Episode 138: Lost on Wood

On casting 2.0 for June 23 2023, episode 138 were lost on Well, Hello once again, you're back with podcasting. 2.0 We are the only boardroom where pillow fights are encouraged everything happening in podcasts index.org the podcast namespace, yes, the future and the now of podcasting. And of course all that's going on at podcast index dot social. I'm Adam curry here in the heart of the Texas Hill Country in an Alabama the man celebrating 100 years of his 19 incher. Say hello to my friend

Do you? Do you refer to the 19 inch rack?

Yes, yes, this is. What does it Where does your mind go? You dirty man.

It went to 19 inch rack? Exactly. Yeah, I read

that on podcasting. Next auto show it is to the 100th anniversary of the 19 inch rack, which seems like a long time.

It seems like a very long time. 1923 What were they putting in racks in 1923?

Exactly like, like a mini steam engine? Did you have? Did you have steam engines when you were a kid? This may be something on my generation.

I think this is a little prior to me when I was growing up. There was a steam engine kit?

Well no, it's mostly you, you could get a steam engine and you'd mounted on it, you know, with your dad, of course you'd mounted on on some wood. And then you can get all these attachments, you could get a new string up like little guess what kind of spring based iron belts, some rubber band belts. And you'd have these little fuel blocks that looked a bit like sugar cubes not to be mistaken with sugar cubes,

I mean, like that's back when that's back when lots of things that you did as a kid could kill you.

Yeah, a chemistry set. Did you have a chemistry set?

I never had a chemistry set, but I had plenty of other stuff that could kill you. Like do you know that you know that? Like there's that book was like the Golden Book, Golden Book of chemistry or something like that? I don't know there's some famous book from from that, you know from days gone by where they actually banned the book because they were afraid that oh kiss explicit about nuclear

really gonna build a nuclear bomb at home or something like that.

I'm sure I'm screwing this story up. But I mean, there's it was something like this chemistry book got banned. Because they were like, Nick, this is a little too much

interesting. No, I had well, the one that really got me started on my journey was RadioShack 101 project 100 projects and one which I have I still have it by the way, I still have it with the manual. And so it's this big. I don't know it's probably like a foot and a half by a foot and it's made of wood and in it. You had all these components resistors capacitors a relay? Oh yeah. All this stuff. Yeah, diodes and

you know this is about you're making a bomb is what your photo electrics timer countdown

did not have a timer but I did create my first transmitter with this it had an FM transmitter and you know, with with one transistor, and you could hook up your head, a crystal earpiece, which you could also use as a microphone. And I remember, you know, stringing a bit of wire out there and then receiving it on the FM radio in the house. And that's when I learned about antennas. Like hey, if you make a bigger antenna, you get further Our that was the beginning of, of Adam's roof walking career.

Yeah. And that's when they in the couple of weeks later they came and knocked on your door.

There was a couple of years later, but yeah, when I when I got into single sideband Seabees, which are which we'd have to get from the states that were illegal in the Netherlands and I had a half a half wavelength, GPA, so it'd be five and a half meters on the roof. And people would hear me through their TV. Yeah, that's when people came over and said, Why do I hear you on my TV? It's actually your TV. That sucks

show maybe some ferrites

Yeah, that was the beginning of my tinkering broadcasting career. I was 14

you automatically lose everybody who's younger than let's just say 30 When you say would like they're lost they lost me or would like because as soon as you bring wood into the equation, it's like what

word what is up with that really? Talking about why why do I lose him? It would

I got some nails and some wooden or like, what is this language? I don't understand what you're saying. Is this English? I mean, nobody makes any no kids make anything out of wood anymore.

Remember, we build we build go karts? Oh, yeah. Yeah, totally. Yeah, you get some wheels off of something. Usually off of your sister's, you know, training wheels or something. And then you put an axle on there. I had a break, which was literally a hole in the middle between my legs with an iron pipe. Sticking out pull it back. You're scraping along the sidewalk

speed and an iron pipe between your legs. Really well.

Oh, man. And these days the kids are getting a damn scream. They're taking iPad kid.

Yeah, they just they just go brain dead in front of a piece of glass all day. It's it's it's a shame. I think we should bring man yells at Sky. That's

right. I think we should bring back the we should bring back the the steam engines that was cool. They have some there's a steam engine. Like a small museum here in Fredericksburg. And I drive by it all the time. And I'm always like, I gotta go visit I just haven't gotten around to it yet. But basically, they have the large versions of what I had Steve mentioned was the coolest thing.

I mean, there's a there's a thrill with things that can kill you.

I just point out speed does not kill. A sudden lack of speed

is also as new as Newton correctly observed. Yes.

Steve as the speed does not kill you. Yeah, yeah. No, we're also safe. Everything's safe. Just say it was the Golden Book of chemistry according according to Jean bean. Oh, is that that's the one that came to the Golden Book of chemistry experiments. That must be that must be I

think it has something to do with nuclear but maybe it was just explosives or something like that just add on

Did somebody say boom

I love that old stuff a little

sorry. Well, no that was a there was the isobar

it can kill you

just point out speed does not kill ya yeah, I so but not exactly right okay.

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let's do we have a guest today in the boardroom and I do I do want to bring him in pretty quickly but let's let's do because he's one of the very important person to the project. What are your I do what are your eyes? Oh, so you brought ISIS for end of show which is good. So let's get them out of the way now what which one you want to me?

I feel like I feel like more of the same is kind of appropriate more or

the same but faster. Because Claire it's Claire Daly

It is clear from Ireland. Yeah, and there's you can play the other one if you want to Don't believe the hype.

Ooh, I like Don't believe the hype. They're both

I like Claire day. Yeah, that's or AI clips. You know this or

I'd like Claire Daly in general. She's pretty good man. Me too. For she's she's a real socialist and I'm, I'm listening to her clip. She's a socialist member of European Parliament for Ireland. And there's my horrible Irish accent. Banos because online too.

Like she's, she's not one of those, like wishy washy ones that are like, yeah, that's not real socialism. She's like, Yeah, let's do this. You know, she's

hardcore socialist. And I'm always like, I really agree with what she's saying. Like how much of a socialist am I?

Well, you me you grew up in the Netherlands. You can that'd be I mean, there's something in there right?

I think a social aspect Yeah, to a degree and have gone nuts there. Now that I think that may have been delayed a bit, but the idea was for homes under 350,000 euros, you are not going to be allowed to sell it unless the government would appoint the person who could buy it in order to get people who can't bid up the price. The fair chance at buying a home. Which really, yeah, really, really. It's kind of

yeah, that's, that's

very interesting, off the rails. Now, I'm not quite sure exactly what is going on. But I saw Stephen Bell, who doesn't know Steven bell of curio caster, ln beats, sovereign feeds, lamer, Muse house music side project, and he can also wire your entire house filled electricity can design that for you? He was going to be demoing the split kits live today. I saw a post and I'm not quite sure he didn't give me any

I always get nervous when people in when people set stuff up like this because

even ballet Stephen Bell is running with the scissors. Let me see. So the split kit lives as a link. And okay, so this is so this is his his own split kit, which means he set up this this block has value block himself. Episode 138 Live, it has a boost button. It has our artwork. It has a boost button, which is not doing anything. It's not doing anything. Why not? I'm hitting it but it's maybe it's no, I'm hitting it, but it's not doing anything. hit it harder. Hold

Oh, that's okay. Yeah, that's what he's

coin Amsterdam thing that we're talking about as a first test, which I think is beautiful.

So he must be watching his own socket.

Which is illegal in Amsterdam. Even in Amsterdam. You cannot watch your own socket.

Well, he's in Texas. It's not Yeah, yet. Anyway, San Antonio.

I think so. Yeah. They do weird stuff in San Antonio. Cool.

