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Nepo Baby Apocalypse Car

Jul 06, 20231 hr 5 minSeason 4Ep. 118
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Shauna spoils the end of The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel (you’re welcome), then practices her “Ah-nold” accent for us all (you’re welcome again). Olivia is still pressuring the other Junkies to join her in the tortuous task of watching The Idol, to no avail, and eases us into the triggering documentary about the triggering Duggar clan. Then Nicole catches us all up on the various Vanderpump Rules scandals and instructs Shauna on how to become a Real Housewife. And speaking of Lily-Rose Depp, because we were, Olivia declares it’s time to play a game: Nepo-Baby Apocalypse Car. Imagine it’s the end of the world, and you are packing a vehicle with everything you need to survive…which celebrity offsprings would you take with you for that final ride? The Junkies’ answers may surprise you.

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(upbeat rock music) ♪ Fill me up with a barell full of monkeys ♪ ♪ I hate being bored, I hate being bored ♪ ♪ Hook me up 'cause I'm such a Junkie ♪ ♪ Every day all I want is more ♪ ♪ So entertain me, entertain me right now ♪ ♪ I need it bad, I need it bad ♪ ♪ So entertain me, entertain me right now ♪ ♪ So entertain me, I need it bad ♪ Welcome to the Pop Culture Junkie podcast. I'm Olivia here with my fellow junkies. - Nicole. - And Shauna.

- So Nicole, Shauna, let's talk about what we're obsessed with this week. - Oh my God. Okay, I feel like a lot of the shows that I'm obsessed with finished up either their entire runs or their seasons. And I mentioned this a couple episodes ago and I was kind of saving it up. So I will do a quick little rundown. I know a lot of our listeners are probably obsessed with succession. I don't watch that. I don't know. It's on the list. Sorry, we're not gonna talk about it.

So if everyone's like, "What are they talking about?" "Sexession." - That's why. Barry finished its entire series. And I feel like it's a pretty solid little ending. I feel like the ending of Barry kind of reminds me of the ending of Ozark, where I'm not gonna look at back on it years from now and be like, God, that was a good show. Just gonna be like, "That was pretty good." That's right. I don't know. I don't miss it week to week. The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel had a series finale.

And I'm gonna, that's a show I'm gonna miss. That's a show I'm gonna miss week to week. Spoilers for the Marvelous Mrs. Maisel in 321. I don't wanna spoil it too much 'cause I really want you guys to watch it someday. But they do a lot of flash forwards. That final season, the show is set in the 60s so in the final episode, they cover what midge, Mrs. Maisel is up to throughout the rest of her life. So in the 70s, 80s, 90s. And you know, she gets everything she wants.

She's absolutely famous beyond her wildest dreams. She is probably one of the most famous comedians in the world. She's rich, has this huge mansion. But in the very final episode, she's utterly alone. Her kids are estranged from her. She's divorced, never really remarry, never got really over her first husband. So it shows through her walking through this huge mansion. But it's empty. There's a huge dining room table, but there's no one sitting at it, right?

And she has this call with her best friend in the entire world, who is also her manager at the very end. And they're both old ladies at this point. And the show ends with the two of them just making each other like giggle and laugh over the phone. And I was like, the whole theme of this show is just female friendship. She says at one point, like, I just, I don't know if I can be with anyone who doesn't make me laugh. And we think that she's talking about like a husband.

It come to find out it was like her best friend. It was her best friend all along in the very end. They're just making each other giggle and laugh on the phone. Female friendship. Hashtag pop culture junkie podcast. Did her kids make her laugh? Is that why they're estranged? You know, Mitch, we're out this show. One of the funniest parts of the whole show. It's like a running joke. When then she's in the 60s, as you always kind of forget she has kids.

Because they're like third, fourth string characters, where she's like, oh, yeah, I'm a kid. Yeah, someone else can watch those. And then this season finally kind of addresses that where it's a flash forward. And her kids are like, yeah, my mom was never there. The nanny raised us and we kind of see like the aftermath of that. That whole show is just amazing. And I definitely, from beginning to end, up your treat.

So popping that, besides that, let's see, my husband and I watched all three episodes of the Arnold Schwarzenegger documentary on Netflix. I really liked it. It breaks down like the three parts of Arnold's life, right? Like, episode one is he's an athlete. So he's a bodybuilder. And it talks about Mr. Olympia and all that good stuff. Episode two is the actor. So it's Arnold's life as being the most famous fucking actor in the world, right? In the 80s. And then part three is called the American.

And it breaks down like him being the governor of California. And when it really goes back to back to back, it just kind of shows how absurd it was that this dude, he was just kind of like, oh, yeah. I just, oh my god, this is a terrible long time. I'm so sorry. Anyone from Austria is about to be so offended. OK, wait, after you get into it, I'll be back. OK, OK. I just want to be governor. I was actor. I was bodybuilder. I got bored. I need something new to do.

He ran for governor because he was just like, why not? Why not? He was in a silly goofy mood. OK. He was in a silly goose summer, honestly. And he was just like, I guess I'll be governor. And he ran for governor. And he won. And I really respected how he was a Republican, but he was so centrist. And he worked with both sides. He brought in Democrats a lot. He was married to a candidate. And he brought in Republicans. He was from another country.

So the whole time he was like, I just don't get why in this country no one talks to each other. Why in this country no one gets along? That's what I thought was awful. I'm not even here. And first, you're going to be like, you really missed an opportunity to be like a Z on American. But now I'm still American. Contrary no one gets along. That what was that? I don't know. You got like, you have my mystery pop accent, where I always say like, you never know.

But I was trying to impersonate Blink 182 one night. Like, where are you? And it came out Russian. So sorry. OK. I'm just going to do Arnold. But it's going to be like British. OK, just get wine day when King get along all the time. In America, you're just for all the time. You sound like a folksy like newspaper boy in one of those movies where they're like, come get your paper. Here it is, Arnold's a governor. The governor likes us here. Governor? Every array. Get your pipe. Is that all right?

