Episode 178: Tepid Tub

Oh, podcasting 2.0 for May 3 2024, episode 178 is Friday once again. Hello, everybody. I think we're on summer Fridays. I don't know. I think we're in a good a good season right now. Welcome to broadcasting 2.0 We are the only

No, it was not a pegleg tightening that was a that was written and tightening the microphone stand just before we started here. It's

like a dentist drill or something is like, is it electric screwdriver? Left?

Yeah, drill this. Yeah, wireless. Do

you need a you need? You need to tighten up your microphone stand with a cordless drill.

It's a little concerning. So it's one of the let's see, what is this? What stand stand is this? This is a electro voice model 309 A

Oh, ancient.

Is it just the way it was just the way

but where does it take a drill?

It's it's one of those stands that comes? It goes under the

back. I didn't want to say that. I saw two in the in the boardroom people. Calm down board members calm down. And once in the board room going crazy.

So it's one of those stands that like it doesn't go up and then come back down. Like, you know what I mean? Like?

I really don't I

really don't know why you mean it low profile? Yeah, like you have. So I guess I'm still okay, maybe let me understand wait for let me what's the model number? Let's just let me type this. Look at a picture. What is what is this? What is this thing?

This This may just this may not be this the stand actually, this may be the little holder for the mic. The shock mount? Okay. Kind of funny, because there's nothing listed on this.

I have. I have the I'm an old school guy where I want my mic, boom and arm coming from above. And it seems like all the cool kids these days have heard that come from below. You know what I mean? So the standard is low and it prompts the mic up. It's holding it from underneath and I'm from oh, gee, where it has to come from. From above. I want it hanging down in front of my face. Hang it in front of my face.

See, let's can't mount okay, maybe that's a that makes sense. I hates an El Gato.

El Gato. Okay. All right. Yeah, here it is. El

Gato. Mic arm LP for low profile.

Low Profile current wave. Oh, gotta

wave mic arm. Yes, yes,

I see it here. Okay, let me see.

So you're a top you're a top and I'm a bottom is what you're saying? match made

in heaven. Yes, exactly. This is I don't like I don't like being a bottom. I like to top I like the top much but it feels like that would get in the way of my hands. Well,

it's the it does kind of sometimes. So what but the problem is I can't my my podcast area is so small. Yeah, that like my screen is directly in front of me. And if I have the if I have the arm in front, it goes right in front of the monitor and I'm having to look around the monitor the entire I mean around the corner. No, this is green.

This is how the pros do it. I literally have my eyes separating around the mic holder scenario. Splits my vision. Absolutely. caps. And I've been doing that for 45 years. So

yeah, this is what it is really annoying.

But like I if I had any other way I think I would be uncomfortable.

It'd be something would be wrong. Yeah, you're wrong. Yeah. It would feel very wrong. The only problem with this L LP mic arm. Yeah. Is that it starts to like so I had to drill a hole on my desk. You know to mount that to me? Of course. Yeah, of course of course. So then it starts slowly over time it starts to sag as the as the the bolt holding it in from the bottom of the desk is slowly unwinds itself for

realized I need to take another picture of my rig people have no idea I have it. field I have one of the coolest setups you know I have a desk you always have a killer set I had a desk made to order to size exactly for what I want it I'm gonna have to take another picture I gotta clean it up a little bit but

Nathan I can't clamp it to the edge of the desk because there is no edge of this desk this is a desk is an edge list desk it's it's a built in this this this actually built

I just took a picture oh yeah a few I see the boardroom I can post that off to put this online just put it into the boardroom

Can you do that

then the benefit homeless

should take picture this it's not a wise it's a basically a weird it is.

Hey, I'm glad you're tuned in and listen to this boardroom as we sit around taking pictures of ourselves and our gear in our podcasting

in general is so freakin boring right now this is probably more well you

know why is because we're not like all the cool kids. We're not doing video as I listened to two hours again, of the new media show. Two hours, two hours about will your usual the trend shows the trend is a trend is that all the kids are doing video

and swipe right. I do. I stick with

it because I love them. I really do. But it's getting harder to love them. It is just getting harder. It's like I mean, was there any other talk except about that? Is Rob Greenlee paid by someone to promote YouTube?

He's well mean he's in he's with stream yard right? Aren't they a video streamer. Okay,

so that's it, then that's his job. Okay, well, I'm gonna understand Come on. Just like the same conversation every week. I'm going to be on a 15 hour plane ride. Video is the way to go. That's all I hear. I did learn something else. So and it kind of made sense. Actually. I learned a lot of things because I learned a lot about the hosting business and and kind of the the sausage of podcasting. And Todd was talking Yeah, how the sausage is made. Did the ping go out? Do we get

know you're the tag isn't lit. But

I I thought I did it. Okay, well I did

five three now. I mean, it's the tag is the tag still says pending? Now.

I understand but I thought I had posted with the live tag a fault. Okay, then it should go in a moment.

gotta bust the cache. I sent you a picture of my my thing did you

see that? I don't know if I want to see a picture of your thing. We're

talking about sausage. You figured it was appropriate

this Oh wow. You need to put that in the chat.

Well, you can you put it in the chat because you're way to go. Yeah, yeah.

We are. We are disaster. We are different. We are different men. I mean, the picture of my thing is very different from the picture of your thing.

Okay, help it I need my mic arm is much longer than your mic.

i Yeah, yeah, man. You're right on the edge. You got no room?

The lie is horrible. It was so bad.

I do love the bedside lamp. accessory.

Oh to the lamp getting the pig.

Oh yeah, the lamp guarding the pig. I like that. That's a very that's very nice. I like that as an accessory. And that is

how my mouse is directly under the arm that's when I start hitting the arm I'm like it it's sagging time to time to tighten up

bro. Surely you surely could get a little more space than this.

I'm in literally in a closet.

I I've been there many times. For years and years I was podcasting from the clue to remember that was my closet the cluding

Claudio Yeah, this you know the GC this DC the shelf? This above directly above the monitor? Yes. Does it shelves? Yes, that's a shelf and with bins on it. Oh, okay. That is another shelf. And above that is another show.

I'm gonna put these in the show notes since people Like what is going on with these guys talking about? So here's what I learned. All right, first of all, just to reiterate, doing video on YouTube is the trend of podcasting. Remember that it's the trend. What do you say? No, it's the trend. Don't fight the trend. Don't fight all the people who just called up YouTube. That's a podcast. Don't fight the trend. If you fight, you're gonna lose, you're gonna lose, you're gonna lose out. The

That's what I'm saying. Podcasting is boring right now. It's just the all of it is boring. So

here's what I here's what I learned on the new media show. That and this of course, in your you recall, we went to the second and only and definitely the last time I've ever been to a podcast conference. You and I went to Dallas and we had a session. Where did

you use it? Second only and last time? Second was I tried? My brain was like,

hey, video, okay, just video. My brain is on video mode. Okay, sir. The second time I've ever been. No, I think it's the first and only No, it's the first and only time of No, no. The first one was the award. No, the New Media Expo. I've been to that. Okay. So this was, but this was the Podcast Movement. And what did they do? And people are surprised when I see you know, yeah. Hey, you know, we did a thing and we talked about podcasts in Tupelo who was the keynote? No, no, they put us in

We didn't pay. We didn't put any Hey, no. Did it behind the lunchroom? Yeah. And

this is what a just a reminder, the very first podcast, conference tooth, I want to say it was 2007 Maybe. And, and the guys who set that up did for him. I think they did the New Media Expo initially. And I think it was in Vegas. I think I can't remember so long ago. They said would you do the keynotes like yeah, you know, I really don't like doing conferences. But yeah, I'll do the keynote. Okay. So and you'll need to buy a gold sponsorship. What? What now? I heard the

Well, Sam, Sam says he wants to do like an online thing. Did you say that?

Yeah. This is what I suggest that I said, Why don't we do it online? Do it live and lit? And, and now I saw Benjamin Bella Bellamy jump in and say, let's do it in Paris. Okay,

in Paris. Yeah, he pays.

I think it should just be online, make it live. Make it value for value charge? Nothing. I mean, it'll cost some time to organize it. But everyone can do it from home. Now, what more do you need? Isn't this? I mean, if you want to go and hang out and drink with people and spend money then yeah, go to let's go to the go to the movement. Go to the move.

I would. Oh, yeah, I would definitely hang out on a live on a live thing. Or do a session or whatever. That sounds like fun. I mean, I think I think having you know, like doing a an event where there was a there's like a few hours where different people teach different parts of podcasting. 2.0 That sounds fun. And

yeah, into so many questions. Yeah, I mean, how do I set up my wallet? I'm a musician. How do I do it? I mean, all these are great things I was just hearing on the live stream before we start I was listening to unrelenting with Darren and Jean. And, and, and so Darren, he's like, okay, now I have I have my Umbral set up. I got my liquidity. I got my SATs going back and I was like, Wow, you really went out I said,

You know, if we did, if we did, that, maybe that's where maybe that's where I can, or we or somebody, you know, maybe that's where the community can help is by doing some sort of instructional content, like little short, little short videos, or something like that, that could be embedded on the podcast, podcasting today. We know that about each

little thing, the best. The best place for this is with the podcast hosting companies. And I find personally, if I look at RSS blue.com, and pod home.fm, those guys, they're doing a pretty good job. They've got some pretty decent explanation of what to do you want if you're a musician, I can send you to RSS moo.com/music. I can all seem to wave Lake. But if you just want to go learn about it, it's really not there. I don't think that's our job, Adam and Dave's

two.org. Though that's I've always thought that was more I thought that what triggered that whole thing was the was to try to instruct people like people within the podcast world. Like people like though the one the hosts of the feed. That they said that they didn't know anything about podcasting to Dotto.

Well, when I come in and that says, upgrade to podcast namespace. As just the podcasts are my eyes are rolling in my head already.

Can we put a pin in that, by the way? Yeah, sure.

I'm not I'm not saying that anyone's doing a bad job on this. It's just that I thought it was going to be marketing oriented and doesn't really feel like that.

Yeah, well, because I want to come back to least it's something you said upgrading to the podcast namespace reminded me of a comment on pod news weekly review about about replacing the items.

Not do that right now. I just heard that. And they had more complaining, oh, they'll make complaints and more. I'll lead you into complaints about pod news weekly review. So the complaint I had is, it was a little unclear because I guess they had some conversation about music and Spotify and whatever. And on the last episode, and they must have cut that out or I don't know, it was a little confusing. But then James said, If I heard him right, he said, you know, this

that was a genius move on their part. Yep, he does. And

for journalists, I don't know James, like, Oh, we're not talking about I don't know why that was just something weird. It's almost sound like Spotify and called said, Don't you dare talk about remove your Spotify account? I don't know what it was, it was something weird.

Is their marketing guy? Well, that's for sure.

And, and so I come across this, this video on AIX, I thought it was so appropriate. Because as usual, we're right on time with this stuff. So

the second round, coyotes have hit universal. And last week, it was Interscope. This week, it's capital. And I want you to notice the divisions that they're cutting. I mean, they are cutting out whole divisions. And it's from the executive to the street level. And it's mostly in radio promotion, and marketing, and creative. So what does that mean? Record companies are going tech taking all of the personal element out of it very slowly. And if radio doesn't feed the

Completely agree. This is exactly where we're at.

What was this? What is that just here?

So this is a music label guy talking about the cuts that are taking place at add labels. And you know and so it's it's It's the entire vertical. It's from the executive. It's all the radio division. So, you know, how was radio always traditionally worked was it's the discovery mechanism. And kids aren't listening to Radio anymore. You're not discovering new music on radio.

You're just discovering Sirius XM numbers. Oh, no, I did that was brutal. No, I

did not. Oh, they lost

like half a million subscribers in the first quarter. But

they must have had at least a billion dollars in podcast advertising because someone has it. It's somewhere in here. It's 2 billion now.

Somebody has the other 1.8 billion. I'm not sure where it is. Somewhere.

I mean, Joe Rogan has a quarter billion so yeah,

cool. Yeah. So 1.8 somewhere. VMs. Hold holding steady, according to. We're good.

So I bring this up on the day. Of course, that is the unofficial one year anniversary of the value time split. Yes, yes. And we played on episode 131. Happy anniversary. Happy anniversary. Especially to Alex gates. But a large hand in this episode 131 of the boardroom, the 131st board meeting, and we play and be for running with that.

got another you got another ball.

I got a ball come and got a ball ready to drop? Because as I

was noticing the other day that that has been well, its

highest. I know it's been busy. I mean, it we got three wars going on China on deck. Man, he's a busy man. I'm busy man. Yeah, exactly.

There's definitely skullduggery going on across the, you know, across all of this, all of the media entertainment ecosystem pair. So Paramount is, looks like they're about to get. They're about to get bid on by Sony. And

apparently, Paramount has been the value was dropped in half. It's about to be purchased in bits and pieces by Laurie Larry Ellison's kid over at Apollo. What is it really worth? Who cares anymore? Someone told me? I was No, I was reading somewhere, whatever you do, don't sell your DVD and blu ray players, because this streaming thing just might not work out.

I'm not that. Not. I wouldn't be surprised if that was right. I mean, that that would not come as a shocker to me. I feel like I feel like we've gone too far too fast.

Well, when we had a lot of money, it was easy. Yeah, I gotta remind people about this.

Everybody started saying that. That bandwidth was no longer an impediment. But that's really not that really wasn't the case. Bandwidth is only not an input is not an impediment only if you have lots and lots of free money. If you have no free money, bandwidth is a real impediment. If you're if you're pushing if you're pushing petabytes of data a day, somebody has to pay for that. And it is not cheap. And

Yeah, I wouldn't say that the that it's as thriving as it was for sure. And I think digital books have a very long future ahead of them.

