Podcasting 2.0 for January 24, 2025, episode 208, The Booby Trap. Hello, everybody, once again. Thank God it's Friday. You know why? Because the weekend's here. No, because it's time for the official board meeting of Podcasting 2.0. This is where everything goes down. You want to know why podcasting is great, why it was already good, and why it will be even better? It's all happening here. We are the only boardroom that plays music instead of taking a bathroom break.
I am Adam Curry, here in the heart of the Texas Hill Country and in Alabama, the man who decompresses your files on the fly. Say hello to my friend on the other end, the one, the only, Mr. Dave Jones. And two. And what? And two. And two. I just tooted. Oh, you tooted. Oh, you tooted. Yeah. I mean, I mean, right under the wire. Of course. You are the pod sage. You have all those capabilities. You are, in fact, a superman. You literally intro'd me as I was hitting the toot button. So, we're good.
Ah, good. I, um, it's been a crazy day today. As we speak, for the first time ever, I have a brisket on the smoker. Oh, you got a smoker? Well, I've had the Pit Boss. I got it for my birthday. Oh, I've got a Pit Boss as well. Oh, you do? Oh, you do? Yes, yes, yes, yes. The Pit Boss is indeed quite boss. It's very boss. But I've never done, I've never smoked anything. I've done, you know, I've done steaks and, you know, burgers and stuff like. Did you have the sear plate? I don't, no, I want it.
That's the one thing I don't have. And it's on my smoker lust list. It's one of the things that I want. Can you retrofit that on your Pit Boss? Yeah, I think so. Yeah, I think so. It's just the plate. Just change the plates out. Just the cast iron plate, right? Yeah. So, I started this morning, warmed it up to 225 at a quarter to nine. And nine, we have a 10 pound brisket. Went right on. I'm worried about that. I'm like, oh my gosh. Was that like a 12 hour smoke, roughly?
It should be about 10, 11. And well, they said these would be three to five hours to get it up to 160 internal temperature. So, got the probe. Got the probe in there. Got the probe. Yeah, yeah. This is where I need the Bluetooth probe accessory, which I don't have. The Wi-Fi, yeah, Wi-Fi accessible. Yeah, the Wi-Fi accessory. Yeah, so I don't have that. So, I had to go out. And they said between three to five hours to get it up to 160. So, right at noon, it was at 160.
So, then I had to wrap it in butcher paper, which I'd never even, I didn't even know what that was. Butcher paper. Yes, the barbecue, the heavy orange. Yeah, exactly. Rust colored. Yes, that's it. That's it. So, I got that, wrapped it all up. And then it has to go in for another, they say two to three hours to get to 190. So, I turned it down to 200. So, that during the board meeting, I wouldn't have to go check my meat.
Well, you've got, you've got the, you've got, oh wait, Sam says the, did you? Oh, no, no, I'm a bad boy. I'm sorry. I tweeted and tweeted. I know. I'm sucking. Well, I'm, what can I tell you? I'm sorry. Hold on a second. What did I do wrong here? Let's see. I'm going to reply to Sam and say pod ping in progress. Hold on a second. Pod ping in progress. I did set it all up, but yes, you're right. I was so excited. I'm so excited. I'm so excited. And when I get excited, I forget important things.
You don't have to check your, but you don't have to check your meat if you have the, if you, if you're probing it. Well, but I have to, I have to check the temperature. This is what I'm saying. If I had the wifi thing, I could sit here and know if it was okay. And then, you know, I could be, oh, but now it's like I turned it. So, it can't get hotter than 200 obviously. So hopefully it'll be, I've, I think I've timed it.
So when, right, when we're done with the board meeting, it should be about one 90. Uh, so if you see that, I don't have the wifi thing. I have to go handle my mate in order to probe it. But you know, if you can, that's, that's kind of a, no, the probe is in, I have a built in a probe thermometer. Yeah. See, I, oh, you're using the one that's built into the, uh, you're not using the, you're not using the, the, what do they call it? The handheld probe? No, I don't know.
Yeah. No, no, no. See, I use, I used, I do use that one sometimes, but I. I'm not a fan of it. Only if you have a really thick cut. Cause otherwise, you know, if it's too close to the plate, it'll be like, it's 500 degrees. Like, no, I don't think so. I usually wait until the meat is hot to put the probe in. Cause if you get it, when it's cold, it's just too hard to probe. You know, we are probers.
Yeah. You got to get, cause it's when you, if you wait until it's hot, then it's kind of wet and juicy and you can just stick to the probe goes in so easy. That's what she said. I'm sorry. I'm sorry, Jesus. Forgive me. Forgive me. This is the brisket that I've done one brisket and, and it turned out really good. You know, what is to no lie. The best cut of meat on the smoker though, is the plate ribs, the dino ribs. Ooh. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's basically a brisket with ribs, with ribs in it.
And if you cook it just like a brisket, the ribs just, I mean, you can just pull them out with your hand. They just fall out and you've got this, it's basically the fatty part of the brisket, but all the way through, like, it's just like, it is so good. How long does that take? How long does that take to do? Oh, it's not, not nearly as long as a brisket. Cause I think the bone helps cook it faster. Cause it's like, I want to say like six hours, seven hours.
This is going to wind up being eight or nine hours. Anyway, we'll, we'll see how it turns out. You know, there was a time in early no agenda days when, I don't know if you remember this, I don't know how long you were listening, but Dvorak would literally stop the show because he had to go outside to baste his meat. I don't remember him ever doing that. No, it was, it was much hilarity ensued from Dvorak basting his meat.
Well, the, the, um, the best, so the pit boss, I almost spent like the pit boss is the best bang for the buck because there's many more expensive smokers like the, the one with the horns, the rec tech and all that. There's, there's much more expensive smokers, but the, the pit boss is, has got a feature that the other ones don't have, which you can, it's got the lever thing where you can expose the flame. Yes. That's the sear plate. Yeah. You can reverse. Oh, that's what you mean by sear plate.
Yeah. What did you think of that? Yeah. I thought you meant the sear plate. That's like a big cast iron griddle looking. Oh no, no. I think they actually call it the sear plate. You open it up and then the flames right underneath it. Yeah. I've got that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's cool. Reverse. You can reverse sear steaks with it. Oh yeah. That is that. Do you do the reverse? Oh yeah. Low and slow and then yeah. And then nuke it. Oh yeah, baby. Hey, we're, it's a meat show.
Meat talk here on the board. You know what? I, since we're, we're, wait, we're already out of control. Do you mind if I break format completely? Cause I'm excited. It's already broken. There is no format. I am so excited. And please get your, your streaming podcast apps ready. Curio caster, you can do it on the split kit. You can do it in fountain. If you got pod verse, get it ready because we have a conversion taking place. We have converted Henry invisible. Now, Henry invisible.
