Episode 179: Swiss Army App

podcasting going over may 10 2024, episode 179 Swiss Army Hello everybody, welcome once again to podcasting 2.0 You are in the boardroom. That's right. This is where it happens, where we discuss everything that's going on with podcasting. We run with scissors, sometimes the Poklonnaya out, but for sure we are the only boardroom that lets

Those stats always cracked me up. Like what does

that prove at all? We're discussing some marketing message from some company that has rediscovered that chapters. Oh, there it is.

It Wait, is this the new Haley Pena?

You better believe baby this thing is set up and rockin and rollin. Oh, yeah.

Okay, all right. Hold

on. Hold on. June finish. Yeah. Okay. All right. band ended. Thank you very good

job to show when you have you have configured multiple sounds or

Oh, yes. i Yes. i Okay. So we talked about this. He didn't work on the lash. I know I did some homework for the show. We talked about this on the last show. Eric peepee. My man, my man, Eric QTP. has upgraded heli pad to become an application. It is the application I am in love with. I

And by the way, that's Google standard.

So helipad is an application that you installed. Typically, I think for now, it really, the easiest way to install is if you have an umbrella, or like me, I am using an on Start nine. Now you do need your own node. But you know, once you're in the, in the league of podcasters, that we're in, you know, you got to have your node. And you're not running

your own node. And yeah,

you're not in the big leagues.

So you're not hosting your own WordPress, right,

I mean, come on. So then you basically get a little webpage and every you can look at the streams coming in. And you know, that's very exciting, because you just kind of watch it, it's like, oh, that's cool, you know, someone's listening, it makes you feel good. You don't need stats, you just look at this, like there's someone out there in the world. And you can usually even see their nickname they put in there and

And it's the first thing you do as an advanced as a power user

power user. So I'm just going to explain what I'm seeing. So there's three tabs now that show up Jen Roll numerology for 300 and web hooks now we start with general. So first, I can now already change what my helipad is showing, I can show the split percentage calculated when it comes in, I can show the SATs received that I actually receive rather than

this is this is like this is marketing, you would pay for it. Yeah.

And by the way, people nothing will will fire off while I'm in setting. So hold off. You don't want to do that. Because for some reason that doesn't work LPP I consider that to be above. But now, so you can add your own numbers. And in addition to that, you can add your own emojis. And you can also add sounds. So, for instance, as a reasonable test number I added to the already existing 808 which in the world of podcasting 2.0 and 15 year old boys is known as the boob

So can you give a range? Like what are the what are the secret numbers between? Well, they're imaginary match,

there is one number that is only three digits. And that has a sound, there's one so I figured I'd leave a secret number download for people to figure that one out. It's a beautiful number. That's all I'm gonna say the low rollers for the low rollers. Now, if you are a little bit higher in nature, I have one that Sam Sethi has done before. So they have a sound for that. And then I have some some that we have mentioned. But then there is also a baller boost, I mean, you can just imagine where

is to hook up With Buzzsprout I think they know how to do that.

No, I'm not. That's just because it's basically cross app comments.

Yeah, please do you want,

I'm gonna reach through this microphone and pull your head right out of my headphones. No, it's not basically cross app comments. It's a link in your show notes. No, no, I'm talking about a sophisticated SATs as a service. So I

apologize for trying to rile you up early in the show. Yeah,

that's all right. I listened to pod news weekly review. I got riled up. But I think this is this is the application that really I mean, the sky is the limit on things

some What do you need a some sort of like a, like a servo or something that's triggered that will poke Phoebe in the in the, with a pencil or something?

No, I got one of those zappers she just barked. I got one of those collars. You know there'll Zapper? Oh, you don't know, I hadn't put that on her in a year. And I only use the vibrate function. I don't use the electricity function. By the way, I recommend everybody use only vibrate and not the electricity function. Agreed I agree with him. But I would love to receive a text message. Which I think is pretty easy to

They probably support that already. I would think that they wouldn't do like Zapier. Zapier. Zapier. The if in IFTT, like I would think that they already support those sorts of web hooks.

I think Chad f actually, I think Chad F sent the right one but it didn't fire right. Either that or I didn't hear it.

Or you know, a chat F try that one again.

Oh, sorry.

If you if you send the right thing, it takes a picture of you with your webcam and post it to Mastodon

that's a great idea. Or take a picture never

know when it's gonna be. Yeah, that's

a fun idea.

I like it. It may catch you picking a big booger out of your nose or something. I mean, like, he knows all kinds of fun things could happen.

Eric BP tried to small boobs. No, no brother. That was too obvious. Now. I don't know. I wonder if this is what I'm always afraid that you know, like, now we do this experiment and then something fails. And it doesn't work. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it worked fine. It worked fine earlier, but I don't know. I wonder if I need to have the page in the foreground sometimes. You know, you got to wonder about stuff like that. I

wouldn't think I don't think so. Maybe. Did you did you close out of the settings and you're now back into the

back into the back into the wallet see chat chat apps and he's resending it. So let me see if I may have misconfigured it you know, no, I mean, sometimes

in order to get you click on Interact, yeah,

no, I did that. And we heard one. Okay, no, that's true. There we go. Blades on am Paulo Sam Sethi. 101010 Thank you very much. He's the big baller testing the soundboard BAM he nails it. Anything over 100,000 SATs that's how I programmed it beautiful Sam. Thank you. He says boost testing the soundboard. Oh, so

this is ah okay. So you see how it works. You can you don't have to have an exact amount you can say you can use ranges. We have Boolean logic.

Boolean. Yes, I can be equals so I just did anything above 100,000 You have equal to you can oh there it is. There it is. Chad F got the lucky 777 That's right. That was the lowball number. He nailed it now.

It's gonna get out of control.

And I only put it You win. So, good luck, everybody I love everyone's like sending huge amounts now. I gotta get this. Like, do

you remember that? You remember the lightning goat feeder? Yes. This

is exactly it is very similar.

Yes to go feeder.