Sure, I can tell you I can I can. I can name at least half a dozen people that I know of that were all Kindle all the time. And they just churn. Sure. They just they when there's gave up, they just they just eventually it just evaporated onto the shelf somewhere into a drawer. And now whenever they read they read a book. Yeah, you know, it balanced out. So when I guess what I'm saying is like, I'm starting to see it now used

Yes, and I think if you're going to read a book, then I would suggest Neil postman's amusing ourselves to death. Because that's exactly where we're at. We have amused ourselves into oblivion is too much. Just this too much. It's too much. It's too much. And, you know, the idea that we're all going to be discovered through discovery to algorithms. Yeah. Why didn't you need to be on YouTube to be discovered

people are getting people are getting smoked me like the you know, the the unemployment rate. I saw that chart or not the unemployment rate, the hiring firing rate is way down. Yeah. Is the lowest it's been adjust population adjusted. The hiring rate is the lowest it's been since 2016. I mean, it's

bad. Yeah. dwarfs is Cory Doctorow and shoot suffocation. Yeah, yeah,

that's exactly right. True. And then you saw Amazon as speaking of the Alexa stuff and how we've had this, this pullback against. I'm trying to, mentally in the back of my head, I'm trying to label this phenomenon. And I don't know exactly what to call it. But it's this idea that, that we went that we just went way out in front. And now things are balancing back out. Because you know, did you see that? Amazon laid off like, get rid of almost all their Alexa team? Oh, yeah,

let me tell you, let me tell you, let me tell you. I got I got a clip here for you, too, about the AI hype cycle. Okay. For me, the joke always is, if we only had more power, more compute power, it would work if we had more compute power. Right? We need more chips, more compute power, then it then it won't make mistakes, then it won't hallucinate. Yes. So Larry Fink is the CEO of Blackrock. And Blackrock is arguably when Larry Fink speaks, people listen, because he's the

These are not audio means which is a fringe podcast, and may

we so these are very smart, forward thinking people because you know, it's wasteful. Polling, an RSS feed is just wasteful. So you know, this beautiful pod pink thing is set up. Now let's see where the AI guys are going with power, see if they're wasting anything. This is Larry Fink.

Because the amount of capital is needed for AI. All the new technology that we've developed, probably in an entirety, was the domain of startups. And the whole ecosystem was, was venture capital, the startups. ecosystem has changed dramatically. AI is a domain of large caps. And I do believe to properly build out AI. We're talking about trillions of dollars of investing. So data centers today can be as much as 200 megahertz. They're now talking about data

he didn't mention climate change in this massive power. I mean, what what is going on here?

went off the rails at the end that I didn't know what like he because

all of a sudden he realizes that he's talking about investing trillions of dollars into stupid compute while people are homeless. They're drug addicts on the street. I mean, there's all kinds of problems we got and all you can think of trillions power anymore power 30 megabytes. 3030 megawatts of power.

Gigawatts gigawatts, gigawatts, and

this is not going to work. This is this is a pipe dream.

No, that's this is this. Yes. Stupid compute. That's exactly what this is that the the idea that this is going to, so Well, here's here's what Microsoft I don't know if you saw this. Such an Adela is memo to Microsoft. No. Such an Adela. is Microsoft memo on putting security first.

Microsoft, okay, yeah, in the DLL is, guys. That's what we need to check.

Microsoft is overhauling its security processes after a series of high profile attacks in recent years security is now Microsoft's quote top priority. The company outline today, in response to ongoing questions from the US cyber safety review boards labeling of Microsoft security culture as inadequate. Oh, boy. So bad reporters? Yes. Such a put out a memo company wide memo. And he said today I want to talk about something critical to our company's future,

we'll fix it with AI, please tell me in

No, no, no. He says that. That is the that is the number one priority at the company. Everything they do is going to be about security going forward. Going forward, we will commit the entirety of our organization to our secure future initiative. And he says security as if you're faced with the trade off between security and another priority, your answer is clear. Do security. Okay, this was six months ago, you could have written written this same memo to say GPT. Yeah,

five. And you could kind of see that because once podcast hosting companies were touting this as great features to have you kind of knew that was the I mean, we honestly and I say this with love, but podcast hosting companies, we're at the bottom of the barrel of tech. Now, so when it gets down to yeah, we've got AI, it's like me on this, like, we've got ham radios, too,

is sort of like people used to always say about Birmingham, by the time we get like a new trendy restaurant thing. It's already it's already three years. Yeah, yeah. And we got the Make your own yogurt shops. It was like, you know, they were already going in California. And

I think I said this last week, I just want to reiterate, I understand the hosting business. And it's it's not an easy business. And I appreciate I love seeing that huge list that Spurlock put together of all you know, the percent you know, market share of whatever, OPI three market share of hosting companies must mean 300 companies before he

They bow just partnered with a Moon Bay, that will really

elevate Moon pay. Oh, that makes them look official, then this is good.

There's there's a lot of good onboarding stuff on everything.

single time I show somebody streaming SATs coming in. And I can show it on my my Zeus app from a wallet. Of course, you don't see the booster grams, or I show using heli pad. That's what gets people excited. Like, wow, so wait, so that someone listening right now, so yeah. And they're sending me a little a little fraction of value for the for for, for what I do. That gets people excited, invest in that. Invest in that. And everything else like, Oh, it's just a penny

But and also the advertising. Look, go back. I think we talked about it last week. Spotify has monthly active users as a share of revenue, the premium users the meaning the users that pay their revenue. It was it was like 80% of their revenue came from the paid users, not the ad supported users. That's ad supported users was 10x. Lower. So as far as revenue goes, so I mean, like paying for things instead of

and I just want to come back to podcasting and the hosting companies. Because it's so it's just so destructive what I see taking place, because everyone's talking about YouTube. And it's not about video. It's about YouTube. Okay, let's just let's just call it what it is. You want to do video, most video but most podcast apps do video, Apple podcast does video. But no one does video because very few companies offer it. And it's not as easy as uploading to YouTube.

Now the I've got a good tip finalized formalize the publisher tag in namespace today. Yeah. So that's a lot. That's that's live. That's up. Go good. And I think I think that's something that hosting companies can take advantage of, I think the podcasting 2.0 podcast and 2.0 is about one of the things that we try to do is provide new features for hosting companies to use. We are the we are where we are the at the index is the apps best friend, podcasting. 2.0 is the is the

think that's a great description. I really love that, unfortunately, that we're just gonna have to wait until everyone has gotten the YouTube thing out of their system. Because yes, and you know, YouTube buys articles in the New York Times with YouTube booming podcast creators get camera ready. Yeah, you know, it's like, once you get over that, once you get over that then we'll still be here. Now we saw podcasting stagnate for a decade because everyone's like Boo, boo Apple, Boo Oh, The Youth

Club and clubhouse was the hottest thing since sliced house. About a year another

perfect example. All clubhouse. Oh, yeah, this is the future. Bye, guys.

Yeah, and then when nobody and then when everybody bails out and goes out the back door, everything goes back to the way it was. Yeah. And the same thing is gonna happen with YouTube if, if as long as the hosting companies resist the urge to play ball,

no, but they're playing ball Dave they're all playing ball. They're all playing ball. And one way or the other one way or the other. Even Todd is playing ball with you to tots

said they could you know that he will never play at all he's

playing ball. You can now buy an account on blueberry for your YouTube channel. And then

the videos out Yeah. And it's played people out.

playing ball.

He's doing Oh, he's no, he's trying to pull people out

even though it was my idea. He's also doing the the alternate enclosure for the YouTube embed people playing ball. But it's more of the the overall idea. And it's also I'm not, I'm not ashamed to say it. But if you don't have an RSS feed is not a podcast, and people can jump up and down and say curry no one cares what you say. And you're probably right. But YouTube is not a podcast. And you'll find out. If a F Oh.

Faith O, F A F O what is what is F? A F O

F around and find out? Oh, f a f? Oh, yes. Yeah. You'll find out? You'll find out? It's

not? So

first viral up?

Spiraling? Yeah, I guess I am. It's like, what are we doing? Stop, you know, everyone's just running around trying to get some some money somewhere. Focus people focus.

I think this comes from the I think this comes from the having lived through the people who are who were in town, I think the people who are in blogs, I don't think this necessarily affected the podcast world very much at the time. But the people who were in like us who were part of when Google Reader died, who were building RSS based software. Before, you know they were mostly in the blogosphere not in podcasting

and mine ourselves. The rug poll came with a replacement, which was I think Google Plus, was that what it was? Or was it Google Wave or any number of products, circles

and all that friend circles?

So it's, I just

think we have a different perspective than maybe some people in the podcasting world, because that never really hurt them that bad. Because podcasting is its own had its own route. They weren't they weren't really affected by Google Reader. But if you lived through that, you saw how tumultuous it was and how it almost killed the whole, the whole use of the protocol. And it makes you not trust Google in

So along with that comes, I'm glad you brought up blogging, because we're seeing the same thing now with blogging companies, as we did with blogging companies. You know, you can get ads, you can get banners, you'll make money. You can do subscriptions. You know that all went away. Feedburner? Well, there's that there's that.

But we chose a way of putting ads into dynamic ad insertion, right? Yeah. But my

point is, it's not like a magical thing, you start a podcast, you you do something, and then you get advertising. If you know, there's a lot of crap. Not everyone deserves to make money. Not everyone should be making money. Some stuff should just be crap. It's okay. Yeah, crap is good, too. But this whole, like all these promises, now it's going to be this and that and grow your show. Just do your podcast, have fun.

So I guess what I'm trying to say is the public the publisher feeds thing, I think, is an example of one thing that that hosting companies can adopt. Now, if you have a note, I know quite a few hosting companies have have customers that publish a bunch of different feeds, you know, they have a business customer that may have four or five, six or more feeds is publishing a pode creating a offering them a publisher feed, that wraps all their their normal feeds into

yeah, better display, etc. And I'm excited about Yeah, yeah, I'm very excited about that.

Because that's one thing, that that's one thing that the more closed systems have, that we don't is the ability to sort of do better aggregation. On, you know, on the receiving side. Because we, you know, think about something like, you know, Apple, Apple podcasts, their directory, they have a lot of visibility that we don't have, they know who's

I hope the apps will implement it. I don't think anyone's except for Sam Sethi, whatever I say on the show, Sam, we know you do. You're doing it. Burn. blog roll, pod roll. No.

Yeah, no, no, I don't I don't know if the I'm not sure what's being implemented because we don't a lot of the open a lot of the open. Sea open. I'm not sure that's the right term. Like, people like Pocket Casts have, they have a PR mechanism in place. I mean, they put out press releases that kind of thing. People like, like Mitch and Franco and Jason ever podcasts, they don't really have, they don't do a lot of that kind of thing. I mean, they

the music. Yeah. Oh, later. Yeah, sure. For sure. Good.

Yes. I mean, we're, we're getting I mean, I think we're, you know, now now No, and that failure on the, on the hosting side. I mean, it's, it's,

I mean, I see energy going into things and stuff like AI and all that. I'm like, let's put it into you know, doing things that work that have that have a future and it's not some you know, add on strap strap on stuff. It's just strap on.

I think we could I think we can I think the best thing we can do is just complain. complain.

complain? Oh, hell Kraus. Yes. Yeah.

Right. Yeah.

I don't want to be too negative.

Okay. Moving beyond our, you know, THEC, Brawl raging at everything going on and podcast and

other shows who actually, by the way, I love these shows. I cannot not listen to these shows. Yeah, but I'm, like, I'm tired of boosting back my feedback. It's like, I gotta show we complain about it here.

So do you want to talk about the iTunes namespace real quick?

I only if you'd let me play the jingle.

And now it's time for some hot namespace talk.

Yeah, there's two things we got to talk about.

Okay. Well, I mean, I've got I may have one other.

Well, then go ahead. No,

I want to hear your list. Your two port list?

Well, the one is, okay. First, I guess a misconception that popped up. I don't think either of us have ever said that the podcast namespace should be replacing the iTunes namespace I don't think that was ever said. So where were they came from? That's that's a misconception. I think we've ever said that. The concept of a drop in replacement. For I think specifically the block tag we may have discussed. Which is which immediately becomes my the

Let's take the second one first. The block the block tag. I can't ignore it completely. Because there are some of our hosting friends that really depend on us honoring that. The iTunes and water. Yeah. Yeah. And so I can talk to them over time and switch across

question. They want us to honor it because they're allowing people to create an iTunes block tag.

Yes, so they use an a one in particular uses it for private feeds. So they have a private feed. It's for like a member ship type thing. They'll put an iTunes blog tag in the feed. Now this this is we've we've talked about the problems with it in blog tag in you know, ad nauseam in the past it's it The it's just it's just, it's the worst. It's just the worst.

Well, it seems like using the iTunes block tag to signal that you have a private feed is not a great way to do it.

No, it's not because but it's the only thing that had been until we created the podcast blog tag, there's

right well, maybe, maybe maybe seven, said hosting company can change something so we can move forward sounds seems like someone's holding us back in this.

Yeah, I think going forward, we need to encourage people to use a better tag, which the podcast block tag is better in every way. Because you can just get granular and you can be specific and all that kind of thing. Because the one of the biggest problems with iTunes block tag is that is that people don't know, everybody handles it differently. And then everybody that puts it in there thinks it's going to be handled in a certain way. And that's not the case. So there's a huge

That's a health a health guy. So it's a pretty big podcast.

