Welcome to the podcast. Hey, how's it going? I hope you're doing well out there. This is getting recorded on Halloween. So happy spooky day. And this is going to be your last and not our last, like, totally spooky movie, but to celebrate, we're doing a spooky-ish movie. Welcome to the pod. This polarized pond. This is a podcast about polarizing movies in the sense of rotten tomato scores, sometimes critics love it and audiences hate it, which is the case in this movie.
Or vice versa is also what we talk about on this podcast. Those are the types of movies. I, the one speaking to you is one of your hosts. My name's Brandon. Hey, how's it going? And at this point, I would like to introduce this isn't just a one hander. This is a two hander. And I'm going to introduce that co-host. Sometimes we refer to him as the forever guest. His name is James Lindsay. Hey, it's all hands on deck. It's a two hand, two hander.
We're each one of us using one hand each because we can do this with at least one hand tied behind each one of our backs, but then we need two of us and it's going to be a two hander. And I'm the co-host, co-captain forever guest here to talk about the movies. We're talking about. I like the movie movies. I like the movies. I like the movies. I like the movies. So this is the kind of dynamic you can expect for the rest of this episode and for all the other episodes, go check them in.
Hey, welcome in. Come on in. It's fucking Halloween. Can you believe it? It's Halloween. We're telling you what day it is on this one. We don't do that every time we're letting you know. We don't. Yes. We're letting you in on how the sauce is made. We could be trick or treating right now, but there's an alien. What is it? We saw little crescent circles outside our each of our respective homes and now we're bunkered in.
The bunker Dan aliens are a classic case of bunker Dan aliens are just looking boiling water. Start boiling some water, you know, make sure you turn off anything that's going to make noise. Yeah, I mean, I haven't had it. Nativity. I was going to say unplug your town diorama you have set up in your living room diorama. Oh, no. Yeah, you're doing your little city building in your house all by yourself. Um, wait. So I forgot to say, hey, Mr. Co host forgot to say might be we're doing the movie.
No one will save you. This is 82% critics. 56 stinky audience. Pew Pew Stinky stinky Pew Pew audience of 56. This is movie that came out this year. It stars Caitlyn Bieber and that's about it from our previous entry. Dear Evan Hansen, your Evan Hansen, which I don't think we really I'm trying to remember why I was watching this because I really enjoyed her. I mean, she makes this movie, right? Yeah, she's good.
I mean, there's a lot to say about this movie, but her performance is not one of them. Only good things only good thing. Yeah. My good fellow. Yes. My dear fellow movie lover. Let us recline and discuss film. Let us recline and discuss film. And so that's the movie we're doing. So two questions I have for you, Mr. Lindsay is so question number one is what is your first one is what is your favorite Halloween candy? Oh, so what I like?
Okay. And then I got question number two is what do you watch it? What are you asking? That's out of this. What are you watching? So go in my bag, the thing that I'd be the most excited to get would be one of two things. It would be a singular Reese's. I like when it's just a singular little Reese's cup and that's usually done on Halloween is they'll just you'll get the big bag and then you don't have to plow. Snacks. Snacks. You know, and those are well, I mean, the snacks.
I've got Reese's are pretty good to those are the small ones, but those tend to be more chocolate to peanut butter ratio. Those like kind of Reese's minis and my Reese's minis. Oh, okay. But the regular just flat saucer shape. The flats, the flats, the saucer shapes, the ones that you would you would go up and get your mind probed in and about the other side. A better person. Yeah, you know, those are great. And then I've always fucking just love Snickers, whatever size you want, baby.
I just love those little minis are pretty great there too. What would say you're kind of a Snickers slut by the sounds of I mean, that's what I would usually say when I would approach houses was trick or treat. Snickers. What? Here I'm a little Snickers slut. Hit it over. And how old were you when you were doing last year? I'm skipping I'm skipping this year, but I was doing. Yeah, that was last last Halloween. I don't know.
Maybe after this report, I can get some Snickers walking around this on this street. The dark streets in Halloween just selling myself for Snickers. That's also catch James later tonight. That's a peak. That's a peak behind the curtain. But I hope whatever sins that are in my past, should I be summoned into the skies by aliens that they would absolve me of my sins and send me back to hang out with them for the rest of my days is as one would hope.
So that's answer number one wins in this in this. Oh, yes. I want to hear what you're watching, but to that point, it's like, so everybody wins in in this movie, right? Everybody kind of comes out at the on top into Wanda vision, Wanda vision sort of way.
If you I don't know if you've been like it just seemed I mean, all the people with those fucking things in their throat already jumping into this, but the things when they're throw it's I guess I don't know how they feel about it, but the Paris site that's inside of them makes them look happy and and like to dance. They love to love it. The aliens love to dance. They came up this way to take part in our customs. Yes, we should accept them.
Well, one of my watching though, I'm trying to think what you want because it's just been a lot of been loving just watching movies for this podcast and making that such an event of my of my week has always been great. And trying to get into some scary video game playing, I guess when doing the Resident Evil 8. I know that's not watching, but it feels so cinematic and it feels like a scary sort of thing that I'm partaking in for the for the season.
I have been doing the Finchman second great game. Love it. Love it a lot. Would highly recommend so far. So far, how do you feel about it in relation to seven? That's what I was thinking about. Yeah, it's a part of me almost likes it a little bit better. And I know that a lot of people do like seven more because it is really a return to form and it is such a owed to the classic Resident Evil experience.
And it does have that Texas chainsaw massacre sort of inspiration like 70s horror sort of stuff. But something so goofy and fun about this eighth one. That's just very fantastical and has a whole like combination of all these fantastical monsters. And I'd still extremely scary at parts for me. I just encountered a there's a monster baby that you experience at one point and that scared the shit out of me. Oh, you did that whole thing. Man, isn't that really terrifying?
Yeah, I think I watched when you played it. I think I was why you were streaming it and now and I watched you experience that part and almost made me just not want to play the game because it's but when I was approaching that part, I was a little prepared at least, but it's still fucking is very scary. But yes, highly recommend all of those games. We've talked about going through those. I think last year we did. Yeah, Resident Evil movie.
I'm such a history with those games and I'm looking forward to doing our e4 next. I've just been going through a lot. It's wonderful, man. It's really, really wonderful. It's very similar in a lot of ways to the eight that you're playing where it is much more fantastical and much more of an adventure, but it can use to be pretty. Yeah, and European. Yeah, castles and stuff. European, right? Yeah, that was the next thing you're going to say. We finish each other's European.
But yeah, a lot of David Fincher movies. We love the blank check guys. And been going through those and then I went and saw the killer in theaters to took myself out on a little little solo venture and saw that had a great time. Loved it. Love fast vendor love love Fincher and would highly recommend that movie as well. Yeah, what do you really fun? Revisiting the finchees. Yeah, you watching. Yeah, you've been going through those as well. Yeah, I also want to hear your handy choice.
Candy choice, twix and my what I what I've been watching is I just had a after last record, my night consisted of watching Silence of the Lambs back to back with Fargo. Oh, wow. I almost thought you're going to say like Red Dragon or Hannibal or something. You're going to like go straight through the trilogy. Fargo. Wow. Fargo's both of them amazing movies and kind of some of kind of similar in a lot of ways.
