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Trophies and Stats

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Donnie and Ducky discuss WSOP trophies, year-over-year trends, and Kid Poker stats.

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Hello everyone, Welcome back to a new episode of the Poker Go Podcast. My name is Donnie Peters. His name is Tim Duckworth. It is June twenty eighth, twenty twenty four, Day thirty two of the twenty twenty four World Series of Poker. Not as jam back to a show today as yesterday yesterday? I was where's all the home from yesterday? When you want it back back? I know, I was thinking. I was thinking on the drive in. I came in here late tonight, stayed home and rested.

Today I skipped the Colossus soft soft. I feel really really tired today. So whatever. So I'm driving in and I'm like thinking, because I did part of our rundown at home. And then as I'm driving in, I'm like, why didn't they take some of the stuff that was yesterday and like make it today, because like balance it out? Because yesterday was bananas,

which was awesome. I mean, don't get me wrong, but today there's it's like kind of nothing, you know, like you said, so it's you know, you probably could have balanced those two things, you know a little bit better. Yeah, but you could have the millionaire maker finishing today, you know. Yeah. And then and then that way because if you think, well, we think about it through the lens of production, right

and making the content getting it out there. So for us, you know, when we make the list at the beginning, like okay, what do we want to stream? Fifty k's on that list for sure, the final table definitely, you know, we did much more than a fild table with found tables for sure on the list, and so was the file table with the Millionaire maker. Like those are both on there, so it's beneficial to have those on different days. Anyway. We have a winner in the five

thousand dollars Seniors high Roller, Mark Checkwitz takes it down. Hector Barry won the six hundred dollars Poker News Deep Stack Championship. We have the ten thousand dollars PLO Championship down to the final five players. We'll touch on that because that is going to be streaming on Saturday, twenty five hundred dollars. Nolam

At hold Them is down to the final four tables. They are still going to play a little bit more tonight, so I'm probably not going to have a final number there, but we can hit on who is still in the five hundred dollars. Salute to Warriors is down to the final handful of tables,

as is the fifteen hundred dollars stud high Low. We have the Colossus kicked off today, the Ladies Championship kicked off today, and the big and bad ten thousand dollars Nolman hold them deuced to seven single draw retraction question Mark, what's that? I don't know what that is, so I can have to make a retraction. I can't wait to see what that that is. We'll get to it and then and then listen. I thought you had an interesting tweet today, interesting post on X Twitter slash X. I still don't

know what to call it. Officially, we officially call in X. You can know whatever you want. I'm calling it. I mean, I know people out there say Twitter slash, which that's like kind of where I am, because I don't know if we or you should say with Twitter. I don't think you should do the slash pick. But does anyone know what X is? I mean, I have no idea. If you're out there, let us know if you know what X is. But yeah, you had an interesting post there. I want to hit on it because it was a

lot of interesting stats. You're the stat man Daniel reference did in your interview with him last night. He said, oh you're bringing the stats or you're the stat man, or whatever the heck you said. So we can touch on that stuff. We'll hit on what starts tomorrow. So only two days left to get your reviews in half one day something like that. You're gonna hear this on Saturday. Yeah, people gonna j it to tomorrow. So they basically got twenty four hours left. You have twenty four hours left to

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in to the news. Five thousand dollars Seniors high rollers, six hundre and eighty entries. Mark Checkwitz took it down. Cookie Monster, cookie Monster is what he was called. He had a little cookie Monster figurine. He was wearing a Cookie Monster shirt. He had a pretty awesome MTV hat. That was a cool hat. Cool dude, Yeah, yeah, I need you'd notice that it was a very cool hat. He won five hundred and seventy

three thousand dollars. Hefty, hefty, hefty payout. Check Witz cashed in the super seniors event, three hundred and ninety fifth place in that event for two thousand and one dollars. That was his first ever w SIP cash, so this win is his second ever WSOP cash Checkwitz defeated Ari Kleiper in second place, with Ari taking him three hundred and eighty two thousand dollars. He also cashed in another seniors event at the World Trees Booker. He took three

hundred secondy second place in the seniors championship for thirty seven hundred dollars. Mike Vella third place, two hundred and sixty six K, Kevin Nathan fourth place, hundred and eighty a K Samuel Wagner, fifth place, one hundred and thirty five K Brune Lopez, sixth place, ninety nine K, John Thornton seventh place, seventy three K, Richard Lowe fifty six K for an eighth place finish. Angeli Jordanson got forty three thousand dollars for her ninth place finish.

Another really close score for Angela Jordanson and then Judith Bilin tenth place just under thirty four thousand dollars. I do want to give a shout out to one Senior. I mean that with all the love and respect in my heart. Peter Camaras he cashed in all three seniors events at the twenty twenty four and I believe that's the he's the only player to do so as long as

the results are correct. And also, sandwiched in between his cash in the Seniors Championship and the Super Seniors, he went on over to Venetia and cashed the seniors event over there, so he was the best senior r GPI award went on. Peter, I was thinking what would be cool? Well, quickly he got seven hundred and ninety first Peter Kamaros in the Senior champion for

twenty one hundred dollars. He got one hundred and thirty fifth place in the Super Seniors for three thousand and thirty nine dollars, and then he got fifty

second in the Seniors high Roller for just over twelve thousand dollars. I was thinking, with these seniors events, because there are now three of them, it would be cool to do. I don't know if you remember Full Tilt had what was it called, yeah, the Double something, Yeah, I remember Rich Ryan producer Rich Ryan like made like the final table both of them were like ran super deep in both of them, and there was a jackpot. Yeah for like if you did you have to win both. I thought

you had to win both, didn't you. Interview Like the guy that did this, like from the airport what I don't swear you've told this story before. What was it Chad Holloway from Pocon's. It definitely was not me. Oh my god, some guy did it. The Daily Double, Yeah, I think it was a daily the full tilt Daily Double. I believe it. It should be a seniors triple, the Senior So what they have, what they had, what the Daily Double was is they had two tournaments on

full tilt. I believe they were ten dollars each starting at the same time. They took an additional tiny bit of rake out of the buy in to go into a daily double jackpot. And then if you cash in like both tournaments, you receive a portion of the daily double jackpot, and it split amongst everyone that double cashes. So if you're the only person that double cashes, you get that full portion. If two people do it, you split

it, et cetera, et cetera. The best daily double finish gets a percentage of the jackpot as well, so like if you you know, if you go like if you finish first and one and fifth in the other year, for sure going to get it. So then you can make extra money. And then also if you made both final tables, you got an even

larger percentage of the of the jackpot. But it would be cool if they had some sort of like yeah, you know, overall kind of like overall seniors title, like in a way like a like a mini mini mini Player of the Year like senior. You remember when I the first interview of the summer Sean dap we talked about maybe it was at first, but player of the Year, and he also talked about it last year with him. We

talked about it last year with him as well as well. Yeah, he wants more play of these, and I'm pretty sure you mentioned seeing his Player of the Year would be pretty cool. I'm not sure if I would open event, but as a s is getting to nitpicky before we've even like gotten out of bed. But like I wouldn't call them all player of the year, like I would just call it, like, you know, like the best senior like something just basically have like a little trophy or you know,