And so he's got iTunes blog tag in there. So we honor that, and we block it. And it's, and yet it shows up in like tons of other apps, even on Apple even in their app. And that just doesn't seem right. So what I'm going to do, as an interim fix for this is I'm going to I'm going to flag the database differently so that we can mark manually. In cases like this, we can mark that this. This particular podcast combined

in this case, we're hurting. Well, specifically, we're hurting pod verse. Yeah, because he says, MC says it's a lot of their users are saying, Hey, how come I can't get this? And that's a reason someone would not use that app. Yeah, I guess and

so and so that I can give Mitch admin access on the podcast in this dashboard.

Very bad idea.

I retract it, I take it back. You're not getting that Miss. So that's an easy fix, I think should be able to get that done this week. Replacing the iTunes namespace. I don't exactly know this details of what we said in the past. But I can tell you what my thought what my mind what my mental ideas have been for that. Or my mental framework for that has been since the beginning. Replacing the items namespace is is not a goal.

Oh, which drinkin show beer? No. Yeah, Waterloo, peach.

Oh, that's pretty good. Actually. Replacing that to his namespace is not a goal. Maybe you could call it like a design ambition. Or just go goal makes it sounds like it makes it sound like it's one of the core purposes of of the namespaces existence or the work and that's that's not really the case. It's not the goal to replace the iTunes namespace. It's an ambition that that we're designing for. We like we need to make it an easy transition if that ever becomes a thing that

that's interesting. Before you continue, okay, so what you're saying is we would want we want to have replacements in case for some reason the iTunes namespace wasn't supported or I'm not sure what you think what happened.

But podcasting 2.0 is more than just the namespace. The podcasts podcasting. 2.0 is is a community of people trying to make sure that podcasting technology is in the hands is is open and in the hands of people and not companies. I

love that and YouTube

So in that vein, we ultimately don't want namespaces that are critical to the way podcasting works. To be controlled by private companies. We we don't, that's not what we want, we want it to be when you want something that's critical to it. If there's something at this critical to podcasting, infrastructure or technology, we as podcasting 2.0. Want one Shane changes to that thing to be done by communities of people, not private companies, meeting in private boardrooms.

block Yes, block blogs keyword block.

NPR wanted to add an attribute to the season seasons, yeah. To allow you to put a name to name a season, we could have begged Apple to do it for 10 years. And just hoped that one day they listened and did it. Yeah. Or we could just duplicate that tag, make sure it's backwards compatible with the iTunes version, and then modify it ourselves while maintaining the backwards compatibility, which is what we did. And if we

Okay. Well, I'm glad we had this conversation, because although I have not seen it, it is my understanding that from the partners weekly review that James Cridland was out there fighting with people in the GitHub saying no, this tag already exists. It's iTunes tag, and you don't need to recreate this. So that's that. So there's a disconnect there.

I, I would agree with him in this sense. If there's nothing we can offer, as an improvement on that tag, I see no reason to duplicate it. Copy that. Yeah. But if we can off if if there's a clear thing, that will be an improvement to that tag, I don't mind duplicating it, because the only here's the only you got two options. Okay, it's like okay, we have this tag, block tag. This thing is not sufficient. It is not doing a job, the job that is designed for it's a it is a

the perfect example of that as category. Right. as we as we move to more freeform categories and

Don't think no, no, I don't think we're going to I don't think we're going to conflict with the category tag. I think I think what we're doing is going to be something else it's going to be I don't think it's going to be a direct conflict because we're, we're more this is what we're doing is going to end up being more like the key words. Yeah. Yeah. I think yeah, I

think they'll live together. Okay. Or in harmony in perfect harmony.

Evany. So, I think, but then the third option is the option that we don't want to do. And I don't is a hostile takeover that seems namespace.

Yeah, no, we don't want that. That's no fun. No, we

don't, we don't want to start saying, you know, adding things to, to the iTunes namespace. So you know, without their permission, but I'll tell

you, I have a sneaky suspicion that one day in the future, it may be within this 10 day, 10 year timeframe. I could easily see the European Union forcing Apple to divest of podcasts and and have that something that is not pre installed anymore. Yeah. And, and you know, and there'll be options for people to choose. And that may negate their power over many things.

I'll go one step further. I would not be surprised if at some point in this 10 year period, some people may think I'm crazy, but I don't think I am. If Ted Hoffman calls up and says, Hey, we want to merge the iTunes namespace with the podcast namespace. Wouldn't surprise me one bit. Merge merge the two things together. What

would the benefit be? Why? Why would they want to do that? And I mean, by that I 10 horsemen really needs to think about retiring and he's going to be 100 by the time that happens,

he's already let's have you seen his beard?

Interest. Interesting. Interesting. vaad.

Yes. I mean, I can see it in book because there's I can't remember that podcasting doesn't make apple any money. You know, it's a it's really the last labor of love within the company. Is the last like, throwback to an old apple. that existed, you know, for, for ideals bigger than just money for

the people. For the people. For the crazy. What for the crazy ones?

The Crazy Ones? Yeah, it's this. This is an old, this is an old, this is a vestigial organ that's attached. Just

to kind of divest a little bit from it and feel like it's been put in a good place. Hey, those two Yahoo's that sounds like a good idea. Let them maintain it all.

Yeah, and that means that means we we have to have staying power is gonna, you know, we got to stick around long enough for for people to see that. That podcasting. 2.0 is the right place to house something like this is a trusted in is a trusted community where this is going to be taken, taken forward? Because I don't know that they're necessarily in I mean, they don't get anything out of the items namespace been,

our overall mission is. Yeah, our

mission is not letting podcasting be owned by huge corporations. So it has to be part of it

right now. A little gear switch. Yes, sir. Eric peopIe. I saw some pull requests going back and forth. It looks like there's a new version of helipad coming which will allow me to set up pew pew custom pew pew sounds Yeah. Did you Did you see that? I did.

Um, he is he's on fire with the Health Analytics site.

So so so that will mean that we can have a secret boost number. And if you boost with the right number, bells and whistles go off and then you get a prize? No, that's gonna be nice stuff like that. I'm excited about that. I'm very excited.

Do we need to,

which is kind of the start of something you said like ratifying all this great stuff. And there's still stuff that happens in IRC that, you know, we really have no idea how to access and it just shows up and people turn stuff on booths, bots, and all that stuff. I mean, I feel somehow like Halle pad is a great place to put a lot of that functionality, they can go back out. So I'd love to be able to have heli pads say, Okay, you connect your IRC here. And what I mean

yeah, that'll be that'll be cool. Because that you can basically run your own booth spot.

Yeah, yeah, exactly.

I think he said you could sideload he said he's got a not fully tested version that you can sideload Yeah,

but whenever I sideload then then you know, then my start nine doesn't know that. You know, there's a new version and then I have to go back and have to reload every single boost. From the moment my node went up. That's kind of a downer. Like loading the blockchain. Oh, by the way, dude, I got want to mention that I got one of those was called the Founders Edition of the what's that thing called? It's a bid to a future bid. Future bid. Have you heard these guys? No

Did you get the

Apollo two? Yes. Founders Edition. Cool. Yeah. And it does like seven seven Tera hashes Giga second flop. Whatever. GSPs Yes. At 190 watts.

