Natalie? What do you think? Why did he say peace? I didn't do the force, so I can't control. Yeah, you can. That's a lie.

What Pastor Tony was saying to do is like declaring what it is when it's not what it is. I think I can probably see that. I think I just see the command of the Lord of of like his his his mastery of what of his creation or of what what of who he is over over you start you start you're starting to get hotter oh okay thank you jesus But that's how I see it. He's declaring it. Like he has the authority over that ocean, so he's declaring what it is. Yeah, but can I just say you're all diverting?

Here we go. Because we're talking about why did he say, peace be still. Right. You come from the sea and you're coming from God's creation. And where did you come from? I don't even remember. No, it's like the bouncer of giving peace a directive instead of being flittering here and flittering there. Let's go back to the word peace. Okay.

Peace's Presence and Power

Because that's what he's asking. That's the question he's asking. Why did he use that word peace? See, I've looked over the word again. Why? And then say, be still. Because the elements of peace and be still, they work together, you see. You've got to know that, you see. Peace had a power. It has a presence and a power that no one can understand. The peace of God beyond understanding of man. She's going there.

And so there was no need to rebuke it. There was only a need to say the word that would respond to it, you see. Peace is beyond understanding, you see. And you have to see the presence of peace, how powerful that word peace is. That's the key that I see. And that is why. Because peace, once was said, would be responded to because of its ability to bring that calm. Yeah. So to take it now to the final.

Peace as God's Voice and Frequency

because that's exactly what it is the frequency of the of the universe of creation is the voice of god which is love Yeah. Now you have to remember, he rebuked the wind and the waves as a personality. Yep. Right? So I believe, and it was taught to me through this course, By standing up and addressing that personality of the wind and the waves of his creation and saying, peace, be still, he was reminding the creation of the bouncer.

Because Satan stirred up the creation. Yeah. So even creation was being reminded, you are to be guarded by who I am, which is peace. And you've come from that, but I'm coming from the fact that when the thing that needed to be reminded was the atmosphere, that peace has that ability. And that power.

Wind and Waves Obey Peace's Frequency

Exactly. And that power. Because if you listen to the disciples' confession after, they said, who is this that even the wind and the waves obey him?

The wind and the waves on that day got a reminder of who peace is. Because Satan... because satan can come into creation he's in the atmosphere he can come into creation and stir it up he stirred up the waves he stirred up the storm and he was trying to use creation against the creator And when the Creator stood up on the bow of the boat and went, peace, be still, that wave recognised the very voice.

The frequency of that word peace. The very frequency that spoke it into existence. And it checked itself. It went, whoa. But Pastor, it had its own frequency. There it is. It had its own frequency. This is it. Peace at its own frequency. If he had said, I rebuke you. It would have been a different frequency. It would have been a different frequency.

Trials Respond to Peace's Frequency

And it would have been something, maybe a different result. But that frequency brought about what it is, peace. And so why I tie that in is because every trial... And every circumstance and every test has a frequency that can only be triggered by peace. It has a wind and a wave that can only be triggered by the frequency of peace.

It can't be triggered by warfare. It can't be triggered by spiritual intercession. It can't be triggered by you getting down on your knees and fasting for five days and praying. There's something in the trial that will only respond to the frequency of peace. So pastor hit it right on the head. Because you ask that question. But we seldom find that frequency. See, I listen to words. And so the thing is, the key is, it's beyond understanding.

See, you said it. Peace can perform in turmoil. It has its own frequency. No, you got to repeat that last, Jim. Say it again. Peace can perform through a turmoil. Come on, Prophet. It does because that's why he says you can't understand peace that God gives you. That peace that God gives you is beyond understanding. And you could be in the middle of turmoil and peace has a frequency that you're not going to understand that just brings a calm. But it's not...

Peace of the world. It's the peace of God. And this is what I was trying to bring the correlation. We think that the frequency is happiness. Yes. Catch what I'm saying. We think that the frequency is happiness to end the trial. But you can still be going through and have peace. And peace will trigger something in that trial that only peace can speak to. So there's a frequency of that wind and wave that will only respond to peace. It won't respond to anything else.