But yeah, pop the Arnold documentary. And pop my realist, Mrs. Maisel. And I'm going to drop the idol, which Olivia forced me into watching while feeding me cheese. But I will let her talk about that. Yeah. So my obsession, I'm going to drop Shauna's Arnold Schwarzenegger accent. That's what we're going to drop first. That's a bullshit, yeah? In the pop culture junky group chat, I have been peer-pressuring everyone to watch the idols so far. Only Shauna has taken me up on the peer pressure.

But Nicole is a little more strong. Because we both are. Yes, there were pickles and cheese involved. It's cooked, essentially. But I've been watching the idol quite a bit. I've been really interested in it since the Rolling Stone article came out about how there's essentially a adult torture film is what it was like on the screen, behind the scenes, and really kind of going into these dark, twisted fantasies of the weekend in Sam Leppinson.

And at first, when I was hearing this, I was like, the older person in me was like, all those young ends, they're just so prudent. I watched it. I agree with them. It's quite sexual. There's good pieces of the plot. But it's on the screen for five minutes. And then the rest is like this weird music video that the weekend is putting on. And Lily Rose-Dept is just topless the whole time. It's-- I felt elderly watching it. I was like, I don't get-- Listeners now. I like it when people do it.

I like some on-screen porniness. And even I was like, I like goodness gracious. Calm down and put up some clothes. Yeah. What are they doing? I don't know. I don't know. Yeah. And I was really interested in it. So we've talked a little bit about Britney Spears and the Free Britney movement. And Britney was early attached to this project in 2019, posted on Instagram right when she was about to get out of this conservatorship. Well, I can't remember how long ago I don't know the time for.

But essentially, all of a sudden, they dropped the main director. They had had six episodes already directed. And they fired this director, scrapped everything, and hired on Sam Levinson, the creator of Euphoria. And the weekend said that they made this decision because he didn't like that it was so much from the female point of view. It's about a female pop star who gets involved with a cult leader and taken advantage of it. Oh, that's her story. Think of the men. So it is really terrible.

I'm going to keep watching it because I do want to see it through. But if it just becomes like this weird, the weekend doing porn and a music video, I'm probably not going to keep going. But it's unfortunate. I think Lily Rose-Dept does have some talent, potential. But she's acting along with someone with a weird rap tale who's also never acted before. So I'm going to drop that one for now. But that's how I felt about it, too. It was just-- it was very pretentious.

And the dialogue didn't really make sense from the first episode that I saw. There-- I guess trying to be sexy with each other, they're at her house. And she's like having a cocktail, kind of rubbing this glass I grab on her skin, which I guess could be kind of hot. But they're talking about her music career. And he goes, this is the first time you've recorded since your mom died. She's like, yeah. I don't think-- was that supposed to be hot?

As a member of the #DeadMomsClone, that would not turn me on. I'm sorry. But I'm going to go cry now. Thank you. I need a tissue for another reason. Thanks for bringing up my deceased parent. You can help yourself out. And I'm just going to go ahead and finish this drink. I might know. Thank you for bringing up my trauma. But she's like into it. Yeah, it was. It's really deep to me. And the lyrics of the song are like, I'm a freak. I'm a freak. Let's do it. I'm a freak.

If she's like, it's really deep. You need money to sleep with me. Yeah, it's so deep. So-- It's a first song she wrote since her mom died. Very meaningful. We're going to drop it down low. We're not going to officially drop it just yet. But the other one that I am going to pop for the week is shiny, happy people. It's the Dugger documentary about their FLDS-- The Quipper Felt Movement. Yeah, it's like the IBL something. And so it was a four-part documentary. It was really, really good.

They talk about how they've had this strategic approach, not just in that sect, but evangelicalism in general, how they've really been trying to take over the governments, the police departments, and all of these decision-making entities. So it's really, really interesting. One thing that I think they could have done a better job and not necessarily like every kid is out of it is Ginger Dugger is still very much involved in this semi-culti aspect of evangelicalism.

And they don't really press her on that at all. They make her the front-end center individual in the documentary, talking about everything that happened. But they were obviously focusing on the abuse that happened both in the church and at the hands of her brother. So you kind of want to keep it in one direction. But I would definitely pop that. If you haven't dug into the Duggers, maybe you saw them on the news because of Josh. It was really, really good.

They go into the abuse, what the family did, what the church did to cover it off. They talk about Josh. Yeah, they talk about all the stuff because the church essentially knew when it happened when he was 12. And they sent him to go build this house in a camp to cure him. And when he got bad words, he was not cured, obviously. And so they just talk a lot about how that religion breeds it.

Because whenever you get abused or assaulted, trigger warning here, they say that you attracted it as a woman. And so you showed your ankles so you deserve to be molested as a child, right? What did you do? And it's very, very dark. And you know, they kind of talk about all that. But if you can handle it, if you're in the right headspace, I would definitely recommend it because it's happening. Where's that streaming on? That's on my list. Amazon Prime.

OK. Josh, it just really disgusts me how they gave the Doug or such a platform for their show. And I mean, in the beginning, it just, you know, 17, 18, 19, 18 kids in counting. And it was supposed to just kind of be seen as like, oh my god, this family's so silly and fun. And they have so many kids. Like, no, like, they have this unique kid. We just laugh every day, thank. No, they're in a religious call. And these girls are being abused. And this is not OK.

And they shouldn't have had that platform all those years. But you know, it was just so wildly popular. And yeah, I'm going to watch that. I'm going to watch that after we stop recording. I have to go, you guys. Thank you. Here's our links by SHU and HIR. Yeah. If you guys check it out, let's turn your eyes for this new year's thoughts, it's definitely a conversation to go on for on and on. Now, Nicole, what have you been obsessed with this week?

What I've been obsessed with is TikTok, just because my feed. My feed has just been straight up Vanderpump Girls reunion stuff. Oh my god. That has literally all it has been. Let's go watch a single episode of VPR. And I cannot tell you how long ever since Stasi was on it. And I don't know how long she's been gone off of it. And it's been quite some time since I've actually watched it. And I could tell you everything that's been happening.