Did you see Henry invisible on booster, booster Graham ball live from Antones? No, I did not. This guy is a one man band and he's about five feet four tall. He has a bucket hat, a furry bucket hat on. Oh, that guy. Oh yeah. That guy. And, and he's just an amazing guy. And I remember when, cause he had, he didn't have any songs value for value, but we invited him anyway.
And he got a really good experience because people were just boosting and, and zapping and, you know, he got, I don't know, six, $700, you know, for his set, which is much more than he'd make. You know, if you make anything at all at a set these days, you might get a little bit, but, uh, and he, I remember he said, Adam, this is so, and his dad was his roadie, you know, and his dad is really cool. And they're, and they're big believers. And, you know, so we were just having a good old time.
He's like, you know, this really makes a difference. What you guys are doing is so cool. I'm so excited. And so now he has not one, but two songs that has released value for value. It's short. It's Take away the visual and just listen to what he's doing. He plays all the instruments himself. He's he has Prince like vibes and I just want to play it right off. I'm so excited. Henry invisible. Do it good on podcasting. Because I sing you this message. Here we are.
So things in the world all that way. Why there's so much magic in this world And you can tell that every day, in many ways There's you and me, and we can be Everything we want to be Well, how do we do it?
Got to do what you can, cause you should Do it good Got to do what you can, cause you should Do it good Got to do what you can, cause you should Do it good Got to do what you can, cause you should Got to do what you can, cause you should So I'm walking the dog last night, and I'm listening to This Week in Bitcoin, and Chris plays this at the end of the show, and I'm just dancing down the driveway. I'm like, I love this! This is my jam right there. I love that kind of music.
He's like the funk version of the guy that I never can remember his name who does the punk set with just him and his guitar and a bass drum and a snare drum that are both foot-activated. Do you know the guy I'm talking about? Oh, yeah. He performed in Nashville. That guy, you mean? I can't ever remember his name. It's something that's hard for me. Rock and roll. Yeah, rock and roll, break heart. Yeah, there you go. Rock and roll, break heart. Yeah, exactly. It was a great show.
And I just heard this song. I'm like, I like this. It's just... I'm a funky kind of guy. That's good. I'm a funky kind of guy. I'm just glad you played a song on the show again. I know. It's been like a month. Well, even longer, maybe. But, you know, ever since we went to this shortened time, which means we have to kind of hustle. But this is only three minutes. I'm like, oh, we can spare three minutes, three minutes. And thanks for not boosting everybody. Booshbags. Nobody boosted.
Nobody boosted. Boost that man. Go back, rewind. Boost that man. It's good. They're invisible boosts. They're invisible boosts. So a couple things. We need to talk about Podping D. Need to talk about that because it's been on the list for as long as we haven't played songs. But I would like to reiterate our call out once again, and I have another one, for Apple and any other podcast app.
We have many of them already that recognize the the lit tag Holy moly that you have no idea what you're missing out on Apple has such an opportunity.
It's become even more clear this week Every single radio and young be talking at NRB every single radio station is talking about their stream They want to turn off these expensive transmitters They're converting their people and you can Apple you can be the directory for all radio stations in your podcast app It's such an obvious thing to do and I'm sure they're their player already handles it, right? It should I mean, it's the audio engine this underlying it does.
Yeah, there's no difference there It just seems like it's a no-brainer. Thank you. Sam Sethi 35 18 This came up in a talk in some of the talks that we've had On the Godcaster stuff is Whether HLS audio Is how supported HLS? Oh, yeah, we actually ran into an HLS server in the wild and threw us for a loop Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's like an m3. It's like with here's our audio stream.
It's like an m3 u8 Wait, what a playlist What is this because like 99% of the wild is Icecast or whatever shoutcast and then you see one of those and I was like, oh, I don't know I don't know how we're gonna support that. I mean so I'm assuming that My current understanding is at least in the browser.
So this is video for like browser based podcast apps that HLS audio Meaning just a playlist of audio chunks It's gonna be I think that's supported in Safari by the app by the native audio tag Because some people like the audio tag in the video tag in HTML are My understanding is under the covers in the HTML world itself in the browser That the audio tag and the video tag are basically the same thing I Think they're identical under the hood except the video
tag Excuse me, the audio tag just doesn't show the video portion But I think there's so if one supports something than the other one should as well So I think you I think the audio tag is the audio HLS is supported on Apple on Safari webkit browsers And my understanding is it may be supported on Android devices as well. I think it's the desktop. That's the hitch. Oh Really? That's interesting Why would that be a problem? Why would that be a problem?
They just don't have it in there You know, I don't I don't really I don't know what an odd sure odd company sometimes but you know, but but It hasn't audio and have an audio and video codecs always been this way they've always been mired in like all kinds of Crap DRM all kinds of nonsense. Yeah, and on my browser is always saying well in order to view this video you have to allow this DRM stuff to come into your I like no, I won't just won't watch it. I'm good No, thank you.
PP says curio caster supports it. I think it's because he's using I think it's video JS maybe Stephen B can correct me if I'm wrong. I think it's video. There's a there's plenty of plugins. It'll it'll help you do it Like yeah, like video JS, but I just mean like natively So I don't Apple probably has to own and have developed whatever they put in there. That's probably one of their main Requirements. Oh if we didn't develop it, we can't use it.
Oh Stephen says HLS dot JS most of those plugins operate by those JavaScript plugins and the browser page Operate just by hooking the tat hooking the video or audio tag and then just Like, you know take taking over the decoding of of the thing and then provide, you know, providing the audio back to it So I don't you know, I don't I'm I agree I mean pocket like as far as live tag goes pocket casts. You're an obvious one.
Yep They should be supporting this I mean podcast addict out-of-the-box because they have they've always had radio stuff in there Their player not only will do it all it also reads the metadata in the stream, which is even more beautiful So it pulls up an image and changes when there's a new if it's if it's a music track it changes with all the metadata This is this episode if we have to if we had to type title it, okay I have my pen It would be Dave cries for
help Done all right Dave cries on blue cry for help And because because I have many cries for help, oh baby what's going on talk to me The doctor is in Can you show me on the doll where the HLS hurt you Yeah, so one of the cries for help would be Would be this Would be the live I see where to us where I start. Where do you start pot? Okay, so pot you brought up pod ping D Pod ping in general pot is I'm talking about pod ping cloud.