honor that person in some sort of way. You know. Also can it can entice people give him a bonus like play of the series, maybe they get a best or maybe they get a main event seat the person who does that, like something like that. You know, I think that would be pretty cool or something even Yeah, like you know, I think that would be just just cool to honor the seniors. You know, then you get people that cash in the first one, they're like, okay, like I'm

on the board, Like, let's go for the second one. Let's stay here a little bit longer, like let's do that sort of thing. It's also something that I think you can use to shed more light on these events. So I think that would be a cool little wrinkle. It doesn't really work with I mean, it doesn't work for like the Ladies Championship for example, because that's only one event. Right that said, I think we've talked about it before. How about a Ladies high roller? I think in ladies

will be very very popular. Yeah, if you're if you're a male hunter kated buy in if you're a female ten K. I was thinking five K, but what I'm saying seniors is one K and five ladies is one K, make a five and thinky K for the men. Yeah, I think that would be pretty pretty cool to have. Hector Barry wins the six hundred dollars Poker News Deep Stack Championship two hundred and eighty three thousand dollars for him. Barry defeated Luke Varasso in heads up play, Verasso taking home one hundred

and eighty eight thousand dollars. Harrison ashdown one hundred and forty thousand dollars for him. Good to see Harrison hit a score. I've played with them a bit around Las Vegas, some very very good, solid player. He ends up with more than one hundred and forty thousand dollars for his third place finish. Brendan Shimamoto one hundred and five thousand dollars for fourth place. Darryl Fish

took a fifth place for just under eighty thousand dollars. She how Zang sixth place, sixty K Jolan Mancini seventh place, forty six K, Thomas Murphy thirty six thousand dollars for eighth place, and Kenny hun twenty eight thousand dollars for a ninth place finish. More than five thousand entries in this event. I did think it was interesting that the Deep Sack Championship got slightly fewer runners

than the Deep Sack. That happened like the next day it was like fifty one hundred and something for the Poker News Deep Sack Championship, then it was fifty three hundred and something for the regular six hundred dollars Deep Sack. I just thought that that was interesting that that's how it shook out. Well,

you'll get I'll give you some answers, Okay, go ahead. I mean one day further into these events that directly kind of finnel play is into this kind of price pointy six hundred, you know, fifteen hundred dollars million maker Supersenius three K no limit haul. You got players in that that are busting that day for where day one of the Poconinese Deep Sack. But now they got something to play on June twenty six, So that that was interesting.

I think there's also I'm a heavy believer and appetite that there's an appetite for faster toboy tournaments for us REX. I agree, and so I think it's true day is much better than a four day for a lot of people out there, especially you know, like I mean, I think people are over this four or five day grind stuff. Other than like listen, you can obviously have them, yes, and you should have them for sure, you

know, but I almost like don't think that's preferred in a way. Like let's say, let's use you know, the best way to paint examples often is just to do extremes. Let's say that like every one k to fifteen hundred was like a monster stack or a Millionaire Maker structure where it was five days long. I mean, you would get people would get so burned out, people wouldn't be able to come out, take time off for work,

over and over again, all that sort of stuff. So for the more recreational player, which I very much include myself in, you know, I play as a side thing. It's not my main profession or my main source

of income by any means. So you know, I like to get in there, get out, you know, give me, give me a halfway decent structure, and let's go. Yeah, if if I want a really good structure, you know, and I do expect a very good structure for things like the WSP main event or the WPT at the win or you know, even the monster stack stuff like that, Like that's what I expect, and then it's on me if I want to play them or if I want to skip them. You know, oftentimes I'm skipping those. I will splash

into some of the ones from here and there. But yeah, I mean even this this three K that's that finished yesterday that I played, and I mean that structure was insanely good, like so good sixty minute levels. I think you started forty K and chips. There was still registration into day two, four day tournament, so like that's just like really really really good bang

for your buck in that tournament. If you have the time, then you want to play it, you know for the other stuff like the Colossus that kicked off today, these regular deep stack tournaments, you know the mini main event that's coming up, like that, getting into the money on day one I think is awesome. Like I think that's like the perfect sweet spot for

that price point. And then if you I mean, if you want to get crazier, then you just go play the super Turber bounties and you just win the bracelet in one day, right, Like you know, if you're want to do that, so I just thought that was interesting that that the second one got got a little bit more on the six hundred you know, championship four day events starting on say the Monday, and then another six hundred

obviously fasta starting the next day. Do you think that's actually a good thing or do you think that's actually kind of maybe bad for the players that they're kind of talkting. I mean I think it's fine. I would, in no way, shape or form ever start the Deep Sack Championship on a Monday. Well, I mean I just said that, I don't know if I for sure start that on a Thursday or Friday. We've gone over this so many times before. I was just saying days to say days. No,

that's when they started it, right for real. I mean it ended today Friday. It was a four day tournament started on Tuesday of Tuesday. So yeah, I mean Monday or Tuesdays just has to be the worst starting to ever. Yeah for something, Well that you know, they got the Cossus this weekend, so they probably have so then last weekend. Why couldn't it be because I had million million maker last weekend. I mean, there's enough weekends. I mean you can I don't think there is the RELI make into

Colossus, into Mini main Event, into Main event. Before that, we had so we had you know, Gladiators, Monster Stock. The weekends are pretty clustered with these kind of so I would say I would say almost that I almost think it's better to put like the Monster Stack, like start that one on a Monday, thinking the same thing, just because first of all, it's a priceier event, which I think people are going to be taking a little bit more seriously, so like things like taking stuff off of work,

all that sort of stuff. I think people are going to be more inclined to do for that. You know, I just think you get more in a fifteen dollars Monster staf Act that is a very good structure, drawn out tournament. You know, it's gonna take four to five days, all

that sort of stuff. You're gonna get more of a professional filled field or very very serious recreational field field versus the six Deep Sack, even if it is the six Poka News Deep Stack Championship event, right, I still think that's very much like your recreationals like like that's like the deep Stacks are basically catered towards the recreationals, and this is their championship event. So I think you're gonna get more of those players, and those players I think would need

a weekend versus a weekday. Just just some thoughts there. What do you think of the little trophy or these? I think I think first and second got a trophy, but a little like, oh we're giving trophies for second place, that's what we're doing now. I don't know, this is like this is like you know, I don't want to say, here we go. I see everyone gets a ribbon. I love it. I see to know to do if you get it, if you cash, you should get

a Basically you just cash. Relax. I see two coins every every paye jump, you go up, you get an added a link added to the bracelet. That's not a bad idea. I don't know if this is getting two coins or if one was actually second place. I'm not gonna read into it, but like, what are your thoughts on like this? But little bonus trufe kind of like it. No, No, it's about the bracelet. This is just a side thing. This is like a cord protect I

could care less about a card protector. I mean, it's the bracelet. The bracelet is the bracelet. The bracelets are the thing everyone is chasing. They're chasing the bracelets and they're chasing the money. That is true. Well, if you don't want your gold pokemuse cord protector a twenty four carrot gold card protector, I'm probably melting it. And no, you're doing it not okay, says the guy who snap sold his little that was twenty four carrot

gold cord. Can get way more money for that. It's about the bracelet the bracelet. How much is that with a couple of thousand. I mean, listen, if I was in charge of Poker News, I would file that under waste of money. Okay, is what I would do. I mean, I just I just would I like it. I'm team gold coin. I mean it also, whatever it does match what they do in the deep Ya's what I want to get if you make the final type of deep sex. I'm just I don't. I don't necessarily care for that sort of