I know all the drama and everything, yes, because of TikTok. And so I've been obsessed with VPR TikTok. I know that. Yes, I love it. Not a show or anything. But it's so much fun. I'm obsessed with that. Yeah. I think you can get away with just watching on TikTok. It's really kind of just swept the nation. I mean, man, that t-shirt comment, everyone was like, so-- I want to know. Tell me the t-shirt. OK, back it up context.

If you don't know what happened with VPR, the-- Somebody cheated on somebody. I guess that. Yeah. So Tom Shamball cheated. The worm with the mustache. She did. Yes. The showrunner that has been on there for about 10 seasons, almost 10 years of their life. He cheated on his long-term partner, basically, like a common law marriage. And what he did was he cheated on her with her best friend. And she hit it from all their friends, hit it from the show. The producers didn't know.

Basically, it came out-- She did it from the show. Yeah, the producers did not know. And so when the show ended filming, it came out. And she found a video of them facetime sexy timing. And she'd put it out to the entire world. And so three weeks later, after this news breaks, they have to go in and film this reunion as part of their contract. And of course, Tom Sandivall and Raquel are getting brutally bludgeoned as they deserve and yelled at by these individuals.

And they're asking, Tom, have you slept with anyone else since you've been with Raquel? And Ariana goes, yeah, he's been with me. And under his breath, like the slimy little worm that he is, he goes, yeah, and she kept her t-shirt on. It was so sexy. You-- Whoa. [LAUGHTER] And this is in front of his girlfriend that he cheated on. And he had to let slip what he thought was hot. Well, Ariana is a girlfriend. Yeah, Ariana is a girlfriend. This is in front of the camera.

This is on the stage at reunions. What a slime ball she is. And then two afterwards, everything has come out now. Ariana is the one that wore the t-shirt. And Raquel is the one that he cheated on with, aka the best friend. Sandivall is the scum on the piece of the earth. And after the t-shirt comment came out, all the girls on Vanderpump were going to PR events and stuff like that, just wearing t-shirts with tights on underneath. Yeah, it just slaps on the t-shirts. And it's hot.

And then she has a sandwich shop coming out, and she's been making merch and all of this. And it's this picture-- it's like in kind of like a scream-o band writing. And it says, "F me in this t-shirt." And it's just so good. And yeah, I'm buying one, because it's just, of course, I am. I don't know if that. Yeah, so they made a million dollars off of the merch that they've sold. And their business has not even opened yet. Wow. What? So I wish we could get that way with pop culture junky.

Let's sell them those t-shirts, yo. New t-shirts coming out, million dollars. Just started cheating on them. So other than Vanderpump TikTok, which I am also sucked in obsessed with, what else have we been, you know, falling into the FYP on? Yeah, no, I haven't been watching much. I mean, I guess I've been obsessed with Rahal's Exhibition of New Jersey reunion. You're always obsessed with that, though. Yeah, it's crazy. I believe Theresa needs to be done with the show. I can't stand her anymore.

I used to be one of her biggest supporters. I thought she needed to be on the show, because she wasn't OG. I thought she brought a lot to the show. But now, after the reunion and the season, I'm like, she just needs to go. Louis is scum. I do not like him. He is not good for her at all. He's just freaking the bad out of everybody. He's literally hired a private investigator to get dirt on everybody that's on the show. Like, who does that? Can I ask a question?

Yeah. How does one become a real housewife of Phil in the blank? Do you have to be very rich or your married to a celebrity and you don't have a job? Because if I think housewife, it means like, I don't have a job, but my husband does. Yeah, you marry rich. OK, your husband's a rich one. And all of these housewives, all of these ladies, it's just the lives of all of these very rich women with too much time and money. Basically, yes.

So basically, they marry rich and then eventually, they become so famous themselves that they open up either like their own business or become social media influencers that they have their own brand deals. And then they end up getting their own money that way. But basically-- I mean, that sounds amazing. Yeah, honestly. Or they commit crime. Yeah. Also, that sounds amazing. That sounds amazing. The rich do crime. Like, Teresa was the pioneer.

I am here for my future job just being like, yeah, that's Shanna, turn it at. Like, oh, yeah, no, she married Rich. No, she just does crime. Like, that's incredible. And I get to be on a television show. OK. Yeah. Well, if you're Jen Shaw or Teresa Dudeis, you will end up in jail. If you're Erica Jane, you'll be just fine. Or now Kim Beermann. Yeah, true. I'll be fine. [LAUGHTER] I love it. Well, color. Like, crime. I expect an update, a psychological analysis, and all the notes.

Next time, we record. Because I love to hear it. I'm like you with Vanderpump. I like that quick synopsis. I want to know what's going on. But yeah, I don't know if it can handle that yelling from both Vanderpump and New Jersey. Like, that was a lot in my soul. You got it. So unless you've been living under a rock in 2023, you've probably seen the internet explode with this discussion of nepotism.

This discourse has predominantly been aimed at Hollywood and the numerous hot actors of today that have some connection to fame through their family tree. While this concept of nepotism babies making it in Hollywood is nothing new, the discussion of its fairness is somewhat of a new phenomenon, specifically on TikTok.

Just so for our listeners, if you don't know what a nepotism is, it's the practice among those with the power or influence, favoring their relatives or friends, especially by giving them jobs or other benefits. Thus, this nepotism or nepotbaby term is generally seen as a derogatory term referring to someone who has received advantages or benefits due to their connections versus the merits.

So a lot of the time we've heard this about some of the top people who are coming up, the hot women of today, I feel generally it's been aimed at women. But I just wanted to kind of start this off in our discussion around nepotism and what we're going to get into today with maybe some nepotism babies that you weren't aware of, right? The nepotism babies of our past. That would include people like Julia Roberts, Tracey Ellis Ross, Maggie and Jake Gyllenhaal. See, and that is shocking to me.