Peace Limits the Work of the Enemy

And remember, God puts those things in place because trials are so that we are schooling for ruling, training for reigning. We've got to get that bigger picture. So I'm glad the pastor said that because when Jesus stood up, he reminded that wind in the wave, hang on, I'm the voice that spoke you into existence. And I'm the voice that's causing you to vibrate right now. And I'm just going to remind you, I'm going to guard you right now and show you your limitation.

So peace is very involved with bringing the limit of the work of the enemy. It's...

Frequency Analogy: God Lives in Praises

It's limiting it. It's good. Yeah, limiting it. But it's like the scriptures that speak about he lives in the praises of his people. Now... And I'm not changing the subject, but I'm showing another analogy. And that is that, you know, we praise. And we wonder why we praise. because the frequency of him living in the praises is there.

You see, and we say, why do we praise? Because you want him to live in that place. When you're praising, you want him to live in that place of praise. So it's a frequency again. I'm still on the place. Pastor Tony's going to go and move the car. Peace out. Peace out, Pastor Tony. Peace out, Pastor Tony. Take your chair with you, Pastor. Take your chair, Pastor. Take your chair.

Take the chair. Listen, I am living off of this analogy of them being in a boat. We had last week where I was just thriving off of that visual of them being in the boat. yeah going to the other side now we're talking about the peace and the freak listen wow of course there's purpose i love it

Purpose in God's Words, Peace Limits Satan

There's always purpose in what the Lord is saying. He doesn't just say something because it's a good idea. It has purpose. It has solidness about it and it has answers. And the fact that, you know, everything in Scripture, it's prophetic, you know. Like I said, we have to change our understanding of peace. Peace is a bouncer. It's a limiter. It limits Satan's work from moving forward. There's another purpose of it. It doesn't stop it.

Because that's where your warfare comes in. That's where your authority comes in. But it limits Satan's work in your heart and in your soul. It says no, no more entry. But if... And I don't like always bringing Satan into it because we can see enough in what we say God sees in it. But in this, when that frequency... is released we mightn't understand it because it's it's we don't have that understanding of it but the devil knows he knows straight away

That frequency hits him right between the eyes and his ears begin to ring. That reminds me, sorry, let me let your gym finish. that reminds me of something we talked about one portal oh wow between the eyes but in the ears ringing frequency could cause a ringing in your ears

Do We 'Fire' Peace? Peace Is Not Put On

Oh, Lord. Do you think, and this could go to anyone here, about us having peace? Peace is there, but do we, I'll say fire a piece. Do we fire the bouncer in scenarios? Meaning, we talked about wavering.

in our emotions from that knowing we tend to start to wavering waiver so is that something that because we don't understand peace can that be deceived out of us does that make sense i'm trying to ask it in a way that makes sense i was i was thinking when you guys are talking sometimes i can have like um

an idea or i've analyzed like we're talking before i've analyzed the way through a situation but it's not at peace yet i know like it would work out this way but it doesn't seem like it's come from a the holy spirit or from a peaceful place in me so i feel like i have to stop and still wait and get the peace from the lord before i move forward even if so instead of firing

that um peace i would instead go to the peace until i can get the confirmation or like the more creative solution from the holy spirit right so i guess Your example just brought up the question. Peace is not something you put on. Thank you. Thank you. This is what I'm trying to bring home. You're saying you put it on. You do not put peace on. It's like it's released. Right. It's released into the atmosphere as a frequency. Right. Because peace is a power, a power word.

Peace Is a Power Word

If you want to say that, it's a power. Love's a power. Peace is Jesus. Yeah. He's the peacemaker. This is what we've got to bring our reality and our...

Peace Is a Person, Jesus

concept of peace we do put on peace yes and then we take it off and you don't put on jesus and take him off right you don't put on love and take it off right now we've separated peace from jesus And that's why when he said, again I say, that's why when he said, peace, be still, he was literally saying, him, me, I'm peace, now be still. He was just using his own name. against the wind and the waves. Yeah. And reminding them. And the word, you know, he's peacemaker.

So he makes peace. But he's the maker of peace. Can you see? He's peace. But he's the maker of peace in the atmosphere. He's the maker of peace. You see, even you could say, you know, the Beatitudes, it's as blessed are the peacemakers. Now, okay, for they shall see God. Wow. He's tied up, peace is tied up with God's appearance. Yeah. Wow. You see what I'm saying? Yeah, that's good. But then, of course,

you know, we added a little bit just in our hearts to the word everywhere. Yeah. So the atmosphere everywhere. When you see God, you see that. Frequency of peace everywhere. And to say what you were saying, Chanel, at that land, one thing that I didn't mention tonight but it's very, very important is...