I like how I like how our guest who's currently in the lobby is also posting in the chat room. We could have just like we could just asked him.

No, no, no, no. Let's leave it this way. That's too funny. VC do let him sit outside.

Sweat. Yeah.

Just Just one thing. I want to talk with you about Spotify. They have. I mean, they have gotten more promotion for Spotify podcasts. By getting rid of Meghan Markel. They might actually hiring her.

That was the best thing. That's the best thing they ever did.

I mean, they chose you. They really don't understand celebrity. They certainly don't understand this type of celebrity because the only time Meghan Markel and Harry are interesting is when they do something stupid as when they leave a place. Well, I mean, so that will be one but you know, and it's amazing. How a company what a Spotify worth it because it's gotta be worth $30 billion. You think market cap, you know? No, it's got to be less than the market cap of

from the furlough. Yes, of course,

which may have been the plan all along. Again, more promotion for Spotify. But it's slanderous when you part ways there's usually a clause like Non disparagement clause, it may not have been in there, I'm not sure. But when you it's not good form. Now I just find

I find it hard to believe that the dude that called them Grifters, I find it hard to believe that he did that just purely on his own and didn't get in didn't get the go ahead from from the hunter. No, I

think I think he did it purely on his own. But I think he was winging it. Yeah. Oh, yeah. And I think I think there's huge frustration within Spotify. Because what it's all about money. It's like, well, you know, and from what I understand the this Bringer guy. Now he sold us, he sold the ringer for a guest $200 million. I'm sure he didn't put it all in his pocket. But he must have done okay, maybe there's an urn

the there was always a what do you call it? He was always like a they never made good bedfellows. But don't don't the dawn Ostroff Hollywood strategy Yeah, clearly did not fit within the pod of Spotify ethos. Like it's a, it's sort of like two companies that I've seen this in my industry. With a few really good examples of two companies that merge and own paper, it looks like a perfect match. But you get in there and the the culture of one does is like really irritating to the

This is I mean, this was so predictable. In fact, when when I was at Price Waterhouse, interviewed me for their strategy document. I said, Here's what I learned. When we did this at pod show. We, you know, we brought in the first 1314 15 shows, which would be our anchor shows now granted was a lot earlier than was 2006 NBS Dawn and drew Cali, Lewis Maj. Weinstein, you know, a number of rock'n'roll geek show, and we

pulled they pulled a Steven Crowder. Yes, except

I know these guys like record company. Well, yeah, that's exactly what Spotify still doing today. And it doesn't work the same is to say I've done roll ups. But I rolled up 15 companies into one from my own company on ramp and distinct new ideas. We took it public, very, very hard to do culturally. We had guys in Denver, who different from the guys in Atlanta who are way different than the guys in

I want to dive into this for a second because I think it, it sort of hit me. So I don't I get a couple of parts to this here. Number one I, I was, I don't normally listen to Joe Rogan. He's just not. I'm not a guy who likes interview shows typically. So it's just not somebody I listen to very much. But I'll listen to like when your own or specific people. And so I listened to the RFK interview.

Yes, I watched that we actually watched that one on the Spotify app on Roku.

Oh, okay. All right. I'll worry

about very television like experience actually.

Just general observation. RFQ. A buddy of mine sent sent me a message and said, Can we please Can Spotify please fix RF ks voice? And I was like, no, no, no.

It's an actual affliction. He has your voice

in I was like, I was like, No, see, this is this is part of his superpower. Correct? He's, he's difficult to listen to. So you have to you have to pay very close attention to understand what he's saying. This is a this is a this is part of his thing. Yeah, I agree.

And I've been playing clips of his for years and years and years. And I've met him. I met him in the context of ah, it was Kleiner Perkins golf weekend or something. And he was schlepped along for because it was to benefit the Special Olympics, which is his grandpa his grandmother think unit. Yeah. Right, whatever. And he was involved in that. And so his voice has already kind of liked that. But what I've noticed is that the more he speaks, the

Well, that the so I was I was listening to this. That's just as common as I was listening to this. And, and then I've got I've got a clip here. It's from that show. And it's I think it's about three minutes. But I would like he starts talking about these different mediums that have happened through the years. And he's saying how he thinks that podcasting is going to be the political medium of this next cycle, maybe maybe into the future. Yes.

I'm not going to win this by winning the sympathies of the mainstream media. I really think these podcasts have the capacity to change politics in this country this year. And you know, it's interesting, because in 1960, my uncle, President Kennedy had, you know, realize that this new media called television, which had never been used in a political campaign before, it was a media that was very friendly to him

I, I've heard him say this elsewhere. I heard him say this, of course, as well, but I've heard him say it in other places, he expanded that by saying, you know, he's, Joe Biden's already announced, he's not going to debate which is very odd for I'm not going to debate other Democrats for the nomination of the party, which is, which is really not the way the system is supposed to work. I mean, it's, I guess you can do that. And he added to that he didn't think Trump was going to

He's doing a carpet bomb strategy on the Yeah.

And I think it's very, and I think you and I agree. We like his anti war stance. You know, we're, we're socialists, like we don't want war. We don't like any of this. And I think he's, he's, he's hitting some. He's hitting some buttons. DeVore ag disagrees with Ms. Mayer. But I say I mean, in the works, also anti war, but I said, I think he's, I think he's got a strategy here to work with a three ma de ma.

His message. His message is, I forgot what speech it was. But he he loved it. He compares his message to Martin Luther King. And if and in this way, Martin Luther King had the you know, the speech that got Martin Luther King killed was

called the the wages of war

Yes, yeah. And you're Brett you when you when you treat other people like an honor Yeah, enemy like enemies. You will will eventually teach your own citizenry to look at every one that way, even each other. Yep. And that that's exactly the speech and the message that got MLK assassinated. And he's saying, I'm going to bring that message here again, because the same thing is happening again, this we're, we're in the same scenario, nothing has changed.

And that's, and that's, there's a difference. That's not what Trump did. Trump was pro military, not pro war pro military kept us out of the war. But he was pro military. So no one was no one was on his asked to kill him. And I think Bobby Kennedy is doing something very brave here. He's like, Look, I know, history shows, it's a dangerous position to take. Bus,

I read somebody online that was kind of sort of poking fun at him saying that he was taking precautions and that kind of thing. I think, I think you're, I think you're alone. If you think that because if you if if you if you, if any anybody out, you know, out there, if they've had two family members assassinated, you better believe you're gonna be scared, doesn't

it's not big, but those wages of war. And that speech he did in New Hampshire, I think was spot on like that, if you're gonna, you do this all the time, like those guys, you know, the towel heads, the Russians, whatever, Putin, Bob, then all of a sudden, you're doing it to your neighbor, and you're doing it in your own home, and it's three to five people come through, it's come true.

But this was the part that got did. This is sort of like what what hit me though, because he talks about, he goes through that scenario where he talks about the different audience sizes. And he says, you know, K Take, take CNN 350,000 400,000 people, something roughly like that. Now compare that to what he say

soccer, soccer with 4 million, and then with Robo with 40. On it

was 40. So let's let's do that. Let's just say 400,000 For CNN, and 40 million, 40 million for Rogan. Now look at the revenue, excuse me the profit, or just the revenue of those two things. So you have to you have two mediums here you have Rogen with a contract of $200 million. Give or take, then you give or take CNNs latest saw an article a couple weeks ago, CNN took a hit this year, they had

only only only $700 million.

Only $750 million in profit. Yeah, not revenue,

profit. Well, here's the fun thing.

So what do the poor, bring on the math there? For $4 million. If you if you I mean, if you do the math, based on audience size, you're going to end up if add those numbers. If if CNN loses the cable package deals and has to compete on in the same playground, as podcast, digital advertising, the numbers end up they'd be dead, they'd be dead, they'd be dead. I mean, you're talking you're talking $10 million a year in in profit.

But that but that's the thing, that model because CNN didn't make the $700 million from advertising and contrary, there's only a fraction the money is made on carriage fee. So they get $1 per household. I'm just it could be more but it's usually about $1 per household from each share big cable company. And that's where they make all their money from and then the advertising is kind of bonus except the number one Bonanza time for all American advertising is the election year

Yeah, that's a good point. Because you have so you have the big thing you can sort of like word it this way. Right. Joe Rogan is the biggest let's just for for shits and giggles here. Let's just call it a podcast. Rogan being the biggest podcast. The his deal was $200 million. Yeah, CNN as the smallest cable network.

It's upside Now maybe was 750 million?

Yeah. So if you if you just work that out, there's no you're right. I never thought about it like that. You want to take politics out of out of the media? Yeah, just give me that. Yeah. take politics out of the media.

So take money. Take money out of politics. I'll take money out of politics. Yes, yeah. Yeah, money and politics, but it's organic. It's going to happen. It's organic. And, and people will not fall for you know, the astroturf like, Oh, this guy's been paid. You know, just to have this guy on people and fall but they're going for authenticity. Whether you like him or not Rogan's authentic He's true to his his self. And you and you won't be able to avoid Bobby Kennedy Jr. Because

Like Theo von or something like that?

No. Well, he might even be up to Vaughn. But now the the comedians are left wing guy. Yeah,

that's Bill Maher

Bill Maher Bill Maher is gonna be hated when he has him on because you will you know, he will he doesn't care. But he might have him on his podcast instead of on the on a show doesn't matter. And let's just celebrate the fact that we've made that possible. Because we have with you we are making this possible and ensuring that it will continue. Because believe me, if Rogan comes back to RSS he's gonna get he's gonna get thrown off of stuff. He might not even be able

Yeah, you'll get a platform for sure. Yeah,

yeah. So Jimmy Dore is the left wing guy. I'm thinking, Oh, Jimmy Dore. So why don't we bring in our guest today who has been a very big part of the podcast, podcast 2.0 project. In fact, I would say he is an unsung hero. Because he has done so much that is just not Front of House stuff, but is critically important. Now, you may know him from the transcript

Hello. You make an entry. I

love that entrance, man. Way to go. Hello, everybody. Steven crater.

You're a poet. You're a regular Stone Cold Steve Austin. Stephen would like it. I think I hope you've heard me say this before. But just the amount of things that you do that save me time. And is I just want to thank you personally for that. It's been. It's, it's a huge, huge help to me, just all the documentation. You know, all the stuff on the website. I mean, like, it's like, I think it and it just happens that it's just so valuable. I just want to say thank you.

You're welcome. I, I appreciate the document, Kevin, valid and up to date documentation. So if I can be the one to create it, it works for

me, which is like the number one thing at every company, every project, I mean, everything I've ever been involved in, right down to, of course, developers not documenting their code, but that's what it is. But documenting what we're doing is I mean, it makes us professional I love saying to people either come on in and we got documentation. Get dogs, we got dogs, baby got dogs. Where are you coming from? Man? What do you do in real life? Because obviously, no one can live off of what this is.

Yeah, I'm a software developer. And a test group at a company in Oregon. Oh,

so do you. You said at one point. I thought you said that you weren't. You weren't full time developer you were doing so you were doing documentation as part of your job.

Don't get that on full time. But I work in the test group. So we live off the docks. And so you know, okay, push the developers that create this stuff we tested, have valid documentation. And so

what do you say? Are you a JavaScript as your main gig?

No, I write in Python, mostly.

Okay, well,

how is been learned just mostly through this project?

Oh, you've gotten some value back for all that work. Nice. Yeah.

That will let you know it is admitted. Just like just like most of the rest of us, you know, you do JavaScript because you have to not because you want to. Like, that's so. So when you do all the React stuff, you just kind of learned that organically through just kind of having to do it.

Yeah, just looking to see what we were already doing and just trying to follow that model or searching for it. answers. So what I'm trying to do now,

so tell us how you found out about the project and how you kind of got involved in it.

No agenda listener.

Oh, there we go. Even in Oregon, huh? Yeah. We've saved some people up there. So okay, so you heard about podcasting 2.0 from no agenda, and then just decide to check it out. What was the path?

Yeah, yeah. So I came over and started listening. And then when podcasting became a thing, you know, I started messing around with that, and that's where puffing Dogwatch came from. And then, you know, you said, like, Corbell URL before, and then, you know, just keep it up. Just a proof of concept, kept it as a running bag. And so, yeah, and then, you know, the, I can't remember if the docs or the website stuff came before or after, but you know, you know, originally, we

dev Matic dev mean, man, you're going back three years, when we had dev meetings, we remember that beginning we'd have like a Saturday dev meeting.

No, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's

hands everybody in the talk.

Stephen was like every one of those, you know, that. So when you when you went in, when you are made the same, you maintain the two different NPM packages? Is it one for the index API and one for for pod pain?

I don't have any NPM packages for package index, I've provided updates to one from someone else.

Maybe that's what I'm thinking? Do you have a JavaScript library for pod ping, though,

we have in a Git repo, we have a watcher, just JavaScript watcher library that's just there for an example, code. And it's based on what puffing Nightwatch is using, but just in plain JavaScript instead of react, which is what puffing Dot Watch is using.

Oh, but piping it with our watches using React. Yeah. Okay. And this is the React thing I keep bringing up because I'm fascinated by stuff I don't understand. And like, it's sort of like this sick fascination that I have out to watch people build stuff with this thing that I don't be, you know, ever use or having any experience with? And, like, is it? Is it the right choice? This gives me a chance to ask you some stuff. In, in your opinion, is react, is that the right

I'd say it's good enough? I'm not. I mostly don't do web development. So I haven't looked at a bunch of the different options that are out there.

Python stuff is all back end.

Yeah. It's just you know, it's used to test the products. There's a bunch of communication interfaces. And so we're talking USB or serial or stuff to the hardware devices.

Alex said, Well, you put in Steven on the Hot Box. Answer answer questions about pipelines and frameworks even go

what is the I mean, what's the main thing that keeps you interested in the project? I'm always I always like to know about that. Because you know, actually, today is probably the first time you're even really receiving SATs as a split of anything because you don't really have a split. I don't think in most in most, you should now I think about it. You should have a permanent split.

We've done split for we haven't done it for a while. Yeah, I

remember that. Yeah,

I was on I had a split and an episode that I wasn't good. So yeah, that was interesting. You know, and then how did that feel? It was good. Yeah, it was nice to see you know just had happening and what it looks like you know, since I don't do app development that you know, would see it normally I don't have a podcast myself. So that's something right so normally good to see.

Okay, can I want to have a quick kind of can I call a vote here I'd like to make a motion to put Stephen crater because we don't have enough split can I put Stephen crater in our in our block here So moved. Second die and approved. Okay, you're in for good now, Stephen already. But you got 10% For today, like most of our guests, so we're actually is probably a top end guest I know. I don't do I could do 10% or 5%. I can't remember. I don't know. Regardless, regardless

sauces. There's no way

there's a lot of sushi. But we really appreciate what you're doing, man, it really makes us look professional, it's great to have you in there tell us about transcript data, because that just came kind of out of the blue.

Yeah, I think it was a Mitch ped posted on the social about someone to try to deal with all the different format types. And I commented that, you know, it's something I could look at. And so I started it, and then it went, Okay, you know, it was my first NPM package that I've published. And so there's some learning curves there. And then. Yeah, so it came together fairly easily. Now, it's just supporting it.

Sounds good. Tell me how to tell. Tell me how all that. Well, why did you write it in JavaScript first, rather than Python, if that's what you're most comfortable with?