Yeah I Need some help with that with it pod so Alex and Archie have both offered recently and in the past to Help me with you know just some sysadmin DevOps type stuff and and I Appreciate both of them doing that I'm gonna have to take them up on it Because one of the one of the issues so live depends on pod ping in to some extent right You can do it without pod ping So if you have there's a start time in the live tag and an end time in the live tag But you could you know, if
you're an app and you don't want any external dependencies you could just say okay start time is this Let's okay. This is a good exercise. Let's do let's do this. Let's say in Let's let's dream up an app. This is Adams podcast app. I like it already. It's a winner and You are going you want to support live? items But you don't want any third-party dependencies because you're gonna all you're gonna run on device purely You're not gonna you're not gonna try to check pod ping.
You're not gonna do anything. You just want to exist purely on device, okay? You're gonna read the RSS feeds and you're gonna see that there's a live item in this feed Um Since you have no pod ping What you do is so that's out. So you're gonna have to depend on the feed refreshing and showing is it equals live? Well, yeah. Well the start the start time Okay here you see this is what I'm trying to get to is What heuristics do you construct in order to make sure that you a?
tune in on time and B don't miss any of it Well, I personally tend to stay away from any and all heuristics in my life. I find them very unhelpful Agreed agrees Okay, well that there's two different things there and some apps do this quite well where they say hey, this is coming up live some will show it to me as Live next and some won't you it show it to me at all only when it's actually live. What are we drinking? Oh This is a LaCroix limoncello. Nice limoncello with alcohol.
Nice. No, this is no, this is a virgin yeah, a Mocktail It's a so if you if you took that idea and said, okay, I'm going to Take a cue that this thing is gonna start At this particular time that's defined in the live item start time attribute You could say okay.
Well Let's go ahead and notify the user like what you said, maybe five minutes before the start time is listed and then But at any time we can go ahead and just like put something in the interfacing this is this is an upcoming Livestream You can Like a place almost like a placeholder like coming soon.
Mm-hmm, and then you could tap on it To go ahead and attempt to tune in to the live stream ahead of time Just you know because a lot of times there's pre-show and Like like with this, you know with our with our thing We don't exactly the start time maybe 1230, but we some we you know You get this ball rolling, you know, 15 20 minutes ahead of time So you could you really there could be like coming up maybe half an hour before there's like this this placeholder item
Episode and you could tap in early Yeah, and then it doesn't really even though there's an in time defined attribute defined in the live item You don't necessarily have to Cut it at that point.
You probably probably shouldn't know You should say You know, you should just basically do what we do in the index Which is 24 hours after the start time we consider it done We consider it over as long as the end time is some point in the past right, so then Then you're you're you basically allow the the listener to just continue listening as long as they want when does the crying start? I already did that. Okay. I got it out of my system.
I did it on the way home for lunch So You know, that's so that's the that's That's one thing that you could you could do if you're gonna support live items and not depend on pod ping so that would because and the reason I'm talking about this is because I feel like that is going to be a Hindrance for some people Now we know that pod ping is dependable and right, you know pretty much rock-steady Yeah, nothing.
Nothing's absolute absolute belongs to God, but sure, you know on this earth You know, there's basically cockroaches Velveeta cheese and pod ping those things remain. Yes, that's a Cockroaches specifically, but yes, the cheese is up there And so but there are some people like Apple and I'm a hundred percent sure that they would be this way like Pod ping, you know what? I mean?
Yeah, but we don't want to depend on some some rando You know internet messaging bus right that we don't that we don't control But that's okay because they could do it that other way, right? I mean they they can still support the live item and And get that thing done. I feel like that's a dependable enough Yeah, you yeah, I think so I mean I think they should consider pod ping anyway I do too. I mean just to say pod ping.
Uh, I mean Think of think of the the whales and all the other things you're killing with your global warming with polling all these feeds and so the pot So the cry for help on the pod ping front is I need some I need some dev ops help on the pod ping cloud stuff Popping cloud is a sim. It's such a simple thing to run actually It's five servers There's three in the United States.
There's an east of West Central and a West there's two There's two outside the US there's one in Australia one in Europe and Then they're all like $5 a month Linode's right there.
Just there's nothing to them the problem I'm having is And I've talked about this on the podcast index dot social is like I Don't I need somebody to get in there and just set this Set this thing up to where the docker logs don't keep eating up all the disk space I've tried to fix this and I don't know what I'm doing wrong. I must just be missing something I've followed the documentation of the docker documentation It does their their log Trunk their log rotation algorithm.
That's supposed to keep the logs no bigger than a certain size.
It just doesn't work For and I don't know what I'm doing wrong so like I You know Alex offered to help or and I'm you know I may ping him and say you know and give him credentials to get in and just see what I'm doing wrong and fix it Yeah, if he can't, you know, if it's not too much trouble on his part But in order for pod ping You know pot popping has to for the best live experience depends on pod ping and So, you know you can do it another way We just outlined how you can
but the best the best experience to get the most immediate, you know ping is To use pod ping and so that that that system has to remain Like rock steady and to do that. I'm just sort of like pulling my hair out with this docker thing That was a long way to go Well Bottom line. I think it's it's a great feature.
I'm seeing Just a whole bunch of radio stations who have podcasts Who will love having a lit tag in their podcast feed We already know they do Because we have about 45 of them who do it without them really understanding it, but we do it for them and Then having their podcasts and everybody can use their favorite podcast app They're you know, they're also trying to set up their own podcast or their own apps And they really don't have a lot of podcast capability
in there But the lit tag really opens up new capabilities and I Just think it'd be great to have Apple on board and there's another if we can move to a new topic wait The I have more cross for help. Okay, I can know maybe I can maybe I can get it Let me throw in my other Live stream related cry for help.
Okay is what you mentioned earlier the live stream metadata Yes we need you know, I need a way to To get the metadata from shoutcast streams In the browser and And I cannot I Can't figure out how to do this The documentation is sort of like all over the place I've tried every approach I can find mentioned anywhere and none of them seem to work Isn't there isn't a this is a separate player that does this or do you have to do you have to do this as a? Separate stream that comes from the server.
I'm I don't know much about it.
So just asking In it initially what I thought it was was I thought it was id3 data embedded in the shoutcast stream chunks And if that's the case If That's the case then I don't think I'd be able to decode it without writing a custom audio web web audio engine Okay, cotton gin says there's a JSON XML endpoint for ice cast that features metadata I See, I saw that I saw that documented as well But it seems to indicate that the That where that you find where that end point lives By
looking at the response headers of the HTTP request to get the stream And I can't that does not seem to be reliable. I don't think Not everybody does it that way not everybody does it that way there's different like think Thinking about like looking at your stream for hello Fred for instance. Yeah Because this is all pertinent, you know, this is a godcaster related issue that I'm running in from a development standpoint, but this is also For you know for live to doing live in general.