Peace Is Not Temporary, But Constant

because peace is not put on and because peace is not temporary catch what i'm saying peace is not temporary but we've treated it as it is that it is temporary it's a state that we go in and out of or a goal that we want to attain. Peace is a person. And because of that, the thing that kills peace is when you try to live in it periodically.

rather than live in constant peace. That would be like living in and out of God, the Lord, every day. Lord, I need your peace right now. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What, you don't need it, 27, 24-7? Just like a jacket. I need to put on a jacket. of peace right now. Yeah, you get to the, and see, again, let's go back to the model. Jesus deliberately, deliberately went to the bottom of the bow of the boat. Now, why did he go to the bottom?

Jesus Sleeping in the Boat: Trust in Turmoil

When you do a study on where he actually slept, he went to the bottom of the bottom of the boat. It's not easy to sleep at the bottom of the boat. But he's there sleeping. He says, and yet they're worried about flooding. They're worried about, you know, being, you know, capsized and overturned by water. So the bow is usually going to be the first place that gets flooded, right?

So what's Jesus saying through that? He's saying in order to get peace, he's got to go to the place where you fear the worst of the worst of the worst of the worst. And you've got to trust him. that he's able to fall asleep there and still be in control. And we know that as he was in the bow of the boat, lying at the bottom of the boat...

That's where the water congregates. Exactly. When something goes over, you know, it always congregates. It's the hardest part to get the water out of. Yeah. And he's lying there, so guess what? He was probably swimming in water. Yeah. But the atmosphere for him was full of his presence of peace. There it is. You know? And so...

Peace From Within: The Inner Referee

It's not something we do. It's not something we put on. It's not something we attain to. It's all about you can't understand it. It's beyond your understanding that peace of God is beyond your understanding, beyond mine. But that which he created, the wind. The water. Even the devil had to shut his mouth because peace was a frequency that got ringing in his ear.

Didn't bring in the disciples' ears, but it certainly rung in the devil's ears. And what's interesting is that, again, I go back to the bow of the boat. How does that apply to your life? Usually God... has to take you to the most volatile part of where you feel like he isn't going to show up yes to bring you peace come on i'll say it again say it again

Peace Resonates in Your Deepest Fears

see you want we we think peace comes at the at the surface level please catch what i'm saying we think peace comes on the surface level where the ships you know sails are With all the wind, but usually God has to take you deep, deep, deep, down, down, down, right into where the water is overcoming you and you feel like you're going to drown.

for you to activate the frequency of real peace because it's down there where he's saying it's okay child we can go to sleep i'm in control i said i'd get you to the other side so go to sleep with me And the other thing is... And the other thing is that always astounds me that he's lying at the bottom. The water's there. Don't wake him. He's not awake by the water flashing and hitting his face or whatever. You see, and it wasn't until he responded to them.

And you know what else didn't wake him? All the crashing of the water and the boat and the wind and the waves and none of that. And then when he heard the disciples, he said, right. Okay, this is the frequency that needs to happen right away. Peace needs to be full of the air and the atmosphere. And I'm filling it with me.

Water and Wind Pick Up Peace's Frequency

When we say peace needs to be full of, well, we don't do it aside from him. He was the frequency and that's why the wind, the waves, the sea. This is our creator. Whoa, I get the frequency. The water picked up on the frequency. The wind picked up on the frequency. The waves picked up on the frequency. Whoa. This is peace speaking. And the boundary was set. Peace sets the boundary. See?

Peace Sets the Boundary

peace spoke to the creation that was being used by the devil to try and go beyond its set boundary yep so peace stood up and said peace and by him saying that he was saying The boundary's set. Now. Don't go any further. Now be still. Now be still.

Commanding Peace With Violence

See, I need a new picture because I don't picture him saying peace that way and that's probably the problem. No, he didn't go peace. Right, peace. He didn't rullaby it. Right. No, he said it with violence. He said, peace. He said, I'm reminding you, wind and waves, I spoke you into existence, and this is where you'll stop. And the wind and the waves, if they had a voice, were probably thinking, oh, my Lord. Wow.