This is awesome. I don't use that word. Lightly. This is absolutely awesome. I just think this is just so our guest is already trying to figure it out. And I mean, I could I could have configured this thing all day long. I didn't because we'd never get anywhere. We just did we just be doing this the whole time. By the way, Sam, that's not the number you typically boost. But thank you. That's not the one I was thinking of. Thanks for the thanks for the mega boost the

nice, nice, very nice. But you know, he wished it to a different framework. So like we were using like a, like a home rolled framework that I originally took out of some example code. And that's the back end for all of these different things, the bridge helipad. Lots of different stuff. And MK Ultra instead then he took he re engineered it with using the axon framework. Oh, and as I think I think that's a good thing. And I'm actually going to back sort of backport

Sam Sethi 10,000 SATs. Okay, there we go. All right, everybody.

That's so that's a little baller.

You got a short baller. Yeah, you got a 10,000 bucks short baller. Yeah, exactly. I mean, this is great. So much can be done with this. But also now you can have leaderboards I mean, it doesn't just have to fire off, you know, little events, it could add to a leaderboard. You know, based upon I guess an you know, you could have other inputs so you

if you if you send in like if you send enough sets you'll it'll trigger your Mastodon account to follow that person.

Yeah, why knife or follows or whatever? I mean, or you know, a call back so literally, you know, like, my phone will ring and it'll be calling you. I'm down for I can I can go on for days thinking about this. You know, like you boost this 200,000 SATs will make Bitcoin go up again. Not right now. Massive, massive crash.

Oh, man, this is read. I love this. It. It

brings. Okay, so many people are kind of comparing it to twitch. Yeah, in a way. But this is so much better. I mean, it's a million times better. And by the way, wouldn't my podcast host want to offer some of these? Some of these callbacks, some of these web hooks?

Well, if you're running a look, okay, so if you're running a local, I'm just thinking through this. If you run out a local web server on on localhost, you could run it on a custom port, and then set the web hook to call localhost. And then you could have your own machine. Do all kinds of things like OBS like trigger OBS, like OBS overlays. Oh,

hello. What's that? What's that thing I gave you?

Oh, no, the stream the stream deck.

Hello stream deck trigger stream deck. Switches. Yeah,

yeah, you could say trigger a stream deck button, which throws something up on throws the ball. That

would be even better if we could do if we could do MIDI events. There you go. Eric. PP. Have a nice weekend. MIDI MIDI events. Oh, I've got tons of MIDI stuff to fire off. My whole system works on MIDI that they call Yeah. You could even mute me.

No, no, I veto this. But I

like it because it's a total git clone. Oh, chimp. Interesting. That day, Jim should have fired I think. Okay, Eric VP has already identified a bug. So what is it? Well, okay, so if, if a sound has just fired, then you know, and another another fire comes in. Too soon after that. It does. I think you should have you should have gotten one chimp I'm not sure. I'm not sure what happened there.

So it can't. The browser can and play two simultaneous sounds. Yeah,

well, he's actually exempted. And depending on how much padding there is in each sound file, it could mess it up. All right, well, because chimp said 22 222. And I think I set that up as a row of ducks. Okay, but that didn't fire. Well, I feel bad about that. But anyone can try it again, if you want. Feel free. This is this is what we call ultimate gamification

is Yeah, I think the local I think the local host thing is a good a good idea. That's a pretty good idea. Yeah. That actually makes me want to write die.

Happy. Have a great weekend, everybody.

You know what I mean? Like, of course, they could like just be like bridge bridge, some calls over to, then you wouldn't even really even need a token or anything, because it's all local.

Right? But I'm just as happy to have you know, a service that I don't have to worry about. If it crashes, you know, I mean, it's easy. Or how about this? Added? What are you drinking?

This is a Lacroix pure.

I didn't expect that from you. But here's what you

can drink. Oh, this. You spent me you speed me to go stronger?

Show beer show beer?

No, that would be a bad show. Chocolate. But

this, you know, I just love SATs as a service. I think it'd be fantastic. Just let me hook into anything. Oh, you know me. I'll put anybody in the split. Like,

oh, yeah, me at least sometimes we have people in the split that weren't even there were guests like three weeks three weeks ago.

Hey, man, thanks for the value. What we appreciate that. Speaking of value, now was as a couple of things we got to talk about, certainly in relation to publisher feeds. And and we may want to bring our guests in before we do that, since he's a data scientist. But at first I wanted to someone pointed this out to me, the term value for value is just I mean it, I love how it's become its own thing. And it's just out

there isn't like just a few families that should own everything in the world. There isn't. That's true. And and, and they're so stupid. Like you said, luckily, they are stupid, because arrogance always accompanies ignorance. That's what Torah says. They're always the same two sides of the same coin. And they undo each other, let's hope. And so their arrogance is such that they've actually made with their greed

How about that, huh? From Rosie? Roseanne Barr.

She's a she's a wacky bird. She's

interesting. Yes. She's definitely different. Yes. Outlet agreement is.

Yeah, I mean, I never expected her to go value for value. I'll take it. Yeah. Let's bring

in our guests Dave because this is an interesting person. All of our guests of course are interesting persons. But this is not the the tradition of interest. It's a person Yes. Yes. Please welcome our guests in the boardroom and a person of interest say hello to the podcasting. 2.0 data scientist, Eric nonce everybody.

Hey, great to be here.

Eric is a dancer Dance,

dance. So

you gotta dance. Okay, when I kind of I kind of flubbed the last

one be the first time Eric Where

are you calling him from brother? Where are you right now?

I'm based in the midwest of America here in Indiana.

My wife's stomping grounds were in Indiana. Carmel to be exact. I don't don't know where that is

actually, that's just about like half hour north of the Indianapolis area. Okay. And she

says she was from Northwest Indiana, which was I think at one point South Chicago is there a place called South Chicago in Indiana.

Maybe close to Gary, Indiana as well.

She lives right across the tracks from Gary, Indiana. I always say oh, yeah, you're from Gary girl. Go away. You're from Gary. P like I did not live there for anyone who doesn't know you don't want to live there. Yeah,

I passed by it a few times. Roll up the windows when

you go past Gary, Indiana,

like the poster child for deindustrialization for anyone

that's accurate. It also gave us the Jackson Five so you know there's there's good things different Gary. Yeah. Gary, Indiana. Yeah.

Oh, I didn't know that. Interesting. I've heard that Bloomington is like beautiful. Yeah, it's not wrong about that. No, it's

It's nice there.

Cuz I always my only picture of Indiana. I drove through it one time. And it was it's flat with corn.

