
podcasting 2.0 for March 17 2023, episode 126 We're podcasting Power Rangers. Hello everybody. Welcome once again to your weekly board meeting for podcasting 2.0. We are the firewalls of Big Bang contagion, protecting you from everything back. And of course, protecting and extending podcasts, you can all happen to hear what's going on with the namespace, what's happening in podcasts index.org Or even where it all happens podcast index dot social. I'm Adam curry here in the heart of
the Texas Hill Country. And in Alabama, the only man who can resolve your good say hello to my friend on the other end, ladies and gentlemen, Mr. Dave Jones.

This this will be an interesting show and going to have taken the challenge of trying to keep all the background noise from have a full house of people here.

Oh, no, I can even tell you're talking a little softer than usual, which is kind of heard. Yeah. And yeah. Crank it up, bro. Talk like you mean.

No, no, it's not. That's not even temporary. What you're hearing is the fact that I'm sick again.

Oh, no. Yeah, again, this is like, Are you kidding me? Sorry, sorry. Just

last week. On the show. I mentioned that I was working from home so I could take care of my daughter right who was sick. Right? Well, of course she gave a now yeah, when she got you know,

I'm sorry. Is it like a dry throat or what is yeah, this is the thing. Everybody got it? Podcast Movement, contagion. I think it's what it was called. Wasn't podcast, no Podcast Movement, congestion. I can't remember it was the name of the p&g PMC podcast contagion. What was Podcast Movement? What was it? I don't know in Vegas. Apparently everybody got sick.

Oh, really? Oh, say hey, Pat. They passed around this. Oh, this is like, what comes after Omicron

Oh, no, they gave up on that a long time. No, they kept cracking they had crack and all of a

sudden oh, yes. Baby cracking this with this rack. And this feels like baby this feels like baby crack. And it's like, it's just it's not like it doesn't like destroy you and like bring you to your knees. Yeah, but it really it brings you down to like, where your hands on hips and like, like, I'm really tired of this really tired overall.

Now you're you're normally just a sickly guy. So let me ask your question, Danny to tidy tip of podcasting. Before COVID Would you get this type of stuff regularly on a regular basis like like a flu or something a couple times a year?

I have a standing date every year with a sinus infection. Okay, it's just I mean this is always in January or February this happens sometimes late December okay I've got the was a cold day deviated septum

Oh from all the coke you did as a kid holy crazy rotted it

out yes. Oh yes. Yes. All the partying has left me deaf and with a damn with no nose blockage or whatever. But

hey, the index is running really fast. Okay, now you can have that corrected. Can't you deviated septum?

I think you can I don't think I talked to the end doc about it a few years ago. And he's like, you're he's like you're just gonna have you're just gonna have this he's like, this is your life and until I'm sorry. So I mean,

of course you know, you know I'm from I spent a lot of time in South Jersey. So we just laugh about this stuff. There's no other way to to handle it. I forgot I don't know what to say.

Stephen basic. Do you know seasonal cold cold stroke and heart attacks.

Oh, yeah, that's right. We're all gonna die. Everybody is scared to death now. Right off the bat Dred Scott.
Shot Carla 20 blades on am Paula free

boosting us 121,212 SATs 121212 And what I'm afraid of is the drum at this point is you know is living in a trailer. His kids got no shoes.

Yeah. This is mortgage payment. Nothing.

Trailer. Nothing against trailers. By the way. I don't mean it that way. But I just really have a feeling like man, is he boosting energy? Just test 12,000 SATs want to want to just attach drug tests to my pom just throw it throw a tenner your way. believable? Unbelievable.

I mean, I was gonna say boost the dip last week but there is no dip.

Dip is not happening baby. The dip is not happening. We are of course, lit which means we're live and if you have one of those handy dandy apps that does it all, which is pod verse and podcast addict at this point, although you can go Certainly listening on curio caster then you were alerted and you got dumped right and when you clicked on it you got dumped right into a special little episode there which is live you hear the stream you can log into the chat and of course you can boost us

and you may not even know where you are you may have just tap the button and had no idea what's happened. No idea

what's going on. Exactly. And actually, I there's something pretty big, actually, like a huge let me put it this way. Everyone's huge. Everybody's all my Oh, hold on a second. We got something really big we're gonna have so big dropkick with All right. Can I can I make it any more clear? This is big.

This is really big Jesus almighty.

Everyone's always talking about how do we promote podcasting to point out we got to promote the value for value. We got to get out we got to do more. We needed a better website. Okay. Couple things happened this week. So big, big news and two things happened concurrently. Now I was listening to NMS and P WR

he's a my a new media show and podcast podcast weekly review

pod news weekly review. I put in a package pod news weekly review, isn't it?

As a podcast, so I'm guest Sudafed brain.

Okay. That's what they're calling it these days. I'll shoot

this as listening to the what you're playing some clips of like the people describing I think there's only an A you're playing some clips of people describing the feeling of being on like,

oh, no, no, no, the Adderall, Adderall and Vyvanse. Yeah,

that's that's what I feel. I feel like the median. Like, whatever that is speed.

Yeah, no, it's not for me. I'll

tell you that. My Sudafed is basically math right. But

Sudafed is method slows you down? Does it make you speedy? I guess it does make you speedy.

It makes my brain Yeah, makes me have Sudafed. very underrated. Oh, please, please.

No, no, it's okay. I mean, this is a human interest segment. I like that it is. So first I'm listening to the new media show. And right out of the blue after Podcast Movement contagion. We've got Rob Greenlee quitting pod bean after

three months. Yes, that was a quick that was a quickie.

And you know, and no one's explained to me, I don't need to know. But no one's explained to me what happened? Which I which is just I'm always like, ah, that's kind of weird. Did you know the way it's being played I'm fine with this Rob wants to be independent. Perfect.

It was basically just an achievement that he needed like he needed to get to get like the badge for his how many companies did to been at all the all the Hong Kong podcast hosting companies right needed that one left to fill out his trophy room?

Yes. I think the running joke is Buzzsprout has given him a one day contract, shall we? So he has the full gamut. So we have every single podcast company. He's a podcast host till we start so he starts his consultancy pod easy.com. That's podcast easy.com SciShow. Podcast easy podcast, eco Zulu podcast as in Spain. podcast is dukkah. So interesting. He has a Sennheiser 421 On the homepage, which kind of tickled me says
Now it's time to start your podcast. And so best in podcasts best in class, podcast, consulting, and surfaces No matter your level, we've got you covered and he's got I don't know if it's just him or more people but as a team and all kinds of stuff. And it seems like that kind of like is his signature services. We've got rock the mic, audio only podcast service subscription, dropped the mic audio and video podcast service subscription and just speak, which is the Khan shares
podcast subscription service. Now what I'm missing here is what I think is a huge opportunity and I'm going to prove it. So this is for Rob and for any other people who want to be independent independent podcast consultants, who can work with any podcast hosting company of course,

I like those different levels by the way the drop in Michael

very good name. So he's a marketing guy right off the bat. We know this of course, we know we're our longtime I would recommend a fourth category which would just be your V four v. And I would recommend that you have a level where you set people up value for value, help them with a wallet, get everything all set up, help them with their pitch, help them with the feedback loop help them understand booster grams and charge nothing to maybe a minor fee up front, just
you know, whatever. Take 35% of the split of the value block in perpetuity. If you can, or you know what, whatever you're, you know, oh, we'll do a five year contract, whatever you want it to be whatever you want it to be. And I don't think Rob is that is all that I mean, he understands of course value for value. I don't think he's really looked into it that deeply. He doesn't have a wallet, for instance. So I heard Todd was going to get him set up. This is an annuity that you will not
regret. I'm telling you, you will not regret doing this no matter what else you do. And some of these levels are pretty pricey. But you could you could do a hybrid model, do this. This will. This is long term wealth building for Rob Greenlee. And I have your first client, and it's a doozy and it's going to blow you away. What an opportunity. This is. The Obamas No, no. So I'm listening to P WR. Power FM. I was listening to pod news weekly review. And Sam Sethi is not on the show. He's off skiing
and kids pool, probably with Roy from breeze. I don't know these guys, you know, Kevin just gets booed in Switzerland. I'm
going to be doing a deal of some sorts.