Well, in a way, they did. They had a frequency. We're about to go beyond our boundary. We better do what he says. Yeah. He had a frequency, the wind and the waves. Can I just say one second? When you do that...

Using Peace in Spiritual Warfare

In your warfare, when you stand up and go, peace. Be still. You say to the enemy, I'm reminding you. You can't stir this anymore. You can't use people. You can't use the circumstance. You can't use my boss. You can't use people at church because the boundary's been set. Come on. Again, and you go back to... It's reminded by ringing it, piercing ringing in the devil's ears, in the demon's ears that are playing with it.

playing with the weather, playing with the wind, playing with the waves. Yeah, it certainly was. But it got the screeching sound of that. that sound, that sound, you see, was tormenting to them. It wasn't like they just said, oh, yes, okay, we obey. Right. You know, stop. No, everything that was involved in it with the frequency of that word peace, because he is peace, not a part of peace, he is. And so that frequency just tormented. It had to just stop. It was in torment.

Awakening Jesus in the Storm

Go ahead, Nina. Yeah, but just my question, I guess we're different to the disciples now because we know who Jesus is. But, like, because you're saying not to wake Jesus, is that, would they have been better to not wake Jesus and rode out the storm?

Or like if it's coming from us, like people that know who the Lord is now, would we be better to wake Jesus in faith, asking him to calm the storm? Like how would be a better... a better way to approach a storm knowing who the lord is i guess and he's i don't know if he's asleep because i know sometimes we need to awaken the lord's approach i don't i don't know well see um in this one it's different because he rebuked them

Jesus Waiting for Disciples' Faith

He said, your faith, where is it? He said, you know, and so I believe, I believe. I knew I'd get you there. Yeah, and Pastor Tony has taught this many times. He was waiting for them to get up. and rebuke the storm i was wondering that yeah okay but in order for them to do that they had to believe that they had the king of kings and the lord of lords in the boat with them not just a good man not just a good man not just another prophet okay

And that's why their confession was, who is this? That the wind and the waves obey him. So it's like coming out of that childhood faith, coming into more knowing your authority instead.

Moving Beyond Childhood Faith

it's only through christ obviously but here's the key of compassion jesus didn't get this is what i love about this story jesus didn't get woke by the tossing of the barrels in the in the boat

Disciples' Voice Woke Jesus' Compassion

He didn't get, you know, woken up by the wind and the waves. He didn't get woken up by the water that would have been at his feet, coming up to his knees, wetting him. What woke him up? Swimming in it. what woke him up the disciples their voice their voice you said this before so i would have cheated so their voice their voice that is the only thing that woke him up

And he had compassion on them in that moment because he said, right, you still haven't got it. You still haven't seen who's in the boat with you. Yeah. And by the way, just on a slide.

Storm Tested Disciples, Not Jesus

issue here they weren't the enemy even though everything was not coming against jesus it wasn't you see it was pushing the disciples to the limit. The devil. This is important. Say that. It was pushing the disciples to the limit. It was not. Like we're going to show you who we are, Jesus. It was right. Shake these boys. The enemy. Shake. Orders. Shake these boys. Shake them. You see? And that's what you need to see. Jesus could have just slept.

All the way through, they still could have got there. But the whole mandate was on those disciples. And Pastor, to back up what you're saying, again, we have to remember the culture.

Jesus Reveals Himself Through Innermost Fears

these were fishermen yeah exactly storms were the thing that they dreaded the most right they would have feared those storms they would have been you know experienced through them but in those days fishermen just like fishermen today go out in the sea and that's that's the way that they fear dying being caught left out at sea so he had to address again he had to reveal himself

through their most inner fear and say i'm greater than your most inner fear i'm peace and when i stand up everything is still everything is still, including your most inner fear, your most inner picture of what could be the worst going wrong. When I stand up, everything is still. And that's what, again, peace is that bouncer. It's the God, the peace of God, which guards your heart in Christ Jesus. And it's even in Isaiah that said, whose mind is stayed on you.

Mind Stayed on God Brings Perfect Peace

You shall keep him in perfect peace. The word there in Hebrew is imagination. Whose imagination is stayed on you. Their imagination wasn't stayed on him. So peace and presence of God.

Peace and Presence of God Come Together

Others come together. When you mention peace, there's always a leading to the presence of the Lord. Yes. Always. Wow. Wow.