Yeah, you want to have that where you got to have that? And so with the like broadly speaking this needs to be for app developers of all stripes The hello Fred live stream you're losing live 365 Yeah, and I couldn't and maybe I'm blind but I don't see anywhere where it's where the Metadata endpoint is defined. I Just don't see where it is.
Like it doesn't seem to be when you when you get the stream I don't see a header that's coming back that says okay go here to get the eye the live stream data hmm You know, I thought it was a the same address but a different port honestly somehow I remember that Does it is there any documentation in live 365 that would show them looking right now Let me see if I can get the hello Fred live stream you are well, no now there's two Yeah, there's one coming from no agenda
stream calm Which is what you probably have And it would be better to use that one I think Because I'm streaming through live 365 and through live no agenda stream calm Believe it or not for a whole bunch of you're you're going live no agenda stream calm slash Adam. Yes, correct now I know that the metadata is being sent and received but That's being so if it shows up on No agenda dot stream and I know that void zero runs the server.
So he's probably pulling it right out of the server side Okay, see he's got it easy there There are in the response headers for the so if you do a get request for HTTPS Live no agenda stream calm slash Adam What you get back is a response You know, you obviously get the raw byte response, but then you also get the headers which are which includes some ice cast Specific headers.
Yeah, and that's gonna be like I see I see dash description I see dash genre name blah blah blah blah blah and So then there should be by the documentation. I've seen there should be also be a metadata Endpoint in there. That's something like I see dash metadata.
Hmm, and it should give you the the address To query, but I don't see that returned in almost any ice cast stream that I can find Well, interestingly if I if you if you get the so there's an X SPF stream What is that FPS well if you go to listen, no agenda stream calm Right. Okay. Yeah, and you see at the top there you see mount point slash Adam mount point I See mount point slash no agenda.
You don't see Adam at the top Listen, no agenda stream doctor not live but listen Yeah, yeah, listen that no agenda stream calm and I see mount point no agenda and mount point V for V music. That's interesting Are you logged in or something? Maybe? Well, it doesn't really matter click on the if you download that at the top You see the X SPF link Yes, so if you download that and then open it in notepad plus plus I'm on Linux. I'll have to use a notepad How about more? Cat there you go.
You can use that So I'm going to you'll see that the current you know, the current metadata is being sent with it And Which is kind of interesting SPF so I see Homegrown hits homegrown hits episode 68 Thursday 16th of January Yeah, and I see it's this yeah track list track title create. Yeah. Yeah, so that changes along every time the stream Yes, it does.
I believe so yeah, it does because I'm looking at mine from hello Fred and It shows me the current song playing Yes, and that is the current song. Yes, it is the current song Maybe I'm just not What's your what's your life 365 URL Okay, you're hiding that behind the The no agenda stream comm slash Adam. Is that was well.
No, I use that for tune-in But here I'll put it I'll put it in the in the in the boardroom, hold on I'll put in my end point My end cuz I want to see Let's stick your end point in the boardroom. There you go. I just stuck it in it's too late My end point has been stuck in the boardroom done. This is in ingest. Is that right? Yes. Oh wait, I'm sorry You're right my mistake, I think No, you're right that's that's the Audi Here it is.
Here's the Audi Okay, here's the Audi There you go, hey there we go, that was good, okay, so let me yeah, let me see Alright, so I'm gonna stick that in stick it in.
I Just did Dave copy link I'm gonna go I love I love doing this on in the boardroom It's like it's like, you know when you're in a board meeting and someone's trying to get the PowerPoint to work and I was like Looking on their phones, you know doing other things It's like last week people are saying that they were bored when the boardroom gets bored they start like creating protocols It's a good they were bored no one said that they said they were bored last week somebody said they were bored
Yawn, there's always some troll That's probably probably boobery boobery does that kind of stuff man? There's man yawn Yeah, man. Yeah, man. Okay. Yeah, see there's no there's no metadata header in here either So where am I supposed to get this from? Copy URL I'm gonna put in the raw stream. Yeah. Well, it's there it's there No, sure. It's there.
It's coming out And then maybe I'll try dot X SPF interestingly that just gives me the I Don't know man No, nothing on it, I don't know how to do this like I need a reliable way to document somewhere where To tell app developers, okay. Here's how you do this. Hmm Um Yeah, I don't I don't know Okay. Well, we're gonna we're gonna figure it out We're gonna figure it out.
You sure you dot dot X PSF and it didn't didn't get you anything Yeah, yes, it's not no no go No, no, hold on a second more Hello friend XP, ooh, no that gave me something that gave me something wait Well that gave me a lot actually if I do dot X PSF I get Do I get the current song? No, every time I do that that audio thing. It blows my head off. No, it's it's actually giving me the whole audio stream At that moment.
No, it's not good Anyway, okay help just say help help Help somebody help somebody help we'll get some it's a it's a cry This is the audio stream dust you're coming from dust edge That's edge Yes, is that where I'm coming from dust edge? Yeah, it's German It's right here.
This is the this is the actual audio stream that get you get redirected to for your stream But then if you like tried various things like putting in dot X SPF, yeah, you get you get the stream Nothing you get a whole bunch of data. Yeah Yeah Whatever.
All right help just help everybody now I there was been some talk and I'm not gonna tell you anybody who or what but there was some interesting talk There was some interesting backroom talk Back channel back channel stuff about chapters and I thought this was so interesting.
I wanted to bring it up that this may be another very and not for necessarily for me not for value for value, but Chapters Apparently from what I understand Some entities have been tinkering with chapters To use the firing of a chapter image at a chapter point when the podcast plays to that moment As a tracking mechanism for people actually listening at that moment in the podcast Now now I don't know if every podcast app works the same way I presume Some may already cache the images.
I'm not sure and I'd love to know how people are doing it, but I Would say that is a very interesting hack that people are looking at and maybe we can turn that into something robust That is not necessarily a spying mechanism But does give those who believe advertising is the future and their their Lord and Savior a way to get more first-person data than what we currently have and could actually help that side of Podcasting because obviously I'm not against what they're doing.
I Thought it was just a interesting an interesting observation Okay, so you're saying You're saying that let me just flesh it out Somebody's listening to a podcast. It's got chapters file in it.
Yeah right before the ad There is an image this displayed in the chapters and right after it perhaps and right after and so you could time you could time The to get requests for the images and find out If they listened or maybe skipped yes as a bonus you could actually put the ad with the clickable link in the chapter I'm just saying right That may be something that's really beneficial easy way to fix that from a privacy standpoint It's just when you download
the chapters file You just go ahead and get all the images with it. Well, yeah, but I'm but I'm not saying it's a bad thing I'm trying to think about our brothers who are the hell-bent on advertising Right.
