Episode 174: Nice and Frothy

podcasting 2.0 For April 5 2024, episode 174 were nice and frothy. Well, it's Friday once again time for the board meaning of podcasting. 2.0 everything happening in podcasting. You don't need any other podcast. You don't need pod news weekly review you don't need the new media show. Just kidding. It's a nice little agenda Mr. Ford room the only one that doesn't need an IPO to be public. I'm Adam curry here in the heart of the Texas Hill Country in an Alabama ladies

For clarity I can do neither one of those things.

Wait a minute. Yeah, you're the tax guy.

No, no, I'm the I'm the guy that helps the guys that do the tax.

Okay, okay. I gotcha. I gotcha. How you doing brother?

I'm good and I cannot believe you made it through that intro without without some kind of crazy thing. Coming out of coming out of whatever audio this whatever rig this thing is. Yeah, it is spewing out all kinds of weird stuff. And I know people were frantically boosting to try to get it to do something weird. Yeah, good luck.

We will explain exactly why as we bring on our guests in a little bit in a few minutes. Also for everyone, so you know, we are fresh. Good. Fresh. Good on the show. Fresh good. Fresh, fresh. Oh,

you got a brand new one. Okay. I

had no idea that I needed to have a fresh Gu ID for the live shows. I this was

this was a new good drop.

New good. This wasn't I didn't know I feel dumb. No, no,

don't don't feel that way. Adam should never feel that way about yourself. valuable. I

didn't realize that it you know, it screws up all kinds of things. downstreams it's crazy it

in, you know, on paper.

It's just like a space before a value block is on paper. It should be a prom, but it really isn't.

It's fine. It's, you know, I mean, like, all this stuff is like that. That's the beauty about right. That's the beauty and beautiful thing about writing a spec, you already know that nobody's going to do half of what you say in the spec. So you write if you if you write that, if you write the spec with that in mind, then you know what to leave out and what not to be hung up about. You're like, you know, I'm gonna put this in there, but they're probably not going to do it anyway. So,

so when so when you're writing up a spec, say maybe you're putting something in into into the GitHub for proposal. Where are you already writing are you so you're already writing down the writing stuff and go like no one's gonna do this is you have that when you're doing

it goes further than that. It's not just nobody's gonna do this. I know exactly. Which ones are not which ones are not going to do. I'm like,

oh, you know, you already know why she won't do it.

I'm like Franco will never do this.

Oh, there you go. Thanks, Franco. Going to keep him

I love you Franca.

So a couple of things up front first of all, I'm very happy very I'm a happy man. This was a great week because I had a day off yesterday I did it was weird. It was and you know, yeah, I had a day off but guess what, you know, Tina's like let's go do some stuff or get some shopping together Main Street and that is an exact replica for voice no new media show Todd and Rob were fighting about video again. It was I felt home Yes. I felt ah there we are. It's good. It's

they this is a fail that just tells

me that AI is is not doing its job which as we know from the Amazon walkout store, there's all bogus anyway. How funny was that story?

What is cheaper than a GPU? Nvidia GPU

1000 Indians

you can get seven or eight Indians for the cost of Nvidia 3950 Yeah,

just if you hadn't seen the story, the Amazon is closing its walk out stores. I guess the the the financials didn't make sense. And as it turns out, and I have no idea why this was disclosed. It's crazy. That it wasn't really some fancy AI that is tracking every product you put into your basket and walk out with no it was 1000 Indians. Which sounds kind of derivative to be quite honest.

Like, are you a racist? No.

Oh, yes, there it is racist. Yeah, no. You mean derogatory? It's like, yeah, all of the above it was 1000 people in India is probably probably

a better way to say it. 1000 Indians? Yeah, just

it just sounds wrong. I mean, it reduces them to I don't know, chips I had just doesn't feel good. It didn't feel right. So, yeah, so the so AI of course, is, is and companies now raising $50 billion you know, to make it all work. Don't worry if we can just raise 50 More billion dollars here are their Don't worry, you'll get your money back. Promise. Yeah,

this. We, we live in an interesting period of time where the, it's the free money train went for so long. That now it's, it's been pretty interesting to watch it fall apart. Because no. Like, there's this psychological thing that happens where when something goes on, when you go into cycles, you know, you it's like, you get it, you get the boom,

you know what I was talking with the Vortech about this who's been around longer than any of us. And so he's seen these cycles come and go. And he's on he's on board with me like this is this is bullcrap. But anyway, when you have this is the third cycle of of AI. Now we had a couple and then we had the AI winter and we will have another AI winter. But he feels that usually when you go through three, three cycles, then it

Yeah, like right now. We're not we're not we're not at like full blown. Descent. We're like 20 degrees down bubble.

We were headed 20 degree bubble. I

like that. Yeah, we're like headed down at a slow pace. In the we're in. It's causing all sorts of like weird things to happen. You're getting like, Did you did you see we hadn't really talked about this. I don't think last week. But did you see that kit piece on Andrew Huberman? Yeah, I

don't really. I didn't really I saw it. But I didn't really get I don't really care. It was the New Yorker magazine, I think. Yeah.

And I don't I don't really care. I don't really care that much, either. But I did. I did read it because I saw a couple of references to it. This sounded like it was there might be a couple of intriguing things in there that I generally don't go in for, you know, for just a clear sort of hit pieces. Whether they're true or not, I just don't know does not entertaining to me. But, but I did read it. It is a very long piece. And it's very odd. And what I mean, I don't mean the

And so we published it right away.

Dude, every paragraph was, here's what happened. And here's the response from his from from his people. Here's what happened. Here's the response from his people. I've never seen an error like this is weird. And I guess the reason I'm bringing this up is because like, of course like when you get popular you're gonna get targeted and we will I mean this is just a thing. And all the stuff in it may be true.

what I find. So I'd like to remind everybody of this, you know, the, the idea of growing your show 10,000 downloads, get advertising, but people forget in all this. It's like, it's not like some magic bullet that AI is going to deliver. Or, you know, discovery is going to deliver, you have to have a good product. That's the thing that is rarely discussed without it. I mean, we saw this cycle in blogging. Oh, yeah.

me let me let me guess what I'm what you're gonna say, Okay. Instead of making treats for dogs, you make treats for humans out of dogs?

Damn, that's my next idea. That's a big one. I like that. Yes, it's called Soylent Green for dogs? Exactly. Yes. Yes. No. I said, Why don't you become the Podcast Network? Why not? Why don't you make your brand, the podcast network, and you invite people in. And the whole idea is, it's a social, it's a social thing, where the idea is to have the audience's of these podcasters do stuff to compete. And you know, you can do contests, you can, you know, pretty dog picture, you name it,

It's funny ESA, you mentioned that there was a I was having a thought I was just trying to envision over the past few days, what a like a boost verb would look like. And just, it could be anything, it could be a like, or a star rating or whatever. But I was just trying to think of that in my head. What? Because that's an action too. Yeah, I mean, you're not you're not just following you know, you'd follow up podcast you like a podcast.

Although I find that a little confusing to you. I personally prefer to not confuse booster grams with although How about if you just do to boost verb and a streaming verb? Ie I stream 200 sets per minute, or I boosted this amount without the without the comment part. I'm just trying to separate those two because I think that's very confusing.

Yeah, I mean, number one, we need this is this feels so wrong to have a almost it's as such as consistent discussion about activity pub every week without a jingle to didn't delineate where this you know, when we're doing this, and when we're not. We don't have any hot hot activity pub talk jingle, and it's bothering me.

Well, I do I do. I do have this, if it helps.

That does help. Yeah, helps

it it's not exactly what we want. But it helps, it helps. It's close.

It's almost there. It is. So number two, like, I think I chose the boost. In mentally I think I chose boost for that reason, because it's a little confusing, okay, because I was thumbing through this. Yeah. And I was like, well lit. Why watch us the easy stuff like a like, I mean, that's good. We already everybody knows how to do all that already. But what would it? Because if you let me, let me let me kind of reset

I want something that everybody can participate in and you don't. Okay, two things. One is confusing. What is a comment? What is a play? What is a boost? I understand what you're saying. But not every app has V four V in it. And I don't want it to seem like, well, I can't really participate because I don't have boosts in my app. And it immediately makes people you know, the detractors go, there.

I totally agree with all this is not. We're not We're not on different sides here. Okay. I guess the only reason I brought it up was because I wanted to, to choose. And you're right. I mean, the the anti crypto stuff gets kicked up every time. But this really was a first thought because I was thinking, do all of these things that we do to podcast? Do these all work as activity pub because I think we need to think through these things. And say, which, which actions in which actions

I understand what you're saying. I'm, I'm not looking at from an activity pub scenario. I'm looking at it, what do you want to work on one app that shows up on the other apps? The two things that I can think of are comments and ratings, though, because comments will become reviews kind of by themselves via a review of an episode or review of a show, etc. Just whatever someone comments is always it's always kind of a review, a comment about about that

Yeah, no, it does, I guess, at this part of me wants to say no, that we shouldn't did that, that we shouldn't do that, because that's kind of a crutch, okay? Because it's easy to just sort of offload some of these things on to other services. And then you end up with you know, with a single point of failure,

I'm with you, I got you. I'm with you in in Yeah. So. So let me say this, then, let me say this about that. If you If, I mean, the main thing that that developers always need, this is what I learned early on, developers always need stuff to be flowing through it. It's very tough. If you know like, I'm gonna build all this great podcast stuff, but there's nothing really out there that's publishing it, which

is why write to a spec in a vacuum. Exactly.

The no agenda show has been publishing socially interact tags, since its inception, almost since its inception. In fact, I think we incepted part of it, every podcast that I do this one as well, but the no agenda show is a big podcast. And, and 1000s 1000s of very active listeners, post comments, when I post the social interact route post, you can see that at podcast index.org, and it

Oh, high rotation?

Yeah, of course. You know, I will promote the crap out of your apps to make sure that people use it. And I'll say check this out. And you can also see it on that. I mean, I will do everything I can to move this forward. Because it is it is good for everybody. It is something that that the big the so called big players won't be able to participate in. They can't. But it is such a huge, unique selling proposition for

That was a big Yeah, I was super excited to see them actually doing some movement.