So James has a has a guest host, Courtney Kocak Kocak, I think is her name. Now Courtney Kocak, who had not heard of before. She's no slouch. She's let me say I got her website here. She's based in Los Angeles. She's comedian she's written for. I think Washington Post's variety in Los Angeles Times Cosmo. Yeah, she's, she's got something going on.

She made a hooker joke, which instantly was I was I was a fan of her. So this is great. Yeah,

exactly. So you heard the you heard the show? Fantastic.

I'm a little bit into it.

So I'll I'll just put, you know, she was talking about social because a certain point James very correctly starts to interview her about herself. And she makes this joke. And I'm listening in bed with, you know, with one ear, because you know, Tina was already asleep. She saw on logs. I'm like, I'm just kind of listening, see if I'm gonna fall asleep or not. It's something that that I don't typically do.
But the show came out later than normal for me. So I still wanted to hear to know what's going on in podcasting that we can review, which is what the show does.

It does surprise me that you were listening in bed. I didn't think that was your style.

It's not my style at all. So all of these have wine. No, no, no, nothing. No, this is this is the Lord's work, ma'am. Because otherwise I would not have known this. I'm telling you, and this is going to benefit. Going to benefit. Courtney, it's going to benefit. Rob Greenlee is going to benefit podcasting to point out. So this is I'm just listening, then she's they're talking about her social justice work or something. And I wasn't quite sure, but this was 22 seconds,
just short. And this got my attention like, Oh, this is an interesting person. I do like social
justice inequality. But I would I have to say, you know why I think they added that line is because I on Twitter offered to DM people, topless photos of me if they would donate to Black Lives Matters. I really don't think that is the kind of social justice figure that they're thinking.

Wow. Wowzers Wowzers because of course we all visualize this immediately. So I'm like you have my attention. Courtney, what else you got? So James, listen, accomplished. Good show. So James, now that we're talking about chat GPT and how incorrect it is. So James is now going to talk about her podcast, which is titled Private Parts Unknown. And for whatever reason, it's a British thing. I don't know. It's an Australian thing. You can't really describe it because it's not what's ever
bad. Yeah, this is your this is your Smarty podcast smoky, smoky podcast. Yes. It's a podcast that I seem to remember I had to write about in pod news. But obviously I'd like everybody that works in boring corporate environments to get the newsletter and so therefore, we couldn't actually write anything about what the podcast was about. Which is very strange. But there we are. This is all right. Well, what's that? What's that podcast about private
person known in love and sexuality around the world? Hello,

hello. You have my attention all the way. No, no, like, Okay, this is interesting. And ask

you soup says two words chapter art.

She's actually she's actually part of a network and I just picked the first 25 sec is not even her show. It's the first 25 seconds of her podcast, where she's promoting another podcast on the network, but you get the whole idea in 25 seconds.
Hello, privates before we get into today's Episode I want to turn you on to a very horny podcast from the pleasure Podcast Network. It is the horny housewife baby and Jordan is the host. She's talking about all things sex and marriage, which, you know, I'm in a long term relationship. I know what's up. So check out the horny housewife.

Boom, boom shot. Now, now comes the outcomes the kicker, the beauty beauty beauty part of what's going on this podcast out of the blue. She says this well
can you explain to me James because I have been obviously we're in the tech segment right now and I've been listening to your show a lot today in preparation for this. And I am like, really excited about V to V Yeah, from karate. You know, Xeni Tell me about it and and I'm not a techie like am I going to know how to set this up? And is it worth it? If I don't have a bunch of people trying to give me stats all this will they want to give me stats or not? I don't know.

They're gonna want to give you
well I mean, I think I think it's going to boost

so James falls down on the job. Oh, this as he goes to boost to Graham corner and then he does this whole thing like that and like No, no, no, no, this this podcaster court Ms. Kocak is primed and ready to do full on value for value lit go live. This would blow V for V podcasting. 2.0 out of the water. Rob Greenlee your mission is clear. Should you choose to accept it get in contact with her man set her up have Todd
fixed the get the live streaming setup? This is the this is your this is the moment this isn't I mean it's up as we

if you think booster grim sounds and the booster gram segment is good on a regular show. Are you kidding me? Booster gram on on horny housewives. I mean, give me a break.

Well, that's the private parts are known as her podcast. Okay, but either one. The whole network could benefit this is my fans live streaming live the my fans wit only fans live whatever doesn't matter. If this is a look, I'm too old for this. I don't go running after talent anymore. I just don't have I did it all my life running after talent for interviews running for networks, all this stuff. I'm not going to do it. But I'm I would like to point out this is a massive opportunity.

As well as I don't normally send booster grants dot dot A longtime listener first time booster. Yeah, this is just

empty now. And as the interview progressed, she even intuitively understood the numerology. She's like, Oh, that's cool. You know, rove ducks. 2222. I mean, wait until she finds out you know, the 808 and the 6969 Oh, yeah, this is she it's ready. So somebody please I want it to be Rob Greenlee because this would this would give him a lot. This will give you job security. My friend. Set this podcaster up.

This is a fantastic idea. This is you giving this is you giving away free money. Free money. Yes. Free money. Yes.

I mean, the old Adam. Before I was saved by Jesus Christ would have immediately gone after this. Yeah, like this is great. And you know, the index would have done it and you know, but I I want to spread this love. I want other people to win with this one. It's it's it's prime. It's prime. Even Roy Roy would probably want to do this. He's been talking about that for a long time. He's been wanting to do only fans on breeze forever.

This is a fantastic idea. I'm in full support of this. Yeah,

I mean, this is what look, actually the podcast. I did listen, it's you know, it's more about relationships. Sure. It's not it's not all me it's not really smarty. She even talks about abortions and you know, all kinds of stuff that I don't know if I'm even interested in. But I can tell that the vibe is there the vibe that you want. She clearly has an audience. So let's go especially now that I heard in the same new media show that it appears there's a 30% fill rate on ads. Which is that sad

That's not just on podcast here. I don't know if you've noticed, but there's YouTube, the ad load has gotten really weird to. Oh, I think it's across the board. And

interesting. Well, that was another thing that this whole week and you and I are kind of the same was filled with Butoh video, YouTube, YouTube, YouTube video, YouTube. Yeah. If I can just set you up. I have been through this cycle. I went through the cycle of trying to make a network work, it doesn't work, you can't monetize the network. And then and we had VC money. We had millions of dollars to do this with Oh, YouTube is what it's as where it's out. Oh, yeah, YouTube,
let's do video. And we could have not made a worse choice. It's, it's, it's not where podcasting belong. You had a think you had a boost into new media show about it. You said something interesting. I can't remember exactly what it was. It was about. Do you remember?

Oh, now I was talking about the conflation of podcasting. And in YouTube, like everybody always says that YouTube is the is the biggest podcast platform. You know, the it's just, that always irritates me, because it's like, no other media gets conflated like that. Because you would not say that because? Well, who is that? Who is the guy that he's the radio guy that used to wear the cowboy hat? Oh, Don Imus, Donna. Yeah.
Nobody will say that. Because I'm us in the morning was simulcast video on on Dish Network, that DISH Network is the biggest radio market. It's like, it doesn't make any sense. Just because somebody is on there doesn't mean that the meat it's like, it's just a well, how about I consider it a dumb statement

isn't enough with your surveys and your data, I don't care. I just It goes right over my head. You can slice and dice to stuff any way you want. Podcasting has been around for a long time. It'll be around with us for a long time. All the benefits are known, the decentralized nature of it is incredibly beneficial. You know, YouTube is, in fact, it's almost like, let's talk about a bank failure, because that actually causes a bank failure. I mean, are run on the banks, it's like,
oh, no, it's Everything's bad. Oh, that that's how runtime but Jason Calacanis looking at you all caps?