Like a lot of them are obvious, and we hear a lot about them. Willow and like Jayden Smith. But like Julia Roberts, OK. No, I love them. Yeah, I did think this story surprises to me. We're Nicholas Cage, George Clooney, and Jennifer Aniston. George Clooney, I didn't know he was a nepotbaby. Who's he related to? His father was a really famous news anchor. That's fascinating. OK. Yeah. See, and yeah, stuff like that. OK, Rosemary Clooney, interesting. Some of them-- and I don't know.

We think of George Clooney, and we think, oh, he made it absolutely on his own. Same with Jennifer Aniston. At what point do you stop being a nepotbaby if your fame eclipses that of your parents? Does that mean maybe you're not a nepotbaby anymore? Maybe when you first got started, you had that name association. But if you're more famous than them, then I don't know.

People kind of stop seeing you as, oh, Johnny Depp's daughter with like, Lily Rose or her co-beings daughter, like Frances Bean, you know, you're like, oh, that's George Clooney. I know that's interesting. I've never actually thought about that. Celebrities with famous parents who have talent, who have a claim. I guess a claim is a better word than talent, because they're recognized as great actors or great at their craft. Like, where is that threshold in the industry?

Yeah. Or I guess public perception. I'm looking at a list of like famous nepotbaby's right now. Nicole Richie. And Sanosa. Oh, my God. I love her. Honestly, what is she good at? I don't really know, but I love her. Yeah. What's her fashion designer now? Yeah, she's. What's her brand called? No clue. It's called-- See, there it is. Sanosa. Yeah, exactly. So, baby, so Lion Richie is her dad. Hello. Is it me? You're looking for-- yes, it is. Nicole Richie's brand. I'm looking for you.

Can't find it. Can't find it. Can't find it. Emma Roberts is Julia Roberts' niece. I feel like she's made a pretty good career for herself, though. I mean, you know just from the last name, and she does look a lot like Julia Roberts. But at the same time, she's been in a lot of stuff where she's kind of carved out that name for herself, you know? Yeah. You know, I think it's really interesting, the public perception and discussion around it.

To your points, is it when they have a certain amount of acclaim in the industry that they remove themselves from that label? Or is it more that they acknowledge their privilege and then move on from it? Nicole, what's your take on that? That's a good question. I feel like some celebrities kind of bank on the fact that they grew up with people famous enough to help them pave the way for their careers, but then others want to make a name for themselves.

But like some people don't want to be associated with their parents in that career because they want to make a name for themselves rather than kind of growing up and be like, well, I made my career for me not because of who my parent is. I did this career because I worked hard enough for myself and I put the time, effort, blood, sweat and tears because I worked hard enough to get to this point not because my parent is XYZ. So I don't know.

I feel like these people want to work and do it for themselves rather than because of who their parent is. But kind of going off of the list that we were looking at, I think maybe we were looking at the same list, I don't know. But I just want your guys to be opinion on people who claim. They are quote, "Nepo babies that I don't think they are is the Kardashian gender kids." Oh, I think they're Nepo babies for sure. How? There's no reason that any of these people should be famous on this list.

Okay, first of all, like not like the kids of Kim, they're all, I think they're all Nepo babies. I mean Kim and Courtney and Chloe, their father was all what Robert Kardashian. - The OG was the famous OJ lawyer. - That's true, I forget. - Yeah, and I mean in the 90s, that was entertainment. - That's true. - That's just it is. - Yeah, it was televised everyday. - Mm-hmm.

I mean even as a child, you know, and yeah, like Nicole, it was, God, I don't, you might have, if you were even alive, yet you were fresh out the womb. (laughing) That shit was like, I remember talking about the OJ trial when I was in kindergarten. Like that's how I know it's all whole. I literally went to kindergarten one day. And I remember our teacher going, it was, it's probably so inappropriate in hindsight.

She's like, do you guys think that OJ is guilty or innocent and that she took like a poll on the chalkboard? - Yeah, and we're all like, baby. - Don't you? - You don't fucking know. - They're just like, parody. - We're just what the parents say. - Yeah. - But I mean even tripling down. So the only reason that Kylie and Kindle are famous is because the ones before them are famous. - Well, no. - No, their father's Bruce Jenner, or it was Bruce Jenner, sorry. - Yeah, Kate. - That's true.

- He allows to be dead named before, but Caitlin. - Yeah, yeah. - Yeah, so Caitlin Jenner, we're gonna call her by her name and-- - No, you're totally right. - Trans individuals. So they're famous because Caitlin Jenner, it's their father. - That is exactly what it means. - You look at Brody Jenner, that's why he's famous, right? We was in it because of Caitlin.

So yeah, I would say if Chris did not marry Caitlin, I don't know if the Kardashians would have had that much of like a poll because Caitlin really helped then continue that level of fame post trial. So I would kind of agree with that. - I totally agree. I think Tina Cole's point that there are some quote, "Nepo babies who do carve out this own kind of niche for themselves, especially if they change their names or try to distance themselves."

But when I respect them the most, and when I respect anybody really is when they realize their own privilege. So if somebody's able to be like, "You know what, yeah, I got this audition because my last name is blah blah blah." I got my own TV show and I got an audition with Disney because my last name is Cyrus. You know? And like you admit it, then I'm able to be like, "All right, I respect that."

And I'm willing to put more stake into you and you're like, "You know what, yeah, my parents are famous and I get that, that helped me get my foot in the door." Period. And also I am talented and I'm gonna try to prove to you that I deserve to be here. If they're just like, "So, who cares who my parents are?" I'm famous anyway. I'm like, shut up. Like acknowledge that like any regular Joe Schmo off the street wouldn't have had the same chance of that audition.

Like Bella Hadid and Gigi Hadid, I'm sorry. You wouldn't have had that same chance with all of this stuff if your parents were famous. You wouldn't have. That doesn't mean that you're not beautiful and talented but you at least acknowledge that it helped you break through that first audition, which is sometimes the hardest part is like even going to that first audition or getting that first job. Get a map call back, yeah.