Allowing Peace Brings God's Presence

Wow. This is what we're not seeing. And let's go back to how we can apply it today here. We have a lot of fear. going on in the world today. And I know fear, I see that fear can be the opposite of peace in a way, you see. And peace... is always attached to God's presence. And we don't realise that if we allow that frequency of peace in situations... Then we get the presence of God. Do you understand that? Yes. Yeah, because everything.

Keep him in perfect peace. And what's the scripture? Whose mind is stayed on the Lord. And the other part is... that just the, you know, the Beatitudes, which is, you know, blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall what? See God, see again, presence.

Peace Brings the Presence of God

It's the same thing. Do you understand? It's a frequency that brings the presence of God. Wow. This is really landing. Just think about that, but maybe we'll go for a break. Yes. Come back and let's get a drink of water or something. Yeah, we'll go for a short break because I want to draw out something else, Pastor Nathan.

Break and Questions

mention with that idleness because that really spoke to me today too and I think that's why we have so many winds and storms because there is a lot of idle minds there. that are creating these storms in itself. I know that, you know, I take that as testimony in my own confession. But anywho, we're going to go to a quick break. It'll just be very short. If you guys have questions, please. Start to post your questions in the comment box.

i can still see them dr robbins is disappearing into some i know i'm just nervous okay see if there is okay cool uh so we're we're alive we're awake we can see your questions so if you have questions oh and little alex had a question that i think it would be good for him to ask because it was a really good question um to give him clarity so guys we'll be right back In the next few minutes. No questions. I'm pushing all these burdens. Be still.

I mean, I don't know about you guys, but that definitely just gave me so much encouragement to look for him as peace. And again, that... bit about taking it on and off. It's just been a blessing. But I know you're busting at the seams, Dr. Robin. I just have something that I need to share. Go for it. It's to do with...

Words That Make the Devil Tremble

the word peace, okay? And I wanted to see some words make the devil tremble. Because there is a frequency of certain words, they can ring in the ear of the devil and torment the demons, you see. Because when that word...

Frequency of Words and God's Presence

is spoken, God's presence is there. Do you understand? Why do I say that? Because you can only, because there are certain words that you associate with God's presence. Certain words. And that brings the presence. And the devil knows that when that frequency of that word is spoken, the presence of God is there. Because we know Jesus to be the peacemaker. Okay. All right. Then we know that God is love. So when that's operating.

There's the presence. And there's other words. The faithful one. Faith. See, these words the devil trembles at. You see, he doesn't want the presence of God there. He didn't want the presence of God on that boat. He didn't want the presence of God in that water or in that wind or those waves. He just didn't want it. He was... wanting to get the disciples to jump overboard and that they wouldn't get to the other side. There it is. Pastor, what you said is so true because scientifically...

Kingdom Frequencies and Demonic Assignments

Each thing from the kingdom has a frequency that's different. Love vibrates at a different rate than peace. That's right. Peace vibrates at a different rate. than faith. I'm going to get real, real scientific. Fear vibrates at a different rate than rejection. I'm picking up what you're in your courses. I'm learning more and more. And so those, how do I frame this, Lord?

Those demonic assignments, because remember, hell is a counterfeit of heaven. So those demonic entities and assignments that have been programmed by hell. to counteract the frequency of vibration of peace can only respond and be broken when peace vibrates at that counteraction. frequency do you know what i'm saying it's like the visual is this on that day the devil sent specific hordes of hell into the wind and the waves he didn't just send any

No, it was... He sent specific assignments of spirits to stir up the wind and the waves because he knew. And Jesus knew what frequency...

Knowing What Frequency to Apply

was stirring up the wind and the waves and he got up and he addressed it. And this is important because if we're going to overcome, we have to know... what frequency the spirit is vibrating for what moment to stir his presence. Because sometimes we try to apply peace when it's love.

Panic vs. Peace

That's going to bring down the altars. This is why we have to concentrate on the word that was spoken. Because, again... Sometimes we try to apply love when it's peace. See? The opposite may be in the world you might say peace or panic. Yeah. And the panic was jump overboard. Yeah. Save yourself. Yeah. You see? That's not what the devil wanted. He didn't want peace. He wanted him to jump overboard. Because saying peace brought God's presence and he didn't want that.

