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Hello dear listeners! Welcome back! We are back to the Pop Culture Junkie Podcast. This is going to be an exciting episode for the Pop Culture Junkies. Starting things off, I am Shauna and I am joined by my usual Junkie. Nicole. And it is my honor and pleasure to introduce all of you to our newest junkie, Olivia Rodi. We're excited to have you. Awesome. I am so excited to be here with you guys today. And forever more. You're not going anywhere. Shauna knows I am quite hard to get rid of.
I am just just latching on after all these years. I thought I had been trying to give a rash. I am just kidding. You are a lovely rash. Yeah. A welcome rash. I don't know if there is a welcome rash. Well, we'll take that as my intro. Shauna would describe me as a welcome rash amongst pop culture. Really here to give you all the CD conspiracy, all the blind items and the things they don't want to print. But yeah, I am really excited to be here.
Shauna and I are both big, Buffy the Vampire Slayer fans. Anything true blood. And, you know, slowly but surely I have convinced her to become a Swiftie, but she won't tell you that. I'm not sure if I'm going to take the title of Swiftie on yet. I'm like, "Swiftie Light." I'm like the Diet Coke. I'm like, "You're engaging with the idea of it." I am flirting with being a Swiftie. And then I'm going to convince you to be a little monster and get you on that Gaga train. I think you could do that.
I think you could do that. I like enough, you know, drag shows. We love a performance in this household. So, you know, ultimate performer. We love the guys here, popular, gentle, fast, fast. Absolutely, absolutely. So I know a lot about you because we are best friends. That's easy. But to everybody else listening and Nicole, what else are you into? What kind of shows do you like to watch besides Buffy and Taylor's? Who else do you listen to?
Yeah. So, you know, I would say quite a hodgepodge of different things, you know, when I was younger. I was really quite a Josie and the Pussycats girl. If you know, you know, that album is absolutely iconic. Most people I think would describe me as a horror movie obsessed, true crime lover. And then really just like quirky conspiracy theory girl here, you know, none of the harmful stuff. We don't need to go down a rabbit hole of Q and on.
But like the fun ones like Avril LeBene is a clone or those really silly ones where you can have fun and get lost in it. But overall, I would say anything witchy, anything spooky, and anything just gossip related. Because you know, a girl loves to gossip. Yes. Nicole is our tree prime junkie here too. Oh my gosh. I could talk forever without him. You're probably better than I am at it. I'm not like an expert, but I enjoy it. I just am like, so chronically online and I work from home.
And so because of that, it's truly like I just cannot not listen to like YouTube things and things like that. We had a whole episode years ago to dedicate it to like conspiracy theories. And one of them was the Avril LeBene has been replaced one. And then we had, you know, that two-pock is alive on an island. Do you remember any of the other ones we had Nicole? Yeah. Mine was Michael Jackson's still alive. Yes. It's always like an Elvis is still alive, like Princess Diana's still alive.
I liked the Katy Perry and a JonBenet Ramsay are the same person. That's interesting. That one is actually really crazy. Whenever you get into it, you're like, wait, what? You don't like tipping like this is bullshit. And then by being like, wait a minute. So you caw. No, I mean she did hate her parents, baby. Like, you never know. That's, yeah, that's pretty crazy. What's another one? Britney Spears is dead for sure. Sean is a big believer in that.
I got Sean to down this rabbit hole and then I just was like, I can't do it anymore. No, I think she's dead. I am deep in Britney TikTok for sure. I just saw this one. I'm sure you seen it too. It's like where she's like moving her hands in front of her face. And you could see her face completely changed and they're like, yeah, there's an AI filter on her. Like, it's a green screen behind her.
Like, the yellow color is in the background completely moved out of the frame and pictured doesn't even move at all. It's like, okay, I believe she's dead. I do. The follow up to that is someone super imposed Jamie Lynn on the part where like the eyes change and it looks exactly like her. Sean, I said to you, I don't think you're going to be able to do it. Yeah, you did. Okay. I said a shocked emoji like, oh, okay. But yeah, I was like, I was deep. It like brought me back in.
But, you know, one of the things I also love is really like tarot as well and like anything witchy. And so there's this celebrity pop culture readers names and for Dirty. And he does all these readings that end up coming true. And he is like a giant Brittany fan. And so he did one. And basically he was like, it's more so that she's like trying to like ruin her image so people can't like make money off of her. That was like his reading of it. But I thought that was really interesting.