From what I understand pod bean of all pod bean is now implementing value for value with with streaming SATs. This has happened to get people this has happened.

And there's another there's another person that I've been talking to that you know about that we can't really discuss yet that is also doing some pretty cool stuff. We're about to release some pretty cool stuff with chapters. There's Yeah, it's okay Todd there's motion.

But also value for value music is catching on, artists are starting to understand what's happening. They're starting to see payments showing up in their in their wallets. And it says you know, you got this from booster gram ball or homegrown hits and, and they're starting to they don't really understand what's going on. And by the way, thank you Chad F is one of the people who promotes the heck out of that, you know, a lot of these artists are kind of stuck on noster. And

Yeah, we're we're gonna have we're gonna have Sam on and I'm sure you'll have a lot of ideas about this too and then as soon but I just I want there to be I guess the reason I'm thinking this through so much and is that you could end up if you don't if you're not careful, you could end up with like a chair you could end up with like chair pants. Have you seen chair pan?

No. To explain chair pants. Chair

pants are like these stupid pants that are have like a frame built into them where you can just basically at any moment you can just sit down and it becomes

Yes, yes. Okay. No, I think we're gonna have 100,000 of them in Fredericksburg for the Eclipse. Yes.

It's It's like, it's a does it? Does it function? Yes. Is it a good idea? No, it's dumb. Right? So like, there's a, there's this point you get to, I get to this point in the with the activity pub bridge, where I was like, Okay, I was like, alright, alright, I got, what do you want to do you want to follow? Okay, got that. You want to get notified? You know, which is getting notified of new episodes. Alright, guys got that. Am I okay? What else? I don't know.

I could couldn't Oh, no, I think of Oh, yeah, no, I think I think there's plenty. And, you know, it's almost like the hashtag. You know, the hashtag wasn't invented by Twitter. The hashtag was invented by the users of Twitter. Yeah. So these things will present themselves, I think.

Because, because I can think I could think up like 10 or 12 different things in a minute. And they were all like, less goofy. I mean, like, yeah, it would work. But nobody's this is gonna be like this little thing that nobody cares about. And I just don't want a bunch of, I just don't want to bundle a bunch of cheer pants running around the podcast. We're in a 2.0 world where everybody's like, yeah, that's weird.

Well, comments are not weird.

No, no. And then we and we, that already works. Right?

But I still have we're three years later. And I'm still pleading. And I think we've solved most of the issues, the users are there, the moderation is there. The quote unquote, control is there, the infrastructure is there, the infrastructure has been tested. It's been stress tested, more and more. platforms and devices and things are being connected to the fediverse. It's an obvious place for podcasting to be and no one else can do it. But us.

I mean, it's, it's there, he gave some that people just have added developers just got to get to the point where I guess where they ran, where they don't have more important things on their list. And they didn't do that. I guess. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know what

defeatist

is, but I don't know what there's nothing else to do. You know, what I mean, with with the comments, like comments is, it's just, it's right there. I can't like we can't make people do it. That's the that's the

thing. Oh, I know, all the tech is there, right. But that's why I'll just keep talking about it. It's the

easiest one, it's the easiest part. Because because it's all you don't there's no you don't have to do new activity pub objects. You don't have to get standard us some new schema. All the comments are just like the ability to post a note object with activity Pub is so simple. There's not even a following that has to happen. I mean, you just posted it's just like so easy in there. Nobody's doing this. I don't know. Well,

there you go. That's it. Well, I was very excited. Now I'm just all depressed.

I just crapped all over everything. I'm sorry.

Okay, these pupils are driving me crazy. We have to explain what's going on there is our guest today is so famous. He basically has a one night he goes by one name like Madonna or prince. He is the prince of podcasting. The Prince of podcasts music ladies and gentlemen. We'd like to welcome to the boardroom. The one the only you've heard of him you've never will have you really heard him his voice my Yeah, but this is the first time in the boardroom. Please say hello to blueberry.

If you want to get really technical it is it's a Sobey blueberry moth man at the mini pocalypse freak of Hazzard in the horror of Yag

now there's a show title for you right there

it wasn't my character limit blueberry was what what what

are you on on ring today? Yeah, why are we hearing all these these sounds and stuff what exactly is going on in the background here?

I'm pretty sure that's coming from Dave if he's got the booth scoreboard open he would need to mute that now it's

me I have it open I have it open but

it's still it's still playing the pews sound because I've got pretty much everything on lockdown except for IR off any tests and stuff like in the in the

back in a me because my stuff can't come back through the streams. No, I'm deficient.

I have I have the scoreboard open here and then I haven't heard any other sounds and the pew pew I don't know. I don't know why should it be should I be getting other sounds?

I don't know how half this stuff works. Okay.

All right. Well, maybe we should tell everybody where to go though if they want to follow along, right? This would

it scoreboard dash beta dash flax dot versal dot app. Is the scoreboard that Eric PP is coded up for us. Why

don't you open up your open up your sounds?

I do have a moment.

All I'm hearing is peers. I'm not hearing the crazy now I'm going to close mine. I'm pretty sure because what's happening what I understand is that the way this is all rigged up, and of course I have blueberry, there you go. That's the first time I heard. Can you lower the level just a little bit though? Oh, yeah, I gotcha. Is, is he has has I don't know who but what's been rigged up is a boosting scoreboard. So imagine you're looking at asteroids or space invaders and you're kind of

like Galaga Galaga was the inspiration for it. So as far as like the star pixels in the background, the red and yellow, cyan and white.

So it's a public. It's a public page that shows who is boosting. If you boost special amounts, it triggers a special sound. Which and I don't know what they are, but we'll hear them as as we move along. And then it so right now it just said Dobie das boosted 5000 SATs from fountain I want to be on the scoreboard. So that just popped up on the screen. And then it goes back to the to the it's like a top score. And the app that apps that have that have been boosted from it's a

Yeah, pretty much just threw together a mock up in Photoshop and send it out to a couple of people to see if there's anybody that'd be willing to get it coded up for us. And we're actually planning on projecting that at the venue tomorrow on the wall. Okay,

so first, tell us a little bit about yourself, man to people to give us your background how you got involved in 2.0 in the music stuff, so we just have so people who are just tuning in don't think what what what have I fallen into?

Ah, well, back in 2010, started going to college for theater. And then graduated, started touring did Disney on Ice for a couple of years works in theme park.

Now were you skating or did you do other things?

No, I was an electrician for the for the tour.

Okay. All right. That would be

a pretty funny sight,

but I don't know. I mean, I think everybody knows. Okay,

I'm finally figuring out what's going on here. IR cacophony is only set up the trigger based off of the behind the schemes feed. So that's why names goat wasn't coming through earlier because he's boosted podcasting. 2.0 Okay, you have now

so many scissors flying around. Now a mound of scissors. Yes.

Have You Ever Have you ever wondered what it looks like to tie scissors to a ceiling fan?

Ever wondered. But I can see how it feels like it right now. Yes, yes. Okay, I got I got it. So

yeah, if if you want to play with the IR cacophony, just boost the live podcast and 2.0 episode that's on the behind the scheme's feed.

Okay, I got you. That's why, okay, I see.

So I did the theme park gigs, and right

after all, as an electrician role.

It's been, I mostly work as electrician Carpenter, but I can do a lot of different stuff. It really just depends on what's required for the gig, you know,

theater, just general theater tech stuff across the board, entertainment production.

It's, you know, if I need to go climb a tree, that's what I was actually doing. When I kind of fell into the knowledge industry. I was up in a tree in El Paso wrapping Christmas lights around it because I didn't have a job on account with a Rona. Oh,

okay. All right, right, because you were on tour you were on tour with.

Yeah, so in 2000 That would have been 2014 started picking up Broadway tours as a system electrician did some brake work as a props guy. And just rock that from 2014 all the way up to 2020. In between, I'd work like there's a production company here in town that does a festival and concert setup, stuff like that. And I would work them during the summer and

that's that was the real death. Death by vape. Yeah, we got those bogus carta bogus THC cards. Just from China, because I know what really happened, you know, I was like, Oh, you're all gonna die from vaping Well, I'm still I've never vape more in my life. And this past year, I'm still here.

And it was about that time that I found the new agenda podcast, I don't even know where I stumbled across it. It was maybe a comment here in some last thread, I'm not sure. And I was listening to that. That was pretty fortuitous timing, given what 2020 was gonna bring. And I was on top of a ladder doing a big lamp changeover for our entire rig and Ottawa and we got the news. Oh, yeah. Theater is going to shut down for the

Okay, sound also,

I you know, funny enough audio is probably my weakest point in terms of production.

All right, you said you toured with somebody doing sound but I'm

just in terms of like, being a swing technician, you know, you can kind of fall into that place of like helping audio guys out. But if you need me to, like tune a room, that I am not your guy, you want me to run cable? I got you no problem.

So okay, so everything shut down. And then how did you find out about podcasting? 2.0

That was the pandemic hobby was starting a podcast and out the gate. I mean, if you go online trying to find information about how to start a podcast, it's go to pod bean, get yourself a Blue Yeti.

Ah, yes, champions right there. point

point the Blue Yeti directly into your mouth like you would any other mic, you know, not standing straight up anyways. And, you know, I have to give a huge shout out a big plus plus to avoid zero. And Darren No. This is both of their faults that we're talking right now. Because I made the fatal mistake one day of getting into the troll room guy, and that'll

night. Yeah. Yeah, that gets old. It does. So, okay, so then value for value music comes along, and you're already right in the middle of it. And so how do you jump in?

I mostly I just I had a collection of my dad's tracks. It's the climbing the mountain you can find it It's a compilation on podcasts and 2.0 and my original co host Malikai. We'd actually started out with three guys. But Malikai is also a pretty prolific Oh my God, what's the word prolific, prolific musician, and he had had a sizable catalogue. So I had, you know, both of these two artists like the rusty gates, the Rainmaker. $2 hauler. You know, that's all.