He didn't want that. Because that, we're talking about him saying, I'll get you to the other side. You see, again, the presence of the Lord in that. You see, no matter what you're going through, I'll get you to the other side. I'll get you there. Remember I promised, I'll get you there. Peace, be still. I'll get you there. And what is, now let's move to the, we talked about intention. What is the intention of the peacemaker, peace, Jesus, in the middle of the storm?

A lot of Christians believe that peace is the end of the trial. Yes. Agree. If I could just get peace, everything will be over. Agree. But that wasn't peace's intention. Peace's intention was to reveal... who he was the presence of god so what is peace's intention in your life in your trial in your circumstance it's not to end your trial it's to Reveal His presence and His person. Yeah, His presence, yeah. His presence first, then His purpose second. But we've made it.

If I could just get peace, everything will be over. No. That's not what peace is about. And that's when we stop that thing and say, well, in the middle of turmoil. So turmoil can happen. And you can experience the peace of God. So just because you're experiencing the peace of God doesn't mean the turmoil on the outside is going to stop. And I apply it to today's situation.

If you're waiting for everything to get normal again, to have peace, it's not going to happen. If you're waiting for everything to go back to how it was and no more... you know fighting these mandates and no more You know, losing this and no more having to be challenged with this to have peace. No. Peace's intention is to reveal who he is and where his presence is. Peace is not going to end the trial for you.

it shows that means we have to be the peace so people can see the light basically yeah wow where they are who jesus is yeah because otherwise you're treating peace like an escape And it's not. Peace is not your escape. Well, it's even a bit more than that. We are not the peace, but we have the peace within us, the maker of peace. We have peace. in us. That's what we, rather than be it, because that's too much like religion again, but we need to allow.

Allow and work with the peacemaker to come forward. And flow through us. And flow through in the situation we're in. In that turmoil situation, let that peacemaker walk through. But where does he come from? From within us. He's not going to come beside us and he's not going to come flying down from heaven and he's going to come from within us. Like that river of living water bubbling up from within us. And on an emotional level, going back to this level, it's from within you.

Please catch this. It's so important. It's from within you that the referee stands up, not from without. Yes. So that means it's not from what you see based on your five senses that you determine what is a peaceful thing or not. It's from what comes from bubbling up within you. And the Lord gave me this while I was in the bathroom. I said, Lord, he said, Nathan, peace that comes in pieces is not peace. Because my presence doesn't come in pieces.

My love doesn't come in pieces. My hope doesn't come in pieces. I am love. I am peace. I am hope. But God is not in pieces. No. And so he's not a piece of anything. Nope. He's the whole portion, you see. But this is so important because it always leads back to abiding in Christ. All the time. There's no other way. Man, I mean, there are many. pictures going through my head about this and just but it's I just sometimes also feel like again that the way we I'll say share peace

Or the world share peace. Because I know a lot of times we're trying to, I'll say, convince others to have peace during this storm, but that's not the same thing. But peace is not the word that we... that you apply out there. Right. Peace is not, you know, peace is not the word you apply out there. Peace comes with presence. Right. You can't separate them, you see. But they're always talking about calming. Yes. Calming the situation. They just want calm. They just want ease.

yes yes that's you know yes ease is not peace calm is not peace it's the knowing yeah it's the inner knowing peace is the inner knowing and that's why it is the god it's the bouncer For your thoughts, especially. If you let peace be the bouncer, it will let you know what to think. Oh my goodness, that analogy helped me so much. Because it'll say, nope, sorry, you can't come any further.

you're not going to encourage me you're not going to let me do what i need to do so i'm kicking you out right yeah love faith hope yeah go and bring your friends come on all right let's have a party again you know you use this the picture of the bound You know the... Referee? Yeah, no more than that when they... Bouncer. The bouncer. You use that picture, right? But we don't bounce ourself.

