podcasting trombone over January 13 2023, episode 117 We're inscrutable. Well, hello, once again, it's Friday the 13th Time for a board meeting of podcasting 2.0, where we discuss everything that's happening with the advanced podcasting, the future of passive podcasts within his gear. Now, of course, we'll talk about the namespace. I think we'll definitely discuss what's going on podcast index dot social, and I'm Adam curry here in the heart of the Texas Hill Country in Alabama. Mr.
helipad himself now with Birmingham brunches. Say hello to my friend on the other end Mr. Dave Jones. You call me eating a tease? Well, you know the timing of the opening. I mean, I know I totally misjudged this eat your cheese on your own time. Okay, all right. I'm good. Not getting that I get it. I'm not your keys. Not your cheese, bro. Who's seen the prize speaking of speaking of food, have you seen egg? Egg pocalypse? The egg short the national egg shortage
Oh yeah. Oh, we discussed it in great length on no agenda yesterday. You bet I'll see I'm a day late and $1 show and I can't listen to Thursday's no agenda so I never know what you've already covered. Well, we had the backyard chickens came in handy though. You know so. So yes, we were up to like eight bucks a dozen here for for eggs at the at the heb was an interesting timing for the Dvorak publishing company to release the too many eggs book. Not an issue. The appendix A Volume
Two not enough eggs. But it was really based upon them having chickens and they just they had too many chickens in there for video chickens lay an egg every single day. And if you got 10 chickens you know at the end of the week, you got 70 eggs to deal with. That's a lot unless you have a big family. Okay, we have two chickens. We had three one of them got killed by the hawk. Yeah, for that. Remember that? So we have we have two but sometimes they sometimes they produce one egg a
day. Sometimes they produce three so we're averaging two two eggs a day. So by the end of the week, we have a we have a doesn't it? Taenia doesn't awake. How many know how many chickens you have three to Christina really, really wants to have chickens? I'm like, Do you know what that entails? And it's not just like you have some fun chickens. And just go out there with your little basket in the morning. Cloudy daddy down. Exactly. It's effortless. No.
hassles. The chickens are assholes. They do not want you rooting around getting their eggs. At least the ones that I had. Eyes are Chill, man. totally chill. Well, you got weasels everywhere. Want to come and eat them. We have a dog that would probably eat him. Yeah, I'm like you have no you're good, man. You can do this. backyard chickens. You're not on my side. Dave Jones will never touch these chickens. We just we just those have food
in there. Make sure they get water. And they just give us they give us beautiful that you have a cool brown eggs if you have a coupe form. Yeah. So it's just like a chicken tractor. So you can have like a it's like a a frame portable thing. And you just push it around the yard. You just move it around every Wow. Okay, so you'd let them poop in one spot and they move it to another spot. Yeah. And then the day is slowly composts your entire yard and makes it beautiful. Oh, I
see. Yeah. Yeah, it's great. There is easy, man. There's so you have children around the house who can afford to do that? You know who's going to be doing it? If we'd have chickens here? It'd be me. Yeah, you Yeah. You and Phoebe? Yeah. Yeah. Maybe we'll be intently watching waiting for one of the chickens to she will be all over all over in escape. And although I have to say you know, we did that three week boot camp, man. I am impressed. What do you mean boot camp?
We sent Phoebe to a three week bootcamp. Oh, yeah. You told me about that. All right. I'm impressed. Is she is in not barking. Oh, no, no, it's she's, well, she has a command for that. You know, she can bark and she I want her to bark if there's something that to bark about. And if I say quiet then she needs to stop barking that we have about a 60% hit rate on that. Everything else. Everything else is almost 100 Like Phoebe come she can be
halfway like a football field away. She'll come. Well, yeah, no, that's that was surprising. So how old is Phoebe? I think about five I'm not sure exactly. And she's always been an outdoor ranch dog. You know, God knows what her what our history is. And my favorite is place. She has a little bed you know raised when it was raised beds. And she right away. She'll run over to it she lays down on and she knows that's where she
has to stay. So when people come in. We had eight people over the other night including the pastor's wife who Phoebe tried to bite last time fantan Oh, that's what sent her to boot camp believe. Yes, first impressions are great. But we didn't under Stan is that we thought she was just calm but she was really the opposite of calm and just getting really more nervous and nervous. And then when people are leaving and standing around her and go by Phoebe and put your your your
your, your palm down on top of her head. She's like, No, no, no, no, no, no, she didn't really bite. She It's scary. It's scary for anyone. 200 Sure, yeah. And 10 pound dog, you know. Anyway, now she's been Is This the hardest thing to tell people? It's like, don't touch my cute dog. Yeah, I promise. I promise you my dog is very sweet. It's like it's just the sheer size of it is intimidating in tears.
Well to see the problem is Phoebe has such a cute face and was like ah, and they just want a hugger and rubber and everything and you know then if she if she makes you know, she opens her mouth she got a healthy bark you know? It'll it'll change your mind real quick. It was a trap dog. Oh, no. Well, this is how we got trapped into take into saving her. Oh, oh, yeah. Yes, the trap Yeah. We begin with a battle over paternity leave. maternity leave. I deserve it. Yeah, listen, man. I should have
this day off. I have privileged I have two beautiful Yeah, this unit. This is a fact when Laborat when you rescue a dog, then you're like, you know the heroes of anywhere. So Fletcher made this song formula. You get cred is what it was. Just what it was crap dog crap dog like a trap baby. Your doggy daddy is what you are. Yeah, you take her anywhere and oh, what a beautiful dog yesterday. She's a rescue. Oh, can I have sex with you? I mean,
that's literally how it goes. Even if we get one from from an official dealer next time no rescue. Sorry. Dealer told us what they are. 1000s of dollars you get interviewed. I don't like that at all. You get credit. You get street cred for that. He got all over the place. She's going she's about to eat someone's dog. Um, so she's she's a rescue. Okay. It's all right here. She can I think
you get more cred on I think you get more street cred. Today for a for a rescue dog than you do for adopting a child. I think you're right. I think you're right. You're like, oh, yeah, we adopted and they're like, Okay, that's great. That you say yeah, get a rescue dog. Oh, it's so beautiful. Y'all are awesome. You're going to heaven. You're gonna have crowns. Speaking of which I set up pastor Jimmy here in the bridge church in Fredericksburg with his first with this podcast.
