Western Premiers Creating Program to Help Canada Grow Stronger

She's here in Canada and she's speaking about something that Donald Trump was supposed to write an executive order about pharmaceuticals and medication, and he was going to write this executive order that would force all the pharmaceutical companies to cut their prices to the people of the United States by thirty to eighty percent. Okay, there's a couple problems with this one. Between the US and Canada that well nine of medical research is done between the two countries.

One of the reasons why between the United States and Canada that we have some of the highest races in pharmaceuticals out there the rest of the countries. What they what what a lot of countries actually do around the world, with the exception of the United States, is they the government buys the medication and then mass distributes it to

hospitals and pharmacy and pharmacies. Uh thereafter, Thus forcing the pharmaceutical companies to pay a bulk buy an a bulk rate, which means that whoever this country is gets a massive discount on over and above what Canadians and Americans actually pay. Well, the the issue has been for years, who should actually be paying for this research and shouldn't some of this, the these costs of of of health research be spread

around the world. Well, while the United States and Canada team to team to bear to the back of the backbone of that, it has been silently decided that well the citizens of the United States and Canada should also bear the backbone of the cost of all that research. Which case, we usually get the most cutting EDDS research in our in our healthcare to to to begin with, we get it before anybody else in the world has a chance at it. And there are some other reasons

of government slowdowns and things like that. But let's get back to Donald Trump and his executive order. Well, I put both posted a comment back to my friend's video. They said, well, one, Donald Trump seems to have forgotten something and that forgivefulness is that the United States has a decentralized federal system. Yes, folks, it is true, Donald Trump can rate all the executive orders they want in each and every state has the right to ignore each

and every one of them. Oh but wait, if your pharmaceutical company sits inside of a state that has decided to ignore that executive order, you know I have to pay any attention to it. Kind of interesting that way. But when we go all the way back to the three men who created the United States the Thirteen Colonies, which is Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin, and John Adams, one of the biggest issues that they had with the crown

was how everything had to be centralized. They were at the time, it took almost a month to get a letter to go back and forth. So Parliament was deciding what was happening in the colonies three months months after the fact of something actually happening. So they wanted more

immediate action. Well, one of the ways to get that immediate action and to ensure that communication would for a particular territory or state would be more efficient, was to decentralize the federal government so that each and every state could decide on what they needed to do because of

their own living conditions. Thus, two hundred is some years later, mister Donald Trump decided that he is going to write an executive order that is broad sweeping and expecting it to be forced across the country by his federal minions or maga people is unconstitutional. It's unconstitutional because one, it is written in the Constitution how each state is supposed to decide its own fate based on what is happening

within that state. Each state has its own conditions, there's own living conditions, its own happenings that didn't need to be addressed by that state. Okay, so what he's doing violates what these three men want in place. And as far as parties are concerned, it's like that was the beginning of partisanism right there. These three had to figure it all out. There were some other things that were written into the US Constitution that they want it written

into the US Constitution and build into the government. That would eliminate the US Supreme Court. There wouldn't be have There shouldn't have been one, because they didn't want a broad court deciding over the fate the entire country each without having each individual state being able to decide for itself. Mister Trump, if you would have paid attention in physics class, and I should say in Civics class. You would have known this. You would know that. Oh, that's right. I forgot.

When Donald Trump is asking about defending the Constitution, He's like, I never took an oath to defend the Constitution. So he doesn't even know that he has that he's supposed to defend the Constitution. He doesn't even acknowledge that really did the document actually even exist? So everything I just said is moved. Anyway, Let's move on. We're going to go back to Canada and uh, we're gonna talk. We're gonna hear from two premiers to the top premiers of

the West, shall we say, mister David eb and Danielle Smith. Uh, the premiere of British Columbia and the premiere of Alberta. Okay, Alberta. Hey, their resource drilling literally drilling and mining province. That is their thing. More specifically with their biggest operation in the drilling and mining is the tar Sans, which produces beechamen, which is a form of crude oil develop by steam blasting the tarzans until the oil is actually released. Okay,

