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Here's the clip from US President Donald Trump, the Prime Minister of Australia Anthony Albanese and the Opposition Peter Dutton all talking about the US/Australia Tariffs.

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Speaker 1

Thank you for listening to Depictions Media Radio.

Speaker 2

Welcome to Policy and Rights. Show up back, welcomer Policy and Human Joy.

Speaker 3

Welcome to Policy and Rights. I'm Kelly Reavern or as DJ Ray if you're counting on me as the Comes and Maples Radio podcasts. Well, anyways, we're going to be talking about both the US President Donald Trump, Prime Minister Anthony Albinizi, and Peter Dutton, the opposition leader, all three

of those combined. I hope you have a good podcast for this kind of information because we're dealing with a lot of things between Australia and the United States, not to mention Canada if you're hearing all of this kind of stuff. Anyways, while I start with President Donald Trump. Now, from what I hear for Donald Trump is that he is well announcings more to new terriffs, not just through Canada, not just through Australia, but mostly around the world for

that matter. But he'll bring out all the coverages through the Australian perspective, through the ABC News in full about the full details of what it means between triffs, not just again, not just in Canada the United States, but also in Australia. After that, I'm gonna give you a presentation of what Anthony Albany's the Prime Minister of Australia mentions about anything on terriffs and so forth, and then I'll bring in afterwards the UH information on what.

Speaker 4

Not just.

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Anthony lbzis he says, But Peter Dutton will say something to that address as well. So there you go, all three leaders leader opposition as well. From albo on the Australia on the response to the tariff, Donald Trump's terrors on Australian imports. Hope you enjoy it as much as I probably will. If you like what you hear, please give me an email send not send a djer. That was my old email, Gums and Maples at gmail dot com. That's g U M. S A N D M A

P L E s at gmail dot com. All right, without further ado, here is Donald Trump sweeping on the new Terrors Agreement enjoint.

Speaker 4

Thank you very much. Thank you, nice crowd. What a good looking group of people. Well, we have some very very good news today and a lot of good things are happening for our country. Please sit down, my fellow Americans. This is liberation day waiting for a long time. April second, twenty twenty five, will forever be remembered as the day American industry was reborn, the day America's destiny was reclaimed, and the day that we began to make America wealthy again,

going to make it wealthy, good, and wealthy. For decades, our country has been looted, pillage, raped, and plundered by nations near and far, both friend and foe alike. American steel workers, auto workers, farmers, and skilled craftsmen, we have a lot of them here with us today. They really suffered gravely. They watched in anguish as foreign leaders have stolen our jobs. Foreign cheaters have ransacked our factories, and foreign scavengers have torn apart our once beautiful American dream.

We had an American dream that you don't hear so much about. You did four years ago and you are now, but you know't too often, and for many years and decades even you didn't hear too much about. Our country and its taxpayers have been ripped off for more than fifty years. But it is not going to happen anymore. It's not going to happen. In a few moments, I will sign a historic executive order instituting reciprocal tariffs on countries throughout the world. Reciprocal That means they do it

to us and we do it to them. Very simple. Can't get any simpler than that. This is one of the most important days, in my opinion, in American history. It's our declaration of economic independence. For years, hard working American citizens were forced to sit on the sidelines as other nations got rich and powerful, much of it at our expense. But now it's our turn to prosper and in so doing, use trillions and trillions of dollars to reduce our taxes and pay down our national debt. And

it'll all happen very quickly. With today's action, we are finally going to be able to make America great again, greater than ever before. Jobs and factories will come roaring back into our country, and you see it happening already. We will supercharge our domestic industrial base. We will probably open foreign markets and break down foreign trade barriers, and ultimately more production at home will mean stronger competition and lower prices for consumers. This will be indeed the Golden

Age of America. It's coming back. We're going to come back very strongly. We're pleased to be joined on this momentous occasion by Vice President JD vance At JD. Thank you, thank you, thank you very much. Are you JD? That wasn't too hard to find. I was looking. You know. He likes to take a low key attitude and usually be said right in front. He's gaining a lot of confidence. Mike is there, and nearly my entire cabinet is here as well as Speaker. Mike Johnson has done an amazing job.

And with the great success we had last night in Florida, we have a majority of seven, and seven's like a lot when we had it at one. You've done a fantastic job, and many of the members of the House and Senator with us. Senators, Congressman, thank you all for being with us. We appreciate it. For decades, the United States slashed our trade barriers and other countries while those nations placed massive tariffs on our products and created outrageous

non monetary barriers to decimate our industries. And in many cases, the non monetary barriers were worse than the monetary ones. They manipulated their currencies, subsidized their exports, stole our intellectual property, imposed exorbitant vat taxes to disadvantage our products, adopted unfair rules and technical standards, and created filthy pollution havens. They were absolutely filthy, but they always came to us and

they said, we're violating. We should pay for it. It's all detailed in a very big report by the US Trade Representative on foreign trade barriers. And I'll just hold it up for you. It's available, and you don't have to pay too much. As I understand it, you'll pay nothing. It's a lot of work, a lot of work for something actually, because it's a special it's a special book. It's very frankly, it's very upsetting when you read it, when you see what people have been doing to us

for thirty years. This all happened with no response from the United States of America, none whatsoever. But those days are over. Let me offer just a few examples of the vicious attacks workers have faced for so many years. The United States charges other countries only a two point four tariff on motorcycles. Meanwhile, Thailand and others are charging much higher prices like sixty percent. India charges seventy percent, Vietnam charges seventy five percent, and others are even higher

than that. Likewise, until today, the United States has for decades charged a two point five tariff. Think of that two point five percent on foreign made automobiles. The European Union charges US more than ten percent tariffs, and they have twenty percent vats much much higher. India charges seventy percent, and perhaps worst of all, of the non monetary restrictions imposed by South Korea, in Japan and very many other nations.

As a result of these colossal trade barriers, eighty one percent of the cars in South Carea are made in South Korea. Ninety four percent of the cars in Japan are made in Japan. Toyota sells one million foreign made automobiles into the United States, and General Motor sells almost none. Ford sells very little. None of our companies are allowed to go into countries. And I say that friend and foe, and in many cases the friend is worse than the

foe in terms of trade. But such horrendous imbalances have devastated our industrial base and put our national security at risk. I don't blame these other countries at all for this calamity. I blame former presidents and past leaders who weren't doing their job. They let it happen, and they let it happen to an extent that nobody can even believe. That's why, effective at midnight, we will impose the twenty five percent tariff on all foreign made automobiles. Thank you, Brian. I'd

like to have you come up here for a second. Okay, I just see him saying he's been a fan of ours, and he understands this business a lot better than the economists, a lot better than anybody. Brian, say a few words, please, would you? Thank you, thank you. It's great honor to have you. Thanks, thank you, mister president.

Speaker 5

I grew up just north of Detroit, Michigan and McComb County in Democrats. My first vote for president was for Ronald Reagan. I thought that was gonna be the best president I ever saw in my lifetime until Donald J.

Speaker 4

Trump came along.

Speaker 5

I have watched my entire life, I have watched plant after plant after plant in Detroit and in the Metro Detroit area close. There are now plants sitting idle. There are now plants that are underutilized. And Donald Trump's policies are going to bring product back into those underutilized plants. There's gonna be new investment. There's gonna be new plants built in the UAW members and I brought twenty of them with me. They're sitting right over here. We support

Donald Trump's policies on tariffs one hundred percent. So, mister President, we can't thank you enough. And in six months or a year, we're gonna begin to see the benefits. I can't wait to see what's happening three or four years down the road. Thank you, mister President.

Speaker 6

Thanks so much.

Speaker 4

Thank you. What a great guy. He got it right from the beginning. He got it before almost anybody else. This group over there, they got it too. And you know, we won the state of Michigan. We won almost all of them, but we won Michigan by a lot. And I want to just thank you.

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All.

Speaker 4

The auto workers were fantastic, the teamsters were fantastic. Everyone who is pretty good. I will tell you, thank you very much. I appreciate it. You're going to be very happy very soon. And you probably see what's happening with all of the not only car companies, but car companies in particular, to see it with all of the ones they're moving they're announcing day in, day out, you're seeing it.

Nobody's ever seen anything like that. With today's actions, we're also standing up for our great farmers and ranchers who are brutalized by nations all over the world. Brutalized. Canada, by the way, imposes a two hundred and fifty to three hundred percent tariff on many of our dairy products. They do the first, the first can of milk, they do the first little carton of milk at at very low price, but after that it gets bad and then it gets up to two hundred and seventy five three

hundred percent. So when they're figuring what's Canada charging, they say, oh, about two percent three percent. But take a look at what happens down the road when you look a little bit, it's not a pretty picture. And we don't like it, and it's not fair. It's not fair to our farmers, it's not fair to our country. And with countries like Canada, you know, we subsidize a lot of countries and keep them going and keep them in business. In the case

of Mexico, it's three hundred billion dollars a year. In the case of Canada, it's close to two hundred billion dollars a year, and they say, why are we doing this? Why are we doing this? I mean, at what point do we say you got to work for yourselves? And you got to This is why we have the big def since, this is why we have that amount of debt that's been placed on our heads over the last number of years, and we're really not taking it anymore.

Through non tariff barriers. The European Union bands imports of most American poultry. You understand, they say, we want to send you our cars, we want to send you everything, but we're not going to take anything that you have. Australia bands and they're wonderful people and wonderful everything, but they ban American beef. Yet we imported three billion dollars of Australian beef from them just last year alone. They won't take any of our beef. They don't want it

because they don't want it to affect their farmers. And you know what, I don't blame them, but we're doing the same thing right now, starting about midnight tonight, I would say, and China charges American rice farmers and over quota. It's called a tariff raid of sixty five percent. South Korea charges fifty They charged different from fifty percent to five hundred and thirteen percent. In Japan, our friend charges a seven hundred percent, but that's because they don't want

us selling rice another thing. Who can blame them, Madam Secretary Agriculture, Great job you did on eggs. By the way, the egg prices came down fifty percent. You got them down fifty percent once we got involved. They were going through the sky, the egg prices, they were going through the sky, and you did a fantastic job. Now we have lots of eggs and they're much cheaper, down about

fifty nine percent now, and they're going down further. We charged two point eight percent for so many things that other countries are charging two hundred percent, three hundred percent, then four hundred percent for If imposing tariffs and protective barriers made nations poor, then every country on Earth would be racing to eliminate these policies. In China would be the first online. They run a very strong country, but they're not first in line, and the American people are

paying a very big price. From seventeen eighty nine to nineteen thirteen, we were a tariff back nation in the United States was proportionately the wealthiest it has ever been. So wealthy, in fact, that in the eighteen eighties they established a commission to decide what they were going to do with the vast sums of money they were collecting. We were collecting so much money so fast, we didn't know what to do with it. Isn't that a nice problem to have? What do you think, Marco? Good problem?