Since Mitch asked, and all their stuff, JavaScript, I wrote it in JavaScript. And that's what most of the web's based applications are using some types of JavaScript. So it's useful for them.

Yeah, that we have. That's a kind of a constant thing. So many people's sort of stack is built on JavaScript. And you it's like, you can make things work. But it's almost like it's almost like you have to adapt what you're doing to like the web stack rather than because because otherwise he had to spin. Somebody has to spin up a you know, a web server, VM or something and run this thing or a Docker or something, and then you got to make an interface for it to get the data out. I don't

Yeah, it seems like you know, from my understanding, a lot of the web is now leading JavaScript, either on the front end or the back end of some type. And, yeah, obviously, the bigger the site, and the more they may do Python back ends or PHP stuff, but JavaScript seems to be super popular.

Let me throw let me throw something at both of y'all. Because I've been working on the been working on the dashboard. I guess. I've got I've got something for you. I've got some legit stuff.

I am ready. I mean, you've been teasing this like, Oh, I did it. I scuttled it. I did it again. Right and ready. I'm ready. The genie Genie with it. Go. Oh, here we go.

Let's see. Go to your Steven, you've got a you've got an API account, right? Yes.

You're gonna ask me to log in. Right. Yeah, I don't think I know

what that is. Is it's not possible.

You should have prepped me for this one brother. Yes. Let me see. The password. Well, did I somebody I mean, I'm sure but

Steven, you can go log into this

may not. This may not be something that I can pop into that quick. Let me see. Ne Ne Ne Ne Ne Ne. I just got my bid award. And I've just been using that religiously for about two three weeks. So thank you, Dave. Yeah, that's secure.

No, that's not your fastball. No, that's a fee, but I'm setting you up here. I'm setting you up. Okay. And I have my screen blank down on the stream.

Okay, yeah, I can't do this. I can't do anything here. You can't log in. No, I don't know where it is, brother. I know. I know. But you look. I mean, it's on a different system. Probably. Well, let me give you my password. No, you're talking. Not that. No, you're talking security. Okay. Yeah, this

is the way real security happens. Yeah, okay.

Hey. It has nothing on us, man.

All right. Yes, small company security.

So where do I go? What do you are? Oh, am I going here? Okay, let me let me go into podcasts. index.or. Hold on a second API. API that podcast index.org Oh, wait, I may have guessed right. I have my own. I have my own.

Oh, you found?

I did. Okay, got API keys is where I am now. Yes. Okay. All right. Let

me let me. Let me

delete it from here. That's not a good idea. I'm a publisher. Alright, log is so sexy.

Okay, so up, you know, up at the top, you see the search now?

Yes, yes, I do. I do. Okay, now, the feed in that you sent me earlier.

Alright, so, yeah, just put in that feed URL

do to do scan, reset, delete. I'm gonna scan it right now. scan, scan, scan. Nice. This is sexy.

I mean, don't don't let's not get too carried away. This is ugliest sin, but one scan

is green. resetted yellow delete is red that this is good for me. What's this checkbox next to its number?

Okay, let me let me copy this and paste it in here.

You guys in the chat? You want my key? Hold on a second.

All right. Yeah. Okay. So do you see how if you see how it shows up, like, like, shaded orange now? Yes, I do. Yeah. Okay. That means it's in the queue to be

polled. Oh, okay. Got it. Okay, so

if it's if it's just white, like normal, and it's good, you know? Yeah. Then yeah, you're good has

a priority minus one. That's right. Yes. So can I change any of this stuff or No, I can't change any of that.

Not yet. Yeah, so let me give you the rundown here. So if you see where it says Puck is as podcast GUID, and it gives you the GUID Alright, so click on click on that click on the GUID

call. Okay, it pops up to identicals

Yeah. So, this is let me this is a search box. You can search by term, like phrases you can search by gender feed, you know, yes, yes. You can search by by freight like like keywords you can search by Feed URL. You can search by podcast index ID or podcast Gu ID How about iTunes

ID because one of these has an iTunes ID and shows the generators Captivate

and it's why I love you is because you chose you asked about the one thing that I did not put in.

I do this because I love you. But I can see here that the that the index ID is older, does a lower number than the one that is below it. Yes. And that is a buzzer that is the Buzzsprout feed you were all that you gave me. So I'm going to figure that this Captivate one is the one I need to delete.

Yeah, so that that's that's no interest you get. Yeah, cuz it's the fight the 5998786. Yes, that is the one that's right, because it's got the iTunes ID but here but here's your secret sauce, the secret sauce number two. And this is what makes it more this is what makes this thing complicated. So click on the iTunes ID where it gives you the number just click on the number

two, it resolves to feeds Buzzsprout blah, blah, blah.

Right? That that when you click on the iTunes ID it does Apple look up to find what your real Apple thinks that is.

Oh, wow. Yes, that's so that's the one you want. But the boys in India are going to love this.

This is okay, so this dashboard. These scan, reset, delete. That only works for you. If you have an admin account, by the way,

people in the chat room if you're listening there is a live video stream where you can watch Dave side of this I guess

that's right. Yeah. Yep. Get it on the stream

as an audio product. This is really lame. It's terrible. It's horrible.

But But I wanted to see like I made I made Steven an admin so he could see this too. Yeah. Because he's he's now the reluctant web front end developer against his own head against his will. So What's What's complicated about this, and this is this is why I chose this example. So we have two feeds. And this is a common things that happen thing that happens within the index. Yep. So you get people that bitch about duplicates in the index all the time. They This is why

do. You can't resolve through that. Yeah.

Right. So what you have now with this dashboard is you have a basic set of tools, you have scan, reset, which will, which will destroy all the all the metadata, all the episodes and just reset the thing from scratch,

reset and reset it to what? Well, it

blows away everything we know about the phone, and then sends another poll.

Okay, now what? Why is there a checkbox next to the numbers?

That's in progress? That's so here's, here's the idea.

You want to know what to do with this one? I just delete them both screw this guy.

30 seconds you like now? You're

gone. Delete. Delete. Thanks for this. Dave. I

love this. That is actually a beautiful way to solve the problem.

Yeah, it'll fix itself eventually.

Okay, all right. Yeah, just let's not do that. Okay. The nuclear nuclear solution? Yeah. Yeah. Dust off a nuke it from orbit. That's it? Yeah, so that's what I was going to ask you about statements. So the, here's my idea, I want you

no, no, I can do this. Seriously. I'm all I mean, I can already just looking at this, I can already solve 95% of the issues.

Yeah, but but, but this specific issue, though, like

to model a hunting and fishing podcast, who cares, delete, delete.

Like, so.

On ancestry, like when you're building your family tree, when you find a new record, you can like, associate the two people. And then like all the different attributes, you can tell whether I want to keep what I already have or pull from the new data. That may be interesting.

Okay, so you're so you're saying the Y could do is like you could put checkboxes on the duplicates, and then say, I don't know, do something like resolve duplicates, and then it presents you with sort of a sub UI that says, which stuff do you want to keep?

What can I just interject? It seems to me like Okay, so what we know is, the one we want to keep is the 64356, a three in the old 15998 Blah, blah, but we want to, we want to suck the stuff over. Right? Just have an arrow between the two that said, just suck it this way, suck it that way. That's just does that make sense? Or is that not a good way to do it? Just merge it down or merge it up? And then delete delete the other one?

Okay, that works. If it as long as it's just two then there's, we had one the other day it was three

now. I mean, you could always do it in two steps, combined two and then

yesterday, people have no idea what goes into running this kind of index, do they they have no idea what what we run into? It is it is and I love the decentralized nature of podcasting. This is what happens when you centralize it. This is the stuff that we run into. It's amazing. I want to congratulate you for putting this together day. This is beautiful. I mean, I get what's happening, and I understand the issues.