Well, that's, you know, so I don't know if you saw that. KPMG, you know, because I'm in the accounting world KPMG came as, see these things. KPMG came out and said, you know, we stand behind our assessment of our audit of Silicon Valley Bank and Signature Bank, they audited both of them. And they, and they signed off on the audits like, like within them within like two
or three weeks of the of them both. Okay, mountains, like I know, when we stand behind our numbers, well, the discussion was about whether or not there's this certain thing that you can tag them with, in an in a financial audit, you can say, in there, there's two things there's one of them is, is a going concern. Notice more, right, right, which is like, hey, this thing's really shaky. And another one is like,
disputed something anyways, it's all the terminology. And so the big the big hit, I guess, KPMG was, well, you know, why didn't they label them as a, you know, with a going concern? Warning? It's like, well, you can't, this is this is sort of like, you know, this is like the thing that you're observing was the Heisenberg uncertainty principle. Where is it a good thing, I think, if I'm not mistaken, that's like, you affect you affect the thing you're observing simply by
observing it. By the outcome, the outcome under observation is different than the outcome when it's unobserved. So the observer has an influence on the thing that you're watching. So you never so you actually can't observe it and get a real and get a real outcome. So that's the same thing with this. If you put a going concern morning, on Silicon Valley Banks audit, you're going to cause a bank run, like worried they won't
survive a bank run. You can't actually say it out loud, because then they won't survive the bank run.

Exactly. Exactly. Well, so this thing this this, this is what's going on, I think is because people are bored have nothing better to talk about, and also how long you're gonna be Charlie Brown for Lucy's football. Game Stop, stop. This is the definition of insanity. Every single time Silicon Valley says jump or the podcast industrial complexes jump, everyone goes, how high? What do you want me to do all integrate with you right away? And then they burn everybody. They don't
care? No, you're not here, okay.

But the subtle shift in YouTube Advertising though in YouTube ad load is it's noticeable. But you're you're starting to get, you'll get the first you'll get the first ad break in, it'll be loaded up with a couple of the short runs. And then what would typically be a video with like five or six ad breaks in it. The second run the second slot, you'll get like one, and then maybe one on the third slot, and then it's just, it's nothing from then on out. Right. And that's new. That's
very it to me, that's very new. Because if you go back four months ago, you're getting, you're getting ad slots full every time. So something has definitely changed that I'd think I've been listening to do you know, Jeffery Snyder, you know, that guy?

Should I? I'm not sure should I know Jeffery Snyder,

he runs a outfit called Eurodollar University. No came up through the if I'm not mistaken, he came up to the Mises Institute and he's, you know, he's an Austrian. But he's, he's one of those that he's his methodology is to is to monitor the Euro dollar market. Okay. He's got a lot like, which I think is a genius way to look at things because the Eurodollar market has probably the biggest influence on the economy, way bigger than fed rates in anything like that. But here's
the thing that never gets talked about. So he's been saying that the economy is softening, likening this, he's likening what's going on right now to the 2007 2008. We're gonna, we're going to have a 2007 2008 style crisis. It's not going to be exactly the same, but we're going to have the same Meccan like the same mechanics or at work.

Oh, especially with Credit Suisse. And now the derivatives and the swap line our Federal Reserve has with the Swiss Swiss central bank specifically for Credit Suisse. Now this is all integrated and connected.

Now you brought horny housewives. I brought Janet Yellen. Oh, it's the antidote.

Yes, but wait before you go there. Okay. Can I just say something about

the ad market? Oh, please do.

So two things one, as as already discussed on this show, and others. This came out from the specialist website search engine land.com. And this came up March 9, Tik Tok enters the search ad market challenging Google and Microsoft, which is exactly what my sister told us in her thesis. Yikes for her Master's. She said that one in two users of Google and and tick tock go to tick tock first to search for something. So this is a big a big Yikes. Big big Yikes. Second, I got just as one
of the many emails I've received. Of course, I'm going to I manage a global I manage global brand ads on social media for a large tech manufacturer that is very active on tick tock I'm also responsible for governance and best best practices etc. So it's a lot of it's about you know, what may or may not happen, which is not interested in this context. But he says we've shifted nearly half of our brands social ad budget to tick tock over the last year Google and E commerce
and other ads are also shifting a lot of budget that way. So well, this is what's going on with the ad market which is already soft, significantly soft, it's being taken away by one company. And if you think for a second that Google gives a crap about podcasting on YouTube, dude, they're even cutting people's benefits who were supposed to have a maternity benefits there. I mean, this is all hands on deck. You know DEF CON one.

Well, they they did you sell 10,000 more layoffs at Facebook right? Yeah, of course.

And by the way, three days ago, we don't hear anything about meta now do we? Right now. And and here's here's the biggest joke. This AI chat GPT that everybody is throwing into their into their product is very expensive. They have no way to offset this cost to do it for free.

Is it still like in GPT? four or three? Is it still like something like a million dollars a day to run? It? Does? That's the net? That's the number I saw floating around at once.

I think it's higher than that. I mean, you're talking $10,000 Nvidia ASICs that have to do this stuff. I mean, this is not just, you know, throw up a couple of in fact that they run a lot of it is AWS EC two instances, spinning up or whatever

it is, these days, those things are not cheap, and no, no less.

And, and so they're spinning up all this stuff. And you can see it slowing down to No, no, no, this is very expensive. They solved the YouTube cost by literally buying ASICs, I've learned all this from Alex gates, actually, by buying ASICs that do video encoding specifically. So you know, now you've got to swap everything out or add to it to do chat. GPT just because it's everyone else is doing it.
Meanwhile, tick tock is eating everybody's lunch, get off with people stick with podcasting, support your app developers support podcast, apps.com, keep it going, we've got we've got momentum, we've got the hip kids doing it, and pretty soon smartcast. So it's well worth Steady as she goes, I would say Steady as she goes, Don't be jumping left and right. Because YouTube says something, they're in trouble over there. Let them you know, give let them mess with their own rope. Is my advice.

Yeah, I think this the I think this is perfect advice. Because you get this is the this is the the sort of safety valve of a down advertising market. If you you know, subscriptions,

I like that safety valve of the down advertising market. Nice.

Yeah, this bridge, this bridge is you through? I mean, neither me or you would ever say that advertising is bad go away. It's just that you can't, you can't

squeeze blood from a stone.

Yeah, ideologically, it has downsides and certain for certain for certain material. I mean, like ours, for instance, you can't, we wouldn't be able to say what we wanted to say without without being free from the influence of advertising. But then, but then there's also that the the other aspect of it, where it goes up and down is civil is cyclical, you're gonna have up you're gonna, you know, you're gonna have huge drop
offs. Well, in order to be able to weather that storm, he really you really need, some people have done it with subscriptions. As you know, value for value is

better. Well, here's, here's, here's the one thing I can promise everybody, if you want to stick it out, it'll be about a year and a half, maybe a little bit less, because 24 in the US only, by the way, this doesn't work for any anywhere else in the world. It will be an election year. So $17 billion will flow in, you know, maybe a little less, maybe a little more into mainly local advertising, very specifically geo located geotargeted. That's where I think Facebook meta
shines. But that's a long haul before that money really starts to come out and and who knows how much money will we even have money? I mean, right now,

we will not a lot of that skill. Not a lot of that is going into podcasting.

I don't think so either. Although, you know, maybe hosted ads or whatever. Yeah. But also the cheap money as we've discussed is over that's that's what the big problem is here is the interest rates will raise quickly. You know, free money is over anyway, a big lead in to the antidote for the for the honey Money, money, honey cast, somebody cast, what is it called the way they call? I want to get it right. It's

the private part, the private, private parts. Not that something Oh, not private

parts. It's prime to private and Private Parts Unknown, private person, link in the show notes link in the show. Okay, so we just got all messed up by private parts unknown. Here's Janet Yellen.

Yeah, let me drag you down to the basement, which absolutely no excitement. Yeah, so this is this is Janet Yellen at the, you know, testifying before Congress. And I just thought that this was a great clip. Because it shows it's not so. So the it's not what you would exactly call smoke and mirrors the US money. The US financial system leadership, because what they do actually does have an effect. You know, when they raise rates when they when they tinker with rates up
and down. Oh, yeah, sure. It does have an effect. But the effect is not what they think it Is In It takes a circuitous route to actually get back to, in order to have an effect on on the economy. And by the time it made by the time it actually gets to the level of having an effect, the effect is amplified. And it usually comes out in ways they don't expect.