You know what? I can totally see that because I'm not convinced that she's dead. Like I think it has heard dancing in the videos, but I think that they were all shot probably at the same time and a long time ago. The show post, like the same video over and over again. And like the same outfit doing, I don't know, it's weird. And then she'll post them like weeks later. So I don't think she's dead, but I think that she's purposefully kind of posting weird shit. I don't know.
She doesn't want anyone to have control over it. And so she's like fine, I'll just host things that people think I'm too cute for coca-pops for. Mm-hmm. One of the crazy things that I didn't really realize this at the time. So like when Frubert me first started, the initial beginning of it is she was like twirling and something like that. And she has a hat. And whenever she goes to put the hat on her head, there's like a tiny, tiny little help me on the hat.
And so that was, people saw that years and years and years ago. And then it started the actual Frubert movement. So it is kind of like, oh my gosh, she's actually sending its messages through these things, right? And so when you think about that and really look at it, it's like, okay, well she knows that she can send signals this way. And that her fans are going to watch and take it apart.
Yeah. Yeah, but I mean, if you could drugged on lithium for more than like six months, sans 13 years, you know, your brain's going to be messed up, right? Like your brain isn't the same. You've just ruined it, you know? So she's got that going on in trauma. And then it's also like, is there like this secret message she's sending as well? But the three of us need to like get together and find Brittany and solve this mystery. You guys are going to be like the pop culture junkie mystery machine.
Yeah. I love that. One, one really popular one as well that a lot of people aren't as aware of is the free band movement as well. So you've probably seen a lot of like news stories of like, bam losing his mind on his family members and he's broken out of rehab. Bambarger, yeah, from Jackass. And so he's had a lot of the same like really Britney treatment where it's like, he's crazy. He's like all this stuff, but it's come out that his family has been abusing his conservatorship as well.
How did he get into the conservatorship in the first place? Yeah. So when Ryan done a from Jackass died, bam went into like a deep alcoholism. So like he did need treatment, right? Yeah. They put him into treatment and then, you know, over time, they put him into a conservatorship and they just kept putting him in. They made him spend like $600,000 on rehab in the last 18 months. That is own money. It's, yes. She does. Yeah, it's pretty crazy.
I'll have to do like a deep dive one day of like the whole thing, but there is a lot of this like TMZ calling these people crazy when like it's, it's who's puppeteering that message for them ultimately. Absolutely.
Yeah, that pisses me off so much when we just kind of have this so and so crazy and man defines this crazy and like she obviously needs help you guys like just calling her out for the goofy shit that she's doing and like, you know, I'm not going to put myself on a pedestal when I see she's wandering the streets and make it. I'll read those articles too. Like what is going on? But yeah, at the end of the day, I mean, it's like Aaron Carter.
He obviously needed a lot of help, but all we did was just kind of pick him apart about. Oh my gosh. Did you watch that new documentary on Hulu about him? Yeah, I thought yes. Oh, it's, it was actually done in pretty well taste, I think, but yeah, it was just really sad.
They gave him his flowers quite a bit of like you were able to like pave the way for like a Justin Bieber and all this stuff, but they did talk about the House of Carter's episode where like him and Nick got super physical and just kind of like the improper home life but he really had and how he didn't stand a chance. But man, I'm going to have to add that to my watch list. It was good. It was good. So what else have you guys been watching this week?
Nicole, have you been bingeing anything new or what's taken up your time this week? Gosh, I feel like I haven't been watching very much. I've just been watching sports. It's playoff season for hockey and basketball. Yeah, it goes on. Yeah, and but I have been keeping up weekly bit the real houseways of New Jersey. That's like the one show that I will watch. It's kind of crazy. A lot has been happening. I don't even know where to start.
Teresa, if you know, you know, she is a different kind of crazy than what we were just talking about. She just is manipulative and tries to make everyone else look bad when she's the one in the wrong. But nothing's going to change. She's been on the show for the beginning and she's been the same ever since. But do you think her sister is actually going to end up leaving? Because there are sprue members that they're saying that they don't think they can film anymore. Melissa?
Yeah, after the reunion. I guess there was a bit. I could see them not coming back. I could see that either like Bravo, not I mean, as much as Teresa makes the show, I could see them like not giving her a contract or I could see Melissa leaving. I could see one of them definitely not coming back. Did they get like a fist fight? Are you going to say something? I don't know. We don't know yet. They mean having a contract. Yeah, but they said it's like Eric yet?
No, but they said this is like the worst reunion that's ever happened. Or that one that has flipped tables. So if it's the worst she's ever been like she's saying. Who amongst us hasn't flipped Jesus flipped tables? It's cool. It happened. Jesus, I think Jesus was building the tables, but. No, look it up in the Bible, Olivia. Jesus flipped the tables. It's the yesified version of Jesus who stayed. So basically Jesus would have fitted with the real housewives. Got it.
Perfect. Every time I think of Teresa, I just think of a South Park episode where she's like, "Yemeth Gavage." That one's so good. I'd probably see no one even though you're not a real housewives. I'm so behind on. So far. It's always. It's always so far. I know. It makes me like I haven't watched a new episode since college. Like me and Jessica used to binge it in college. And then it was like, I don't like that low-brow humor. That's a terrible and it was. I just see like, "Oh, come on.
Kim and I watch all of the same shows. We do. Except for what I'm doing." That was a trap. That was a trap. I'm not falling for this. I knew what he liked. It was just Pokemon. That is it. One drag interest. Oh, and drag bossy. And drag bugling. You know, it's a little too in the gutter forum. He like says other part to dance. I've been watching a lot lately. You see here. Okay, so one show that I have been binging, because we do watch a lot of the same shows.
So sometimes when he's not home, I'm like, "I need like a Shawna show." So I started love and death with Elizabeth Olsen. It was a good-- It was a good-- Yes. I'm a huge Christian Ritter fan. She's probably one of my favorite actresses. She's got a small part in it. But it is based on a true story of this woman named Handy. She's in Texas, and she is a church-going lady, and she sings in the choir, and one of her good friends is married to this guy, Alan.
Handy approaches Alan and just goes, "I found you very attractive." Would you like to have an affair? Oh, did you see my other ones? There's for some reason. They've made like three of the-- in the same year of the same story. Yeah, with Jessica Beale. And that one's just called "Pandy." I haven't watched that one. It's a true story, so I mean, I guess kind of spoilers, but literally this is based on a true story.
Candy ends up-- I guess, okay, spoiler alert, if you don't want to know what happens in this actual crime that happened like 30 years ago. You sound like I'm dead. We do that so much on this show. Well, we halfway through, like, talk, spoil something, and then we'll be like, "Oh, wait, actually, by the way, spoiler alert." Candy kills Alan's wife with an axe. She hacks this bitch. Lily Borden. Yes, she hacks her butt. It's self-defense, maybe. But yeah, I would definitely pop love and death.
Every episode is very well-acted. The set pieces are really cool. Set in the 70s. The costumes are amazing. Elizabeth Olson is just a powerhouse. But yeah, the whole cast is really great. I've also been watching very weak to heat. That's one of those shows where we always enjoy it, but it never really blows my mind. I'm never like, "Oh, my God, I can't wait for the next episode of Fairy." We're always sitting down and we're like, "Oh, yeah, Fairy's new. Let's watch it." It's the last season.
Bill Hader is great as usual. They're trying to-- I don't know how they're going to wrap this shit up because very easy, they're going to go back to J.O.L. or "He has to die." I don't know how they're going to do this. But I'm going to pop that. And then the last show that I want to mention, I'm sorry. I'm so much TV. I should be on a podcast where I could talk about this show.
Wow. Every time I think about Bill Hader, now I think of Rachel Bilsen saying she never had an orgasm until she was with them. Now I'm like, "Bill Hader's just got to get a dick you down." I feel like Bill Hader has a big dick energy for sure. I could see them having a trousers. Oh, I mean, Rachel Bilsen just confirmed it. Yeah. We want to-- he's funny. And he has a big dick. We'll take it. We are going to take it. We stand. And he's like media-- he's like media, Mockley.
We're like, you're not like, "Uh, like he's not great, but like he's not a--." So I'm sketches in SNL where I'm like, "Oh, Bill Hader can get it." And then I watch Barry and I'm like, "Oh, I mean, he can still get it." But like, I'm not going to show my friends his picture afterwards and be like, "Look, what's that?" You're not bragging on that? I'm not going to brag on it. Only if he consented. If he consented to me showing my friends a picture of his big trousers, Nick.
But yes, I would show it to you guys. Honestly, Haley leaves and this turns to like a redid ex-pot. I know. The minute Haley leaves, we're like, "We're crazy. You trousers, say." You know what? No. When Haley was on the show, I literally said, "Which muppets face do you want to sit on?" So that's a crazy-- I was like, "Oh, then you said--." "Oh, gone so." He's gone so, yes. No, he's but the-- The-- Yes. He's not one, yes. So who's better at looking? Pete Davidson or Bill Hader?