And you know too, while I was doing research for this episode, you know, I was really looking at it, okay, why are these perceptions of certain nepotism babies so bad and others are so good? And you know, I want to first start about some of these nepotism babies who have acknowledged their privilege and done it well. And I think it kind of speaks to why people don't refer to them as nepotism babies or think of them as nepotism babies because they acknowledged it and they moved on.

So I think Jamie Lee Curtis is a really, really great example in this her parents were in Psycho and some like at Hot really famous old movies. And she was quoted saying, you know, it's important for me given that I'm this bougie princess from Los Angeles, even if I claimed I worked hard, I've never really worked a hard day in my life. She told that to the New Yorker in December, 2019. Allison Williams, she's from Girls.

She also said, there's no conversation about my career without talking about the ways in which I have been fortunate. If you trust your own skill, I think it becomes very simple to acknowledge. And I really loved the way that she said that, right? Acknowledging it and moving on. And then, you know, we've said a few of these in the episode, but you know, Lily Rose Depp, she's a famous nepot baby. She's been really associated with this term.

And I almost kind of blame it on this quote and like putting herself in this process. I don't rate it to you guys and we're kind of talk about it more after, but Lily Rose Depp told L, it just doesn't make any sense. If somebody's mom or dad is a doctor, then the kid becomes a doctor. You're not going to be like, you're only a doctor because your parent is a doctor. It's like, no, I went to medical school and trained.

And like the irony of that is like, okay, well, you would have had to get into that medical school. And if your dad was, if your parent was a legacy parent, you would have been much more likely to be accepted to that. And so she kind of started this whole explosion, but that's really where I think it's, you got to acknowledge it and let people move on and say it humbly. And if you don't, this is what's going to be stuck with you. I totally agree.

And you're going to be more likely to afford to get into medical school and attend it if your parents are also not. Yeah. And if your parents are making a donation to the school or if they're going to write you a letter, you have that name recognition. And there's absolutely nothing wrong with admitting it. And at the end of the day, people are going to respect you.

I mean, it's so far off of the track, but like my dad worked at the Arizona Republic, like the biggest newspaper in Arizona for 30 years. And so when it came time for me to like find an internship, honestly, I used the connections that I had and having the same last name as my dad who was like well known there, really helped me get an internship there. And I walked around there like, yep. I'm Lonnie's daughter. Listen, I know. I know that's why I'm here. So I'm a, I'm a never-baking person.

That's acknowledged my Arizona Republic privilege. Oh my God, I don't even work there anymore. You should. But you, you acknowledge the connections that you get. And that is how a lot of people get jobs. You know, you get to know those connections. But God, being rich and famous and just privileged like that, like God just, I don't know, own up to it. Are you just cringe and I hate you? Yeah. That honestly just reminds me of like, hopefully I could talk about this.

I mean, I'm out of my sorority, but being an sorority, like when you're going through recruitment, if you're a mother or father, I don't know if it's the same for fraternities, but if your mother was in the sorority, you are basically guaranteed a, a spot in for the sorority. You're basically guaranteed an invitation to join that sorority because your mother was in that sorority. Yeah. So it's basically, I mean, it's not the same thing, but it is.

You cannot be denied in that sorority because your mother was in that sorority kind of thing. So it's basically the same thing, I guess. Like a seed thing. Yeah. I mean, unless, you know, your mom lit the sorority house and find her, then they're gonna let you with that. Exactly. That would be sick, by the way. Yeah. [LAUGHTER] Yeah. I think that's why it's so interesting, this discourse in 2023 because it's kind of in the practice of the world and rich people keep other people red, right?

And their families and that growth and wealth continues to grow that. Now, while we've talked a little bit about our thoughts on depotism babies and the discussion on the internet, we're going to do something a little bit different today. We're going to get a little goofy over here. A little silly goofy summer. Silly goofy mood, you know? We're going to get a little kooky. And what we're going to do today is a little game I have coined called NEPO Baby Apocalypse Car.

And we're going to pick four depotism babies that were throwing in our little safety car. We're taking them to greener pastures in the apocalypse. And the rest, we're leaving them exposed to the elements. Now, I want to be able to appear into your psyche a little bit. So we're also going to make the case as to why that NEPO baby deserves a spot in the car versus those other NEPO babies. We're going to put it right back at him. I love it. I love him.

Some of these reasons are going to be very shallow, by the way. I love it. It's your apocalypse. Very selfish. You're living it, baby, you know? That's right. And we're all the drivers. So we're in the car with the apocalypse. We're in the car. There's no more society who's going to judge you. It's just for NEPO to some babies now. OK. [LAUGHTER] So I'll save mine for a last, but I'll let one of you two start. Nicole, you start.

OK. So yeah, some of the driver driving like crazy NASCAR driver made trying to get us out of the apocalypse. So in my passenger seat-- Cream on the inside. Cream on the outside. [LAUGHTER] In my passenger seat, I got Miss Miley Cyrus. Oh, love it. This isn't my reason, but the reason why she's in my passenger seat is because I think Miss Cyrus would be the best in my car on OX. I think she's really playing some bangers as we're all risking our lives to get out of this apocalypse.

I also wrote a little description as to how she is for all four of my people. I wrote a little description how this person is a NEPO baby. NEPO baby. Love it. NEPO. NEPO. NEPO. Let's say NEPO. NEPO. Yeah, NEPO. NEPO Paula, tonight's cream. NEPO baby. That's great. NEPO. NEPO baby. NEPO baby. So she is the daughter of Billy Ray Cyrus, who is an American country singer who is best known for his hit, "Aiki Breakie Heart." Love that song.

So the reason why I saved her is because she's Hannah Montana. Yeah, she is my girl. You were such a good two people. Yeah, right. You get Hannah and I. I'm the best of both worlds in the call. I love her. She's been my A1s and Stay1s since I can remember. She's the baby. The face. I love my way of saying it. She's the face of Disney, so I'm obsessed with her. I really don't have a reason. Don't really need a reason for love, baby. Yeah. She's talented and badass. She's got that raspy voice.