it does sound like an environmental nightmare. That's what you're thinking, right, It is that Alberta releases tons of carbon into the air every year. Matter of fact that Danielle Smith and her Minister to the Environment have come up with a plant that would actually cap off how much carbon each company would pay for at about ninety five million tons. I believe it was. Let me look that up to be certain. Yeah, they're freezing the price at ninety dollars

per ton of emissions. I've kind of got that wrong. Simply simply put that businesses have to be able to operate and believe it or not, as far as the petroleum itself is concerned, the world actually does need it. Everybody concentrates their focus on the petroleum needed to be turned into fuel. But one of the biggest uses of gasoline, yes I did say gasoline. You know that petroleum mixture that we pump into the cars. One of the biggest uses for it is actually creating ny lone polyester fibers.

Next biggest use for it before we even get to using it as fuel. Next biggest one is plastic. Different types of plastic resins are developed, again using refined petroleum gasoline, so that we have the plastics that we need to create the things that we have in our society. Yes, take a look at your cell phone. The plastic in it was developed from gasoline. Thus the tarsands is always going to be needed as long as we need to keep creating plastic. It doesn't matter if you're going to

try to recycle it or not. It's going to be there. So we need to add, Yes, albert and Nice to control their emissions. They need to make sure that the companies that are actually doing this work are actually controlling their emissions and keeping them down. Yes, absolutely true. And if you ask Danielle Smith, he will tell you that that is absolutely true. If you ask their their Ministry for the Environment, they will again tell you that that

is absolutely true. It has to has to stay under control. But and here's the caveat is it also has they have to be able to operate. So there are some things that carbon capture technology. Alberta is one of the front runners in that carbon technology. If we look at China and we look at the sunrise in China, in the all day sun in China, you see this literitybitty dot like it's a forest fire forever happening. That's the sun.

If you go to Alberta and you look up in the sky you will see bright sunlight, which means that these companies are acting responsibly, that they are doing what they're supposed to do in order to capture that carbon so it doesn't keep getting released into the air. They are acting as clean as possible. It's dirty work. Okay, so I'm defending the Alberta a little bit. But anyway, the folks Alberta, and you're gonna hear more from the Minister of the Environment for Alberta as she also explains

a little bit more about that. So it's dirty work. It needs to it needs to be cleaned up. Yes, the environment that is left behind for with the tarzans does need to be reinhabrable so that, hey we get we have trees being able to grow again. All right. Next announcement that we're gonna hear from from the western provinces,

of course, British Columbia, the furthest most western province. And hey, you gotta love British Columbia because they also have control of a large bit of the seaports that actually help traffic goods across Canada. So pretty cool province, uh, Premier Mister David Ebe He's making some announcements and what they're doing. There is a healthcare crisis in the British Columbia, not

enough doctors and nurses. Some of that is due to due to the fact that there was a big argument during COVID over well now all the doctors and nurses agreed with the vaccination programs, so they spoke up, they got fired and which created even more of a shortfall than what there was in British Columbia before the pandemic.

So now they're trying to catch up. And one of those things that they're not going to do is rehire those who fought against them about the about the vaccines to begin with, there's some pros and cons to that. We'll say that for another commentary. But what they are looking to do and what and what they're going to make an announcement about is is they're looking to hire nurses and recruit nurses from the United States to come to British Columbia and help shore up that shortfall of nurses.