Very similar in a lot of ways and also because I've been watching so much horror like straight kind of straightforward horror that both of those movies are kind of horror movies, but in a different way.
Yeah, way more sounds of the Lambs, but there's definitely horrific elements like a guy going through a woodchipper isn't exactly something that's in, you know, most like thrillers and mystery movies, but to build up to that really, yeah, to to shit the the nature of of what's really going on in that movie near the end. Love it. And I fucking yeah, just the best William H Macy performance for me is is in that movie and that's probably not a hot take or anything.
He's got he's got plenty of good performances, but the Linda guard or right isn't that a thing? Yeah, yeah, the one to guard. Yeah, yeah, all that stuff and with his father in law. No deal. No deal. Great. You fit that in with these guys. I'm telling you. We're working on our on our Macy's over here just trying to handle this. Steve. Okay. I trust you. You got to trust me. Amazing.
I just have such a connection with that movie to because my mom's from Minnesota and I have a lot of family members that kind of talk like that. Corpse. So so silly. It's such a silly like lyrical almost way of speaking that is wild. I love such a fun combination of that with the the horrific yeah elements of that movie with all the sing song me nice polite people that are going through it and then yeah. Francis McDormand in that it's amazing. I love her husband too. That whole scene.
Yeah, you gotta eat breakfast. Marge you gotta eat breakfast. Marge got to eat breakfast. You gotta eat breakfast and then it just is this really cool shot of like them at the table. She has to leave. He's scoots her plate to him starts eating it. She goes out to the car has to come back and it's just so early and what's his thing at the end like because she goes through her whole experience and they just have such a lovely respectful like that painting competition.
She like asked him about that. He's like oh yeah, I did pretty good.
I got whatever second place and she's like so excited for him and really and she's and he's so like supportive of her and and everything that she's doing but it's also treated very and it's so so comfort and and the chemistry is very much familial and yeah obviously her being but having that maternal sort of energy is such a such an interesting aspect of that that movie was meant to watch the show but yeah, but yeah, I don't know so much too much to watch like movies here a lot.
You know, we're big movie guys. We're being moved guys. So speaking of movies. No one will save you had. How did you hear about this movie? Did you like peruse it on who? So as as I've already disclosed, I am on this big horror movie kick num num num num num num num num num all of it and I was so been watching horror movies frequently on Hulu. They make a lot of them. They have like every every is on there.
Louie they have a Hulu in every every year where they have a baby like produce and make a bunch of content for every Halloween. They absolutely do because that's the business that they're in is producing content and some of it kind of feels like fodder, which this movie feels a little bit like that to me. I there's clearly a budget. Clearly a budget to answer your question though. Yes, I saw it as a featured Hulu only on Hulu and I'm in advertising.
I love Scaluse's tell me what you know, give me some of that Scaluse's and so I was interested in watching something that is a Hulu produced movie because these they've made some good companies are becoming movie production houses and I think it is always interesting to talk about them, you know about the movies that they make and what they're doing. Well, the first time in theaters the last time when I saw the killer was the first time I saw the Netflix logo come up in a theater.
Yeah, in a theater before the movie and that was interesting. Ever seen that before and it has its own special look to it. Totally. Yeah. And there's yeah, the thing is, is that it's exciting to see new production houses come onto the scene if they're making good movies, making them ethically, all of that stuff. But yeah, it's just it's really interesting to talk about an application in a streaming service.
Getting into the content business because that speaks at large what that whole industry is doing. Like you said, seeing a movie that is a Netflix movie in a theater, I think this movie would have benefited from being in a theater and I did have like a select release or something like that, but it just went. Yeah, by the came and went very quickly came out September 22nd, I guess, or like a month before Halloween proper.
I don't know if that hurt or helped it, but I'm sure it had some buzz when it first dropped and people discovered what the movie actually was and we're going to get into later on in the show, of course, reviews and everything in people's reactions. And that's honestly why we're here today at polarized pad is because people came down on one side or the other very strongly and they had a had a reaction to this.
But for the most part to talk about like, you know, yeah, Netflix and all these streaming services making their own movies. Yeah, Hulu is very hit or miss for me and maybe that that you can speak broadly about a lot of streaming services and their success on on producing their own content because a lot of times they do want to make it for a smaller budget and hope that it hits big in a way that, you know, they can.
Yeah, make a lot for for very little and it's it's kind of nice, especially with horror movies, and especially with the Hulu wean thing. But in Hulu's case, it is kind of refreshing sometimes for better or worse, even if it is not the best movie is like, oh, they do, you know, they make these horror movies, but they also make like these low to mid budget comedies that you don't really get much of and Netflix occasionally does it too and they do a lot of stand up, of course.
You're so right about Hulu being a good front runner of that because like Palm Springs was really great and funny. Definitely that one was really good and then I don't know for whatever it's worth. I thought vacation friends was pretty funny and then they made a second one. I haven't seen. I have seen the second one. It's pretty good.
Cool. Yeah, there's there's like a energy and energy of those movies that it's like, Hey, this reminds me of like a comedy from early 2000s or 90s or something like that where maybe it's a little stupid or or silly and that sort of way, but it's it's you can and you can kind of read the budget a little bit too like vacation friends.
They went to a nice hotel and they filmed it all at this nice hotel and it's really not that many locations and with this one, it's like that's going to it kind of bumps it up a little bit for me to see the creative prowess to use a small amount of resources to be able to create a story. But then it all you know, it hurts it another way is we'll get into specifically with with this movie. But within the bloom housing as well, I know that that is just something that is extremely popular now too.
In terms of horror movies of if you can construct a script that really revolves the whole story around one location and one house and someone either stuck there or all of the action really taking place in one location. And yeah, I don't know for the story really has to be enticing and there really has to be interesting things going on creatively for that.
So just to follow through, you know, more recent example would be something like Barbarian or this movie gets lumped into with prey is another who made movie. I mean, that one is all outdoors and has like a more broader cast and that was really good. I like that movie a lot. Right. So I mean, and I bring that up because it is but it's not the highest budget either. You can tell that they're doing critics are lumping them together from a Hulu production.
The critics are because they like this movie because I think it speaks to things that I've definitely talked about. And you agree with as well of like, well, I don't know necessarily and please let me know otherwise. But like the last episode we did with Danny about the Pope's exorcist is that was a pretty medium to low budget movie. And he did a lot for what it really one location as well. And that can be really fun and exciting.
And there is definitely a want by me to have more movies like that because there has been an issue and also the Blumhouse of it all for better or for worse is like Blumhouse shows you that you can make if you keep the budget really low and the creative like kind of stick of it, you know, takes off and there is a lot of just playing the numbers game. Then there's a lot of financial reward for doing that.
And so I think that there it's nice to see medium to low budget movies getting made more and we do want to see more of that trend because that is something that has died out from the Marvel effect of it where you're just seeing mainly movies in theaters being like 200 million, 300 million dollars. And that's the only reason that people will go out to the theater, which to this movies like yeah, just a bummer's.