Rusty gates, I think was one of the there's not the first track we played on podcasting. 2.0. It

would have been the second I think you started with just Oh, that's right. Joe

Martin. Right. Then went right to Gates was the second right.

girl like me? Yeah. So I had these all this music that you know, we've been playing this music forever on the show. We have. Maybe since the 20s. On BTS, we've been playing 15 minute long intermissions every single week, which Fun fact, when you have 100 plus of those intermissions saved up you can just throw them onto a ice cast stream and we haven't like incident radio station in a box. Just add water and shake.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah.

You know, all of that was Free Music Archive stuff, you know, CC BY. And we're actually kind of in a in a conundrum, because I don't know how we can put the new intermissions that have the VTS is in them on a stream and actually have those be boost double. I would definitely love to be able to do that where you have something like the no agenda stream just broadcasts and well actually,

I think that the split kit has a mechanism for that, but you have to use the Split kit as the playout. But it does work. I've experimented with that you can put in an entire music show and it will just it will sucking all of the value time splits and little add them in to the to the live stream. Okay, so they have not had a way to do it. Yeah,

I hadn't. I'd heard rumblings about that I hadn't had a chance to play with. So

I'm looking at your feed move. Marina says you're he said you're on pod surf, but I don't but your feed shows sovereign feeds.

That's because every Monday I upload BTS and before the schemes to pod surf, I take the feed that they generate, and I hack away at it by hands. And then that's

rough brother that's very rough. Every

month, every Monday night when we sit down kick the stream on 830 It's probably for 435 o'clock by the time we walk away because we we do episodes back to back and then we post produce both episodes back to back with all of the new chapter art, all the value time splits everything just you know, get it done, rip that band aid off. So then I think oh, the music. Yes,

I think you really you really came into the picture and started to shine really big besides the behind the schemes work with with the Ainsley Costello just loud concert, because you were basically boots on the ground for everybody. You were pulling stuff together, there's the way it felt to me.

So backing up just a little bit. Right after the value time splits were debuted on podcast 2.0 We immediately threw them into our feed. That's something that we had been waiting for forever. Even back when David joined us on episode 101. We made sure to include all of the musician wallets for the

Oh, really? Oh, okay.

And, you know, like, by last minute, I'm thinking probably within the last month or so, but you know, don't don't quote me on my outline. Like I said, it's just, it's, there's so much both in work and personal life and the show stuff. It's hard to keep track of, there's a lot of lore that

though. I Phoebe loves it too. So Okay, girl, I could not live without the split kit, for sure. Yeah.

So it was just a matter of like it kind of just, you know, being able to provide a little bit of production. We rented some lights from the company that I worked for just little two pipe, pipe and bass with some LEDs. And Frankie Payne was out there helping me get loaded in and we streamed everything and we BTS actually rebroadcast that along with homegrown hits. That's something that's really fun, you know, fun fact, if people want to do this, you can just copy and paste live

that's, that's a great idea. Yeah, this is like a, like a feed drop. But live for live for for a live event, you know, yeah,

it's a repeater. It's it's, you did you said, copying the live item for this for this podcast and to put on our live episode into the BTS feed is perfect. I mean, I had never even considered that but it's, it's neither. A live remote item is beautiful.

And we'll be doing that on Saturday. But I guess since we're at the end of December with Ainsley shows, you know, that was I still like it still kind of messes me up just like how much we got to witness happen. For Ainsley, for her parents. For Frankie pain, Frankie pain is a technician that's never bought Bitcoin and earn that first stack of sads nice. Like, that's such a that is such a mind fudge, you know.

So before we get to the next concert, which is the reason why we timed you having on the show today. Tell me about Thunder Road and, and how how are you approaching artists? Do you find this a certain way that works better for them? What kind of pushback Are you getting? What is your what is your approach for onboarding artists and and explaining to them what's going on?

The it's funny, I have been way more, I've met way more musicians have been receptive to podcasts and 2.0 then other other podcasters realistically, it's pretty pretty bizarre. Fun fact, the union of the unwanted appearance that you had done recently, a lot of those dudes I have talked to some to a pretty good extent about getting their feeds on boarded one of them even in person purpley. So I'm excited to see those dudes catch

everybody okay, yeah, you you're cutting out Dave, are you losing all signal or just

boom? No, no, I'm fine. I just think it's just on boobers in

okay. Yeah, we lost you for a second brother. Take it back to Okay. Check, check, check, check. Yeah, you're good now.

So, uh, oh, sure, I lost my train of thought. Um, yeah, it's just a matter it's just a matter of, you know, reaching out to the musicians and seeing if they want to do one song and if they do the one song and there's and that's the cool thing is like these music shows we can just like, like, hey, there's new music from this, these guys and we just drop them into the chat and you know, they get a little bit of exposure and they they like what they're seeing in terms of you

Small batch. Small batch. Artisan partners. Yes,

yes, yes.

You're doing such amazing work and I just want everyone to understand when when you talk about value for value and how it can work with smaller audiences were well over 160,000 Satoshis just of what you brought to today's podcast and it's all you man you don't need we don't need music it's just just have you on the show this great I mean that that really shows the power of what community can do and you know, you're bringing your community you're you're streaming live on

we go any further I do Oh Pete's are Seven Goats because he was boosted in the podcasting 2.0 feed and out the behind the ski one behind the screen ones so with the boardrooms blessings I'd like to just go ahead and get this over with that's probably the best for everybody okay.