Okay, I basically care for Like in terms of trophies and poker. I mean there's two that matter. There's WIP bracelets and the Golden Eagle from the and no, not the goal. Wow, the the WPT Champions Cup and everything else is secondary to those two things. And it's the WSP bracelets on top. You know, the Champions Cup is second and then everything else is behind that. I mean, it just is. What I would question is,

yeah, what happened to what we got it? We got the twenty four carrot gold Medallion, chip protector, I don't know what you want to call it, button, et cetera for this. Where's the David chip Ries Trophy? Wow? That was that's that's the trophy? Did the seniors get the eagle? Was that ever? Like? It was? Oh yeah, okay, I heard they were ordering new ones and they hadn't arrived yet, that's all. Did they order them yesterday? I don't want to get involved

in if they ordered them. I mean, but that's what I was. Do you have how much time you have ten months between wsps? Like maybe, Look, we've had trophies delayed before, we have Yes, we've also expedited trophies and have expedited I mean yes, we have paid massive expert expeditation fees. That's me if that's the word. I'm a big fan of David Schipries Trophy. It's kind of cool. It's good good for photos. It's kind of it's good for photos. I like that everyone's name is, you

know, on it, Like I really like that. Then, and you know, I think the design is awesome. I mean, it's it. I'm no comment on the design, but it's wow. It's a great way to commemorate correct David chip Rees, who is widely regarded as the best all around poker player of all time, and that's why the trophy was named after him. Right, So I just think that it's very important to have that there. So, you know, I miss it when it's not there. I do. And I'm not really a trophy guy, but that one has

always stood out. It's always like it's on the podium, front and center when you walk up onto the stage, like you're if you're a player, you're walking past it and you're like I want that. Yeah, You're like I want that. It probably hits you that this is the David, you know, Chippery's trophy, like like all that sort of stuff. You know. So I'm gonna idea what if WSP decided, Hey, we're gonna get rid of this trophy because we want the true value. As you've kind of

touched on to be the WSP bracelet. Okay, I actually had a thought on this when I was out there at the final table yesterday, because before they moved the bracelet up to heads up play to put it between the players in this case Price Jockey and Daniel Legrano, it's out on the podium, you know, for production. Don't they do a special bracelet for the ladies event, like it has like diamonds or something, belief? So yeah, like Red Root CPC should be a special bracelet. It doesn't need to be

main event special. But I mean that's like the second biggest, most important, prestigious tournament of the summer. It is like that. Should that should be like a you know, maybe a little bit bigger. Maybe it's got something to resemble the fact that it's nine games on it for thee Yeah, I don't you know something like that. I have a dude, I have a question. We can probably look at some pitches and figure it out. But is there any difference between the twenty five hundred OWEI bracelet, the six

hundred dollars deep sack bracelet and the two fifty K bracelet? I don't think so. So is it just really ladies in the main. Is that what

kind of is that kind of it? Yeah? But I would I would, I would do something for the fifty k people, do something for the fifty k. I think you should do something for the two fifty k. I think we should do something for the scene is And I would even say we could do something for the employees event I know you disagree with that one, but hey, if we're going to take that one step there, they can win a golden watch Prudential. That would actually bad That would actually be

pretty awesome, a golden lanyard to employee badge. The ten K Poo Championship is down to the final five players. This event will be live streaming on poker Go on Saturday, June twenty ninth, which is likely today you are listening to this Poker Girl podcast. Episode leader is Joshua Adkins WPT Best Bet Scramble Champion. That's all right, I cover that is crushing. According to Tim Chip cancer there who else is there? We got Ellie, Nakashi and

Frenchman second in ships with did you say Akins had twenty seven million? No, but he is three times second place. He has three times second place. The final the hand that bust at sixth place finish show was three bet pot. They got it all in on Jack Ki Flop. Agkins had King Jack Queen. The other guy that busted in six had Ice King King X And that's why we at a quick final table and Adkins has all the chips, but Frenchman Ellie Nakashi nine point five million, Jonathan Bower's five point nine

million man win four point six million. Rounding out the final five Israeli aushriy Lamani with one point four million, which is nine big glines. So we're going to catch that tomorrow, probably lose one pretty quickly, and then we're going to have an Adkins you know, is he going to apply the pressure and put some people in some ICM troubles because first prize is a big one. Yeah, more than one point three million dollars up top. Again,

this event had eight hundred and eleven entries. We mentioned that yesterday smashing the year before. As all these ten k plus big bet events do, I mean they've been crushing this year. I'm pretty sure they've all been up right. The twenty five K fifty K Hunter K two fifty k Nolan Hold Them was a big bet, right, yeah, the only big Yeah. The mixed game ones have been kind of like summer up, summer down. You

know, they're bouncing around last year's number. I mean, the one that sticks out the most is the fifty k PPC just won by Daniel was down ten entries from the year before, so you know, I thought that was interesting. Fifth place three hundred and fifteen thousand dollars in this ten k PLO Championship up top one million, three hundred and twenty thousand dollars, massive,

massive, massive payouts there. This is a PGT qualifying event, so there's a lot of points up for grabs in this one, a lot of WSP Player of the Year points up for grabs in this one. We lost Elis Parsonen in seventh place for one hundred and seventy two k, Richard Greiico fifteenth for sixty three thousand dollars, Stephen Chidwick seventeenth for fifty one thousand, six

hundred dollars. He scored us eighteen fantasy points. We listen, it's not the biggest score fantasy wise for our team, right, but we are I think in eleventh place. Now. The Dinkers team, the Dinkers is freaking running away with this damn thing. They're up to eight hundred and ninety nine points with a ton of events still left. We are in eleventh. We have four hundred and sixty five points, I believe. But the most important

thing for our team. I know it doesn't sound great to be, you know, to say that we're in eleventh, but eleven out of nineteen we are within striking distance of the top four now, which is important because that's where the money is, that's where you cash. Yeah, maybe not within striking distance within the Dinkers because they're running away with this thing. But when leban is winning for more braceles, so I think we'll be fine. This

is very true. This is also very true. So you know, we are going to catch the Dinkers unless he just wins like the fifteen hundred dollars eight game three times or something ridiculous like that. He can win the closer, that would be great. He could win the main event too, why not, right? But my point is that Stevie got the most points out of any twenty five K player in this field, which is great. Yeah. So in terms of a fade perspective, we faded the crap out of

this field. No one else made the top eighteen where the bonus was except for Steven Chidwick. So that's great, great, great great. Noah Boken twenty first place for fifty one thousand dollars, Eric Wasserson twenty fifth place forty three thousand dollars, Philip Bramos twenty sixth place for forty three dollars one thousand

dollars. Again, that is the ten k PLO Championship, down to five from a field of eight hundred and eleven entries, live streaming on Saturday, June twenty ninth on Poker Go. Tim's giving me the three symbol, which means three pm start time for the stream. Is my guess correct? All right? Cool? Twenty five hundred dollars no limit, hold them big field here, twenty two hundred and twenty nine entries. Looks like they're down to

the final four tables. I think they just got to three tables there, Okay, three tables there you go, Natchubb, you have a Nacha. He's on top six point five million as of the lost. I'm really curious, like I need this. I need to study Nacho playing poker. Do you really. The reason why I say that is because every time I watch this guy he was he was a table away right next to me in the

three K Nolan Hold Them. I see him a lot. I went out there for fifteen minutes or so to watch him play this twenty five hundred. The guy is on his phone one hundred and twenty five percent of the time. How does he play poker at all? He just gets the goods, gets it out Like, I don't understand it's I'm like part of me is like says, you know, one he's he's for sure not paying attention.