That is everything. There's corn. Yes. Carl state of corn. They all like coffee. I like Khan. Do you like Khan?

That N button I heard. But then somebody told me that Bloomington is there's no corn there? It's all there's all campus down?

Yeah, a bunch of trees in campus town. That's accurate. Yep.

Sorry. So you're you're the you're the the you're the date resident data scientist of Indiana headed. So you're you primarily work? Yes. A couple of things. You primarily work in the R language and you have a podcast about our That's

right. Yeah, I've been doing it. Well, I've did a first version of this. Way back in 2011 2012. Midway that one's been on hibernation I've been using our ever since my dissertation days in grad school, because I've literally saved my dissertation or as I'm whenever I graduated. So I've been hooked ever since. But yeah, Tuesdays are my day job and my hobbies too. But

you had so you had a previous podcast about it. And then you know, you've got to you've resurrect so used to have Yeah, is that what you're saying? You have an old one. And now you have a new?

Yeah, basically, the old one was called Dr. Podcast, that's my nickname on on the social areas. But then I kind of had a little pod fade here and there. And now I do something every week about community. So I called our weekly where we basically it's a community driven newsletter, the share all the awesome happenings and tutorials, new packages and all the latest developments in the our ecosystem.

How do you think that like? So for some add purposely? I didn't know anything about our and I don't? And I purposely did not do any research, because I wanted you to tell me what it is in like in your language rather than me just gonna read a bunch of Wikipedia.

Yeah, absolutely. It's, you could say it's a language that isn't a real traditional programming language in the sense that this was actually created by statisticians over a university in New Zealand, way back in the in the mid 90s. And admittedly, it's got its own quirks

have you been using it in the podcasting 2.0 realm?

Well, my first venture in this was, if you recall, maybe it was a year and a half ago, I created a little package called pod cat pod indexer, which is basically a front end to your fancy podcasting 2.0 API, so that we

It's what she said. Oh, yes. Sorry. So

I'm 50. So if you got so if you have the right, let's see, if you have, you know, of course, I've been looking through the dashboard and everything. I feel like this could be benefit is obviously beneficial to us. And so the, for our own needs only URL is our podcast.github.io/pod-db.dash. And it is obviously helpful for us. But I wonder, also how helpful you think this type hindlimb is having a hard time articulating them as we can

But absolutely, I'm tracking with that. And I think one of the things that I haven't done very much yet is looking at kind of a longitudinal, you know, sense of what's changing every week or what are what are the newest feeds being under and and how's that compared to say, a year ago, and maybe then, you know, things like that, which I'm not haven't built in yet in terms of this interface. But I think that could certainly be done. I just have to archive each of these in a in a snapshot

What was the one that I just saw, which I really liked a lot. Hold on a second. I'll bring it up. That was our, our statistician. That was one second up, Ron Plouffe.

Yeah, that's really cool. Yeah. Ron

Plouffe posted on May 9 2023 89. Feeds had the medium music tag attention. James Cridland appears it and here's a news item for you. One year later, there are 3031 Medium music tag feeds in the index.

Yeah, and there's also he posted last week, there are now over 20,000 value for value

value fees. Yep, exactly. I saw that, too.

What? So that's what you mentioned is something that I was thinking about earlier today. Actually, I don't I don't remember what I heard that was triggering that but I was thinking I was thinking about, it really would be helpful to find out, like on a per host basis. Which feed like, what the new feed creation volume is and see it go up and down. Yeah,

I like that idea.

You know, because it because it's, it's helpful, because you don't know. You just get these real general vague stats from the industry about you know, you know, $2 billion, and podcasts and just this kind of stuff that's like, okay, and then you look at, you look at OPI three data, which have been, I was looking through the other day. And one thing I saw about it was, it's real interesting. If you compare the downloads, to over 30 days to the, quote, unique listeners over 30 days,

And wouldn't hurt

yeah, don't have that labor right

access to give them right x. Table, give them a table, go for it.

Because we had we actually have that there's a couple of people who need like Spurlock has access to the full week, like the full database dump. This got all the episode data and all that kind of stuff. It's so big, it's like 200 gigs worth of data. So I don't make it public. But like, we could hook you up with stuff like that, if you wanted to mess around with it.

Oh, that'd be really cool to start turning loose on some of these other ideas that we've been talking about I've been doing is about as much as I got in this initial password, the sequel lite database every week, that's backed up, but I could definitely turn up another notch with that access. Because

the other downside to the weekly database download is it gets only dumping out feeds that are that haven't been marked as dead. And so you never see the stuff that you'd never kind of see what disappeared. Boucher. Well, I mean, I guess you can if you are like look compared to comparisons, like a diffs. week to week, but but it's a lot easier if you have like the full thing where you see all the all the dead and living podcast at the same time.

Yeah, yeah, maybe getting back to Money or points on this. I've certainly built this with with you all in mind first, because a member and I know the build up to this, I've heard you the moment the duplicate issue, which I'm not sure if we can both be solved yet. And my initial pass, but at least we got more insights into it. But anything to help this project kind of keep going and greater levels. I know a lot of the consumers of the database or the podcast app authors would

I love the sort of unapologetic, like the Virat the veracity of what you're, you're you're basically like a, I analyzed your database. And here's all the problems. Which is like, it's, it's actually great, because that'll you don't get to see that side of your own work sometimes. And like out of the because when I looked at, like the data quality tab, out of 12 different points of data quality, we have green checks on three of them.

Were numbers three,

we suck is basically they want us to hear this.

I wonder if I have a jingle for that I can hook up

with. So what, like if I go to the Data Quality tab?

Oh, hold on a second. I think I have it, please.

There you go. Yeah, that's, that's what should play when the data quality is below eight.

Yes.

I'm guessing I'll never be on the boardroom again, after all this, but we're

looking through here. So you have non missing podcast good. So if I'm understanding this, okay, so says out of the out of all the database records that were scanned, 4,180,757 there's 160 that don't have a good,

that's right.

Wow. And, um, which is kind of which was weird to me, because all the podcasts good to get generated when they're ingested. In which is so odd that there's any that number should be zero?