Victory oh man Dave Are you all right?

Not sure what just happened?

I got some on me. Let me just wipe this off. I don't know what that Guru is. But I gotta

change the clothes Okay, that's something new in the boardroom. Yes. Okay.

I love that tribute che Yeah, that was a reason

that I just I'm I'm sort of like this is not good for my mental health. What I mean is watching this

watching the scoreboard I had to shut down the scoreboard it was it was it was drawing me in I was like,

it's crazy focus and don't get anything done right now.

So there's, there's a lot of elements that we've been building up with are these and this is gonna sound crazy, but most of the things that triggers the stuff that we can do comes from IRC. Is

there a place we can go and see where we can find the code to implement this or no to customize it? GitHub or something that people can go to? Because I mean, I can see lots of lots of things people would want to do with this. But it seems like where do I find it?

There's two places. Servo does have a GitHub repository for IR cacophony, which is the IRC triggers. Split kid is also has also introduced boost ISOs. And I didn't realize I forget exactly how to set it up. Just because I got so much piled up on the plates, but it is possible. It's just a matter of making sure that you have the right live item in your defaults. And then there's a menu inside the hamburger menu that takes you to the boost. ISOs and you can set Oh,

I'd never even see that boost board trigger board soundboard. Holy moly. Yeah. Oh, that's cool.

So you can do that. But yeah, the way our cacophony worse is gal, which is my version of the booth spot, servos cetera. She's amazing. And she relays the booths back. And then IR cacophony is a Python script that's sitting there reading the chat room, and just fires sound effects based off of various key word triggers.

Wow, did you ever did you ever get the lighting thing working correctly?

Multiple times, multiple times. So that that's a little more caveman than I would like it. But as it stands, right, well, the first version was using Hello pad. And hey, citizen, Peso doesn't turn me on to this open source software called QL c plus, which is a free and open lighting software. And in there, it's got an audio trigger widget and you just give it an input and it will sit there and fire lighting chases based off of how you know how you program it. So just

just to distill it down so what can be done now which is great for live shows, which I'm going to look at now that I see it's in the split kit, the split kit.com You can set it up so that if if someone boosts a certain number, a certain amount that will trigger a different sound Yes, that is I didn't even know the see this. I didn't even know this was here. It's been in front of me. I use the Split kit all the time. It's it's been in front of me all this time. That's phenomenal.

and like that whole kazoo pit that's something that just became a necessity because Pete's are murders so many goats routinely that he just needs background music so yes, I

think I think I understand yes

it's a totally just you know, it's the the epitome in my opinion of taking a show and you know like really staking a claim and brother

let's take a little break here and then we'll come back we'll talk about the about the concert tomorrow you of course view as one of the few guests on the show email this morning early with your wallet and and with a song you want it so what are we going to listen to?

We are going to be listening to a damn good haunting by mellow Cosette they're going to be kicking off our live stream tomorrow at 6:30pm Central in the Minneapolis check it out.

says please wipe the blood from your door Grace Do you see what you believe in now still betting days in the sun need is a damn good meeting hearts you Got demons in the caravans as you can you promise us back you need is a damn good on

You well now kind of kicks butt I would concur. mela Damned

you that the the church is not a place you go as you are the church you carry it around with you like blueberry. Behind the scheme's is not a podcast. You listen to it, it's wherever blueberry is. So he basically turned this boardroom into an episode of bond schemes as recently what happened today

Dave, you do a invites brother. You're in charge of all that man.

I know. I know. I apologize to the entire boardroom. So yeah, so

let's after after the concert with Ainsley, I'd called him to the our big dumb mouth podcast live every Wednesday and Saturday. And I had told him, you know how the concert went, and I was very excited. And someone from the Minneapolis Perry, emailed the Thunder Road, email, and was curious about how they could do something similar and we had talked a little bit back and forth. He plays in a band silver seed who check him out on Ellen beats. And you know, it communication just kind

nice. Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah, dude. Oh, yeah. And we're going to have a 48 inch disco ball that's going to be lining up. I've actually got a LED licos in here at my feet that's been lining up a floor. This is like my second time to actually

crop so you Actually, you're taking the whole boosting experience back into the IRL with with stuff flashing and flipping off while people are booths. Will you have QR codes for people to use during the show? I

hope so. I was kind of messing around with the get Alby. I just I don't know which QR codes to use. That's

the thing. It's not a split kit thing that you that you use for that. Oh, you're right. Yeah. Split kit. Yeah.

Yeah. All right. Yeah. And we'll have split kit running. One

day, someone's gonna document all this and it'll be the way that concerts are done. I'm telling you, right, you can be sitting at home, you can do something on your on your app, and you're gonna see lights flashing at the venue itself. It's this is a this is powerful. Unfortunately,

unfortunately, I think we're going to kind of run out. I mean, there's we're going to run out of time today, but there's so many just like, oh, we can try. Okay, I'll give you one. Give me one. You'll appreciate this.

How old are you man? How old are you?

I'll be 33 at the end of July down in Nashville. magic number.

Dave now I understand young man. Yes, that's right.