I want I want to have you know, that could be a toggle, you know privacy mode Or you know, whatever or obfuscate to the get road proxy that get requests when you whatever it is I'm saying that that could be a very interesting feature for people who want to track advertising listens And if it's happening anyway, if people are experimenting with it Let's get it out in the open and let's talk about how can we do it that it protects privacy?
But still delivers what people who need that tracking want to achieve or not It doesn't matter to me You can have the app that doesn't do that. That's fine But what we need what we need is for for all this I Mean Apple has the right idea. We need private relay.
There you go That would be what Apple could do that and if Apple ever decides to do that for their podcast app in general There's gonna be all kinds of issues No, oh, it'd be their hue and cry, you know, so they could do two at the same time They could privatize it all and add in chapters Yeah, it would be a win-win for everybody Yeah, because if you have anonymized IPs Or obfuscated IPs then none of that other stuff then then the the tracking doesn't matter, right?
We're just giving these guys so many good ideas and what are they doing Apple intelligence? There's no intelligence to be found in it No, no, you see they've even stopped doing the the little summary of news Alerts because they were doing news alert some you get an alert.
There's a news item breaking news breaking news I need your attention right now, and they would summarize it and it would it would kind of Transmogrify the headline is something that was completely untrue The example being the the kid who shot and killed the insurance company CEO They had do they had that The final line was and then he shot himself So he didn't shoot himself and but now Apple has actually stopped doing that because the BBC was very upset with him because the
BBC Was getting all these I mean there may be three examples, but let's just say all of these Headlines from Apple's pop-up alert that were just factually incorrect and they were like Apple Apple stopped doing that for now at least Spurlock says that ice cast show shoutcast streams stick live meta in between the MP MP3 frames So I didn't see this because Spurlock Is a genius No, no, he he's he's not he's not a Shuns the board really he doesn't he doesn't sit in the boardroom. Why not?
What's his problem? He doesn't like the way everybody smells No fair, he's yeah, it's I mean, honestly, it's a little ripe in here sometimes But that's that's the way, you know shout if that's the case, then I would you should be able to pick it up Well, I mean with you'd have to decode the audio. You gotta have a sniffer Yeah, you just Sniffer grab a sniffer have a sniffer man. Just get a little sniffer sniffer action going on.
You're good to go That's cry for help may not be this may not be the in sniffer action That may be the title of this just get a little bit of sniffer action because that's that's actually kind of difficult because you I mean you would have to Create your own and you'd have to do web audio Yeah, and then decode the mp3s yourself Which is great as long as you know, which is not the I mean, it's no fun, but it's not the end of the world Until now you have to not all now you have to do Oh
AAC right, right Version 2 version 2 and OGG. Oh, yeah. Yeah, and then it's like, oh really?
I mean, I don't want to have to recreate all these different protocols and nobody else does either But I mean, it's gotta be a simpler way to do this I mean, how did a podcast addict podcast addict should tell us they've done it May it this there's got there's got to be a way it's got to be a way to player just a different player you put in There it doesn't make any sense to me Why would it be why would they make it so hard that the pod sage can't figure it out.
This is this is atrocious No, but there's a lot of things I can't figure out. This is not a new development This is not a new development. Yeah, you see see See server-side refresh Hydrated pages and trying to you know, load dynamic content nice from a third party. Awesome I want to end everything You know Yeah, next to JS with hydration. That is no fun. Please. Okay. All right We won't go there server-side.
Yes, please if you if you're a web dev, please don't do server-side Rendering with next J with with these react frameworks Please don't it just makes everything such a pain in the butt even it even breaks Things like last pass like it breaks like web extensions.
Yeah anything anything that break so there's Like any I think what's happening is it's like it's rendering everything on It's rendering everything server -side and then pushing it to Pushing it to like a shadow DOM and then flipping it into the regular DOM in after the page loads and So you don't but there's no like as a third party developer That's supposed to put some stuff on the page or interact with the page somehow There's no clear way to know when the page is
finished building itself So it's just like you're just like what mm-hmm You got to get your doms in order man something wrong with your doms Hell, it's a dumb issue His dom is a dumb issue. Yes, I wanted to mention Another huge opportunity for everybody that you could even do.
Okay AI jockeys AI jockeys pay attention Here's something you can do or not or you could do it just by yourself Something and another gaping hole has has showed up has has opened in the Communications landscape in America, I'll say in America, but it may actually be more outside. I'm not sure Byron Allen Who I really think is a cool dude Byron Allen Started with a radio show and now he just has a media empire And he owns a lot of cable Cable stations cable programming.
He's just been buying this up over the years And he just recently closed his acquisition for 300 million dollars of the weather channel So he owns the weather channel he owns the weather channel And the first order of business which of course if you're gonna buy the weather channel you want to make money on it So what did he do fired all the local weather people?
Okay now I'll tell you from my experience from my little Fredericksburg streaming station hello Fred dot FM The number one thing people this is what people always say to me after they've listened for it for an hour or day or whatever They'll come up to me and say man.
I love hello Fred dot FM I especially love it when you tell me what the temperature is on Main Street Because you know and the trap and the trap well, I don't have traffic, but the you know the software I use the playout system I basically recorded from minus ten to plus a hundred and ten and then it goes like this It's 15 degrees on Main Street in Fred, and it just pops it in in between two songs people love that the most They say They really do they said you know I can listen to k-love, but I
like listen to hello Fred It's got the same kind of music, but I get to know what the temperature is on Main Street, so it's really hyper local What an opportunity? What an opportunity?
for automated stuff I mean for so many different things I I'm blown away by the opportunity here for local weather Which you can get from you your nearest regional airport or local airport you can go to their website And they'll have the the the TAF the terminal area forecast, and it's very accurate The I mean that's great. You just scrape the HTML and get a sniffer.
You didn't get a surfer You can guess it well you can also get it from the National Weather Service You can get the it's code so you have to decode it, but most of these local Airports they'll decode it for you because it's just saying you know they have BRKN which means broken you know they have all these abbreviations, which is a as a pilot I've learned to read them, but you know if we can get it translated.
That's good, too Right and it's good within like a 12-hour period it's going to be very very accurate because lives depend on it So these types of and they have PI reps which is pilot report So you know you get a good situational awareness, and it's and now you have this hole where people desperately want this kind of information So even if you had a podcast that just said right now the weather is and here's what's coming up people would listen to it
They would subscribe, and they will always check the weather boom. Here's my latest report kind of like James when he had that time thing Oh, yeah, the clock yeah the clock which was cool. It was a pod clock pod clock. Yeah I think he he shut that down he he it went into sunset mode.