And what is the content of this podcast? His sermons? No, no, no, he's doing a podcast with the dame a net his his wife and it's called well let me tell I don't want to misquote it. I'll tell you exactly what it is. It does about 45 minutes once a week why is it Why is curio caster not happening for me? Hello curio caster curio Hello curio there we go Hello curio cash it's called living up in a down world Oh yeah, no Oh no, I I hooked him up I got Jeff Smith to do to do an opening jingle hey
no know. He's like right out of the gate. first podcast. This is too much privilege. He's got to earn it the hard way. So I expect to hear Okay, welcome to our podcast close in. Very interesting. You say that because of course, I said look, I'm going to put the first couple of them together for you. You know, I'll get the sound right. They have some issues with you know, the room was a little gloomy. He's a musician so he understands doing stuff. But yeah, he This isn't
this is my main note to him before you start the show. You gotta listen to the jingle and get into the mood here. This is Jimmy Pruitt and Annette Pruitt and we are living up and down world's not in the mood. He's not quite in the groove not in the groove. Exactly. You gotta listen to 100% Retro to get go and get blood pumping. So I you know, so I said look, I want you to learn how to watch this. I want to learn how to do everything I want to do I want
to learn how to do everything. And he wants value for value and everything going on. So I say why don't you try rss.com Because they have a real simple partnership with with Albie, and you'll be able to set any say all that went well. I'll set it all up and everything. And then when it came to transcripts, it was very confusing. I don't know if rss.com is doing them, right, because they have this box and you're supposed to paste it in there. And so I random URL of the file No, no, the trans the
transcript. And it's very thin and it's very unclear if that's supposed to be an SRT file or what it is. So I basically baked an SRT file. So here you go. Paste it now it doesn't show up. So I'm not sure I'm not even sure if they if they if they have it as an actual if they're implementing it correctly, it was disturbing. So I'm I got to figure out, but here we go living up in a down world. Federal index. That's That's all. Downside. 004
By the way, very pleasant. He he published the first episode showed up through the magic of pod ping showed up on the index, like within five minutes. So you did so you didn't even add the feed to the index? Nope. Nope. sucked it in sucked in and right away. That was that was very pleasant. live inside see one split? I think that well, that split will be for Jeff Smith probably says living up and down world is the split. Interesting. Okay.
Oh, maybe Oh, no. Oh, wait, wait, wait, no, maybe there's no split in there that that I got to work on all that. I don't think the split is in yet. And on that's Well, this brings up a good point. Because I'm exploring this, this new podcast, you know, like, because it's when you see the money, we see the birth of a new podcast, it's a time of joy. And yes. exploration. And it's interesting to me that I wonder if rss.com can do splits. See, that's gonna be the issue. Well, forget
the split for a second. And forget, Okay, forget and forget the split the transcript transcript is it's, it's wrong. And and you know, now I'm kind of regretting should we should I've sent them to rss.com? Because if they can't do splits, you know, let's see. Let me look in what we don't have. We don't have to deconstruct the whole thing. What I did do, though, here's it here's a okay, they are they've taken the transcript.
And the jam, they're in somewhere else haven't? They've, it's got a URL of its own apollo.rss.com/transcriptions/seven 72911. Okay. So then the type is, is text slash plain? Which is, but if you Okay, we just the SRT file with the with the time codes. So here's a here's a, here's a big problem with this transcript. Because if you click if you go to that URL, the only what you get is a is a string of text that says https colon slash slash keys dot open pgp.org/with. This there's no
transcript here. It's just a URL. Wow. Okay. Well, that's not somebody pasted something wrong into a box is what it looks like to me. Well, I'm gonna have to dive into it. Okay. Because I said just as not a private key if something wouldn't be my private key. What even is this? What is what I don't know is that open PGP? I don't know. I know I copied the I sent them the transcript from otter.ai If this is otters transcript otter is is got brain damage because this is not This is weird.
Okay. Well, that's all stuff I got to look at. Okay. But anyway, yeah, there's no splits is a problem. That's a problem. Maybe they can maybe they can't explain. I honestly I don't I haven't a lot. I mean, I haven't done he did it all himself, which I'm really happy. You know, it's like, oh, man, that that worked. I'm just kind of walking him through when he has a question. But we have a we have a call setup for Monday.
Okay, Nathan, Nathan gather I just posted here's what the rss.com Transcript UI looks like add a transcript to your episode that will be included in your RSS feed and displayed on your public episode Page Check out this post rss.com on how to transcribe your episodes for free nobody down the below it says you can use otter so I did it and I sent him the text the full text of the of the SRT file with the time codes every two lines the way I do it for everything
that did not end up in the right spot, okay, that we got stuff to work on anyway. It was reasonably pleasant. But just hadn't figured out I hadn't done the I hadn't looked into the split yet. But I have to do that for Jeff Smith because he did The opening and that's the deal, right? If he gets a percentage, let's see and value for value he can rss.com do splits in the value blog. Real time I'm asking Alberto if rss.com can do splits. Dred Scott says if you open the PGP key and notepad, it's Adam
C's public key word. He probably took you emailed him the transcript and he copied and pasted my public your public key. Jesus helped me out Holy Spirit. Bring me some solace here. To work on that. Very public key into a transcript. Water into one But isn't it interesting how, how things can you know how people interpret stuff, right? It's like landing the plane Tesla teaching the stewardess how to fly the plane. Oh, anyway. I've done Microsoft Flight Simulator.
Anyway, you know who's not going to have gonna have a problem with any of that. Oh, wait, before I go there before I wanted to set the record straight. I made a comment on last week's pod news weekly review with James cribben. And Sam Sethi. And James misinterpreted that the story was that there are some hosting companies who are serving a separate RSS version to Spotify. That includes chapters in the way Spotify wants them. Yeah, with the dumb marker thing. And
my comment was, that's rude. And it's counterproductive to everything we're doing. Now James immediately thought I was talking about him. But I wasn't. Oh, I don't remember which hosting companies are doing this. But I think that's really a shitty thing to do. Honestly. They don't care. They don't get they are they they're losing. They're losing their shirt that nobody is talking about Spotify. I'm talking about the
hosting company that did this. There's a hosting comm or two hosting companies who specially for Spotify are sucking them off and giving them a special version. So you can use chapters on Spotify. That's pisses me off. Oh, yeah. You'd say yeah, you think you should? They should have just given them the cold shoulder. Yeah. eff off. Because if you do that, that, you know, why just do everything Spotify wants, they're not going to buy you
okay. Yeah, yeah, there might have been might have been Captivate, I'm not sure I can't remember who it was doesn't really matter. It's just I just, I just want to make the point. That that's not cool. Now, they don't love you, okay, they don't care about you. They're not going to do anything for you. And all you're doing is counterproductive to the actual standard that we're using. The issue there is that they don't give anything. They don't
don't do anything for anybody else. Why would we do anything for them? I just it's not a two way street. You know, I mean, like, where's the when's the last time Spotify gave us an awesome, open standard that we could all adopt and use now, but this is they don't know what they do. Know. But the issue is much deeper for me. We these chapters didn't even exist. And now, you know, now there's companies were like, Oh, well, you know, Spotify wants to do it this way.
Well, that's how you does it. Some people love Yes. He says some people love the YouTube thing. I think it's janky. Yeah, it just GenX up. You can't you can't do you can't do your proper trance. You can't do a proper titles. You can't do proper images, a whole bunch of stuff you can't do? Well, let's just say okay, let's let's go down. Let's say this,
right, instead of chat. Okay, chapters, all you have to do is put a bunch of timestamps into your, into your show notes, and then we can and then we'll parse those out and create the chapters from that. So see there, you know, that's great. It's, it's wonderful. Okay, what about transcripts, put your entire transcript in your show notes, and we'll parse out all the timestamps and do all and do all this kind of stuff. Okay, what about you know, value for value, value
value? All that crap? Why are we parsing stuff out of show notes? Yeah. It's like, it's like, Okay, dump all of this unstructured data? No, but no, but what I understand they're literally taking the chapter file, and then dumping it into show notes with time codes for Spotify. Ya know, so that it looks like crap. The proper way to do that, in me proper in as far as like, with some elegance to it is to take is to just sit Port and actual structured schema file
and pull though. And if you want to display the chapters as markers in a text fashion, just parse that, that thing that's already there, then display them in the show notes if you want that don't do it the other way around. But the reason that whoever's doing this, the reason they're doing it is because they, it's marketing, hey, we are chapters
work in Spotify. And what happens then is then the next hosting companies like well, you know, people are going there, because their chapters work in Spotify to new thing on Spotify, we better do it, but nobody gives a crap was clearly someone to us. And nobody gives a crap about whether their chapters work on Spotify, if you can, I will make this I will make this bold prediction, if you are not is no this is not prediction. This is a bold state, there's a statement. I'm going to, I'm
going to declare this. If you care at all about fill in the blank thing about podcasting and Spotify. If you are a podcaster, and you care about x in Spotify. It's not it doesn't have anything to do with with chapters, I can promise you that, oh, you care about like monetizing, or it's all it's all the square ads or whatever. You don't give a crap about features. Nobody's putting all the stuff that they that they're spending time on. Polls, q&a, nobody uses that stuff. Nobody
cares. Because I mean, the only people that are on Spotify are just trying to make a buck. No, I disagree that people are on Spotify, because they believe that the audience is on Spotify, which of course, there is a large portion of people who listen to podcasts on Spotify, but nobody pays for them there. They also as a whole ad
supported, there's no there's no, there's nothing. Nobody goes to no Spotify user is no Spotify listener, whether it's audio book, or whether it's audiobooks or podcasts or music or anything. No Spotify listener cares about any of the features of the app. Oh, no, no, no, no, I agree. I agree with you there. I agree with you there. I'm just saying, Look, we're not to make a big deal of it outside of, I just find that it's rude if you're going to go
around the standard to kowtow to anybody. And screw you. So that's my that's my point. Your last Yeah, Spotify. Well, I mean, now that the headline is clearly every podcast listener wants video, we need video. Yeah, yeah. Because because they can't make money with audio. I looked at this. I looked at the data from this survey. I kind of want to know, you know, how, who commissioned it or why and it seemed like it was just a lot of YouTube stuff in there.
And the whole premise that you know, what platform Do you listen to podcasts on? And if you know, 35% say YouTube? Wow, okay. Those people will want video. And then they want they want and the reason why is they want to see facial expressions. Do you want facial expressions in a true crime podcast? Is that really what you want to see? Who I'm very scared the scary part scary music? No, that's that. That can't have video. That has to be audio. That's what makes that that that genre. So
fantastic. I'm just spouting off today. This is interesting to see Albert Alberto just reply and he says Not yet. But it's in the roadmap for split. So okay, cool. He says For reference, this is an interesting stat. It's interesting. For reference, so far, we have we host 638 podcasts with VAT value for value active. No. Debt is not bad. It's quite a lot, actually. I mean, what is our current tally of? We're over 11,000 I
think, right? Yeah, live 1700 200 Some people that went up a lot in the past couple of weeks, and I can tell you what's going on. I mean, we have lift off now. There's some real there's some really cool stuff happening. I'm gonna hit 10,861. And now 10,860 That's what I'm seeing on our own website. About I think it was about 11,000. It's a little under 11. I think the the integration of Alby into pod verse which is is much tighter admits tight, working, and I'll be having a direct fill
up your wallet with a card with a with a debit card. I think debit card works probably better than credit card. And fountain having the same in app breeze of course has that in app. You know, we it's such a difference from a week ago, when, when we were struggling to tell people remember went through the whole thing like get your cash app and go to that part. Then the cash app and then copy the invoice. And I mean, now it's this like,
boom, you throw it. Yes, I did it. Of course I tested it. I ran through the whole process, I found that there were some things that that needed tweaking and a couple other people know on podcast indexOf social welfare, but it also go I think, might have been Chad F, maybe Dred Scott, maybe both were generous Macintosh, he created a video like a how to video beautiful. But the KYC was literally address and Social Security. No pictures, no driver's license? No, no turn to
the left turn to the right. There's no There's still some there's a waiting, a little waiting period because you're you are literally buying Bitcoin on chain. Can they give you the transaction ID you can see your transaction. And there's a link to the mempool which of course is incredibly confusing for people. So that needs to be explained. Yeah, no links to mempool is really no. Okay, it's easy. Look, it's easy. Just get when you all you
got to do. Go get go get your credit card, and your driver's license, take a picture of yourself. And then here's a link to mempool See how easy that is? So So again, you don't need that with Moon pay. At least I didn't need driver's license or picture just just the payment info and, and social, which I don't like giving out but it's a light KYC.
And that was impressive. Enlightened. So now when Tina and I do Kirinda keeper on Wednesday coming up, I think Well, we already had it already got easier people like we had like two and a half million SATs and boosts from from you know, between shows. And this is making a difference now. Did you say 200,000,002 and a half million two and a half? Holy, I wish I wish I wish now two and a half million but now and these are these are people who typically just hit play on the website. A lot of them
women. And until now it's a get an app. And here's and here's the very simple way to because they all they all want to do it. They all want to send value. Yeah, they just fall off the edge. So now Now it's possible I think I think this is a very very very big deal for for a value for value streaming and booster grams. I think it's really going to make a difference. And and I commend Mitch and an Oscar and and Roy
and all their teams for for this type of integration. This this is good onboarding that's happening here, especially when you're actually buying Bitcoin. That's impressive. I think this could be a way forward for podcast addict to now be integral. So that helps. Because Xavier Xavier had looked in I think maybe about a year ago. I don't remember how far back it was. I think he had looked into the value streaming in the LNP API. He was like,
nah, this just doesn't feel like it's ready. It just doesn't feel like it's ready. It's probably right at the time probably right. Yeah. Because he was like there's two he was having trouble with and I think at the time LM Pei was struggling with capacity and stuff like that he's just he's like it's not reliable enough. I can't do this. And so you know, but but the lb integration that pod verse did that is an easy and easier to sing on the developer themselves because they don't
have to. They're just they're just letting you link to your wallet you're not having to make those right and at that point is all I mean, what I love about the Get albies Get Alby system the way I think it should work, which is the way sovereign feeds does it, does it God bless Steven B. So when I add a split to the no agenda feed, which is that only changes for one for one split, and that is for the artist, and I've I've encouraged all the artists to get an Alby wallet,
so if it's Taunton Neil at get allday.com I literally go into into sovereign feeds. And then I set up I set up the split and I click LB and I type in Tom to underscore Neil at get lb.com Everything's populated that results with the keys Yes. Beautiful and I
take it back it's not Ellen URL. No, it's not us, isn't it? No, it's that it's that other thing is the other thing but that is really impressive, you know, so that that to me seems though if you're going to have a get get Alby integration just haven't just enter your your your get Alby lightning address and you're done. You shouldn't have to do anything else and then authorize obviously, service they want to talk to Xavier. Here's a word about Gulag Okay, Hello.
That's what I remember. That's what I remember the problem being is the problem is no, no, we can't do that, because Google has real. You know, they've had issues that kick people off for using wallets and stuff. But it's clearly it's the other people are doing it. Yeah. See, that's the way like I said, that's the way forward because pod verse, Mitch and Mitch and the boys they pushed. It's, I mean, they're all over Google. So it's not, I think
Xavier has a flag, though. And I like him for some reason. Oh, that's just Google. And it's just Google. Hey, look, Google D platform me from Google ads in 2010. I can never ever, ever again, make any money through Google, YouTube or anything? Why would you do? I had an app at the time, which I built myself, I might point out. Yes, impressive. The big App Show. And what I remember the big app show that was that was you had freedom controller on the big show for a while.
On the on the website. Yeah, absolutely. And what the way I would do is I'd shoot videos of apps in in portrait mode. And I'd go full screen. So you were literally getting a demo of the app that looked like it was running on your phone. And this was 2010. So that was kind of cool. And I had ads in there. And I'd be talking about the apps and I say oh, by the way, you know, we got an ad we got ads here. So tap on the ad, take a look at the sponsors. And I was doing like $2,000 a month in
in Google ad money for two months. And then Google went, this is false. This is fake. These are fake clicks. So what do you mean? You're asking people to look at ads? Ah, okay. That's what you're saying. That's the point. No, no. So you got a lifetime banned? Forever? Yeah. It's because you were making too much money. I don't know what it was. But it wasn't all that much. But it was just I mean, it was nice money, certainly at the time, but just
Dixit digs. Advertising sucks. This is why we wound up here. I don't like being D platformed. For bull crap. Yeah, we got some relevant boosted grams coming in live as we are let's Of course, get Wattpad versus a currently will alert you if you set it up. When we go live from contracts, which I'm going to go into assume is probably Boomi or someone from get Alby. Let's see. Says here this is 5000 SATs. To make V four v onboarding as easy as possible. We've added a tool that lets you
validate your V four v set up with two clicks. Also amounts can now be displayed in Fiat from coupons. Oh, nice. One, does that mean validate? Does that mean? Like it'll tell you if they'll check your blog and save the splits? Or? I think so I think so. Boosts us again with 50,000 SATs with the answer, please. One technical hurdle we had during the development, its value for value. We couldn't find the correct way to round splits in the spec. How do you guys think
split should be rounded? I mean, just down to the Satoshi level. I guess if you if it's an odd number. I think I would just round around rounding the mountain down is what I'd say. Yeah, yeah. Cuz if you round it. Yeah, I think I would round down just to be safe. I'm sorry. Here's. Here's Alwyn. 10,000 SATs. Oh, this is our one. Okay. And I guess Alan is from pure. Now. Here we go. This is a fun idea. 33,333 from blueberry. Does anyone president
have an opinion on open source solution to substack? For Okay, we'll do that in a moment. Now he's sent the same message twice. I got it. I'm not sure exactly what that means. We have to figure it out. already. I think we already discussed I think I think it was in the spec somewhere. I thought we put that in there. I could be wrong, because I know we had a long discussion about rounding. Recall something about that too. And maybe wrong. But the way that we've I think we've
been down every one of these roads before. Now not to say that there's something that can't come up that we haven't thought about. But I mean, I'm almost 100% sure that we early on when we were I think it was we're hashing out. What do you do when that when the splits don't add up to 100? And that's when we went to a share model instead of a percentage. So if you have a if you're running a podcast [email protected]
Does the index get a split or is no split? Is that automatic? But depends on where the where they're getting it from, I guess. Yeah, like always if the AP if they if they use the API then then that's when the split is okay. God Yeah, if people get their valuable logging information from rice and we could we put the 1% in there if they did they get it straight from the feed and they don't. They don't have to run. They don't have to be the way but it's honor system.
Yeah. Well, everyone's a crook these days. What are you guys? Crooks? Sam second you got funded? Wow, that was a joke. But man 300,000 Star 300,000 pounds proof. Congratulations, brother i that is an amazing amount of money in this in this investing climate. So I haven't I haven't list listened to you. I was listening to it today. I was listening to the Yeah. But did he say who it was that fun? No, no, he didn't say who it was or what the valuation was. Which is marginally interesting. It's
but at least a billion dollars, at least. It's probably a valuation of a million, I would say it's probably what it is. I hope it doesn't matter. I'm really happy for Sam, because I know how hard he worked on this. It was, you know, he had partners he had to get rid of because they fell down and weren't doing anything. And so we picked this whole project up and, and it sounds really cool. I know, you saw
kind of an alpha alpha version working. But it was beautiful. I think a lot of this money is from marketing, which is expected. You know, it doesn't cost that much these days, you know, all the stuff is kind of out there. So it's UI UX, which you know, takes real skill and real people who can do that. It's got a great developer to was on the on a call with him. With him in his is Dev one day, and they were like, the guy really knows what he's doing. He's he's good guy.
Yeah. I'm so happy. And you know, this is marketing money. So I'm very excited. How much he's going to donate to the show for us to talk about him again. There's, there's 300,000 That's a lot. That's a lot of a lot of coin baby. A lot of coins. Yeah, there's, I mean, there's like a lot of this, this felt like the last week was a lot of put a lot of just developments. So sort of revelation like, like pushing forward because blueberry? They're evidently released. Oh, cracking.
Yeah. Well, cracking is everywhere these days. I know, Todd wrote a whole write up of podcasting. 2.0. Boy, they and they've got they've you can do live item, you can do live streams now in you can put those in your feed in the blueberry UI, and they offer the streaming server as well. I don't think that they do. Okay. I don't think they do
that. But they it's a read through the through the article that he linked to, and it's an explainer about how to put your live stream information into your feed using losing their dashboard. Which I mean, that's, that's great, because then, you know, like a day later, or something like that. The Xavier says the podcast index. I mean, it's gonna be podcast addict is going to is going to release beta and evidently it's out now. So he's got beta live item tags word in the beta. Ah, I
didn't know that. Okay. The podcast addict. Yeah. Excellent. Does Liz is live streaming now, too. He says, if you have the latest beta installed, you can listen to podcasts and 2.0 live right now and interact with the chat by pressing on the player screen chat button. You get notified about the lives starting in real time via push notification. Yeah, so it sounds like a lot a lot like pod verse support.
But then we need to put them everywhere. I need to start promoting him as the for no agenda, then if that works, if people can get a ping. We want people to be able to listen live. That's fantastic. is I think he may be in the chat. Actually. I think I saw somebody boosting his karma in the chat a while ago. So I mean, I I'm assuming he's testing it live from the from the app. So that's two apps. Now they can do. They can do live item. Live,
do live streams and chat. The live chat so that is exciting. I have a I have you ever comment on on Todd's blog posts. Okay. So he goes through the live stuff. And he sent us let's talk about the crypto component and it gives a little breakdown of what a Satoshi is. And I think this is incorrect. He says crypto astigmatism. I think he meant astigmatism. Astigmatism is a thing with your eye, isn't it? It's like nearsightedness. Yeah, so crypto. I don't think it's a stick. Well, I It's funny
if it's crypto nearsightedness. I don't know. I think maybe true. Yeah, I think you need to remove a a a stigmatism is a common a generally treatable imperfection in the curvature of the eye. Yes, that's, that's that's a booboo there. gotta fix. Oh, and I also fixed new podcast apps.com with HTTPS. Okay, tell me what you had to do. Wow. Yeah, I mean, all I really want is just just put a forward
in there. But you know, it's like you can't just forward and so if someone typed in HTTPS new pad podcast apps.com, there's no cert for that. And, you know, and I guess I could have, I actually went in and looked at the GitHub, I'm like, can I add this into the nginx, or whatever needs to be done so that we can just have the cert on the other side, but then you can't actually make it forward to slash? Apps, podcasts
index.org/apps. So DNS simple who I use, they have a forward URL forwarding service, and it's in the DNS record, it's a URL record. And while you can forward from HTTP to HTTPS, you if you want to forward from HTTPS to, you know, to the URL with HTTPS, you need to have a different account, which you know, because basically, they're then acting, they are acting as the cert. So I have a cert registered for that domain name, and then it's hitting their server and then being forwarded.
So I guess they, they, they, they want to charge money for the for that service, which is okay. I don't mind. So then I set it up. And the only thing I couldn't do was I couldn't do a parameter. So I can do pocket initial Lord slash apps. I couldn't do slash apps question mark, you know, filter by app. That doesn't work in that scenario. Se Se. Okay. So that was the issue. Yeah. Okay. By the way, I think crypto astigmatism is a show title. Oh, yeah. Yes. stigmata, you know, this, this would be
another way to go with this. The stigma of astigmatism is funnier. Okay. I like it a lot. This is, this is. This is great. It's fantastic. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. What are we been two and a half years from, from concept to where we are today. There's some yeah, there's something about the live. There's something about the live stuff that just yeah, it just I don't know, man. It just, it's really exciting. It's, it feels like something. It feels like value for value. To me. It feels
like something brand new. Everything else is different. The rest of the stuff in the namespace, yes, it's cool. But they're, they're like, they feel like just sort of making things making things better than they were. They feel like it feels like an evolution of things. This feels like something truly new in a podcast app. That's never been rude. Agreed. It's really never been done. And intimate to me when you can do that. You can kind of like, and when I say never been done, I'm
sure you understand. Understand there's there's there's apps that have done live streaming. I'm talking about in a podcast app. There's a dedicated independent podcast app itself when you can when you can make all of them able to do to be radio receivers for live content that is Yes, sure. And Thank you Mitch for squashing the bug for 100% Retro the live feed now. I get an alert maybe just maybe eight times a day. Yeah, me too. That's it's my canary in the coal mine.
Everything's still working exactly. And it's beautiful because the the alert pops up and it's got the the right title the right image. And over the weekend there it was Ben Lee but on popped up. What I did, Kim wild popped up and I tuned in i Listen, you're like okay, that's very cool. And then the bet it was frustrating even because it was Wednesday. Was it Wednesday, I think I was in the periodontist office in the chair group. And I said hold on a second because I just might just
how I talked to my periodontist back off for a second. Let me take a look. Oh, it's the new media show. I really want to listen and boosting grammar. HCA. He's like no, no, open your mouth. It's like, oh, man, you get you get a space. I was bummed about it because I really want it's it was exciting. It was truly an I have every reason to be extremely jaded about this stuff. I'm not typically alive. Podcasts podcast listener, like
I don't that's just not normally how I roll. And I realize this because I always had to I have to go to my computer and I have to know the schedule and it's just too much mental it's just too many hoops to jump through of course and now I just tap it boom it opens running is fantastic. Pod verse notified me the other day new media show just went
live. I just clicked it Yeah, I was like okay, yeah, sure I'm in get me and I don't know what happened but my my Get lb stays connected now to to pod verse I don't have to reconnect it every single time I as far as I know there was no update past the one that that was fixing. It wasn't fixed and then it's fixed. It's magic. I love it. And maybe maybe it was an Aldi problem. It is something I think it was I think there was an lb authentication issue that it was
dropping for some reason. I'm not sure. Doesn't matter, whoever fix it. Merci beaucoup. And Chabot, BA and all that good French stuff. Do we I feel like we want to talk about at least a little bit about the web monetization stuff. I didn't want to talk about it last week, because we had a guest. And it's there's too, you know, I was trying, I was trying to silence it to death. But okay.
That, like, I just felt like I want to talk about a little bit around what, what I think is, I guess, I guess just my general feelings about it. In my general, in general, I think it's, I think it's fine. I mean, I don't have a problem with the web monetization, technology, that and we're talking about the stuff that PRX days. So PRX is doing, it's only in their web player. And it's very limited, they don't they, they have a lot allow me to allow me to kick it off, because I caused a
ruckus about it. And I'm partially I apologize, because I was just flying off the handle. But there was something deeper here. The the way it came to me is exactly what I was afraid of, I saw headlines, I heard a headline PRX value for value, I'm like, wow, this is great. And then I see that it's not value for value at all, yet, yet. Because it's missing a lot of you know, it's it's a payment, it's a payment, which
is web uses a different system than lightning, that's fine. But it just hurt me because value for value is not just streaming payments or booster grams, that's not value for value, it is truly the returning of value that you set yourself value for value dot info was a whole website about it, which, you know, finally, I think people are starting to look at it, which I wrote with my my drawing a blank eg GG, thank you. And
it's couple of the people who've contributed some things. And, and I was just you know, that's that's not what value for value can be done in many different ways with Pay Pal, you know, with cash money sending it through to a Pio box. But just because you give $5 to a company, and they and they and they give you the gives the the content owner X amount per minute. It's not value for value that's like, that's something
different. And so that and then when I saw the PRX zone document, which mentioned value for value, it was very confusing. And so i my i went into protective mode of something that I named something that we've been working on for 15 years in so value for value is distinctly different than web monetization. And any and even Patreon is not value for value, because you can't just so many times I'm listening to something. And I'm like, Oh, I really want to support them. How
can I do it, Patreon. And the only way to do it on Patreon is to become a member of some level, I want to give you 50 bucks right now. Can't do it on Patreon. So that's what value for value is. And so what happened here and the proposal that came in, was marketed as such Republic, excuse me reported as such. And that just just I blew my top. So I was
incorrect about accusations I made. It's absolutely fine. I want you know, we got an email the other day, and I'm starting to handle more emails you'd like that day if I'm handling the emails for you on Thank you. Thank you for your is that working for you? Is that working for you? 100% work? Okay, good. No, I enjoy doing it. Because I just said, you know, yeah, well, we'll get on that. And within 24 hours, you know, it'll be fixed. If we can. And to help us I can Oh, so there's something Open
Content Foundation or something. It's like, hey, we have resources, we got money. We got engineers, we like this concept. We'd like the whole idea, as Oh, cool. You know, tell me tell me what's going on. And I look at it and it's like, you know, it's it's like a kind of a Aetherium type thing tokens. And I'm like, you know, here's the spec. It'd be great if you can if you can integrate it this way and enjoy but we don't really need your resources for that.
Yeah, that to me a little go back to the bait was the base protocol. So the devalue block itself was created. needed to be plug and play with anything that people could dream up to fit in there. Sure, if you if you can figure out a way to put it in there in a way that makes sense with your back end infrastructure, go for it, have fun to knock stuff out. But as far as, like, the thing that that I want to like personally, like endorse or try to push for or things like that, those
things, that's a different question. You know, like, I will, I will gladly approve and merge in, you know, things like a and any kind of PR that that has, that had that fits the spec, and is in is in the spirit of what we're trying to do with,
you know, which is decentralized payments. So, but that's, you know, that's a different question from my own personal beliefs in which is, and on that note, I go back to, if the base protocol itself is open, and decentralized and free and accessible, then what's built on top of it, like layers, 234, whatever, they may not be perfect, but they'll at least maintain that that base level of freedom. So they sort of inherit the properties of the of of that base level of the parents so to
speak. And that's that's the way that's why that's why I'm on Bitcoin to for this for the value for value thing for lightning. Yeah. Is because, you know, Bitcoin itself cannot handle the volume of traffic and the fee structure and all that stuff that's necessary to do this stuff. But But lightning can. But is lightning a perfect protocol? No, not by any stretch of the imagination. And I think everybody, hopefully, hopefully.
And I think everybody involved in the lightning ecosystem would admit that, if they're trying to be out, if they're being honest, I mean, things like keys. And these are, these are not perfectly designed protocols, if there even is such a thing. But when you compare it to something like web monetization, when if I do like, if, if I'm talking about pure decentralized payments, I can participate in the Lightning Network without
anyone else. Right, not as just an end user. But actually, in the infrastructure flow itself. And that's in the spec, it says, specifically, from the user directly to the producer. Yeah, I can be Yes, I can be a node within the network exchanging payment traffic, I can be in the flow, and there's nothing else there. There's no, I don't have I'm not, I'm not a lower level, excuse me, a higher level node, where I have to then
request to some to some lower level to do a thing. I'm at a, when you're when you're when you're running a lightning node, you're already at the at your equal equal, everybody's equal. Yes. And so when you know, that is contrasted with something like web monetization, and again, I want to say the web monetization stuff is fine. It's I merged it in, it's in there, it's in the spec now. But here's the flaw. And this this, I'm sorry. If the thing was a web monetization protocol, the the
inter ledger protocol, the ILP stuff, it is inscrutable. It's not only inscrutable to most human beings, if you read the spec, but you also to be at the exchange and to be a node within there. You have to have access to to banking, you have to have, you essentially have to have lots of money and lots of resources to integrate with the traditional financial system, and other blockchains it is by no means anything that any normal human being can do with limited, normal average human
being resources. That's what that's what I think we all just need to be aware of you, you were talking about to boredom are two things that fit a spec, but other than that, they they're not comparable in any way. First of all, new show title, inscrutable. Great word, inscrutable money. It's that's do it. The definition of inscrutable is interesting, inscrutable, not readily investigated, interpreted or understood. I like inscrutable good word.
This, to me is a bit of a throwback to a, here's a, here's the overall problem. Just getting something into the spec or putting something, the value block is really not even half the work. This reminds me of the ln URL mafia. And all they were interested in is that their version of payments was in the spec. No one incentivized a single developer of any apps. And, you know, when and you know, the the Interledger. Folks, they reached out to us they say you want to grant you
want some money? No, no, thank you for a whole bunch of reasons, our own personal reasons, but we don't really want to take any corporate money. That's bottom line, we don't want to take any corporate money from anybody, because then we are, you know, we could we've been offered lots of things, advisor, ships, shares, you know, no, no, no, no, no, we don't want that. Because then then we're compromised, or
potentially compromised. And so you know, if, if a company gives you money to create something, and then get it into the 2.0 spec, that's great. But still, we have all these developers who are, are walking the hanging on by their fingernails to the ledge, you know, of just scraping by to to make their apps work. And it's a huge ask to implement something else. That's my problem. It's like, okay, that's great. You can put
a visa put your stuff in there. Yeah. Now, it'd be really easy to say, oh, yeah, you can use Visa card, although you can't but okay. But that's, that's just a part of the equation. And we spent years, literally years, working with app developers and hosting companies, and wallet providers to bring this all together. So, you know, you come back when you've done some work is kind of how I feel about it.
Well, that, you know, that's it's not, it's not necessarily you know, we just need to, I think we just need to all understand what it is really, I think that's the biggest thing. You know, it looks like, based on the proposal that Benjamin Bellamy link to, in again, I just want to be as clear as I can be, this is not a criticism in any way of PRX or anything like that, but, but they appear at PRX got paid to do that integration. It was fine. It looks like the grant was like
$85,000. So that can't that grant came from that coil fund or whatever that thing is. And coil is the company that's pushing this Interledger spec. And so PRX got paid to do that integration, that's fine. But, you know, if any company's business plan that involves giving away $85,000, to have somebody support your protocol, he's probably going to have in that same business plan a future where they make a large amount of money off that infrastructure.
Hey, song, I really liked your r&b song, here's a pink Cadillac. Yep, don't worry, gotcha cover. Exactly. And that's there. Again, I have no problem with any of this. I just think we everybody needs, we all need to understand what the, what the pieces are here, what the what's going on, so that we can make so we can have proper understanding of of, of what we intend to support or how we're thinking
about these things. Because I mean, if like if stripe stripe wanted to stripe wanted to turn their API into a web standard, now everybody's going to use the stripe infrastructure. I think we would all agree that's, that's not a open system. No. I mean, would it technically fit the spec? Yeah. But I don't think we would, we would none of us would be excited. Because you're like, Okay, well, you can still be D platformed. You can still be taken off, you know, you can still have your payments
revoked, you can still do all this kind of stuff. And could is it possible that in the in a future LSP type infrastructure? I've talked with Alex about this, we've had good conversations about the patina about what is the future for LSP type stuff, where where you're sort of renting other people's channels and that kind of thing. You know, there's concerns there because you know, you could once you sort of go out into that world will you know, maybe maybe there's possibility for payment
censorship there. Sure. I don't I don't know. But, but I guess I keep coming back to this censorship possibility with get out Be as well, I mean, get Albey consent, if I'm not saying I'm just saying, if you're not in, anything's possible in that regard. And of course, you know, value for value was never intended to be censorship resistant. This was the upgrade in my mind. But I know that if I installed a know that if I install a, if I install an app with the full notes and libraries, and the
podcaster, I'm trying to support runs their own node. I know in at least that one scenario, I know that payment is going to go through, nothing's gonna stop it. Right. So So there are lots of ways that even lightning itself can be, you know, not the panacea and the Savior that the people may think it is. But at least the protocol spec itself is adhered to in a very strict way. That does give you at least the promise of that of that freedom. You know, and I think there's always that fallback,
you know, it's there. But with something like internal Interledger, or, or some other system, that not even that prompt that that promise is not even there, I would have less of an issue with it, if you could determine how much you're giving. Because I know there's really no difference between, you know, sticking your money into coil, and then, you know, having it go to podcasters on the other end, but not being able to determine how much and for the podcast and
not being able to create a split. I mean, that's just not value for value. That's a micro payment system. That's gonna be the same, probably with the LSAT system. I'm, you know, will the LSAT, will they support the value block? You know, I don't know,
for 95% of podcasts, this is just not even an issue. But there are but there's that low single digit percentage of podcasts that, that push the envelope and are going to, you know, and it's not just it's not just wacky stuff, I mean, people who have whistleblowers on their show, there's lots of scenarios that you can think up where somebody's monetization would be
threatened. And and there are going to be a small percentage of shows out there where that really is an issue in legitimate ways not for not for what political crap but in legitimate ways that's really an issue of repressive regimes Podcast coming out of China who knows just think you can think of a dozen if you just sit down for a while. So this is not an it's not an issue. The being being the platform resistant is not an
issue that to take lightly. It is an important issue. And so I think that does actually have to play into the things that we support and when I mean like, like push, you know, like, Hey, Rob with the things that we do rah rah for well, this Yeah, rah rah. Exactly. That's what we started this for those very reasons. Yeah. People were being thrown
off of Apple podcasts and pay Powell was clamping down. That would that's our and, and just by stating that a lot of people didn't like us in the beginning and we never will and never will. And we and we softened our stance. Oh, by the way, podcast index dot socialist blocked by a number of of instances because you know, we're all for free speech. It's very bad. We're fascia J sash. news show title fashio adjacent. That was one of the reasons fascia adjacent. I didn't need
what's funny is I didn't even know I was a fascist. Now is Sal Mastodon is FAS, H adjacent how do they fat? Yeah, if they SHF bash fast, Jason kind of like that. That's a that's a bumper sticker. It's always fun. It's always fun to be for something about yourself to be revealed to you buy Rando on social media. Anyway, we wanted to talk about just you know, I mean, it's a
big deal. And I would welcome PRX to, you know, if they've, if they're interested, we'll give you all the liquidity we can give you if you want me to give you $85,000 But we'll get we'll give you a channel that will give you a channel with with millions of stats, we'll do that we'd love to know if it's already for you. You're doing the work and just add a couple things. I don't think PRX supports any other value for value system, do they?
I don't know that they ever would know, I could be you know, I hope I'm wrong. But I feel like they're the public. The public radio audience. Probably disproportionately is or hates Bitcoin. I mean, I feel like that's a true statement. Maybe. Well, if it's if it's Yeah, I mean, yes, if you if you yeah. crypto. Oh, it's crypto bros. That's That's enough. Yeah. Yeah. No, hopefully one day we'll that stigma will will be
go will go away. But I mean until Until then I'm not expecting to hear Ira Glass or you know, doing a booster green corner anytime soon. It will be hilarious. He'd be great at it. I'm sure he'd be fantastic. Yeah, no. Do you see the Cloudflare? I did the mastodon game. Yeah, I have it in the show notes even figured we bring that up. So is that something that the devs can use to integrate wildebeest and
activity pub and Mastodon compatible server. So if somebody can just spin up right away, it it appears so they don't know anything about it yet, because I just saw Nathan's post about it today. And it looks like some sort of like lightweight combination of of an activity pub. With login activity, pub supporting server, well, you can do it, you can do it with an API. And you can do
it without images. Which is a huge savings, huge savings, huge savings you can do you can 100,000 images a month storage $5 $200,010 $1,000,050, a custom blah, blah, blah, but you but you cannot you can also choose to not activate it. So it might be perfect just for for cross app comments. That's what it feels like the thing that I was about to build.
Yeah. Well, but for the same reason you were building a bridge with with with helipad, and I'm kind of interested in hearing what you're what you were planning, or maybe you already started working on it? Well, I had been, I've not done any coding yet. But I have it written some some of the parts written out on paper, I usually throw things out on paper first. And so the that was basically what I was looking at is to make as much of it as into static
files as possible. So there's the web finger component, the, the, the JSON LD, all of those things could be just a static files that get updated when, when there's a status change, then there's the, the sort of notification or action part of it. That's, that's what I was trying to work on as I was going to pull in the shell of what hell hell Upad was because it's got all the pieces that I need there. And then sort of like,
strip that out and begin to build off of that. And then I'm kind of wondering if we're just going to give this a shot first. I mean, if it's cheap, if it's like super dirt cheap. I mean, I'm, you know, they have a whole free tier. Yeah, I mean, I want the stuff that we build, like Hello, Pat, and things like that. I want that stuff to be runnable for by people in their own infrastructure, not dependent on
things. But you know, I don't know as sometimes I don't know, I mean, how you'd have to ask yourself, well, how many people are going to run a lightning you know, Ally need to activity pub bridge, I mean, I don't know that that's really going to be something that lots of people want it to. That's a really specific niche thing. So sometimes I don't feel really like it's worth the time because when you make something when you make something, oh, it'll be open whatever we do will be open
source. But I mean, when you make use something, not only open source but also when you when you curate it and care for it in a way that lets other people run it on their system. Yeah, that's, that's you're signing up for support long term for a lot of work, a lot of work and a lot of bug fixes and things like that. And I don't not sure this I'm not sure the
trade off here is worth it. But I don't know maybe I mean, we'll we'll see this may not work like I think yeah, so if I were to describe this you were going to do a basically a mastodon API server in rust. I'm hearing you say it would be a it would be a US it would be a software that looks for incoming lightning payments. That queries a node for incoming payments. extracts the TLV sees if the message is is meant to be public or not if it's okay to for it to be
public. And then if it is it crossed it posts it to it looks up the episode information out of the to V gets the root post from the social interact tag if there is one and if there is one it posts as that As a reply to that Ruth doll, that's beautiful. Let me go to chat GPT. Let me ask them to write the code on. Oh, Chad GPT is at capacity right now. Oh, no. Oh, that's $3 million a day hurts. Oh, no, oh, no. But last server cannot cope the error message rings
loud and clear. Please check back soon. You can't even ask it. When it's going to be back up again. You can get notified when we're back. And you fill in your email address. You get notified when they get more money. Can I heard that they heard that that thing cost like $3 million a day to run? Well, there's a lot of noise about this. And I made the bold prediction on the show. We didn't hear yesterday I said this thing is going to fail. It's gonna be a massive failure.
It's gonna be billions of dollars and for whatever the reason is, it's not going to take off just yet. GPT. Yeah. This whole book I read, and I actually got it to admit the other day that it was typing. He got it to Oh, yeah, I did. I was I met. Because it's, yes. Well, it's a trick, you know, what is the trick? The trick to humanizes it is it's typing its answer to you. You know, it's a part in my mind, that's a parlor trick. You know what I mean? It's like, okay, that's
impressive. But I said, I didn't even ask a question. I say. He's typing out the words of I did. I said to a statement, it is a parlor trick. typing out the words to make you appear more human in quotes. Answer Yes. providing answers in a way that is similar to how a human would respond is one way to make the interaction with the AI feel more natural and intuitive for users? There you go. It's a trick. So it feels if it just spit back a block of code, it wouldn't be as exciting.
Yeah, so the only thing that would make it better is if it was in that green screen, monochrome CRT format, and it ended with would you like to play a game that would then it would be good. It was all grainy. Yeah. So it's a parlor trick, really. And it's wrong. I mean, that's really wrong. And that's going to piss people off. Now, the one thing that I have, I don't have X says to it,
because I didn't want to give it my personal information. But the one one thing I don't know that anybody's asked it is, write some code that will query the podcast index. Okay, hold on. I just got in again. Let me okay, they get them they get a VC infusion. They got some money. Oh, it's all spending a lot of time on signing in. Oh, I don't know. I don't know you're getting. Wow, I wish I had the Ms. PacMan sad sound. Well, that may not log
in. Okay. Okay. Oh, wait, I'm sorry. Here it is. What was the question? ricin code that will query podcast index for episode data. Podcast index. I'll do.org and give it a help write some code that will query? Because that's what you said. Yeah, no, no, I'm laughing to myself. No query the podcast, index API index API for episode data. For Episode Episode data. All right. Let's go. Here's some Python code that uses the request library to query the podcast API for episode data.
Podcast API was a podcast API, a podcast index API. I'm sorry, it's writing import requests. It has a URL for the module episode API dot podcast index.org/api/one.zero. Episode slash bi underscore feed. Let me send this code. Let me send this code to you Dave. I'm not sure if it's actually code. I wonder if you go, what if it just basically just scraped the GitHub repo? