Episode 144: Velocity

Oh, podcasting 2.0 September 1 2023 Episode 144 We got velocity Oh it's good to be back. Hello everybody welcome to the only boardroom that welcomes live music on the table it is podcasting. 2.0 That's right everything happening with podcasting, real podcasting. You know what I mean podcasts not YouTubing podcasting. Everything happening with the podcast namespace all this going on in podcasts index at Oregon. We do have stuff going on there. And of course all the latest gossip

Does this qualifies Season Two we were on such a long hiatus. I feel like we should have rebranded as Season Two season

two. I don't know does that work in any podcast apps that season stuff?

Yeah, I doubt I doubt. Probably not.

No, probably not. Probably not. David album

Mark didn't even work in Apple until recently. Yeah,

that's true. Dave I missed you I understand you miss me to be enough to go throwing stuff around. It's okay. All right. Regardless is all fine.

I'm glad to hear that you miss me because you know you seem to be doing every podcast but this one I started to feel a little left out.

I know. Oh actually I miscalculated

in a mo facts. We did one of these. Okay, all right. And that shows not even going anymore.

Yeah, it is it has seven more episodes before it's over. But what was actually really important mo fax was very important. Have you listened to it? I'm sure you haven't listened to that I listened to you. It was on my player. It was very serendipitous in with what we're doing with value for value music. It I mean, where do you want it? Where do you want to start my dear because by the way Hello boardroom Hello everybody.

like this wildly switching technology ethos technology on the end of it it makes it sound like there's like important

it's important yeah there is a team it's a huge team we've got this massive team

but no it's but when you actually do it it's just you and split kit

together i My heart is just so full of the music value for value can we just talk about that for a moment?

Yes, I will save my I will save my long story about the so

come on give us Come on give us a tease give us two years Wow What do you what do you got to lose?

I was sent a road caster

why why do you were sent one bias by road

no road yeah we really need to get him a review

I would have been mad.

I know you would have been pissed I got sent a road caster but I'm not using it in the in this story of how that came to be is is worth telling so

well. Why don't you do that first first. So who sent you who was who was the kind person to send the pod sage a road caster?

Well this is part of this is the fun. One of the fun elements of this story is that two people tried to send me one at the same time.

Oh my gosh,

it became a who can send David road caster first competition.

That's fantastic.

No Sam Sam Sethi offered over email to send me a road caster. He said I've got one and I'm not using it. Oh, that's cool. Yeah. So he's gonna send me a road caster Pro. And I was like, well, that's great. They let you know,

a pro or Pro two. Is that sorry, I don't distinction.

Don't remember. It's

a pro send it back.

In the free gift. Yes. So it may have been a pro I don't race it. It was leftover from his radio station. It's

most well there's pro in this pro too. And you want to pro too but okay. Sam is a beautiful man for doing that. And the other person

in I said, Well, you know, said Well, let me at least pay pay shipping isn't expensive, you know, gift and everything. Well then, then Kevin Finn from Buzzsprout texts me went like a day after Sam sent that email and says, Hey, what's your shipping address? And we'll send you some, but he never told me what it was. So then two days later, or caster Pro Duo shows up on the front oh wow that's the one you want yeah I got the little it's the it's the one you wanted me to get yes that's the

one you want that that is and I tested it on the road that is it I mean it's fantastic is exactly what you want in fact if the if it had come out before I got the road caster to I probably would have gotten that one.

Well the fantastic part is it was literally that in quotes for Ron oh yeah all right. I didn't use so I want to do this. I want to do this review of the non of this thing of this thing into parts. First shipping box stores.

How it came phase it came from the road or it came from the from from Kevin

came from Kevin ordered it from like the BH video. Yeah, yeah, b&h Sure. corbion at b&h been shipping Foster's got here. Awesome. operation. Now the operational review is going to take the form of a short story. Let's do it. So, unbox this about a week after I got it. And just I'm like, Okay, I need to check this thing out and make sure it works and everything fired up. It's great. Like, immediately I can see how great this thing is. Spent some time with it. Playing around Scottsdale.

Take it out to dinner.

afforded a drink. Yeah. So it was it was great. The preamps are dynamite. That's what they're famous for. Yeah. Fantastic. So I'm playing around with this thing. I'm getting the hang of how it works. So much so that it was so easy to get into and set up and use that I was like, Okay, I'm just gonna, I just took down my my old setup, I removed all the cords, everything. So I set my whole rig up and the whole workstation up with with the road caster duo. And I'm like, great.

I'm gonna experiment. Well, I

go. I was like, well, I'll just, I'll just come back to this later. So. So last night, I come here to get back up and running and just make sure I know how to use this thing because I was going to spring it on. You don't want it be a surprise.

Oh, okay. Yeah. Oh, nice. Yeah,

they've got new gear. And so some men Marigold, or, you know, we're laughing at ourselves with with the funny pitch shifting voice technology. This is your daughter has your daughter. Yeah. Yeah, that's right, my 13 year old and generally having a riotous time. And so I go in there, everything's working. Great. I go in, I renamed the default profile from from default to podcasting. 2.0. Right. And then you hit export. And then no, it the Export button was grayed out.

Because you need to have an SD card in.

Okay, yeah, exactly. Okay, so I don't have an SD card. Yeah. So I rename it to podcasting. 2.0 and I exit that screen. You off, you froze? Oh, user interface, it just completely froze up. So I'm like, Okay, this

is weird. Hit the button on the back.

Hold the button down on the back. I hit the hit the button on the back. Nothing. I hold the button down on the back for 10 seconds. Nothing pulled the plug. Hold it down for 30 seconds. Nothing. Oh, no, there's, there's clearly no hardware interrupts on this thing. All software's not so so I go pull that pull the power. Rule one. All software sucks. And it's full of bugs. So I pull the power. No sweat. Plug it back in. 25% progress progress bar for 30 minutes on the Buddha up. Oh

no.

I'm like, bricks. I'm like, what it was what's happening here? I pull the power again. Plug it back in. Same thing. Okay, well, so

important one question. Yes. Yes, yes. When you got the machine one of the first things I think it says in the instructions is to connect it to Why don't use it. It's connected to Wi Fi and then see if there's an update.