He retired shame Yeah, but and it would have your your local your local time wherever you were based on time zone That is I'm that is a programming opportunity that is just waiting to be scooped up by somebody How are you? How are you doing that on the live 365 side? Well, I you how is it dynamic well? I use this software called station playlist which is what most radio stations use. It's not cheap.
It's like 400 bucks And it has all these different things, I mean you can record A little you can just record a little intro just talking about something And then you can tell it okay back time it into the intro of the next song that comes up That that presumes that you have the intro timing set etc So in this case I literally just have a temp a temp insert the software Looks at the at the temperature for Fredericksburg, which I get from whatever service they use you know whatever open-source
service So it knows that it's 50 degrees, and then actually I can I can probably play this for you get it you get it Let me see so I'll say it right now. It's about 39 degrees in Fred hold on a second Where do I get that from? Hottest year on record It's always the hottest year on record Hold on a second. I said I have to go in here. It's it's really it's really quite funny. Let me see station playlist Where is it here it is and then temp files? Studio Okay, but it's your software. That's dude.
That's like dynamically. Yes, so it picks it up. It literally picks it up Let me see, but it feels like mine. Oh, that's that's feels like I didn't do the feels like stuff That was too stupid for me Here we go is this edge. Yeah Here we go it's 17 degree. That's their standard thing and here's my it's minus 17 degree man, I'm in the wrong folder they so they give you they give you that I don't use that one I recorded them myself Yeah, I've heard your inserts. They yeah, they're cool.
Yeah, I'm trying to find one to play for people, but obviously I'm I guess What I'm wondering is it is it? Uploading it to live 365 grid that no no no no this this does all local, and it just outputs it Outputs it as a in the stream, so it just inserts it the same way it would play the next song It just plays it just plays the temperature Okay, so I think I misunderstood live 365 so live 365 is an RTSP You're you're broadcasting into live 365 from here.
We go like it like you Is on Main Street in Fred there you go. That's that's that okay? Yeah, so you're doing is sort of like it's sort of like OBS would you're broadcasting into?
365 yes, yeah exactly Restreaming you yes live 365 does have a way where you can schedule everything and it will do the transitions But it's kind of low tech It's great if you're just starting out But if you really want to make things zippy and snappy then you have to go to your own software, so I have a full-time Dell that's just running that software all the time I Got you. Okay. This makes things a lot clearer.
Okay. I got you and so how I went so you so the metadata that Ultimately comes out of the hello Fred livestream is coming a writ is originating from the software yes from me correct Okay, this is much clearer in my head No, I like that. Okay. Okay. I've helped the sage.
This is amazing All right no one more topic we got a hit because as I look at my strike wallet funny things are happening I Got two sats here earlier this week if you're seeing this then I zapped episode 207 from Nostra From Damus on iOS using strike and it went to all the splits love Stephen B Of course it was Stephen B. So his split box is working. I have no idea What do you do Stephen? Well?
I think he's using the split box now I see Undefined Eric PP PC 207 live January 17th, so it's last week Six sats So something is working somewhere And I have a feeling that the split box if that one thing that Stephen B Sent he must be using the split box if he can zap to episode 207 From a Nostra note from Damus on iOS using strike and it went to all the splits. That's pretty amazing Stephen B. Said witchcraft and lots of chicken bones. Okay. Well, there we go.
Could you please document your chicken bones? We need we should get Stephen on the show. Just get him to break down split box. Yeah, that would be let's do that Stephen be you available next week. Let's do that.
Yeah, let's go ahead and do that He says split box can now read feed and get item goods That I put in the Nostra notes, okay Okay, I see that And so he was sending it from strike which doesn't do key send and his split box was then converting what needed to be key sent into key sand and what needed to be Ellen URL pay into Ellen URL pay and Re broadcasting it which is just lovely Interesting and and we're still waiting for for Oscar to get To get the Ellen URL
P stuff working on fountain he says what is coming in the next week or so So we're waiting for that Yeah, I think Oscar was out of the country for a while. I think he was on vacation He's always out of the country. He lives in England. What do you mean? The only country that matters man, but no one by the way, I will I will point out that our new our newly minted president Put out quite an interesting Statement on Let me see if I can find it the Where is it?
executive order to establish United States leadership in digital financial technology and There's a lot in here, which I'm still parsing But yes, this is causing much consternation. Yeah. Well, you know Confusion like some people are like rug pull, you know, and other people are I don't I don't know.
I don't see the rug pull But it does it doesn't mention specifically Self custody and creating software that you can do all that I'm looking for the for the exact language here I think the rug pull comments came from the from the the stable coin Stuff. Oh, but I've said this from day.
He was very clear about that at the Bitcoin conference But everyone's all too jitty listening to the Bitcoin strategic Bitcoin reserve He's going to use stable coins stable coin that the US dollar will be stable coin based which is great because stable coins are based on a A one-to-one peg with the US dollar and a stable coin is created when the US borrows one dollar So and we borrow a dollar So we have a dollar we just created a dollar and we borrowed that and someone else holds that debt
That is tether because they hold a lot of it And then they create another dollar in the form of a stable coin on top of that So you've secretly kind of made two dollars for the price of one on the balance on the balance No, the whole the whole thing could fall apart, I mean our entire economy could blow up at any moment my favorite my favorite line from the from the movie contact is You know with governments. Why about why build one when you can build two for twice the price?
exactly Exactly. I'll have to I'm looking into it, but I'm gonna I'm gonna see if I can break that down for next week because there's there's some other stuff that that that needs to be discussed about but but specifically it said self custody will be legal and And we should not only be feel free to create software that that that facilitates cryptocurrency, but also be you know free and legal to do that and So you won't get rolled up into you know, some Get arrested for
doing something This all sounds like manosphere talking points protecting and promoting the ability of Citizens and private sector entities alike to access and use for lawful purposes open public blockchain networks without persecution Including the ability to develop and deploy software to participate in mining and validation To transact with other persons without unlawful censorship and to maintain self custody of digital assets Dude that just made split box legal That's
what was the the thing that's needed is the thing that this this This not clear to me with this but seems to be promised in this which is which is regulatory clarity, correct? Okay, because I mean that that's really the issue here is that and if I run split box Am I a money transmitter? Well, you may be but as long as you're not doing it for unlawful reasons, you're okay, according to purpose and policy section 1 AI Well, yeah Apple intelligence.