Marco would love that problem. But we don't have that problem anymore. But we're not going to have it very much longer, I will tell you. But they collected so much money they actually formed a commission to determine what they were going to do with the money, who they

were going to give it to, and how much. Then in nineteen thirteen, for reasons unknown to mankind, they established the income tax so that citizens, rather than foreign countries, would start paying the money necessary to run our government. Then in nineteen twenty nine, it all came to a very abrupt end with a great depression, And it would have never happened if they had stayed with the tariff policy.

It would have been a much different story. They tried to bring back tariffs to save our country but it was gone. It was gone. It was too late. Nothing could have been done. Took years and years to get out of that depression, far longer than even FDR had that office right over there for a long period of time. The ramp system, it's rather intricate, was built because of him, and every time you walk up, you think of him. And he did a great job in many ways. But

it lasted long beyond his terms, as you know. But it's not too late any longer. And we're going to start being smart, and we're going to start being very wealthy again. We're going to be wealthy as a country. Because they've taken so much of our wealth away from us. We're not going to let that happen. We truly can be very wealthy. We can be so much wealthier than any country, it's not even believable. But we're getting smart.

Nearly a century later, in the face of unrelenting economic warfare, the United States can no longer continue with a policy of unilateral economic surrender. We cannot pay the deficits of Canada and Mexico and so many other countries. We used to do it, we can't do it anymore. We take care of countries all over the world. We pay for their military, We pay for everything they have to pay. And then when you want to cut back a little bit, they get upset that you're not taking care of them

any longer. But we have to take care of our people, and we're going to take care of our people first. And I'm sorry to say that. And today we're standing up for the American worker, and we are finally putting America first. In sleepy Joe Biden's last year in office to the United States hemorrhaged one hundred thousand manufacturing jobs and the number was going through the roof at levels never seen before. And our trade deficit reached a record one

point two trillion dollars, which is unheard of. Since the beginning of NAFA, the worst trade deal ever made. It was a horror show. I was able to determine it. They all said, you'd never be able to get it out. We had to get approval from Congress to get it terminated. We had to live with that deal was the worst deal, worst trade deal ever made by far. But since the very beginning of NAFTA, our country lost ninety thousand factories. Think of what that is. Ninety thousand. Think about putting

a map up and putting text on it. You wouldn't have enough room. Ninety thousand, I said, is that possible? We had to check four different times, and it was actually somewhat higher than that. And five million manufacturing jobs were lost while racking up trade deficits of nineteen trillion dollars. That was the worst trade deal ever made. As a result of these gigantic losses, foreign nations now own twenty

six trillion dollars more of American assets than Americans. Think of this, than the Americans own of their own foreign assets or other foreign assets. The United States can no longer produce enough antibiotics to treat our sick. We have a tremendous problem. We have to go to foreign countries to treat our sick. If anything ever happened from a war standpoint, we wouldn't be able to do it. We import virtually all of our computers, phones, televisions, and electronics.

We used to dominate the field, and now we import it all from different countries. A single shipyard in China now produces more ships every year than all of the American shipyards combined. Think of that, and it was a business that we used to dominate. We used to dominate it totally. In short, chronic trade deficits are no longer merely an economic problem. They're a national emergence. See that

threatens our security and our very way of life. It's a very great threat to our country and for these reasons. Starting tomorrow, the United States will implement reciprocal tariffs on other nations. It's been a long time since we even thought of that. We used to think about it a lot. We didn't think about it for many decades, and you see what's happened for nations that treat us badly. We will calculate the combined rate of all their tariffs, non

monetary barriers, and other forms of cheating. And because we are being very kind, we're kind people, very kind. You're not so kind when you get ripped off with your salaries. My autoworker friends and my teamster friends, and all of the unions that typically voted Democrat, they're not voting Democrat anymore because the worker, whether union or non worker, they're for the Republicans. Now, that's what happened. But we will charge them approximately half of what they are and have

been charging us. So the tariffs will be not a full reciprocal. I could have done that, yes, but it would have been tough for a lot of countries. We didn't want to do that. I'd like to see the chart. If you have it, could you bring it up, Howard? This is our great Secretary of Commerce, Howard Lutnick. Thanks. So if you look at that China first row, China, sixty seven percent, that's tariffs charged to the USA, including currency manipulation and trade barriers. So sixty seven percent. I

think you can, for the most part see it. Those with good eyes with bad eyes. We didn't want to bring the it's very windy out here. We didn't want to bring out the big charts because it had no chance of standing. Fortunately, we came armed with a little smaller chart. So sixty seven percent. So we're going to be charging a discounted reciprocal for thirty four percent. I think. In other words, they charge us, we charge them, we charge them less. So how can anybody be upset? They

will be because we never charge anybody anything. But now we're gonna charge European Union. They're very tough, very very tough traders. You know, you think of European Union, very friendly. They rip us off. It's so sad to see, it's so pathetic. Thirty nine percent. We're gonna charge them twenty percent, So we're charging them potentially have Vietnam, great negotiators, great people, they like me. I like them. The problem is they charge us ninety percent. We're gonna charge them forty six

percent tariff. Taiwan where they make they took all of our computer chips and semiconductors. We used to be the king, right, we were everything. We had all of it. Now we have almost none of it. Except the biggest company is coming in they're gonna have We're gonna end up with almost forty percent. Leez Elden's working to get their approvals and it's an amazing company, mister way of one of

the great companies of the world. Actually, they're coming in from Taiwan and they're got to build one of the biggest plants in the world, maybe the biggest for that. But sixty four percent, we're going to charge them thirty two percent. Japan very very tough, great people. And again I don't blame the people for doing it. It's I think they're very smart to do it. I blame the people that sat right in that oval office, right over there,

right behind the resolute desk. Whichever death they charge Japan forty six percent, they would charge us forty six percent, and much higher for certain items like cars, you know, little items like cars, forty six percent. We're charging them twenty four percent. India very very tough, very very tough. They Prime minister just left, and he's a great friend of mine. But I said, you're a friend of mine, but you're not treating us right. They charged us fifty

two percent. You have to understand, we charge them almost nothing for years and years and decades, and it was only seven years ago when I came in. We started with China, Georgia. We took in hundreds of billions of dollars from China in tariffs, and they understood. Honestly, Presidency understood. He said, look, I understand, and the other countries and they all understand. We're gonna have to go through a little tough love maybe, but they all understand they're ripping

us off, and they understood it. Prime Minister of Japan, Shinzo was Shinzo Abbi. He was a fantastic man. He was unfortunately taken from US assassination. But I went to him and I said, Shinzo, we have to do something at trade is not fair. He said, I know that. I know that, and he was a great gentleman. He was a fantastic man, but he understood immediately what I was talking about. I said, Shinzo, we have to do something.

He said, I know that, and we've worked out a deal and it would have been a much better deal. But frankly, there were many years left on the deal that was made previous to my getting there, but it was it was something if you look at Switzerland sixty one percent to thirty one percent, Indonesia, Malaysia, Cambodia. Who look at Cambodia ninety seven percent, we're going to bring it down to forty nine. They made a fortune with the United States of America, United Kingdom ten percent, and

we'll go ten percent. So we'll do the same thing. South Africa, oh, sixty percent, thirty percent. And they've got some bad things going on in South Africa. You know, we're paying them billions of dollars that we cut the funding because a lot of bad things are happening in South Africa. The fake news are to be looking at it. They don't want to report it. Brazil ten percent, ten percent, Bangladesh is seventy four percent, so you see what's going on.

Pakistan fifty eight percent, Sri Lanka eighty eight percent. So what we're doing is we're taking not the full. We could take the full eighty eight percent. Thanks a lot. He's doing a very good job. How's he doing? All right? I think you better take it with you. It's not gonna last very long. He's gonna put it. That's gonna follow you down with the wind. I brought a hat just in case he got too windy. But here would anybody like a hat I'm giving I'm not giving you

to a cabinet. I'm giving it to the auto workers. Thank you, fellas. Yeah, that's it, that's it. They deserve it more than our cabinet. Our cabinet has plenty of hats. But you see the numbers. The numbers are so disproportionate, they're so unfair. At the same time, we will establish a minimum baseline tariff of ten percent you notice that on the chart, and that'll be on other countries to

help rebuild our economy and to prevent cheating. So we're gonna have a minimum of cheating, and we're going to be very severe on the people that at the gate that watched the tariffs and watch the product coming in, because there's been a lot of bad things happening at the gate, because the money is so enormous that you're talking about, there's never been probably anything like it in terms of the enormity, and there are a lot of bad things happen at the people that do the check in,

and they're looking at ten year jail sentences. If they do play, we're going to treat them so good. But if they cheat, the repercussions are going to be extremely strong. Foreign nations will finally be asked to pay for the privilege of access to our market, the biggest market in the world, where right now the biggest market in the world. We had a great country four years ago in terms of the economics. We were doubling up on China. We were doing so well, nobody was going to catch us.