I remember when I was asking you on the Macedon before about, you know, what kind of fields I should be looking at. And we always said podcast good was one that we should always expect to be there. And that was a shock to me, too, that that basic check turned up with something above zero. So I think are those just building upon this that would illuminate these other issues that admittedly, you would never be able to predict, right? It's just the way the primes work, I guess.

And then they get unique podcast good values. So the failure there is that there's 25,000 records that clash.

Just going crazy on the soundboard today. I'm sorry.

Thank you for making me feel better about muscle.

Therapy, David's therapy. It's good for you. It's good for you.

Hello, I'm Dave and I have missing podcast.

Hello, I'm Dave. I'm a DB admin. Hello, Dave.

Non missing content hash. Okay. There's 16 Was this happen? Yeah. Okay. All right. How do I get this data back that you've sort of assembled here? Sure. Okay, so now I know. Now I know that I have 160 podcast records with missing Gu IDs, right? How do I get that back out of your dashboard in a programmatic way where I can, like, do actions on that without having to manually do things? Well,

he can. Yeah, I mean, that's there's some I can

what's what is a parquet file? What is that? Isn't

that he's jumped over stuff. And over walls and stuff. A park is a Parkour, parkour, I'm sorry,

park a. Park a is the butter is the fake butter. Yeah,

yeah, I'm getting hungry again. But um, in any event, this is a newer format, probably in the last like three years or so that's trying to be like an interoperable format for multiple languages to store tabular data. So it's definitely not great for huge nested JSON data. But for relational data, like we're seeing here, you can import these pretty efficiently with something called the arrow project. Also the duck DV database that you may be hearing about some and using this as a

that you're giving me like, I'm writing like a magnet, you give me so much here to have that. I don't know that have to go look up. Give me work.

Oh, yeah, I'm here to help. Right? I'm just here to help, I'm honest. But the duct TV things really interesting, though, because I'm not sure how much you're up on something called WebAssembly. For some of these applications online, they're hooking duck DB into this, we're in theory, if I could really update this thing to like another level, I could have most of the database as like inside the app itself, be a duck DB and still get great performance out of it. I haven't

so you're saying that you're saying this duck DB is like a connector? For like a but it's a binary connection to a database in the WebAssembly?

Yeah, it can be used in anywhere, not just WebAssembly. But we're seeing a really take off. And in the realm of data science, he says, Oh, interesting. Yeah.

We are deep inside the DB. I just can't resist.

I was waiting for that.

You're sexy man. Do you? Are you a data scientist during the day as well as your day job?

Yeah, I mean, that's still technically called statistician. But it's all the same thing these days. But yeah, at the at the day job. I'm at a life sciences company. The title is a director of innovation in our innovation center advanced analytics. That's a mouthful. Wow. But

you get chicks with that. Oh,

I got one year. We didn't need a grad school. So there's our score.

I like the term I love I use the term non missing. That's like a net, you negate it, instead of saying, here's the missing ones. Like, here's not here's the non missing ones. Yeah, that

one literally rolls off the tongue for me. Because at the day job, I have to do this all the time with the data, we collect and figure out what's missing. What's missing at random what's missing because of other reasons. There's all sorts of stuff I have to do there.

Let's see. Yeah, pit pages, like, like, if you want to make John Spurlock drink alcohol, just send him to this to the Data Quality tab on the podcast index dashboard.

Hey, you should you should run your stuff against the Opie three as well. That'll be fun.

Oh, that would be fun. Yeah.

Can't you run queries against our database and op three at the same time and come up with something useful?

Sky's the limit right.

The LCD you could Yeah, I was thinking about that about hella bad to be caught.

Oh, I'd love to have some a I'll pay you for that. I'll give you a split. Yeah, Ron is that Hello, Pat has all kinds of data, it's really as good, especially on the streams part, which we can't. I mean, it really can't do much. I mean, there's just so much data that the spreadsheet goes what

how big is your spreadsheet now? Like when you export for, for our show? Is it getting cuz I do worry about that I do worry that at some point the hell up had in database is gonna get so big that it's going to start to struggle.

You want me to look at the database? I don't know. Like

the the spreadsheet is sort of a reflection of the database of the SQLite database that backs up Ella pad.

Yeah, I did an export a while back of everything was like I think I did 2023 I'll see if I can find that and see what that because that's that's not that's all of my shows.

Yeah. Oh, yeah. You run everything in the same Hello, passerby that,

well, that is not the way to go. I mean, that's, that's the beauty of helipad is that you can have one wallet, this was telling Darren O'Neal, you can have one bay, basically one wallet address, use that for all of your incoming streams and payments. And then you want to see how stuffs doing well, then you just run a helipad export. You can see what's going on, let me see if I can find it. See if I can find that I know I stored it somewhere.

Somewhere. RF is are flexible enough? I mean, it sounds like it started off as a static is a a statistician language. But then it evolved into something more general purpose. Like is it general purpose enough to write just like a podcast app and or something like that?

I thought about it. I mean, in fact, I've been toying with my websites that I do for my older podcasts. And one of my video things called the shiny developer series, I had actually leveraged a package that hooked up to the Hugo

they there's a thriving like our package, package ecosystem there that has a lot of libraries that you can tap into.

Absolutely, there's at least 25,000 packages and our package repository called cran, which is called the Comprehensive our archive network, which is kind of similar if you see pandas, so you found exactly the words on my mouth. But then that's not counting all the ones that are just on GitHub, or Bitbucket or other git lab. Others that they just don't want it to be on cran. But they still want people to install. So there's like 1000s of others just in that

well, that. Speaking of speaking of object storage, and this is I don't know if if y'all had heard about this, but have you heard of denial of wallet? Oh, no, that sounds bad. This is sort of a new class of, of attack that you spent, I don't know if it's across all object storage providers. But I know it definitely applies to AWS, you can have so you still get charged for puts for AWS Object Object Storage put

2020 nightmare 2022. heli pad spreadsheet is 15 Meg's.

15. Meg's that's not No, it's not bad.

And let me see how many rows that is. Well, that's 2022. And it's 99,468 rows.

Oh, that's not that's bad

enough. Yeah, that's,

it isn't nothing. It has been in the back of my mind, I've been worried about how big is this? You know, see, because helipads just a web server on top of SQLite. This syncs with L and D. So I'm like, Well, how big is this database gonna get? I mean, when does it well,

we have a problem where you really notice it is I had to reinstall. So not just upgrade, but reinstall helipad, and then helipad basically goes through your whole node and, and reads everything in again. And I'd say took about 30 minutes. So but, but it's reading back, you know, to 2022. So it's doing quite a bit there. I'll just, I'll do some work on it. I'll add to this conversation.