And what happened was a great one the other day it was we did have one that had three. One of them was a Spreaker. When that was old, it was just, it was just a dead feed that they never deleted. God that killed that one. And then there was two left. It was two separate Apple IDs, both of which pointed to the same URL.

Nice.

So I'm like, Yeah, dude. I mean, really, you need to just clean your stuff up. So you know, at that point, it's like, it results undefined. I don't know.

I love though, that this bottom one says last scanned to 20 2306 2313 2542 because that's when I hit the Scan button.

Oh, yeah. Yeah, that's right. So cool. So this is doing now do let's see, what is. Let me look. Let me look, we're

doing a podcast so I want to make sure that we know people love

this. Oh, this is great. Yes. Great material. Okay.

Search for Emmy award winning right here. Okay.

No agenda. Oh, good. I

get to blow a whole bunch of people out of the index.

Yeah, and now and now. Now click on your podcast. Do it on 41 504.

Okay. Oh, that's the items I do. Sorry. Podcast. Good. Yeah.

And now look at Oh,

oh, how does this even happen?

It because well, the older you get the Opus feed somebody somebody didn't program it right. But Corinne

the keeper. I thought we changed that.

Evidently not. Evidently not.

Is it the active current indicator or is that an old

currently looks like an old Korean the keeper?

You get to Korean the keepers. Yeah,

I see it says feed.na shownotes. Ca TK RSS dot XML one.

Okay, well, then that's a bad one. You just delete. Oh, I

finally get I didn't get to nuke my wife. Did you really sure. Yes. Boom, dead. Gone. Okay, now let me make and there is it's still there. I nuked it. Maybe I have to refresh the search. Baby, it's still there. It didn't Ah, man, you gave me a boat. You gave me like one of those FBI things where you you give the guy a detonator and say hey, yeah, man. Good. Pretend you're gonna blow stuff up and it's empty button.

Did you get the cell phone? That doesn't do anything? Yeah, he's

still there.

Did you Did you hit? I'm really really sure. Yeah,

well, I do again, delete. It says do you want to mark are the keepers dead? Dead? Dead? Dead. Dead to me. This will remove the podcast from being listed publicly and we'll hide it from API resources confirm. Are you really really sure? Yes. Refresh. It's still there at the bottom.

Okay, this is this is a book

that's what I do. This is what I do. DAVE Oh my let me just there's so but when I search for curry in the keeper, I get the I get only one result. Okay, so I'm gonna go back to no agenda. And Oh, interesting. Boy, I click on my podcast GUID. And yet still there. Okay, so that's a bug but it's not showing up in the current the keeper search, which is good. So nice. Okay, so I have Oh, I see what's going on here. So is a torrent feed, which has the same podcast good.

Yeah, right. Right.

Then it has feed.na shownotes feeds.no agenda assets. No agenda light.glump.net Sexy. That's the Opus feed. And then the feed.na show notes. So there's a Okay, there is a real a true duplicate, which is feed.na show notes and feed.no that's there's a true duplicate it's

it's I wonder if this is showing dead feeds also and

I think I think it is because I could not find the Korean Zookeeper. So I may be showing dead feeds. That's what it

is. Okay, I need to fix it. That's the bug. Okay.

Can we can we take a little break here and do something else for the people listening?

Well, yes, but I think this was important to go through because we have

because I found a bug as usual. Yeah, that's why we do it.

Yeah, but but we need to enlist other people to do this. Yeah. Yeah. This Oh, like I want I would like to have because people have been asking to help. Yeah,

we can use the help because it's going to be a lot but it's also dangerous because you may look as oh, let's delete all these other duplicate no agendas. And that's because the no agenda torrents which I think actually may be a dead feed, but IPFS podcasting dotnet let me rescan that sucker, because that I think that's the correct URL for IPFS. Podcasting for no agenda. It's not current because last scan 2022 so that you know,

Yeah. So we have to figure out well, I'm thinking I'm thinking this is this is the way that this would work is we would give initially, we would give access to these controls, to just a couple of people like Cridland has been begging to help I would, the the people we give, we give curation to wood are going to have to be people that understand all of the technical details of how this stuff works. May I

suggest that we start first just by handling incoming stuff and get a handle on it that way? Yes, yes, yes. Yes. Because that yeah, that's where we're gonna find a lot of these cases. And, you know, I do that triage and I look at it and go, Okay, I don't know what to do here. I don't want to mess it up. And then I'll defer to you. And that that will be something we fix.

And then I'll send it to Steve and he'll get it I'll get it I'll fix Yeah, and

he'll document all right. Now we need to take a break. And it's time to run with more scissors. Oh, yes, it is. As you know, we'd like to ask our guests to select a song from the value for value category, which can be from podcast index, it can be from nl beats.com It can be from wav like.com

no, I just I was scrolling through wave Lake and I just random and what found it and sound good so yeah, let's

get you selected three one of them was really slow I'm like ah man. After Dave goes through his whole imagine imagine imagine what you're seeing on the screen. Also, this is about three minutes so I really liked it has no intro so I'm gonna give a little scissor to it and everybody please boost this artists particularly after the fact but if you can do it live they'll do it live it's handle it from lazy

stop gotta find a winner never quit pushing paddling paddling. Find a way to keep on hustling never quit pushing through it. Gotta keep finding stuff that finds a way to keep on hustling. Never quit pushing through. Gotta keep de novo stuff to find a way came never quit it pushing to find a way those novice novice novice novice cable hustling never quit cable hustling never quit never quit cable hustling never quit. You can have

glowstick time That's right. glowstick is the name of it? No. Everyone's saying they're looking at you on your stream and said you need to glowsticks. Oh,

she was reading well,

you should have been bopping around. No, that was handle it by lazy. It's la EY, apostrophe z. In different different time. Different kinds of song for the Friday up and Poppy and tempo like that. Thank you like Steve.

Alex mentioned he said it's nice to have this intermission in the show. Like where you get a little break?

Yeah. Well, that's exactly it's pretty cool. I'm a professional pronounced Decatur, man. This is exactly what needs to happen. Cool. This is good. I really, you know, Mitch has got his got the time. Ah, what was it called again? Time Value split. That's what it's called. Yes. Yeah. He's got that setup. So once that's propagated AM, Oscar is not far behind. For a music show, time.

I got a call. I got a call with another with another app developer on Monday, hopefully, to talk about value time splits in that. So

who is at an existing app that that is already in here already?

I'm always nervous about saying because I don't want to like all right, but you know, like, reveal that like

that new that new kids app right? It

is the kids pod. Yeah, it's kids pod.

Kids. Some I want to talk to about both you about that. Because I'm all I think was taught posts on podcasts index out social project p 92. What the heck is that? Yeah, that's the meta new twitter twitter competitor, which apparently project p 92. Is is trying to get together with Mastodon admins since they will be using either a something that's compatible with activity pub, or maybe activity pub itself. You guys heard anything about that?

Just heard a bunch of Fed of Fed averse, like sis admins or like sign some sort of thing that they were gonna all block at the same time. What?

They're gonna block it really good. Oh, goodness.

Am I wrong about that? Stephen, did you see that?

No, I didn't see that.

They're gonna block it out of principle right off the bat. They don't even know what it is.

Let me see if I can say there were it was just like a it was some sort of like, a pact or something like that. Yeah. You know how that I mean, this is the same group of people that blocked no and no agenda social five minutes after it started. And it's like, it's just

yeah, but that's rightly so we are a bunch of kk k Nazi Cardrooms. Full of free speech. Of course speech. Free speech. Yeah, we have no, we have no business being on the fediverse.

Well, Facebook, I mean, it makes sense to block. It doesn't make any sense to block it says Facebook is the fourth largest podcast platform.

That really says a lot about all of these surveys, doesn't it? I'm so tired of them.

