Episode 132: Felt-Manhood

podcasting 2.0 for May 12 2023, episode 132 manhood Friday once again, this is where your weekend really starts you know what I'm saying? Welcome to podcasting 2.0 The only

Nathan Nathan gathright Just dive ball with me in the chat. What do you do? Neat Steve seems like a said MK Ultra check question mark. Don't forget Oh, you

forgot you forgot to fire it up.

I did. I forgot to set sail with the chat and it's it's it's Doa now.

Oh. Oh, you

don't have it plugged in. I don't have it plugged in yet to the heat. Okay, let me

know. Can you can you fire that? I mean, what so what are we using here? Because we have we have our live chat room. Yeah. I mean, we want people to use MK Ultra chat or what do we want them to use? I mean, I'm fine. Either way.

We're matter. I mean, like they use whatever they want. Yeah, but I wouldn't have

said we're going to the pub, I thought they were gonna be they're gonna be connected. And they will be one day. Oh, okay. All right. Just wanted one day.

I can't even auto start it. Yes, I'm gonna get where were you? What

do you have to do a whole landline be boop

to two different ones, too. It's too firm. It's a twofer. It's a two, it's a two, there's a split process. So there's, there's a there's a web process an HTTP server that goes it sits in there. And then there's a WebSocket server, both talk to the same back end. But like you have to fire them up separately. So this is this, this, this should all be if at the end of this process, it will be Dockerized. So that these things come up as a docker. What do you call it thing?

Container? Yeah,

it's like we're two containers. I'm drawing a blank. It's Docker Compose. Sorry, Docker.

Oh, Docker, I've had my head deep into Docker containers and compose

no heavy Yeah, it feel

a little smelly? Yeah, no, I had one of those original Bitcoin machines, which is basically the Raspberry Pi, preloaded with Umbral that has a cool little display that shows you you know, it circles between men pool and the current price and you know, just like a almost like a big clock type thing. And it has a two terabyte hard drive internal. And if there's one thing I've learned about Raspberry Pi's, like the whole power management thing, and I mean, really like, like the

People using these Raspberry Pi's as like their main desktop, you people are nuts, just don't do this. So

what happened is, you know, I'm not quite sure why but then the power supply started was too weak, and then it would, it wouldn't recognize the drive. And this would go up and down and up and down. And I didn't know if it was the power supply the drive. Well, ultimately, this happened so

v dash or exactly

what you do. You do dash a and then it'll get all the dot files and everything. And Windows. It's x copy. Yeah, I tried to stay away from windows. So I was able to copy the contents of the drive over. And then you know, I did sudo script start and they went hey, I don't have Docker. Oh shoot. Okay, install Docker install py yq to pre pop Hebrew whatever all the stuff that it kept screaming for. I don't think there's real well why why Q was the last thing you need. I don't

I told a coworker of mine the other day, I was fighting a Windows Remote Desktop RDS server farm. And this thing would not produce the correct RDP files for access. And it was just like, which is a bunch of stuff was missing. It's just nothing I did would fix this. And finally, I found an obscure reference on a on a website to somebody who had a similar problem a few years ago. And they're like, it's your

Well, so I got my start nine machine in there who you lucky bastard? Well, you know, I'd spent a couple hours with the CEO talking about the future and everything I think actually you got Cameron is already working on making a an app for it with IPFS podcasting, which is one of the things that we're interested in. So this is on the purism hardware. So this

you choose that? No, no,

no, no, did generated automatically. This is not gray. No, that didn't feel good. And then I had to go in and I have to install the cert into my browser and into the operating system. So like, Wow, man, that was a lot more than I bargained for.

So let me please tell me that if you're if you install is this destined to be a lightning node?

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Well, I mean, it's got next cloud, it's got it's got you know, it's it's destined, the whole point of start nine, is to take you off a big tech Silicon Valley stuff, and replace it with, you know, with your own sovereign hosting.

I just want you to put felt manhood into your value blog into your split. I

think it's a show title, honestly, it is. Anyway, I told the, I told the CEO, Matt nice guy said, Hey, I'm writing down some stuff you want me to send to particular team members have now sent directly to me. So that's one of the things I have, like I need to be able to change that name, by the way, dot local, doesn't work on Wi Fi extenders. I mean, he's all kinds of stuff that having just pure, clean net access, which, you know, they're they have a way to do it. Which would just

I don't know. My dirty secret is just is that SSL is just the most confusing thing in the world to me. TLS I don't, it's like yeah, I understand the raw concepts. But when it comes to actually pushing things out into different places, I mean, there's if you ever read the man page on open SSL command, you mean the felt Oman page, the man page there's Shota. Like it's horrible. It's worse than ffmpeg i mean, like that nobody understands these these options. Holy crap.

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we just we just got a 450,000 sat boost from Martin on the new pod friend to lit app. Oh, whoa. Whoa. So it's alright show's over. Read the good board meeting everybody. We'll see you next week.

So So pod friend 2.0. Does lists functional it's like it as as as the Empire would say this is this battleship is fully operation. I wonder

if that was a fat finger there. You sure you meant to send that mark? We're not going

back more. Yeah. Oh, It's no refunds

no Holy crap, man. Thank you so much, Martin. Well, then he boosted earlier. He said to first lit, lit boost from pod friend like, Oh, that's pretty cool. He's got these got that working for pod friend, you know it hasn't been released yet but you know, he's been teasing us with it. And, and you know and I saw I posted a I gave a little screenshot a receive, it's like oh I feel douchey now that I only sent 10 Sad. So I'm like, Well, I didn't say it but you know you didn't say it out loud.

you that V for V is working in pod friend twit. 2.0. And alive is both they're both working.

He says in the chat here. I did mean to send it funny enough was supposed to have a message attached. So I think the beta test failed do to go do it again. We are live of course, live and in person, the live item tag is activated. This is something that is becoming very popular. I mean, all the apps are integrating it. Currently we have pod for pod verse curio caster, podcast guru podcast addict, I understand that. Fountain fountain is in beta on iOS and Android and soon

like, fundamentally the radio station telling you your shows now live now. If you've come across that at

all, no, I haven't. No. So we're familiar with the namespace project, although they've stopped calling it that now. And it's ESP Thank you. Yes, that's what No, that's

not right. That's not in fact, it's borderline insulting.