I think this could have done well broader with people seeing it collectively together and there's just not a. There's the industry isn't doing that and that's unfortunate and it's hard to continue having movies made at this level if you're not going to put them in theaters so that they are profitable because we're just living in this weird black box time where. Streaming services are producing movies and the profitability of them is so opaque.
So it really just makes this weird kind of standard and kind and understanding in what success is in this industry right now where it just seems like in order to be in the theaters it has to be really expensive and a majority of the time those really expensive movies start catering to too many and start becoming uninteresting and we want to have like kind of medium to low budget movies that are really interesting being played at a larger scale so that more people are at least
having the discussion about movies like this and it is a bummer like you were saying you know this movie coming out in September no one's really talking about it. I haven't heard anybody talk about it but I think if it would have received a broader distribution and not been controlled by a streaming service who wants just more fodder for their for their content for their platform you know movies like this could maybe get the legs now. I'm not I don't want to have its pop when it first came out
and then just kind of went away. Yeah and it didn't have any lasting power. Yeah, it's my guess but as far as what effect that has on the streaming service and how many people just signed up for Hulu because they saw this movie was exclusive to this
streaming service. I yeah like you're saying that it is it is opaque and it's not we're not sure like what that actually means for them but to get a certified fresh critic review I don't even know if that means anything either but for a for a horror movie that's an hour and a half that's you know short with a low budget and everything like that seems to be something more in line with what would be an audience
favored in our experience on this podcast. I don't know it would be something that would be that like a popcorn fun horror movie that drops on a streaming service that audiences have a good time with it but yeah critics were were more into this one. Then the audience and I think there were some some hooks that didn't completely jive with all all audience members but I'm glad we like talked about just on the horror movie. Genre in in general.
I tend to like stuff like this to like the sci-fi sort of thing and stuff that has like a little bit of fantastical element to it but this one goes in in an interesting direction which isn't apparently clear and just watching the trailer just before we started recording. I didn't even know anything about
this movie going in. I think I had seen scrolled by it on Hulu and maybe like added it to my list and then just kept on scrolling or something like that but sure there's nothing that that was really screaming at me to check this out and there's just so much stuff out there. It's it's hard to so much stuff
out there. Yeah and it's crazy how a movie like this gets buried right like we're talking about a movie that cost a couple million dollars to me that isn't necessarily a bad movie and we're about to get into an audience but like yeah to just feel this sense of like a whole production was made to make this movie and then it just becomes a tile on a fucking screen that gets a little bit of promotion depending on how your algorithm feels about you is really just yeah kind of
that's the real horror movie in my mind because yeah I don't like is this movie great? Debatable but I think people would have had fun in the theater seeing this. Sure I don't I don't see why not and I think it has and I don't it's an hour and
a half like it has enough to keep people interested. I'd say if you're locked in but I mean I think it's I think yeah we should start getting into yeah that's it into the actual movie proper and this is something that again I had no idea what this movie was going into it besides just seeing kind of like a poster and maybe like a house with like aliens that's all I
kind of I knew or like a flying saucer over a house. No one will say you was kind of innocuous not really sure what that means and the movie starts and in my mind this is an introduction to everything why she is alone and setting the stage and there's no one else around and she's not speaking she's not speaking okay okay so that's like and I just had this conversation with you Brandon recently about a Pixar tier list that we put together just just for funsies because
we're like that we like movies I like the movies movies movies movies movies movies movies movies movies movies movies and my I had to put Wally S tier for myself because it's such an amazing film and it's such a good example of using the effect that this movie is using for the entire thing but in Wally it is really the first like 1520 minutes where there is no dialogue and it's too great effect and to this one it definitely has a great effect on you but whether you're willing
to commit as much as the movie is committing is is completely up to you and I am saying right now is a big part of the polarizing reviews but at the beginning I'm very in on this like I'm very interested in what's going on and I like that they're refraining from some of the dialogue and it's just her just existing in this house alone I'm already getting a little oh or a little bit not not this again when well it's when she's doing all the miniatures man like yeah huh it's it's a
trope now and I don't know I'm trying to very I'm trying to think how many horror movies have this but it's gotta be her hereditary was hereditary was the most recent one I think was it that one that had the dollhouse and all the miniatures and everything like there's so many horror movies I feel like that they'll just have like a little dollhouse or miniatures representing that's supposed to have some bigger symbology or represent representing yeah and then the movies it goes into
it deeper or it does and and this one it just like many other things I don't think it it's kind of weak on the follow through or it's just there to add a flourish to this character of her going through her trauma that which we find out later about but that was my first little hiccup and then just slowly sinking into the no dialogue how was that for you did you expect that did you know that's what this was no I knew nothing about this movie just like you um I was getting
already really wrapped up in my mind about the way that this movie looks because there's things about this movie that I really I I like yeah and but there there's a lot of times that it is falling into the stereotypes of what a current present modern movie looks like that was it was really at odds with the film already in that regard where the decision where the decisions to where the camera is I thought were interesting but there's a lot of aesthetics applied to
the film like you know an after effects or whatever and it's so just like every other streaming movie or every like stereotypical movie made now and we've talked about it a little bit for being in one location I don't know you got to be like malignant or some shit where you're like whoa look at where the cameras cameras like in the attic and it's like through rooms and stuff yeah or like I don't know if Landon has a nice way of like getting you into the geography and making
you feel like the house has a character of its own that's right it's the fifth beetle yeah it's like New York City babe yeah yeah it's like it's like it's like it's like it's like sexy city that so her doing all of these like intricacies of the house made me also really think like I just briefly mentioned earlier about where the crawdad saying like this kind of what women do when left to their own devices they get really interested in is kind of like a marsh girls and she is
she's just got like you know marsh girl had her drawings of bugs or whatever it was and then now you know those are way cooler than these little fucking no no no she makes dresses to so much so much fucking take a painting of a plant any day yeah so that's bullshit doll houses no the dollars are fine it's it's the trope now it's it's interesting how in my mind how that's kind of become a weird trope of horror movies it is open in on somebody working on their dollhouse miniature like I
don't know it just is classic now and she sends she's sending dresses there's some words written on a page you know this is a Etsy you're kind of yeah uh-huh you're kind of trying to piece together some some like an online business you know which goes into this question that I think both of us had is what year is it what time are we in right now because she's got this seemingly online business all by herself so her mother died and her best friend died but she's living in this
house by herself she's got this are these modern dresses or are these retro I can't tell you know what somebody who likes fashion just a little briefly is it's the what she's wearing has a lot of current modern fashion to it is because this fashion goes in cycles and so you'll see trends in seventies cropping up and then she also early 2000s but like yeah it's there is a modernist to her look I think her look in general like hers actress is great like I just off the bat
Katelyn Deaver is not oh we've already any already said that I have a yeah any problem I have what she's wearing yeah it's like you know the highways to jeans and and I'm trying to think like sneakers and like a floral you know mustard yellow shirt which is like that that yellow can be like especially when you got it leaves yeah these like kind of like a sleeve that's the thing them but they combine with the house which has not changed in the amount of time that her mom