Like, so that's one part of me. The second part of me is that if you're at the table and you see this player, whatever the player, whoever the player is, if it's not Driver, it's somebody else, constantly grinding their phone and then all of a sudden stops playing their phone and plays a hand. Does that means they probably have a decent hand? They always have it? Yeah, I'm just kind of confused by the whole thing.

I don't really know how Nato does it, but he's doing it in this in this twenty five hundred dollars no limit hold them, I forget what it had last year, trying to find it. What was it? Two two two nine? Is that what it said? Well, a couple of other players, Uh, that's stilly in. Andrea Carrie fifth in ships four point three million, Kai Superman win three point five million, he's ninth in chips, Barry Schulman two point two million. Set is an absolute freaking blast

time. I mean that guy he gets in a hand, He like, he doesn't play a lot of hands, but he gets in a hand and it's just like getting the most nonsensical blasting you've ever seen. Michael Leang the not the old Michael Lang, Michael Leang, Cilian David Guay, Ruy Ferrera, Mike Holtz, Justin Leberto, Brian Yune rounds out the twenty eight remaining players. So I believe last year this event had two thousand and sixty eight entries, So whatever, about one hundred and seventy or so one hundred and

sixty one was the increase. Just looking at the numbers overall, because I updated a bunch of this stuff on my sheet, average increase is at zero point seventy three percent. So what that means is that it's basically just tracking very much in line with last year. You know all that you need to dive deeper in that number. What do you want me to what do you want me to die? I want you to make some columns. I got two columns. I want more columns. I don't want to do Just send

it to me. I want a no limit. I want to pay a lot. I want buying that God one thousand by one thousand, way too much work. Come on, man, don is cool? Get get these. I already told you what's so much. If it's a big bad game ten thousand dollars or higher, it's way up. If it's everything else, it's just track. I want to see no limit across the bott what's that?

No limit is pretty much again ten thousand dollars in higher smash. If it's the Juice original, this is an easy, like little couple of funs. I understand it's easy, but I'm telling you how it actually is. If it's if it's below that, it's either up a little bit or it's down a little bit. You know, it's just it's just like right there plus or minus like five percent. What's the biggest stand out though, the

biggest standout, the biggest drop off in anything you think like something. So the one that stood out to me the most, even though it's not percentage wise, the largest drop is the fact that the Gladiators was down more than twenty four hundred entries. Yeah, I think so. The thing is with that is you you know, from doing the stuff over at the studio, is that could be just like re entry very exactly. You know, people just bag chips on in early flight, then they don't fire the other flights.

Like that's just how two bullet guys have bagged one bullet guy's busted. If you're if you're a six bullet guy, you back on one bullet, Well, you just didn't spend five more bullets, you know, So that that can just be how it is. There. The other one that stood out that was down a lot was the ten K Superchub Up Bounty that was down a lot twenty four percent. That was also held earlier in the day, which might have affected people jumping in Okay. And then the five thousand

dollars six Max Nolan was down almost thirty two percent. That's because of thirty two percent wanted to play the two fifty k and they didn't. Oh yeah, Lewis Spencer. Yeah, the fifty thousand dollars Nolan hold Him high roller up forty three percent. I mean that is just insane. What is the price of big coin on that? Listen to Toss the twenty five thousand dollars six max high roller up thirty one percent. I mean all these all these

high rollers are just rushing a ton. One hundred thousand dollars high roller up twenty percent. I mean they're all the p LO high rollers coming up to So that'd be a good indication both of those are going to be up. They're going to be up twenty percent minimum for sure. I mean, what's this ten thousand dollars Whatever the heck this thing is. I think the thing we're streaming tomorrow is up a ton of eleven percent, maybe seven to eight eleven, it's up eleven percent. God, I'm so good a math so

Asian. The one that's down, that sticks out the most is being down to me is the fifty k PPC two years ago one hundred and twelve, last year ninety nine, this year eighty nine. So I'm curious what's happening there? Is it? The big bet guys aren't getting in because they don't want to play with the mixed guys or mixed guys not getting in. Like

that's a good one to look at. I mean, like I mentioned it, I think on one of the solo pods that I did because I sat next to Dan Shack in the three K. He went deep enough in the Millionaire Maker skip it. He busted like right after registration closed, one in the Seniors, which he wanted, the super Seniors, which he wanted to play, also in the fifty K, so he just happened to miss it. Like, so there's stuff like that that happens that's out of your control.

But when your field is so small that even one entry helps so much, I don't think ren Lynn play it, but he was like in something, so I don't know if he also missed registration. I remember he was like playing on the day that it started. So that one is a good and kind of not easy because I started to do it at one point and

I kind of give up. But look at the actual number of unique players in each in each of those fifty k PPCs across the lifetime, and see who were who were losing year on your kind of thing, I think I have it from last year, and I think I can throw out I'm gonna throw out some names that may have skipped this year that I'm not sure you might be able to confirm. Bradley Berman, Kerry Katz, Warwick Music, Indian did I don't know. I'm just throwing some names that I'm I think

Kerry did play. Yeah, he had lost that hand against Ivy. Throwing out some names. Craig Chate, Chad Campbell, Creig Chate, I'm pretty sure did not play Roman, he played, Tima Faker's net scuff, George Wolf pretty sure he did not play Did Patrick Anton's played last year? I don't know. I've rejumbled the numbers. So like I'm just like looking down the list to see, like, oh, they may Phillip Long. Maybe can Chris Money make a play at Las Yo? And we all were like,

remember we were all want to make it doing. We were like, what is he doing to mon Nakamora, Jesse Klein, Remember he won the twenty five k Hoss in twenty twenty one and then kind of might a run playing a bunch of biggest stuff. So yeah, there's some names just I just stood out that probably played last year. They didn't mind not have played this year. I don't really looked, but overall the numbers are very much

just tracking with last year. So you know, if you're somebody who you know thinks forward to the WSP main event, as we do often, you know, I think last year's number is in play. Slightly below, it's in play, a bit above it is in play. You know, it's it's just kind of in play. So it's all in play, checking in on the what do we got going on? So the Slutta Warriors and the Seven codsid of house, where's the Salute Warriors at what's that? What's going

on there? Four five and seventeen entries looks like they are down to twenty nine. So approaching the final three tables, Paul Serrate out of Argentina looks to be the chip leader, if not one of the chip leaders. I don't recognize. I don't recognize any name. And that there's a lot of extras year in the chip counts. I put a lot of extras, Yeah, a lot of extras. At a lot is an understandment. There are two hundred and forty three people in the chip counts. I've been I don't

recognize the top lot of names. So that's going to be an interesting one. Yeah, but I mean that's kind of what you expect for this tournament, So no big deal there, haft the first place prize of course for a five hundred dollars buying you know, just these massive fields at the WSP. More than two hundred and seven thousand dollars up top. This event is up year over year. I think it was forty three hundred last year if I remember correctly, So a little bit of an uptick there. Love to

see it more than one point eighty five million in the prize pool. And this one will finish tomorrow, correct, So you say, yeah, that is the salute to warriors fifteen hundred dollars, seven cards, stud high and low? Where they at with that? This one's up, by the way. That surprises me. Yeah, It's it's like flip a coin if it's going to be up or down. Yeah, Like that's just how these other tremens have been running six hundred eleven entries, they're down to twenty seven.