We know these are two different things, the port, the podcasting 2.0, the namespace in the podcast, Anders project are not related.

And now I need to question what is going on with the podcast Standards Project. I mean, this thing seems to be stuck in second gear. Like somebody shifts that thing into three or four, because you look at the website, and nothing has changed. It's still the initial and we tried to we're still giving them 5% of our of our booths to help fund their initiatives. I don't see anything moving with this thing. And so this is where I got creeped out, because I went to

Just having a look.

Observe Ambrose

made a comment about phenomenal. Yes. I couldn't help. Yes. He, he dragged me sorry,

having someone support us with $5 a show or $5 a week or $5 a month is it's critical when you have 100 of those. That's a big deal. So having that built in is is kind of critical. And I'd love for developers to think about adding that I know it's yet another thing. But remember, you're part of we're

here for yet another

one more thing. Exactly. So I would like to change the change this. And I know Todd will be on board with it because he's probably the biggest open podcasting guy and the hosting business we have right now. And he keeps saying Open podcasting. Todd, we don't have to say that bro. We are podcasting. You are there in the beginning. Everyone else is closed podcasting.

Well is the word open podcasting. On the pod Standards Project.

Yes, site. Yeah.

Yeah. Okay. This should be removed for me.

I mean, literally, it literally says that. That's That's why I got triggered by it. Because you go into blogger news. It says, What is Open podcasting? And why does it matter? And now Now I know but no, no. What has closed podcasting and why do we need to fight it? That should be the title?

We should do a search and replace.

Yes. Yes. It's just it's just this it's just an I know. No one meant any malice. But that is slippage, man, we can't we can't let that happen. And besides me, I'm sorry. Who gives a crap? Close POC. All I hear is that advertising is up. Everything's great. Fine.

Well, me. I don't know that that's the case. PRX lays off 10% of staff. Oh, really? Yeah, just saw this right before the show says says this is this is the this is everybody's got their angle on things and everybody's pushing their own version of whatever this the truth happens to be because, you know, I mean, everybody's got their own numbers and it's all just BS. Honestly, it's this is a PR

Well, I listened to pod News Daily. I listen to it every single day. And it sounds like CNBC headlines you know, it's like horrible stocks are up but the markets up. It's a great opportunity. It's up. Everything's down. That means it's going up. I mean, you know, oh, by the way, bye bye. 30 cents. 30,000 SATs from Martin beta failed successfully. That's right.

Successful failure. Thank

you very much, Martin. It's so good to have Martin back again. And I read such a beautiful exchange between him and Steven B of curio caster. And, and I think I even posted about it, that they're, they get so motivated

Who came up with that? Was that you or me? It's just

it's us. We came up with it together.

I mean, I need I need the most affirmation from from you. So I'm gonna say that it was me. No, actually, you know what, honestly, I think it was Paul Ito

might have been it might have been, but

But you should have a professional split. And then everything we do as

well, if he'll ever email me back or, you know, answer my call. I mean, if he just disappeared, and no matter how many times I left a voicemail, he just never answered.

The leader. No, there was this. By the way, we've completely not even talked about, about you being the Barry Bonds of podcasting, making the hits.

But oh, what do you mean, the Barry Bonds of party? Well,

let me you're making the hits, like your batting average is great. I mean, like you launched, you launched Joe Martin into the Stratus. Fall Brother,

how Okay, so you're jumping ahead here. But yes, let's talk about this for a second,

all the way to the top of the fountain hut is that the fountain not 100, or whatever that is?

The wavelength, that wavelength chart went to the top of Wave lake.

I mean, that that's, that was us. That was the show. So

couple things. First of all, we did this test this, and it was you know, and I have to thank Alex gates for coming up with the whole tag idea that time to time split. Of course, Steven B for implementing the round robin both in sovereign feeds as well as in cheerio caster, which really was the only way we're able to prove the concept. So if you if you didn't, I want to do another I want to try another test today, if you don't mind. Because it was mind blowing how that

That's the most beautiful part of it is where it is. There's nobody in the middle now that you replace them and there's nobody in them. There's no middle,

it's going directly from people who are enjoying the product, outstanding product to the people making that product that and again, the app they're using gets a piece of the action. The podcast that is playing it in this case gets a piece of the action this is going to spark a huge revolution. Should and I'd like to, with your permission, I'd

say something like that like this. Yeah, electrical something. Yeah,

I'm sure I'm downplaying. I'm sure he does designs for an entire building or something. But it's so hard to connect it to the guy that has built curio casts or sovereign feeds and Elon beats Elon beats.com, Lightning Network beats. So this is now my homework machine. So I go to Lm beats, I can sample all kinds of music, the only only music has in there has medium equals music. So a lot of it's from

Let's do it. Let's do it. Okay, so who is going to give me the give me the rundown. I'm picking the hit.

So as you know, I'm picking the hits. I'm kind of a poppy kind of guy. And Fridays used to be Oh, hello sync activity. Fridays used to be FUBAR Friday daddy source codes. I've been looking for something upbeat. I'm also looking for something within the three minute range you know, it's like

so nice song man about to lose the town yes be in a girl like so Sorry about the bad girl not really come on no matter where you are in a girl like wow no matter where you in a girl likes

in a girl likes more time

in a girl likes

all right this was unexpected blueberry so the minute I hit the track the chat room goes nuts blueberries like oh my god that's my dad's band and which I don't know if it's good or not like oh my plain old people music here. I really like like this song, it's like, you know, has kind of that 80s Like Blondie type feel to it.

Totally. That's, that's what I was picking up to.

Yeah, really. And we're not gonna be playing music and every single podcasting 2.0 Unless you all want that. But this is also very important for Steven B, who had a whole bunch of things he tweaked and fixed and needed to adjust. So, and that's what this is.