dies like is the house of the time as well or she also it's also part of her trauma where she refuses to move on because the big glaring thing for me a little bit later in the movie where I've already been questioning what year it is why in the hell does she have a rotary phone I wrote why is the cell phones it's gotta be the cell phones yeah it's gotta be a flat screen right she does and then I also looked up super modern I looked I legitimately it was so interested
in the year of this that I looked up what her Subaru that that arm a big arm legged alien or whatever oh yeah gets burned in and I looked up the Subaru and like that's a 1990 Subaru uh-huh so again I'm like okay maybe it's the early 90s but then I couldn't understand why she doesn't have a cell phone and it was just a lot of these okay I understand though so let it let it details are light in this movie it's an hour and a it's an hour and a half horror movie and
there's little glimpses sure but stuff like that is already begging the question where and this is gonna be a driving point for me I think throughout this is you committed so hard to no dialogue that it hampered the movie in other ways where some of that stuff would be easily handled in a and a throwaway line or two or something that would spend a little time on filling out what's a little bit of the setting but I in my mind this movie just seems so committed to this
no dialogue thing for for not a good enough reason perhaps the intro is great love that but past that it seems like a handicap rather than like a creative flourish that it's it could it could flourish in other areas had it just accepted that it could add a few scenes of whatever I don't know it's hard for me because I don't want to tell this movie how to be completely but I can it's just it's you can see it just like holding itself back and it's so fucking frustrating
because it's really cool in a lot of ways but it's holding
itself back. Yeah. So I really watched it follows and I watched some interviews with the director and he made a stylistic choice to make it very ambiguous of the time period that it's in because he was wanted people to think less about like what I'm questioning what year is it because why don't they have cell phones yada yada yada like all of this stuff and wants it to have this era of this is focused on this thing that is doesn't need to be represented by time and push it to trying to just
classically tell a narrative. But this movie is so sparse on things that I'm constantly trying to like figure her shit out about it because it's giving me so little of it and I'm just like why is this happening? What where are we? What time is this? Why is it? You know all of this shit and I don't know
sometimes I'm like is that a feeling of my part? Am I am I overthinking this or is the movie just presenting me things in a way where it is begging the question and I'm interested in the answer but it has no interest in telling me what the answer is because maybe it doesn't have an interesting point of view. Yeah, that's that's I think you hit it on the nail on
the head with that with this movie. Unfortunately, like I don't think it's following through because it doesn't know what to follow through on because it doesn't have and the big thing for me is and we're just we're just getting because it's hard to go beat by beat with this movie because it is it is silent, essentially silent movie. But the big parts of this movie are her past and why the town hates her and aliens attacking her home. The aliens attacking our home happens
very quickly. So this whole just real quick just the story of her in relation to the town or relation to the conflict of the alien and then how you would learn more about the character and kind of like somewhat linear way at least you're going through a movie giving information to the audience and it is a little bit of information about her but very opaque then goes right into an invasion movie then goes into another movie where there's interaction with the town then goes into
an action movie with aliens and it just ends up like really not letting you have those moments because it is shifting through things so wildly. Right. So let's have this. Right. So that's essentially essentially what I'm trying to get at was those those those are the big things is it's whatever it's whatever I'm kind of just the connective. I was
about to say whatever. I was about to say I didn't I'm losing it but those three things that I mentioned of of her at her at her house and or sorry her trauma and her past and the aliens attacking are like the big and the town hating her. Those are the three things that this movie has to reconcile and yes like you said you said it goes through those those portions and I agree with you where there is no connective tissue or reason why also the other thing would be it's
completely sent the whole time. They don't justify it they don't reconcile all of those things together and they don't give a reason why it needs to be silent and why this trauma that that she has with her past about accidentally murdering her friend and well purposely harming her it's my it's manslaughter folks but it does not properly reconcile those things and it does it in a way that's a very like an enticing enough Twilight Zone episode that should be an hour long
instead of a half hour is definitely like more of a broader like reaching into final thoughts of this movie but it's hard to go piece by piece because it's just constantly begging these questions that it doesn't have the wherewithal my answer is like where we're at. Yeah. That's okay. Let's to reel it into the plot like we get into this home invasion movie relatively and that part is in a lot of ways pretty scary. I would argue that the first half of this movie. Yes, I'm in on the beginning.
Um, but what do you question I have is let's and let's really what did you think about the aliens in the way that they they were fine that they're they're great. I like the feed is the feet are pretty cool but they're like the feeds are like little fingers and then they got these two really long fingers. Yeah, I like that there's a little bit of variance between the side. There's the sizing changes and I don't know what they all mean but I like the I like the sizing differences
and then I like their little hand feets. These are nice and how you get a nice close up of that. But yeah, I don't know. It's acceptable because they're they're grays. They're just like the most most like typical stereotypical kind of aliens with like the big eyes and and those and like very typical like eyes where there's a lot of ice stuff. Yeah, I saw a lot of hand and stabbing of skulls and then yeah, the big one was really cool. I like that big one. Yeah, the big one scary but
the little one really. I didn't get what its deal was man. What do you want little guy and then it would just sit in the fucking hallway and start doing that. And doing these hand motions. And then she's like, what the fuck and then slamming it with the cupboard door. I just wasn't sure how I felt about it about it. I was like, is this a child alien or is this an old man alien or what kind of what kind of alien is and what does it want? I just always just curious. What does it want?
Yeah, so that's a good question about them. I think the CGI of the aliens is good. But again, this movie puts up odds right off the bat because and I understand that it's because it's challenging my maybe like my predilections to good versions of this and I should let it be more of it on its own stand on its own to instead of doing a hard comparison, but it's really difficult to not enjoy the concept of you don't need to show the aliens yet. It's so much scarier to not have them so
visible so quickly. And the fact that the the aliens are we get such a clear visual of the aliens so quickly into the movie really makes it less scary for the rest of it. The reason that it had I agree with you. But narratively why they might have done it and maybe why it it might it kind of worked a little bit was like there was a suspicion and a mystery as to why and this is the other portion I was talking about as to why everyone hated her at town.
And to know that there really were aliens and that there was a dead alien body waiting for at home when she like would go into town or whatever when or when she was trying to figure out like how to fix the issue. You you almost knew that it wasn't in her head already and you knew that it was real and that she would go back and then it was still there. That was an element that kept me going a little bit longer.
You know because those two things hadn't like I'm saying they like hadn't been reconciled and I was waiting for them to like give you the answer and and hopefully it'd be satisfying as to oh maybe it has something to do with why everyone hates her in town or like and I was yeah in my mind you're like oh is she an alien is the rest are the rest of the town aliens or something is something already
happened like that. And that mystery gets you going a little bit longer again and like a Twilight Zone sort of way because with that moment when she does go into town after the first attack and that's such a build up to possible dialogue and possible speech between two people and somebody's mouth does open. Something does come out but it's not weird. So yeah and after that James think about the connection that she gets spit on and then the spit of the alien.
Come in the little guy or what I don't I don't get it. I'm sorry I'm acting like I understood what the spit was about. I feel like I looked down in my phone to write a note and then all of a sudden the spit meant something. Can you explain to me what the what was going on with the spit out of the out of the lady out of the no that I understand.