Okay, cool.

Can we talk about publisher feeds? Yes. I have a, I have a use case. I have an important use case, which I'd like to talk about. Okay. So I've been invited to speak at the N. RB and the NRA National Religious broadcasts, correct. You nailed it. You nailed it, the knot and total get as it gets out? Well, you nailed it. And that's a big, it's like, you know, it's like the National Broadcasters Association only for Religious Broadcasters.

Which I have nerd.

Nerd a bunch of nerves, which I've accepted. That's in February. But through this, you know, I said, Well, what do you guys really dealing with the end, they had, there's a huge problem. And I think we can solve some of that for them. And I have some people who want to try it with us. And I was thinking that perhaps the publisher feed works in this context. So here's the lay of the land. There are about 3000

Yeah, like Yeah, like because they don't have like a vanity URLs. Yeah, there's

a whole promo code bond Gino. Okay, so my pitch to the Religious Broadcasters is as follows. And of course you were talking value for value here because you know, and I and I have to say I, I leaned heavily on the look how easy it is on true fans to top up your wallet. You don't even have to mention Bitcoin. You just need to buy five bucks you use your Google Pay or your Apple Pay and you're good to go. So the question is, if I'm a station in Houston, and And I have a publisher feed. Let

The first part makes sense. I'm not sure I followed 100%. On the second part, whoever did so the first first part first. So the the publisher feeds don't consider there's a difference between the technical implementation in this sort of conceptual implementation. Conceptually, it's meant that it was it was kind of we came up with it. For one, it was it was dreamed up for one reason for one sort of use case, and that was, one person owns multiple podcasts. I know, I

understand. That was the original idea. But

that, but there's nothing but that's just a concept, it doesn't mean that it cannot be used for other reasons. mean, like, so in this case, in my use case, it doesn't mean as the eggs it also doesn't mean it's the appropriate use. Like, it's kind of both ways. I mean, like it does, can you do it? Yes. Should you do it? I don't know. Like, there may be a better way to do it. Okay, well,

so the idea is, if we have, basically I'm looking at the publisher feed as a channel, but I also see that local Houston entity is a publisher is not the creator. So now it comes in interpretation of Publisher, but forget about that, because we can make something else if this doesn't

Okay, so let me see. So you would have Yeah, this is kind of where I've, this I think I understood what you were saying. Because this this is a little bit. It kind of flips what on earth? Conceptually, it flips it around. Yes, it does. It does. It does instead of one publisher, many feeds sort of like mini feeds one, or this is sort of like mini publishers one feed. Like there's so you have Tony Evans feed, who could exist in multiple published Yes.

And the reason why it's important is because I guess technically the app would verify or something. There's a verifications like oh, okay, these two are indeed connected. Now that connection is done by consensus between those two

I think what I think what you're saying would work yeah.

The enthusiasm and the certainty of how you answered that has me worried.

This downtrend. I'm trying to think of downsides before I say, yeah.

And the reason why I ask is because I have stations, and I have publishers who are very excited about the idea.

Okay, so what I'm thinking of, though, is that, is it appropriate to have? Is that the right thing to do to have a publisher feed for this scenario versus just a playlist?

Well, this the verification part that I think is important, I mean, I figured could also do it with a pod roll technically. But I don't know. I mean, I like the idea of being able to go into a podcast app and search for k g, O D radio station. And that will be a collection of feeds that that station endorses, and they maintain that list, that list is

You're I think what's throwing me off is the value flow part. No. Are you saying that there's value flowing through to the publisher? Yeah,

so we're okay. Yeah, automatically,

because the publisher feed itself doesn't have a value blog. There's no reason it can't, but it doesn't have one. Like, as of right now, that wasn't really

well, I guess. Well, because when I looked at the at the publisher feed spec, they're all remote items. Right? Right. So I could then I'm just presuming I can then say alright, I'm a publisher. I've these are my verified shows. So they're they're they're showing in my feed when someone boosts Can we somehow tie in the value block for that station? For a pre arranged percentage 10% Whatever. Just like we do with value time split doors that they might complicating things too much.

It would be it would be better if the publisher feed had the value blog in it. Yeah. Which there's no reason it can't.

I'm breaking your brain more than Eric I love it. I mean Dobby Das is in the biz rockin in the boardroom saying yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. It's possible. Yes, yes, yes. But I mean, he's way deeper deeper into it than I am. So.

Yeah, no, there's a case. Just be clear. There is no But look, there is no reason that a value blog cannot be in the publisher feed. And it should. the only the only thing is right now, that's not going to, that's going to go nowhere. At this point, I mean, this the poster feed stuff is just it's so brand new.

Well, that's why I'm trying to insert everything now. Like, can we change something? Or is there if it needs to be something else? That's okay. The

know the way this stuff is all built? Is this all built on? You know, their, their widgets? You know, they're plugged, they're these pieces plugged together? I mean, the brilliant part of this that Alex came up with was the remote item. Yes, yes. Yes, yes. Which, you know, because once you have that piece, you can just plug things in. And so a publisher feed is just an RSS feed is just a podcast feed. So you can plug

I know that so that

when you're listening, it has the app knows to look for these things. Yes. And this, if that's the if that's the case. And you have that, yeah, there's no reason that wouldn't work

isn't maybe, because I can see so many you even with music, I can see. So I can I understand how publisher feeds work with music. And it's really just terminology, because all versions of the same thing. So in this case, I'm really talking about a distributor feed. And what does that mean? That means that the distributor is promoting actively promoting their channel, their distribution channel, and they have relationship with the feeds that are provided in that

See, this is what okay, this is what keeps bringing me back to the to the idea that there may there may be better than just have this thing be a playlist. This in this sense, because the key God there, they would have just a normal podcast feed. Yeah. And they're going to have and they're going to be put in what they would be publishing is remote items from from Tony Evans feed or all these other feeds. And then they built into that they would have the value

Okay, now just bear with me. I like it. So one last question. Okay, so the remote items, can the remote items, just say any new episode from these feeds or does not have to be items individually to they have to go in and edit and say okay, we want the latest Tony Evans who want the latest this the latest that the latest this?