But so much of it slipped away over the last four years under Biden. I campaigned on this policy throughout last year and today. That promise was made, and it was also a promise, as you know, that was kept promises made, promises kept to any company that objects to our common sense reciprocal tariffs again reciprocal, back and forth, back and forth, and were I call this kind reciprocal. This is not full reciprocal. This is kind reciprocal. But what we do is we cut it in half. We

charge them. My answer is very simple. If they complain, if you want you're tariff right to be zero, then you build your product right here in America, because there is no tariff if you build your plant, your product in America. And we've seen companies coming in like we've

never seen before. Likewise, to all of the foreign presidents, prime ministers, kings, queens, ambassadors, and everyone else who will soon be calling to ask for exemptions from these tariffs, I say, terminate your own tariffs, drop your barriers, don't manipulate your currencies. They manipulate their currencies like nobody can even believe, which is a bad, bad thing and very devastating to us, and start buying tens of billions of

dollars of American goods. Tariffs give our country protection against those that would do US economic harm. And many people were looking to do US economic arm. Maybe not so obviously, but they were doing tremendous economic harm. But even more importantly, they will give us growth. These tariffs are going to give us growth like you haven't seen before, and it'll be something very special to watch. I am so looking forward to Brian. It's going to happen even faster than

you said. You know, you might, you might say, but it's already started. It's already started. Work's already begun on plants all around the country. And you see that as before. These are big rich companies. We have sixty one billion dollars started on a big plant going up. It's going to be announced over the next two days. And they already started work. Many of these biggest, the biggest companies in the world, they've committed to build, the build to build.

We're going to build, build, build, sir, And they came here to see me, and they came wanted to know if they could have a press conference. They do as many as I can. I'm pretty busy trying to stop Russia and Ukraine and the Middle East. We got to stop that. We're going to stop the hooties which were making tremendous They like shooting ships down and out of the water, seeking chips. They get a kick out of it. But they're not getting such a kick out of it now,

are they, mister secretary. They're not getting such a kick out of that now. But here are just a short list of some of the companies that have already announced and committed to investment. And this is a company that built its factories and its plants in China. Apple is going to spend five hundred billion dollars. They never spent money like that here. They're going to will their plants here. Soft Bank, Open Ai, and Oracle great companies are investing

five hundred billion dollars almost immediately. Navidia, a hot company, is investing hundreds of billions of dollars. They just announced TSMC, the biggest, most important company in the world of chips from Taiwan with no investment from US, is investing two hundred billion. And they said the reason was number one, the election of November fifth, and number two the tariffs. They don't want to pay the tariffs. And the way they're not paying it is to build their plan here.

So we're going to go from almost no percentage. We used to have one hundred percent of the chip market. Now it's all in Taiwan. Almost all of it's in Taiwan, a couple of other countries, but mostly in Taiwan. And think of it, we had one hundred percent. We lost it because of people in that office that didn't do their job. They allowed it to be stolen from us.

Johnson and Johnson, Great Company, fifty five billion dollar, ELI Lilly twenty seven billion, META is investing five hundred billion dollars, while the MAC is investing twenty billion, CMA, CGM twenty billion dollars. And then you have Merk and Clariers, Stallanthis General Motors, Gerospace, Honda and Nissan, Hyundai are all putting in billions and billions of dollars and they're committed one hundred percent. So and we have never had We've never had.

And this is after two and a half months. This is not this is after just a short This all took place as soon as we came out with what everybody wanted to do. You know, I watched the gentleman today on televisions to work with Leia Kokova, respected automobile person, and he said, you know, because they're asking people, they try and get as many negative people as they can, but they can't find them too much. It's pretty hard to find in terms of what we're doing, especially when

they see all this investment. They said, So tell me, what do you think of what Trump is doing from the automobile standpoint? He said, I can't believe it. Somebody is finally he's an older guy, real pro, really top guy with Leiakoki said, I never thought i'd see the day when this would happen, where somebody had the courage to go and do what has to be done. This is transforming our nation. Our entire nation is going to be transformed, not only with the cars, but on every

single other item that's built. We're going to become an industrial powerhouse. And he said that so beautifully today. In fact, I'm going to find out. I'm going to get a tape and Bruce, I'm going to get that tape and I'm going to send it to you out in Long Island and you're going to play it for the people and all your union workers and your non union workers out there. You got a pretty even split, but we have so far it looks like we're going to have

about six trillion dollars of investments. And you wouldn't do that in years in this country over the last number of years, six trillion dollars, and that's going to be much higher by the end of the year. And think of what six trillion dollars is. You wouldn't have even a small percentage of that under this other system. We're going to be an entirely different country. And it's going to be fantastic for the workers, it's going to be

fantastic for everyone. There will never have been a transformation of a country like the transformation that's already happening in the United States of America. It's an incredible thing to watch, and it's incredible to meet with the top people, people that you read about, very wealthy people, or people that are great managers and executors and presidents of big public companies, and to watch the enthusiasm they have now that they

didn't have. They gave up on our country. They went to foreign countries and they built companies are pouring into our country at levels never seen before, with jobs and money to follow, and it's really beautiful. In the coming days, there will be complaints from the globalists and the outsources and interests, and the fake news always the fake news will always complain, but never forget. Every prediction our opponents made about trade for the last thirty years has been

proven totally wrong. They were wrong about NAFTA, they were wrong about China. They were wrong about the Transpecific Partnership, which would have been a disaster. If I didn't terminate it, If I didn't turn that, terminate that United Auto Workers, you would have had no jobs in this country. You would have had no jobs. I was all going to other countries in my first term. They said tariffs would crash the economy. Instead we built the greatest economy in

the history of the world. And again, I have great respect for presidency of China, great respect for China. But they were taking tremendous advantage of them of US, and I commend them for that. I say, hey, if you can get away with it, that's okay. But you know, they understand exactly what happening, and they probably most of them are saying it's about time they did something. But h and they're gonna fight, and they're gonna fight fair.

Everyone's gonna fight. You know. It's like I say to the leaders, look, you got to take care of your country, but we have to start taking care of our country. Now, we can't do what we've been doing for the last fifty years. From the day of my election. The stock market went up in my first term eighty eight percent, with NaSTA going up one hundred and fifty five percent, more than any president has ever had in any term in office by far. And I think we're going to

blow that away. And maybe the numbers won't show, but I think they're going to show much better than even those numbers. But what you're going to see is you're gonna see activity that empty, dead sites, factories that are falling down. Those factories will be knocked down, and they're gonna have brand new factories built in their place. And not only talking about renovating, they're talking about brand new, the best anywhere in the world, the biggest anywhere in

the world. Have a friend who builds car plants, and I said, I want to see the biggest and the best. He said, well, we have to go to Mexico. I said, now, I want to see it in the United States. He said, we're not building them. And then this is a year and a half ago, during the campaign, he said, we're not building You'd have to go to Mexico. When I was starting to decide to run, and I went to

number one in the polls very rapidly. I want to say, I want to like, let's say, in the first in the first hour, and then shortly thereafter it looked like I was going to win, and the fake news was saying, oh, no, don't do this. What they don't know is if I didn't win, they would have really been in trouble because nobody wants to read them anyway. But I tell you what, when when it looked like I was going to win, I announced that I was going to be doing exactly

what we're talking about today. Great consistency actually because I've been talking about it for forty years, but because I saw what was happening forty years ago. If you look at my old speeches when I was young, very handsome, my old speeches, and it people would say'd be on a television show, I'd be talking about how we were being ripped off by these countries. I mean, nothing changes very much. The only thing to change were the countries.

But nothing really changes. But you know, it's it's such an honor. It's such an honor to be finally able to do this. If you look at China. I took in hundreds of billions of dollars in my term, hundreds of billions. They never paid ten cents to any other president, and yet they paid hundreds of billions, so much so

that Biden couldn't do anything. They wanted to try and terminate it because he had a very special relationship with China, you know what their relationship was, he had especially, but the numbers were so big, the numbers were so big that they couldn't do it. So they did ease it up. They did things that they shouldn't have done. They made it a lot more comfortable for them, but they couldn't do it because the numbers were hundreds of billions of dollars.

And I did that, and we were on our way to doing something like incredible, and then we had a very bad election. Happened, very bad election. A lot of bad things happened. So when I said we've got to do it again, I said, we have to make it too big to rig. And we made it too big to rig, and we won in records, and it was

a monumental win. And it was such an honor to see so many of you, like Brian and your friends here with us to celebrate and to more importantly celebrate what we're doing, because that wouldn't be a full celebration if we didn't do this, Because this will be an entirely different country in a short period of time. It'll be something the whole world will be talking about it.

The critics made the very tired predictions earlier this year, but in February, core inflation dropped to the lowest rate in four years, and the price of eggs, as you know, just in a couple of in a month and a half. We were there for four weeks, and the first week I got blamed for egg I said, I just got it. They said eggs have gone up at like two hundred and fifty percent and you can't get eggs, and they were going crazy, and I said, I just got here.

And then we got to work on eggs. We got to work on everything in our great Secretary of Agriculture. You did a fantastic job, Brooke Rollins. She did a fantastic job. And as I said before, the price of eggs drop now fifty nine percent and they're going down more and the availability is fantastic. They were saying that for Easter, please don't use eggs. Could you use plastic eggs? I said, we don't want to do that. We want to and you really came through. It's an amazing job.

Thank you very much, Brooke. You did great. But likewise, an old fashioned term that we use, groceries. I used it in the campaign. It's such an old fashioned term, but a beautiful term. Groceries. It so it says a bag with different things in it. Groceries went through the roof and I campaigned on that. I talked about the word groceries for a lot. And energy costs now are down, groceries are down, Gasoline is way under three dollars, and people are beginning to be able to buy things and

live again. We brought prices way down. We created ten thousand already in a few weeks new manufacturing jobs, and it was that took place in one month, numbers that they haven't seen in a long time. We had virtually no inflation under my term. We had virtually no inflation for four years, but after transitioning over to Sleepy Joe, it went from almost nonexistent to the highest in the

history of our country. They did the highest inflation in the history of our country brought up by energy and bad spending and bad policy, and a lot of bad things happened. How about allowing millions and millions and millions of people to pour into our country with open borders where the it's so sad to see even now, and I see our great Secretary of you have done. Stand up, please, Christy, stand up, Christine Noam and Tom Homan, he's the people

are doing a great job. But gotten them out in records. We have problems with judges that don't want them to go out. They want trend dear Raqwa and they want Ms thirteen the most vicious gangs ever. Nobody's ever seen anything like it, absolute killer gangs. They kill people that don't even think about it. And we put them out. And we have judges now, radical left judges that want to They don't want them to go out, they want them to even be brought back. Let's bring them back.