I know how to be alien at which at which point the with like this the creature that was going into her mouth or so when she comes back from getting spit on and then also that attack on the bus which was scary a little bit but then it just it was so God the whole time I wanted to be in on the movie but I'm like why I just I need a little bit more of like why all of a sudden now the people like certain people on the bus were yeah most people on the bus were like this person's crazy
but then this guy's crazy. Why is that guy crazy and it's a body snatchers thing that's I mean that's all that is in my mind of just like these these people are getting taken over and infected and it was just that a mid invasion at that point and she was experiencing it and yeah I don't know it's like it's hard for me to fully criticize or like oh that's going to solve everything it just needs more dialogue like if that's what you want to do wanted to do that's what you wanted to do
but I just don't think it benefited as much as they might have hoped that it would because yeah I don't need necessarily a news thing in the background on a TV it's like there's been an attack on the city and it's year 1993 and let me tell you exactly what's happening it's there is a nice sort of element of like oh I'm with the in the perspective of the main character and in the element of unknowing but that busing was kind of annoying of it would just went up
to the bus driver the bus drivers just look back and was like what just like I just nothing you didn't say you just look back and was like wow this is crazy what's happening right now and then there's some people that were like oh we should help her like reaching out their hands or something but not say anything and then just a lot of you know alien clicking and sputtering and stuff which I must say great audio design the aliens are fine like they're they're solid but the audio
design was huge and some of the lighting effects of I like a classic kind of sucking you up into their saucer like that's fun like if you want to go into a classic sort of and that's why they're gray aliens so it fits the whole theme of just like yeah we're going to do just they are right down the middle aliens saucers it's an invasion like I think a little less mystery with that helped you to focus on a little bit more mystery of her character which the movie should have not
should I don't but could have done a little bit more with that you know because it had in my mind removed a little bit of the mystery of like oh yeah these are for sure aliens and and they're attacking and then yeah getting into their their ship was was interesting enough I like you know yeah some of the design stuff like not bad not bad some of that stuff was but I wasn't super scared but the opening house invasion a little bit.
Yeah it's in a way it's our it's earth as our home and that's the invasion that's what that's what's really happened. I mean this movie is just a collection of home invasions you know to talk about again the scale of this movie that's where drags in the middle.
It's she has a home invasion in the first part of the movie then she goes out into town no one talks or and it's so aggressive to me then no one talks to her like it really is no you're talking about after the invasion and she gets spit on and everything yeah and her just going to the town and she does not try hard enough to be that much of a pariah in town I don't know. Yeah to get spit on by in the police station. I know God I was like that's battery like you.
Who cares if he's the police chief I mean go on she was a child. It was a child that is battery though I remember learning about that law class about how yeah projectile. Spitting somebody on somebody is totally battery and the fact that it happens in the station is just so jarring and weird because you're yeah there's so much of this movie.
I feel so weird kind of saying this but like oftentimes I'm like why is this happening like why is this allowed to happen what does this mean all of that stuff there's just it's so much presenting things to you so either thinly veiled or has no substance behind that really like is visually cool and interesting but I just yeah left with a bunch of questions so this next series of home invasions is really where it drags for me I agree this is where it and that's where it
reminds me of and of Pope's exorcist a little bit and horror movies that just don't completely work is when they get into this rhythm in the middle of I don't know the monster is constantly like doing these new tricks and if the tricks are things that it's doing to escalate things are escalating or aren't making it more interesting or adding more it just starts to become repetitive and bland and that's kind of this just begins to add more questions as far as yeah different
types of aliens and just her going back to the one location that this movie has already been and so it was kind of nice for me like oh she's on a bus new location cool oh she's getting attacked here oh is the post office post office due to the mailman oh he's back okay this is like escalating in a different way oh she's in town that she has to just go back and that was such like that's where it started to lose me in a in a big way was she got spit on and then she just goes back home as if
she's defeated just from and it's like you start to see later on that everyone's getting attacked and I guess or does she realizes it then I guess too maybe and so she goes home and starts nailing blankets to her window and stuff like that and she starts to realize that this is more widespread of course with the bus attack but then yeah it turns into what the movie already was was aliens are attacking her home.
So it sucks it sucks like the other guy back in or whatever and then the little guy and the big guy you got pop a bear and mom and little bear leg and tiny like guy. It's it's so funny to talk about this movie because there's so happens that is yeah I don't know. There's a red light at one point. Yeah. A little guys I didn't care for the long laid guy man and just gets like kind of caught in a car. Oh yes not. That was very almost pretty klutzie.
It was like it's able to burst a hole through one portion of the car but isn't able to figure out how to get out of it. Yeah. These damn weird little feet hands that I got aren't retractable enough for to go back in once I'm pushed through an automobile and then that yeah and then just explodes. I. I kind of like it's hard because there's nothing super glowing about this movie that I can give it.
I like the audio design even though there's no speech but like the I like the aliens audio design and I like this little weird creature thing that goes like in her mouth. I was going to say there's a moment where I like was about to flip my TV off and walk away when I was like it was all a dream. Yeah. I was like it's 20 minutes left. There's no way that this is got to this got to pull the rug out from under me but I was a little worried I was like they're really fucking doing this right now.
Yeah. But I knew little yeah that little guy had some effect. Yeah it was interesting to see that trope played on screen because we have recently played a bonus game where it has a similar situation where an alien affects the population. Some type of yeah well alien as well does some yeah. The little tadpole that infects people's minds that's part of taking over.
I mean this movie just so poorly finishes itself and we don't have to fully get there yet but this tadpole the visual of it is it's cool. Yeah you see other people with it kind of sticking out of another throw and kind of like looking into the sky and just like and but yeah even the budget then you can tell small because it's like a group of like 10 people.
It's not like the whole town is just like a little small like oh the neighbors and they're just like looking up and yeah it feels like a quaint little local home invasion by the by the aliens of this town and how it directly affects them in a very specific interesting way. This but yeah it the mailman goes after I like he does the Kobe shot with the box that added some life to the movie for two seconds.
I was like oh oh come back to me and then he gets like half absorbed either and like breaks his back or whatever I guess is what happens that was kind of cool but anyways yeah that little creature she spits back out and then it like turns into her that was kind of cool. It was you see it she's like running away and it's like it's like gets the beam on it and then it slowly starts forming into a body. It was kind of giving me annihilation vibes and making me want to watch that instead.
Yeah. Yeah that was all of that is to talk to the trauma element of this movie right like her. She's battling herself battling herself because the monster theoretically goes into you and then just puts you to sleep in the best version of the life that you want.
Yeah her best friend was back and yeah but then she also had to deal with the trauma which is how she like it was really weird to me that it showed her outside as the other person after having been taken over so theoretically like the alien takes over people but their body is still there and they're like moving through the world. It's one of his channel.
Yeah which was so weird to me because I was like yeah I'm still like did she just seem completely absent like in that control or was it taking over her mind but also controlling her to what to just be her and what is the purpose of that for the aliens. Why is it just coming down and like turning people into these things to what extent.