Which that's a pretty good program because to become a nurse, well, I'm a former engineer and in the nineteen eighties when I got my degree, I had a debt load of over a quarter of a million dollars for it. So nursing is a science degree, and like all other science degrees, it comes with a boatload of debt. And so recruiting nurses from the United States and offering them a way to get a job right away so that they can start paying off that huge amount of debt is a

great idea. So we're gonna hear hear that. And we're also going to hear from a nurse from the United States as she's talking about some of the benefits that it would have to both the United States nursing programs as well as British Columbia healthcare system, that there would be a larger supply of nurses to come in. The next thing, I would hope to see that they would do the same thing for doctors to get more people

into the system. And let's face it, the way things are going with the United States and Donald Trump, who doesn't seem to understand the do no harm of the hippocratic o, and it keeps putting up walls and rope blocks that would disable the doctor to stop from doing harm. They would leave doctors facing criminal charges for issues around

women's healthcare, especially First Columby is a great place. Come on, guys, come up here, be a real doctor, be a real nurse, really help people, be on the cutting edge, and welcome to Canada. So anyway, let's go ahead and listen to what both premiers and their guests actually had to say as they make the announcements about hey, finding finding a new new source for nurses from the United States and ensuring that the environment of Canada stays as clean as possible.

It's great to see so many people here in support of today's announcement, and I'd like to take a moment to introduce our special guest today, David Ebe, Premier of BC, Josie Osborne, Minister of Health, Rachel Taylor's Rachel Smith Taylor, nurse from who is joining us today virtually Louise Ertz, acting Registrar and CEO, and the BC College of Nurses and Midwives, Doctor Melissa Duff, the Family Physician Board Chair, Victoria Division of Family Practice. I also note that Minister

Gibson and Mayor also are here in our group. So without further ado, I would like to invite Premier David eb to the podium to make an exciting announcement.

Really glad for the work that happens here. What I am going to speak to about, though, is something a little bit different. It's about how we get the doctors and nurses to be able to staff places like this. Hospitals and healthcare sites across the province and one of the big opportunities that we've seen is recruiting health professionals

from the United States. The uncertainty that's currently a president in the United States related to the Trump administration presents a significant opportunity for British Columbia in an array of areas to recruit Americans, but particularly in the healthcare sector.

We believe that by recruiting American healthcare workers into our system, they're able to hit the ground running with their experience and a system that's very similar to ours, and they'll help less in our goal of delivering more care to more British Columbians faster. Now. Some of the factors that are driving increased interest in British Columbia that we're seeing include, we believe our commitment and our support for science and the evidence that science directs us to around everything from

healthcare to climate change. That we are jurisdiction that respects reproductive rights and acts to protect reproductive rights for British Columbians, and then we take care of people regardless of how much money they have through our universal public healthcare system. So these are proud and competitive advantages for us, and it is driving interest from American healthcare professionals, and we

have some increased evidence for that. Just in early April, we made significant changes to how American trained nurses are able to get to work in British Columbia, cutting the weight for nurses from up to four months to a matter of days being able to get to work here in the province. Since that early April implementation date, we have seen some significant impacts. Applications from US trained nurses to British Columbia are up one hundred and twenty seven percent.

One hundred and seventy seven nurses have applied since the implementation of this new program, and one hundred and thirteen have been granted registrations already. Since March, just before the implementation of this new program, we've had twelve hundred doctors, nurses, and allied health professionals that have expressed interest in working in British Columbia. It could be attending a webinar or

accessing information about how to apply to work here. We're going to continue to ramp up these recruitment efforts, including direct ad campaigns down the West coast of the United States through Oregon, Washington, and select cities in California. Our goal is to ensure that we're not missing this opportunity to ensure that we're strengthening our healthcare system for all