Yeah, I think providing right here We go providing regulatory clarity and certainty built on technology neutral regulations frameworks that account for emerging technologies transparent decision-making a well-defined Jurisdictional regulatory regulatory boundaries all of which are essential essential to support a vibrant and inclusive digital economy and innovation digital assets permissionless blockchains and distributor ledger technologies Promoting and protecting the sovereignty of
the United States dollar including through actions to promote the development and growth of lawful and legitimate dollar backs Stable coins worldwide. There's your there's your extra dollar creation But it it's it's very clear that you should be able to develop and deploy software to participate in mining and validating to transact with other persons That I interpret that to be directly without unlawful censorship and to maintain self custody of assets These are all the issues I'll be had Right.
Yeah Yeah, that's that's what Daniel was saying it doesn't mean Albie can come back I mean, I doubt they would because they would you know, it's specifically states no CBDC Specifically, no CBDCs. No, no No taking measures to protect Americans from the risk of central bank digital currencies, which threaten the stability of the financial system Yeah, like stable coins are great. Okay, fine.
Yeah. Well see CBDCs the thing It's not like the digital dollar that we already use is that much different than a CBDC No, everything's digital anyway The only thing that have the only thing that's the problem with a CBDC is that it accelerates the the the race to the bottom Yes, like an infinity speed it does it does Because because then you just there's just no not even any pretense of holding back You just you know, you just start adding zeros like, you know, yeah
they're doing But I Think this is very positive for me. It's spells out very clearly.
You can develop software as long as you're not using it for money-laundering Which you know, of course there's all kinds of caveats there that has to be lawful So if someone is boosting a million dollars through your your split box You might have a problem if they're doing it to obfuscate money laundering, but it's highly doubtful that is going to work Whoa That drips got waltzes in the door Well, that's just where you you know, but that's just where you put sane limits.
Yeah, exactly even you know, even at like Albie did this when you're running a service and You know, this is something that I've run into this week Let's let's go this way So Tom over at bus sprout He pinged me and said You know, hey, I'm about one out of every You know 200 requests is to the API I'm getting an error and it's a it's a compression a decompression error Yes. Yes, and So I'm like, huh? That's that's odd.
And he you know, he showed me the error and And It's it's like a something with it with decoding does the Z the g-zip compression from the HTTP You know payload Okay, this is weird so I look and I can't find I really can't find anything in any of the logs That's causing a problem.
I Don't see where this is where this failure is being documented and the thing is he's still getting back a 200 error Excuse me a 200 response code but then it just fails on the decoding part and The only thing I can see that's different By looking at all the logging on cloudflare and everything is that We've had a huge influx in the in the amount of API traffic, okay The the the overall traffic on the API has gone way up. Do we know where it's coming from?
well, I started looking, you know started looking into it and there's a couple there were a couple of new sources of Requests that look like they're not They're not steady. They're sort of bursty type traffic bursty They're very burst. They're very thirsty. Hmm sounds scammy. I Don't think it is. I think it's just people Actually in a bursty mood, I think I'll burst over at podcast index here I come I'm bursting I don't think it's necessarily scammy.
I think they're just over I think they're hitting the API to too fast of a rate and Like we I get this from from time to time. I get people emailing and saying hey, I just hit your rate limit What is I'm getting rate limited what is your rate limit so I'll know how much traffic I can send Yes, we have seen those notes, too Are you I'm almost always reply and say we do not publish rate limits, right? Because this is my standard replies.
We do not publish rate limits because we are a free service that operates on donations and if we publish rate limits Everyone would elevate their there to the rate limit exactly to right under the rate limit and you can't and we can't handle that We we just want we want you to do We want you to treat the API responsibly that means think about how you Cannot hit us very much Please please consider us consider us like your friends not like just some some well You can drink from all the time
whenever you want you thirsty pauper you Yeah, right and the ones that always ask about the rate limits are the ones that have never donated any of course Oh, yeah, so I know people who complain about donation segments have never donated right, so this is that's my typical response and The and I think what has happened is a couple of people have come on board and they're hammering us In in waves to the point where they get rate limited And I think at that point what is happening is I think I
feel like It is Overloading the front ends either one or both of the front-end servers to the point where there starts to become error Errored like traffic like responses maybe get Broken mm-hmm and then When it backs off Everything goes back to normal This is just Completely a guess on my part because I can't find any reason for this hmm, I don't know so that means the compression breaks when when when we're getting hammered Here my theory is that is that before
the rate limit kicks in The traffic gets high enough on one of the front-end nodes to to cause a connection failure Before the request is finished and this and so what you end up is you end up with half a request being returned So you don't you basically have an incomplete payload being returned from the edge node To cloudflare which then passes it through and it can't be decoded properly So but because what one of the things I did was one of the people that were hitting us Were you hard
was using the sample code user agent string mm-hmm? And and so that is something that I don't allow that that we typically do not allow We actually block sample codes of people that just we don't I don't want people hitting us that are anonymous, right? they I'm gonna force them to use a Legitimate user agent string that identifies their application and so that we know who they are, right?
Because that's just that's there's the only way to keep sanity and keep everything running Well as I have to be able to identify Okay, this person is doing this thing which is causing some problems And I need to be able to know who that is so I can contact them and say hey Can you back off? Can you do this? Can you do this? So I just need some I need some wiggle room there, so I'm I'm actually I got more aggressive with blocking now What happens is if you use?
I just put in some more Restrictions so if you use any sample any user agent strings from our sample code library or if you use something that's vague like A Python HTTP library, that would be me Yeah Like a default library name, you know Anything like that kind of stuff? You're gonna get you get blocked with a 403 and in the response body of the 403 It's gonna tell you what the problem is so you can fix it.
It's gonna say it says You're not allowed to use vague Or sample code user agent strings Or default library user agent strings you must create a distinct identifiable app name And that will at least let me know What this traffic is because if we have something you know if if if somebody Here's another thing that happens a lot on the API We get a lot of educational people that are like doing You know postgraduate work, and they'll want to Download a bunch of data out of the API to do analysis on
which I think is great. Which is great I'm happy to provide that for them And they usually contact us because they want you know they do things right yeah Yep, and so they'll contact us and say hey.
Here's what I want to do Can I do this and you know yeah sure and but but then a lot of times They're just you know they just create a script And they'll just you know I always tell them I was like do not scrape Don't go Feed ID one all the way through feed ID seven Please don't eight million, please don't do this just download download the database right But they don't you know they don't always get This and so they'll they'll there are a lot of times what the source
of this traffic is and I need to I just need to know in advance name your app like University of Michigan You know Jimmy Whatever something so I can know that you're Jimmy And this is what you're doing so that if you do something inadvertently that hurts us I can I can contact you and let you know So I think that may have been the source of the issue Okay he says it has resolved and But Alex from podcast guru said he was also He thinks he was seeing the same issue,
and it was very it was rare, but it was it was showing up in the logs So I'm hoping that resolves it, but if it doesn't I'll get back in there, and we'll figure something out That's another another cry for help that I need on the On that on the DevOps side is I need to put in I need and I need to finally put in some better Guardrails No, it's We don't have we don't use Redis as you're you know every at every Every decision that we've made on the API
revolves around lack of Resources of course just money you know It's purely all about keeping this thing as cheap as we can because that's the way that we're gonna live forever and So What I mean anyone who works in a company?