This is this is scissor sharpening is what this is fine tuning the scissors. You know that that little screw in the middle? The overtime? Yeah, yes. This is this is adjustment. I thought I was trying to figure out which one you were going to play. I thought you might go Satoshis funk, but, or either, or fudge. There was one of those.

I mean, I've just, I've just gone by the Obama year, man. I was actually Tina's in New York this week. So I was around a little bit behind the dog. The dog is like very, is like inconsolable. Her mom's gone to line by the door didn't prove this morning. I'm like, why don't we go to the park. So I went to the park at 915. It's it's not a great day. No running around. She pooped Of course, we come back. But then I'm running late. And I'm like, I gotta get something to eat. I haven't had

Okay, well, let's, let's let's throw let's throw a debate in here. We're not debate that I don't. It's so that Daniel brought up that

namespace? I saw this. Yes.

Yes. The, let me sort of

explain what he what he's saying.

So what he said was, you know, this, this should be in the V for V splits for in this scenario. So this is just Just to recap, what's happening here, so that we're all on the same page right on a value, our value block in our feed tails tells podcasting apps to stream set to streams, sets as boost and streams from the app tells it to go send it back to our nodes because our splits are in there. So then now we have courtesy of Alex, we have this new XML tag, value times value

especially like just switching wallets for the duration of the song

is much easier explanation Thank you. So that's that's

when the the inheritance of any splits. So if your wallet has actually three wallets of the band members, that that carries through, so it's not just one it can be three payments, whatever you set up in your splits.

And that's the that's the key part of this is that the win so the way this works is through the value time split references a remote item. And the remote item is is a is a pointer to another feed. So the the the app sees that goes out grabs the value block in its entirety, all this splits from that other feed, pulls it in and uses it and then lets it go. Right and so like he like you said it's if the entire blog is not just one person or one split. So

in this case wave Lake, I think they they they there was a split between the artist and wave. I didn't know if they could manage splits on weight on the wave Lake platform. Are you aware?

I don't know if they have that yet. I don't remember what I said.

But I think I'm pretty sure that there is there is one split. Well, if in fact, I can take a look. Because of course, I put girl like me in the show notes and continue while I'm looking that up.

Yeah. So that. So that's what's happening. So then they Daniel brought up on the on the podcast index social that well, this should be in the chapters, because this is inherent in understand his thinking there. This is an inherently time based operation. So it makes me it makes the most sense to put it in the chapters. And understand the thinking but it that's not that's not the right way to think about it. Why is he thinking that? Well, because it's a time it's a time

it's not what translators are, as well, our transcripts also time sensitive.

Yeah, but transcripts. So chapters is a is inherently a way to delineate things based on time. Whereas transcripts are just time as a property of the transcript. Got it? So like, you know, he understand his thinking is, why don't we've already got this thing here.

Something already working, why don't we just add to it?

Or something already specified? Yeah, the in this this thing, that's what it does the chat. The chapters are inherently like a clock that's ticking on the podcast where certain events happen. And so I understand that the this, I think the I think the problem here is twofold. When you have a

the feed itself. Yeah, I got you there. I gotcha. Two

for two reasons. One, because it makes it more reliable. It's an to because not every everybody that lots of people have already said we're not going to do chapters. I mean, there's been hosting companies that have said, we're not doing that.

Well, they, they they literally can't because they've already committed to it dynamic or dynamic ad insertion and either don't have control of it or don't don't want to re recode or refactor for it. So there just isn't. Well, that's because they're close podcasting.

Because they, they've tied themselves. I'm such a big, well, you tie yourself to dynamic ad insertion in this. That's what did you say dynamic

ad insertion? I'm sure I heard you say that.

That's exactly. Because that's that's garbage. It stinks. So that's what that that's what if you. So those are those are those two reasons. But then there's an even another reason to do this because or not not to put it in chapters is there's already there's already these these tags, and everything already exists in order to reference these things. And we need to extend that. These are the we we've got these building

Also, implementation matters. You know, this first implementation has been done. Yeah. So do we need to go and change it? If it's something that's working and all the bugs are being hashed out as we speak? I mean, you know, to me, it doesn't matter at all because I didn't I wasn't even sure if he was using Alex Gates's idea or not. I had no idea how he did it. Because you know, he's done the whole round robin. I mean,

Well, it takes advantage of room mode item and remote item is going to become a critical piece to everything. That's why right hard for it on broad roll right elements, right? Because it's it's a it's a, it's a puzzle piece. Yeah, it's like a Lego you stick this it has one job, its job is to point to a section of it to point to another feed, or

So this so this actually uses remote item. Or just the concept of remote item,

it uses remote item because it's a value time split with a remote item specifier in it. That's how the app knows where to go and pick up the other valuable

for for musicians, artists, bands, etc. in the show notes for this show 132 links to the music side project studio, which allows you to create your own splits and your own system, as well as a video which is called Music side project

Now is resti gate the name of the band or a dude in the band?

As far as I know, it's it's the name of the band. Okay, gotcha. Yeah, they also had a psychedelic mix of this song, but there's too psychedelic for me.

It's not Poppy.

No, you know me. I like Poppy. Man, I'd like it to be Poppy. So since we're talking about this, should we should we go into.

And now it's time for some hot namespace talks.

Since you know, phase six is upon us. And there's stuff to be discussed and you're active in the GitHub doing all kinds of stuff. I think we need to bring people up to speed on what's what's going on.

Yeah, we did. We did part of it just there. That's remote and remote island that's written that's written up. I do. I gotta add another aspect to it, which is sort of, it's written up as, as a child in its in its sort of child functionality. But I need to also write up this sort of parent part of it, where it can hold other elements, like we discussed. So because it's like a dual use tag. It's very

exciting. I didn't quite understand it. Now that now that you know, you've put this into context for me, it sounds like this could be a core element of, of the namespace, sometimes incorrectly called the pod Standards Project.

Didn't we change the name? Didn't we change the name from the names podcast namespace to plus standard project?