British Columbians. This recent development in relation to nurses builds on work that we've already done to recruit internationally trained health professionals. We have recruited over nineteen hundred international medical graduates that have registered in the province between January twenty twenty three to April twenty twenty five, and over sixteen hundred internationally educated nurses have registered from January twenty twenty

three to the end of last year. Over the last two years, we've added one thousand new family doctors, connecting hundreds of thousands of British Columbians to the primary care that they need. Now, we know there's a lot more to do, but we also know that there's an opportunity here to really ensure that people get the care that they need. We're continuing our efforts to recruit and retain and train healthcare professionals, including at the new Medical School

at SFU Surrey. My message to Americans who are watching this, it's very straightforward. In British Columbia, you will be valued, your principles will be respected, and you will have the opportunity to provide care to people, not based on how much they earn, but based on the level of care that they need. You will be part of building healthy communities in the best place on Earth, and you are very welcome here. I say, just briefly, President Trump's loss

is British Columbia's gain. With that, I'm going to pass things back to Parlimentary Secretary Chant.

exciting to see. Streamlining the registration process is indeed going to help us strengthen our publicly funded healthcare system here in BC. And like Premier EB said, what used to take on average four months is now done in just.

with a real team BC approach to this. We're going to support U trained healthcare providers through a dedicated set of webinars, a place where they can learn more about living and practicing in BC, the steps that people need to take to move here, to live here, to raise their families here and be part of our public healthcare system.

So we are guiding them step by step, and that means credentialing and immigration, and it's so important that they feel welcomed and supported in every step of that process. We're soon launching a marketing campaign and we will be marketing in Washington and Oregon and California, letting people know about what the opportunities are here in BC. And this is just the kind of bold and solutions based actions that our province is taking, and we're really proud to

be leading the way. For the nurses who arrive here in British Columbia. The opportunities are just tremendous. They are able to care for patients throughout our province and in a really wide variety of settings, so whether it's a hospital or long term care home or health clinic. One example is where we're standing right now, and that's the Victoria Primary Care Network Allied Health Center, a center which

opened in this location on April twenty fourth. It is a terrific example of our team based primary care strategy which we launched in twenty eighteen for healthcare professionals here in Victoria who are part of the Victoria Primary Care Network. It means they are part of a team where they can use their skills to provide the highest level of care to people.

Minister Osborne for their leadership in these bold efforts. To talk a little bit more from a nurse's perspective, we have Rachel Smith Taylor joining us from the US via zoom.

my partner while we were there. The staff at Nanaimo Regional medic Regional General Hospital were equally gracious, offering us informed tours and sharing their dedication to their patient care. The experience reinforced my aspiration to contribute to Canada's healthcare system. As a registered nurse and as an internationally educated nurse from the United States, I'm actively pursuing licensure through the

British Columbia College of Nurses and Midwives. I'm encouraged by the province's initiatives to streamline this process, including the financial

support for credentialing assessments and bridging programs. My goal is to bring skills and dedication to British Columbia's health care sector, supporting communities like Nanaimo, and I look forward to the opportunity to serve and grow within Canada's dynamic health care environment, and I am deeply blessed to have had this opportunity to share my experience with you all.

over nine thousand years. As a representative for a provincial regulator, I also acknowledge and affirm the inherent rights to health and wellness held by all First Nations, Innui and Mayti people. BCCNM has worked collaboratively with the government and other partners for several years now to improve the application process for internationally educated nurses. It's a complex process, but in this case,

a simple solution has created a big impact. By focusing on the similarities between nursing in Canada and the US, things like education, scope of practice, regulatory exams, and by leveraging an existing system, we've streamlined the application process for American nurses without sacrificing patient safety. Before this, we needed other nursing regulators and credentialing agencies to confirm a US nurse's registration history and education, which often resulted in delays.

But through collaboration with our US counterparts, we can now confirm this information through nurses a licensure database that gives us the information we need when we need it. This change has expedited registration decisions as has been shared, but maintains the safeguards to ensure that a nurse can practice safely and competently. In BC. It's a win for applicants

and for British Columbia. I'd like to thank the Ministry for their partnership in this important work and we look forward to continuing to collaborate ensuring we have a strong, competent nursing workforce in BC.