Because if I can paraphrase the idea of raising interest rates is basically to create higher unemployment. That's the metric that I keep hearing the labor market. Well, that's the end. Well, that's what that's what they're looking for. Well, we've got too many jobs being created. Now we need to have unemployment needs to be four or 5%. So they literally want to destroy your job, which in an odd way is kind of happening. If you look at Silicon Valley. It's not enough, but they would

call it they're trying to affect a cooling of the

Yes, cool. Screw you slave. means We don't get to work. It's cooling. We just want to cool the economy's too hot right now. Who wants to be too hot? Okay, so

what we what we learned from you know, what I've learned from another thing I've learned from from the book, which led me to, to Jeffrey Schneider, back to him and yeah, researching his material is about the Euro dollar market. Yeah, Okay, gotcha. The so the Euro dollar, is, the Euro dollar represents, in loose terms, all the dollars around all the US dollars around the world, that are not counted in the money
supply, in the M one money supply within the US. So if we're trying to target if we're trying to measure the money supply, Target, there are certain things about the money supply, in order to affect interest, this Eurodollar market represents effectively a giant leak in the bottom of the ship. Money is flowing in and out through this hole in the Feds control to international markets in ways that they really cannot control. So that's basically,

if I'm not mistaken, can Euro banks, they can actually create dollars, right?

Yeah, well, American banks operating in international markets can also participate in in dollar creation,

literally, literally counterfeiting, they're just making money

in the biggest Euro dollar trading markets are in New York. So you can trade the Euro dollar market in the US, and the Fed has no control of it over it. And it also does not
show up in any of our any of the money supply statistics. So the fact that they you know, when you look at it that way, the tweaking up and down slight tweaks up and down of life, half of basis via half a percent on the federal funds rate, that really has no direct impact on on hardly anything except local local banks, some some mortgages, some short term stuff, and all

mortgage, they're really big have a big effect on mortgages and car loans and stuff like that.

Well, then over over time, so it's it's it tends to affect the middle, sort of like the middle class of the banking system, which is mostly local. They don't have the international presence like Morgan and

regional banks, which I guess they would like to get rid of, because they're doing a good job.

Well, let's listen to the new the queen of excitement. Janet Yellen.

Will the deposits and every voice has gotten really low? It is she's on hormones. This is a senator or congressman who is

this is a I don't know if it's senator or congressman for it, but he's representing Oklahoma
will the deposits and every community bank in Oklahoma regardless of their size, big, fully insured now? Are they fully recovered? Every bank, every community bank in Oklahoma, regardless of the size of the deposit? Will they get the same treatment that SVB just got or Signature Bank just got?

This is an interesting question. Because and, and I'm glad you're in here, because you've studied you're studying it a little deeper than I am these days. So from what I understand, they magically I think they they created like 300 $297 billion or something. And this is the backstop above and beyond the $250,000 per depositor FDIC insurance.

Yeah, this is the wish

we might have partnered before I called not a bailout. Okay.

Well, I mean, take

technically it's not a bailout but we created money to do it so

yeah, like that. They supposedly the other banks bailing out this bank essentially is what it is and but they did they do that but what this guy calls a special a, quote, special assessment group. Oh, yeah, so you get you get a spit, the FDIC makes a special assessment on all of the all of the banks in the banking system as supposedly in order to bail out SVB. And so he makes a good point about that, actually, okay.
A bank only gets that treatment. If a majority of the FDIC board a supermajority is super majority of the Fed board, and I, in consultation with the President, determine that the failure to protect uninsured depositors would create systemic risk, and wow.

Wow.

So she, so it's a super majority of the Fed board? Yeah, majority of the FDIC board her and her

income concentration with the brain dead guy in the white house. Okay.

Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So so she plays Bob reticle role clearly plays a critical role in this decision making process. So so obviously, she she would understand fully all the answers to the questions

while seeing a she's the queen pin instead of the king pin. Had she had she had all pivots or is she? Any one of those elements? could say no, and I guess it doesn't happen. So it has to be past she has to be today? Yes. I'm going to do that with the President.

Okay, in any in any any bad, if any bad effects any possible bad effects, you would think Jen is she's gonna have thought this through right.

I have to add to this, that my friend, the former New York banker, who I have gone to for financial information about the markets for 14 now 12 years, probably. He is very enamored by Janet Yellen. He thinks she really Yes. She thinks she's a great economist. And, and really, really a great person, both when she ran the Fed and as Secretary of the Treasury.

What my favorite thing about Janet Yellen is how as the banking system is melting down, she's she's overseas somewhere giving a speech about climate change. I would actually like her to be at home, actually.

She was in Africa first. And then she went to Ukraine hung out was the Lensky. And oh, yeah. Okay. Your job
would create systemic risk and significant economic and financial consequences. So what is your plan that determination? Right, so what is your plan to keep large depositors from moving their funds out of community banks, into the big banks, we have seen the mergers of banks over the past decade. I'm concerned, you're about to accelerate that by encouraging anyone who has a large deposit into community bank to say,
we're not going to make you whole. But if you go to one of our preferred banks, we will make you whole at that point.

Well, this seems right. This is happening. Of course, it seems very logical. In fact, we even had the conversation here at home, we have most of our dollar money in Guadeloupe Bank, which is a small bank, a community bank, which hat does have backing from the tip the bankers bank, I think it's you know, it's private. It's not a it's not public. And also no agenda show has mechanics Bank, which is 115 years old, got an email from the CEO says why we don't invest in
mortgage backed securities or Silicon Valley. That bullcrap. Okay. So but you know, it's a conversation we had is our money safe there. So yeah.

If you've got more than 250,000, if you're a quote, large depositor at a smaller regional bank, yeah. Then you this is a question you must ask yourself, this is a big, this is a business question,

or family surviving

Estate question. This is a critical question that you must ask when you see that a large large banks are getting bailed out and made whole, but you may not you must ask yourself this question. This is not this is not theoretical. Yes.

Although I'm sure that the safest bank for anyone is going to be HSBC because they are the most corrupt mofos in the world. So that's where you want to put your money but I can't live with myself. Okay.

So this this this clip is his question and her responses is unedited.
Look, I mean, we're that's certainly not something that we're encouraging that is happening right now. That is happening because depositors are concerned about the bank failures that have happened and whether and not other banks could also, it's happening because you've fully insured no matter what the amount is, if you're in a big bank, you're not fully insured. If you're in a community bank, well, you're not fully insured.

What was she just repeating what he's saying? Or she

has, she has no idea what to say. That's why she just keeps repeating what he said. I mean, there's like a, there's like a four second pause. When he asked her that question she has no had, she has not she's, it's clear, she has not even thought of this.
I'm gonna go back a couple seconds, you're not fully insured. If you're in a community bank? Well, you're not fully insured. And you were in signature and it was just barely met that threshold, you weren't signature? Well, we felt that there was a serious risk, make it make an objection to it could have brought down and triggered runs on many banks. And that's something given that our judgment is that the banking system overall, is safe and sound.

But, but it wasn't, but it is, but it kind of what it's almost like explain value for value to me.
They should have confidence in the system. And we took these actions. So there's a special assessment that's been done on community banks in my state and all banks across the country. Was there any discussion that that special assessment would only apply to the larger banks? Or was it always assumed a special assessment would cover every bank, including rural banks in my state?

I think I am not certain what the rules are around that. That was what she meant determines the future of banks and people's money. But she's not certain of the rules around how that assessment is done.

Yes, I love this clip, because it totally exposes the the complete fraud. That is our our financial system leadership, as if, like that, there's this there's this idea that, Oh, they must know something we don't

know what it is. I need to know who this guy is. Who is this guy?

Representative from Oklahoma representative or senator?

Let's see. I'm going to tell you I know this voice. I'm going to say it's not that guy is a Tom Cole. Maybe no, no, no, no.

He's Oklahoma. Lankford. James Lankford is your senator. He is a
blank. Oh, there he is. Okay, James Lankford. All right. Onward, would cover every bank, including rural banks in my state. I think I am not certain what the rules are around that.
For the FDIC to determine it has been reported publicly, that SVB had a large number of Chinese investors that are there, including some that were companies directly connect to the Chinese Communist Party. Will those individuals or those individuals, companies, entities and investors that are Chinese investors be made whole based on assessments in my banks in Oklahoma? So what I'm asking is, will my banks in Oklahoma pay a special assessment to be able to make Chinese investors pulled
from Silicon Valley Bank? Okay, let me understand. So

if I understand. So in order to qualify for a complete bailout of your depositors, you have to pay an extra fee. This is cuz now I'm so confused with the special,

the special assessment was assessed by the FDIC on all the bank all the bank men on all Member FDIC banks in order to stabilize any, any iffy banks through this special program, the BNP or whatever. And so the special assessment is basically just a fee. So he's saying that, you know, Oklahoma, my bank, my small banks in Oklahoma are going to be paying more money to the Fed yesterday allowed

silicon, Silicon Valley Bank, Chinese investors, investors,

basically, bailout non American investors? Yes.