It was that which comes from within us bounces anything from coming in that is not beginning a presence of God. I love that. It's blessing me so much. I just keep getting vivid imagery of it. I love it. Well, guys, I mean, we've been going for some time, so I just wanted to check in to see what... you guys are feeling led to do i had mentioned when you were gone um passionate about that idleness

in the mind, but I am sure that can be saved for another time because we're going to need to talk about that eventually. It was the one when he was saying about, you know, we... we are too idle in our thinking in a sense oh yeah that's that's tied to not having peace because we're so yes we're so idle in our thinking that we're able to get anxious exactly yeah but i think we'll

we'll cover that in maybe another one right but i think this kind of fulfilled that as pastor robin was bringing out like pieces to him and his presence yep so that alone kind of just ties that in like then you have no room to be idle if you need to be in his presence yeah and if you need it be constant versus in and out so those gems in itself cancels all that no more idleness I don't think I have any questions now, I think. But we did have little Alex that had a question about...

Something. He told me, and it's in my laptop, but I think he said he remembers. So we're going to invite... He wants to give the question. Sure. He wants to give the question. So you can use... Yeah, there you go. My question was, how is the devil's faith fear? How come sometimes we believe in his faith, though? So what he asked was, yes, how is the devil able to have faith, which is fear, but yet be fearful of God? Say that again.

How is the devil, in his terminology, able to have faith, which is actual fear, but yet be fearful of God? The devil be fearful. Yes. So how can he have it? In one sense, it's faith because we give him that. But in another sense, he experiences it as a negative thing. Because... You have to understand how things work. Fear is like a currency that the devil has. We have love.

He has fear. Okay. You can't work with nothing. You've got to have something to work with. That's good. So the devil has things that he works with. And fear is one of his currencies or one of what we would call the negative of faith, fear. So he works with fear like God works with faith. Okay. Now, I hope that helped. Yeah. Now, the last part of that is you said something else. What did you say? How can Satan fear God if he has fear and faith? He has faith and fear.

He has a faith in fear. Yeah, if Satan has fear as his substance of faith, how does he fear God? But his form of faith is not our form of faith. He just believes in himself. Okay? So he's deluded to believe in himself. So it looks like faith, but it's not. But the way he works with fear is if he can make everyone fear, it works just like God. If God can get everyone to have faith. Miracles take place. If he works with fear, he can make people submit to him.

And demons do what he wants them to do because it's an action. You've got to have action. So whether it's a good thing or a bad thing, it's a form of action, something that you have to work with. You can't work with nothing. The devil can't work with nothing and neither can God. I hope Dad helped. So we can't believe in ourselves? Believe in yourself. You can believe in yourself because you have Christ in you. Yeah.

so what's the wrong way believing in yourself apart from christ is the wrong way believing that you have power that you can do it yeah and i go back to your other thing satan doesn't fear god no He complies with God. I mean, he does what he's told, but he doesn't have a reverent fear of God. He's always trying to push the boundary because he doesn't fear God.

But he has to work with something. But he has to work with something. So his form of faith is fear. He uses fear as his, he trade, the word is trade. He trades it. It's like trading baseball cards. Satan says, right. You give me that card, I'll give you this card. And how we're going to exchange it is fear. I'll give you fear to believe this and you'll give me fear to agree with it. Does that make sense? Okay. Okay? Good question. That was a deep question. Thank you.

I know you're probably going to need to portal soon, but it's all right. That was part one. No, I think we might have answered that, didn't we, Alex? Yes. Yes. Yeah. He always has follow-up questions after you've answered the first one, so that's good. That's what I mean. He's going to need a portal about it. We need to be able to be challenged and, you know, stretch with this. And I think that's sometimes probably a good question that adults would ask and they don't have the answer for it.

And he stood out there and asked the question. Yeah. So possibly now there's adults that are saying, gee, I'm glad Alex asked that. Then I didn't have to ask it. Right. That's okay, that's fine. Do you understand what I'm saying? I'm sure that... Glad Alex asked that. I'm glad, you know, I didn't have to ask it. I could just get the answer for it. Exactly. Like we have these questions, like these questions you really don't think about on a regular, but...

Like, you're like, well, I should be mature enough to know this. But sometimes these kids ask this question, kids ask, can I just tell you it's a lot of pressure? Because I'm like, oh. So let's go to the Bible together and answer it because I don't know what to tell you right now. But the devil definitely uses fear. He uses fear. He trains it. Yeah, yeah. But I don't know that he's pleased with fear. I think we all should think about that.