That's been published to is the culmination of news pretty

good. And

as a miner Yeah, it's a mining rig.

Yeah, it's a mining Yes. You can hook it up to I'm just running it solo I'm gonna get me a block

he has so amount of block Oh, yeah,

I'm that guy. I'm going to be that guy who's gonna mind his own block? For sure. Yeah, it's made in America is here up to 10 Tera hash hash power

Oh, you got the fat Oh, you founders of this. So what's the founders the Founders Edition shipped first? Yeah, limited run. Oh, it's oranges in Bitcoin? Yeah,

it was like burn dark orange. Yeah, no, it's beautiful. It's a minor that you don't put in the garage. It's really interesting.

What is the difference between a standard and a full node? Minor plus full and minor only version of a price simply plug in your?

Yeah, if you want to solo I think you got to have a full node.

Oh, yeah. Okay, I'm on two bucks that's that's a lot cheaper than an ant miner

Oh yeah. I'm on a I'm on a so um I'm on a pool right now because it comes of course without the blockchain so you gotta download the blockchain that always takes a few days. And but once that's done full on SoLoMo baby

so LaMonte your own pre installed stratum solo pool

that's right you want to join my pool?

Wait so that's about to ask you so if I got one you want to connect to your pool? Yeah,

we can we yes we can mind together honey. Oh, think of it right. Think of the opportunity think of the community we could build

think of the think of this the home heating capacity. Yeah, right. Deliver a No kidding. That's got an HDMI port on the side. I'm

telling you it's a full on Ubuntu install and instead of a desktop? Well, it kind of looks Yes. And it kind of weird that I do that wrong. Someone else I thought was future bit Future.

Future bit.io/home is where I'm at. Yeah,

I post that in the I posted that into the

connected monitor to it or configure over Ethernet automatically start sinking a full Bitcoin node. It

looks a bit like Apple had one of these cubes at one point remember the cube Apple had a cube? Yeah, a little bit like that.

Big is it but I can't see the dimensions.

It's bigger than the Apple cube but it looks nice. Let me look oh, that's kind of a handsome unit.

So that's such a handsome unit. Is there twit is is more like, is it like 12 inches by 12 inches or is it more small? wasn't six by six

I'd say seven by seven

oh that's not very big at all

Hey, want to play some music?

I would love to

Okay. So I'm kind of on this Friday thing where like it's Friday how you feel you're ready for a bang Are you ready for banger? Lahoma homeless second let me I found this thing I want to play this something I found this from an old daily source code daily source code thing Hold on a second let me see I've been looking for this in I think the guy who did this died he may still be alive but I love it so much something

remarkable is happening here. Radio is screen free of the regulated gatekeepers who manage what you can hear since radio was invented it's jumping into the hands of anyone at all with something or nothing to say I guess tread water for five times we'll run a video right is the standard and you're gonna be all right enjoy the ride one you're the deal I have no issue that's why you'll never get is gonna be running again it's the

how about that? Yeah, it wasn't I knew you'd like it. Yeah the protagonist death by lions.

quality music on don't value for values is

dynamite. Yeah, I found great. I found that on. sidestream music podcast Cody played it like God is so good. Yeah.

There's great music out there that you can just turn you can turn on any of the music shows? Yeah, unless later really It feels like the radio. Yeah,

exactly. Lm beats you know if you can listen to any of the shows and listen to any all the music.

bug fixes, by the way. I'm glad you mentioned LM beats. Okay.

Oh, yes. Your your API search. Fix bug thing.

Yes. Search fix bugs. The minister. Yeah, thanks. Yeah, I love fixing bugs, especially when it's like, like a suspended chord that resolves you know, your to in endpoints that were affected by this bug. The, they both used the same under relying the function like lower level function, so it all came down to a sequel issue. So the bug was this. And if you asked for if you add it, so it's the episodes by feed ID endpoint. That was that was one of them. And the by

that's what we call a bug Dave, that is recognized as a bug. Yes.

If you asked for 20 episodes, you may get back 16. He asked for 100, you may get back 80. So this is a clear bug. Where it became weird, though, was the way the bug was expressed in the by medium tag. So the by medium tag you if once you got up to like, let's say, if you're LSA, you're asking for all the all the feeds, that were buy that were had music medium. And you say, Okay, I want 2700, you know, like I want I want 3000 feeds, we that wouldn't work, it would just, it would

on a random number. Yeah,

so Well, it turns out, that's the number that would, it was a it was a Stack

Overflow memory leak.

It was a slowly escalating, long running query, that once you got beyond about 2007, sometimes you could go you could go higher. But once you got beyond that the query was taking so long on the database side that it would fail, it would timeout, the API would abandoned would abandon the query. So this ended up being a problem is I don't use an ORM, which is like a build your SQL for you do all the SQL statements by hand because

you're because you're a man.

In assembly, that's right. Is C so what I had, what I didn't realize was it mice, so MySQL does what's called early row lookups. So you can think of a database like this, okay. database table. So think of like an index is like a is like a second table. So you have, so you have a table of data. And the index is almost like a separate table, where the records are pointers, from the indexed columns into to the

very inefficient, highly inefficient.

So what you want is a database that does something called a late row lookups This is

sexy sequel talk with David sexiest sequel,

and this MySQL does not this does not do this. So you have to sort of work around Do you have to finagle MySQL to get it to avoid this issue? Because what if you an imp, a well, a, excuse me a poorly thought out use of something like, group by or order by can trigger this problem where you end up fetching 100,000 rows. And then you actually only deliver 5000 of them. That was the issue here. What was confusing me is, it's been triggered by the way

he was confused about the problem as I am about the explanation.

I had to reverse engineer the explanation after I figured out what the problem was. Okay. What was confusing me is that it was triggered by the ORDER BY clause. So if I if I went in to what was happening is those I was ordering the sequel result by by timestamp on the episodes because you like I don't know wasn't ordering it by the primary index. Primary Key is ordering it by the timestamp, because that's a more accurate record of ref reflection of the chronological order of the of

how many? If you ask for what what did you expect again?

If you ask for seven fees 20 episodes, you expect to get 140

I need 120 episodes. You got me all worked up with your sexy sequel.

This is the way you don't fall asleep

as Ray. Don't fall asleep.

Called nein nein Nein. Sexist SQL.

This is how you entertain yourself by fiddling with buttons.

Oh no. I went to a whole website. I searched for porn music. I was pre listening. I'm like, Oh, this is not this is not quite it and like, Oh, this is the one this is the white. There we go. I

especially always tell when you let when you listen to slipping. You're like oh, sorry, guys. I'm always telling you. I love how it started though. Dave

got to be more that sexy sequel talk. baybay

I'm fresh out. I used it all on YouTube. Wow. That's too bad that's it. Oh, that's it. Period. End of story.