Yeah, so I did better than that. I plugged it into Ethernet. And you check for an update immediately plugged into the Ethernet is said firmware update. I said go it updated itself rebooted. It was everything was great. Okay, that happened day one. And so you know, pull up now pull all the cords out. You know, I'm gonna get this thing down. I'm going full like a one. You know, a or a plus computer certified technician. Oh,

yeah. No, I wish you know, are you sweating a little bit at this point? Are you mad? Okay. It's a little bit a little bit of sweat. Yeah. Okay, aggravation, little, little bit. Yeah, if

there had been a floppy cable in there, I would have been checking the orientation of the twisted perception. So, so did. So pull everything off, plug it back, pull everything out, plug the power cord back in, hit the power button. Same thing, but this time, I get to like 90% or a little different.

All right? You feel better. You felt better. How long did you wait at 90% 20 minutes?

And I'm like, No, this is wrong. So I pulled the power again. Plug it back in. I'm just I'm just doing the same thing over and over like a monkey at this point, right? hit the power button. Now it comes up all the way to like 99% on the progress bar and I get the Christmas tree.

Oh, you're feeling good. At this point. You're feeling good? Feeling good? Yeah,

I'm like, This is great. This is I'm almost there. All I have to do is reboot 787 or eight more times and I'm going to do it again. And this time it comes up and I get an interface. I get to you I'm like okay, I've This is progressive rebooting I'm not sure I understand this technology. But this

is daily. It's a feature. It's a feature obviously a feature.

Yeah, and so so I get I get an interface. And I'm like, Okay, this is working. Sliders are working. And then I hit the hit the gear icon. I'm gonna go try to see if I can force it to find a firmware update. I hit the gear icon for you. I froze. Yeah, so now I'm googling I'm like okay, what is this this unknown issue or whatever and now

and I would say that the road website itself sucks it really does the way they've set that up and everything they've chaptered it and put it into sections it sucks just give me one big page with everything but no okay yeah

in the end the the the placeholders on the page that you jump back and forth with don't always right no good is no good. So I started Googling to try to find solutions to this and I run into like I run into this dude called the road caster master oh

this is Oh did you get his number the road caster master

this guy is fantastic. I mean, I love this guy. He brings a break. So this the road caster Master is a special person he can take like a like a 32nd How to and turn it into 15 minutes you want a little you want a little sample of the road caster?

I was just looking them up. You have a sample. Oh, okay.

All right.

Let me play a little bit of the here is a clip one the road caster master

the road caster Pro two. Let's go Alright.

Fine. I'm liking this guy. All right. Oh, he's

great. I mean, he needs the horn though. That's the only thing he's missing.

And that's actually it's actually built into the thing. I can't believe that he that he didn't already use it. Let's just try that again. Let's just try him again.

The road caster Pro two. Let's go.

Alright, I'm feeling good. Now. I'm feeling good, right?

I'm like, Okay, this guy's will solve my problem. He's gonna show me how to read how to reset the road caster Pro. Well, of course, nothing this the duo is so new that nobody really has anything on it. It's on Pro two stuff. So he's like the he's like the this guy's like the recipe blog of YouTubers.

Like his little icons, Roman helmet icon.

It doesn't make any sense. So

he has 98 views of which 97 are yours.

That's all my f5 dini goes from? He goes, he goes at one point into this into he's going to show you how to and he goes to the TRS 4000 skycam. Right on, which is yes,

I'm putting this guy in the show notes. All right. Yeah.

Yeah, hit clip two. Oh, sorry.

In the comments. Someone asked the same question. So since they asked the same question, I'm like, Hey, man, these are two comments that I just read and email that I just read. You know what I'm getting on and we're gonna talk about this on my break it down sort of forever be broke. So now what we're going to do is we're going to transition to the TRS 4000 as a technologically advanced, Scott Kim is out of space right now. He's going to zoom in

All right, so he's zooms in

zooms in and shows hitting the the gear icon on the screen of which I can't get to right. This guy is ultimately worthless. He was entertaining for 10 minutes. Yeah, I'm sure it's really worthless to me. It's So, I moved, I moved past the road caster, Master and the so now try the road central software. Do you have you used this?

Oh yeah. Oh yes. Did you have the right version because if you don't have the right version is not going to do anything for you.

I don't know what version I had the every video tutorial I could find that tries to get show you how to force a firmware flash it none of none of these work because it this thing only boots to a UI two out of 10 times. And so you and then after that you get about 15 seconds and you're frozen. So the I guess the overall verdict for usability of the road caster duo is zero stars cannot actually get it to function.

You know, I've heard a lot of a lot of these issues when people don't have the SD card, which I think I mean, come on road, what does it cost? Seriously, throw and throw a little SD card in there? Because that's where it's getting mixed up.

So you're saying that it's possible that because I don't have an SD card that can be the source of all these problems?

I think so. Okay, yeah. Here's something you could try. And and this now I am the road caster dual master you can use one of those two interfaces to connect a drive. So if you have an external drive, and you plug it into I think it's a number to the second yet that might trick it into thinking, Oh, I have some storage. I think it's looking for storage. And when you tried to export your profile by

so I need a micro SD card and a USBC flash drives.

Well if you have a if you have a micro SD card then by that that should do it. But if you don't in a pinch in a pinch, just grab one of those external USB hard drives you have laying around we know you've got one with the blockchain on it.

It's not being used. Yes, it's

available. Yeah, grab one of those and try that. Oh, that's too bad. That's that is a bad experience.

Well, it it is. It is beautiful to look at. It's gorgeous. It's a gorgeous piece of tech. I actually got an ISO from the road caster master. This is a beautiful piece of technology.

Of course we want that that is a beautiful piece

of technology. Gee.

So that's my road caster story of which I have which that is that is awesome. That is the I love you. That is the end of show ISO No,

it is a beautiful piece of technology. Gee. That is a beautiful piece of technology.

Come on. Come on. Come on. Come on.

Gee, this guy is amazing. He's great. I love you, Kevin. Thank you so much. And I will get this somehow a work with road support or something to get this working. And we'll end it will return to the show and functioning order.

I'm excited. I'm excited. I'm excited because you know, and then you'll have sound pads you can hit and do all kinds of cool stuff with

Yeah, and annoy you to death. No, no,

no, you don't annoy me at all. I missed you. I have all the people of all the people I do podcasts with I missed you the most yet because

I'm the only one you didn't do a podcast with.

