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p run good John Racer also winning his second of US pre Prais. He went in a ten k womit hold Them championship for over three hundred dolls and he wins the fount as draws stack lut of his way up put the pressure on. He was also in a pretty crazy three hand battles and fellow pros Marco Johnson finish in the chat Eastlage just finished the second which whn actually finished fourth thro Chad and in the fining of he Deals Choice last year, so
a little bit of avenginging that finish. But yeah, John Racer second ws P bracelet, he'd mana stue a reasoninglaying pig a teams games series E to the second in the four series when Trip said he won the trip start earlier. This year, I got to also speak to John post these little victory and I'm gonna play that four year John my sengratulations second wsp P brast I we asked for a punt prescsup, but I feel like quite a sense of relief getting victory of jap Just stine, Yeah, wots mean Chad of want
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like the area's beautiful. It's a nice like seven to ten days again wing get play like ten days straight n or done and end up, you know I five question from me ifpd frost one because oft alway and usam he came wrout. But I thinks to change up a positive you know, changing why you might batt chap you plant, I mean because it's own measons I was, he said Onney result he might NASA's at eighteen, I mean muhamas Ruba
days and stuf that and roll forward boys. And when he went over and started yelling on my rail and cheering me owl and give me positive vibes and pumping me up like I love that stuff like early into sports and get pumped and play offs and stuff like that, and just be able to get hold up by the boat taib like that. It really made me feel good too, having a close friendly like really had a backie one and getting only the
guy skin possibly and opening up at the same time. I told him several times after I want that, I just about them in and it was like it'll changed with eating nil. That'neted to feel so good in anything on a sure above, then I need two buck each other up. Next. Brent Hart wins the five K nolanm hold Hi Massive Field. He was six hundred and sixty one thousand dollars Brandefeeddaiyo chairead up a little bit of back forth, the bewin and the jury. Brent got it done in the Also at this
fine table was Alexander Queen Gouty Bed and Taylor Black. If you missed this spot, you can watch it on pubgo dost com. You check out the replay the days on there right now. But Brent heard not the usual kind of player you see on approadcast. He's good on orthodox, I think, is the first way to put it. A lot of emotion. Love that victory Barry Swaggy winnis platter. He posted a yeah he took down his sport
present in the five K and nobleman to hold him. That was all you know towdayso before I Little irre issued with Donny Peter's Little Also it before I out you know app issue that I had in an honestly I just sat update but today M last night and really want to go to trouble shooting a podcast up. So he woe darea. We miss one. Guys were apologized, but hen of those keeping the scor at home, I'm twel from twelve workouts.
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the property frock hours. I went over to Arria and want to check out the bat On Gym Championship. It was. It was absolute patout there uh court with a friend we you know, quitted for a few hours. And if I kape Yere wins three hand ofatle a three hand battles Bien Mike Roker, Tyler, Staffan and Breck I'm trying to get this right, Breck Shirtazaca, last fresh myself a scud of a gay yep, Breck Scatson. Now you're got here in the labeodat a later Why this is you know, important
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two million, so three massive scores. He's also I knows he doesn't. It's of pfefutbook whoever some manys of guys the flag. He's a hunt four boys, one girl, gasz saingvisn talk a little about but we talked about's wif ckie on the rail. We talked about you know, winning hist and what is a bracelet compared to the rist of this manager you're comparing to a WPT title of that magato. So uh and go. I'm play an interview with Breck and now for you trek gradulations. First off, respeers before games,
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anything like that. As for money, uh, thisis one sad out gives the bracelet and it's always verst start tapuldrams want to brast and you're scaring. This one sends out forevers. You know a clime of five pointew million winnings to you none woul time fie you out and your fame mass one point he's winning cashis woe com of ors. These complim the right. A little support of them is a big thing. I've cut back towards at as world poet think of us stars at rout for me potra ris and did have a great
year. So it's it's nice to come back as you're and have what ikning issning will be successful nudre. But but yeah, the after every sting out on racelet two years ago and getting getting second didiction there, it's just the bracelet once I got to the final table ones the bras, that's notational important. The money at that work as as a bamy Man father, your paradet a husband, Winny want preto million? Does that make you want to keep
playing more? Whew? You can think abiad really upstatmily know what I don't my busy definitely only one. It's just you getting interested to keep playing if you feel success and you just you just want to continto wat of word by rights some friends how you wipe and jackaplioning like you know, winning this perce in front of that. The wife princess's great so wh wh a wt who was in the portoal studio in twenty twenty one when they wouln't allow anything umbers
to watch her anything, so she wasn't gonna get it with me. So it's it's amazing to go back to rail and sweat hands it with her and just thirt through a couple of holes. Stalls were got in decently, but you'd like cart heaved a lot few times and good sbamtn WHENN findally out it's going to Septiman Rands, it's amazing. Shouldn't call Jackie k out yet, joins thiss indewy quick, just as record was like winning, you find your
friend, I'm want to know from you. So's I see him winning and watch him sits and watch the wide emotional just then realize that I can say, I'm just a proudest man Ia was the bad watch the red one the person so I wasn't at that CRY's down here And when it was down to three, what's it like having your husband has you know, put umber by pot times Katy felt gonna be run with the cause when he's yet winning, gaysus sam mean thingcause he's more freetentially so he spends street time with the ways
they get spis traces. He's then he's been everyday we're get one the resil stuff. Yeah, and he's just spends all three time because find a question from eight five kids, I believe one bracelet who's aalence who wife? Now every times the girl's exist draw yeah, so jeonn tell them Monday, Imus say he's gonna be the PRIs and I guess then one forere of the boys and why Jackie and gone, yeah, guys they got calling out, don't pets to open the interviews? Was any said the interview street did wins a
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we got to would crush some of these pronunciations. Very gone. Aaron Cummings wins the fifteen hundred and two seven triple Drop Rose the Hues First Bristlet. He picked up one hundred and forty six thousand dollars for that win at the part Table Deal of the Year previous Deal of the Year at our confiscial four place thirty five hundred champion and a fifteen time circuit winner. Show On You
finished in fifth place. Trinder the part Tanakhan he had a nice deep run in thirtieth place and fifteenthial future All of Famer maybe Mammy Johnson a nineteen place hose duce I played out on their secretary table during the twenty five k to Night fifteen hundred dollars nsan ondem shot the event. I was going to fire yesterday until Donnia Colden sick night to scarewa gins some interviews, but massive, massiveld this year with a dupe to two fifty hundred and thirty four plays.