Oh, Pete Davidson, for sure. Absolutely. I think Pete Davidson is so hot. We have an episode about that, too. I mean, I think Pete Davidson's hot is hot. Looks hot because he looks like Hilt Row in my life. Like, maybe that's what I just want a little chaos. I get energy. But like, Bill Hader looks like he's like, "Rap, you want a hot, you know?" Just like-- That's true. I need to be like-- Bill Hader would make love to you. Well, Pete Davidson would just dig you down.
Yeah. What do you think, Nicole? Neither. I should just take it your good. Who is later just-- Who is your like, like, celebrity, like, hall pass person? Where you're like, "If I ever, it's all in sight." Um, Chris Maloney, for sure. But if we're going to go like, "RH?" A type of type, you can have whatever type of-- I know. I know. "RH?" I don't even know, honestly. Okay. We're going to get to the end of the episode. We're going to see what your onsite is. Please do. I'll start researching.
Because I know this one when I just can't. Can't think of foods. Okay, okay, wait, wait, wait, wait. One more show. One more show. Melissa's Macyl. It's so good. If you guys haven't been watching it, this show is just a delight. Every episode, it's also less season. And they're doing a lot of flash forwards to, like, the 80s and 90s. Um, the show's set in the 60s. I think I've talked about it in this podcast before. But please watch, "Marveless Mrs. Macyl." If you just want to smile and laugh.
And watch some gorgeous 60s fashion. There you go. I will say you also sound like my dad there for that one. To see frickin' love's that show. It's so good. Every episode is just a delight. It's a pure delight. Yeah. Yeah. All right, Olivia, what have you been watching? So I just had my 30th birthday. So on Sunday. You're gonna be on Sunday. Thank you. I had on the oldest junky now. 34 and just like a whole. And we love it. That was the theme of my 34th birthday.
Yes. Yes. I didn't come up with that. Sean is much more creative than I am. So in my squalor on Sunday when I was picking myself up off the floor from a whole bottle of tequila. I watched Kung Pao enter the fist, which like, if you know me, you know that that movie is deeply embedded in my soul. Like I will just find myself going, "Woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo." Like to myself. And so that's something about me. But it was amazing.
I literally sat there with a giant chocolate cake, didn't cut it and just made it with a spoon. It was a beautiful, spiritual experience. Yes. A little girl. And then after that, I binge watched all of Queen Charlotte by Bridgerton. Or the Bridgerton story, whatever they're calling it. And I liked it. It was really, really good.
They addressed like all the criticism of like, "Why are you not acknowledging race in a world where there's like black people in Regency Times?" And like a black queen, right? And so they addressed that as well as they never had a gay story in it. And so they had both of those in this. And I really, really liked that. Is it like a mini series? Yes. So it's six episodes. So if you saw Bridgerton, basically it's about the Queen in the story. So Queen Charlotte is her name.
And it's the story of how her and the king fell in love. The main guy in it, super hot, looks like Dave Franco, but an English version. So yeah. There's a good one for you, Nicole. Yeah. Yeah, he's not a Franco, so we can like, you know, like that, we can buy that. Dave is a cool Franco. Yeah, but I feel like if your brother is James Franco, like there's some residual, like, rod coming to you, you know? Maybe that's a mean judgment, but I don't, I got my ears perked for him.
But he was, he was really good. And like they genuinely had chemistry. If I feel like if you watched the first Bridgerton, which I went back and did that after I finished it, because I was like, I'm not more. And the original couple in Bridgerton has like no chemistry. And so this one was much better. Well, but it's that super hot guy Renee something. Yeah, I think we were all just like so secluded and like, horned up for a better word during COVID where we were like, this is great.
This is amazing. This show is everything. And if you rewatch it, it's like, oh, that's probably not good. But Queen Charlotte was really good. And I really liked it. And the people had good chemistry. And then they upped the costumes. Like another big criticism of Bridgerton is like, they're not accurate to like the time that they're trying to be in. And a lot of the costumes this time around were actually good and fit for like queens and things like that. I never watched it.
The only reason I would have is just because of the hotness and the sex scene. But maybe I'll just skip right over to this one. I don't know. Yeah, I like maybe I'll just watch a compilation of the sex scenes on YouTube. Also good. Also good. They're going to HBO route where they're like really showing the men's butts. It's like women's bodies out men's butts in. Losing a butt. Dude, when Lucifer went to Netflix and they showed his butt cheeks in that episode, I was like, "Lord, have mercy.