Well, no. I mean, he also specifically brings out China for political reasons, which is cool. Yeah, obviously, because we got to keep it political in America, in Oklahoma. So
what I'm asking is, will my banks in Oklahoma pay a special assessment to be able to make Chinese investors whole from Silicon Valley Bank, uninsured investors will be made whole in that bank, and I suppose that could include foreign and foreign depositors, but I don't believe there's any legal basis to discriminate among uninsured I get it but I'm just saying my community banks are gonna pay
this additional fee. It is always fascinating to me as well, that conversation that taxpayers are being made whole in this a taxpayer are not going to have any kind of consequence on this. I'm sure my bankers are gonna be very excited to know they no longer pay taxes. And their banks no longer pay taxes, credit unions don't pay taxes banks do. And so they're
definitely tax payers as well. And all banks make their revenue of rates and fees and such to their account holders, which means every Oklahoman will pay higher fees, and they're just gonna have we have gone.

Hey, can we move on here? I mean, this is you're badgering the witness. Who

was that? at that? Oh, no, that's the whoever the ranking member is trying to move him on. But that's but there's that there's your bailout. Right there. Of course, the banks are taxpayers. And they in in just like just the flow, he said, all the all his all of the Oklahoma residents will be paying higher taxes or higher fees at the bank that will be getting less banking services for more money in order to bail out the banks that were that were unable to continue. There's your bailout.
It's not it's not a direct bailout like tarp, but it is absolutely a bailout at taxpayer expense. Unbelievable. And she has no idea how to answer the question. She doesn't even know half of the half, you know, it's just it's just in such a catch
last 19 seconds here of rates and fees and such to their account holders, which means every Oklahoman will pay higher fees, and they're just gonna have we have on lapse banking system, and its economic consequences that will have very severe effects on banks in Oklahoma and it will also be threatened. I'm just worried about

long term we are gonna have to move on. We're not going to get all senators in Senator Cortes master who who was that who was the one that that's the Senate Finance Committee on Senate Finance Committee, I want to know because it sounds familiar. Sounds familiar. Let me see. MIDI chair, by the way, the Oh, Ron Wyden. Yeah, of course.

Yes. Of course.

The House of Representatives, you know, that financial oversight board is overseen by the very, very competent, Maxine Waters.

Yes. No, no, no dicey background there with the FTX. And everything else. Yeah. We're way off the rails of podcasting here. But I don't think so. I think this all goes into rational decision making about the future about the next, let's just let's just say, two to three years of, of add markets, general economic planning, I think we just need to be a little realistic about where we're at. And that is that the people in charge have no idea.

No one steering the ship. But yeah, and honestly, I don't think anyone has really knows it's all Bull. I don't think that anyone really knows how, how it all really works. I mean, I err, err, more on the side of Austrian economics. But this clearly, this is this is exact, I think this is exactly what it's supposed to be every single time we go through this
cycle. It's, you know, seven to 12 years or whatever. And you There we go again, except this time, they kind of caught with their pants down, because we had this long period of really kicking the can down the road with the low interest rates and covering everything up and now it's just coming back. And there's gonna be winners and losers.

And I was listening to some old lectures from Paul Volcker.

Yeah, he was the

chairman from the 70s. Yeah, yeah. When

when we had 20 20% interest rates? Yep. And so

I was listening to some old lectures of his not super old, like, from early 2000s. And, you know, I mean, I'm not me, I'm not gonna say he's a genius. You know, he's like, this second coming or anything, but I mean, he's but but he's honest. And he's just sort of out of things now, so he can be a little more honest. He mentioned that. So these credit default swaps and derivatives. It's basically insurance on a trade. It's a way to hedge against a bad trade. And so it's
basically insurance. Did you know that he said that as of like, three years ago, that there was $700 trillion of credit default swaps? Oh, sure. Insuring only $70,000 Excuse me, only 70 trillion of assets. Yeah, I'm sure. That's like taking out a $700,000 insurance policy on your $70,000 car. Yeah, got of course the only something ain't wrong. Yes. All

it is. I do have a quote from Chairwoman cheer. person, Maxine Waters from the House of Representatives side.
Here we go. My Millennials stay

in the chamber

in the chamber no less.

Added added down, do a little swerve off the road here. I added the things that you want it to the charts, the V for V

O is updated. Oh, no, I saw those of course. Yeah, of course I saw it you, you added the Hold on a second, I have it here, you added the transaction count. And you also have unique senders, which is interesting.

That unique senders needs an asterisk and a little thing at the bottom of the page that explains why the Asterix exists. Okay. Because clearly, we can't verify that, you know, if I have I could I could create a script and mimic your exam? The what looks exactly like an Adam curry boost to have a record? Oh, of course. Of course. Yeah. So I mean, that unique cinders is is I mean, that's a that's a fiction, but it's I mean, it's still I still consider it, the use of them is fairly useful.

Well, it's kind of about what I thought, you know, it looks like currently we have an average of, I don't know, a million a million shots a day flowing through the system.

I think the average would be about that. But I think the median is probably a little higher. Yeah.

The meeting. Okay, so maybe 1.5 million.

Yeah, some were saying one and two. It's really impressions go up. Well, I

mean, so now of course, I obsess over this stuff. I love seeing it. I really look at the at the seven day and the 30 day. Because you know you're seeing it actually will be handy to I mean, I could overlay this with a million different things. Because there's release schedules, you know, this is certain days when podcasts come out. The I think Wednesday we know, pretty sure that Wednesday is probably the lowest day for for booster grams for activity. Would you say? That's correct?

Yeah, yeah, I would think so. Yeah, that's Yeah. Wednesday into Thursday morning. Yeah,

yeah, that yeah, Wednesday to Thursday morning. That seems to be pretty low. But man, there's an economy here and there's real money flowing through this. And, and again, I really liked that. Although I appreciate you putting the dollar value next to it. Which of course is all over the map. The thing that I see is that people don't care about the
dollar. But I think we talked about this on the last show. I mean, when I see 12121 stats, SATs from from dread to want some namespace talk and you got to up the booths there drugs you want namespace talk a hot next day stock. Oh, goodness. Okay, well, so then you have Darren Oh
Sakala 20. His blades only him Paula

with one on 1010 with 101,010 SATs. Just blend it like that. You know 25,000 SATs from Dolby das ad 1888 from Fletcher. By the way he says hello privates.

Did he just was that about 30 minutes ago in certain houses, because that's a Satoshi slam. That's what that oh, just Satoshi slam. Yeah,

we forgot about that. Exactly. We have the where's the I should have had that. Ready. Hold on. Satoshi slam. Wait, didn't we have Do we have a jingle for that? Yeah,

yes. Let your sin it does Toshi is love or whatever.

Why can I not find this?
Oh, no. Oh,

I don't have it. Jingle overbought i There's a jingle over. I'm it's not in my search system. I don't know what's going on. Anyway, the Satoshi slam he says hi privates in certain alphabet communities. V two v two v means something entirely different than V four v. I don't even want I don't even want to know, we're good. We're good. We're good. We're good. There's chata with 808. So my point is the economy that we're living in. Play on Ambala the kids won't eat for a week
12121 to see what you can do. You see what you can do? I'm just saying

he's the patron saint of podcasts for No, it's just sure is you sure

is. So we're into the numerology of this particular currency that we're using in our own ecosystem. The dollar amount is, I mean, it's not irrelevant, but it kind of is

I can take it out, I can take it out the chart.

I'm not saying it has to be taken out of the chart. I'm just saying it's beautiful to see that doesn't matter that would that everyone is, especially when it comes to booster grams. And boosts everyone is just all on board with whatever the number the numbers are the cool numbers. The number says something just like the big RAM says something. I love that it's beautiful thing. And it's the future.

But the the unique Cinder thing is, is interesting too, because you like if you think about it like this? Yes, it's not. You could you could gain that. Oh, yeah, change it, but you would have to pay to

do. Exactly, exactly. That's the beauty of it.

You don't get it for free. Is like Visa is kind of interesting.

V four v stats.com. If you want to watch it. Yeah. V four v stats.com. Or, yeah, there's a whole long URL, but I like V four v. stats.com. That's why I registered for you, my friend.