It helps more patients get the support they need more quickly from the clinician best equipped to help. And second, team based care increases the number of family physicians in our community. It allows family doctors to focus on what we do best, delivering high quality, relationship based medical care. This kind of work setting attracts new family doctors and

most importantly, it helps them stay. This upgraded center expands access to team based care by accommodating and attract acting the Allied Health professionals we need on the Victoria Primary Care Network team. It's a big win for patients, physicians, clinicians, and.

they would make here, especially with the dollar. Have there been any concerns raised around ensuring that you can find a salary that works.

seven percent over her previous numbers. The overall interest that we're seeing from Americans coming to practice in British Columbia is the ability to practice in universal healthcare system, the ability to match lifestyle that they're looking for in more rural communities, often an outdoor lifestyle. When I was in Grand Forks, one of the big attractors for healthcare workers to come to work in Grand Forks was mountain biking, for example, and skiing and other types of lifestyle attractions

here in British Columbia. And so what we're seeing is Americans making that decision about how to balance the life that they want to live and where they want to live with the work that they do and the impact they have in community. And for many Americans, the balance is coming up that they want to move to British Columbia.

we have the energy that can really drive this. We have the cheap electricity and the clean low carbon products the world is looking for, and we have amazing people here.

The critical piece for us is that there are cabinet ministers around the table who understand that, who are coming from British Columbia, who understand both the challenges and the opportunities that this province represents, and will enable the Prime Minister to realize his vision by seeing and understanding how critical British Columbia to that vision of Canada.

of the very similar system. We're doing similar work with the College of Physicians and Surgeons. We're going to have more to share about that work that we've been doing with the College separate from today's announcement. I don't know if the Minister has anything specifical she wants to add about that in terms of I don't know if our representative from the College has anking to share about the actual experience of nurses coming up and when they get

to work versus when they register. I don't know you're able to Okay, I mean really, once you're registered, you're able to practice here in British Columbia, and so that just means the only decisions you have to make is where you're going to work and how to get yourself and your family up here.

globally competitive. Our government is committed to supporting Alberta businesses and industry and doing everything we can to ensure they remain competitive across global markets. We will continue to take action to make Alberta one of the most business friendly jurisdictions in North America by removing burdensome red tape, eliminating

unnecessary regulations, and keeping taxes low. Our industry from energy to agriculture not only empower our economy, but the wealth that they generate allows us to provide Alberta's with the essential services they rely on, from healthcare to education. That's why it's so important that we listen to industry concerns and help develop a business environment where they can thrive.

And what we have heard from industry is that any further increases to the industrial carbon tax past one hundred dollars per ton would be detrimental to their businesses and would diminish their competitiveness in the market. As why today we're announcing that, effective immediately, Alberta is freezing the industrial carbon tax under Alberta's Technology and Innovation Emissions Reduction System or TIER, at ninety five dollars per ton of emissions.

This price was set to increase to one hundred and ten dollars per ton next year and continue increasing to one hundred and seventy dollars per ton by twenty thirty. Now, let me be clear, Alberta remains committed to reducing emissions through the development and implementation of new technologies, not unrealistically high taxes, while responsibly powering the world for decades to come. Alberta's Industrial Carbon Tax system TIER has been in place

since two thousand and seven. Our approach has reduced emissions in intensity by over twenty two percent and reduced overall emissions by an estimated seven point two percent while production increased by ninety percent.

per ton by twenty thirty. Now, if industry told us that any increase passed one hundred dollars per ton would be harmful, you can imagine what one hundred and seventy dollars ton industrial carbon tax would do to our industry. That would be devastating to Alberta's economy. This is yet another example of Ottawa overstepping into our provincial jurisdiction with

reckless policies that damage our industry. This is on top of the anti industry and antidevelopment policies passed by Liberal and NDP politicians in Ottawa to cat production landlock Alberta's resources, destroy our reliable and affordable electricity grid, and ultimately to

put Alberton's out of work and ruin our economy. With the change in government south of the border, it is essential that we have a reasonable carbon pricing system, not one that will price our industries out of global markets. By freezing Alberta's industrial carbon price, we are acting in

the best interest of all Alburtons. We are providing certainty, stability and economic relief to the businesses that contribute so much to all of Canada, and we are supporting the energy producers whose expertise and innovation are quite literally shaping the world's energy future. But this freeze doesn't just benefit

our energy industry. It's also agriculture, forestry, petrochemicals, and other industries that make the products the world needs, that contribute so much to our economy and create jobs that enable hard working Albertons to provide for their families.