I pay for that. I pay for that music vital. I don't have you know, no. Yeah, I

paid for. Well, I

have I pay for a music service. Absolutely.

What service days?

Oh, I just closed it. I use the one I use here. What's it called? It's like a like an annual. What's the core elements? And vado in vado.com envato.com? Oh, you're sexy soundtracks? Yedlin photo.com.

Really getting your money? We're getting your money's worth. Yeah.

It's like even. That's where I got our show theme from this. I bought that.

Oh, yeah. So your music? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. In vado elements. Oh,

man. All right. So do we have anything else that we must cover today?

I had on my list for the open podcasts? Yes.

I had that on my listing. I actually had it up pretty high, actually.

But that's fine. We can kick it to next week. The

open podcast API specification. You were thinking of building a reference server.

Yeah, and I did some more research on it this week. And we come back to next week. I mean, this this file isn't there's no rush on that.

I guess not. Do we have a guest next week? We have a we got a guest coming up. Who do you have next week?

We do we have Eric from the our podcast the Eric built the the podcast dashboard for us the one that shows all the duplicates and all the issues? Yes,

yes. Yes. Yeah. What else? What else is Eric do white does the our podcast.

He does the art. Our pagar is a programming language. that's used a lot for like stats and scientific analysis. Yes, we

have. We have interesting people. For sure. Really have interesting people. Eric, Eric, oh, he's always in the board of Eric.

Bring your bathing suit. Eric will put you into a hot

a hot tub. I didn't know the boardroom even had a

way the only boardroom with a hot tub.

How do we afford that? Well, it's

more like a warm tub. It's not really hot. It's warm. We can't heat it up that much. It's more like

room temperature.

And let's thank some people. We got been hearing boost going on throughout the entire show. Let's see what we got. Well, right there. We have a 5000 SATs from our podcasts from Eric. That's our dash podcast pouring out one for Google Reader. He says it was my first gateway to consuming RSS content. Excited for our dive into the pie dashboard next week. Yeah, me too. I love that when this Go ahead.

It sounds like a podcast about pirates, right? The our podcast

or? Yeah, I love it that we just delayed talking about something long enough until someone will finally give up and come on the show to talk about it.

Oh man, you blew my he you've exposed my

strategy and strategy. Dred Scott who has been indeed has been doing gifs in our chapter art which is looked dynamite. I'm sorry, not Dred Scott. Dred Scott has just weighed today. Yes, Dred Scott. Yes, dread. I'm so confused. You had a Brett you just had a bad brain. Yeah. Why is because of the lukewarm tub. That's what happened. Yeah, heat water, low heat. Now he's been doing crazy things with. With the with the gifs kinds of gifs I think that people are making me GIFs. Now I

I'm glad that Drib is dabbling. He's sticking his toe in the water. He's

done. We'll put that into the boardroom there. 3333 from Eric peepee. And Erica boosted that for the protagonist. Remember, when you're boosting a song can always go back and you can always rewind and even pause it and boost. Remember to tell them where you heard Tom got into podcasting to point out 5000 SATs from Sam Sethi. Nice to see in the version Oh dot one dot 11 of heavy pad and now have the true fans logo. It's nice to see the true fans logo pop up.

it's on their GitHub. It's on wave legs

GitHub. Yeah,

I think there's a link to it in the category in the podcast, category television thread. Good.

Another 5000 from Sam Sethi. The iTunes namespace is not open. It's controlled by Apple. They can change it but everyone else can't. If we want to add their category list we can ask but they can and will refuse. Sam Sam big fan of Apple big fan of apps now these days? Yeah. And another 5000 SAS from Sam Sethi. He's clearly hit the Pinot Noir everybody. He's up late. He's drinking. We have enabled artists feeds with that.

lead that Stephen has slowed down a little bit because he was he was going too fast. He

was like yeah, he was burning up on reentry. Yes.

Yeah. He's losing towels.

I look quick chat with him this week. He's doing good. He's doing he's doing good. We're very happy. Another 4567 from dribs got chapters may be a bit delayed. He says I have a very busy weekend starting at noon today until late Sunday. Hoping to squeeze in chapters somewhere in there. You know what? Drip family first brother it's all good. Yeah, he does so many chapters for so many different podcasts that I'm happy they happen at all. Thank you but

honestly really shameful for everybody for everybody and

everybody who contributes in any way time talent treasure

71 anybody to burn out?

No 1776 from salty cray on Good afternoon boardrooms and positive notes Survival Guide got her track bad little seed used in a UK show coming out as the intro V for V music is working go podcasting Survival Guide. Oh, I know survives she is wow. Hold on a second. So Survival Guide. I think she's an Austin, musician. Survival Guide homeless second. I am using the ever effervescent split kit to search for this. Always takes a second because it's getting all those. It's

I promise something. Maybe I didn't deliver.

What's the title of it? It's bad little seed that little seed

Survival Guide is Emily from San Antonio. Yes

yes yes yes That's Chris on death dreams I think bad little seed Okay, hold on a second do you mind if I just we just check it out for one second. Hit it. Oh, I'm fast I'm not that fast there we

go.

Please please

please stand the time

horrible what you're doing here okay this is bad Lucy who oh yeah I played this on on the ball keep it out plays me Yeah, that's good and you can boost that even that little bit you can boost

okay, you split kidded that right you spliced it right in I

did. Excellent. Well, V for V music is indeed working and then all of a sudden we get a 45,678 boost from Trump's got the Bruce Wayne of podcasts in 2.0. And he says appreciate all you guys do special shout out to Steven B sovereign feeds that made it possible to start my podcasting by osmosis osmosis project excitedly named Dred Scott stuff. We're

dribbling it need help on the naming front?

No, I like it. I like Dred Scott stuff.

Where I've been posting ISOs I've created over the years he's like, there's like 20 episodes. Check it out. Just try and boost before your app ends or switch it to the next episode. Literally. Each episode is an ISO. Thanks to all those that have been answering my questions. Hashtag go podcasting. Thank you, brother. For an intense that's from anonymous. I'm sorry. 808 from blueberry. There we go. On May 22. I'll be demoing a lit RSS feed feed for the Minnesota

No, we've got no one off pay pals. Whoa, this week. Yeah, yeah, it was slow,

slow and slow. You know, April, April is a bad month for value for value. DeVore economic we're looking at it. It turns out every year for 16 years. April is a is a very slow month and I'm talking about it's a number of donations. Just purely the number of people but it has to do with taxes as with all kinds of different stuff, but it's always been a tough month.