It could be it would have to be specific. Okay, though, it has to be less specifically identified. But I would think NEC and you know, CMS can be could do that could pull the latest and insert that data in there doesn't sound like a barrier to me. Okay. Alright, guys. We can mark it up, you know, like, like, yeah, we

need to Jesus feed mock up. And yeah. Yeah, mocking it up would actually be good just wouldn't get our heads around it then. And I wouldn't be pushing this this hard. If I didn't have a real world scenario, and people actually excited about this, who are in trouble? And who, and who want to move to a new realm and have big towers to broadcast and promote this stuff, promote our apps promote value for value

Yeah, I think the the, I just feel like the playlist is the best way. Yeah. Because, you know, Bs, Steven bass, right? Publisher feeds are expecting to be pointing to feeds and not not items.

Which is what I was kind of looking for I was kind of looking for. It's almost like an OPML file, you know, where you subscribe to an OPML. file? And then right, and then you just you get the new episodes automatically, instead of there being a secondary process?

Yes. I think what you're envisioning is a way to make make it sort of easy to syndicate.

Yeah, it was totally about syndication as complete. That's entirely what it is. Because

you, like in your mind, you're saying, Okay, well, I just want to put this feed in here. And then, and then that automatically just gets all the content, right.

But people subscribe to one feed, the K Gods feed, and then they get all that content when it comes out. And the only, which I know is possible with the publisher feed, even though that's more of an ownership, I get it all. But that's what kind of struck me it's like, wow, this is a cool

Yeah, I'm just concerned about the, I'm concerned about the connectivity not going through correctly on the app side. Was that, like, you sort of like that concept you have have? Is, is intended to be it does exist on the on the app, if they support publisher fees, but it's meant to be loose. You know, it's meant to be like a loose

I love it. I love it. Because so I mean, so at least you understand the elements. The idea is radio station has relationship with publishers, whether that's however that is, and for that relationship, that means that they can promote one feed, subscribe to this in your modern podcast app. And I'm envisioning, you know, radio stations blasting out names of apps. Okay. I mean, this is this is where I'm going, I'm going big. And, you know, like the

okay, so if you look at the podcast namespace and look under the medium tag, in the examples, there's an example. That is basically this, except it's using in this scenario, it's using music as an example. But this is but it's essentially the same thing. Except this would not be a music example, this would just be a podcast example. But it's basically saying podcast is meat. And here is music. L So instead of that, in this scenario would be podcast L.

Seth is in the boardroom and he's saying hey, you know this we do this we this works that Sam you should be boosting that hello what happened? What happened to the income stream Sam used to be boosted ramming that the trigger sound let's mock it up. Dave, you and I will work on this market because that would be some hot stuff, man. Hi, there's no super hot market up Hey, should we take a little break and listen to some music and then we'll come back and talk some more nerd stuff

before we do this? Eric Are you Are you okay?

I'm good. Yeah. Join us like everyone else.

All right that track not foreign the band not foreign to podcasting. 2.0 we played them before they are the trusted if you intend to boost during this song please let them know that you heard it on podcasting 2.0 Episode 179 Here's your track for today to trust it and doomsday podcasting 2.0

We're playing poker demons nothing left to steal just saw can please keep both hands on the wheel Good Day. Day was supposed to say we're playing poker with demons this

lecture Domesday, the trusted on your podcasting team. Yeah, I love those guys I think are great. Just one other thing because there's another outfit I've been talking to just to get everyone all excited because I'm bringing the Satoshis baby there is a new media startup, probably the best

It this is a this is a Todd Cochran level secret company that cannot be named? Not

yet. No. But within within hours by July, they'll be able to be to be named I mean, I don't want when they have their sizzle reel, then we'll all know what it's about. But I specifically actually I said, Hey, you know, look at all these apps. But if you want to see what's possible, look at true fans. Because if you want to, if you want to see all the stuff that's out there, if you want to see everything that's possible, it's all these features you've been talking about. Here it is,

if you want to see everything that's possible, and some things that are not Yeah,

some things are completely impossible, but yet the true fans.fm. But, you know, they they just, you know, they they know about a lot of our apps already. And they're just so I just took them away from him with some for some reason. They have this belief that and I'm sure some app company told them this, that they could not get high quality video unless it was native and apps.

I don't know what that means, like, yeah, exactly.

bullcrap. So they were told, because it's a video, it's a video thing. Yeah, we're told that unless they go with a native app, then they'll never get the high quality video they're looking for. That's total horse here.

Does that. Yeah.

It says total horse drive that. Yeah, this is totally not true. So that's the level I'm dealing with. But we're working on it. We're

working on it. Yes, you're evangelizing I, of

course I am. In more ways than one day for more ways than

press the lights bringing them in. That's right.

That's right. From all nations, all nations.

Do you want to I've got a couple of things on mine. Yes, of course. Do you have. Do you want to talk about the open podcast sinking? yeah that Jack Jack Dorsey's interview about

I didn't see Jack Dorsey's interview, but I had no idea what you're talking about.

Oh, you did? He did an interview in this in this thing called pirate wires. Okay, that wasn't aware of this outfit pirate wires.com. He just talked a lot about about social media and being way out I mean, I don't know. What do you want to you want to get you want to go? techie want to go nerdy?

Well, let me let me just let me just say, let me say one thing, I'll say one thing, and then you take it wherever you want to go. But just wanted to discuss the latest Apple ad. That is so controversial, I'd

do this this ad. I don't see why this is such a big deal. It's just a bunch of it's just marketing crap. Ah,

this is why this is why I wanted to give you my opinion, which as you know, is the most important thing to me. Apple, because you know, as compared to the 1984, the introduction of the Mac, you know, the big brother thrown the sledgehammer through the screen. Apple is known, and the company, the actual DNA of the company, when Steve Jobs was there, and then he went away, and he came back was, it was Steve Jobs was a messianic like figure, Steve Jobs was a creator. And here's

That's an interesting take. Okay, so like, I just saw this as an ad, like every other ad is just like, whatever. I mean, I have I have no reaction to things like this, because I'm like, it's just, it's just marketing me. Like, it's like, scrubbing bubbles in your toilet for your toilet. Like, who cares? I'm just writing psychological take on this that I had not considered. But I've

been in I've had an advertising agency, these things, they, you know, if they didn't come from within the company, they, especially these aspirational type things. They come from within the soul of the company. And then particularly with an apple, they don't just put these big ads out and put it this a very expensive ad. They come with a lot of approvals. They go through a lot of processes, a lot of people that you know, steering committees, they have to think about it. And

not thought of it in those terms, Simon

Sinek, I think is the guy's name find your why Simon Sinek

it one thing I've always been interested in is how this sort of goes back to, to your theory about a sort of a dimension, a dimension V type thing where you have where

a noteworthy occurrence.