I guess I'm not.

Pod pod roll. We've got we've got that defined in there waiting on a little bit more feedback. But

what now that's controversial. Because there was lots of I kind of fell out of the back and forth after message 1000. What is everyone happy now was with where we're at with POD roll, because it was supposed to be really simple and beautiful. And then people can jam and stuff in and then we got angry. And we're back and forth. And I don't know if it was really anger. I mean, it depends on the context of reading it. But you know, like this, and so, what's where we have

so I think we're good. I mean, I have not I have not seen any any negative feedback yet. Kevin was messing around and being given me a hard time, but I think so his issue mainly just felt just fell down to the to simplicity. He's like, I just want this to be a simple tag. I don't want to overcomplicate it, and I think we're there like he initially had podcast colon pod pod roll, as a comma separated list of

good resolving capability. Yes.

Like, there's going to be some apps that are actually somatic specifically, they don't have a back end, and I don't want these, here's the thing I don't want, I don't want Google to rely on us, I don't want to be the go, everybody has to go to COVID I don't want to be the good central repository for the universe, like we, the whole idea here is that everybody can see it. So everybody builds their own list

is so what that seems like that stands apart from everybody from where goods are located. Who is there? So you're saying two different things. One, you want to make sure that all apps can use this functionality or or have a fallback to you don't want to be the central repository for good who then and why not? Who then should be the central repository? Yeah. How do you how do you handle that? Well, there

isn't, that's the whole concept of guid is that there is never a central repository, the feed itself declares it to go it's good value. And so everybody has act everybody can read it. Think about cast ematic or antenna pod that don't have that don't have any sort of server back end. They You make

it sound like they're like they're poor orphans or something. You know, it's like Little Orphan Annie. Think of the poor children who don't have any parents.

It's just Franco sitting in his living room with an iMac and a Mac Dog Tick. That there's there's so an app like that. They they don't even know they would have to pull somebody like us, which is fine. They can if they want to. I don't have a problem with it. But they, they shouldn't have to. Okay, do you see what I'm saying?

Oh, no, I'm all for true decentralization. Obviously, yes, no, and being less of the center of the universe as possible. So if you

work if you if you have both in the spec and you require both you say, Okay, you you need to use a feed you ID and a feed URL when the app sees that they can say Oh, I know who it is. And I know exactly what this is I'll use this because it's because it's reliable. Or lets me differentiate and that kind of thing. Or if if it's cast ematic or antenna pod and they see this or like I'm I'm hamstrung here because I'm just a single app and all I have in my library is 25 podcasts I

or if someone just decides they want to change their good that that it's a no no but that could happen right?

It could that's those people shouldn't be showered on yes yes at dawn Yes. Does anybody shooting by a night is always always I think it's

always a dawn like to get your day started you know, if you're on the firing squad, it's like hey, whatever call what's your what's your Friday like? I'm gonna shoot somebody and then you go go I'll say something Yeah.

So that's the GUID is that should be authoritative but URL for fallback.

Okay. All right. That sounds good solved.

He just said I changed my good ones and Dave gets so mad at me

it's not I had a job for a while they're carrying the keeper somehow how to duplicate good of I think podcasting 2.0 and John Spurlock spotted it he said that's a no no. Yeah, it isn't no no look for that. But well, shot at dawn shot at dawn right. Before discuss golf. Yeah.

Yeah. So that's that's that we also put in a couple of couple of T O V attributes that blipped in.

Yes, yes. Yes. This is for the Hold on one second day. We got to do a little

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pictures of searching.

The way that fountain when you do a baller boosts you get a little icon that says baller boost. Oh, is it like a badge? Yeah, but like next to the boost amount. It has little, little little Yeah, little icon little badge baller boost.

I'm such a sucker for that kind of stuff. Badge.

I love that. It's very cool. Great.

It's such a gamification. But I get I get I love it. I get sucked in. Overtime. Oh, yeah. The Blip 10?

Yes. Is it for this is for replies and other things.

Yeah. So it got spotted after last week's episode with the with the with the scissors. Yeah. That I think it was Joe Morton. I think he I think he

bring it on? Well, this is for attribution. Right. This was for attribution. Right.

I can't remember the etiology of how this happened. But remote this the the, I think Joe said, How do I know where these came from? How do I know? How do I know if

it's just stop you that is really interesting. Because I had the exact same thing as I'm looking at the at heli pad. And I'm seeing by the way before I forget, for some reason, when you install heli pad on Umbral, you get two icons on the desktop, I have no idea why something's weird. They both do the same thing. But you get two icons, just a bug. I've been meaning to mention this to you for months. I blame Umbral. Oh, totally. So, so I'm looking at the helipad. I'm like, oh, so

I don't under Can you explain it to me more?

Yeah, like a human. Okay, so. So, I'm watching helipad, I'm seeing the boost for podcasting. 2.0 Come in. I'm seeing some booster grabs. Right and what I was expecting at a certain point was to see people boosting for Joe Martin and then on my heli pad me seeing attribution to Joe Martin. I II, love your song, Joe, and we'll say Joe Martin, and I'd see the whole boost amount but I'd be getting you'll still be getting the 5% or whatever, to our feed. Does that make sense? Okay,

yeah, I've initially I thought you're talking about the original set value for numerology, but you're you're talking about the actual metadata of the of Joe's feed.

Yeah, I mean, yeah, so just like it says, you know, on on a boosted gram here, it's says, meow. Darren. Oh, podcasting. 2.0 Episode 132 Live may 12. So what I would expect to see is Joe Martin. Was it against gravity? High Ground against gravity, moon landing, high gravity, and then from who it was from, and the full boost amount knowing that I'm only getting a percentage of that, but that I'd like to see the message. Does that make sense? Yeah. Because for me, that makes

Okay, yeah I get that so if I think we can do that with this so we have it would take it would take a call it's not going to be it's not going to be in the to V itself because that's we're really pushing the limits of how much data we can stuff in here. But but it's that but the ability to get it is there so you can have these two values or remote feed guid yeah Steven remote item do it yeah, I

get it So again, here's the remote remote item becomes our foundational are our Rosetta Stone.