I know that's why I missed you. We were supposed to do it last Friday, but I miscalculated. And we were traveling on Friday. Oh and and I really had miscalculated the hours but we also had an hour and a half delay and then we had because I was going to try and slip on and as I said when we landed when we landed his people airport and you know I had the hotel right there at the airport. Everything was good to

your trip you're rested and relaxing it was a good trip.

I'm not rested and relaxed at all no it was really it was it do vacation. We're traveling we're going from Holland to Spain, a meeting people who are dying you know, my my friends who are in their late 70s and 80s. Like I just want to make sure I try and see you once every one or two years before you gotta go. Oh man. Yeah. I know none of the only one guy I grew up with. He grew up in, in the hood with me that he's dying. So that but you know, so I spent a couple days

I don't have time.

But the, the older people like my first radio boss, Lex Harding, had dinner with him. And then actually on the Friday night that got all messed up. I was having dinner with kind of a pseudo dad, for me when I was in the 15. I started out with illegal CB radio in Holland. And there was a real community and he was in there. And he kind of took me under his wing. And so I know him and his wife and his kids. Kids are almost like my age. And, you know, he's like this old sailor

This is nuts. Yeah. So and they're doing it self hosted too. They're not the wave like yeah,

so Okay, so there's a lot of things happen, I had a lot of reflection on what's going on. And just by doing the booster, gram ball, I need to need to get a couple of things off my chest. Okay. I suddenly realized, repetition creates hits. Now I know this sounds da. And, and I know, inherently that, you know, when you're in and radio, you know, I should probably step back 111 thing here. So I've done a lot of radio in my life and radio. Yeah, you have decades of back

just just make sure this is a 10 song rotation pretty much

and it's and it's all about hoes and money and drugs and killing each other. Oh, that's not very positive. So, so of course, when you're playing the same songs on every station over and over again, and this is across the board, I mean, even the different formats of radio, it's all still pretty limited. Just go look at it. It's all based on on the charts, you know, the charts kind of reflect what is available. And if you're hearing the same song, you know, three times a day, it

those are the ones that stick in your head more and more than anything. Um, so

I'm waking up on vacation, and I'm singing the songs that I've been playing on booster grand bought, my wife is singing the song she's playing like, I gotta I gotta hear TJ song again. What

don't forgive me. Yes. That's been in my head for days.

You know, and, and Bobby shell and just, like holy crap with with a very limited amount of exposure. It's happening. It's really happening. So this, this just, oh, this just blows my mind. But then I was actually talking with Moe. And, and we did a show, episode number three of moe facts with Adam curry. And this is something he's been preparing for a long time. In fact, it's been so long in preparation that

I have. I'm still in the middle of reading the book called a question of sedition, the government's investigation of the black press during World War Two, fantastic book, they were, the government has always been the United States government has always been very afraid of the of Black Media, Black Entertainment, black news, that they have always wanted to keep a lid on it.

And all of this came from the church, it all came from the preachers who were hooping, you know, which was a very rhythmic type of type of preaching. And that literally, you know, when you when you go through this episode with Noah, that really is the origins of hip hop. And so then they went after the preachers, you know, and then they stuck the name

get it. It works on me. I like.

And, you know, in 2007, we didn't have the same level of technology for musicians. I have now you get a Universal Audio Device or some other interface, you get a USB mic, some headphones, you get some software, you can create any just as good as any other artists. You still need talent, you still need this. It's still creating music. It's not simple. But it's it's technology has made it so this it's time has

third cousin was removed from David Plouffe, the Obama,

different spelling but yes, feeds with medium music, Rose 40% In the last month 824 it putting that into perspective, according to our statistician, Ron, we added 234 feeds in August, compared to only 90 in July. So this is accelerating feeds with value block saw a corresponding bump, adding 776 to finish it almost 15,000 prior to August, it took two and a half months to get that many feeds. So the snowball

Sir Jeff Smith or Jeff Smith. Now Jeff

Smith has been in my life since almost the beginning of daily source code early days of podcasting. And he kind of appeared in Jeff Smith. He's a Nashville guy is his he Jeff Smith wakes up in the morning and says, Oh, I think I'll write a hit. And and you can do that. And he's done crazy pianos, that's been his main source of income, although he's played on lots of records, you probably know, but he's a working

Oh, this is this is is he the origin of the no agenda jingle? I mean, like is he or at least towards the beginning

of the What do you mean the jingle like

you know the best part of waking up is that

I don't know if he did that one honestly it's it's so it's so hard to not have a second I have this so this is this is this is something he did way back when I'll just play a little bit of it

the ground join us next Saturday

say this Yeah, so

Jeff Smith just wakes up and is like, Oh, I'm just gonna write this and he did an acoustic version. And that but then I was like Jeff, do some jingles. And he's just starting to do jingles and the funniest stuff. I mean, he's done so much not just for for me, but you know, he'll do he'll do openers for anybody for any podcast. I know the one

that he's he did the one. build back better for someone else, right. Yes. Okay. Yeah, that's a great one. Yeah.

Well, that was that was during COVID.

When that shows, that shows that artistry because it's brief nearly is

beyond your freedom

but now,

the genius right there. Yeah.

So now with Valley For value. Now, I've been setting him up with people and then he'll just do it for a split in the value block. And it's been very enjoyable for him. He like, you know, Adam, I kind of dig this, this is I'm getting the SATs. And anyway, so an unlikely source comic strip blogger, who also knows Jeff from from years and years ago, that convinces him to upload some music to, to wave Lake. No. And, and so Jeff and I are talking Yes, now, and Jeff gets

The the script that builds this chart is an epic amalgam of edge cases and guardrail code. It, it's basically podcast Jenga. I mean, the nice thing is nuts. Like, me, do you want to like, do you want to throw the me? Do you want to throw the URL?

before? Before we? Before we do that? I have a question. Because it's just Tom, tell me what, what I'm looking at. Tell me what, um, you see what I'm what am I seeing? Because I mean, what's not complete? Is the the words at the top, but that's okay. We can change that. But what is you're looking at it right now. Yeah, I am looking at right now.

Okay, so there it is. Yeah, what you're seeing is if you click on the title, you know, that takes you to right now it takes you to the podcast index. Right, right podcast of that podcast. The it's ranked and you have you have the SAT count as we as best we can determine. And then you have the, the author of the podcast, which in this, you know, which in the case of a music medium podcast is the is the the musician.