Thank you, brother. Okay, you got you got anything, I guess? Yeah, yeah,

I've been I've been hogging the mic. Go ahead. No, no,

I hugged up with you did get everybody to sleep with the pipes of Janet. And

I don't think I was sleeping on that. Yeah, two things I have here. One. I wanted noster is still there's still some debate going back and forth. You know, like, NASA should be connected to podcasting to bone. Oh, okay. I wanted to point out the main difference between what is happening on noster was zaps, which is all exciting. And I check out noster all the time. I don't find the conversation. It particularly exciting seems to be a lot of PV and to the moon
and just kind of stuff. Good morning. Good night. Yeah, well, yeah, Pura Vida,

you know, so Okay, that's great. What does that mean, by the way, that I

think that's something that Jack Dorsey started. And I think without Jack Dorsey, none of this will be going on. And that's kind of what led me to the to the discovery of the simple fact that Jack Dorsey is funding development. Yep. And he's doing it seemingly altruistically, which is beautiful. What we are doing with podcasting 2.0 on value for value is we have specifically purposely put
everyone into the value flow. When you send a zap from, you know, what app Am I using, you know, from Gnostic gram to using an amethyst or Iris, the app developer gets none of that, because we invented the split. This was done specifically to
get everyone involved. And everybody can have a piece of this, you know, a million and a half Satoshis that flows through the system every single day, whether you're making a stats package, whether you're doing transcripts, whether you're hosting, you've created a WordPress plugin, you've built an app and put your your blood sweat and tears into it. That was the idea from the onset. And, and noster does not have
this. So I do not believe the ecosystem can only be sustained by one billionaire who hands out, you know, rewards and benefits to people. There has to be something in there, like splits that makes it work for everybody. And I think just looking at the culture, that ship may have sailed it may be too late for them to to integrate that your thoughts Dave Jones, pod sage.

Now, I think your prayer, I think you're right. I think that because they built they built in, Gigi wrote an article kind of talking about this, maybe last week, I don't remember but whatever his latest article was, he was really decrying the fact that podcast he's like over here in podcasting, 2.0 they have this notion of splits, which, you know, which and he's like, we need that. In the broader Bitcoin ecosystem. We need splits to be a thing because Gigi,

Gigi understands value for value. People think value for value.

Yeah, initially, he was arguing it needs to be at the it needs to be programmatic. And, and not any needs to be built into the protocol. And I agree, I agree with that. There. We we sort of hacked it on top. And I don't want to say hi, because I mean, we we did it a good way. I think, you know, we did it the right way for what for what it is and what we
needed. But I don't want to say that negatively but but at the same time, it really would be great to have it built programmatically into it. Lightning into Bitcoin Core even

Oh, I liked that idea. There we go. Fletcher's DM to to me Thanks, bro you know, I think yes, that's a wow, that is a genius idea. I mean, it seems like the lightning labs people be too busy defending their brand name Tarot.

Here they're getting sued, aren't they? Well,

they had a they had a, I think they've changed it to an injunction from a. It was like a restraining order, which I thought was weird cease and desist, I understand. But some of that a restraining order. It's all it's all. It's all trademark. And, you know, trademark is a big deal. So you go and you defend your trademark, and then everything
has to stop until that's resolved. And I guess this company, Terry has, you know, a similar product to lightning labs and tarot, but they were there earlier, trademarked it oops. I guess roast beef was talking too fast. I was trying to catch up to him forgot to do some of the basic work. So I end up they don't care. Honestly, I don't see the developers of lightning. And I don't know the see lightning people well enough. I just don't see any, they don't care about
microtransactions. We know that. We're the ones that are making that ecosystem work.

Yeah, I think I think the bottom line of what you're saying is that we were going to just be stuck with what we have for a while. I mean, for who knows how long into the future.

And I'm not, and I'm not sad about it. I mean, I think eautiful it's just, you know, it's like this, if anything, I want to point out that we actually have something really cool. And that is to be admired by people that most won't give a crap about us. But that's not that's be beside the point. You know, wait until we wait until the music side project or, or that and more apps start to come online. And
the musicians come in, and they see that they can do splits. And they see that they can circumvent the whole archaic architecture of ASCAP, BMI, Harry Fox agency, record labels publishing, you can put it all right into the value block, and it's transparent, right down to base, you know, of course, music, music component, composition, lyrics, down to the players. And as we know, we can have, you know, doesn't have to be 100%. It can be, can be 500%. Everything works out in the mix
behind the scenes, it gets split up perfectly. And that is that's a future system. That's something that people will who are in the music business will understand. And we'll get, and I think we're unique in that, Ben, we've built it out. We have, you know, what is it now? I think I'd like to the show that Dave Jackson and Dan J. Lewis are doing. Yeah, I've

been listening to that. That's good show.

But they need to get with the ACC the accurate stats, because they were talking about 12 183 feeds with value blocks, and I'm looking at 12,538. So they're not pulling from your JSON, which I know sounds like it should be on a different podcast.

Yeah, that's right. That's right before the private parts,

Private Parts Unknown, pulling my JSON.

Episode one pulling, Jason

You know, and of course, you know, I love it. When Brian of London comes in says, that's all high five. Easy speak. What is it three, speak? Three speak a lot. A lot of it is for sure. And love that number for that very reason. Brian.

I've got some, I think we need to talk about channels. Oh, well briefly covered last week, and then and then bailed out.
And now it's time for some hot

namespace now to to lead us into the hot namespace talk. May I make an observation?

I would love I would love to hear an observation. Okay. Can you hear an observation? I guess you can?

Well, it's an observation I'm going to put into words, the GitHub, the GitHub needs to be at least temporarily constrained, because now it's becoming a free for all of features. So you know, I have a lot of things I want. But when it feels to me like the because I follow the GitHub, you know, and I'm just a casual user, I will reply sometimes. I don't think I've ever done a pull request. I'm just I'm just following along with the conversation. And it gets very
crowded with things like past guests. Okay. I understand that some people are annoyed by getting emails from people and I get them who want to see if you'll take a guest on the show. But you know, I I mean, I can think of a lot of things that I want in there, like, includes lighter clicks, might include vape sounds, I mean, it could have a whole whole bunch of shit
that you can put into, into the namespace. And what it does is it takes it, I feel it sucks energy out of the things that we should be concentrating on, like, I don't know, across that comment, I'm just gonna throw some simple out there. But there's other things in our now six phases that are really important, like the one you're about to bring up. But but it's just become a free for all of everybody. Oh, I got a great idea. I've been dreaming of this for years. And now it's annoying
it that's just my observation. I have no control over the GitHub. That's all you and I'm just throwing it out there.

I'm gonna take the opposite side of the fence from you. A now in in one specific way. Now, I agree with you that the we have more important fish to fry. Yes, I totally agree, we got some important stuff that we need to do. I'm trying to I'm trying to wait a little bit until some of the dev and some of the existing development work comes down. In before we start in

one development work, everyone's trying to raise money. Now as far as I can tell, which is going to suck a lot of development time out of people,

no Captivate, Captivate just be No,

oh, no, no, no. Oh, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm talking about on the app development side?

Oh, yeah, well, you know, Pocket Casts is looking at 2.0. And that in this kind of, you know, we found that out last week, true. And I was trying to trying to let there be some a little bit of a, you know, a little bit of catch up to be done, you know, let people get caught up as much as they feel like they need to. And then, because we got 20 tags, you know, so much. So my point,

we have 20 tags, which are not supported by everybody. Of course, they don't have to do it. But I'm just you know, I'm just saying that like this. I don't know, it just feels like that's a distraction. And this just because you read the GitHub, and you get the like, oh, okay, this, and it gets your juices flowing about something else. And I don't know. I mean, again, I'm sorry, I should shut up. I made my observation. You're trying to tell me what you want to do?