federal government. They've added costs, increased delays, and effectively hung a close for business sign on Canada's door, whether for LNG, oil and natural gas, or the many other resources that we are blessed with. For years, this environmental agenda from Ottawa was telling Canadians and Albertans that if they just paid more in taxes and punitive regulations, the tradeoff would be that we're reducing global emissions and helping the environment.

Somehow we would be better off as a Canadian economy. Instead, this federal platform delivered a stalled economy and increased costs for everyday Canadians and Canadians have started to ask why while the entirety of our country contributes just one point five percent of global emissions, and yet it wasn't too long ago when we were paying over thirty four percent of the entire world carbon taxes because of this approach,

the largest share of any country. As Premier has mentioned many times, it has been a litany of antidevelopment policy that's only made us a less attractive place to invest and sent that capital elsewhere. It's been a long time for Canada to focus on It's been long time for Canada to focus on a common sense approach like we've done through our tier system here in Alberta.

into the future during tough times. Competitiveness is the difference maker our industries, whether they drill mind, manufacture, process or build are among the best and most productive in the world. Cannot risk falling behind, and we cannot continue to put jobs in our economy at risk with the uncertainty of US tariffs coupled with ideological policy. Over the past months, we have been engaging with industry on the future of

our tier program. We know that regulation is up in twenty twenty six and we wanted to hear how industry felt about what's working well and what presents a challenge. Certainly, concerns were raised about the impacts of a carbon price reaching over one hundred dollars per ton. That is why effective immediately, we're freezing the industrial carbon price. This will provide a stable, predictable and effective environment for companies to

operate and remain competitive. It will also benefit sectors across the economy, including agriculture, forestry and manufacturing, helping reduce costs, grow industries.

last couple of weeks. Thank you, and we are happy to answer any questions that you may have.

it will be pretty clear what the timeframes are. I know that there are several groups out there that are proposing different timelines different questions, and so I'll wait to see which one garners enough signatures and actually gets a petition campaign going before I would comment on that. But I've made my position clear. I support a sovereign Alberta with any United Canada, and it's my job to see if we can get a new deal with Ottawa so that I can convince more Elbertons to feel the same.

So I think that no one's asking these questions in Quebec, even though they do have the party in Quebecco up pulling higher than anyone else and they've just elected twenty four separatist MPs. So I think that perhaps maybe talking to some of the scholars in Quebec, because they've obviously worked through that and they're much further ahead in the discussion than any other region.

sovereignty within the United Canada. So once again, I think that those questions are for the various groups that are putting forward the referendum questions.

to manage this on behalf of Alberta industry. But the price going above one hundred dollars does make us wildly uncompetitive, which is not a common sense approach at a time like this, where the threats from outside our borders are so great, and the world is looking for Canadian energy right now, for energy security, energy affordability, and of course

to meet their environmental goals. So right now we are implementing this freeze and definitely it will likely, as Premier said in her speaking notes, spark a conversation with the federal government. We're hoping that, just as we heard a message about economic growth and nation building throughout the campaign, that this Liberal government is going to take a different approach when it comes to energy production and emissions policy.

by twenty thirty. That's been foundational to the dispute we're having with the federal government is let's coordinate around a twenty fifty target so that you can have a reasonable time frame to implement technology, develop new solutions, see the retirement of equipment. That's foundationally why we're having the dispute with Ottawa the one to seventy. Could it have been

possible if the Americans were following suit. I don't know, but you may have noticed there's a change of direction in the United States since November, which has caused a massive recalibration of everything in Canada. And if we want to be able to compete and integrate with our largest consumer, then we've got to have a reasonable level of increase. So, as you've seen, we're not proposing it goes to zero.