You've done a fantastic job, and please thank everybody, Homeland Security, thank everybody. Appreciate it. And we now have a border that's the best border that we've ever had, even better than it was my first term. My first term we did good, but this one we really specialized that we've done really well, and we had records then we had with the best safest border four years go, with the best border there ever was, and now you've actually matched it and done even better. And we're going to get

it down the right way. And we want people, by the way, to come into our country, but we want to come in through a legal process. We want them to come in legally. We need more people. We need people to run these plants and to help THEODO workers and the teamsters and the non union people and everybody else. But we need people on the farmers. And we're going to let people come in, but they want to come in, we want them to come in legally. They have to

have the capability of loving our country. Not people that hate our country. We don't want them in our country. And now we're going to pass the largest tax cuts in American history, and that's where we're relying on Mike and John Thune. And we will not cut Social Security, Medicare, or Medicaid benefits, and the Democrats will because if they got in, the entire economy would collapse. This country is heading for a collapse under the people that you saw.

They were horrible. I think one of the reasons people liked the job I have my highest approval end is because I think they're comparing me to the worst administration in the history of our country. So I appreciate that at least. But Speaker of the House Mike Johnson and Senate Majority Leader appreciate it. Mike john Thune have been fantastic, by the way, but they've been working tirelessly on taking the next step to pass the plan for our one

big beautiful bill. I'd like to name it that if you can, one big beauty I made that statement about six months ago, and everybody calls it one big beautiful bill, and it will be that. It'll have everything, the big tax cuts and every incentive there is, and it'll be uh fantastic. And by the way, for the cars, we're asking for an interest deduction on the loan. So if you build the car only in America, we do it, Brian. If the car's not built in America, you don't get

the interest rate deduction. But if you kild the car in America, if you buy a car, if it's built in America, then you get an interest rate deduction tax deduction. And that's a big thing. It's going to be a big thing. I think that's going to pay for itself very quickly. That deduction never happened. We've never had anything like that before. Somebody said, where do you get the idea? Because it's so basic, you would think that would have

happened a long time ago. It never did, and I'm very happy it didn't because now I can say that was my idea. But we're going to get us closer to the debt extension. We have to get the debt extension passed, and I know you're going to be able to do that, Mike, and it's very important that you do that and all of the other things that the Senate Budget Plan gives us along with working because I know they're working together, John and Mike, and the two

bills are going very well together. We need to get our shared priorities done, including certain permanent tax cuts. We want the tax cuts to be permanent, spending cuts, energy, and historic investments in defense, border, and so much more. We're covering everything. These will be phenomenal. There'll be no bill like it. It's going to straighten One bill is going to straighten out our country for many, many years to come, and we said, let's just do it, and

let's get it done. And some guys will love it, and some guys will like it a little bit less because they're not getting what they were exactly looking for, but they're getting a lot they'll never If we get this done, it'll be the most incredible bill ever passed in the history of our Congress and Senate and congressmen. The senators and the congressmen, many of whom are here today, will be very proud of themselves. I really believe that it's going to set us on a whole new prosperous path.

We're going to cut spending and right size the budget back to where it should be. We're going to do that very strongly. Thank you, Rick, Thank you, John, thank you. Oh look look at all of our senators open. Oh boy, that's a nice group of people, but I won't like them so much if they don't get this bill done out. That's a great group. And Congressman, thank you very much. I appreciate it, tremendous people. The Senate plan is my complete and total support, and the House plan likewise, is

very similar. They're moving along pretty much at the same clip. And as soon as you're ready, you'll show it to me and I'm sure it'll have my support. Mind. Every Republican Congressman and senator must unify. We have to unify. We can't be separated. We have to get it done. We have to get absolutely everything we can, and we have to take care of the American people. That's the only thing that matters. We have to take care of the American people first. We need to pass this bill immediately,

get it done, including debt extension. From this day on, we're not going to let anyone tell us that American workers and families cannot have the future that they deserve. We're going to produce the cars and ships, chips, airplanes, minerals, and medicines that we need right here in America. The pharmaceutical companies are going to become roaring back, coming roaring back. They're all coming back to our country because if they don't,

they've got a big tax to pay. And if they do, I'll be very happy, and you're going to be very happy, and you're going to be very safe. We're going to build our future with American hands, with American heart, American steel, and we're going to build it with American pride like

we used to. We're approaching our one hundredth day as president and have been given credit by a lot of people, actually even some of the fake news, can you believe it, which in this case hopefully isn't fake, for having done more in that time than any other administration in the history of our country. In the first one hundred days, I think we've had an amazing in terms of what we've done, what we've gotten accomplished, like to see if we can get that war ended and another war from

not starting in the Middle East. We have to get Russia. They're losing two thousand, on average, two thousand, five hundred people of the day, young people, soldiers Russian think of that two thousand, five hundred through some days, but on average, probably over about one week period, it's two thousand and seven hundred and twelve. They say they're losing those soldiers, they're dying at being decimated, and they're not from our country,

but they're from other countries. But they're human beings. They're from Russia, they're from Ukraine in this period, most of them, and we're going to get it stopped. It's a senseless war that would have never happened if I was president that it shouldn't be allowed to go on. And I think we're being given good cooperation by Russia and by Ukraine, but we have to get it stopped. It's humanity, it's humanity. It's a terrible thing that this will be a very

big moment. I think you're going to remember today. It's going to be a free nation that we're dealing with. We're going to have a very free and beautiful nation to be Liberation Day in America, and it's going to be a day that hopefully you're going to look back in years to come and you're going to say, you know, he was raped. This has turned out to be one of the most important days in the history of our country. God bless you, and God bless America. Thank you, everybody, Thank you very much.

Speaker 7

The unilateral action that the Trump administration has taken today against every nation in the world does not come as a surprise for Australia.

Speaker 8

These tariffs are not.

Speaker 7

Unexpected, but let me be clear, they are totally unwarranted. President Trump referred to reciprocal tariffs. A reciprocal tariff would be zero, not ten percent. The administration's tariffs have no basis in logic, and they go against the basis of our two nations partnership. This is not the act of a friend. Today's decision will add to uncertainty in the Golds economy, and it will push up costs for American households. It is the American people who will pay the biggest

price for these unjustified tariffs. This is why our government will not be seeking to impose reciprocal tariffs. We will not join a race to the bottom that leads to higher prices and slower growth. We will stand up for Australia. We will continue to make the strongest case for these unjustified tariffs to be removed from our exporters. Our existing free trade agreement with the United States contains dispute resolution mechanisms.

We want to resolve this issue without resorting to using these as we do support continued constructive engagement with our friends in the United States. Our shared history, our friendship, our alliance. These are all bigger than a poor de But the.

Speaker 8

Australian people have every right to view this action.

Speaker 7

By the Trump administration as undermining our free and fair trading relationship and counter to the shared values that have always been at the heart of our two nations long standing friendship. This will have consequences for how Australians see this relationship. These are uncertain types, but Australians can be absolutely certain of this. Our government will always stand up for Australian jobs, Australian industry, Australian consumers and Australian values.

That is why we've been crystal clear with the United States about what is not up for negotiation. Australia is a great trading nation. One in four of our jobs depends upon trade. But we will never trade away the things which make us the best country in the world. The pharmaceutical bearing and if its scheme is an Australian institution, a proud labor creation that my government has built on.

The investments we're making in the PBS mean that life saving and life changing medicines which would otherwise cost people thousands of dollars, will be no more than twenty five dollars, a script under labor that will never be.

Speaker 8

Up for negotiation.

Speaker 7

We don't want our health system to be more American, we only want it to be more Australian. The same is true for agriculture. We have made it very clear to the United States that we will not compromise on biosecurity. We will not weaken the measures that protect our farmers

and produce us from the risks of disease or contamination. Indeed, we've made it a priority to strengthen biosecurity because one of the things that makes Australian food and five are the best in the world is the people everywhere know that it stands for quality, it also stands for safety. Another key point was technology. Our government stands by our Media Bargaining Code. We strongly support local content in streaming services,

so Australian's stories stay on Australian screens. And we have no intention of repealing the world leading legislation that we passed with overwhelming support that set the minimum age for social media at sixteen. That policy is about what's best for Australian children and Australian parents. These are our priorities. We stand up for Australia's interests.

Speaker 8

While we have an important.

Speaker 7

Trading relationship with the United States, it's important.

Speaker 8

To put this in some perspective.

Speaker 7

It only accounts for less than five percent of our exports. Other countries will be hit much harder by today's decision than Australia, and because it is across the board with no exemptions.

Speaker 8

Of course, there's.

Speaker 7

An argument actually about comparative impact of this decision made by President Trump that puts US in a position where I think no nation is better prepared than Australia for what has occurred today. For three years, my government has been working to make Australia's economy more resilient and our exports more diverse. We've deepened our economic engagement in Northeast Asia, Southeast Asia and India, the fastest growing region of the

world in human history. We are implementing our Southeast Asia Economic Strategy developed by Nicholas Moore, and I thank him and give a shout out to him yet again for the extraordinary work that he did on being half of the nation that he loves. Our roadmap for economic engagement with India is what we launched here in Melbourne at Monash University just a month ago. This is about delivering for Australian businesses in what will be the third largest

economy in the world. We've signed a new trade agram with the United Arab Emirates. A tribute to the guy on my left here for the nature that what that has done is open up the markets of the Middle East. Through the UAE, we're boosting exports of Australian beef and red meat, expanding trade with the UK, European Union and Indonesia.

And of course we've cleared away over twenty billion dollars in trade impediments with China, backing local manufacturing with our Future Made in Australia Plan, investing in the skills, technology and energy to make more things here and stand on our own two feet. We're building on these actions today. First, we will strengthen our anti dumping regime to safeguard key

sectors like steel, aluminium and manufacturing against unfair competition. Second, we will provide fifty million dollars to affected sectors, particularly through peak bodies such as the National Farmers Federation, to secure and grow new markets for their world class products.

Speaker 8

This work will be backed by five new.

Speaker 7

Business and investment missions to priority markets within the first one hundred days of our second term. Third, we will establish a new economic Resilience program through our National Reconstruction Fund. This will provide one billion dollars in zero interest loans for firms to capitalize on new export opportunities.

Speaker 8

Fourth, just as.