Yeah, he has energy. Yeah.

Oh, god, yeah, it's, it's really just kind of bring into the table. Everything that we've been, you know, trying to not trying that we've been doing for the live podcast. And so we'll have the boost of all disco ball, it should be lighting up. We're going to have a boost bot overlay on the video stream. I've actually got hex chat output into a text file for OBS. Of course, why not? That will be overlaid on the bottom? Of course you do. Yep. There's, we we start the pre stream at

Oh, hell yes. And then.

And our guests brings his own sound drops. It doesn't get any better than that. It's

all I have. I have so many. I have so many brother,

your enthusiasm, your enthusiasm is infectious. I love this. I think that you're changing the way live music is just live music in general. With this integration with with 2.0 and with the value verse. This is very exciting. It's it's a it's messy. I love that about it. Because this is this is where beautiful things are born man. I'm very. Can I say I'm proud of you, son. I love this. This is good. Good stuff. Families. Thank you, ma'am.

You're not. But you're not a developer. Right? I mean, this. You're not No, not right. Oh,

my, my, my history or I guess, experience with computers is pretty much MySpace and some Adobe court back in the day when we were homeschooled. Wow.

Wow is the most this is the best part to me, of, of this, of this board meeting is that you look at all the stuff that is getting strung together in by you and Spencer and and all the people in the IRC. And it's, it shows to what what I take away from that is that look at all this stuff that was that

so, just looking at the scoreboard so far 208,585 SATs for this podcast being boosted. That is well over $135. You know, a lot of bands will pay that amount to play.

Yeah, no, I'm saying we, you know, this concert has been, you know, produced via the same way that we've been doing the show every week. We've asked people for value. We've tried to do what we could to provide value up front. That's been kind of interesting. Like, it's not just the lighting stuff that we're doing for this concert we've sown and made banners that

Man and brother. Do you know do you have a full time job as well? I

have have bounced between two jobs. I just got off the road with REO Speedwagon Sunday.

Beautiful

in the past 10 to a that was a great time. This guy is still ahead. Oh, I

bet. I bet they do. But we could talk forever about this stuff. And it's in thrall and we do have to thank some people also have to get Dave out of here on time, so

just let me just say real quick because I'm actually I probably do have to dip right now because we have to go pack a truck. Saturday. Search 12 rods, Tory clips in your podcast and 2.0 app that will show you the live feed, we're going to be kicking that on 536 30 metal cassette takes the stage 730 will be 12 rods. Thank you, Tyler. Thank you open mic. Thank you, everybody that's helped us get to where we are to go load in today

and where and where do we find it in the podcasting 2.0 apps.

You can search 12 rods you can search tailor sound okay behind the schemes and homegrown hits are going to be doing a rebroadcast and we're going to be live in tune stir.io And on the no agenda stream. Wow.

There's a video string is which which one is the video stream? They should send you're gonna have a note the OBS lay overlay and yeah, all

of them all of them should be the video stream. Okay, agenda one. Yep. I'm gonna dip out but my last little bit of karma right. Give me all for letting me hop on. I really appreciate it and I will talk to you also very soon. Thank you very

brother. Thank you so much. We appreciate it. And we'll be watching man have a great time. Okay, Dave. I'd learned something Dave. We've just looked at the ground. Dizziness will go away. It's okay. Room was scanning for me. I had to stop for a second. There you go. This is actually helping. All right. I'm going to try and run through a whole bunch of these booths that came in it's a little bit out of

Yes. Hang in there. Yes.

Then I hit the delimiter. So oh, there we go. Okay.

Take a breather. Bad. shoulder shoulder shoulder massage. Yes.

Thank you. And turn on the massage chair. Yeah, perfect. We

got some. Get some paper towels. We get Oscar marry $200 Whoa,

thank you very much.

Stock calm. Carla. 20 Blaze. Ohm am Paula. Thank you,

brother. That's great.

We got Yeah, so I talked to Oscar in email. He said he's got the the fountain relay pretty much beats he said his set is stable. So we should be able to start hooking into that to do some bridging on that overt act. Ah, nice. Nice. Nice. Yeah. Okay, so hopefully hopefully get that going soon. You were evidently on a show that I didn't know about. In because we got a couple of boosts I mean, papers about that. Elizabeth Pavlov sent $100 Oh

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on Ambala the union of the unwanted yes

it's just heard you on decentralized TV.

Oh, no, that's that's on Oh, that's Mike Adams the health Ranger on Bridey on Yeah, I did that a while of your honor. You did a variety I did it right on man. Yeah, I was like now I'm officially in the club and talked a lot about podcasting 2.0 If I can recall so that that might that might have done it. Yeah,

didn't nobody says she says just heard you on decentralize TV Glory. Glory be to God in the highest Welcome to the family and the neighborhood. We live 20 minutes from Fredericksburg. Oh, Michael and Elizabeth peggeleh.

Well, micron Elizabeth let's. Let's have a drink at Java ranch. Let's have a coffee.

Thank you, Elizabeth and Mike. And we got a legendary Hall of Fame. podcaster Dave Jackson. Yeah, he $50 Well, thank you. Thanks to Adam for the kind words on decentralized TV deeply appreciate it.