Okay, two questions. One album, is it ranked by number of Satoshis? Or by number of wallets?

Both. So the way the way it is supposed to work? Is? Let's, let's see. So I'm trying to figure out how best to sort of lay this out. So the way it's the way it's working right now is the first it does, it does a calculation of a how many sets that were received, divided by how many boosts

total number of boosts or not number of wallets by number of boosts.

So it's basically it's the it's the number of boosts, but the one with the greatest average. So so if you're averaging high, if your average boost is high, you're, it's, it's I'm taking that as a quality signal. Now this is all very, is all very contingent in temporary, right. You know, this, this chart may change algos every five minutes or so. Okay. So right now, so what we did? So I did one, I did one

Okay. All right, that that now I understand the numbers a little bit. Yep.

But then But then I added a seven day run that aggregate that that added to those numbers. And to get them to get it to be more current. So like there's a 90 day for historical purposes only, but then it does a seventh it. Whoa, the run this morning was a seven day run, where it looked into and grabbed the number of the average boost amount coming in

Okay, so it's not actually the number of diverse wallets but it's the average boost by number of boosters and SATs for boost. Yes. Still scannable but much harder to do.

I would I would think it seems like it would take more you'd have to spend more to game it. Which it doesn't help a lot. But well, you have

to you have to, but it's not. It's not by different wallets so I could boost I could boost the gram 100 times with one wallet.

Right now that's true. Yes. Okay, so we'll in the read the reason that event I'm trying to head towards the algo that you described it's been so difficult just to get the basic numbers what are

the problems what what is the what have our app developers done to you? Show me and harm me on the app where the app developer hurt you.

So the okay we're where to start? I have a I have a actually I think I have in my clips I think I sent you a JPEG

have a lawyer's Oh yeah, they live boost to take a look I'm gonna take a look at this JPEG

okay. This this is the this is this JPEG is of drive discard I see. drips got boosted boosted a song on histogram ball Episode Five live. So this is a boost that came in during a live episode which

is where a lot of SATs flow to be honest a lot of a lot of it comes in on the live show.

Tons now what do you not this is what these look like this is coming from curieux Castro I know

what I don't see i What do you notice? I don't Well, just because of the message. I know what this was boosting but I don't know, the remote item.

Right. But but there's it's even worse than that. What do you what do you what else? I mean, like the remote item. And that's a whole nother discussion. But the lack of remote item. I was able to work around that. Really? Yes.

Oh by by getting the the devalue time split data from the feed?

Yes. Yeah. Now, it takes 30 minutes to run of course

the feed changes and goods change. Mess. It's a mess.

One thing you don't there's two there's two other there's two other critical pieces of information that are missing from this to the record that you're looking at. One is the episode GUID. Oh, because there's not was not

a well, okay, to be fair.

There's not a good to be had a live item can have a good but but the live item is ephemeral. So it's gonna go away. So the the only way to track what happened for for for me to go back and calculate this after the fact. It would have to be the live item would have to be have a Gu ID and that Gu ID would have to persist into the published episode as the same Gu ID so that I could go back and know what is what. So I can know that they match.

Ah, okay, is there anything that can be done with a T O V records that can help this?

Well, the TLV is just is just a it's just a reflection of what's happening in the feed right and the feed that is not giving that information

Yeah, but if the ephemeral nature of live is the problem. So, the lot the live live shows are going to be an issue in general.

Right so So in the absence of so this is what curio caster is sending right now during a live show. So in the absence of a of a GUID for the episode, and the absence of a remote item, remote feed good. I have nothing like it. If I could have the ideal situation is the remote feed good remote item good. Those were on there were gold right at our head. There's nothing nothing else has to be done except in dinner. Just have to do look up. So if those

could be added to the TLV record, they could be added technically, right?

Yeah, yes, yes. Yes, for sure. For sure. The other thing that's missing from the live is the timestamp. There's no There's no timestamp value in this because live timestamps don't really exist. They don't make sense. Right? For a lot for less so that. So in the absence of remote item, good remote, PHY guid in this TLV and the assets of times to have I just have no idea. So there's many, there are many boosts being missed because I simply can't do attribution properly.

In that case, you just ignore them.

I don't have a choice. Yeah, you have to like this is this room drift goes one, two, this is 123,456 SATs. Hmm. But it's I don't know how to I don't know where all I can tell is it says it's going to daydreamer but programmatic way didn't make that attribution and I don't I have no idea

unless you go into the, the, unless you are able to catch it in time to go in and get the value time split from booster gram ball. Oh, no. Yeah, I guess you can get it from the Okay, well, here's this is interesting. So when I do the show live, then that show is published. So booster gram ball Episode Five, the value time split should be the same as the live. Does that makes sense?

Yeah, for your show is probably going to be the same, right? So if some other shows they may mimic totally edit down their thing, and it may they may be all messed up. So if, if, if the if the TV's come in for live shows, if they, if they can put the remote PHY good remote item good in there, then we're good. We don't have I'll have any other problems right? In generally speaking, so trying to get historical information right now was very difficult. Because in there at

So this really doesn't make sense unless we have the TLVs carrying all the information you need.

It's a lot of it's a lot of work. And so it takes I think I mentioned it takes about 30 minutes to do a seven to do a run of seven days to get to for the whole build process to function. Right. That's why I was telling you on signal I didn't like I was trying to avoid database work. Because this is already such this is already such a huge, like, bag of scissors that I didn't want to get have to get involved in, in database. But I will I mean, there's really only the only way

I guess what I'm saying is do you want to would it make more sense for us to say hey, we need this information to be carried in the TLV before we can even move forward or do you want to continue on this path?

Now I've got the workaround for now. It's just gonna have to be Xeno the language that I put at the top is not it's not ideal, but it does it does make a point you know, it's this represents the best approximation of how many sets are flown to artists and it says the numbers could be higher but they can't be lower

now as I understand them, but the problem is the gaming aspect if we're not doing it based on number of separate wallets it's just gonna get gamed you know what I mean? Or am I misunderstanding

Yeah, yeah, cuz ya know, and understand what you're saying and that can be that can be done for to an extent. I mean, so like, so here's Steven Be like on that same jpg Steven D puts in the reply address the reply custom key Republican. So that can identify a wallet where we can say okay, this is a distinct wallet

Yeah, you don't have that information right right. If it's always coming from fountain then you're just gonna get a preimage I guess is all you get what else do you get? You don't you can't identify the wallet.