Have you ever heard your DevOps people say we're trying to run this as cheaply as possible boss No, no no definitely not so hat tip to the pod sage Thank you, brother wait well so You know what we would normally do what I would normally do in a production server that I knew was gonna be getting a lot of traffic is Run run a Redis box which is in you know is an in-memory database very fast and Then all the things that are like sort of bookkeeping work So like when
an API request comes in you want to look up their authorization token Make sure it's valid all this sort of bookkeeping work that happens with every request You want to shift that off to this fast in-memory database?
like Redis That way you're not hitting your main database for just a little nothing sort of insignificant traffic You're keeping it reserved for the heavy hitter traffic, so you need me to create that ready date Redis database for you Is that what you're asking is that the help you need you chat GPT that thing you can get that up and running Why don't we thank some people who have helped us keep this running since I'm not sure I'm Conscious of your time in these
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I got inspired and searched on books about astronomy and space science I stumbled upon a list of proper names on Wikipedia I look forward to listening to a podcast about astronomy and cyberspace episode 1701 Atlas 27 Tauri I a1 Taurus Adam and Dave. How about stargazing events in Fredericksburg, Texas and Birmingham, Alabama?
Interesting you should say that Fredericksburg, Texas has low-light laws For this very really yes dark sky dark sky dark sky Yes for this very reason people love walking outside in Fredericksburg. And so neon is not allowed on Main Street and You're supposed to even Residential so that people can look over the night and see the stars and you can gaze to your heart's content And we do have a club. We have a club out here that was a call. What's the cold?
I don't know what it's called the the Fredericksburg Stargazers Club probably something like that. I think they meet at the airport On certain days and I don't know about Birmingham, Alabama. Do you have any do you have any dark skies rules there? We all just blasting just blasting everything No, it's it's no we're we're we just off the seat of the pants all the time. There's no rules here Yeah, you're lucky to get a speeding ticket in Birmingham.
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Oh Agent registration with the copyright office. Oh, okay. Good. I had to transfer it out of Eric's email address to ours I got that off. I need to send you these credentials. You have to do this through login gov Yes, because I saw like you've changed your password on login gov.
I'm immediately like oh crap Somebody's trying to hack into my or change your phone number or something like that Someone's trying to hack into my login gov, which is bad because that's your TSA number in your hole That'll soon be your digital ID. No doubt So you would do I figured you would because I saw then that was info podcasting next org. So I figured okay Yeah, yeah, how how I ended up changing this I Still don't know somehow. It just it didn't work didn't work didn't work.
And then it just worked. I don't know Yeah, login gov sucks banana balls Let me tell you that it does because there's certain points like oh, you've tried too many times come back in 48 hours It's got all kinds of it's buggy. It's just you know, what do you know? What's also a scam is ID dot me. Oh, we stay away from that. Stay away from that There's a lot of you can't you can't I mean like, oh, I mean they have like exclusive contracts with government He's now real.
Oh, yeah, Social Security Administration No way you have to use ID done me. Yes. Yes. I haven't forced down that path yet How they've done that with a private company I have is, you know pure But there's also other scams people who are trying to get an ESTA an ESTA visa Which is what you need to know. I know what's the one in Europe the the opposite way So now in Europe you have to pay it's supposed to be 21 buck. No, it was asked.
I'm sorry ESTA which if you're coming from outside the US need to get a visa and it's it was $17 now It's 21 and someone emailed me and said I paid 90 bucks. What a ripoff. I said, did you use a dot-gov? Oh crap. He said I went through some other service And they jack up the price from 21 to 90. So you got to be real careful It's a lot of scams, you know, the Internet was kind of a bad idea when you think about it No, it was a terrible idea.
We need to go back Back to bake -a-lite sticks sticks We got some boost Farrell Jeremy sent us in us 3,000 sass the fountain he says He says James Spann is a no agenda listener. Also, you know, that's the that's our local weather guy Really how do we know this man doesn't know he's a no agenda listener. Also, he knows every small town and crossroads in the state Of Alabama. Yes, he does nice the the most famous Video of James Spann is he's talking about it. He's doing live.
He's covering live a tornado that's coming through, Alabama And he's talking about the path is taking and he's naming every single little little like Hamlet and Berg every one of them of by memory off of this off of this thing and then he throws in a He's like it's coming through your town's come through your town. Hey everybody at Wesley's booby-trap, that's a strip club.
It's coming at you Landmark classic Thank You Farrell Jeremy gene being 2222 through castamatic He says regarding what Sam was talking about HLS can also be plugged into a CDN if you happen to need that level of concurrent listeners It's it's where a lot of things in television industry are going so I can see why it would be a good fit for the Audio side too. Hmm. Okay Interesting. Well, we are seeing radio stations in the wild using it. Mm-hmm Gene being again 2222.
He says Dave in case you haven't already seen it on Mastodon I finally gotten around to setting up some additional monitoring beyond uptime Kuma and happy to extend my monitoring alerting related to the index Thank you. Gene. Yes, I did see this and I'm getting Your notifications and Archie's notifications and it is very helpful. Thank you Yes, Kiwi the boobies Wesley's booby -trap is a strip club. Yes case. You didn't understand the story Yes, what a great a great name great name.
Yeah, I think that's the show title. That's our show title right there The booby -trap Wesley's booby-trap. No, just the booby-trap. Yeah Booby-trap Dwebb sent us 2500. He says through true fans.
He says Curated feeds in a constant stream could really work for publishers It's it could easily be automated with the handovers between podcasts for example I imagine something like a pushkin live stream Where you could have all the pushing content on a single stream with automated bumpers and handovers even sponsorships Between programs you could have a special link that allows you to go from the live stream To the same time in the actual podcast episode a lot of chapters.
He's Yeah, that's a cool idea. That's real similar to what that that's a similar idea to what? Jupiter broadcasting is doing with the Jupiter station their lives It's it's all their shows in a live linear format. Yeah a linear format automated. Yep. Yep, cool I Like the idea of saying okay click and that takes you to the podcast and then you're at that very spot in the podcast That's that's pretty bad. That's I like that Yeah, I like it too. Yeah, let's see. We can't that's okay.
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