Yeah, it probably indicates that there's, it's probably a good barometer for the way people's minds are currently in culture. They're afraid. They're afraid of people. They're afraid of corporations, governments, large institutional players, crushing them. People, people feel crushed. People feel like their jobs are going to be taken away by technology. People feel like their dreams are being crushed by the march forward of quote unquote, society. I

think you're nailing it here.

Total in book because people feel that way. Because that's a sort of prevailing zeitgeist of the way of in everyone's mind. There's a trip there's a says there's a like a permeating trepidation of these sorts of things. You end up with reactions to they're probably overreactions. But their reactions that make sense based on what people already have inside of them. You know, there's a there's a sort of the story that people tell themselves about what they see

yeah, the meaning of actinic Relating to or resulting from exhibiting chemical changes produced by radiant energy, especially in visible and ultraviolet parts of the spectrum.

Yeah, this is this is a, this feels like they feel a sort of they this this radiance that they want to portray is ending up being harmful. This this this portrayal of themselves and their products as soon as amazing and

they're sad. They're trying to be the light, but they're frying everybody with it.

It fried everybody's brain. Yeah, you know, you know, what else put puts out a lot of light. Nuclear nuclear explosions and lasers are not laser lasers. Yeah, I mean, things that I think there's a point in which light is no longer helpful. It's harmful. Yeah. And I think that their own vision of themselves has become a little too pure.

Also, I feel in general, and Eric fields, but feel free to chime in whenever you want. Since we're doing philosophy corner. I feel in general, that the way the people are feeling today is they are gadget tired. They are tired of gadgets and then tchotchkes that longterm under deliver Amazon Alexa is biz comes to mind, right off the bat, how many people I haven't heard say, not threw that thing out. Me all. I did only set timers for me and I got some other speakers solution

Yeah, yeah. You know, much as a really fast chatbot for wrong answer. Yeah,

my sister is in that in that she never ceases. She has heard she got her master's in psychology, but she's an online psychology that they have to ask her the the title like an engineer, basically. And she works for tech companies. And she uses whatever's available, whatever tools for search for shopping sites. And, and so like big ones, like really big stuff. And, and so she's doing a lot of custom MLMs for, for catalog companies. And she says, Man, it's so expensive. And it's but

So I believe I can believe that. Yeah, for sure that that makes a lot of sense. There's a general fatigue. There's a tech fatigue that is pervasive, pervasive right now. That's right. It is so pervasive, I cannot tell you how many people I talk to that so so there's a friend of mine that did a was involved in a startup that they're, they're struggling right now. Probably not going to make it and it was a very forward looking startup. They can't sell it. They can't sell

you lose your kids

after dinner after. So you know it was a it was a respite from this constant. The world out here it's hard to deal with because of course it is because humanity and and brokenness and sin and all these kinds of things that we all deal with is the world we live in. And it's it's there and it's hard. And you come home and there's a there's a respite that you get to enjoy until the next day, where you have to go and

Yeah, we saw we saw this common. We saw it all coming. Yet

technology is not it's not. It has not been the great liberator. Now, in a lot of sense, it has been a set of shackles. Yes,

I did have a vision though. I had a vision. I had a vision. And here's the words that came out of my mouth. The our podcast apps are about to become Swiss Army apps. There's something going on with the media that we're consuming the media that when I think it happened when I saw that chart going up to 3000 feeds medium equals music. I'm like, these apps are going to be the distribution apps in the future.

I want audio books in my chest and

yes, of course. Of course you're gonna get it you're going to I promise you

I want I want that I've been listening to a lot of audiobooks lately. Not as many podcasts and man I could I would tear up some audio books in my in pay for and dead stream sets all day.

I'm a big audio book guy big. I mean, I that's how I read books. You know, I read so much I'm tired of reading so I just want to hear it just just read it to me daddy. Me

too. Yeah, I mean I pay we pay 25 bucks a month. Yeah, like big. The top tier audible Yeah, and then you got scription you have

8000 credits well you don't use them they're gonna go away. I mean, we do value value please please

let me stream I mean, there's so many good narrators out there that with great pipes that could read all kinds of books and just make a really good living off that Yeah. On to point A What do you say

to them? I'm an audio chunky as well.

Yeah. What do you use

it's audible unfortunately but I'm waiting for modern adoption of these and the apps the thing is

ma'am this so liberating the money is non existent for authors and publishers in Audible is unbelievable. I toyed with the book for a while. And then they showed me the the mechanics and the numbers. And basically you will make no money off of that Amazon takes it all, all of it.

In Spotify is audio book thing. That's just a that's just a play to get there. Bundling does that you're not going to make anything off that. So

hence, the honesty, the openness, the enthusiasm The grassroots the scissoring of podcasting 2.0 is the future.

Podcasting 2.0 colon this scissoring? When a couple a couple things, just things that happened this week, AP bridge fixed a fixed bug in that. Yeah.

What was the what was the what was the bug? So

that was related to Mastodon author with a thing called authorized fetch. Hmm. So what was happening was people were trying to save people from certain instances like Mastodon, if you have this mode turned on, you can go in there and enable a thing in Mastodon called authorized fetch, but also other other activity pub platforms have this to like miski and Sharky. And in that thing, there's some others. It basically just enforces HTTP requests signing on every call,

It was interesting in that conversation I had about the just new media company. I was talking to him about activity pub, and they really liked BA, they had no idea and I started to explain it to him, and you saw their eyes. And I was like, you know, once you can get them past the idea of Mastodon and like this just hooks applications together. And you can communicate I mean, then they're like, Wow, in the I always use the washing machine. Like my washing machine can tell

On master. Now, but yeah, they like to have can tell me that the laundry is the dryer is finished.