That it relates. It relates back to I think what I said last week, or I tried to say maybe I don't think I was very clear. About. That's why That's why the podcast industrial complex is going to follow the money. Yeah. And they will, they will say everything. If they'll say anything as a podcast, yeah, money,

they're gonna wind up, they're all gone. I kind of like it. And this goes back to Todd. And I love his excitement. I love Todd's vigor, I love his passion. And he, you can bust on him as much as you want. But, you know, get your own.com He's absolutely right. And you know, and that's just the truth, you know, you need to maintain your own identity, you need to have

And he's not very funny.

There's that issue. He rubs a lot of people the wrong way, which is fine. A lot of people love him. But I just don't know. I mean, it's good that they're gonna put them on RSS. And and I think we're really gonna see a split. I mean, let's let's be very clear about it. It'll take I love no agenda tube and I think there's a huge future in this, but it's not going to really be seen as any recorded video competitor for a long time for live Yes, but I think right away for live

30 packed. That's that's the name of it. They're doing a 50 pound

that sounds super gay. 50 Pack 50 pack. I don't mean it that way. Fetty packed a lot of stuff on the pact which anti meta maybe have to add to it.

Pac ti Fe D IP a CT?

No, I don't know what

that is a TLDR. This is evidently from inside. This evidently from them themselves. It says meta will only federate with select larger instances. From the beginning. There will be contracts that provide for financial compensation for the instance owners. Okay, yeah. And there's a there's an email. It looks like this all originated from an email from somebody at meta. Rebecca who read

Rachel. Rachel, Rachel. Yeah, right. Yeah. Rachel. Right.

Oh, did you see that? Did you see? Yeah, that's

the one I saw.

Okay. Yeah. Thanks for the email. See, you may have heard of p 92. I'm reaching out because Instagram is interested to host a roundtable on June 27. From 1115 With Mastodon server admins to seek feedback and guidance. This conversation will be off the record as the team may discuss confidential details that should not be shared with others.

So they're going to pay admins. Evidently, they're

only going to federate with with certain people and they're going to I'm assuming they're going to pay they're going to try to compensate these for the traffic for the traffic because they're going to they're just going to blitz them with all the federal the Federation is going to just rock their world. That may be the honestly that may be that may be one reason to block them not for ideological reasons, just just

for the for the traffic in the in the bandwidth, image storage storage is really a big thing with Macedon storage space.

Yeah,

that's a big one. Okay. Whatever.

You brought it up.

I know I thought maybe there was something exciting, but now I've got something better to talk about. Okay. Yep, please.

It's about the dashboard. No, I thought those would be good to have to have this discussion with Stephen on the show, because you know, you, Steven, you've been around since the beginning of this thing. And so I had this, I had a good long conversation the other day. And, Adam, you've got a heart, you got a heart out, I do have a harder to let me let me know when you need to wrap it up. You have

about six minutes.

Okay, well,

we have to do booster.

So I had this, I had this conversation me and John Spurlock talked him on the phone, maybe a week or two ago. And we were talking about whether or not the whole concept whether or not to include anchor feeds. You know, we've been round and round about that. And so we had this, this nice long conversation, talked all about it. pros, cons, you know, and all that. And so we sort of came to this, this weird ended up really was this idea he was he was like, Well, you know, what?

Well, let's go back. If someone doesn't search for it, then it doesn't belong in the index. Is that what you're saying? And what Okay, let me go back. I still don't understand the problem you're trying to solve other than 5 million is bullcrap. Because a 2 million of them or a million is nothing, it's test stuff, it's poop. Which just I think, if I may, to me, it feels a little bit like my wife or their text messages. Like she has to delete them and clean them out because it

And I can tell you you're, there's no. Okay. Have you ever tried to find something on archive.org?

Yes, it's a horrible experience. It's a horrible experience. Yes. Okay. So that's what we don't want. I'm in total agreement.

Yes. You cannot find anything you sent, you end up spending four hours digging through stuff, and you still don't find what you need. Right? The only way you find is by googling for it. Correct. And hoping for a link back to our condos. That's what I'm trying to avoid. I'm trying to avoid clogging up. The index with so much is extraneous.

Okay, all right.

How about did he gets buried?

Now, is there a way to query anchor by the way? Can you there's no search query from them as there? Yeah, you

can you search podcast index?

Well, that seems more like a search. And search, of course, is massive voodoo, you know, it's very, very complicated. You can say, well, the concept of search, I don't find it. Because we've basically degra Gate a whole bunch of junk. And then well, I'm really looking for, you know, I want to look under the trash pile. Yeah, that still means you have a lot of junk in the database. And I have a feeling that just that unclean because I feel it too. I do is like, our database is

But if you have so much junk, you can't find the junk or the treasure. You know, that's, that's really the issue. And it like, it isn't

isn't search one of the hardest things in the world to do. I mean, isn't that exactly the reason why Google? Okay, well, it's okay. So Google got there by ranking by inbound links, you know, so if there's a way I mean, we don't really have the data. I mean, basically, Google has all the junk, they still they're still able to surface stuff. And of course, they have their own their own agenda, what they surface and

Yeah, I'm kind of moved. Yeah. And I'm kind of moving beyond the anchor, like, I don't so much care about

search. And while search is a real problem.

Yeah. And so I'm thinking here we could we could bypass this whole we

have a guy I did we have a guy by the way? Dino? Dino,

sir. Oh, he's being a.io. Guy. Right.

Yeah. So Dino, he has a company and what he does is he literally goes into companies gets their millions of documents and crap and whatever and makes them findable.

Does Dino's company do things for free? Yes.

He didn't bring a data. Oh, he did it for free? No. In fact, you know, he, he was about to lose a client. Because he could not provide transcripts for phone calls. Like, dude, stop right away. You got to talk to Nathan. Because he's doing this superfast. transcript.fm Yeah. And so you got to talk to him. And so they made a connection. He's like, he hit me back said hey, man, thanks this, this may save a whole client I was about to lose. So, you know, I think it

Seven splits.

Next problem. How do we do all these splits in our value block?

Mitch is sweating bullets over there every time we add a new split.

But cotton gin makes a good point. He says it's not it's not for free, its value its value. Now. He'll get the value back for sure. I can say that.

I mean, our our. We have a way to here's a okay. This leads into a plea that I have real quick that I would really implore all of the The podcast hosting companies to as fast as possible as quickly as possible. Implement the pod roll tag.

That would help a lot. There you go. There's, boom, we were there. That's our signal. Right on. I never thought I would agree with Cridland on this one. Yes, we need signal for this for sure. There you go. That's the answer. Or at least it's what it's an answer. It's one of the answers we need. And I

don't even care if it's I don't even care if it's user curated at the at the moment. I mean, like it's not even going to be visible in the feed. If they just just start throwing some pod rolls in there. I don't care what it is. Just give us some signal about what peep what is popular on your platform. Yes, we can make sure that when people search for things they can find it

great idea. That's the way to go. That's a great idea. Totally sweet. Wow. Well we solved it Oh, what a great board meeting I feel so good we've done so much you've accomplished things

we bore everybody to death

I don't think so. I think people kind of thought that was compelling especially with my with my delete button.

You your play by play brought really brought him into it. Yeah. Now Steven, are

you still awake?

If I'm sitting okay.

So you got to document all this so you know be ready for when

you're doing the minutes right

for meeting transcripts All right.

Bingo. Let me think we need somebody we that's that's one thing we need that needs to be part of transcript.fm or transcript later you can you can convert yeah that needs to be transcript later. I want to I want to I want to minutes mode where I can pump in the transcript for the board meeting it spits out some minutes that we can give to the to the SEC

to the SEC yeah

all right,

let's thank a couple people people have been boosting like crazy yeah, this has all been coming in live 2222 from Jean being someone providing search for the index will be a great showcase to use as a demonstration to clients Exactly. I think sir D nonnamous. I'm not sure what he is on podcast index on social but maybe just Dean. I think it's a d a m I think it's a great idea. Cotton Gin 7637 says go podcast. Dred Scott boosting while listening live in our

That sounds fantastic.