The Rosetta Stone is the Rosetta Stone that yeah, that pieces of this stuff together. Because that now hello pad knows which feed was being referenced. Yes. And where the where this foreign alien value blog came from? Yeah. And it can so it can go get it?

Can I just say I'm, I'm so excited about this stuff. I'm really all jacked about it. I love this.

Yeah, me too. I just I want once we so there's one cautionary tale here.

Are you going to rain on my parade? Oh,

no, not another night. Developers? Okay, so just be understand that these the net some of the names or some of this stuff, it might change like I just I just made it don't you don't have to hold off on scissors. I mean, go ahead, but like things like remote feed guid remote item good. It's it's possible. That's a confusing name. So it's there's a lot of the terminal there's a lot of the word remote going on here.

Right, right. Even though it would be originating that in that case,

right because this is this is meant the remote feed do it in the remote item good are meant for Joe's feed to know where where the source of the boost came from. Right. And so his fee his his lb wallet would be getting boosts. And his Albea wallet would then need to reference remote feed guid and remote item good to know where oh, this came from the podcasts in 2.0. Podcast they included. So it's like, from our perspective remote items specifies him as the remote from

You could wind up changing your code later.

Yes, yes. Not the end of the world. I mean, these are just names of things, but just something to be aware of. Yeah, it's just I'm not I'm not. Not you know, I'm not a big naming guy. But, but there is a lot of, there's a lot of overlap here that could get confusing. So I just want to make sure that we understand what, like we may need to change this. As matter of fact, I think we should just go ahead and change the name of remote PHY good. In remote, I'm good. Something else I will let

I just remembered I think you're right, it was Joe each boy who had the whole concept Paul each boy have on Joe. But the whole concept of splits and the new and I remember I was talking I'm gonna remember I was in the car, I think talking to you about it. For some reason I was in my car. And, and we said, Ma'am, would it be cool if we could have everybody part of the value flow? Yeah. Because Because initially, we were like, Hey, how do we get like a voluntary

Yeah, he that Paul and Evan things Evan, Evan Dade, they have they had a lot to do with it. So phase A phase six has a pull request. I'm just I'm piling everything into a pull request. That will pull the trigger on when phase six So what will happen is June 1 is the cutoff date for phase six. That's when everything will pause. So everything will stop. And then we'll just do a review and see where we're at and see if anything needs to be tweaked. Still on, let me look at this

so funny to me. Because why? Okay, because one of the reasons for getting rid of email addresses in fields and moving to the kind of non existent TX T field was to stop people from emailing podcasters. And honestly, of all the spam I get, and I like it, I like spam. I've just filtered to another bucket a bucket. I look at it from time to time, I would say 70% is here's a great guest I have for your show. So we took

filth that I think except guests. feels to me like it should be just a. Okay, let's let's let's rewind back in time. Do you remember when I had this proposal for something? I think I called it like state or status or something like that is a terrible name. But it was like the idea there was that you would have like sort of flight flags?

Yeah. Either. It was a free account. That could be a piece of crap. It was a paid PopCap paid account? Something like that. Yeah,

yeah. Yeah. Bingo. Exactly. And so like, you would have this comma separated or some list of, of tags? And you say, Okay, well, it's almost like a bit was, like a bit was value in in code where you have this list of, we have this eight, eight bit, you have an integer array, excuse me, I have a byte. And you can depending on what the position of which bits are 01 It means what does this function get? I want to tell it to do this or that or this or that? Well, like, it's the same

Tag. Yeah, that sounds makes sense, right?

Because it's all it is, is it? Yes, no. Now people actually

using the block tag at all our hosts have hosts implemented this. Because, you know, we got as I was triaging our incoming support emails, someone, it's funny, because I can hear the tone, at least in my head, like, I don't want to be on your platform at all. Get it all off, take it away.

That's exactly, that's the voice I hear. That's what I heard.

And it's, you know, Buzzsprout says, I gotta talk to you. And, like, okay, I can take it all off. But unless Buzzsprout puts a block tag in there, you were going to ingest it again, when you hit the pod ping or something else or someone else to submit it. So we're gonna go through this over and over again, I was wondering if we knew if they can, I said, please ask them to put the block in block tag in. I don't even know if they can or if they've implemented that.

No, I don't. That port is not. You don't have to worry about that. Because when I when I go feed in the index, I just I just, I just flag it.

Oh, okay. So I can say, yeah, yeah, we'll block it. But don't you dare come back.

This, have you noticed? There's a lot now. You tell me I'm wrong. But there's a lot more people that it seems like there's a lot more people bailing out and saying, hey, I want you to delete my podcast.

Yeah, they've already set up deleted my feed over here. I've deleted everything. They have, in fact, deleted their feed, and it's just kind of cached on man. I wish I could take some of that away. From you, because it'd be so easy for me to just, you know, hit a couple of buttons and nuke something I would need nuke and refresh is basically the only two things I need.

I've got a lot, you know, you've got the short list of things I have to do. And then the longer list of things I need, you know that I need slash want to do. Okay, the half to list is, is got some real important things on it. But the longer list that is one of them, I'm going to give you a management portal,

a management portal. Oh, I

like it. You liked the sound of this? Yeah, I do. And admin portal,

bug management portal?

Dashboard. Yeah. So that's, that's on the list. And I think ideally, it would be more than just you, you know, like we would give it to the trusted people. Yes.

Ideally, ideally, you're not doing any work, and I'm not doing any work. That's ideal.

That's the best of all worlds.

That's the ideal scenario. But no, okay. Yeah, I'm just trying to help brother just thrown up to help things.

That I think is the only there's a couple more tags that a pod ping tag and a couple more things like a tracker tight. There's a couple more things. There's two of them that is that one that one that Alex needs? Or one or two that Alex needs to make the peer tube stuff work?

Really close, right? He said he's very close to having peer feeds with every value block everything all in?