Speaker 7

We are already encouraging more people to buy Australian, our labor government will buy Australian too.

Speaker 8

This comes on the back of.

Speaker 7

The announcements that I may in port kemblack, for example, about procurement of Australian steel. But what this means is that Australian businesses will be front of the queue for government procurement and contracts, maximizing value for local businesses.

Speaker 8

And the taxpayer.

Speaker 7

And fitly, a labor government will establish a critical mineral strategic reserve. I'll have more to say on this over coming weeks. The world has thrown a light.

Speaker 8

At Australia over the past few years.

Speaker 7

We had COVID, the long tail of COVID, and then we had the impact of global inflation. We cannot control what challenges we face, but we can determine how we respond. Australia will always respond by defeat our national interest and our government will always deal with global challenges the Australian way, standing up for our national interest, backing our people and building for the future. We're here from the Foreign Minister and the Trade Minister, then happy to take a few questions.

Speaker 9

Thank you very much.

Speaker 1

Thank you very much, Prime Minister. It's good to be here to respond to this announcement with both you and my colleague Senator Farrell Well. Today's decision underlines that we do live in an uncertain world and we understand that many Australians find that challenging. But what I would emphasize is that our country faces that increasingly uncertain world with independence, with resilience, and with more choices.

Speaker 8

And this is what we have.

Speaker 1

Been focused on over these last three years, doing the hard work of building common ground in more diversified partnerships, not just relying on what we've done in the past to keep working in a different world. So we are

deepening our cooperation with traditional partners and allies. But we have also, as the Prime Minister has outlined, strengthened Australia's relationships across our region where our prosperity and our security are most on the line, with India that has overtaken the United States as our fourth largest trading partner, with Japan and Korea, with Southeast Asia, which will soon be the world's fourth largest economy, where we are implementing the

Southeast Asian Economic Strategy to twenty forty that the Prime Minister described, and with the Pacific, where we have delivered transformational partnerships after the previous loss decade under Peter Dutton and the Coalition. I would also say we see from the decision today that some of the countries of our region are the hardest hit by these tariffs, and we do not underestimate the disruption the decisions will have on the economies of our region and the global system.

Speaker 10

But we face those.

Speaker 1

Challenges calmly and maturely. We certainly won't be picking fights in our neighborhood. Our approach is to be credible and mature, to deal calmly with these challenges and to seize the opportunities that lie ahead. And we succeed succeed best in this pursuit when we stand together as Australians, when we

stand up for Australians together. So I would say this, this is a day for anyone who is a political leader or who aspires to be a political leader, to be part of that unity and stand with us for Australia.

Speaker 11

Thank you, thanks Prime Minister, and thanks thanks Penny Alban. Easy government will do two things from this point onwards. Number one, we'll continue to engage with the United States to seek to remove these unfair ten percent tariffs on Australian goods. We believe that it's by negotiation, by discussion, by sitting down and explaining to people the issues at hand, that we can best present the case for Australia for

these tariffies. On our program of expanding Australia's trade relationship in this three year term, we've introduced a new free trade agreement with the United Kingdom that's already doubled our trade with the United Kingdom in the case of beef,

a five hundred percent increase. We've established a new free trade agreement with India that's already delivering significant benefits to both our agriculture and manufacturing sector, and we're on the cusp of another agreement to expand our relationship with India. Minister mentioned, we've got a new agreement with the United Arab Emirates. Think of the United Arab Emirates as the woolies in the Middle East, and we're getting every product in there tariff free. Then you can get it to

all of the countries in that region. On Monday afternoon, I'm talking with my European counterpart. We all know what happened the last time we had discussions with the Europeans. I think things have changed and the opportunity to have further negotiations about a free trade agreement on better terms than have been previously offered now exists and we should take that opportunity. In the last month, I've spoken to all of our major trading partners and we're going to

continue expanding our trade opportunities with them. I've also had the opportunity to speak to all of the affected industries. By these decisions, the Prime Ministers outlined the way in which we are going to continue to support those industries, but in particular push them out the door into new markets.

Speaker 10

That's what we've got to do.

Speaker 11

It's a change world, but we have to push Australian companies out into the world. Why is that well, because we know that if you're an export focused company, your profits are higher, but more importantly, the wages of your staff are higher. So we have now a renewed opportunity. People want to talk to us, we want to talk to them. It's all about expanding our opportunities to get our wonderful food, wine and manufacturing product into the rest of the world.

Speaker 10

Thank you, Thanks very much done.

Speaker 7

We're going to go to Paul, then in Geira, then we'll sort of go to and.

Speaker 12

From You talk about bus decision having consequences to how Australians perceive for relationship. What are those consequences and given we've got a minimum techs out, do you consider that a relatively good deal or the best.

Speaker 10

We could have gone.

Speaker 7

There's no doubt that there's no one who's got a better deal and will see that themselves. That doesn't mean it's a good thing. It's very clear that President Trump was determined to go down this road. We have made very strong representations ministers, our ambassador and people in the embassy, people at departmental level. We have used every asset at our disposal. But what it does mean, it's a bit like what I was saying, Yes, say steel and aluminium.

There's not more steel or olminium being produced in the United States today than there was in February.

Speaker 8

If you have a tariff across the board that has.

Speaker 7

A comparatively neutral position for imports coming in, and indeed some countries have higher tariffs. Candidate for example, which is another major exporter ofinium to the United States. This position is the minimum as ten percent. Norfolk Island, interestingly, is I think twenty nine percent. I'm not sure what Norfolk Island major exports are to the United States and why it's been singled out, but it has on the table

which is there, but it is across the board. It's quite clear that the Trump administration was determined to do this.

Speaker 13

And we're going to bring in Jacob Greeban now, who is at Parliament House for us this morning. Jacob, it is difficult, I think, to think back to find another event on the global stage that has a potential to upend an Australian election campaign. What will the major parties be making of this this morning, Well.

Speaker 14

They've been bracing for this for some time, James. I think there was a really important comment by the Prime Minister in the Q and A part that we caught where he pointed out that no one has actually got a better deal than Australia, or another way of saying it is it could have been worse for us. We're actually only getting ten percent across the board. There doesn't appear to be any other country that is being hit

less than that. So I think that's a really important political statement because he's going to come under attack from the opposition for not having done enough to avoid these tariffs, for not having had the connection with the White House, with Donald Trump himself in person of course Mody, the Japanese Prime Minister. They all made the trek and they are facing much larger tariffs than Australia is. So the Prime Minister, inasmuch as this is bad news, will be

portraying this as a relative win. And he did make the point that comparatively, America is only five percent of our exports. Our nation is prepared and ready to counter the effects of this. They've put a billion dollars aside for loans to get some of our affected exporters into new markets. They're talking about a trade mission to all of these markets within one hundred days after the election.

Speaker 4

So they've got a.

Speaker 14

Plan, they say, and they're rolling it out to try and counter this. And I thought the other thing, James and Emma, the language was very strong. He came as close to saying Donald Trump is completely off the reservation as you can in diplomatic speak. Not only did he say this is not the act of a friend. It's

a poor decision, totally unwarranted. And here's the killer. A reciprocal tariff on Australia would be zero, not ten percent, So the tariff has no basis in logic from the Prime Minister's point of view.

Speaker 15

Jacob, as we're speaking to you, we understand we do have the media conference with Anthony up an easy back, so I think we will possibly go to that right now.

Speaker 7

There's less action against its imports in the United States than Australia. That's an important point. We'll continue to engage constructively with President Trump and East administration.

Speaker 1

Can I just respond very briefly to two points. First, Australia has a consistent position. We believe in free and fair trade because we know trade fuels Australian jobs and Australian profits. So we think that is a good thing, and so we will always advocate with whomever for more open access to markets. The second point I'd make is the point the Prime Minister made in his opening statement. Our shared history, our friendship, our alliance, the US status

is our most important and principal strategic partner. These are all bigger than this decision.

Speaker 10

Thank you. Latika. Just a couple of points.

Speaker 11

Can I make the distinction between what happened with China and what's happening here. When China imposed a two hundred and twenty percent tariff on Australian wine that killed wine exports the next day stone dead, That's not what's happened here. Australian wine will now apparently go into the United States at a ten percent tariff. We'll still continue to sell wine into the United States.

Speaker 10

Well, from what I can.

Speaker 11

See, that is not what the President Trump has done today. But let's put beef to one side. In respect of all of the products. We will continue to sell our product into the United States. What we're going to do is look for other markets as well to sell our products in. Now, you're right, the agreement with the European Union did fall over over beef imports into the EU. The world has changed as of today, the world has changed for Europe. Europe is now sadject to a much

higher tariff into the United States. If they're sensible. If they're sensible, they will make us a better offer on the issues that made the agreement fall over last time, and we will get a free trade agreement with the EU, the largest economy in the world.

Speaker 7

We've got a couple more over here I've said Tom and Trudy than Charles, and then we'll go to this side of Tom.

Speaker 16

Do you have any early idea Europe this sort of economic kid astamily you can expect as a result of this car so you're confident that can be avoidable together And just quickly, if here is the pharmaceuticals and billion have been tarred out in the ten percent parents globally, is that a good outcome for Australia, given aside other explolts and those aero scers vis.

Speaker 7

Obviously I have more to say about pharmaceuticals very soon later this morning, to give you a bit of a tip off of where we're headed next.

Speaker 11

But we.

Speaker 7

We regard this because it's universal. Of course, will await an assessment to be fair to us. We're out of respect to you standing up less than half an hour after President Trump's press conference, where of course.

Speaker 8

Will analyze the impact.

Speaker 7

But importantly, no country that imports to the United States will have less tariffs than Australia. That's an important point of what has arisen out of today.

Speaker 8

Truth Just certainly back to the beef issue.

Speaker 17

Donald Trump seems to make a big sum of dance about Australia banning US beef imports here, is there any willingness from our side to loosen that over time or is that a redline for you know USB.

Speaker 7

Well what we have done in the negotiations as well. The beef issue was about mad cow disease to give it its colloquial name, and about all also the fact that beef to Australia couldn't be guaranteed whether it had also come from Canada or Mexico as well. So it was those issues that we're working through. Those issues are being worked through. There is currently frozen beef can come

into Australia. We certainly, in the discussions we've had with the United States put a position that was consistent with ensuring our biosecurity is looked after, then we would give consideration.