Right? Yes, because it's all key sin so you don't you don't really know. So it but you could also game a different you know, If we're if we're just looking at TLVs, which is all I've been doing so far, I haven't dug into the actual to really get to what you're talking about. And I wouldn't have I'd have to dig into the actual lightning invoice and try to figure out if there's anything in there that can this distinct that I can key on. And I haven't even got that for you.

Well, the cool thing is, there's no prize for being number one. You don't win anything. There's nothing you get. Ah, okay. I understand everyone's thinking very simplistically, as as as was I and I appreciate you explaining

So so the, here's the problem with here's a problem with key send in and why I doubt that there's going to be a way to identify specific wallets reliably. And if you're here's, let's let's just throw this out here. If if anti gaming of things was was easy, or a solvable problem, most of the problems on the internet would have already gone well who wouldn't exist? This is not an easy problem to solve

right. Now, the good news is the good news is the gaming here. only benefits the artist. Yes, and if they're gaming themselves, Well, you know, okay, you just jerking off, congratulations. Because you really you're really not going to get a prize from me. Now that said repetition, but I look at the chart today. And I'll just say what I'm seeing here. I'm seeing number one, Corey Keller, it's hard to feel

totally instant messages. You're saying this seems to match up with what you

what I feel what I feel because I've listened to everyone's podcast, I've listened to what everyone's playing. It feels right, that there's stuff in here that I haven't played. And this is a run of 90 days with a with a weighting of the last seven days. Is that what you said?

That's right. So the set the seven the last seven days, should is always going to be pro is always going to be at the top.

Because cherry on top is number 18 on this chart. And that's very, it's very possible. I mean, it's played out right. It's like everyone's played it and now it's not really being played that much anymore.

Blush allies read above that, which makes sense. Yeah, that one's kind of fallen off the rotation. Yeah,

yeah. make sense to me? Do we? What I've been what do you think? Should we should we tell people where they can find that can just start taking a look at it and we really have to change the language at the top though, because it's

most worth putting out there because because the the real

well, you don't have the out you don't have any explanation of the algo that that needs people need to understand what the calculation is based on

the the in regards to the gaming so the the gaming of this it is sort of like this this chart is in is is in arrears if you want to think of it that way. It it's it's charting things that have already happened.

How does Eric pee pee already find the URL? I was going to do this as a whole like is so a solo celebration dash bag

The ILS go ahead until it's go ahead and,

and okay, first of all we're going to we're going to talk about it we're going to talk about publicly. Okay? I've gambled that one off. There's two, two URLs. One is V for V music 101. I forgot it for myself. And what was it?

It's podcast index.

Top podcast index dot top is the one I like. There's also V for v top one hundred.com. Both go to the same place. I personally like podcasts index dot top. For some reason, it just feels funky. You know, it's like, wow, that's weird. And it's easier to remember podcasts index dot top. Yeah, this feels like, you know, what you're gonna see now as people saying, Hey, that's not enough. So you've explained that while the SATs will be more, we definitely need to put like

I've got, I don't know, it's nowhere near I think it's I think that part goes pretty quick. The hard part is the initial design of how to aggregate everything so that it's accurate, right. And I'm almost finished. I'm sort of almost finished with that process. I'm feeling better about what these numbers look like, each time I do a run. Yeah. Because each so so last night, all the last night, all of a sudden, I'm like, but here's the way this progresses,

Now, how did that happen? Yeah. And how did that happen? Yeah.

So then you go back and you look and you're like, oh, okay, there's another T O V issue. So like last night, for instance. I figured out that in at some point, Steven D must have made a change. And

Steven be making a change his code? No, no, no.

An ISO for this? Course.

Of course, that's what I love about him. Usually right before no agenda starts. Yeah.

So So at some point, he made a change. And the the, what was coming through as the episode guid was actually not a text field, but it wasn't an array.

Oh, no. Oh, no. So you have to account for both now?

Yes. Yes. Enduring and an array. All right. Yes, he thinks did at some point. So I saw it's like, all of a sudden, so cov start coming through his arrays. And I mean, the goo is right. And then and then they go back to string. So I'm like, okay, workaround. And then, and then all of a sudden, magically, I do another run. And every everything shifts around and things look better.

I just want to mention Ice Cube soup in the chat. I liked this. We call this a velocity chart. I liked it the velocity, the velocity of money, it was the obits velocity. I mean, it's literally velocity of an algorithm that you know, to be understood, but it's not most money or any its velocity. I like velocity just as a term. I mean, it's great marketing, and who cares what it means velocity. This is a velocity chart. I like

it. Yeah, little graph, a little graph.

At the top, it works nicely with my velocipede that I'm about to ride on

this. So that every time you do a run, which again, you know, it takes like half an hour every time so you have to wait a little while and to go get lots of snacks between runs into the each time it gets something gets better. As I'm almost at the end of that process. I feel like where things are beginning to consistently be feel correct.

And this is the first time I've seen the chart because we've been looking at it for about a week or so we can have that it really feels right. Yeah, I don't know about the numbers but just the ranking the diversity The the velocity VM that I would expect when something catches fire that it's going to start moving up our chart not because of the number

For sure. Yeah. So going back for a second. Go back for a second real quick. And in the this thing is charting stuff that's already happened, right? It's not you don't get how can I say this? You don't get more money? Or more SATs for having a shitty song. That's number one. No, no, because nobody's going to nobody's going to listen to that and pay you for that.

Right? So certainly not send you a message.

Right, exactly. Hey, really crap. Keep it up. And this, that's a good point. This is actually, so this chart is catching boosts and streams both. It's not just good. Good, good. Good. So you've already by the time you're on this chart, people have already played your song and enjoyed it. Right and paid you for it. Right. So that that's so the gamification while yes, it is it is possible to go to it is very possible to gamify

You don't Yeah, exactly. It's historical. It's, it's almost like when you look at a chart, a stock trading chart, just because what you see happen in the past doesn't mean it's going to work the same way. The next time you click Buy. Yeah, in fact, that rarely does the opposite.