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be a double shoot. Nyre day Na spack to a normal tournament. Every sect believes an eight big points. You'll be able to watch the shootout on the Pokago YouTube channel and pog Go supposedly don't pete as a Rinki r on the Colbert. But like I said, I don't done the lie. I might be back in the booth with Renkormnet done. Anything will do. But
some of the gout players shoot advanced. Two day three, Danny Sepio, we got Daniel Strelitz, we got kiriyakisuab Doublas WTE five hundred, Daimnupla, Darius Samuel w s B Brazil and Ken the streak of multi of the player winning multiple brailest in the Candy year who it happened twelve days intoward Zerre's We're Life. We're Joining Life with Darris. Vita Desaveskiez obviously the brother of Yuri
also believe he may an online bracelet. Sean Rakoziti Australian has also progressed it two day three, and I don't forget Jeremy Asmus rounding out that sixteen player field coming back on Sunday tor PM. We are predicting the stream is going to start about seven pm specific time Kazeipubi five or give him key at Fur a half hours to get down to basically nine seven of nine players and we will turn the cameras on sts Stout. I'm gonna warder that bracelet tomorrow or
Koby also going to a ward race it. In the ten k PLO eight Championship. It's about ten minutes left in that for the day. We have changed fifteen players left, so it get pretty close. We mentioned vitout the VSKI will r reear Brother, he's in the mix, he's got mis space, agn averagehipsacks. A lot of players still incontentions of we just les Allix Foxson in sixteenth, but Jean Troyer Johnson commenre's another swift for the double bracelet.
Shawn Witnessling, Victim bl Philip Jing, Jouson Mauer, Bradley, Reuben Tyler Brown, Louis Pella or Jacobskin and Chip Lead as them right now Rubbitt Tanita and they're playing FO five hundred day Ka beautiful. So that's the ten k PLO eight update. And now you know Baberasa, I say three king one hold on won't go by thats on Gladiators of poker. We had one
c to day, says twoun. The number even rin up yer for a day one thirty seven hundred ninety too entrants last year thirty ne hundred forty wotle Yeah, little bit of a gootic Day one B forty three hundred seventeen chess lat year forty five seventy one. By the way, chip pointer I won
be Gannheimer three point eight million day one sea's une fifth number. But we have fifty six eighty four or fiftyeve hundred last year six thousand, one hundred ercent, a definite decrease across all three flights at twenty nston toown he's a top fifteen largest pocotmis in history. I goole and I have it up yere one day last year eighties four hundred and sixty seven. So to have any chance up topping the massive twenty three thousand player tri field in twenty twenty three,
we em in the need basically ten thousand entrances. So we gonna have to see what fifty percent of didickhd't things gonna happen? Think we're more likely to get fifty yet lived down and gets's score seventi hundred pet seven five hundred were sill a to take over the twenty thousand entrant mark, and that will
put us at we know anywhere between. I would say, yeah, I think we kind The fifth largest popor porliaments in history was the twenty twine twodir yasip hause on me twenty thousand and eight entrance, So I think we can top that with the thady is of Poor twenty twenty four s or yeh fifth point hows Warming twenty twenty two. We'll come for you. Yeah, we'll have more an update on that tomorrow. I guess we're gonna look forward to
what is happening on Sunday. Absolutely all the final tables and stuff that I have mentioned, but we're gonna have obviously day one daylad days of poker. I could be tended. I could bet tended to jump in three hundred n'e by w then standing in some lines while these people I don't know that lot the ppens of Donne's Dwe's in your handball, maybe the the Winns interview up. I'm much jump in. But we also have the twenty five k no
one to hold them hard. A E. Max Well from who going from heads up to six Marx to eight backs now, so that's gonna be another massive fiel. I'm assuming you know what. We're two seven year in the h high role. There's no reason why we can't get you know, two hundred seventy three hundred peys in SIS twenty five K if you have to an event FI fifteen hundred big other shud be fin one. We'll see how that one plays out. But that's yeah, that is what is on deck for
Sunday. You know, no random player of the day done. Then if you're there, don't really have a family point. We obviously touched on the jury board. Donny Peters out INDEFINITELYA yeah. Otherwise it's quick pastage nine fete backup tushnyas the podcast, yess't do any other to explain you know what happen,
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