We're just proposing that it stays where it is. Well, we have some kind of recalibration about how this is going to impact the business community. What we have heard from the business community is that it's too high. And I think if you look at Quebec's carbon price, Quebecs carbon trading price is lower than this, and so that is also one of the reasons why we're frustrated with the federal approach is that.

And why does it matter. We're competing for capital with the United States. Those dollars can flow anywhere, and if they if we get too far ahead of where the Americans are, then all of those billions of dollars of investment will not come here and that will impact our economy.

It was a far more activist agenda. We just came out of a federal election where the Prime Minister was campaigning on protecting the Canadian economy and building nation building projects,

so that is different. The other is the threats, of course, an uncertainty that we're seeing south of the border, and so those industries understood the decision we were making, again recognizing I think that it's unfair to artificially increase a carbon tax to benefit a small amount of projects and then leave the entire rest of industry in a position

where they're oncompetitive that is what freezes out investment. As the Premier said, they understood and did not oppose the direction that we were moving in, and we have been very frank with industry over the last number of months just to address the competitiveness and certainty piece. We didn't want industry facing additional uncertainty at the provincial level, so we've been very transparent about the options we're looking at. The feedback that we've been getting on tier, including freezing

this price. It was specifically based on the feedback that industry provided to us.

going to get to success for us. It also gives us the timeframe to twenty fifty to rekickstart the Pathways project with the new government, and if we can get a decarbonized Bitchumen, I think that that also sends a message to the world about our commitment to that. There's three aspects to that. One is, of course, the carbon capture component. The other part is the deployment of small

module or reactors, which is probably ten years out. And then the third kind of last mile approach is having the direct or capture that would allow for us to be able to get whatever missions cannot be abated or captured at source. Those all take time, So I'm feeling pretty optimistic. I mean, I always look back at what was the technology twenty five years ago. I think we were still using I don't think rotary phones had completely been phased out at that point, and look where we

are today. So if you give industry enough of a time frame so that they can continue to invest in those step up or stage step improvements, then I think that we have every reason to believe that twenty fifty is achievable. It also allows us to help deploy some of our techno. Remember, another part of our strategy has been to have an export of LNG so that we can displace higher emitting fuels internationally.

We've taken a common sense approach. They're very appreciative and not surprised at all. There's likely more coming more changes to tier based on the feedback we've been gathering. For now, this is a price freeze, but I think that there is very much a real opportunity to ensure that this is still a destination for those capital dollars to come where we can continue to be not only that energy producer,

but leader and innovation and technology as well. And so more to come on that in the coming months, But for now, what was unequivocal is that a carbon price too high will just drive away investment and hurt our economy at the worst possible time.

growing concern around the increase to one seventy. As Premier mentioned, even the federal government themselves were striking contracts for different agreements at eighty six fifty, and so I think somewhere there the federal government must have known that a carbon price of one hundred and seventy dollars isn't good for anybody,

and so we will continue to maintain our competitiveness. But when it comes to the value of carbon credits, again, there are a lot of factors there too, not just the schedule and the allowance of how many credits those companies are able to use, but how many credits are within the system.

Countries around the world see us as that as well, and so instead of punishing our industry, we want to allow them to grow, thrive, continue to increase production and reduce global emissions all at the same time.

use that to reinvest into technology and innovation. In fact, this year we've been able to even increase some of our investments and the calls for proposals that we've been making in partnership with Emission's Production Alberta because there were extra dollars in the fund. And so I think some of that fluctuation is normal. Again, the most important piece has to be economic competitiveness for our industry perfect.