Yeah, yep. Yep, yep. Yep, yep, yep. Yep, yep. And then the, the chat tag, I think we can boot that to face seven. Just to make sure that we're not getting too much on our plate here. And we got to

be able to be need to be able to start up the actual chat.

Before. That's a big. Yeah. Thanks for Thanks for Nika.

Well, not Well, hold on a sec. Let me just think about this for a moment, because we have all these lit podcast apps firing up now, which is, and I'm pretty sure one or two of them are going to want to offer some kind of stream to podcasters some kind of service, or at least something. So we may see more podcasts going lit. So it's, it's kind of a missing piece. It's okay, where do they implement their chat?

So the idea here, that yeah, the idea here is that the way this is gonna work initially, I mean, I'm gonna get something out the door. That that just works as as a web based chat first, and then we'll pull the other pieces in. So the idea here, and this is the part I haven't finished yet for us.

beautify, and it will

know how to end tag it will stop it.

Right, but it's it so but but sovereign feeds are your feed needs to know what the URL is of that chat. So is that predetermined?

Well, me whelming. It all happens that the feed comes through the web. And the feed says this is what it should be. It sticks it in there. Oh, sexy. You should shove it in there.

My wife's not here to tell us

after school specials.

Yes, it is. Cool.

Yeah. Does that mean I think we're I think we're

doing good. I'm very excited about this next about phase six. There's a lot of cool stuff in there.

In a pod Pain Tag, too. There's there's a popping tag. Brian's been needing that.

Oh, what's the what's the pod pink tag?

Just it's the it just tells the world whether or not this face is, is

Oh, support. Okay, got it. Got it. Yeah, cool.

No way, you know, it gives you a clue as to how to how to aggregate it. How to hit it. Nice. Yeah. Yeah. So if there's any, but I guess it's four. So feedback would be helpful on except guests if we can kind of come to a decision or if we want to have that it's just a flag of a of a flags tag. And then update frequency, if anybody has any more input on that. That was pretty straightforward. And I think other than that, I think we're in pretty good shape when it comes to coming up on June one.

How are we in three are we in year three? Are we close to three years? August feels? Yeah. Wow, man, what a great project. So much Fun. No, I love this. So much fun. I'm not making any money. It's great. Sure,

yeah. I mean, I'm trying to we're we're about to make less money because I get to upgrade the database I tried last weekend but failed.

Oh, what do you mean you failed just for the upgrade didn't work.

I mean, I was, I was mostly getting my bearings straight. I thought, am I getting an easy win now? Not so much.

No shortcuts? No. database development.

So the way I did it before was like, you know, it's like Indiana Jones with the he's trying to steal the golden thing. And he has to have the bag of sands because he you know, he's had to like, replace it swiftly. Oh, yeah. So the weight TAS aren't Yeah, so the weight stays. That's basically what's one trying to do with the database.

And the database went, Hey, man, that sand? No, yes. Like,

no, it's like if you man, you're not doing this.

I feel sorry. No, I was gonna say I was gonna switch topics and say how I think you and I both feel a little bit dirty.

Do I Do I feel dirty?

Yeah. Because because of our light phone, podcast action.

Yeah, you wanna you want to do you want to go down the LifeFone trail here

a moment? You know, Dave and I both decided what was that last week? Just a week ago.

Two weeks ago, I got mine Monday of this week.

I got mine on Saturday for some reason. We both ordered a light phone too. And the whole idea is to not be taken the smartphone everywhere. And this white phone to that it's the funniest product. I mean, it's chicks dig it man, you put this on the table in a restaurant people like what is that? Is that a Palm Pilot which kind of doesn't wreck kind of resembles a palm pilot. And it does some very simple things. Phone calls, text messages, alarm calendar notes, which

I can tell you it is the talk to text on this thing is better than an iPhone. It is outrageous.

Although it does a lot of periods when I'm not expecting it to. I'm used

to say that's the thing I'm having to get used to is I like on the iPhone when I talk to text I have to you have to say like period.

Exclamation mark. No, no, that's not what I meant. Yeah, it actually go. Boy, this is really cool. Then it'll add an exclamation mark.

Or if I say hey, are you using the light phone today? It'll like hear your tone or something. But you have no question mark.

I have to exaggerate. Are you using the light phone today? You know, yeah, yeah. I find a lot of backspacing and adding that in? And

I mean, tell me Yeah, give me your Give me your journey this week has

like, um, was it's been surprisingly good. It turns out I do a lot more text, SMS text messaging with people. I'm already a green bubble on everybody's phone. So they know I'm a loser. I'm the I'm not an iPhone guy. And so there was not much of a switch. This thing will show you the emojis of man. People use a lot of emojis. So it shows you the emojis you can't do emojis back so I'm just bringing making emoticons cool

It's Well, the thing is, it's funny, so many. My coworker asked me days, how's the light phone thing doing in my son, my son the other day? He's like, what is that? As is my new phone? He's like, why did you do that? Yeah. I was like, wrong with you. Yeah, exactly. So I was I would tell my co workers, like, you know, you really can't. It's not you can't do this is not like a is this phone good? Type answer. Because you're not when you buy this phone. You're not buying just a

It's, it's subtle, and it's real. It is. It is so real. You almost had 100% I heard it.

Do you see how

it's very, very, very proud of you, Dave Jones, yes, good.

The, the the sort of the subtlety of it is what gets you so I gotta I gotta I got a couple of examples, if you will indulge me

Oh, no, of course, because I meant to say one thing. What, what I noticed is you go out to dinner with a couple people, we have friends we go out to dinner. And that a certain point, you notice everyone's on their phone, you but you're looking at it because you got nothing to look at. And that's when it becomes Whoa, look at all this, you know. And then you know, you can just look at them and just observe what they're doing. It's, it gave me kind of a powerful feeling.

You feel like you're in control?

Yes.

of yourself. So here's an example. So I went so my routine when I get to the office every morning is I bring a bring a thorough thermal there's not a thermos like a Hydro Flask or whatever you call those things. Think will thermos looking thing and bring it in and it has some milk in it. So and then I go on and make a pot of coffee, and I fill up my thermos with the coffee. And then I just pour coffee for myself out of that for a while. So I look at my look at my car

Instead of enjoying the process of brewing coffee.