They really just seem yeah they're all deal befuddled me because they seem curious enough but then they they weren't completely pacifist like they would they would fight and they would attack her back and they would get in her face and hunt her down but they also seemed kind of incompetent and kind of clumsy and and a little slow and but overall curious really not not necessarily easily but that was another thing that she yeah she takes out a few yeah.
Yeah she takes them down which is it yeah kind of which is cool and then at the end they're like we're good we cool we cool we're good right yeah we're good join us.
Kuba gobble gobble aliens baby this is one of the yeah we're in like the more exciting part of it and I think getting on their ship is the climactic moment that gives me something and is a point that the movie is leading to and is attempting to do everything that I'm criticizing and loving you know criticism against about reconciling these different aspects of trauma meets abduction you know and are past everything and how the town treats her and it addresses it
all in this spaceship but just not enough and not too full you know fruition in in in my mind because yeah it's just kind of unclear as to what the aliens glean out of doing this process and why they feel like they want to keep her around I guess they look at her this would be this would be the read right is like she's an alien to and her own society they would like we relate with that she can help us I don't know I don't know is that what they're talking about now that's giving the gears.
Yeah, I mean some people. I yeah I it's and what do they what do they get like looking at her trauma it seems almost like that had something to do with weighing their decision because them looking at that specific moment in her past while she's sitting there obviously it's a big moment in her past but they could look at any point in her history as in her life as a person so the only I don't know the only reason they're showing that is because there's an audience watching a movie and that's
the big part that we all need to see but if it is important to the aliens yeah like what does that how does that change their mind about anything how does that affect what they think of her and do I need to care or is it just something that those are all questions that the movies posing and it's having fun with knowing that you're you're thinking about it but we arrive I think at the beginning of this discussion too is did it think of it did it think itself out at all or you know.
No, I mean and I think the ending is apparent.
You don't understand the objective of it you see some reconciliation of what the movie cares about the most which is how trauma but in relation to her and the aliens none of that makes sense I don't know how the like you said benefit from understanding her from maybe the rate is that by helping her go through the better understanding psychology so that people better but I feel like again that's giving the movie more credit than because I think you just go
into this going like I want to make the aliens move and then that's the extent of thinking about it and leaning more so on really unfinished answers as kind of like like it's like if somebody wants to seem smarter than they are they just leave you know kind of these really generic ubiquitous questions out there being like well what if what this and it's kind of it's so thinly veiled though.
It's where you want some of those questions to be answered just because you want to know that the interest of and the like where this movie cares to tell the story is worth listening to and I don't get to that point personally. Yeah, I just am constantly left with. Why what are we doing? I get it but like why does that matter and it's a Twilight Zone ending which I can imagine even writing it.
I know not for sure on this but it's like we want to get to this ending but even is not necessarily a bad one but the means of getting there I don't think puts enough agency with her as to wanting to be a part of it you see her smiling and happy at the end. But it is all at the behest of these aliens who are you know have her in their little dark lab and they get to decide what her fate is.
It just doesn't give you much satisfaction and for me too it's like even with that ending I almost would have wanted some sort of voluntary or sort of expression of I don't belong with these people. I don't relate with humanity anymore because they have out I'm an outcast and some sort of plea by her or something and maybe that would be Hokey and maybe that would be she's out of maybe that one work but some sort of way of her having agency to choose this life.
She seems happy with the outcome but it just isn't by her own design and it isn't.
Yeah and then that would maybe be bringing that trauma into it in a way where she's able to address it and if in a not necessary I know it's a it's not necessarily happy ending it's pretty it's kind of fucked up and whatever but like that's still a pretty good ending and there's a way to get to it that is way more interesting than than how they did it and yeah again I think if it was an hour longer on a Twilight Zone episode or something like that where that
middle part of a couple other aliens that's all that happens in the middle right like a couple more aliens attacker like and then you know they get and that she offs them and it doesn't really add to anything I think you can shave for even for an hour and a half movie some some time on off it or add more more substance where it's it's needed and yeah he too always try to tell what a movie needs to be because this very much feels like almost an art piece by yeah like it sounds
maybe sounds like pedantic to be like it's a student film or something like that but it almost seems like a dare or a challenge to be like what if I made a movie with no dialogue rather than that idea being a natural sort of organic way of arriving there it just is like well what if we just didn't have dialogue wouldn't that be crazy like it just and it doesn't add enough for me but yeah we and I find myself circling in in the discussion of this because it is the rises and falls of
this movie are are minor and more at the beginning and and where the middle is is that a little repetitive part.
What is there anything there is a graveyard that's one other seat location you find a little about a bit stuff out there that her mom is dead and you know you see her friends graveyard but I like as a just an actor moment at the beginning when she's visiting her mom's grave like and she's walking away and there's just people out of focus and she's so like socially awkward that she just like it's before she leaves she looks in the mirror and practices waving and smiling
love that moment great actor moment especially moving to a dialogue like that's great stuff she's bringing so much to the table with this and then yeah she just like looks over and smiles and does that same thing just a just how she practices and then just looks away and discuss it just like to be so self inflicting these these wounds in yourself and in this this composure that you have or you just can tell that this person has no has a very little self confidence
and respect and she does that so well which is a is necessary when you can't speak it you got to just roll up to the mailbox and be like I hope no one sees me and you're just like what is her deal but then the ending shot of dancing credit of the movie that was a was a nice ending scene and for a sci-fi little short story sci-fi thing of like yeah someone dancing while while flying saucers are going overhead as a this is a fun enough little short story sort of scene I think reminded me of
a short story yeah. Yeah absolutely and there isn't anything inherently wrong with that.
You know it just yeah it just kind of again a lot of this just feels like a little bit of like a placeholder plotter does not it has an idea that's all that it cares about and you know what there are plenty of movies that have been made like that and it's not to this movie's discredit to be like that it doesn't need to be super deep but it just it's it rides a weird line that we've been writing this conversation about you know it's not that we hate this movie or just like
this movie even but I don't know what is it trying to do yeah what is it trying to do what is it trying to say and like it's lost a little is it just doesn't have to answer any of those questions that maybe you need answer just a little bit just a tiny little bit more I'd say yeah.
Yeah but it's a little bit more yeah it's it's this movie and the artists they're pretty much the same doing the same thing doing the same thing I'm only I didn't really didn't have much notes I think the only other one was I was I just put put some shoes on. She like walks out the door and is leaving the house because it's like after the first alien death and she just leaving the house with no shoes fucking shoes on you just stepped in class.
I'm feeling good about our discussion though it's I think I am too yeah my notes are just a lot of like I've been saying is please I'm one of my notes is please please give us some other people to talk to yeah. It was I just need aliens are back again this little guy version of the alien is funny. Was the kind of notes I wrote.
Yeah there's it almost got into more of the introspective stuff when she swallowed that little little creature thing didn't stay there long and I'm not sure what else could be done with it but just some sort of like like the aliens invading had a little bit more like metaphor allegorical sort of sense with her own trauma something like a little bit more that connective tissue I think was is kind of my big deal with this movie and then just the the commitment to
know talking was not worth it for me for the most part overall yeah I didn't hate it didn't love it. So this rounds us off for the or spooky season I mean to shift into the next part of the podcast and listen to the views. I just want to leave this though asking like on a scale of one to five how scary would you put this movie. Uh five being the scariest one being the least scary yeah. No the other way. Whoa glad I clarified. I don't know like a two. It's really not scary.