So it was a big one big cancellation of the month that came in and then another smaller cancellation of a month came in so we it was definitely a

hard times. Hard times

are tiring lows levels it's 27 things right hard. Yeah, it's I don't know things are hard but they will get we definitely have booster grams that we got Chad F Jed Ferro 3333 from found he says I missed this live because I was waiting around for Joe Martin's concert to go live. That's right. We can Yeah, did last week. Yeah,

I did see some of it. I saw some of the concert just a little bit. Look good Paul.

airson 10,001 SATs that's a 101012 found and he says retro boost. Here's today's Adam Can you hear me? Yeah. When the power went out on episode 176 That was so I was laughing for a few minutes. I

was safe y'all it was mean it was mean.

4000 SATs from Rp 1984 or 4000 He's to fountain he says boost boost. Who essential Richards from just listening. One One on One through fountain he says I can hardly even get through the first clip. Cat GPT sounds like a feline explaining how she is going to eat your balls while you slumber and why you should be happy about it.

Right. Carrie,

thanks just listen, Sir Brian of London 21 948 Wow. Through cast ematic Thank you, Brian. Appreciate that. No, no, no, no. Bucha he's gonna He's gonna He's gonna notices hive beats both noster and activity pub and one crucial respect. You don't need the hosting company or podcaster to host their own hardware. Podcasting. 2.0 hasn't paid for pod being hosting in two plus years just saying

is that because it's self sustaining or is Brian paying for it? I don't understand.

It's got something something to do with hive staking that I don't understand. Like somehow you stake a portion of hive and then it just does something okay as

long as as long as Brian's not paying for anything I've

asked him multiple times and he says that it's that he's not that it's not costing him any money okay, that's all it's got something to do with like I don't understand staking in general but it's got something to do with like you stake this much

guy you put some money up you put some money in

and then as long as it stays there like it just keeps rolling or something they he can explain it to me and I'll I'll do it and I will return the information. Okay. Karen for the mere mortals podcasts that's a Richards 1111 He says I don't think my last live boosts got through Oh no. Guys I'm worried after all that gunfire the ad safety human SLAs are going to block and do monetize you I'm going I'm going over and enabling auto downloads on Apple to help you out you're welcome

hook us up man smash that like button switch on Apple's auto download hook us up brother you really help us a lot thanks man.

Sir Oh sir Bill 100,000 sets Whoa That

deserves a shot caller 20 is blades on am Paula

and come on in sir bill. Come on into our onto our room temperature to join us to tap into join us. Does he have a Baba Baba Baba booster Graham.

He says boost your favorite podcasts. Exclamation point.

Boosted with an exclamation point.

Boost. Thank you, Bill.

Thanks. Let's see tip. Top. Top is

everybody loves a tepid tub. And usually Costello Hey Ainsley. Do fountain she sends boost 2500 boost to to the artists lesson who what did we play last week? For the song we played I can't remember this

song we played last week. It was sweet cheeks the velvet axe.

Okay, yeah. So she boosted that. Oh, she says heard it on the board meeting.

Ah, there you go. That's how you do it. Thank you. Thank you. Ainsley.

Karen comes back again for another session of Richard's they found and he says cat GPT is super clever, great wordplay. Dave also just crossed a million Sasa support via fountain.

Yeah,

no and I'm gonna give him a bolo. Sakala 20 is Blaze own am Paula and

chyron as you know, when you're a member of the million Satoshi club, you've got a spot in the tap into always

caring, caring, caring goes bareback he's not allowed in this this trunks only tub

out of here. It is overflowing here. It's happened. nasty man.

Says you guys have learned every bit I'm gonna go podcast? Yeah,

go podcast. There we go.

strat s f 167 SATs as part of a boost to high gravity to celebrate the first anniversary of VTn. Nice. Nice night back in Houston. Oh, he

went back and went. Oh, that's perfect. I love that. And it still works. Of course it does. Of course. This stuff will be around forever, man. Huh,

Episode 131 Toilet scroller?

There's some common theme with us. Dave there's bathroom humor everywhere. It's not a toilet. It's a tub. I'm telling you.

It's called childishness. Jean Everett 3333. Through fountain he says I can hear the vocal frost slipping in from the NPR lady. I can hear JCD in my head calling it out. Yeah, no. Yeah, for sure. And we get to delimiter There he is. 26,000 SATs from a broccoli field comic strip blogger, fountain.

Broccoli filled. He's broccoli. He's filled with broccoli. Okay.

He loves broccoli. It gives me gas but whatever. Hi, I'm Adam and Dave, I'd like to recommend a podcast titled unrelenting, which is available at www dot unrelenting dot Show, hosted by Darren who hails from Chicago Warzone in Jean, who was born in Russia but lives now in Texas. This podcast offers a unique perspective thanks to jeans, entrepreneurial background, making it quite intriguing. Additionally, unrelenting serves as the opening act, the fluffer podcasting.

And there it is, thank you very much comics for Bogar unrelenting yoyr for the big show. Yos.

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Yes. Mike. Stan. Exactly.

Well

done. Yeah. That was my early. My early career who know? I just remember this. Yeah, I just remembered this. Oh,

I've got to get clips from this. This somebody please call

called Let me see. Movie. Hot Pursuit.

That's the name of the movie The Hot Hot Pursuit?

Policy. 1987 Let me say we probably have to put in adult movie. adult movie. Ad yeah, there it is. Ad it's on IMDb.

Did you have a credit? Credit? I don't know. Let's find out. Oh, we

gotta find this out. That's gotta be Oh,

man. Would it be funny if they had if they had a clip from it? Miss Oh, something. Something went wrong there hyperdrive motivator has been damaged out here we go. And that haven is Little Miss Shirley. Abel Cain was the detective that I don't think I get I don't think I get a credit. There's the director

and you did you did the total overdub and you don't get any credit completely

complete overnight. I don't think I got any credit. No, I they should add me to this though. Oh, man, that

was a crazy thing to do. That's like no you couldn't you're no no.

No, you pay well.

It didn't really matter that much it but it was it was more than just a it was a it was a lot of it was a feature film was a lot of dialogue in this Yeah, bed. It's like a lot of a lot of ready for the dope. Ah,

yeah. Oh, baby.

It's just a lot of that. You could just you could just like, take a few cuts of that. And then just like loop it and I

and I remember, be sure I'll just finish up with this. That's right. And that

hey, how did it end?

No, but But I remember that had to do a scene with a female ADR. And it was this beautiful black woman and we're both in the studio moaning instead Just she's like in a in a tracksuit and on my jeans and I just remember how weird it was. Uh huh. Yeah. Yeah, baby it was it was

was very very very weird. This

was the the music video for Sweet Emotion. That's what it reminds me of with, you know, music video. Yeah, the end of the video the lady ironing and she's doing the phone sex. Yes. Yeah.

That's kind of what it was. It's kind of what it was. I have not talked about that in at least 30 years and why would you obviously

yeah, I mean, like, you don't want that. Get out of the bag. Oops.

I don't I don't think I don't think there's any. It'd be funny if we could still find I probably have the VHS somewhere in my in a box somewhere.

If if we don't get clips of this button next week.

I'll be very disappointed.

Veteran Dutch

man Oh, man. Oh, man. All right. Okay.

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