It's in a froze. It's like, my mind didn't know. It's like this. If I can't do two things at the same time. I didn't know what to do at all.

You would feel uncomfortable. I should be doing Yeah, I wish it Yeah, I know. I know the feeling. I'm already past that stage. And what real quick for me.

Me too. I am doing so. I was like, You know what, Dave? That's like I snapped out of it. After about about five or six seconds. I was like, hey, you know what, idiot you can just go make coffee.

Yeah, exactly. Exactly.

So I did I just went in there and make coffee and I don't know. I'm like I just thought about other stuff. I don't know what I did.

I mean, the we talked about kid being you know, attention deficit disorder disabled. Adult deficit hyperactive disorder. I mean, it's all the phones all the phone and I just look at my phone. And what do I have here? I've got I've got but my my car is telling me about us unlocked. I've got the bitcoin price of God notifications on signal and on telegram and our WhatsApp and my email. And I'm like, no, no.

Yeah, the the biggest showstopper for me, it's not it's not a showstopper I'm in now I'm, I'm completely

a vault Warden on my on my, this is on the Start nine. So I can just use Tor and then bring that up on the computer. And it has a two factor authentication in there.

That's an idea just a code generator.

Yes, does the code generator so it's not fast, it's not like picking your phone pop up. But at least you can bring it up, bring it up over Tor. So we know that man dash felt dash manhood is it's got the search for it. So it's SSL secure. And that is in fact one of the they start nine says that's just start with slow with getting off stuff getting off of centralized stuff. And that's a good way to go with with vault Ward and running and use a bit warden. You literally log in through

The battery life on this thing is outrageous.

Yeah. If you don't use it for anything and yeah, but even if they do, even if you do it's surprising how long this lasts, it really is quite long.

Well, I turned on the Bluetooth and because I use Apple air pods that turned on the Bluetooth. And the air pods are. They do not work with this thing. Whoa, really glitchy AF

because I've got I've got the cheapass beats flex. Those work. Okay, fantastic.

Okay, well, I may have to get those because they know that the air pods are terrible

and they're cheap and they're cheap. Is this a native ad really, really see Brooklyn? Really? The fact that we don't do advertising is the reason why we can talk passionately about a product. She you're selling assault me? Can I kick them out of the chat?

I paid $300 for this. Yeah, really?

299 But I got the case I paid extra for the case. Did you get the case I didn't get the case. Now. It looks like a 3d printed thing. It wasn't worth $20 or whatever. But But I ended up getting it and I'm someone who dropped stuff.

Man, it's no it's a life changing experience it it really is. I mean, I take a walk every day like 10 Twice a day at 10am and 3pm. I get up from my desk take a walk around around the the office area for a while just to get stretch my legs get some exercise. And usually I listened to a podcast while I'm walking you just about 1015 minutes. And I just that just didn't. Now in Elsa, you know I had a chance to think about life. She has to think about the namespace and some of the things

go to that I think about it. I mean, ever since I stopped smoking in November, I mean, tobacco weed and everything. I've been very productive myself. Life changing. more thing we need to talk about, because it came up on the social podcaster

Oh, the nostre thing. Yeah.

Which which I'm looking at it and I kind of want to stop it in its tracks. In a way I hate stopping development. But all I can see is RSS is old fashioned. And I just want to save you it's not going to work. If you're trying to build something that is going to replace RSS. There's a long line of corpses. Yeah, you got to be careful with that. I mean, I love the idea that people want to do something with podcasting, and agnostic, but I just don't see the point.

I don't either if you if you build it, and you have, I don't know, 100 people use it. Hey, great, great. Yeah, yeah, good for you. But, but if you're expecting to make just the, I guess the warning is if you're expecting to make a huge dent in podcasting is not because 90% of podcasters go through a podcast host and that they're not gonna do that.

Now, but they but that comes in your boat has to be censored, censorship resistant, like, this is kind of what we're already doing.

There's not really a censorship problem in podcasting anymore, anyway, no, no, there is actually no, I mean, like this. It's just not a thing. And I've been researching this news, Gord

Oh, that's hilarious, I have a good take on this or a different take from everybody. You want to go play once you explain what it is first, and then what your what your exploration has, has resulted in,

it's a way to it's a way to score content, podcasts, websites, based on a rating system that takes these different credit these these nine different criteria points in it. And it's done by a bunch of a bunch of on staff, people who they say are trained or journalistically trained is the terminology they use. So it's basically it's it's like a, it's like a fact checker Snopes type thing, but they apply score to

So I've been hearing a lot about this, I listened to Todd and Rob talk about I listened to Dave Jackson and Daniel J. Lewis talk about it on their podcast, I listened of course to the the original source of the news. Pod news, pod news, weekly review. This is nothing more than the podcasts industrial complex eating itself. This is to that two things, one, purely political, purely political, which, you know, go ahead, you'll love it. These tools always get used

I listened to an interview by the founder by one of the founders, the guy that used to be the Wall Street Journal and he explained it he said I think I think the the reasoning there went yes, they're like there's there's the political angle and then there but they're real money play there is okay, there's brands the like you said before brands are that like, it's like garlic and crosses controversy. Yes.

and I'll just have you know that in 2006, we had the term brand safe and brand suitable already with with with POD show. This is nothing new but this is the thing that's I used to get really frustrated, I don't get frustrated over anymore because I'm just like, Okay, I'm just sit back and well, I know how it ends. I wrote this movie, I starred in it. I produced it. I just I did distribution. I did the, you know, the gambit. I did the press tour for it. I've been

And the end and those guard people also have an intelligence wing.

I'm sure they do. Intelligence, but you know, they have a product whales as a part of this really, the wiki pedia guy. Okay, well, now how does how good is Wikipedia when it comes to accuracy?