Thomas Taylor, somebody who's on my one dollar list every single year. Have you seen these hd them up this world series? He probably has seventeen cashes. I'll quickly rd it out. So that's what Thomas Taylor does. He has eight cashes, this will be his ninth. One of those is online. He has a second place in the one K PLO eight handed. I then for one hundred and seventy five K A couple runs in some of the low Baynes ones. But yeah, he's played out PGT series at the studio.

Last year he had looks like eleven ten cashes at the World Series. Yeah, last year in this stud high low E then five hundred and sixty six entries. So this year six eleven plus forty five plus eight percent. So nice little uptick there, mister Studd himself. Elie Elezra is still out there doing work. Joey Cooten is out They're doing work. I think that's it. You've all branched sockle off John Turner. I think John Turner bagged the chip Leader, one of the biggest acts coming into today. So yeah,

this one will play out tomorrow as well or today. I got it. I got it. I said on my solo pod that I have to do better with that. I should say today because when the people are listening, it States today on Saturday. Yeah. I need to get better at that. I keep messing it up. The Colossus kicked off. Three tournaments kicked off today Colossus Ladies Championship and ten thousand dollars Nolan mit Duce to seven

single draw. Don't we probably don't have any numbers on the Colossus because it's one of those multi website says there's eight hundred and thirty remaining a four thousand, six hundred and forty three and should they announced the prize school in there? I know they aren't doing updates right, but because the Colossus I think finished and they have the prize pool on the like WSV dot com website which is one point five to three million. Yeah, but you finished in the

money for the day now? Oh you mean the probably that's not that is not currently updated. There's a lot of stuff on this book, this thing. I'm going on the Bravo app, I'm going on Twitter. God help me, good luck. This is four thy six hundred and twenty entries. What did I just say? Not in the money? According to this? How many did the classes get last year on day one night? Let's look that up. You should have that in your thing right. No, I

just did total numbers. I didn't do like, you know, starting flights and that sort of thing. Oh you on day one A yeah, yeah, losses. Okay, give me how many starting flights? Oh they did it again last year to starting flights this year three? So I know why they're doing that. They're just trying to why not, who cares? Get more people in these fields? Yeah, I'm good with it. I'm just I'm just wondering if there's like a you know, a reason, it'll be

interesting to look at those I think what was it? Was it the the millionaire maker went from like ten thy four hundred to ten thousand, nine hundred didn't change if I'm adding a flight, if I'm wa sip, I'm adding a full flight, I would expect that number to be much larger, right, But it wasn't. So so that tells me that, you know, I would I would need to look at all of the monster stack, the

same thing you know you look at. I think monster sack was down slightly if I remember correctly, versus last year, because I think last year was the record, you know, slight dip. But what it would tell me if that trend does carry through is that you don't need three starting fights, you just need two. Yeah, so that that would allow you to condense some things in and then put more things into the schedule, more events,

that sort of thing. So so yeah, So last year CLASSUS day one out, as you mentioned, two fights, seven seven hundred and five entrants. So we're trending at a considerable negative right now day one because it's there's three flights. I'm no, I'm just saying wit behind pace with the data you just said with the Monster stack, how would only increase Last year the Colossus had fifteen and ninety four and I had eighty eight on day two,

day one base. Yeah, but you're saying they need to get fifty five two hundred and ninety eight on average. Sort tomorrow. The Monster Stack one, right, you said it was ten thousand last yet with two flights, and it's basically ten thousand to see with three flights. No, that was the Millionaire million Man. It went ten four to ten nine. It went up, the Monster Shack went down slightly. They added a fly for months to stack. Yeah, okay, I mean this could balance out, This

could easily go three thousand. Oh Monster Stack was up. I'm an idiot. I don't know why I thought, Oh that was sorry. I'm thinking of the seniors, the Super the Seniors Championship went down slightly. Monster Stack up Millionaire Maker up Millionaire Maker went ten thousand, four hundred and sixteen to ten thousand, nine hundred and thirty nine. That's a five percent increase. Monster Stack went eight thousand, three hundred and seventeen to eight thousand, seven

hundred and four four point six five percent increase. So you know you're looking at about a four to five percent increase. So then it just comes down to is a four to five percent increase worth worth an extra day? I guess you would really need to look at the following events and have those numbers

react well. Get So, what I would say is, again going back to the idea that I had, is that if you if you run three starting flights on the second two is when you need to have one k turbos or fifte turbos one day events and then that's how you like really make up

for it through rake revenue. Yeah, because you're going to get a thousand people in those fields, You're going to make a boatload more money, right, So so yeah, I guess that's a question of like, yeah, we have to look at the ROI of Sliba versus that gain in entrance. Yeah, it's a question or an answer that we probably can't figure out. Whatever. I'm just you know, just worth pointing out. But a lot of numbers and stats on this episode. I mean, yeah, I mean

there's not much going on. There's we had one two winners, one winner. I don't even remember two winners. Yeap. Moving on Ladies Championship last year twelve ninety five. This year registration colde closed ten. So they must have just posted it, right, hopefully, let's check. Yeah, prize Pool's post, don't tell me, don't tell me how many entries. I'm gonna guess twelve ninety five last year, I'll say thirteen forty seven, twelve forty five. If this is correct, Well, you gotta find the post.

You find the post because they post the actual number in there, although they did a post the other day and they didn't have the actual number in there, which is they just said the price pools this. Well, that doesn't help me. Is the are the payouts in there? Payouts are in there. That's why I was like, that has to be right. One hundred and seventy one thousand, seven hundred and thirty two dollars for first place. One hundred and eighty seven females will be paid ladies. What did you

say it was? What was the number? Twelve forty five total entrance? I mean, it's just that's like the same, Yeah, minus three percent, big deal and the thing with it. But now it's all it's all like plus or minus five percent. He's basically what it is. So if you are, I know people oftentimes wager on WS to be main event numbers, I would go. I would go within plus or five percent. Plus

or five percent is where I would go with it. So yeah, I mean, but listen, twelve forty five very healthy number for the ladies Championship. I have not heard or seen anything about any men playing. I had to walk over there because I have to go. We'll talk about a little later to the deuce on my retraction, But I didn't say any men. Did another walk to chop off a hot Cup podcasts Hot didn't say any men, So that's good. We would have probably had something on Twitter, right