Speaker 8

But that didn't progress and so that is where we are at this point.

Speaker 18

US Minister, how did you find out about the tariffs Australia would be receiving and given India, Japan, South Korea, Vietnam Cambodia have all received high tariffs, does this make our job as like minded democracies in the region harder back against China.

Speaker 7

There's no doubt that the response on a range of issues, but action on climate change as well as trade issues will affect the strategic competition that's here in the region.

Speaker 8

There's no question that that will occur, and.

Speaker 7

Countries will have their own assessments of that. We've been expecting this decision. We put a position to the United States. The United States responded, We responded to them.

Speaker 8

There's been a series of written to and fro if you like.

Speaker 7

There's been negotiations with mister Luttnik and with others in the United States as well, So this came as no surprise to us. We have prepared for a period of time. The response, a five point response that you will were announced this morning. We met as leaders last night and again had contact this morning with obviously the relevant ministers as well as our economic ministers just here.

Speaker 19

Given structural issues with the WTR, what confidence do you have that any complaints is really there to.

Speaker 20

Be progressed for one minutes of file.

Speaker 19

You walked away from negotiations last time with the EU. Will you walk away again if they won't offer greater market access.

Speaker 17

For our product?

Speaker 7

These take some time the wto We know that that's the case. Our free trade agreement with the United States does have dispute resolution mechanisms. We want this to be resolved in a way that avoids those contests. And if I can be so bald as the end, so on your behalf, we will always stand up for our national and enters. The agreement with the EU wasn't good enough, we walked away. If it's good enough, we'll sign up.

Speaker 8

Just here we're going just so.

Speaker 10

Test cats answer. The answer is yes, yeah, And how should.

Speaker 21

You include a strategic reserve of critical minimals that you could that be abardoning, which is in trying to get a better.

Speaker 7

View for Australia from the White House Australian strong position. We've got the whole periodic table just about in this country.

Speaker 8

That's a good thing.

Speaker 15

Peter Dutton's be on TGV already this morning, just rubbing your inability to get at the phone call as a signify failure.

Speaker 4

What is this strategy now from getting the.

Speaker 22

President on the phone and what a growth ingred morment.

Speaker 8

Can do to is to Australia's taste.

Speaker 7

Well, one is what I'd like is competed up in the stand up for Australia and the back Australia's national interest. This isn't a time for partisanship. I wouldn't have thought. But people will drive their own conclusions about his behavior

that you've just indicated. That's consistent with last time around on our youuminium and steel, where mister Dutton came out and was critical of Australia, not critical of the United States for imposing these tariffs even though they were universal and across the board.

Speaker 8

And Greg Norman is of course the great Australian. I dinner with him last night. He's someone I've got to know over the years.

Speaker 7

He's my nominee on the Olympic Board for the Brisbane two thousand and thirty two Olympics. We are using every asset at our disposal, Ministers, people in departments, our embassy in Washington, d C, our business community links and our other links as well to advance Australia's national interests.

Speaker 21

You to play down your personal relationship with Donald Trump when it came to security in other settings, you know, you talk about dear friendship with that relationship.

Speaker 4

Is that new.

Speaker 23

Consistency and just back to Childs's question.

Speaker 21

We understand that talks have been ongoing, but when when did the White House give you that final confirmational mercy?

Speaker 8

On the first, no, on the second, we were very clear about where this was headed.

Speaker 4

Promise, what is.

Speaker 14

Your message to Australians, including notes inside the labor movement.

Speaker 10

We will see this as.

Speaker 2

Another reason for Australia to start doing that relationships.

Speaker 6

Including reconsidering all this.

Speaker 7

Our relationship with the United States is an important one for us in our defense, relationship with the United States as one that's in our interests.

Speaker 12

We've spoken to keep it around this morning, this announce.

Speaker 7

I've chosen to speak to you first. I came straight from straight down here with respect.

Speaker 4

Well, then when will you speak to him?

Speaker 24

Obviously you conveyed to human.

Speaker 6

Are you confident in advocate?

Speaker 7

I have spoken with Kevin Rudd on a daily basis over recent times, as have ministers. There are some who I make this point about Kevin Rudd. No one can question Kevin Rudd's work ethic. Kevin Rudd works relentlessly in Australia's national interest and he has developed very positive relationships with key people in the Trump administration.

Speaker 12

There seems to be some uncertainty about whether Australian Big expert you will be back.

Speaker 8

Have you or have any government officials had any.

Speaker 25

Conversation with the US officials about whether beef would be targeted and bed.

Speaker 9

Do we know this was coming.

Speaker 7

We have come straight from We've given you respect. Refer to previous answers coming by coming straight here.

Speaker 8

We are aware that beef has been an issue that's been As.

Speaker 7

I said to an earlier answer, this is one of the issues that we were negotiating over between Australia and the United States that did not reach an agreement because the United States did not reach an agreement with any nation I think trust.

Speaker 23

That question was if you have anything that a ban on thee was possible before today.

Speaker 8

We have been well, I refer to previous answer.

Speaker 5

Yes.

Speaker 23

Secondly, the Trump administration's listed tariff rays that other countries imposed on the US puts outand ten percent. You said, it's a big zero. So where has that number come from? It is it just a fake number they've made up.

Speaker 8

Well, they have imposed a minimum of ten.

Speaker 23

Percent at the rates that they say Australia.

Speaker 7

They have made a decision that there will be a ten percent tariff minimum from every nation. That's a political decision. This is not an economic decision.

Speaker 8

This is a political.

Speaker 23

Admistration number saying that Australia has an effective ten percent tarifreight on them.

Speaker 10

Is that a real number or not?

Speaker 23

How did they compilate that?

Speaker 7

Well, I think with respect, I did just answer that this is a minimum of ten percent that they have imposed. It's a political decision that the Trump administration have made.

Speaker 10

A big question.

Speaker 26

The society that have gone frump means what he says, And.

Speaker 10

We all heard them today say there was going to be a ban on USB as a midnight US time. So what information do you have it tells you that that's.

Speaker 8

Not having I didn't say that.

Speaker 7

I said that beef was a part of the negotiation between Australia and the United States in the written agreements that went between our two nations.

Speaker 8

It is one of the things that was discussed.

Speaker 7

We will of course seek further clarity about all of the decisions that are made, but the decision as well is to impose across the board tariffs on all goods entering the United States. We have been single here.

Speaker 27

It was here that you say it was an element of the discussions.

Speaker 22

That was an issue that was raised at any point before this announcement today.

Speaker 8

Did American officials say to Australia we are thinking about banning beef importance?

Speaker 10

Was that particular issue raised.

Speaker 4

In that way?

Speaker 7

There were a range of decisions made, including the United States seeking changes to the beef access regime to Australia.

Speaker 20

That was raised.

Speaker 28

Here.

Speaker 17

And as he spoke briefly about meeting with Greg Norman, but what advice did he give you on how best to manage Donald Trump.

Speaker 8

I'll tell you what advice.

Speaker 7

I would give anyone I negotia with and who we have private discussions with, which is to not come to a press conference and talk about the details afterwards. Look, Greg Norman clearly is someone who is a proud Australian. He's someone who of course lives largely in Florida. He's someone with connections with the US administration, and we are engaging with Australians who have connections with the United States to advance our national interests.

Speaker 8

Last one, sir, he's Jaina Alan.

Speaker 27

Welcome alongside you on the campaign trail.

Speaker 8

Yes, thanks very much.

Speaker 29

The announcement obviously out of the United States in relation to tariffs. I do think this is a bad day for our country and it's not the treatment that Australians deserve because we have a very trusted, long standing and abiding relationship with the United States. It spends one hundred years and we have fought alongside and with the Americans

in every major battle over that period of time. We have a special relationship with the United States and it hasn't been treated with respect by the administration or by the President. And the question now is what do we do to resolve this matter, and to do it quickly.

It's clear to me that in the language that's come out of the administration that there is a discussion to take place, and it needs to take place as a matter of urgency, because as Prime Minister, I want to make sure that we can help our beef producers, make sure that we can help our manufacturers, make sure that we can grow our industry, and make sure that we

can increase employment in this country. And we can do that through a normalized relationship in a trading sense with the United States, and obviously to expand other markets, which is exactly what a coalition government does and has as a priority and always has had. We believe very strongly

in free trade. I've spoken this morning with three major beef producers here in Australia, two of whom are heavily involved in export to the United States and talking about what the impact will be on them and the plans for them and for their company, and obviously they're in negotiations with their counterparts in the United States.

Speaker 10

At the moment.

Speaker 29

It's obvious to us that there is more consumption than there is supply of beef out of the United States domestic market, so that the Americans can't produce enough beef to satisfy what is consumed by American consumers. So this deal is actually going to be bad for consumers in the United States because they require our beef for beef patties and for their market. It's also important to point out that there is no ban of beef coming from

the United States into Australia. They need to meet the traceability requirements and they need to adhere to our strict conditions that we have in place. The next point that I would make is that we have a tunity in my judgment to do to start negotiations with the United States straight away. I think there can be a deal done very quickly with the administration, and I think it's

important the Prime Minister apply himself to that immediately. I think it's obvious that we have and I've made this point, I think in a speech last year and again in January this year, there is a critical relationship between the United States and the United Kingdom in terms of our defense compact. We have troops in the north of our country, we have the Orchest Deal, we have the Aers Treaty. It is a long and abiding relationship and the core of an arrangement between US and the United States in

resolving this matter will center around the defense relationship. The critical minerals that I spoke about again in my speech in January is an absolute must do in the relationship, and the United States to shore up at supply chains requires our critical minerals. So there is a natural point

of leverage for us in the relationship. The Prime Minister hasn't been able to get a call or a meeting with President Trump, but that needs to change and he needs to do everything he can to leverage the ambassador and others to get the relationship normalized. It's obvious that the Prime Minister didn't know anything about this announcement until it was actually released to the press, which also speaks to the state of the relationship at the moment. So I want to make sure that we can as quickly

as possible resolve this matter. I believe that we can, and I'm happy to take some questions. I just want to I just want to make this point first though, the government announced five measures, one strengthening anti dumping laws, which we strongly support, and we don't believe that the government should have weakened anti dum dumping.