They just look at my Oh,

look at my own Wikipedia page. Which I'm not allowed to change myself. You know, I'm an expert on all things. Adam curry.

You You are the expert about about yourself. Now I've gotten

in deep trouble for changing a wiki page. Joe does John Battelle Oh, he's also an advisor, Wired magazine. This is a jerk off session.

There's a there's a Dutch guy in there too. Which runs with what's up guest this last days. There's it's like it's like an art collector, but he's also an investor.

Let me see. Are investors okay? Is he an investor or is he Oh, the Knight Foundation? Okay, interesting. Oh, egg from ultra low.

Yeah. Is that? Why is it? Yeah, that's it. Yeah. Yeah. That was the thing you just said.

I found. Excellent. Let's see who he is. I'm not familiar with him. He's like

Bartlett, but he's a he's a partner in some. Some firm, like a investment firm.

Oh, these are very wealthy people. Yeah, these are very, very wealthy people, though. They have they have finance halls arrived or they've got very, very important paintings in their collection. Okay.

Yeah. Well, you've lightweights. Yeah, it

was like an NPR board in a way, which is fine. It's just they're not going to be looking at your podcast and not they're not interested in that they're interested in Megyn. Kelly, they're interested in the Tucker Carlson. They're interested in American politics. It's stupid. He's stupid. Yeah. And we've wasted enough. We've wasted enough time on this ourselves. Agree, but but I just need to say, look at the history. We've been through this. We've been through this.

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Round to the arena. Yes. And he said, So Jason said this morning that they right now they're only supporting the value blocks that are in the feed but then they're going to be pulling from

is it wasn't he fundamentally against value for value? Not not fundamentally but there was some fear was he was like, I don't want to do it now or am I

thinking I don't think so. I think you may be thinking Xavier from podcast addict. Maybe that's it. Yeah. Yeah. And I think Jason's always been pretty open to it. Well, he's a party he's working on it man like he's got a lot of envy for V so I mean like this it's an AKA this this thing's rolling Yeah. Mark it's funny now that now that now that have lot you know, podcast guru and pod verse went on the phone on the smartphone like whenever some one of your shows goes live, or dudes and dads

you get you get boy boy boy boy. All these alerts I know it's cool. It's cool.

Marks 31,111 Sass that takes guts to do first like this value splits with music trying it out live without testing that was tight. I'm coming back with curio caster so I can stream this as properly

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Jean been 20 to 22 found through fountain Issa super glad to see the activity tab for this show in Fountain now. Back to meta gene me.

Oh, because yes, because we had that enabled. We should turn it back on.

Oh, for comments. Yeah, turned back on. I did notice we got quite a few of the like low you know, like less than 1000 Sad comment, right.

Okay, apparently, I was wrong. I was wrong may COPPA it did not affect our value for value income at all.

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just want to point out the work that Gehrman and station yeah from pod station but he has been continuously working on the cross app comments on our website yes

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yes and they finally him and Steve him and Nathan and Steven crater been collaborating together and they got they you can post you can post back now like you Oh

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Yes. Yes. Oh hold on a second. Yeah. And it's rad to I didn't

realize this as this had been done on a second let me just

do just this I just pushed out to production maybe two days ago.

And we just see for a second almost so I can see here under it won't show it under okay but under episode 131 Toilet scroll oh man, we have a lot of a lot of splits. We do we do. I love seeing those. Okay, got this.

So if you go to a post if you go to a post that you want to reply to and go to the little three dots over there to the right

oh here it is. I see there's Jeremy

reply to this post. Oh

dude, this is cool. Okay, yeah,

who says it says what is your fediverse account are you started

already knew it I guess because it just just gave me all just just gave me a way to respond to low altitude already knocked it up to NASA. And I see forget this oh, oh. Oh, you can you can you can undo it. Oh, no. Oh, no. What is your fit? I'm sorry fediverse account you're right. I just plus I didn't read it. Adam at podcast in curse Yeah, I

think you have to use the app for I think you have to do like

Adam add podcast index dot social. Or an O at Adam at you told me

I thought it was at but maybe it's not let me see. I'm gonna say

play host. Oh. Okay. So it opened up. Huh? I don't know it opened up podcast index dot social. Right? Because that's what's supposed to do.

Well, that's what you put in for your identity, right? Yes. Yeah. So you know, you should it should take you to where you can reply. Like, it basically asks you what your account is, and then it will direct you to that page to that page so that you can reply. It's sort of like it's, it's like that experience when you're on another, another Mastodon and you want to reply, like kicks you back,

right? So it's not really in inline reply, but it's close to it. And then I in order to see it, I have to refresh the page. I'm guessing

Well, me let me try it with my because it worked on my other computer but I haven't tried it from this one yet. Social see? David podcasting loading

loading loading which vote Yeah, okay, I showed up there it worked. Yeah.

Yep, that's what man does too. So it did it just takes you to where you're

going to right right you still have to hit reply but it does take you there. Yep, yep. And it doesn't resolve my PCI little flag in my name. Just a small detail. PCI. Yeah, so if you do call on PCI Kolon it'll show little podcast index logo next to my Oh, yeah. Okay. Very cool. Very, very cool.

Yeah, this is this is this is a big deal. I mean, because this is truly decentralized chat. I mean, excuse me comments, comments and look,

where do I moderate moderate I like any of these comments and get rid of the burden, but it's not a problem. Okay. There's no moderation. Oh,

really appreciate. It's really anyone who's just diligent like he just goes down down down deep interest in a topic just doesn't come up with it

sticks with it. We love that. Hi, brother. Well, what a day, huh? What a week. It's been phenomenal. And we got $2.01 on the clock. So I'm going to call it everybody. Thank you very much for joining us here for the board meeting of podcast. Podcasting. 2.0 Dave, back to work for you.

No, no, I owe him off. I've actually got a call with a podcaster to help them out with a feed switch here in a minute.

Lovely always added always working for you value for value. Thank you all very much. We'll be back next week with another board meeting of podcasting. 2.0 Have a great weekend everybody day see you there buddy. Bye bye everybody.

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