Yeah I don't know I was going to I was going to say 2.5 but like yeah the aliens are kind of dopey in certain ways like they they really are not threatening I wanted because you don't see any other buddy anybody else and like you see the after effects of them getting the little it's more of a body snatchers thing where they're curious and they want to like take over but there isn't a moment where they straight up just like off somebody in town or something they're just kind
of like chasing her and she's able to outrun them at every turn and then just get stuck in a car or in a cabinet or like just have them with a miniature thing like I don't know they just did not seem threatening to me and that's kind of like to me and that just became more and more clear as time went on but what would you rate on the two as well. Yeah two and a half. Yeah that's what I was saying yeah. Half scary. It's like a half and half scary.
Let's listen to some reviews from the before we do that let's take a quick break. Yes quick break and we'll be right back for a review time. Welcome back everybody. We are going into review zone review territory. The polarizing reviews are rife here on the run run tea this evening of October 31st is a very spooky time to be recording a podcast. Let's check out what the people have to say it is an 82% certified fresh from the critics. Let's check out a little smattering of reviews here.
A 91 from Collider. Samantha Coley says Dever takes Duffield's clever anxiety inducing script and levels it up with her complex performance together the duo are a one to punch delivering a thought provoking sci-fi thriller that promises to become a favorite among genre lovers. Not. From Empire and 80 John Nugent says a close encounter of the wordless kind. This is a smart and splendidly scary horror sci-fi with a brilliantly brittle turn from Caitlyn Dever. It's brilliantly brittle.
Close encounter of the wordless kind. Oh John you've done it again. You devil. From IndieWire75 David Elrick says things get harried in a hurry and while Duffield doesn't reinvent the wheel when it comes to the various home alone like battles that pit alien versus Dever the spontaneous director stages them with rare aplomb and an unerring respect for the fact that Brinn's house represents her entire universe. Wow David got a lot out of this movie. Good for him. Yeah. I'll do maybe one more here.
From SlashFilm70 from Chris Evangelista. Chris says while I would have liked the layout of the house to be better established no one will save you makes the most of the limited locations providing you can have big thrills and chills in restricted spaces. That's a that's the critic side of the thing you start to get a little hint of some criticism at the end there. Let's check out some audience reviews.
Use some one stars from the audience strictly one stars on Google reviews this time because yeah it's not unlike this there's not on a lot of places because it's a Hulu thing from Grant McCaustland.
Grant says I normally love a good alien thriller slash horror signs dark skies the fourth kind but this was not it the first 15 minutes girl stabs alien in head girl pants heavily aliens do dance moves throw a bug takes over and then is easily removed alien falls off house then gets stuck in car girl goes up car with barbecue lighter girl goes to town gets spit on buys a disguise for some reason then goes home girl outruns alien with 20 foot appendages aliens have more
dialogue than girl girl dances the end the order of these events is probably incorrect but I promise you it doesn't matter what a pile of poo.
What a pile of poo he actually says what a pile pile of poo he adds two piles in there but I created big pile double pile from Zellian Marvel one star no one will save you the title is perfect and fitting for someone who acts foolishly no one can really save a fool hence one star no zero star option in this film everything is fine except for the lack of common sense in IQ below room temperature if it's a Netflix series episode titles can be like pilot one alien on a
vacation to if I sulk I go Hulk three the spits town for jogging saves you from alien five home is everything six three hot water kettles a day keeps the alien away seven the doctor says where did the alien go eight alien barbecue nine drag me to the UV light 10 welcome to the community I want to I want to watch that I want to alien barbecue that sounds lit this sounds like a cool album to have music and then 11 you'll find smile on every alien face a couple listing
reviews from Fabiso mo coquane one star if you're reading this take it as a cease and desist order this film is a master class in poor storytelling whatever the visual whatever in the visuals are cool and the attempt at an alternative narrative is almost commendable but it is a bad movie so bad oh wait oh I lost oh that's in so bad yeah it's just so bad yeah and let's so bad so bad let's do like one or two more okay so let's not end it on so bad from Martha Ward one star
it was so promising the first 30 minutes were scary and suspenseful I was cheering for the character to run hide fight but then I mean I honestly I think this was written by someone who murdered someone and wanted aliens to reward them with a world full of zombie alien body snatchers for a new life with no accountability anti social persons fantasy IDK that's probably an insult to anti-soesh people this movie could have been the flick of the year but it was the flop of the year
disappointed disappointed it had potential I was going to do one more let me here it is from Mick kids though and one star they say horrible just absolutely horrible I can't believe someone really produced a movie like this how can someone watch such a poopy cock a poopy boring horrible goofy movie it was not silly it was so confusing my cat ended up in my oven that's how confused he was he didn't know the difference between his own bed and even started a moating he literally
started doing the gritty while playing Roblox he started fortnight a moating and Roblox a moating at the same time I'm so disappointed I wasted my money on Hulu just to watch this Grr I'm so angie Tiss made me shown my other side thank you we're not just telling stories we're changing lives wow and that should close us out there but that's part of the internet review we've ever had on this show yes but that's what's contributing to these numbers that we hold
fast to here on PolarizeBot is like every now and then you got to do a fucking troll review because they account for part of the score we talked about Captain Marvel I mean come on so I mean getting a taste of those reviews people I think are extremely frustrated without the dialogue like that's got to be that that seemed to be like a big thing not much happens I think some of those were some of them were more facetious than others and I think they were frustrated
with how it ended I think frustrated with the whole experience in in a broad way at least from from some of those reviews I got I don't know it seems understandable that not everyone would love this do you do you agree I do agree yeah because it's it's too like genre E and like trying to be indie that I think a lot of the stuff that we've talked about wanting more of I think the general audience would be also interested in a little bit more meat with these potatoes
and be well I mean you got plenty of boiling water going plenty of potatoes yeah the grill going yeah let's get alien alien barbecue yeah let's try that try that alien meat okay oh come on you would do it you fucking do it alien jerky we're just going to you know fucking place off a highway from here in Las Vegas yeah go to go to Roswell storm area 51 with Naruto run yeah yeah and we get the jerky man that's all I want just give me that jerky yum yum yum yum yum yum yum yum yum
let's give our Numbies speaking of those those damn Numbies. What do you say, Brandini? You want to go first or second? If we could, I'm going to do a flip of coin. Flip it. Flip it. I dare you. What are you calling? You can call it. Or I can pull it up on the googs. Oh, you got it right there. You want me to call it? OK. Yeah, I can see. OK. No one else at home can, but it's OK. Pull it. Tails. He's got it. He's got it. I got to get some drum roll. It's so you get to choose, I guess.
We decided what that meant. Your first. Is that what that means? OK, we did decide what it means before we flip. But yeah, this was I'm pretty lukewarm on this movie. I think there's. Enough to like about it and it doesn't and it's not too long that it's not completely like offensive, like some of the audience reviews seem to make it out to be. I was frustrated by some aspects of it.