Yeah. And so that that's that's one thing to just one thing to keep in mind. The other thing is like some pod, this is some podcast apps, like pod fans. Sam, if your list I sent Sam a message the other day, about about about this. So the the some some podcast apps are not sending enough

A bunch of Indian developers What do you want them to?

Know? No, Mustafa is Egyptian always Egyptian.

Same thing. Brown people come on.

Yeah, so he goes, so I sent him that thing. And he's like, Yeah, you know, we'll, we'll jump on this. So cool. Like that's, if you're an app developer, send in the TVs make sure that you're at least sending a base level Yeah, of, of identifiable information. Even if you're not to the point where you're ready to send the remote feed, good remote item good yet, at least, at least for the show. Like if you're playing booster game booster Grand Ball, at least send that feed good or

higher. And it's yeah, they should be and it's important because we want people to know what app was being used. I think this is a great statistic. You know, what what apps are are important in this game, quote unquote game, what podcast what episodes and this is all this as much as much as we can get. That's where we create an incredible discovery

Now that's an interesting thing about this chart is if you start to scroll towards the bottom, there's a lot of music on here that I have not aware of. Exactly. I didn't even know it existed, like long way by hurling pixels I think that may have been featured on Michael Newman show

Yes, I haven't played it I know of it. But I really only know it from the chart. No, he was better by Friday fresh know that no did not know that one day not know that okay, great name pretty fresh. Now this updates well right now it's updating whenever you do a run, obviously but what is the planned update once a week once a day? What does it mean every night every night midnight sexy, sexy, sexy, sexy. Sexy, sexy.

I've been called. Yes, I can understand. Sirens call but just gente no, no yeah, there's no there's Robert Downey but man like quick. Yeah, this I know this one. I know. Okay. All right. There's so and there's a bunch of stuff on here that Yeah,

and it's coming from all kinds of places. This is what's beautiful is not just from wave lake. It's from self hosting. Stuff that people are doing literally themselves or doing it through music side. project.com I love it. Shall we till we take I have some thoughts about tools, which I think is important. Next conversation to have. Shall we play a little song just to take a break take a breather?

Oh, I would love to they would love to play a song for this beautiful piece of technology. Yes

technology. And I'm going to since I spoke to him last night and I want to give them a good experience. I want to play a song by Jeff Smith. He uploaded an entire album and I listened to this album I said Jeff I've never heard they said oh yeah, it's from 2009 2009 It sounds like it's from yesterday. Again Jeff Smith the Jeff Smith sir Jeff Smith just gets up in the morning puts on one pant leg and he and he writes hits and they're short and poppy which I liked. Here's gravity sir Jeff Smith

been sitting here thinking that gravity around the universe reaching out and grabbing it's like gab or things pulling me back you been wondering if it's on reality or if somebody there was glad it means it's like everything's cool in the backseat you know, Campbell believe because it's true I've been staring at the night sky wondering what's really keeping me under it. It's like everything's calling me back to you don't need to see a test got to believe in you know, I know that

you sir Jeff Smith, gravity gravity gray is

a beautiful piece of technology. Jay.

So here's so here's the issue. That song, got lots of stats, I'm sure. Yeah. But now after the fact is going to be very difficult to attribute it because the connection between the GUID the connection between what's happening now and what gets published later where I have which is what I have to do the attribution on right that is going to be broken.

I'm sorry. Feel bad enough. You're bad now that I played it feel bad.

Damn use the this here's what would fix it temporarily in the remote. The remote feed. If you're not ready to do remote feed, good remote item good. If that's not yet work it put the live item guid in there. Because then at least I have the item still in the live items stay in the database for a long time. I can at least then go back and reverse engineer it

right. Here's the good news that this live item will stay in the podcast and 2.0 feed for a week. So you can go back and and it's invalid Time splits in there. So hopefully that'll help. So

with the live items, not the Vitas was not in the live item itself, though, right?

No, but what is in the hold on what I do have you there is Hold on a second. I have the what's the word I'm looking for? I have the live value link is in there. And you can get it from the live value link.

Yes, in real time, though. But I don't think you can get back and get it after the fact. That's like where there's a real web. That's like a real time web socket.

But it publishes into the feed, doesn't it?

What comes out of the socket? Yeah,

I have. I have the live value link. And that that I think that's put into when we take a look. I mean, take a look. Where's Steven? Steven B's got a real job. Apparently, he's doing something like work.

Occasionally he has to feed his family Boring,

boring. Let me see. Where's where's the 2.0? Come? I don't have this feed. Yeah. I don't have the hours. It was weird. Can you take a look in the feed?

Yeah, it is. Yeah, there's, yeah, there's there's value block in there. But there's no time splits.

But there's no live value link in that.

There is but I'm just I'm saying that that can't after the fact that only is that only helps you during the live event itself after the fact your kid doesn't get anything useful out of it?

Oh, I see what you're saying.

You can't query it for old data.

Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. I think if you look at well, how about this? How about if I give you the because it's I think it's the same? Yes, it is. If you it's the same hash. As I'm going to send this to you as the split kit, Link. I'm just talking gobbledygook here, check this check the signal. So you see this, it says split kit.com/live. And it has a hash that ends in DC. So that's the same as the as the web hook thing. And that will have that

yes. Grip all the song names, you have to put the song title in your email.

But at least I understand the problem, I get the problem. Alright, so

the best way to fix this is put the remote feed good, out of good in the in the TLV. That way, there's no ambiguity. It's all it all just works

cool. It's all running with scissors. People all have it. Now, I want to, I'm going to do something here that I'm suggesting. Well, I'm not even asking for approval, I'm doing it. Because this is, I mean, for artists is one thing we have done, we've always had this wonderful separation between podcast hosts and podcast apps. And it's very interesting, because you know, sometimes I hear podcast app

the hosting about roughly four gigs right now.