Yeah. Again, she'd be good on ox, so that's my reason. Yeah. Love it. I'm going to say my most controversial one for last. So we're going to scare the person right now. I believe in my backseat. We are going to have Miss Jennifer Aniston. Oh. I know we mentioned before that some of you didn't know she was a NEPO baby, but I actually did. I did. I did. What I mean, I don't think we're surprised that I knew that. And how she is your mother.

Yeah. Yeah. How she is one is that her dad, John Aniston, is actually a Greek born American actor who played in Days of Our Lives, which is ironic because in the show Friends, the best friend Joey plays Dr. Dr. Dirk Ramori on Days of Our Lives. It goes all the way to the top. Yeah. So kind of funny, actually, how that just kind of plays around. But again, I don't think I really need an explanation of why I would say for sure she's my favorite actress in the world. So she's coming with me.

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And that's what I've heard. And that's what I've heard. And that's what I've heard. And I still love her. - I love you too, sweetie. - It's my girl Miss Olivia Jade. - What is she going to contribute? (laughing) - She's going to contribute. - I'm. (laughing) - You know what? Let me just get through my little segment here, please. - Yeah, yeah, no judgment. I mean, major judgment, but go ahead. - She is an Epobaby through both of her parents, actually.

Her mom, Morso, Lori Lachlan, who is an American actress and over her role as Aunt Becky on Full House. And her dad, I'm gonna butcher his name, I apologize. Most, most Seemo, Giannouli, and he is an American fashion designer. And you can find his clothes at Target. - Massimo? - Yes, that's her dad. - Yeah, that was her dad. - Yes, that's her father. - Damn. - And, yeah, if you don't know, you know now, his scandal with the USC, they're rowing team.

- She can't really contribute much, to be honest, but rowing skills. - You know what, she can contribute. She can break her dog who is really cute. He's a big German shepherd, so he can scare away people. He can scare away the zombies. She can make a mean look and avocado toast. She can bring a vlog in campus. - Bring a vlog in campus. - And she can vlog the whole experience for us. - You know, I think the podcast would appreciate that. - I think so too, like some vlogging.

- The whole car is just full of problematic white women. (laughing) - And... - And Mariska Harcate is not problematic. You take a bath. - I'm kidding. - I'm not. - I'm neither John Aniston nor is Miley Cyrus. - It's gonna be great. - It's just a great time. - Of the old. - And I'm not problematic. - Yeah, that's right. - I am white, but I'm not problematic. (laughing) - All right, John, now you need to follow it up. - Yeah, that's okay. - You can roast mine, too, Nicole. - Oh, wow.

- Your sounds, like it'll be a great time. I don't think you guys are gonna live very long. (laughing) - It's okay. - While you're alive, it's gonna be a great time. - I'm going out with my favorite celebrities, so I don't even care. - Yes. - And Instagram pictures are gonna be fire in your car. - Exactly. - The hashtags are gonna be exactly. - All that matters. - Yeah. - That's all that matters. (laughing) - You know, all of your followers are dead. (laughing) - Exactly. - You know what?

- Exactly. - Five people in the car care. - I have four big check marks following me, that matter. - There it is. - There it is. - I love this. - Okay. - Man, you went all in with where the seating placement is. - I did, yeah. But that's okay. I did also make a graphic that we post on our Instagram. - We only did some makeup on our Instagram. - I think you guys are great. - We're gonna post a apocalypse cards on Instagram. - Yeah. - All right.

- I'm gonna free all my seating arrangement right now. - You wanna say someone on the rocks? - That's all. - Okay, you're right. - You're right. - All right. I am driving. (imitating a pig) - Pottle. - Pottle. - Pottle. (laughing) - I hope you do. - I'm doing all that. (laughing) - And now we're all dead. Olivia, your turn. (laughing) - Oh man. All right, I am driving the car in the passenger seat next to me. - Okay. This is the apocalypse. My dear sweet husband died. Zombies got him.

Made you rest in peace. - I don't know if killing Andrew was a part of the assignment. (laughing) - That's because it falls into why this person is in the passenger seat next to me. 'Cause I'm a widow now. - Okay. - And I'm just playing. - Just, I am. - It's just really a, - I have to leave, - No. - Your signal under the top clips. - Your signal under the top clips. - Your signal under the top clips. - And I resurrected him. - Okay. - Okay. - So he says zombies. - And this place looks real.

- No, 'cause then I keep him chained in a basement. - Okay. - If he, you guys do him or something. - Oh right, that's from the Patreon. (laughing) - All right, we're gonna have some apocalypse. - In the apocalypse. - I promise not to feed you to my zombie husband. - Thank you. - In this apocalypse, I am single. And the guy in the seat next to me is Jack Henry Quaid. His dad is Dennis Quaid and his mom is Meg Ryan. He is an actor who is known for his role in the voice, which I really love.

He was also in Hunger Games. And he was in Scream, which I just recently saw. I just think he is so cute. He's so dorky and he's gonna be my boyfriend and the apocalypse. So see, that's why I have to be single in my apocalypse. He's in the front seat next to me just so we can flirt the whole time, honestly. Like, I don't know any of his music tastes, but I have some pretty fire playlists. So I feel like I could just tell him, like, oh, go to this playlist.

Go to my apocalypse playlist and Spotify. They put it on for me. And we would just flirt the whole time. So Jack Quaid, behind me, is gonna be Maya Hawk because she's gonna be my new best friend. Maya Hawk is the daughter of Uma Thurman and Ethan Hawk. She is best known for being on the show Stranger Things, where she won all of our hearts. She's just incredible in that show. And I feel like she would just have great, like best friend energy.

She was also in Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, do revenge blush. She's been in all sorts of things. She's gonna be a great best friend. If your parents are Uma Thurman and Ethan Hawk, like immediate cool, no doubt. She's so cool. She just seems like she'd be just kind of chill and down to earth. She would like, Neg Jack the whole time. So they would have like a friendship in going on, but I wouldn't have to worry about them. - But Killing Your? - She's got big gay energy.