I think what was cool at the beginning, beginning as far as no dialogue ended up being a real hamper to the narrative and the overall enjoyment of this movie being, you know, an hour and a half long. It pushed it just past an hour. If it was, I don't know, I feel like if it was an hour, I've made this point before, but an hour of no dialogue and it was an episode of a of an anthology, I could be a little bit more on board.
But the fact that it was a fully fleshed out movie with that being such a hokey part of it ended up being frustrating by the end when it was doing its. You know, purported like job at the beginning to me. It was like, oh, you know, she is by herself. She's in talk to many people that tracks. She doesn't go into town often when she does. She doesn't talk to anybody. The alien thing happens.
But when she goes into town that other time gets spit on and then just goes back home, I'm like kind of out at that movie, out of the movie at that time, which I think which I'd say is like about halfway or so. I feel like or maybe even just like a half hour in because I feel like I marked it was like a half hour in when they get when she gets spit on because that was like so close to dialogue. And I was really just aching for it at that point instead of being like, wow, this is not necessary.
It's kind of cool that they're doing it this far. And that's hard. I don't want to completely hang my hat on just that being the main criticism because if I were to touch on the positive sides of it, Diva's performance was otherworldly. It was it was fantastic.
The director knew how to shoot her really well and her expressions and her face like through the rearview mirror in the car and her angst and and, you know, rise and falls of emotion when she had to pretend to, you know, again, like looking in the mirror and pretending to be happy and that smile on everything. Like that's she made a meal out of it, but not in a way that I was ever annoyed with her.
And to be with somebody for an hour and a half, just one character where she's in every scene, I think, yeah, that's a big, big plus for for this movie and something where like, yeah, I heard she was really great and book smart and she's like and dear Evan Hansen. She wasn't bad in that. I wasn't crazy about that movie. That was right. It wasn't the problem of that movie either, but she was the coolest performance. Chris, what plat? What is it? He's in the yeah, that was a theater camp movie.
He's it's pretty he's pretty great in that. Another time, another time, but yeah, great performance. And then the design of the alien speech. Maybe it's just because there was no other speech, but I was just like, oh, this is cool. There sounds really cool and interesting and worked with like my sub on my, you know, my surround sound system. It was like, oh, really low, low and loud and made the ship seem a little more menacing.
I like the idea of an ending that isn't necessarily going to solve for problems, but it kind of utilizes in a way for her to. Yeah, I think, like I said before, I would have liked it. It was it was her more her decision, but her smile at the end in this whole alien world with a bunch of weird aliens, you know, pretending to be people. That's kind of like cool little image there that they knew that they could like at least end on a bang with that image at the end there.
But overall, yeah, it was it was more frustrating and not as much of a satisfying experience as I wanted it. And I'm feeling very lukewarm. So I feel like it deserves kind of a lukewarm score. And it's yeah, I don't think it's fresh. It's like a. It's like a 52. Lou 52. It's kind of just like, yeah. And I'm not sure if I would recommend it wholeheartedly, but in an exercise of. Telling somebody about it, it would and that's what this movie is going to be.
Inevitably for me is going to be like, that's the one that doesn't have dialogue. And if you want to see a movie that's an hour and a half and doesn't have dialogue and it does OK. An OK job of getting through that. It's it's there. But if the beginning doesn't doesn't catch you, then I'd say just just put it back down. So it's just a half hearted recommendation for me. And I'd like to hear from the great Bantini. Yeah, so. I wouldn't recommend this movie to people.
It's unfortunate because, yeah, I think Caitlin, the Diverse performance is worth talking about, but this movie is so much more concept and flash over substance. It's. Long story. Flash over substance, it's. Library technology platform fodder, unfortunately, I would love. I love the fact that this movie got made to a degree. And again, I like the performance. Ever. But. This isn't going to save anything. It's not going to persuade people on anything. It doesn't have an interest.
Like it's point of view is sparse and so difficult to recommend. So for my score, since I wouldn't really recommend this movie, you know what? I really do want to give enough, like I just said, credit to the movie. I'm going to go a 49% is where I'm at. Is a 49er. 49er. Well done. Well done podcast. Well done, brandini James. Steady spank you, help you help her 10. It's been enjoyable talking about this movie.
And if I haven't already said it, I do think this is right in our alley of this podcast of inciting a reaction in people and the best way you can do it. And in a lot of ways is coming out on reviews on round tomatoes or the internet. And yeah, I'll see every single movie is just. There'll be one person that will say. I never write reviews, but this movie made me write my first review here it is.
And it and that's the kind of shit that I think these movies here on this podcast do more than others is make people be like, I got a fucking. Let out some steam on how I feel about this good or bad. And that's always enjoyable to go through that process. Hope you guys have enjoyed us doing the same thing as well and talking about our our opinions. It's it's always fun for us to shoot the shit about movies.
And we would like to invite you next time to join us for our movie, which will be another one from 2023. It is infinity pool. A Cronin Berge. Picture Roni. It is an 87 percent certified fresh movie by the critics. It is a 52 percent by the audience horror mystery thriller. We're keeping it going a little bit with the opto novo or situation. I'll read you the synopsis here. Let's see what it says on Rotten Tomatoes itself.
While staying at an isolated island resort, James and M are enjoying a perfect vacation of pre-steam beaches, exceptional staff and soaking up the sun. But guided by the seductive and mysterious Gabby, they venture outside the resort grounds and find themselves in a culture filled with violent violence, hedonism and untold horror. Oh God. A tragic accident leaves them facing a zero tolerance policy for crime. Either you'll be executed or if you're not, you'll be executed.
If you're rich enough to afford it, you can watch yourself die instead. Let's see what it's about. Whoa. We'll find out. I already feel like I didn't even want to know that. You'd probably be good just going in blind and I'm excited to see what it's about. We love you all. Our little polar bears out there. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. If you want to reach us anywhere else, polarizethepod.gmail.com. We're live on twitch.tv slash polarizepod. Do it. Do it. X as well.
It's one. Polarizepod and YouTube Polarizepod. There's recordings on there. If you find that an easy way to listen, maybe we'll throw more stuff up on there if you guys are interested. Let us know. Let us know. Yeah. And until next time, bye-bye. Every time I hear Monster Mash, I'm like, this is not a banger. This is not a banger. And I know bangers. I know bangers. I used to be in the early 2000s, ever been to Canada.
Yeah. If you have in the early 2000s, that's probably me playing them bangers. And every single time I've ever heard Monster Mash, I'm like, nah, my guy, that's not a banger. Nobody ever wants to hear Monster Mash. And if you play Monster Mash outside of Halloween, you're a psycho. If Monster Mash has ever made a playlist that's not for Halloween, you're weird. You're freaking weird. Stay away from me, dude. I've heard it enough. I've had my fill of freaking Monster Mash.
We've all had a fill of Monster Mash. It was a mess, it was a mess, it was a mess, it was a mess, it was a mess. It was a mess. 19,000 times I hear it was a It was a monster. Nobody wants to frickin hear that Monster Mask 1950s rock and roll song sung by the vampire All three of those men Suck my guy