I legit wanted like we have I'm shooting chat a message. I'm like I need to know in the Poker News style guide, like is rule number one like use bags big? Like is that is that rule number one? I have to ask because it's non stop bags big. Let's love it, I know, but it's like, can't we find different words bags huge, bags John Normus. I mean I'll start with bags huge, like and then we can go from there, you know, bags, monstros stack. Wait what

is this? Oh, that's the Colossus. I was very confused for a second, but yeah, I went I was on the you know how if you if you're on w SP dot Comedy dot West dropped down, I did so did I? I selected the Ladies, Yeah, and I didn't prescract that all the time, So I thought I was on the Ladies and it says Olga Aaron Ulcheva, bags big, and then it says spraggy in contention, and I was like, hold on day one, Yeah, but it's the Colossus. So I was just like, it's the classes from last last

year season. But I was like, wait, I thought, no men played hold on, what's that all the time. It's like, yeah, you don't click that extra button. Well anyway, four dred forty one as currently remaining in the Ladies event, Irene Carrey, Chip leader and a station nap second in chips. Now your magnus up there, Nancy Bermam up there, money, we up there running Cabrill twenty first and chips. So for what I event, the Ladies Championship, Yeah, I thought that was it

was really cool to see. I mean, you know, good structure for them. We're streaming this right, yes, we are, okay, good? I mean I hope so this is one of those ones that I put on the shortlist that we should stream every single year, So I would hope that we do. Okay, I mean, we'll check in with the Ladies further. We should definitely try and get some interviews from the Ladies events, probably tomorrow as things are going a little bit deeper. So we'll get on

that. The ten thousand dollars nolam that hold them deuced to seven single draw the Nick Schulman Invitational. The far As Back got the invitation, Billy Baxter invitation, Billy Baxter Invitational'd see Billy backstorm over there in a sweet checks it. Of course it was matching, of course, right I did. So, I mean the guys, the guys the best, I mean This is one of those ten K championship events where it has day two late registration, you know, a level of two into the day, so we won't know

the final number today. This says seventy. Oh, this says one to twenty seven. There's no rebuy in this one, right, No, there is in this one. There is. This one has one rebuy. Yeah, that's what I was thinking. I mean, because I think all the championship events should have a rebuy. Who cares, I'm not against it. I want to know who rebuy's and horse what like? Why not? Yeah? All ours? All ours have revisor right re entries? Yeah? Yeah?

Why not? Just just one? You know? I think they could do one for the championship events, and then I think all the the big bets should be two or three or unlimited. I don't care, Like, let these guys go off, yeah, go off. I want you know what I want? I want Ike ACKs in in two hundred and fifty K challenge, Ausie millions in for five fucking bolts. You know that that's what I want? Okay, So can we make that happen again? Please? Jen Harmon's in there, Darren Olias is in there. I saw Darren olias

On. Somebody posted yeah, zero point. What's he doing? Is he playing poker? He had some bed MGM obligations over the eye. How long is the betem Jim? There is a gam event this weekend. There's a mystery bounty. I think I have little events. I mean, okay, what's he doing there? Gonna go down bast tournament already? Niahowi Kihara is one of the big sacks, Robert Ms, Rocky Taylor, Parr. I just mentioned Jen Harmon, Jo Vieira, Mac Lance, Chris Hundley, Jeremy

Osmas. Summer of Osmus continues, Dan Jack, Sean deeb All crushing No, Daniel o'gonn. Yeah, but he said in his vlog I think he was coming just like yeah late. So it was probably one of those I'll go to bed, I'll see how I feel tomorrow. He's probably playing Beat Saber or whatever the heck that game is that he always plays. I'm gonna play it was that video with him playing it in the hallway, a real video? Yeah? Oh, why was he playing it in the hall It's

kind of like confused the new version of guitar. He do you ever play a time here. Yes I did, I was, I was okay, I was not anywhere near good, but okay, all right. So last year this event, the ten K Nolan Medusa seven, had one hundred and fifty four entries. I just said. They're at one twenty one per the Bravo op or sorry, one twenty seven per the Bravo app. So trending in the right direction, but this one will probably be up. You know why because it's a big bet, that's why. So yeah, we'll follow

along. I want to I want to discuss my uh my retraction right now. Oh okay, go ahead. So so I have to do with this event. Yeah, I went over there. A friend of the podcast, Pedro Brompman goes, I need a hat. I was like, sure, I'll come back, walk back here, grab the hat, walk back. Gave it to Pedro. He was sitting on a table with David ad b Baker and Jard Bless Think and ODB looks at me and he's like, you can't be can't be saying stuff about how badly I played a hand blah blah

blah blah blah, because Jared thinks I played it fine. And he's reverencing when we discussed these bus out hand in the fifty k PPC, how he had the A says Jack. You know he street bet potted, they got it all in. He lost, and I said a retraction. Let me, I'll get to it, okay, And I said, and I said, for someone as good as ODB, he shouldn't be stacking off in the big bet games now, says Blezznick says that I did it well, blah

blah blah. And he goes, do you really think I have an edge in the fifty k PPC with Ivy, you know, my ride and then whoever, all these guys are good at all these games. And I actually said that ODB and I go fair point, I go, would you like a retraction? He goes yes, and then he goes, actually, just get me a hat. And I don't want to reattraction, but I'm going to say it. It's a distraction. It's more of a correction. Sure, but like, isn't that what they's put in the new space. I

talked with ODB about this, you know a little bit. I think he said he had one hundred K, not three hundred K, like okay, Well, I was going off his tweet which didn't have much infor other than the fact that he got his money in with as ah Jack against what Beny means. Whatever the heck he had his four random cards. As far as I'm concerned, he had like jack six, seven, five or so. Something ridiculous, isn't How do you make it the best razz player in the

world. Didn We rename the Razz Championships to the invitations we did, so he's got that game covered. I mean, come on, he has to have a summage in these, in these I still stand my mind point he made the found table? Is he did? He finished third in this event a couple of years like the Rio. He for sure made the found table. I know that because I remember he was. I remember he was tearing up when he made the found table and we talked with him about it,

about making it. Yeah, because like that, this is the term and he wants to win above all others as Daniel only gotten you. Yeah does and did. But then I said, do we really trust Blessnick? Do we really trust Blessnik on this is? We don't want to ask anyone else. It was Blessnik just to go. I recall saying that, like I I said, I'm genuinely asking because like I I'm not a PLO player,

Like I'm genuinely asking what is the correct play? Like, yes, you have fucking aces, so like you can't control what your opponent does, Like if you potted and he repots it, you can't control and say, hey, opponent, just call like you know what I mean. But like so you just have to ultimately go with it. But I did. I don't know the whole action. I didn't know the stack depths whatever, So I was just kind of genuinely curious on what happened there, and and I don't

it's not that look at the end. I could be wrong with this, but I don't look at the PPC by saying like do you think I have an edge on all the players? I think it's more like, holistically, how does all your totality of your nine game play? How does that go against the field? So like you might be better in this game, but not as good in this game or better in this game, but not even that. You heard Daniel say stud was his like that's what he wanted to

crush. And then he also said, specifically against Bryce Jockey, I wanted to avoid all big bet games with him basically because he's a beast in those games, especially when it comes to pl and I just don't want to like play bloated pots with him in that spot, which is kind of coincidental that

he happened to win it in Plow. But but yeah, like you know you're gonna be and even Daniel like you know, he he said like he wanted to crush them in stud, but when Ivy was on his delect left, he was not crushing them in stud because he had to back off. He had to stay off the guest because Ivy was so good in stud and is on his left. So it's not that you're good or bad in everything, it's like, how does how does your average nine game play add up

and stack up versus the field? Because I'm sure Ivy has his deficiencies. You think Ivy is the best Nolan Holden player in the world for sure? No? Like for sure, No, he's very very good, yes, but like he's not Jason Kohon as far as I'm concerned, is he the best in the first Steven Shildwick or whoever? What is he the best in the field? You can make that argument. No, he's not I mean I have to look at the list. Yeah, I mean I'm trying to think of my head. I mean Brewers in the field, so no,