Brian, Brian shows you. There's a real problem. And James Cridland pointed it out. And I immediately went into action on this. The problem is the way it is set up because none of the podcast apps actually speak IPFS natively. It's all going through one gateway ipfs.io, which is IPFS labs. And honestly, almost every IPFS solution in the universe goes through that gateway. Which means that yes, while you're hosting, you know, you're hosting gigs and gigs, your

Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah. Object storage is cheap block storage, which is what this is, is not Yeah, exactly. On a VM, you know, block storage on a cloud cloud providers just in their virtual machines. Those are expensive. So that's the you're gonna have to have you're gonna have to have people willing to, you know, spend spend a little bit of money each month in order in for that you have to be able to get some of that back, you know,

yeah. So that we all we already have working perfectly well is is the storage part. And I love it. I see them coming in all the time. I get you know, 20 SATs, 50 SATs, whatever it is. Feels really good. It's like okay, I got my Node running, I have no idea what the actual cost is, to me but feels good. The problem is it was just very weak with the gateway. So and this and the, the infrastructure that we have can handle a lot. In fact, I'd say half of the no agenda stream

Oh, so I haven't really checked my Hello, Pat, since I started hosting IPFS and RayRay here on top five sets. Thank you from pod News Daily for hosting Patreon. It's Patreon exclusive content now in Spotify via IPFS. Podcasting

you go? Cool.

That's the first I haven't I just haven't been back. I haven't seen it work. But I'm evidently getting set.

Alex Kane says I want to see the source code. I don't know what he's talking about. But the

what source? Are you?

I don't know what source he's looking for. He doesn't

wish I can show you the source code for the chat to me for the charting script, so that everybody can have a good belly laugh.

What can you or is it just too embarrassing?

I don't have it. No, I don't care about that. Man. I've been putting code public for so long. I don't think I'm immune to that now. I guess I'll have it on this machine. I don't have access to but now I think I think that makes sense. I think that makes sense. I'm trying to think of any machines that I may have that I may be able to contribute. You know, well, the gateway.

Don't worry about it. This this is this is a good gateway. There's three or four machines that will run it. So you know, and it's not trivial, by the way. Turns out a gateway is not entirely trivial. trivial.

That may be that may be what Alex is talking about the gateway source code. I'm wondering what what Cody is using? Is there an open source game? Yeah. Oh, yeah.

Now there's a GitHub and everything. But it's just not trivial. Because you have to use we will have to use certain hashes I think or hashtags or something so that people don't abuse our gateway because we don't want it to be used for any we just want it to be used for this. Nothing but podcasts. Yeah. Not for people backing up their, you know, their drives or whatever.

Porn and movie election. Yeah.

So and, and, you know, and also for value for value podcast in general. I mean, work, it will work for that as well. But I just love to see. We're going to try and tighten that gap a little bit between. Okay, I just use sovereign feeds or cast up. It's always the problem has always been the hosting part. Yeah, that's all it's always the problem. And I don't want to be a host right. Because again, I know when it breaks the deal with this is broken. Sorry. Hang

We, you've got a heart out at 230. And we can't I mean, we've got I'm not even I'm not even a fifth of the way through my notes. So

what else do you have? What else gonna have to pull it? What else do you have on your list?

Well, I mean, got talked about the right radio medium proposals. Found supporting both 11 I was gonna get the wrong police stats page. Nos. noster. Labels. Proposal.

Oh, my God, I've hogged everything.

I'm just saying I think we I think we're gonna have to punt to next week for the rest of this because we we still got to thank people. Why

don't you want to pick one of those and something something one of those we can talk about,

but we get a bunch of boosts and stuff.

But I know that we may have we may have to punt on doing a whole list of boost.

Me like to get like three weeks worth of worth a donation stuff to do. And then the other thing was that there's very interesting discussion on that from Marco in them on the accidental tech podcast about their ad stuff. I've got a whole bunch of stuff I wrote down about the mean, we we can definitely talk about that next week. But the I guess the radio proposal, and radio medium proposal makes sense to talk about right now time distance is in context. Sure. The because

Wow. Okay, so let's define this because I know what I'm thinking radio means is radio stations who want to incorporate this into they want to incorporate value for value into their revenue model. To me, the way I read the proposal, and the way I've heard Sam Sethi talk about it and and this is Alex gates proposed proposed it right? Yes, I'm, I'm just thinking that he is looking at 100%. Retro. And here's the

Yeah, yeah, I see that so the radio medium is really a medium this says this says you can what what to expect from this feed is nothing but a single live item Yes. You're never going to have a regular items and this thing is Alex Alex leave the chat because I'd love to add a belt here he

bet he ragequit after I called him out No no, no, I don't think so. Don't quit on me bro.

No, I think he I think okay, I think that makes more sense to me now. Cuz I was thinking it first that it was like a it was meant to define a show a podcast that was going to be referencing other podcasts as its primary function. But now it's like well that's it yeah, that's too far. That's too fuzzy

Where's radio stream? Now? There's lots of talk radio, there's Finance, Financial radio stations, there's all kinds of stuff like that, which I and for me it's an app things like, Okay, I'm in an app and or even on I love by the way who did created who did the search drop down on the index? Yeah, that was Steven Crowder has been beautiful, beautiful. That makes so much sense. Like, okay, I want to look for a radio stream. And I want to listen to something that's about finance.

Okay, well, let me throw let me throw this twist at you. Okay. So, I find it painful. Every week when I see. I don't want to see the accidental tech podcast post on mastodon.

Yeah, we're going live and you can't get it in your app. I hear your pain. I share that. Yes.

It's like we're going live in 30 minutes. And then you'd have another post that says we're live now. I'm like, Oh, just put it in the feed? Yeah. Put it in the feed. Yeah. So like, what if there was a feed? That and again, I've I was tempted to just send a pod ping all out to create a bot, to just watch for that signal that watch for that to to come through and send a pod ping on their behalf? Just in a pub paying for this? I don't see why it isn't? I could but it

That's when you say radio? That's what that means to me. I mean, I don't I don't want to be writing the law here. I also don't think that, hey, if ATP doesn't want to use the lip protocol, then I don't want to use lip protocol is fine. No, no,

I'm gonna be sure that I just had that. Now I just had that thought in my head, like, would that be something that would still be alive thing? Well, I could see where people might want to do that for shows that they enjoy.