Speaker 10

Laws in the first place.

Speaker 29

We support the fifty million dollars of export for export growth and also note though that the government has reduced EMDG funding and broader ex sports support across olds, trade in postings, etc. We support the one billion dollar Economic Resilience Program, but we believe that that is best admitted

administered through the Export Finance Australia Organization. We do strongly support, obviously government to buy Australian and the Government has promised this already, of course, but it hasn't properly been put into action. In relation to government procurement processes, and the government talks about establishing a strategic reserve of critical minerals.

Speaker 10

But it's much more sophisticated than that.

Speaker 29

There is an arrangement to be arrived at and we've been working on this, but it is something that the government can resolve I think very quickly with the administration. We need to do that for our beef producers, we need to do it for every industry here and to protect the jobs in Australia. We need to get this sorted out as quickly as possible. And that's what exactly what we're dedicated to do.

Speaker 28

Seats on the lowest single run of these tariffs of anyone in the globe, of any one. How is that not a victory for our diplomats and for Anthony Albneasy.

Speaker 10

Well, the Prime Minister didn't know anything about it.

Speaker 29

It was first made known to him when it was publicly announced, So that will talk about the influence that the Prime Minister has in relation to this matter.

Speaker 10

I can say this much. I want success in the relationship.

Speaker 29

It's not going to happen if the Prime Minister finds out about things through the press. There needs to be a proper negotiation and a proper consultation. And ten percent is a significant impost and It may not be twenty six percent that other countries have faced, but I can tell you this, there are jobs that will be lost

and there will be economic detriment to our country. And that's why I honestly believe when you read the statement, it says, and I'll just quote this short part from it, these tariffs will remain in a fair until such time as President Trump determines that the threat posed by the trade deficit and underlying non reciprocal treatment is satisfied, resolved,

or mitigated. Now, that is a statement that we haven't seen before, and the focus that we should have as a government and as an alternative government is to do a deal on that basis as quickly as possible so that we can reduce the impact on Australians, on our industry and on our export capability.

Speaker 27

You said you would be prepared to have a fight with Donald Trump or any other world leader to advance Australia's interests, and the PM then called you, agro, is this something you will fight Donald Trump over?

Speaker 10

If elected?

Speaker 29

We go to this next election asking the Australian people to make a choice about who is best able to manage the economy and our national security, and I believe that I have the strength of leadership in the experience to be able to stand up and to fight for us, fight for our country, whether it's in relation to our national interest, in the trading space, in the national security space,

or elsewhere. The Prime Minister has been weak and missing in action, and that's why we find ourselves in the position that we're in today.

Speaker 10

The Prime Minister has a.

Speaker 29

Pathway to an outcome here that can see a better final position for the relationship and for our country, but that has not been pursued so far. So it involves making sure that we can stand up and fight for our position, and I don't resolve from that. I just don't think the Prime Minister has the strength or the ability to stand up to a situation that is unacceptable to us. This is a bad day for our country

and I want to resolve the matter. And the question for us now is who is best able to deal with this relationship, Who is best able to deal with an uncertain time in national security sense as well as an economic sense. And the times at the moment don't require a week leader, and mister Albinezi has demonstrated that again today.

Speaker 10

A lot of leaders.

Speaker 22

Would you have at your disposal to get a call with President Trump?

Speaker 20

If Prime Minister Anthony Albanezi hasn't been able to get one for the weeks months he's been trying, what do you have at your disposal that.

Speaker 29

You could pull? Well again, I think if you have a look at how we're able to negotiate with the Biden administration, how were we able to negotiate with the Trump administration. I dealt at a very high level with the Obama administration. We have the links and the ability to reach into the administration and there is a pathway for a deal to be done, the basis of which will be critical minerals and our defense relationship with the

United States. Now, this is an important point, not one mentioned before now by the Prime Minister.

Speaker 10

And so if the Prime.

Speaker 29

Minister had leveraged this particular equity within the relationship before now, I think we were finding ourselves in a different position today because there is a necessity beef to be exported from Australia to meet the consumption needs of Americans, and so the argument that we're banning imports or that our export is surplus.

Speaker 10

To the needs of the Americans and driving down price. That is just not the case.

Speaker 29

Speaking to the beef producers this morning, the American herd numbers are at historic lows, and that means that they can't meet their own consumption requirements. And so we have an integral part to play in helping America. So we shouldn't be focusing on that being a game stopper. It's not, and it can be resolved. But you need to be able to have the strength of leadership to argue our corner, to fight for our position, to stand up to what is a bad decision for our country.

Speaker 10

And that's exactly what I've.

Speaker 8

Just on national security.

Speaker 30

You're on Mick mlloy's program yesterday and you were joking about the noise made by the Collins Class submarines. You said, quote, you can hear them rattling, rattling down the coast. That comment was edited out of the transcript your office sent out. Are the Collins Class not fit for purpose? And if so, is that really a laughing matter?

Speaker 29

Well, I haven't seen the transcript, shouln't be edited it out, and it was a jovial conversation with mc maloy as you as you would expect. I've been very clear, and I think if you have a look at the transcript and what I've said otherwise in relation to the Colins class, they are best in class, but they run out of work in the late twenty thirties early twenty forties, which is why the government's inability to provide the upgrade is

an outrage. And Richard Marles has just sort of dropped out there that it's not going to be a full life of type extension for the Colins class, and I think that is a national disgrace because we need that capability.

Speaker 10

When we negotiated with.

Speaker 29

The United States in the United Kingdom to achieve the Orcus outcome, we did so knowing that firstly, and the Americans were acutely aware of this, that the work that has been done on the Colins class submarine at the moment is hand in glove with the work of the Americans in our other partners, and we negotiated a successful outcome that was in our country's best interest in relation to UCUS, because the latest narration, Virginia Class and the

Stude class ultimately are going to be fit for purpose and best for us.

Speaker 10

So I think a joke with Big Blowy should be looked, Jo, we're here in Perth today.

Speaker 22

You've been criticized by Collie residents though for not having a discussion with them and hearing their concerns about nuclear power. Will you commit to going out and having a discussion with locals out there and then if I may. You launched the Piers campaign last night and cost of living was another big one. Are you too easily dismissing what five hundred dollars could do to a family in a couple of years time.

Speaker 29

Look, the choice that the election is about the Prime Minister's plan, which is seventy cents a day tax cut and not starting for fifteen months, or our plan, which I think will help people in Collie and Pierce in Wa right across the country.

Speaker 10

Our plan is not seventy cents a day in fifteen months time.

Speaker 29

It's a twenty five cent per leater reduction in petrol and diesel, which is going to save an average family filling up their car twice a week coming into the city from out of suburbs and regional areas. It's going to say the thirty bucks a week. And that's a big difference between what we've got on the table and what the Labor Party's.

Speaker 10

Got on ignore.

Speaker 31

Can I just ask you in relation to the fighting comment, does that extend to moving to the WTO in relation to this? And also you talked about minerals and defense being on the table as part of a deal. Can you just go into a bit more detail around where you see defense as being part of a deal on it?

Speaker 29

Well, the Americans need to continue to manufacture, and I also want to continue to develop our defense manufacturing capability here in Australia, and the government has walked away from that. There are many companies here in Australia, part of the twenty nine thousand small businesses who have closed over the last three years under this government, who have been in the defense space, and our capabilities domestically have been diminished

by this government's lack of investment. So I think it again is a win win in the relationship because I want to sell what we're manufacturing here into the United States and the United States is a willing buyer for much of that product and we already see it with some companies, but how can we scale it up?

Speaker 10

And so that's one of the opportunities that's on the table before us.

Speaker 29

Now we have a huge opportunity to work with the United States on critical minerals. But at the moment there are distortions that take place in the prices. There are nations who are shortening the position of critical minerals to their own advantage, and that makes the investment proposition more difficult for those companies to.

Speaker 10

Produce and to manufacture.

Speaker 29

So the government has to work out what that compact looks like with the producers, with the miners, and that's exactly what we would do. And that's of huge benefit to the United States and a huge financial benefit to Australia, and that's why it's a no brainer. But the Prime Minister hasn't spoken a word about it.

Speaker 8

Mister Dutton, do you think you could have achieved a different outcome?

Speaker 29

I do believe that we could have achieved a different outcome. Firstly, I think firstly, I think there's no doubt that we would have had greater connection and greater communication with the White House, and we demonstrated that only a few years ago. Secondly, we had the ability to talk about the relationship in a more complete way, and that is what are the elements that are of interest to the United States. It is the defense relationship, which is absolutely critical in this century.

Speaker 10

We know that we live in a very uncertain time.

Speaker 29

Seeing what's happening in Europe, You're seeing what's happening in the Middle East, You're seeing what's happening in the South China Sea.

Speaker 10

It is an incredibly uncertain time.

Speaker 29

And mister Alberanezi himself points this out and then takes eighty billion dollars out of defense. So I think there are opportunities for us, and I think that is one.

Speaker 17

Are you willing to commit that as Prime Minister you would get these tariffs removed?

Speaker 29

Look, as I said before, the different the choice that Australians have at this election is between the continuation of the disaster of the Orbanezia government, which has been bad for families, bad for the economy, and bad and bad for the international relationships that we have. On the other hand, what I offer to the Australian people, my team offers

to the Australian people is stability and proven performance. We have the ability to manage the economy, we have the ability to manage our national security needs, and we have an ability to make sure that we can get a better deal for Australia which is exactly what we do.

Speaker 10

Find print ms done.

Speaker 32

According to the fine print of these tariffs announced this morning, there will be certain minerals not available in the US that won't be impacted by these tariffs. So if you can't negotiate with critical minerals, what else are you putting on the table to get a deal with Donald Trump? What else are you willing to negotiate with.

Speaker 29

There is an absolute deal to be done here if the Prime Minister had the strength of leadership and the ability to be able to do it. But he hasn't even spoken about the critical minerals or the defense element to the relationship. It's the most integral part of our relationship with the United States, and we can leverage a much better outcome if we had been speaking with the Americans about this from January twenty or probably before that.

Speaker 8

Don Farrell did put critical minerals on the table.