Jeremie Osmas is in the field. So no, I mean, you know, so like but like Kara cas, that's that's it's fine. It's fine. If Ivy like gives up a few percentage points in Nolan would hold him. If he gains twenty percentage points in stud like, it doesn't matter. You know that, that's how you you would look at it overall. Anyway, we're all over the place, and besides Phil Helm, we've played the

fifty k so he's the best Nolan holding player in the field. Damn right, that's right, because we go by bracelets and bracelets only on this podcast. All right, So moving on to a little fun stuff here. You put on social media today, right today? Yeah, this morning probably probably your most viral tweet ever, to be honest, I doubt you had a bigger one. Maybe Daniel mcgrowney's stats. So he's now number one on wysip's all time money list, which I think we already mentioned, but worth mentioning

again. I know you mentioned it to him in the interview. He moves ahead of Antonio es Fondiari, who barely plays poker anymore. Twenty two million, five thousand and nine hundred and eleven dollars for Daniel and Negrani just for that number of it. Huh, I have a different number. I took this off hend him mob doctor. Yeah, that's wrong. It's twenty two full seven four one four three. How does that make any sound? I

have the This is the argument I have with Keyan today. I asked stat guy for the production, but I have the I have a dedicated Yeah, but this is an issue with with me. You have stats, and you're very good, and you love tracking stats. You have whatever you have. Yeah, WSIP dot com has for sure something different than what you have. And then hend him up for sure has a third thing different than both you and WSB dot com. Can everyone get on this same page here, lines

we're trying to track stats. Mine's correct. I mean, I don't know if it is. It is. I promise you I have laid it over these I know you have, but I'm just saying like this, this this. Sometimes they count these circuit events, sometimes they don't. Sometimes there's there's some double up results on WSP of like double online results. You have to what I took my numbers off Hendon? This this is Hendon. Yeah right, I'm telling you I took I literally copied my number from Hendon like two

hours ago. I promise you. Why would I lie to you? I mean anyway, it's he's still leading. That's all the matters, whether it's by X dollars or why dollars. He is on top by I'm on WSB All time money list right the second twenty two million, five eleven dollars. It's right here, literally right here, and he's ahead of you know, you know sometimes these leaderboards didn't always update in the past as fast as some other stuff did. On Hendon, but because you read friends, he moved

ahead of s. FONDIIRII. I saw that he was ahead of s. Fondiri, So I was like, okay, I assume that this is updated, because he wouldn't be ahead of s Fondiari if it wasn't updated. So I figure out if it's a clean number because he has that three hundred and fifty k's WSB circuit score, but that shouldn't count anyway, that's move on anyway, It doesn't matter he's ahead of s Fondiari Sfondii's guy just under twenty one million. Is that correct? Do you have that? I die?

I don't know. I mean, I just I thave the Matt Rushville got it well. S Fondii according to headhimob dot com. I'll just put that in there that way. It's not my problem. But twenty one million, nine hundred and seventeen thousand for him, decent drop off, I guess a little bit to Helmuth eighteen million, eight thousand. Then you have Daniel Coleman seventeen million, four hundred and thirteen thousand, and then justin Bonamo just under

sixteen million. That one surprised me. Why that surprised you? Yeah, I wouldn't have if you gave me ten guesses at the top ten one drop I know. I'm just saying I wouldn't have put. I wouldn't have guessed him Daniel Legrand two hundred and fifty four. Do bissit be cash? Is? This is where you and Keegan had a back and forth on Twitter. Slash X shout out Keegan McCann, our lead bio guru. I guess that's what we want to call him. It's way better than like production assistant that

includes twenty three international and seventy eight online. Correct, yes, what I have Okay, twenty five podium finishes. I like this. I'm a guy who believes that we should get rid of the final table X very yeah, very confusing. Yeah, because you don't know if the final table is ten,

the final table is the last table. I don't. That's where I think you may you have convinced me now on the PGT although we've changed the rules where we just say it's only seven anyway, But yes, I believe that once you were down to the last table, that is the date the final table. Whether it's a night handed event and you have nine, that counts us as a final table. But I think in my stats I've kept a traditional for the system. That's all. Yeah, it's just it's just

it's silly, you know. That's why I just want to say, like, you know, I like having the top tens, top threes, you know, I like podium finishes. I think that that's certainly worth something. Twenty five podium finishes. Also, I think final tables is like even top tens and final tables they both have this problem is like in like the high rollers nowadays, what if there's forty players, it's not really that doesn't count.

Cast cares. Cast get what I'm saying, Who really cares if you have a final table if it's there's forty people, I was saying, So it's more like you should be like, you know, podium finishes, top five percent, top ten percent type that like, go by percentages. Yeah, anyway, twenty five podium finishes for Daniel Legrano at the wapace seven wins, ten seconds and eight thirds. Some of that is variants. You know, things can go your way, they can't go your way when you get

to the final three or heads up play. You know, so Daniel has gone so long without getting a WICIP bracelet until last night. But if some of those seconds or thirds break his way, then maybe he has more. If if they go the other way, you know, maybe he has fewer. You know, you never really know. Fifty two DISIP final tables, ninety six times he has finished among the final two tables in an event where he's cashed. The top five variants that he's cashed in no limit hold them

by far as expected. I mean, that's just the majority of events. One hundred and thirty times he's cash in and Nolan hold him event Potlam and Omaha twenty eight. I think Daniel's a very I think he's very good at PLO, very very good. I also think he's very underrated at PLO, Like I don't think people put him in there with like, you know, the bless necks of the world. But I think Daniel's a very underrated PLO

player. Limit hold him fourteen cashes, Horse eight cashes, Limit Omaha High Low, Stud and Stud High Low, and no limitduced to seven single draw He's got seven cashes in those events. He did mention in his log today or yesterday whatever, the most recent one after the fifty k win that he felt the most like out of it in regards to no limiteduce seven single draws. So I just want to real quickly got back to party and finishes.