Let's look at a real world complicated example. Okay, no agenda stream. That, to me is a radio stream, a radio feed. It's 24/7. It's a mix of live pre recorded stuff. We're using it right now. That is that, to me is radio, it's 24 hours a day. Now, the schedule is very loosey goosey. But that's the kind of thing that would actually be interesting. And a lot of people have looked it nodes in the stream.com is a beautiful community project. And it's mainly bemrose who is

I thought at one point that the no agenda stream had a feed and an RSS feed, but I don't see it. And I may be kidding. That would be, that would be a way to that would be a good sandbox for this,

I think would be a fantastic sandbox. Because, again, looking forward, I'm not so interested in the guy who manages Radio One for the BBC, I'm more interested in bemrose who's managing this chaos of God knows whatever sama and I don't

there's an ISO for the what's for dinner. Yes. Oh what's for dinner? Yeah. Okay, we seriously gotta thanks for people because we were getting low on time. Let me

let me thank thank a couple people have been boosting live first of all, if you don't mind, we'll do those right up front. Mr. Robot 7777 V for V for technolo. gy. Eric P. P. 33,333. Fletcher. You guys are music 2.0 Pioneers with 3333 We've got blueberry 77 and 77 Damn you gravity always bringing me down. Dred Scott 123456 their

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welcoming sir Jeff Smith to the booster to the value for value music blueberry with 17,776 we encountered unusual scenario I wanted to take our pre shows and enable wallet switching technology. Of course. I added these new items to our main feed and posted them along with the regular episodes and no agenda stream is going to take the most recent item in the feed meaning one would get skipped everything is groovy now

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deeply invasive into the app and then I'm gonna send this rude ward 3333

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That's right. Sure does. Should we do the papers first? I'm sure we have some people that think there and and then maybe the top booster grams, because it's gonna be it might be just too much in general. Thank everybody from three weeks. I don't know. Tell me. Yeah,

we'll give it we'll give it a good go. Yeah. Marco. $500. Yeah.

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Yeah, yeah, for sure. And it means a lot because I know there have been other donations and stuff are down. So appreciate that. We'd

like to help them get more money. Live booths, can you imagine that? That could do that could make a difference for them.

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It it needed no comment? Yes. Buzzsprout not only sent me a road caster duo, but they sent us $500

Thank you. Thank you so much. I love those guys. Really is look. It's not the lightning community that's keeping us alive. I'll tell you that. It's the podcast hosting community.

Yes. No, thank God because we we had we had a $200 a month PayPal. Donation. They didn't drop. So we're this is Ooh. Yeah. Yeah, this is this is good. It's good to see Yes. To see things continuing here. Yeah, we did get a one timer, a $50 donation through PayPal from David Marcel can Novus Oh, thank you says thanks for all the work and podcast index and 2.0. And sorry for the trouble with KDE express more refresh would be needed while all with with all tests we are doing with transcripts

go yes. All right. I'm so sad that I love what Nathan is doing with transcribe.fm. But he does he's not able to do the automatic host detection.

I don't know what your what do you mean host section? Yeah,

no, no speaker detection?

Oh, that.

Can I really want to send my money to him?

Is it a limitation of the back end that he's using this?

I think it's just the you know that it can't do it. You know, it's not easy. By the way. It's not a simple thing to do. involves manual work, because I just don't I don't want to break pod friend and people who are counting on him now by taking Yeah,

it's got the little the little heads popping up. Yeah, it's cute. It's cute. It's cute goodies.

I like it. All right, we

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I see the flag emoji but it is so tiny. I cannot happy

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What is this? What is this emoji? Maybe I wonder if I can copy this out into the chat and see if somebody else can can

can get to see if say emoji even works. Okay, I got

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I gotta tell Franco's in Italy right? Yeah. So I don't know if I told you this but podcasting in Italy is poppin it's breakout pee everybody's pod talking about podcasting all of a sudden.

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But no good Podcast, the podcast where you do? We checked in the hotel. The manager came out. Mr. Korea Hey, you do a podcast?

Yeah, the word get around. Oh, yeah. Nope.

Did like we have some wine for your curry in the keeper podcast. Because I guess Spotify maybe promoting podcasting there but some I think some Twitch guys start doing podcasts is just one of those things. Podcasting is booming in Italy. So I everywhere I went I said hey, there's an Italian podcast that made by an Italian it's cast thematic and it kicks butt. So I was promoting it.

We got boots on the ground. This isn't his sort of do you get an insurgency? Yeah, Italy. Podcast insurgency.

Podcasts insurgency.

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LinkedIn nostril band. What is that? I don't know. Okay, this is great. This is from Fia, Jeff, founding member of the Ellen URL mafia. Nos RSS. This is his node RSS is stupid, because you can't link to one specific RSS entry. All these years podcasts have been distributed with RSS but every single time someone wants to link to a specific episode, they must hope the author has a URL for that episode. They can link to or they will link instead to a page in the service that hosts

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Thank you Austin. I'm so glad that opened the email because we would have missed you until next week

so even though we didn't get to even half of your list I think everyone enjoyed your story about the road caster I certainly did.

Right away so

no no no, we didn't waste a second No not a second was wasted not at all I'm

hurt in my heart because I wanted this to be a humongous reveal in and like of Dave's got a road caster but it just wouldn't work.

You're going to get it you're gonna get it working. You know, let's think positive the road caster pro oh two let's go Monson causes positive Think positive Think positive is gonna love that guy. Yeah, we should have we should have him on the show

he can tell me how to reset.

So I'm going to show the dog and you know a dog actually has stomach issues. So I'm gonna, I'm gonna get out I gotta take her outside. So she's in squirt. And then I'm taking it to the to the vet, I believe me, she kept getting up. I'm like, oh, no, just calm down. You're good. You're good. Don't Don't get up and squeeze it. So I'll probably won't have the show posted until around four o'clock. Just so everyone knows. Because you know, people are like so used to me posting it

So but

I still got to take her. We're not using that goober. Or we're not using that as an ISO.

Of course it was Bouverie they did that because he's got the dirtiest mind on the planet.

The problem is the ISO button takes the takes too long. Let me see. I think actually have the ISO. If we can get oh, there it is. Okay, let's, let's see. Let's see if I can issue so I'm gonna. I'm gonna get out. I gotta take her outside. So she's in squirt. I'm gonna get up. I gotta take her outside. It's hard to ISO. Yeah, it's

too much good. I

got no way I can. Well, yeah, we'll use that for next time. Uber. Yeah, because we had ISOs like an ISO score. I mean, yeah. Dave brothers. It's good to be back with you, man. Yeah, and glad you remembered my number. You're so mean. So unnecessary. Hi, everybody. We'll be back next week with another board meeting. Dave Have a great weekend my brother. Take care everybody thank you chat room.

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