Because the devil's not pleased with anything. So he's certainly not pleased with fear. He uses. Yeah, it's no loyalty. Not even a loyalty to the word. Yeah. For him to be pleased means he would have to have love. Yeah. So he can't. No. Like I said tonight, there's no love in him. When we were talking about the journaling, I said to the guys, Satan's not going to tell you he loves you. No. He's not even going to lie to tell you that he loves you. No. To deceive you. To say love.

doesn't compute right Even this self-love. All his followers, there's no such word as love. You know, the facet of Satan and his character of getting you to think about yourself and live for yourself. There's no love in that. It's all about lust. It's all about you being the centre of you. Love says others are the centre. The biggest thing... So there's no contemplating Satan and love together. I was talking with Deborah the other day, and she said to me, she said, Pastor...

Why does the devil, you know, she was sort of saying... You know, he's like a fool. He puts himself out there. He's got to be in, he's got to have, you know, symbols and there's got, he's got to be up there in front and showing his... His plans. He shows his plans before he does them, you see. And so she said to me, she said, like he's a fool for this. But I tell you. This is a major key that the Lord gave to me the other day. He must be worshipped. He must be worshipped. That is the theme.

With the devil. He must be worshipped. That's what he lives of. Homage. He must be worshipped. That's why he puts it out there. That's why he shows it to you before it happened. That's why he totally exposes himself. And when it comes to the surface, he risks. You understand? When he's on the surface, when he's showing everything, he's risking everything. is exposure, but he's driven by being worshipped. Wow. There ain't no peace in that. Well, guys, I know. I don't know about y'all, but...

Are you at peace? I mean, was that all choppy and stuff? No, it was such a consistent thing. I think we've unpacked peace in a way that people have never understood it before. I feel like I'm walking away with peace right now. The world peace. The world peace is like, don't fight. Yeah, exactly. Calm. That's not peace. Right. Calm. Now that we cleared that one up. Burn and sage. Jesus will have you at peace and have you fighting. Exactly. See?

But no, that is so true. That's a thing too. Jesus will have you at peace and have you fighting. Not sitting down, putting your boots up, you know, feet on the couch. He'll have you at peace and he'll have you at war. I got this. Yeah. See, we didn't talk about that part. I'm still thinking peace. Like, oh, well, I've got to know it. And to me, that is a move of God. That's where it catches him in the neck. and tangles him up because he uses his vanity to catch him up. Because, you know...

We think sometimes that he stays down there and he's doing it all down in the dark. But true worship has got to come to the surface. And he risks everything when he does it. And thank God the Lord made it that way so that that puts us as the head and not the tail. Come on. I'm going to leave that last year, Malone, for now. Because, wow, just going to put it on us like that, Pastor Nathan. Thanks. Okay, we'll talk about it next week. Anyway, guys, this has been...

Another portal for you. May you come in contact with the peacemaker himself. And find that picture. We have a few pictures to look at. for our course and maybe we can add to this one if it if it's not already on there but what does him as peace look like in his name yeah sure practical assignment because i love being practical For those that are listening, feel the Lord saying to you, you need to find out what trial or what wind and wave.

is only going to respond to peace in your life this week. Because you're trying the wrong tool. Yeah. It's not that love is wrong. It's not that faith is wrong. It's not that hope is wrong. It's not being effective. And something is only going to give when you, and I'm just going to say this, like, go to sleep. like jesus did at the bottom of the boat knowing that he's in control that peace resonance will vibrate or you might need to stand up and say peace and remind creation

Who's the person that's spoken into existence? And that peace will guard and will limit and draw the boundary of the work of the enemy. what he's trying to do in our lives so i think that's really practical way of putting it into existence of god there yeah because that piece will bring the presence once the boundary is set the presence will be released

So I hope that encourages you. Active homework you can do. Ask the Lord which areas you need to let peace resonate that maybe you haven't, because I'll be asking him this week for that. Oh, my gosh. All right, guys. Well, thank you again for tuning in to Portals. Thank you. We appreciate your support so much. Even more so when you apply these gems to your life and we see true transformation. Until next time, bye-bye now.

He coming, he coming, I think, I think I did I think his sister, yeah Here he comes! Oh, that's good. Oh, go! Leave it down I'm happy. happy and you know it do all three if you're happy and you know it do all three If you're happy and you know it and you really ought to show it. If you're happy and you know it, do all three. Say goodnight. See, here's the perfect example. You can be at war, but be at peace. Yeah, exactly. All right, bye, guys.

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