We know people who understand media and syndication, they get this really quick when you put it into terms that they understand like, oh, okay, okay. Yeah.

The API's. Now, publishing is now reporting the publisher medium correctly, it was not doing that before, get got a couple more things to do. And the API for full publisher mediums, support. I've got to add support for, like, into the endpoints got to deliver that remote items correctly. So that when you have a publisher feed, it'll it'll give you the remote items

mean, like it should, right? That was yeah, that you need to fix that. Yes, I remember that. Yeah.

Yeah, just need some. We just need full support. I just gotta get in there and do it. Dovid I don't know if you saw this Dobby. Das has a live stream test. Yeah. 24/7 switching

blocks every minute or something. Huh? Yeah, that's cool.

So if anybody's wanting to support live streams with value blocks, or I mean, or just live streams in general, with your podcast app, yeah. Go hook into WDS as live stream. And that way you can, you know, sandbox, your app.

I love all of our hosting providers, all of them for so many reasons. And especially the big ones who support this, but also help me move when you know, when you have a Buzzsprout adding a tag. It really moves stuff. Yeah, it does. But I'm also so excited by the 2.0 native guys, like Dobby das and Barry. I mean, I'd like to see more. You know, I understand how the numbers work. You know, if you're, if you're one guy, and you can do it all and you can develop and you

That's not Yeah, that's where the scissors are. Small guys. Yeah,

exactly. And there's a lot of scissoring going on with those small guys that tell y'all. Yeah.

Yeah, I think I think yeah, I think that's about it. We can talk about open podcasts and KPI next week. We get some people to thank probably,

Eric, anything else before we go into our thank yous?

Oh, it's been lots of fun to join you all and if you have, of course any feedback on this A famous dashboard. It's just a GitHub issue away or shout me out i Macedon that goes anyone out there? I'm really eager to improve that a lot. We love

what you're doing, man, we love that you're part of the gang. It's it's great to have we have such a cool, eclectic, varied bunch.

Oh, it's a good writing. I really, really feel great to be a part of this. And I wish I could bring some of that same energy to the audience that I have for my little podcast called our weekly highlights. I haven't quite caught on the value value train yet, but I keep trying to unplug it. What's

the where do we find is our our weekly highlights? Is that what it's called? Yep, yep. In any in any modern podcast app. I'm presuming.

That's right. It's even got the fancy chapter images and links and all that. Nice.

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case you're keeping track. All right, let me run down the booths. We've gotten quite a few booths live and then we'll thank people who have come in throughout the week call McCormack. 2222. thrown my name in the ring for V for V narration and voice acting services on anyone's audio book. Brilliant opportunity. I agree. 2222 from Steven B. He says we need more philosophical ponderings from Dave some of the best most thoughtful content Yes, that's what we're all

no believe somebody just got a 777 Yeah, no, the seven.

Three sevens is the harp. five sevens is the striper boost.

I haven't heard anything come through the soundboard and no no, no, no

people are out of sets. Ran they ran dry. Fill in their wallets. 11 Allah 11,111 row of sticks from champ how does the splits affect this? If the goal is to hit a certain number with a trigger, see the initial boost number or after the splits are made. Okay, chimp. So in helipad, you can choose to see the total number sent or the just the amount you received. I've chosen the total number and the the boosts

database access. Right. I just did it all.

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Andrew Gromit, 2222 Road ducks, thank you for the API. It's the gift that keeps on giving. And

thank you for making that web framework. Andrew grommets important is going to be really important moving forward. Andrew

is one of those guys that just sneaks around and pops up with a feature just comes out of nowhere, you know, I

also think he probably made a lot of money somewhere. I got a feeling Andrew left my loser company, and then went somewhere and had an IPO event or something after feeling Andrews doing good and I'm happy for him. Good.

Linkin Park rolls through fountain 10,000 SAS price. Hey, guys, I'm not sure if this is a namespace thing. But I think bookmarks would be a great addition to podcasts and people know apps. I'm on the go when I'm listening to podcasts most of the time, and it would be great to just hit a button on my lock screen. to bookmark something I could clip or share in the future. I know Pocket Casts has this as a premium

I'm sure we can work that out. Marking is a that's an app feature. Right? That's native to the apps I guess.

Yeah. I don't know that. That doesn't really feel like a namespace.

No.

I feel like we're going back in time.

It is my it is my retro go back in time harp. Yes. Yeah. I'm gonna have to remove that one is too easy for y'all. Okay.

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Look at this group drip just posted a link to a Swiss Army app image. What is the new chapter Meister? Man guy he's out of control, out of control. But like I'll use it. I use it dribble, use

it for the art. That's great. Oh, nice.

Thank you all very much. The whole project here has value for value and what a fantastic amount of value we've received today. I know we're all just playing around. But man, what a great. What a great application helipad is and it worked because it's such eolane Yes. And lots of SATs value for value. And I love it. I love it. Eric p p send me your send me your wallet. Man. I want to put you I want to put you in some

Alex is working on a project. Right now. hopefully have some some some to report back on that here in the next few weeks. Top secret popping project.

Top secret, okay. And this is did you have an NDA from you to say?

Yes.

Did you put him under NDA? Do you put them under non compete?

We're doing it all on Mineiro

you know if someone would privacy coin if someone want to do it be good for me. I'm fine with that.

Man. There's a crackdown on privacy coins. Hard. Like yeah, like some of those privacy coins like manera getting like delisted off exchanges and stuff. Oh, really? I don't know. Yeah, I don't know what exactly is going on. I don't really keep track of it. But I have subscribe to this

scared. Yeah, of course. People don't want to go to jail.

When the tornado cash and all that stuff start. Oh, be

honest. They were doing they were advertising for the criminals. Like yesterday. Okay. Yeah. So like, okay, whatever. Good. Don't do that. No, don't just know it's not it's not a good idea. Data scientists Eric. Man, thank you so much for coming on the show today. Thank you for all that you're doing. Really appreciate it. It's great to have you and great to have a Hoosier on the show.

Oh, pleasure to be here. And thanks for cleaning up the boardroom after that chaos last week. I tell you, my goodness.

Don't don't turn on the black line.

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