You mentioned ten seconds. He's had five seconds, five run around finishes since he's lost price. So yeah, WSP Europe, so he's had this was his six chance heads up. I mean that was the thing with when Doug Polk put that stuff out there, like this guy can't win or however he phrased it. You know, he's lost as much money or having something, you know, something clickbaity. But you know, if you make it the second place in a poker tournament over and over and over again, you're still

winning money. Like there's no second place where you're losing money unless it's a two person tournament. Yes, so so yeah, you know he's Yes, Daniel didn't win a bracelet for ten years and eight months, but he was still winning money like when he got all those seconds places. You know, so it's kind of interesting. Fifth cash in PPC Poker Players Championship tied with Michael the Grinder, Mizeraki, and Matthew Ashton. Phil Ivy has the lead

there with six. Nicano now has ten seven figure scores. He's now one of ten players with seven or more bracelets. That's a very very rarefied air. And then you know, just you know, referencing the drought that Daniel had past tense because he won the bracelet. Let's go biggest current gaps four quote unquote active players with four more bracelets. I put in quotes active players, and I put two players on the list. Him added like thirty five

more. Him and I are going to argue about if someone is an active player and I see what you went with this active in quotes. For a reason, I only had on this list Jeff Madson and Mike Madison because when I walk around the DOUBSP every single day, you see that. I see Mike Madiso and I see Jeff Madison. I don't see these other guys. I don't see Scotty went. So I'm today playing slots, playing what slots? Yeah, exactly, the guy doesn't play poker anymore. Scotty's got five

bracelets. His last bracelet is two thousand and eight. So ch huh, which was you know who? Actually? Well, actually bracelet? Do you remember PPC? Not that he has four bracelets because he doesn't, but David Benjiman in two thousand and eight as well, he has one bracelet, one in two thousand and eight, obviously hasn't won a second one since then, but did final table at the PPC. So it just popped in my mind. Men, the Master has seven bracelets. His last one was in twenty

ten. He's like probably the closest to active, but that I wouldn't put in there only because he's been in several tournaments this year. Yeah, John Juwanda five bracelets, last one in twenty eleven. I would not consider John Juwanda active. Mike Madisow four bracelets, last one is in twenty and thirteen. I see him every day wheeling around and that's good or plan events,

so I would consider him active. Jeff Losandro for sure not active. Six bracelets, last one in twenty fourteen, but Tim put him on the list, so we got to go with it. Can I just say those six bracelets within eight years, that is third quickest to win six bracelets, behind Doyle Brunson four years, then with Johnny Moss seven years. I don't know, but that's my point. Without putting in a lot of he could have twelve bracelets, he could have thirteen bracelets, he could own triple triple crowns.

It's not if my memory serves me correctly, and I could be wrong, but I feel like when I came into the poker industry and you know, started working the WSPED two thousand and eight, so two and eight to like twenty fourteen, Let's say I remember seeing Losandro every day and everything like it didn't matter what it was, and then I feel like it slowly dwindled off, or like you would only see him in like the stud Yeah. So if if that is the case, then it's just it's just the volume

thing. I mean, there's only so many stud turns, you know. So yeah, Jeff Madsen has four races, last one in twenty fifteen. The way that this guy first showed up on the scene in what was it two thousand and six? Five something like that, seven, I don't even know. I think it was six. Look it up. You're staring into the screen, remember like that. You don't have it? Because I can pull literally pulled up on your computer. I can imagine he who goes to

Google dot com. What do you go to? You just type it in the top bar. I am no, but you were on the Google screen. No, I just clicked you tab I was. I was picturing his bat out two thousand and six. He went to racelets Yeah, and I was trying to remember the EEI and who was one of his other races? His last one wasn't two fifteen. It's a big gap between those. And then I mean he's someone with the way that he's been playing, like the volume, he plays a lot of stuff. You figure he's he might have

a few more by now. But yeah, whatever, twenty fifteen is the last one for Jeff Madson, and then you have Joe katta On here he's got four twenty eighteen was his last one. His are crazy because they're all no limit, they're all big field Nolan Holden tournaments. If that's what you're playing, hard to win bracelets just because vary answer is a giant bitch. I'm trying to think of any more cool stats we have. I don't really have any, but we don't no random players today. Why did I say

random? I swear I think I did. Oh you know how I saw not that random? I saw Elkie. You know I saw the other day that I don't know, he was random to me. Just see him at the doubs spe because I feel like I haven't seen him at the doubsp as a while. Chow Jang, Oh, yeah, he's wandering around. Was he looking for it? Was then today like the Super Seniors was happening, so maybe he was playing that. I don't know, but he was just

wandering around. That was kind of my random player. I think that's pretty random. I think that qualifies. I mean, I don't know what the qualification is, but sure I'll take it. I will take it all right, that's gonna do it for us. Oh sorry, what's happening tomorrow? Well, first of all, we have day one B of the classes. Are you going to be getting in that? Yes? Or not? Maybe? Maybe not likely? Yes? Okay, we have the start of the twenty five k p loo Hi Rolla. That's gonna be a big one.

And unfortunately that's it only one event signing tomorrow and plus one bee of a. I mean, yeah, you figure the Colossus is going to be a madhouse in here and Saturday flight of the Colossus mats should be huge. I think Antonio photographer might be playing too good. He's gonna fold ices praise, so you should be fine. Do both my bullets count because he's not firing too for sure? No, I think the first bullet. How reckless is your first bullet gonna be? I guess mine? Yeah, I mean it's

not like super reckless. It's probably more reckless than Antonio. Yes, fading ices praise. Yeah, I mean it's not. You know, I'm gonna play it like normal, so I could be out in the first hand. I could be you know, I could take it to the cash. I mean I think I have cashed in the classes twice. No, once I got cash in the mini main event twice. I think I haven't played the classes. I think the classes might be my first ever WSP cash. Oh

what is my first? It's gonna be a fifteen hundred No it mine's the mini main event. That's your first ws WE cash YEP, first off cash and the mini main events. First WSP cash was the one king I live and hold them WSP twenty twelve. They don't like have those anymore. No, they were my favorite. They just don't have like they don't have like Michael Gaffie on that, do they have regular? Do they have a regular fifteen hundred? Nol them and hold them like? That's not monster stack million

like you know what I mean? They don't because you would be on the bubble like at night, you would probably burst the money like a level into day two. Everything now is it's either it's dip down to be a deep sack like a six hundred or an eight hundreds deep stack, right, or it's it has some gimmick towards it not a bad way, but it just has a gimmick mystery millions, right, Yeah, what else? You have

a one k and a fifteen hundred super Turbo Bounty. Yeah, but you know they're not They're not those old three or four day one ks or fifteen hundreds. They're just not. Can I read the monster stack? You have the Millionaire Maker, you have the Mini main Event, you have the Closer, you know all that sort of stuff. I need to rate this random result. I just I think they have a couple. I think they have like a fifth. They have a fifteen hundred freeze out for sure. I

know they have that. They had it already. Yes, so I mean that's the closest fifte hind shootout too, right, Yeah, but I'm just saying like straight, like they used to have every weekend. Was it like a fifteen hundred or one k? What is this event that I just found on my head of mom January twenty eleven, A Crowned Casino, Melbourne, ten dollars not a little bit hold on Monday, Mayhem, forty two entries, one hundred and ninety five revins prize, fool, nineteen hundred dollars.

I won the event for six hundred and sixty three dollars ten dollars rebuy. Can we bring some of this stuff back a ten dollars. This sounds awesome, sounds like a giant waste of time for us live, so it's fantastic. I won't about the rake now you how do you even make money? I don't know as an operator I was twenty. I'm just saying to run the event. How do you make any money on a ten dollars buying? I don't think they can. If you rake half the buy in, how

are you gonna make any money? You're gonna rake two dollars? Maybe he's enough back then? No, all right, that's gonna do it for us. My name is Donny Peters. His name is Tim Duckworth, and we will talk to you guys on the next episode. Get those reviews in because you only got one day left. Let's go say yeah, Jenny,

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