I'd like a garden leave. Yeah, it's basically this or money.

Universal Basic Income. Yeah, it's socialism. Yeah.

Denmark, happiest country. 10,000 SATs for Mitch de great to hear Stephen on the show. Transcript. dater makes it easy for us to support all the transcript types in podcasting. Thank you for creating, creating it. And I'm sorry I introduced you to JavaScript. See Gene been with another short row of ducks and he says here's an image I found of the ancestry merge duplicates. Let me just see what that is. Oh, is that in the oh,

Oh, can you send that to me? Can you can you post it to me?

Yeah, I mean yeah, yes. Do that right now so I don't think they call a second. That's actually pretty pretty cool interface. Thank you, Jean be 66,666 from lavish, ugly as sin boost IP. No kidding. Gotcha. Then we got a nice row of ducks from Buber. 22,222 also can confirm there are definitely students out there who know how to build theater sets with lumber and tools. How do I know I teach them how to go nice. I'm

Oh, let

me check that out.

You can just launch an invoice and pay and it comes through as a boost. That's that's actually pretty rad. That's bad

as support your favorite podcast. Okay, there we are right, top left. All right, and then share this page episodes. And then you can see what can you do support the show with a cup of coffee with a beer with a custom amount? Well, that's,

that's this is exactly what this was your initial idea. Last week, we were talking about possible D platforming of the for V. Yes, because you throw this into your funding tag, all of a sudden, it pops up in a web view and you boom.

Wow, this is so cool. Oh, I'm gonna just I'm gonna just log into my Alby Of course, we need to use Alby.

That's all right. Yeah,

I mean, it's not bad

but it's but it's a lightning invoice. You could pay for it. You could pay it any with any app right? I mean, like,

I don't know. Let's find out whenever it's telling me to log in. So let me see a cup of coffee. Supported My name is brown orca that bakes nothing but since message for the blah, create lightning invoice. Let me see what it does. If it goes straight through to lb or not, you get a bolt. Oh, no. Yeah, you got it. You get a lightning invoice. Holy crap. Yeah, this is smart. This

smart glide cast Matic. You could hit the funding tag pop this up the invoice. Bob's your uncle.

My uncle's name is Don Dodge. All right, I just I just got it here. Let's see. I'm doing it with Breeze approved 4200 SATs which is a cup of coffee. Wow. So it should come through Georgia come through on helipad now

be boosted us you boosted Russia.

I did. Oh, it's processing all these different it's Oh, I got confetti. Very nice.

Do we did all the splits is that is the splits.

Let me see. It says booster grand for podcasting. 2.0 and I don't know if okay, I heard it. Holy crap. It came through Yeah.

Wow. This is sort of like, this is sort of like the split kit.

Yeah, I wonder where the splits are being made because the split don't think the splits are being done in. It must be like, just like the splits are being done somewhere. I hope somewhere, I guess. Yeah, they must be because, yeah.

Amen, man. So we have a fallback didn't really get the split kit or the conscious.

This is very cool. This is very cool. Okay. Love that. Thank you very much. Nice. Now we have CMS son again with the 1111 need to put some more SATs on this. Yes, you do. See dubs one on one. A one live item needs a social interact tag, so boost bot can put its post as replies to it. Oh, now there's an idea. The live item needs a social interact tag so the boost bot can put his posts as replies to it. Do we understand that?

I don't I can't tell you Steven. Can you translate it

sounds like if there's a mastodon social lightener. Right. And they'll post the blue spot messages in cy to it. Yeah. and master them.

People think this is like a donation segment. This is actually a strategy session. Yeah, this is the round. This is what this lightning round. Exactly. Good idea. C Dubs and C Dubs. We're sending that from the index. CMC sound again 3333 pod verse still crashing on me sometimes but it's working amazingly well since the last Android update. Absolutely. That's what happens. Also go podcasting. And then we have let me see Eric P. P. 33,333. No note another gene been with a

Steven Bay's in the house he's throwing split kit links oh

wait a minute. Let me get in on this action split kit links we might as well do that while we're at it let me check out and check his a the pod father when all sudden there's there's my if you look click on that link and his link I pop up and then I hit the boost. I don't know if it's doing

this you know, my father has no agenda. No jet boost.

Because you're the current speaker.

Oh, conference, right. Oh, and it just switched today. Which to me

in my mind,

cool. How in the world is this? What

you do, but when I boost Huckle I'm not getting any money back again. Oh, she did I just get a boost with money just by saying that. Oh, is that I'm just Okay, stop. You're making you blow my head up. What is what is this crazy man this is crazy stuff is

even What? What? What the hell is

this like badass man?

This is sorcery. Yes, this is complete sorcery. Now, I wonder

I wonder if it's switch. I mean, it can't be switching. He has to be doing that right? I mean,

the bus age creator, Freedom driller maintainer the index lover of wisdom hates roosters in Miami all true all true.

I'm here host of no agenda. Wait.

had a cameo on Swamp things

boosting for Swamp Thing. Wow. Okay, everyone's just blown our minds here with all this stuff that you're putting together is so beautiful. Okay, so

this goes through LBC has to be logged into lb to

I am logged into Aldi I'm not I'm not like the devil but I don't know if the booths are good Don says blockchain I'm not getting any I'm not getting a feedback. Maybe you have to log Oh login now there we go. Oh yeah. Okay, so log in obviously this is too crazy. Let me see if I can authorize yes course. All right. Now let me see if I boost. Oh, not pops up the note. Okay. Blah. And let's send send 1000 set this is this is so cool. And I got confetti. All right. So

Okay. Okay, thanks Steven for posting that so that's the exact

link to the back end the other day

this is a miss this mess completely missed this post

well I saw the post but I didn't know was supposed to do but now we know this is okay. Between contracts and the split kit we are rockin

that we this is full fallback territory is what this is. I mean like,

but this thing is perfect for the and I don't know how the splits are set up but this thing is perfect for the Bitcoin Amsterdam. Oh, yeah, there's four people on the stage have four pictures.

But Steve but Steven B, are you are you clicking something that's changing?

He must make he must wood. Okay. No, he must be clicking something.

I mean, if you're if there's live transcription going on this flipping this now that'll

then denied that I'm just gonna I'm gonna quit I'm just gonna quit. Why don't you take us through the other boosts that we've received and, and pay pals, if any, and let us know what's happening.

I've got to turn off the split kick because it's gonna be

crazy. It's so good.

The alpha waves go. Marco Arment $500

Now hold on a sec. Oh, wow. Bleh on am Paula. Thank you, Marco. Thank you. Beautiful Man. That is great. Great support there really appreciate it.

Shot him an email this morning about sending some stuff to him just waiting to hear back. Buzzsprout Tom and Kevin and the rest of the crew there $500 Bala

bless blades on Ambala. Thank you. This was 10 Just when we really needed to you know, we got that big database going. Oh, this is really helping. Thank you so much.

The, to answer your question, James Cridland. The reason I don't spend we don't spend more time on the donations through PayPal is because nobody ever writes us any notes.

guess right. Yeah. Right. Yeah. They just they just don't dump cash. Cash don't know what

to say. Yes. Thank you. Well, obviously, yeah. Lindsey Jarrett. Not sure who Lindsey is. But Lindsey he or she sent $50 and that there is a there this one has a donation message. Oh, good. The donation message is donation.

Well done. Yes. Thank you very much.

Thank you, Lindsay. Appreciate that. Don't know who you are. But

we appreciate you appreciate it. Yeah.