- Okay. - So, she might have to be loyal in your apocalypse. - No, Jack might have to be worried about me and Maya hooking up, but I feel like he might want to be down for it. - He'd watch. - I feel like he'd be okay with it, yeah. Everyone's calling in my apocalypse, because I'm sorry. - Just gonna put a big one into Polly. - To a big gay mobile. - Sean has got a whole RV. - Yeah. - I have an RV, well, it just people that I want to have sex.

(laughing) It honestly is now, but I'm looking at the rest of my list. - Okay, keep going. - I'm not sure how to explain it. - It really is. And then, okay, in the back seat, I have Rashida Jones. Rashida Jones is the daughter of Quincy Jones. She is best known for being Karen on the office and Ann Perkins on Parks and Rec. I just think that she seems really sweet down to earth. And it's also talented and funny.

And I feel like she's one of those people that you forget is a quote, "Nepo baby" because she has kind of carved out this career for herself and kind of made it on her own. I mean, she went to Harvard. She's brilliant. She should be able to know how to like scrounge for food. I feel like I get mom energy from her too. She probably know how to start a fire, which I've never actually done. And I'm gonna be too busy, like having sex with Jack. - What do you think they teach at Harvard?

- How to start fire. How to scrounge for food. - Definitely. - Definitely how to distance yourself from Quincy Jones. Those three things. - Cool. - Perfect. - So it's gonna be great. It's gonna be a great time. - Okay. - And then the final person in my Nepo baby mobile is also gonna be there just to have a silly goofy time. And I don't know if he's gonna contribute anything super important besides just, I enjoy him. But it's Dan Levy. - Yes. - His father is Eugene Levy.

He is best known for being David Rose on Shits Creek. And just being delightful. - Is he best known for that? I would say he's best known for American pie. - Well Eugene Levy is, we're not done with Levy. - Oh, okay. I thought you were saying Eugene. - I was saying Levy on American pie. - Oh my god. - It's just a wee little baby. - Baby, he's just in play-thing. - Yes. - Little bit bit.

- No, Dan Levy is gonna be, cut these are all just friends that I just wanna hang out with and maybe survive a little bit. - Okay. - Nicole's car is definitely dying before I die. (laughing) - My car's not gonna make it much longer. - I'm not here for the survival. I'm here to have a good time, not here for a long time. - I'm here for a good time, not a long time. - Yeah. - All right. - So yeah, that's gonna be my Nepo mobile. - I didn't know I was just gonna have to survive.

- Okay. - I'm sorry. - I don't mean your ass. - Nicole's super. - Nicole's super just driving off a cliff together, but it was a good time before that. - Okay. - You know. - I'm just wearing that selfie. (laughing) - It's gonna be one of those selfies if the Oscars or if the, what's that really pretentious fashion show that my painting is from? - The Macau. - There you go, thank you. Were they all getting the bathroom and they're all vaping and taking selfies? That's Nicole's car.

- Yeah. - The Macau of Bathroom Selfie. - I'm not mad at it. - I'm deeply into that. - Yeah. - Okay, cool. So as a creator of this game, I think it's really interesting all the different approaches that we took to this. (laughing) - Nicole wants fame and I wanna get laid. - Yes. - And as mine goes on, you're gonna see mine's just a great big mess. But we're going to destroy it. - We're gonna destroy it.

- If you've listened to any of these podcasts that I've been on or these episodes, you're not gonna be surprised by this one bit. But my first person who's gonna be right in the shotgun, right next to me drew Barrymore. And the reason is that woman has been through some stuff. I think she's gonna be the motivator, the mediator and keep everyone up. You know, like, hey, we can get through this. First, we're gonna do that. She's so loving. You know, so we're gonna have trauma from this apocalypse.

And you know, I think Drew Barrymore knows how to deal with it because she said, - You're already out living in Nicole, which Drew Barrymore and you're gonna have. - Yeah, right. - Emotional wellness means physical wellness. So that's where we were thinking. - Absolutely. - You would be barefoot the whole apocalypse. (laughing) - Yes, we're touching grass, we're running in the rain, we're embracing life and every moment that we have there. So that was my first thought.

Now Drew Barrymore's father is John Drew Barrymore. So he was, you know, a famous actor before. He kind of fell off and was an alcoholic. For my next nepo baby, which I think some people are surprised by this one, we're gonna go with Jane Fonda. And so Jane Fonda's father was Henry Fonda. He was in 12 angry men on a golden pond. And the reason that I chose Jane Fonda is actually because of her political activism and her involvement in so many different movements.

And I thought she would be a great person to rebuild the world with, create government. - Yeah. - And a government that is focused on women and women's rights. So A, in my apocalypse, we're living and we are creating a women led world. (laughing) - She is creating a feminist utopia and I love it. And as I pointed out to you earlier, Jane Fonda can also lead you guys in buns and thighs workouts. - Yes, I need to stay toned. I need a nice butt. She's got the tenacity.

She may be a little bit older, but she is still there. Okay. Okay. Now let's just where we kind of go. And you know, things start making less sense about my choices, but a girl has to have, you know, some hope for it all, right? So our next one is going to the queen, the goddess, the most beautiful thing in the world. We had to save her. Miss Zoe Kravitz, sorry. - Oh fuck you. - Sorry, we're throwing you to the elements. If it's true. So Kravitz off beauty alone, we're checking Zoe. Zoe, okay.

- It's fair. That's why she wasn't in my car. It's because I knew that Jack, like, who, if I'm in a car in Zoe Kravitz, isn't a car Jack Wade is going for Zoe Kravitz. - Okay. - And honestly, I might too. - Yeah. - So she couldn't be my car. - And the real reason that I initially picked Zoe Kravitz aside from her beauty is I need storytelling and I want to know what happened between her and Taylor Swift. I want to hear about all their sweet, sweet love they made to each other.