Speaker 10

Don Farrell has not been able to achieve anything.

Speaker 29

That much is obvious, and neither put critical Neither has Anthony Alberici.

Speaker 10

This is the problem for our country.

Speaker 9

When you talk about the defense relationship, would you be willing to put key aspects of the relationship the presence of American troops here, the Aucust deal purchases from the United States.

Speaker 8

Would you put that on the table to get a better deal on tariffs.

Speaker 29

We've already got that in place. In fact, that was negotiated under our government. So we've got obviously a very strong relationship in relation to August Pillar two as well. Don't forget which involves AI, it involves satellite, it involves GPS technologies. I mean, there are many elements to it, including critical minerals, and that was always envisaged as as part of August two. So we've already got that on the table, and I think and well we've got well,

we're not trading anything away. We want to enhance the relationship and I believe that we're the only alternative at this election that can achieve the better outcomes.

Speaker 26

Mister Dutton, say, in a bit over a month's time, you're the Prime Minister and you secure a phone call with Donald Trump.

Speaker 10

What exactly do you say on that phone court?

Speaker 26

Given it's unlikely there will be exemptions before them, what exactly do you say on that phone call?

Speaker 10

And what do you achieve in that phone court?

Speaker 29

Well, first point is that I think there is a possibility that the Prime Minister can negotiate an outcome within a matter of weeks, and I think that's really essential to focus on here. The ingredients for a successful arrangement negotiation with the US are there in front of us, and I've outlined some of them this morning. But the Prime Minister has to get a phone call now. He has to make sure that Kevin Rudd can actually get

into the West Wing. He has to make sure that there is a discussion about how we can enhance this relationship. And I strongly believe that we can and I think he can do that quickly, and I think that's the main focus.

Speaker 24

For us now for you just on doing a deal the news media Bargaining Code and raising the social media age limit who've been identified as grievances by the US. You supported the social media laws last year. What guarantees can you give that you won't resile from cracking down on those big tech platforms to curry favor with the trumpet.

Speaker 29

Both both are non negotiable, so I just make that very clear we will not be negotiating on that basis. I fought for a long time for kids to be safe online and going back to the Obama administration. I worked with the Attorney General in that administration, as I did with Bill Barr as the Attorney General in the forty fifth presidency under President Trump, and I want to make sure that we can put in place a safe environment where our kids can go online, mix with their friends,

and live a safe life. So I'm absolutely non negotiable in that regard, and in relation to the other elements, We're not negotiating on that basis. There are other elements of the relationship which are important both the United States and to us. They are in our mutual best interests, and they center around the defense relationship and the trade relationship, including on beef.

Speaker 10

More broadly, the mining sector.

Speaker 15

There is concern in the Pilborough about the impact of secure jobs, better pay and multi employer bargaining.

Speaker 10

They would like an answer yes or no, are you going to actually.

Speaker 12

Repeal those laws.

Speaker 29

Well, we've said what our position is in relation to industrial relations. But I just make this point about where Tanya Plibasse and Anthony Albanezi are at the moment. They have taken a position to support the Greens in inner city Sydney and Melbourne to protect those seats and They've abandoned the people of Wa.

Speaker 10

That's what's happened.

Speaker 29

So why would ten put off a decision to make three thousand jobs continue here, allow three thousand jobs to continue here in relation to the Northwest Shelf until the thirty first of May. If this was going to be a good decision for Wa, why would ten you put the decision off until after the election.

Speaker 10

And what it demonstrates to the people of Western Australia is.

Speaker 29

That Anthony Oberenzi is no Mark McGowan, He's not even close to Roger Cook. Anthony Oberenzi is a threat to Wa, to mining, to jobs and to economic growth in this state. And if that's the case, if that's the case, that he's elected with Adam band after the election, I promise you they will be the most anti mining government in our country's history since the Albanesi government of today.

Speaker 19

Can you answer just on defense, smister Dutton, you've spoken this morning about it it being up for negotiation. Can you be specific what exactly in our defense relationship is up for negotiation?

Speaker 29

So in relation to the critic mineral aspect, which is I think a key focus for us, the critical minerals that we produce. Here are key elements in the manufacturing of the defense industry that keeps the United States running. And when you look at what we provided to Ukraine, or what Canada has, or what the United Kingdom has or in the United States has, our elements go into the key production of some of those key weapons systems, and that is an integral part for the United States.

When you look at the global map and you look at where these deposits are held, the Americans have very few options. And that's why I think it is an absolutely integral part to the negotiation.

Speaker 8

Anything else in defense.

Speaker 29

I think there are many elements to it, but I think critical minerals is the most obvious one, and I think the Americans have expressed as much. It's just that the Prime Minister hasn't spent a moment thinking about it. And if it had been able to get a call with the President, then perhaps it could have been a negotiation.

Speaker 10

Your discussion about it.

Speaker 19

Can you be specific other than critical minerals, What in the defense relationship are you willing to negotiate?

Speaker 29

Well, I spoke before about what we're producing here in Australia. Now, so defense industry here in wa at Henderson in South Australia at Osborne, right across the defense network. Here in Australia, we have enormous capacity to contribute to the United States in a very uncertain time and providing assurances in relation to their surface fleet and their subsurface fleet. All of that is something that Australia brings to the table. And I think there are many elements to withdraw something.

Speaker 28

If you won't take something out of the relationship, if you won't say get out of Darwin, or if there isn't a price on it, Donald Trump will laugh you out of the room.

Speaker 29

Tim.

Speaker 10

I just don't think that.

Speaker 29

People, if you read the language, understand what is on the table before us. There is a pathway here to resolve what is a bad issue and a bad outcome for our country, and the deal is there to be done, but the Prime Minister hasn't been capable of doing it. I want to make sure that we can stand up for our country's best interests. And what we're saying is that if there had been a normalized relationship, firstly, there

would have been a discussion and engagement. Secondly, the Prime Minister would have known about it before it was announced to the rest of the world, and that shows where the state of the relationship is at the moment.

Speaker 20

In February, he described Donald Trump as a big thinker and that he brought gravitas to international affairs. Would you still describe the president that way? And secondly, there is someone in your orbit who's also in the Trump world orbit, and that's gena Ryan Hart. Would she be someone that you would look to for help if you won the election?

Speaker 10

Well, in relation to are the comments I made?

Speaker 29

I think they were in the context of the hostages being released from Gaza and the fact that that had been negotiated before.

Speaker 10

The inauguration had taken place on January twenty, and I think take over Gaza, And I think in relation to the.

Speaker 29

The fact that there was a negotiation essentially taking place to release those hostages before January twenty was a pretty significant event. And I think those families were happy. I'm sure they were for the release of their loved ones. So I think the focus today is on how we turn a bad situation into a much better outcome for our country. The Prime Minister doesn't have the ability to do that. I think over the next few weeks, if

he applies himself to it. There can be a deal to be done, but we need to make sure that we act in our country's bestial.

Speaker 27

That sounds a bit like cowtowing. Frankly, it sounds a bit like you're trying to offer the Americans more. And Alberanezi and Farrell tried the critical Minerals deal. They couldn't get it off the ground. So why are you going to make a difference?

Speaker 10

Andrew?

Speaker 29

Again, if you look at what we were able to do in government, we were able to negotiate an outcome with Trump Mark one and there was an exemption for our country, and a coalition government did that because we were able to get access to the administration. We were able to talk to the key players and the people of influence in the sphere of the West Wing and

that achieved an outcome for our country. Now this Prime Minister hasn't been able to do that, and we need to look at the decision that's been made which is bad for our country and I condemn it. But the question is what do we do now to rectify the situation and turn it into a positive for our country. There's no doubt in my mind that we can do that.

The Prime Minister has it surely in front of him to be able to do over the course of the next few weeks, and that's an outcome that will be in the better interest of our country.

Speaker 19

Question, will you commit to going to Collie on the campaign trail to just discuss new clear with the community.

Speaker 29

I've been to well, just in relation to Collie, I've been to Collie before. There are seven locations around the country.

There are seven locations around the country, and I won't be able to get to all of them, but I do know that when you speak to people in regions fluting in the hunter in New South Wales, for example, they know the workers there know that when coal comes to an end, there's no shopping mall to work in, there's no barista course that they can take that's going to give them a job to provide support to their family. They know that heavy industry will leave the still manufacturing

can't survive without secure and reliable energy. The local foundry doesn't work without the base of that industry in place. So they know that what we're offering is the ability to transform those communities and to build it up as we're seeing in the United States.

Speaker 10

Given that it's.

Speaker 29

Topical today when you look at Apple, and you look at Oracle, and you look at all of these companies who are negotiating for the data centers now and the huge requirements around AI, they are not talking to our country. And I want them to come here. I want that industry to grow and I want to make sure that we can have strong, reliable, clean and cheaper energy. And that's exactly what we've got on offer at this election.

The Prime Minister is saying to Australians, vote for him, vote for Anthony Alberisi and vote for Adam Band.

Speaker 10

You'll get a guarantee of higher.

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Electricity prices, but not just that there's a prospect increasingly blackouts and brownouts under us. There will be cheaper there will be cheaper electricity, it will be cleaner and it will be reliable.

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Laws And that was Opposition Leader Peter Dutton speaking to the media in Perth as part of campaigning for more on this. We've got ABC presenter Greg Jennet in our Canberra studio starting Greg that this is not a good thing, that it's in fact a bad day.

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But he went much further and I know time is limited here, Dan, so I'll keep this really concise. But we have a conspicuous and obvious point of difference here between the government and the coalition on what I would describe as ring fencing of defense and the security relationship with the United States.

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So Orcus is.

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One part of that, buying weapons, systems and the like. The government has put that outside of these trade discussions or negotiations. Peter Dutton not so he's enticing us into this idea that it could be used as a bargaining chip. So security and defense should be used in an appeal to Donald Trump for what he calls a deal that

is there to be done. Now this will require further analysis and teasing out in the days ahead in this campaign, but I'll just leave you with that thought, Dan, a very obvious point of difference emerging.

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Greg Jennet there in Parliament House. More analysis right throughout the day, and there's more on the ABC News app and on ABC I View. I'm Dan Borscher. That's all for me. Melissa McKay is up next with more on the full.

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Add and We Act.

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