Got a right in the under the wire skin of the teeth got a new media show donation from Todd for $50. And he's dead. Todd says go podcasting.

Okay, thank you very much. Give them a little color there just because it's fun to play.

And he just signed this Todd instead of Todd and Rob So I'm guessing that means they're still mad at each other. Yeah, I think so. Thanks. So, it's gonna be it's gonna be a showpiece. It's gonna

be a while I don't think it'll disappear. Right?

I'm not sure if it's rial or Riley R y l e Davis sent us five bucks right under the wire says love the hot index. Tal

Thank you very much. I think is Riley. Probably Riley.

Riley. Yeah, I think so too. Yeah. That's the That's That's our that's our Pay Pal. So it gets a boosts let's see here. Got one

more booths that came in a couple that came in late actually. From Mr. Robot 44,444. So he says confirmed the better half heard Adam needed a refill of some climate change for propane to keep the show going. Go podcasting. Thank you. Yeah,

let's see here. We've got 1100 38 Sasser Stephen B. No note. Wait. Oh wait. There is no says 1138 is a bell boost. Dave What's your cat's name? The cat. The cat's name is boss monster. That's last name. It's a balls daughter named balls. Mom's not balls. Monster. Boss. B OSS Boss.

Boss monster I'm sorry.

Yeah, see? You say boss, but I'm from Alabama. So I'll say boss.

When I was in Amsterdam, when I was 19 Bachelor, but I was on TV and you know had my own apartment and everything. And I had a cat I had I rescued a cat because I was lonely. And it being Holland I named the cat dickhead. Because I thought that just kind of funny. You know, no one really knew what that meant. Certainly not back in the in the 80s. But the cat moved with me to New York and the first month MTV put me up in the Mayflower Hotel which is no longer there.

You don't want to go screaming that around New York.

He lived to be 23 Crazy past 23 And we had to put him down he wouldn't even go he couldn't walk.

He refused to die. You're gonna have to kill me. Yeah,

it was badass cat very badass cat.

Eric pp 33 333 So the boost CLI no note. Thank you, Eric. You're

EPP Oh grass,

grass fed beef and 1111 pod verse. calyx OS and pop OS for the win. Nice. Canoga as soon as 3521 pod friend no note thank you get a row ducks from Gene bein 2222 to transcript in the transcripts in pod I don't know what you're trying to say there gene. But we appreciate it. Yeah, thank you,

whatever you're saying.

Gene said another 1000 Sassy sunfab to pod verse he says testing pod verse for the first time in a good while it weren't as successful Yep. Gene being at 649 to pod verse he says the wait transcripts are displayed in pod friend is really cool. Unfortunately, boosting from iOS doesn't seem to be working right? So I'm sending this from pod verse which also has some nice transcript scrolling having all these choices is awesome. He sent another message for 2048

Oh I wish I could the only reason I still use it it boxy there's two reasons I really like Hindenburg as recording and editing software that don't make it for Linux. I know there's other ones and so I could totally replace that but the M Error List which is a Windows product which I have completely customized the guy has he's a German developer and you pay him as he's he has a an actual business radio stations

and all he does it doesn't worry you whine why no

it does not work. It's not underwires not a great product under wine No

Don't email me your wine can please please don't. Hard Hat 10,101 says no no through pod verse. Thank you Horvat 2222 Fat Odell sin pot through pod versus says go podcasting

Yeah, you better believe it go podcast.

Joel ws in essential Richards 111 ones who found nieces had an employer issued phone is he had an employer issued iPhone use it for crossbow practice after be forced out. Sir Shona the Allegheny Valley aka Sean McCune sent 10,000 Sasa cast medic says tunes

nice okay, by the way, I'm just thinking when we when we talk to Steven b I'll get in touch with when we were talking I think we're talking to the Bitcoin guys the Bitcoin magazine guys this week. Yeah, it would be super cool while we're doing the Zoom call to have the split kit just switching, rotating rotating. I'm just saying let's talk about that because that would be a dynamite way to show them what's going on. You'll have three people then highlighter speaker

That's quick. That's quick. Yeah, Alex had a good idea the other day to create a to write an OBS plugin that would put the boosts that Burnham into the screen in the live feed. Oh,

that'd be fantastic.

Okay, booster Graham. Gene being again to Kay says I'll happily boost quality audio anytime, Dave. Thank you. And he says if you haven't already, you should listen to some of the stories on dark net diaries. Yes, I do like dark net diaries. I don't listen all the time. But I do like that podcast. Row ducks 2022 test boosting from pod friend everything came through. Oh Martin sent us a row of ducks through pod for and he says boosting a row of ducks for science.

Yes, let's hear it in science

see we got some tests boost their Shan Shan refinery Shanti refinery sent us 5000 says to fountain no note Thank you, Shawn. Mitch D. Get a bunch of DEV boost test from Mitch Downey. Everything's looking good. Mitch

seems to be working appropriately. Yep. Kevin Bay

sent 100,000 SATs. Oh, oops.

That didn't sound like enough. There we go. That's the one I liked that one with the explosion. That's my favorite right there.

See Kevin this as I'm just a podcast dabbler and it always amazes me when Dave helps solve issues I create through my technological ineptitude in 10 thumbs on the keyboard. In honor of the dedication and service Dave provides to people like me I've started a personal podcast index endowment fund by setting aside $1,000 in an interest bearing

what a great idea. Love that. That is so kind of dominant. When in doubt we got our first week.

We're in we're well endowed. D thank you so much. Kevin, Mitch D 10,000. Sets the pod versus boosting the value time split underclasses a jam

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from Chad F Hi, Martin. Hi, Martin. Mere Mortals podcast we do 22 through family says just a little plug here for the value for value podcast Season Three that I'll be kicking off next week have finally done my P two O V for V BTC. Homage on the mere mortals. So have my structure worked out. I moved it over to blueberry. So hopefully it will be joining the lit ranks barring any technical mishap. So look out for that. Yeah, we'll get you hooked up. Very nice. Karen. Let's see 5000

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SATs through pod verse no no from Borlaug and we got see we got Lyceum sent a central Richard could a booster gram of 1111 SATs be appropriate as you are dancing around the maypole. Can you celebrate midsummer Adam and Dave Martin lindskog

I think it's still a satchel Richards that's that's just that's stuck. We can't get rid of that. Thank you

get the delimiter comic strip blog. Yes 30 3015 The now fired from a cooking show.

No, don't say that. No, he's not fired. No, don't look, you're gonna get emails you're gonna get DMS they parted ways amicably and comics your blogger continues to support the podcast and 2.0 ecosystem as well as the podcast and we appreciate that.

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appreciate it. Appreciate it. And yes, monthlies, monthlies. Yeah, yeah, we got, Trevor at Xena war, this $5 Paul Paul Erskine $11.14. Thank you, Michael Gagan $5 Charles current $5 Thank you Charles. Cone glass Buck $5 Sean McCune against her assertion with Allegheny Valley $20 Thank you, Sean. Christopher reamer $10 James Sullivan $10 in Jordan Dunnville $10

dudes and dudettes thank you all so much for supporting podcasts and 2.0 The project is value for value Dave and I started this three years ago look at all the people who are providing value, sending value around every value every piece of digital value that comes in goes into liquidity for us make sure you hit me up if you need a channel that keeps the Node running and when and liquidated they're nicely,

Thanks for having me. You're welcome.

A man of so many words. We love me for that. All right, well, a little bit past my heart out but who cares? This has been a great show a great board meeting, man. All companies should be run like this. No profit is perfect. It's perfect. All right. Love you, brother. All right.

Let's do it again next week.

Yeah, let's do that. Chat Room. Thank you very much, Steven. Thank you very much. And all you boosters out there. Thank you for listening to podcasting. 2.0 We'll be back next week right here. See you then.

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