No, no, no, you're. So that's so that's where I disagree is that I think that it's not a distraction. It's I like it when people throw just everything they can at the wall. Because we may be. So take a take a tag, like has guests, probably not going to be a formal tag. I mean, it's just so niche, and so specific. And I think we've got other ways to handle that. I mean, I could be wrong, but I don't think it will
end up being a tag. But at the same time, as guests may have some piece of it or some piece of reasoning within it, that also that actually informed another tag down the road, or on the other side of the proposal list that you can end up combining and I think channels is is actually a really good example of that. Okay. So channels, you know, is is that that idea that we talked about last week of grouping, if
grouping feeds together? Well, channel we actually had, we actually stopped working on channels, in order to go build guid is a Gu it really was born out of the channel i idea. But then, you know, we just never went back to channels. But so in that, that's where you could have some sort of like cross pollination of ideas. That to where, even though one thing doesn't actually make it all the way to the finish line. It can be a critical part of some thinking on another thing. Like
chit chats or channels. You know, the idea is that you're going to group feeds together. And you know, what we really didn't want to do is group things or reference feeds by URL, because URLs can change shows move from host to host. So okay, all right. Okay, how are we gonna solve this problem? What we came up with good. So the good is universal idea. We've talked about it before. It's generated from a hash, a UU ID five hash of your current of your, your current Feed URL as
it exists right now. And then you put that into your feed with the podcast colon guid tag,

which I have in all mine, I think I'm support Yes, I'm supporting it.

Yep. And so now once you have Gu ID now you have a way to referent to refer to all those goods, which are universal IDs for podcasts. You got to wait to refer to those Gu IDs in some sort of channels file. And that's what I'm that's what I'm thinking about right now. Is we in Get up coming up with three different ways to do that. Or three possibilities we, we sort of came up with, I think the original proposition was just
using JSON. In sort of like defy, you've got this channels file, which is going to list out all of the members member feeds. So you may have a JSON file that lists out, you know, podcasting 2.0, no agenda, Mofaz Korean keeper, daily source code. And then that would be your channel, this the Adam curry chat,

and okay, and so and how does that work for my different audiences with a lot of overlap? I mean, what is the the listener experience of the channel?

So the listener experience is what so here is there's like a two way street. This I'm glad. Okay, I'm glad you asked this, because I've forgotten this aspect. It's a two way street. So the the, the feed, so you're gonna have a chat, you're gonna have a channel file that references podcasting, 2.0, no agenda, Mo facts, current keeper daily source code. Each one of those five feeds will also have a channel tag in it that links back to the channel file. Yeah,
so it links to the URL of the channel file. So now, if I'm listening to mo facts, my podcast app can say, can resolve can go out, can see there's a channel file go out and get it. And also say, in some way, it can know how it presents us, the user, you know, is up to whatever app, but they can also inform the user that, hey, this feed you're listening to is also part of a channel with these other feeds in it. Okay, it's
like a discovery, a really good discovery mechanism. Because if you've subscribed to one, you did it for a reason, you may want to subscribe to something else related to this. So at least, you know, at least they're sort of grouped in a way that the podcast app can discover. So

my question, it's not something I'm interested in, honestly, I just I don't know why it's not I'm not trying to be controversial. What is the demand for this? And or is it something we think there's demand for and we and we want to create the demand? I'm just, I'm just trying to understand where where the where the demand for this particular feature comes from.

So it can really it comes from? It's necessary for few reasons. I mean, necessaries Nia loosey goosey word? Well, let me answer Nathan's question first, real quick. He said, Doesn't the podcast author proposal replaced the chat the need for channels? No, because just because the author, because you can group channel, you could, you could imagine a grouping of, of shows that really don't have any connection to the publisher at all. You could be a grouping of shows of
like, of all all of Amazon's originals. And they're going to perhaps have different publishers. So they may not even reference Amazon necessarily, in in the in the publisher tag. So that you can you can envision scenarios where the PA where they're still groupings beyond publishers. What you said the one one perfect use case off the top would be a musician. Let's just say tone record. He's got five albums. And each each album
is a feed. Each episode is a track. So now he needs to go with this one level up and say, Okay, I need some way to do to show like my entire catalog. So at that level, you can think of channel as catalog for this for this particular

thank you for answering his question. You answered my question perfectly. It's appropriate for music. That's where the demand is coming from.

I would I would say that's probably the most straightforward use case for it. And then all the other ones you all the other use cases you can think of you can kind of get for free.

Yeah. Okay. So, yes. All right. I'm with that. I mean, I would call it discography, but I understand doesn't, okay. It doesn't really matter what you call it, as long as it has that function. So yeah, that makes sense. And I can see that being built in.

Well, so then, you know, the question becomes, how do you build this channel file? It can, is it going to be it because there's really, I can think of three and I can think of three good solutions and I honestly don't know which one is best. So you can have a J, you can have JSON file, it's got some, maybe it's got, it's got broad support. It's it's fairly easy to

work. We're already we're already publishing things in JSON such as chapters,

right? You've got RST,

I believe, I can't believe I'm shilling for JSON here. What's wrong with me?

You've got he got RSS, I mean, just RSS itself. It maybe not. Maybe it's sort of a little outside the use case of RSS, but, but you could still use it. But to me the biggest, the biggest to or are JSON and OPML.

Yeah, and I would vote against OPML. Even though I love OPML, I live in OPML. OPML is keeps my life and my my life together. The only reason is I saw what happened with OPML. OPML is a very rich, standard. And all it's ever used for is collecting podcasts, exactly what it would do. Well, but in a subscription list. So now to explain that this is a channel I
think is more complicated than it has to be. Whereas this is only going to be done by hosts anyway, they're probably mean they have to go, I don't think a lot of hosts spin up OPML output and JSON is probably something they're already familiar with.

Good point. That's a good, that's a good point.

Even though I love OPML, and I you know, and open, but even OPML in the apps today is a subscription list. It's not a channel, I know the differences are a small nuance, but I'm just a stupid user. So that's how I look, that's the voice I'm bringing.

No, it's a good point. I mean, it's a good point, because you have so so on the hosting side, you would have probably a more more aptitude with JSON on the app side, you're gonna have, you're gonna have probably, you know, plenty of experience with JSON. They also mostly they know how to speak OPML because they use it for import export lists. So they really could speak either one,

right, but what but what is the user is not publishing the channel, the right, right publishers creator and publishing the crap. Yeah, but they, they consume it. And it's like, it should just surface in the app, and it says, Oh, here's the channel that this album or this artists or whatever belongs to, then I think for the user, it's just gonna be a list or whatever, it's not gonna does not going to matter if it's OPML or JSON.

So the geeky part of me.

Yes, this is what I'm here to thrash.

Yes. The Geeky part of me really wants to go opium mill. Because you can reuse the name, the podcast namespace in the OPML. Because it's just XML namespace. And you sort of get, you get this big win for free. But that really is just excuse me Explain

that. Explain it to me. I'm interested explaining again, what do you get? What do you get for free? If you do it that with opium? Well,

so you know, so we got the Podcast, the podcast namespace, which is in RSS, but it's really just, it's, it's a misnomer. That is an RSS namespace. It's an XML namespace. So, cause it's just an XML namespace. We can also use the podcast namespace in the OPML. file. You basically get to apply your namespace to the feed and the channel.

Oh, I see what you're doing. Okay.

Whereas a JSON doesn't have a defined schema, like you don't, there are namespaces for things or namespaces for JSON.

What's so crazy they'll do throughout this whole thing? I've been trying to find the channels discussion. And I can't find it. All I've got is now like, Oh, come on. Just you. I can't how in GitHub, I can I just search it. I mean, I'm in the podcast, index, podcast, namespace discussions, and then

get no no good issues. Oh, it's an issue. Yeah, well, it is now. It's a good proposal, podcast channel, a group of like, oh, it's

an issue. Okay.

I'm sorry, issue. 240. That will help you. Warning. It's a very long discussion. Very long.

Oh, no kidding. Yeah. That's okay. Oh, I see. Podcasts warning. We got

all kinds of there's been an action on this within the last few days. Oh, Kevin. Kevin from Buzzsprout. opened a new issue. For pod roll. Oh, yeah, here we go. Okay. Yeah. So this is, uh,

this is basically the same thing. No, not

be gay might be taking a look, he might be taking a crack at it simplifying this. I haven't read through the chair psaltery through. Okay, well, that that may be. Yeah, we'll have to read through this before we continue. But that's, that's, that's where we left. That's where we left the channel channel discussion. And I'm really I mean, I'm open to whatever, you know, I mean, OPML I mean, the point about JSON being easy to produce and consume both.

And that's just me saying that. Am I a good one? I mean, I can read both. And I know, I can probably write both. I understand both. Just I'm just going for what's simple to get done here. Yeah. Yeah. So but

asking the host to produce OPML? That would probably be the biggest struggle.