And I just like wanted to confirm the, the gala theories for me. And so she can also tell me. - You think Taylor and Zoe hooked up. - Well, yes. They were actually in the same quarantine pod. She is heavily credited on, I want to say about half of the songs on midnight's. And so she's been really, really heavily involved. She has had a connection to her. They're like a lot of these red herrings them being together. And you know, this is a whole nother episode.

But if you do believe in the Taylor Swift as bisexual, it makes a lot of sense with Zoe Kravitz. But that would take forever. So, you know, we just need the lore. I just need the tea. She also dated Penn Badgley and apparently they did some freaky freaky stuff. And I want to know all about that. You know, it sounds great. - I love it. - Like lots of orgies, you know, great story times. - We had a apocalypse orgy. And then, see I'm telling you, this is where things get a little weird in it.

- No, it's okay. - Every, all of our vehicles are just messes. They're just complete messes. (laughing) And so Zoe's parents, if you don't know, are Lenny Kravitz and Lisa Bonet, both also beautiful creatures who made an even more beautiful creature. So we're letting that live on. Beauty lives in my apocalyptic world. (laughing) - And then, you know. - We're also shallow, you guys, so like, (laughing) - And then, you know, again, we're rebuilding a society.

And I'm going to take that one on my own back, or I guess, in my own tummy, and that's why we're bringing. Alexander Skarskard. (laughing) - Not just-- - You're taking one for the team. - Yeah. - Not, yeah. - Taking one for the team, you know. So, not just because I want to repopulate my apocalyptic feminist utopia, but I do think after being Eric Northman and Tarzan and a Viking god in a movie, you know, he's gonna be pretty well suited to at least fight a slow-moving zombie, right?

You know, if they're like, if they're like world-worthy zombies, maybe not, but I do think you would have a chance. - Yeah, these running zombies hell now. - Yeah. - I do think you would have a chance. And, you know, it could be fun. All of us, you know, whatever. But if you're not aware of how he is an epitome baby, his father is Stellen Skarskard. He's half-brothers with like Bill Skarskard, Peter Skarskard, all those individuals. So, Stellen Skarskard is like the Nick Cannon of Sweden.

If you didn't know, he's got a lot of different baby mamas. - Oh my god. - Stellen Skarskard is known for roles in like Goodwill Hunting, Mama Mia is probably like for a female listeners where he's going to ring the most at. But, you know, in this feminist utopia, we have, we have it all, we got our therapist, we got our, our governess, and then we got our hot people who are gonna repump in the world with me. So, I love your car.

- And now you're making me think like, I went on and on about Jack Quaid. - Yeah, Bill Skarskard. - Oh my god. - I know. - Oh. - Yeah, all three of us just pass him around our car. - Wait, no, I have a suggestion. - Ooh, yes, the cause of suggestion. - Why don't we act like the president of the United States and have all three of our cars just like follow each other? And then once we get to like rest stops, we just like change cars, like change our passengers. So then we can do that. - Oh, sure.

- But then like, we're gonna be in a commune. - Yeah, but we're gonna follow each other. - I don't know if Jack Quaid does it for me. - Well, we don't have to like share. - And he can't, like sleep with him. - Yeah. - You can't stay in the car. - Okay, okay, fine. (laughing) - The pop culture junkie motorcade. - Okay. - Okay. - We're all, yeah, in the car, and then we switch partners. And then we all swap besties and sexual partners. (laughing) And then if we ever have to camp out, I love this.

Actually, I love this. - Yeah. - Camp fires. - Yeah. - Pop culture solved. - Yeah. Oh my god, yeah, we could just have like one big campfire. I'll just tell our own little ghost stories together. - Yeah. - But then our car rides will be separate, but our campfires will just be all one big campfire with each other. - I love this. - Eventually it's just the three of us hanging out and all the celebrities are dead. - Yeah. - They're all just so terrible.

(laughing) I'm okay with that too, to be honest. - I'm okay with that too. - They're money against them, and we're like the poor people win. (laughing) - Eat the rich, we're gonna eat them in the end. - Which it becomes like yellow jackets and we're so starving. That's another good question. Who would you eat first in your car? - I love you, Jade. (laughing) - I think we all agree that we're all eating a libyajate in the motorcade. - Yeah. - Sorry.

- I would probably say, God, sorry, Jane, but you've lived a long life. (laughing) - I know she doesn't have meat on her. - We'd fatten her up, okay? - I'm gonna go hashtag feminism, and I'm gonna eat Jack Quay. (laughing) - You just say it. - Yeah, I love it. - I can't eat my girlfriends. I can't eat Raschita Jones. I can't eat Maya Hawk. Dan Levy is also one of my hashtag girlfriends, and we would be like, you served your dick purpose, and now we need to eat you.

- We have a lot of-- - A lot of-- - A lot of applied children were good. - Thank you. - We're good, honey, especially because of libyajate cars, Alexander Skarsgard, and so I'd be like, "I'm just a complete share." - Yeah, and so we got it, so I think tall, vikings, children, yeah. - Yeah, exactly. - And I thought, "I think Dan Levy might be pan, so he might do it." - He might do it. - Did he?

- Yeah. - Yeah, so Lister is, we're gonna post our Apocalypse cars on Instagram, we want you to vote which one you're going in, Shana, Nicole, or I as car. I think we're ready to drive off into the Apocalyptic Hellscape now. So as we wrap up this episode, where can the Lister find you guys on social media?

- You can find me, Nicole, on Instagram, a TikTok @Nicole_eldridge, and on Twitter @naeldridge14 - You can find me, Shauna Trinidad, on Instagram, and TikTok @shaunatrinidad, S-H-A-U-N-A-T-R-I-N-I-D-A-D. - Awesome, and you can find me, Olivia, on Instagram @livimariez L-I-V-I-M-A-R-I-E-Z. And you can find the Pop Culture Junkie podcast socials on our website, popculturejunkie.com, which has links to our podcast on many platforms, gives you a chance to rate and review us, and become a subscriber.

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