I mean, what was I doing? I don't know whatever you did. This interview was taped quite a while ago and I don't know why but they hadn't posted it and then they said oh, no, we're we're posting it tomorrow. And I did I did. I posted on on podcast index dot social so people can find it there. Yeah, didn't

even didn't even know about this. We got a couple of boosts. Sounds like Whoa This must have been a big thing. Up Beats Music podcasts and is $3.33 how the boardroom I read from chat F of course you did the marketing arm of podcasting. Yes there were a few music artists in index that never even heard of booster Graham ball nor podcasting 2.0 Taking a note from Texas slim on this one. Why are you here? What are your

perfect boost perfect donation. Perfect, perfect note and yes, I've been asking people on boosted gram Balt please in your in your booster gram. Say I heard it on the booster gram ball. And you know that work someone? One of the artists right away was on Nastar saying well, I don't know what this is Chad after the rescue. He slips in. Yeah, it was beautiful.

Why don't we get $1 from a video Cut Pro rue. Not sure what nationality that is. But thank you. Thank you. All right. We got some get some boosts boost. See boost. dwelve sent us 5000 SATs the cast Matic. He says thanks for the really good explanation of V four. V four v Adam and Dave. It has really helped me understand the intent of values separated from technology.

A lot of people I'm glad we did that. Because many people were like, Oh, I didn't know this. Thanks for clue me and yeah, value number four value dot info if you want to get a refresher or learn more or tell someone else about what we're doing here.

Karen at mere mortals send us essential enrichers 1111 through Fanti says I've also heard there is a very good podcast that explains value for value.

I'm reliably informed. I've heard that value for value podcast. Andrew

grommets in us a row of dogs 2220 twos from the app called wherever he is and he's going

to be on pod news weekly review soon I hear which I'm very I'm delighted about that.

Yes, Sam always he always scoops us before we get to talk to people yes snatches them from us. Well, that's

Sam for you.

Thanks for the V four v primer it's easy to miss the forest for the trees appreciate the education and go podcasting go podcasting

yourself brother. The legendary Andrew Grumman

RW Nash 2000 says they found he says because you're doing things not just sitting back and complaining hashtag V for V. Anonymous 5000 SATs through pod verse he says LoL is sending notes through PayPal. I've had better luck sending cash through the post office. Thanks, God. Thank God for booster grants. No, no one from anonymous sleepovers. I still don't understand this aversion to equating V for V

a podcast is not just the serve the serving of the podcast, it's the whole meal. So you're getting a whole meal and the servers in one but you're not being charged anything upfront.

That's the waiter and the maitre d all wrapped up into one and the restaurant and the recipe in the restaurant. Yes. Jean been 20 to 22 through cast Maddie says please keep in mind that some of us don't use stats for advertising. Yes. In to clarify my comments from last week. I only used advertising as my exempt my core examples because advertising there was an accusation made against Mitch that he was quote defrauding advertisers and so I that was the core of my argument.

It could and it'll be listeners choice to opt into it and I can see why they would do that if you ask them.

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What is that? What is lightning places that

I have no idea. But something in the Netherlands? Let me see lightning places.com.

Let's see. Let's probably in Netherlands,

I get a website that says lightning places.com Coming soon. So they're coming soon. All right,

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That's gonna be a bust because it's gonna be overcast. It's I

know 40% chance of rain, overcast? No,

although many millions of dollars were made on eclipse glasses for a thing that you're not even gonna be able to see. Yeah,

well, there's there's it was a it was a big hype, I think was overhyped, despite the wet even before the weather reports we were seeing in Fredericksburg that the hotels were not fully booked up the Airbnbs were not fully booked up. So I think people just got to a point where I'm like crazy if the end of the world's coming I want to be at home with my fridge. I want to watch TV. I don't buy don't have to be a part of the destruction. Although we did get that nice

we didn't even mean we didn't even scratch one. We didn't even hit one thing on my on my notes. But I did want to like there's like 100 things I wanted to talk about. But I didn't want to say thank you to Eric PP and Steven crater, they fixed the TLV missing episode guity. Yes, thank you very much on Win Win from the PR website. And I'm hoping I'm hoping next next week since we'll have we won't have a guest next week. So I'm hoping that we'll be able to dig into I want to talk about

maybe the music tags and all that stuff comes along with the category

He has so much to talk about Yeah. Yeah so much Tommy the cat the categories because that that seems to be the gist of what is needed right now we need the publisher stuff there and we need the music. Like not It's not specifically from us we need some of these keyword category type things. Yeah. Yep. Think about that next week.

Okay, well, you know, I'm glad it's just you and me next week you bring your agenda and I'll just sit back and make snide comments.

Okay typical border Yeah,

yeah, the way we usually run my brother I love you thank you so much for for taking your lunch break to do this. You going back I presume a lot more to do before April 15. Pretty busy.

Yep. Yeah. And hopefully hopefully, yeah, this is this is straggler week. All the people that are hair on fire. Oh my god, can you do my taxes?

Alright brother, take care. Everybody in the boardroom. Thank you for being here. We'll see you next Friday right here on podcasts.

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