Yeah, because it goes to because I'm sure they already have JSON writers or you know, whatever you call it. I still, I still can't find channel. She all kinds of stuff. But

oh, you can? It's 240 here.

Right. But how do I get to? Oh, I have to go. I have to go through the numbers here to get to 240. I see. I see. You

just tag a 240 on the end of the URL. You'll get there.

That sounds obvious. To 40 I've got a group of podcasts. Okay. I got Thank you. Thank you. Okay, I see what we're doing here. Oh, yes. Warning. That is a very long, everyone. Hi, everyone. So creative. Wow. Okay. Anyway, so that's what I mean. That's, that's my whole point is okay. We have how many like, for 70 comments, no cross app comments?

Well, we're still we're still working through that we got we've got an HTTP to HTTP to. Glitch. Oh, we're through oh,

what HTTP to glitch was this.

But the podcast comments stopped loading on the site. Oh, and

this is no bueno.

Yeah. And so Geremy said that he thinks that it's a this an issue with the translation between HTTP two as it goes through the reverse proxy at Cloudflare. And comes down to the browser.

What is HTTP two? I've never even heard of this.

Yeah. So So there, you know, there's HTTP 1.1. Was Yes. Oh, yes. Of course. Yeah. Well, one dot I was was the old school and then went out one, which brought like a keep alive and some improvements. Okay, so then you got a few years ago, it was HTTP slash two came out, which sort of really
reengineered the way that connections are handled. So it you instead of, instead of opening up a separate connection for every resource, like page JavaScript style sheet, every one of those being a separate TCP connection or connection pooling? Yes, so you have one connection and all of its resources. Oh, hold on.
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Don't hit a tree, Sam, pay attention what you're doing. I gotta see what that is. That's how Bondo does.

He's Yes. Bono. No bond bonus. Oh, no fish share. And yes, I want Sonny Bono. Yes, I want to use the new channel tag to be a producer page showing all the other podcasts from that producer. It's great for discovery. If I listen to one pod podcast from a producer, I can now see all their other podcasts. This is similar to Apple channels. Ah, so this is a Genesis perhaps, apple? Oh, okay.

That was the initial that was the initial idea. Okay, people like Alex were like, you know, immediately saw it for what it could be, which was things like grouping the discographies and stuff like that, like you said, sure. We get Yeah, we get a twofer.

I like it. So what is this, this number? Is binary 101010. Is that is that 42? What is that binary for?

Oh, is that an entity actually mean that to be a signal?

It's 42. Yeah. Which of course is the most important number in the universe? Decimal 42 decimal 42. Yes.

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it's exactly. Okay. Well, this is a wall. It's fascinating. I love it all. And if you know so there's Sam Sethi. He is a podcast listening experience creator, and he wants this.

I think, I think when we jump back into talking about the next release, when we get back into this, I think we should start with channels. Like is kind of where I would like to start.

So it was started by Tom Ross at your Buzzsprout fame. One of Apple's features is the grouping from April 23 2021. Yes, one of the OG it's good to look at these things. One of Apple's features is the grouping of podcasts into a channel, I kind of liked this idea and wonder if we could incorporate a way to do this with the RSS feed, perhaps we could provide a podcast channel tag that uniquely identifies the channel or a related podcast tag that points to a JSON of all the
related RSS feeds. So there's a guy who wants it who is a host, hosting, hosting provider and is already signaling JSON. Which makes perfect sense. And then oh, look at this. Look at this suck up. Dave Jones comes in you beat me to this, Tom, this is absolutely a good idea. What do you look at this man?

What will you do the voice for me?

That's what it sounds like. It jumps up to this tom. Wow. And then Daniel J. Lewis. Immediately, isn't this what the recommendation tag as opposed to support and we're off to the races.

That's all it takes is one set up and one name change.

I'm just busting your balls, brother. I love it. I love I cannot believe I've said this many times. The amount of talent that is in this group, podcasting. 2.0 that is unorganized. We're disorganized is only here because we want to do cool things with podcasting. I again, I believe that we have a common denominator, which is we should all keep getting the value flow. You could not collect this amount of talent. You could not afford this amount of talent. If you had $100
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We do need to you know, like I did build the good resolver this week? Yeah,

yeah. This is I even teased out in the open. I'm so excited about your

goodness, in his life. We don't need to talk about it yet, though.

Oh, I actually had it on my list to talk about,

well, I don't want it. I don't want people using it. It is not reliable. Is this purely like alpha alpha alpha?

What are the downside? So the idea is you can just throw a throw your your podcast good at this at this thing, which, which would be something anybody could set up I guess any, any app hosting company, etc. and it spits back. You know, your your podcast, right? That's the I wish the universal and and it kind of becomes the ISBN of podcast. Am I saying that right? Yeah, that's

fair. Yeah. It's meant to be this. This particular software is meant to be super fast, it just just all add up.

It's like DNS. Yeah. But I need to open an issue. Why don't we just use DNS for this?

Why don't we call it good? What do we call it DNS?

are called P and S. Okay. So

it could be the big the big question. And this is what Christopher I seen. And I see I'm talking about it. And I don't want to

talk about oh, I'm sorry. Well, we can switch we can switch to something else. Do you want to know

where we're getting? We're getting late in the game. We probably need to thank people. But um, you know, I think I'm gonna wait and talk about guid once. Once I'm happy that it's stable and giving out good data.

Let's do that. Okay. And it won't be next week. We have no board meeting meeting next week. WARNING WARNING.

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Lobby deaf out I will definitely be have the good resolver stable by two weeks from now. Okay, all right, there's plenty of time.

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you very much monthly Thank you boosters Thank you pay powers. Everybody not let you know I have a bad feeling about drugs. Because you know he's just going to do some talent. We'll make sure no, we didn't do a tally Coyne all of a sudden, he promised he promised to please don't because I'm gonna close it now we won't see it if you do it. Thank you all so much. It's really appreciated. And it keeps me It
keeps us going. And really does. We actually, I mean, I'm just gonna say I would love to upgrade some of our hardware, if only for the issue that we've seen over the past week, which is a large queue backed up because of the over huge usage of Ponting. And here's what happened for me twice. Actually, it happened to happen with Corinne, the keeper. But it's a little more pronounced when it happens to no agenda. So on Sunday, Sunday, but today, no Thursday yesterday, produced no
agenda. Now by request. I, I first I send out the tweet and the tute. And then I grabbed the URL of the tooth or no agenda, social and use that as the social interact route post, which makes sense. And I think people very smart to say, hey, why don't you do it here? Why do you create a new post, we get just two things now. And so I did that, and I ping the pod ping. And then it just wasn't updating. And what you get then is people have seen that tute or the tweet and they want to get
it in their app. And then they get mad at me they're so spoiled by the 92nd update. Like yeah, it's not bloated to found him You didn't upload it to pod verse. He's not working on Casta manic like what am I gonna do? I don't know what to do. And it's like 1112 13 minutes and like so I hit the pod ping again. I see it come through like it's coming through. But there was just a backup you had we had like 900 shows in the queue because of something Buzzsprout was doing I mean, that which is valid I
don't know what they were doing but it doesn't matter. We just had a backup massive.

This will it's not it's it's not worth focusing on because this will be fixed. Without without throwing hardware.

Okay, here I am trying to get you bigger hardware. I mean, what an ally up and fumbles the ball What do you call it? A basketball

good one. You really nailed that right? Yeah. It's three pointer touchdown.

So we don't need

my my desire for bigger hardware. Does not over does not does not override my desire for small budgets.

With you let us know when we need bigger hardware.

Eel, you will know you will? Absolutely no.

Does that mean it'll be too late when I know because I've been practicing

threatening. Formative. You will know. You'll know when you get the emails.

Alright, man, what else? Anything else for before we closed the door on the

Nam? Good. We'll we'll talk about good resolver once it's once it's awesome. A couple of weeks. And other than that, yeah, and I'm good. I'm out of here for now.

All right, brother. I hope you feel better. Yeah, thanks. Suck. So how's your daughter? She okay. She, she? Oh, yes. She's Oh, she's fine. You got it. Okay. All right, man. Thank you so much for that. Appreciate it. Have a great weekend. Me too. Okay. And of course, chat room. Thank you very much for being here the board meeting of podcasting. 2.0 we return in 14 days from now for podcasting 2.0.
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