Devil, have mercy." Give me those devil butts. We had a whole episode about that too. Oh my god. It's just a throwback at the same thing. I think we had a title of an episode that was just like, "You sexy devil or sleeping with the devil." I don't remember. Poor for me. You're a mom called your junkie. You got to. No, apparently. Apparently. Sorry about it. "Sexy British Devil Man." That was the name of the episode. Go back and listen to it. [Music] So we are huge fans of television, clearly.
But would television exist if no woman was there to write it? Enter the writer's strike. That is going down right now. And that a lot of people think, "It's gonna last." I'm reading up to months at a time. I think the last time that it went on, it lasted a really long time. It was like months on end. And a lot of TV shows were impacted. So, interested to hear some pot takes on the writer's strike right now. Yeah, so November to February. Yeah, dude, that was a long time.
They're saying that a lot of TV shows are being impacted already. SNL has already canceled its last three episodes. Which I was looking forward to. Because Pete Davidson wasn't going to be there. You're daddy. There you go. You love him. You needed him. You needed him. I needed him. Yeah, it's most significantly impacted up front. It seems like it's all the late night shows. But really kind of down the line. It's going to impact some of our favorites. We got yellow jackets. How's it dragon?
Which, no, I need that. I need that back in my life. I know. I'm obsessed with yellow jackets. I do support the strike though. Like, the selfish worst of me is like, oh my god, no. Come on, I need my entertainment. Entertain me right now. This was the only thing keeping me on. Keep holding on by a thread over here. I'm not going to be there. I'm not going to be there. I'm not going to be there. I'm not going to be there. I'm not going to be there. I'm not going to be there.
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I'm not going to be there. I'm not going to be there. I'm not going to be there. I'm not going to be there. I'm not going to be there. I'm not going to be there. Yeah. Well, it's interesting, right? Like, you look at criticism of Hollywood right now and it's, they're always making the same thing over and over.
They're just like really formulaic with their writing because as an executive, they're like, okay, well, we want to make something that we know is going to make money and is proven to work, which, you know, that isn't like a creative mindset at all. Then we have so many talented writers where, you know, I think eventually, like, it'll become so formulaic, especially if they add in this AI writing that people aren't going to be interested.
Like, we're going to have so much streaming content more so than we do now that is just below even some of the stuff we see today, which I think quality of TV shows has really gone down. So, why did this strike start in the first place? So, it was kind of the instigating factor here. So the writers guild wanted to increase their pay for their members. I believe the pay was around $429 million a year, according to the WGA, and the counter-MPTP would run about $86 million per year.
So, the number of writers working at the minimum pay has risen from a third to about a half. So, that's quite a bit of people. 10% wise, it's 33% to 50%. So, I mean, that's a lot. And then writers for comedy writing shows and for streaming services, they have no pay protection and tend to get less paid in their counterparts in broadcast, which is pretty crazy to think about. I guess that's why a lot of these shows are being impacted, like the late night shows for sure. Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, I didn't think it that way, but exactly. A lot of the writers previously, to make their living, they had to be making these residuals from their shows, right? But with streaming, the residuals don't really work in that way. So, like, residuals as a whole, as an industry, has risen. But when it comes to individual shows, it's dropped significantly. So, because of that, people are making less and less money, they're paying writers less and less.
And, you know, which just dark days in the creator world. Oh, gosh. And there are so many different streaming services that I'm sure it's hard to know going into it, which ones are going to be profitable or not. Like, what was that one that lasted? Like, really quick. Quibi. Oh, my God. Quibi. And then that is 8 shit immediately. We got only Netflix is really turning a profit right now.
So, I think going into these streaming services as they're being launched, it's kind of hard to tell which ones are going to be profitable, which ones aren't, and how much they can afford to pay the writers. I can't even imagine all this Quibi show. It's different to the live on the floor, if some cutting room right now. Yeah. The Quibi feels like a way to have a production-valued TikTok. Or, I guess, it's more Snapchat. Like, you know, the Snapchat feature page.
That's like what Quibi just feels like, which is. Yeah. I'll try to make TikToks and then I'll post them. I'll be like, that was really cute. And then I'll look at other people's TikToks. I'm like, why the fuck do I even try? Like, they have special effects in their TikToks. And I'm in here like a selfie of myself. But also too, during this whole thing, Drew Barrymore was supposed to host MTV, booby and TV wars.
And three days before the award show was supposed to happen, she came out and said that she was dropping out as the host because she's in support of this strike. And so I did tune in because I wanted to try to see how they were going to go about if they got a new post because I didn't see them announce anything about getting a new host or something like that. It was extremely weird. I did not like the format at all. Nobody was there. It was not live. I mean, it was, but it wasn't.
Like, there was no audience. I should say everyone was at home and they already, the winner already had the award. So I turned it on when Jennifer Coolidge won. And she was like in her apartment holding the award already. And I was like, okay, like maybe she was just sick or something. Couldn't make it filming something. I don't know, white lotus. Who knows. And it was just really weird. They kept showing throwback images and footage of previous award shows. Why would anyone want to watch that?
I feel like no. MTV did that over COVID too. Yeah. And Gaga and Ariana performed. And I mean, I loved that whole show because it was basically like a lady, Gaga, chromatic, a commercial. She won like four before. It's yet all these different outfit. But everyone was wearing masks and everyone else was screaming. And the pandemic, Golden Globes did that too. It was just like everybody's at home. Yeah, she's the least kind of stuff we get when people don't get paid.
Yeah. Mm-hmm. But we love Drew Bayer, Mariam. She's for the people. Yeah. She's an icon. Oh my god. She's so pure. She is so pure. She is so pure. She's the rain. Did you guys see her interview with Brook Shields? No. Oh my god, you need to watch it. Also, back to TV we're watching. If you haven't watched the Crybaby documentary or Pretty Baby Crybaby. I haven't seen you watch that. Pretty baby, don't get on my list. It is so good. It is so disturbing what we were doing to this little girl.
And like- Yeah, she was like 11 or 12 and like- Do you think sex happens, right? Yeah. Oh. Yeah. I'm like, no, when there were so messed up, like everyone's like, why are kids having sex so young? And it's like, you are putting this stuff on the TV in the 80s. What are you talking about? But no, it's really, really crazy. Because she also put out a book as well.
I think personally as like an objective person, I think she gives her mother a lot of grace that I probably would not extend to her, but she is her mother. So- Those showbiz moms, man. Yeah, in both the book and in the documentary, she has a really hard time like condemning her mother's actions. But what was really interesting in the Drew Barrymore interview is she really kind of changes that stance and like really does speak out about it.
Because I mean, Drew Barrymore and Brooke Shields have such a similar like life story where they were like young Lola who was getting taken to like these clubs at like seven years old. I read Drew Barrymore's book. I think it's called Little Girl Lost. And she was taken like, Studio 54, is that what it was called? She was doing cocaine at nine years old. That's insane. You know, my God, the way that she turned out to be is lovely and supportive as she is now.
Have you ever seen any of the pictures of her in the club? It's freaking nuts. Yeah. You're like, you look like you like she looks like she's straight out of ET. Like, if I was fucked up in a club and I just saw the little child there, I'd be like, why is happening? Literally. Literally. I don't freak out. Literally. I don't freak out. I'm literally like, wait, like I need to go home. I'm seeing ET right now. And it's like, no, that's just actually Drew Barrymore over there.
Is that my brain, Natch? Child. No, it's like when we were at the pool party for your birthday and somebody had two kids in the pool. Yeah. We're here. We're here. I thought it was. Don't bring your children to the casino pool with a DJ. Yeah. Like, there's a DJ here. Yeah. Pick a different dance track. I'll go get a million resorts. So we love the gaze. Olivia is a welcome rash. We love you very much. Bill Hader has big dick energy.
Don't give your nine year old cocaine and you support the writers right. Did I forget anything? Yeah. And watch Pretty Baby. Because it's a good story. And Jesus would be welcome on the Real Housewives of New Jersey because he's looked at Jesus. Jesus be flipping tables. Yes, if I Jesus. And who drank wine? And he drank wine. Do he shop to the reunion and he'd be like that water bottle? Wine. Please don't stop listening to my family.
So Olivia, what did you think about your first episode of Pop Culture Jackie Podcast? Well, I'm glad you guys didn't bite. You know, hopefully you let me come back next week. But I do that when I'm a person. That's true. You haven't recorded it in person with Nicole yet. Tell me what the good time. I'm going to be the pervy host. That's going to be the problem. That role has already been taken. No. No. But yeah, I'm excited.
I'll have to next time school you on the free band movement so you guys can join in giving him his freedom just like we did for Britney. Absolutely. Let's do it. I'm going to hear all about that. In the meantime, where can the people find you? This is the part where we give our social media links. So I'll let you go first, Liv. You can find me @livimariez on Instagram, L-I-V-I, Marie with a “Z" at the end. And Nicole.
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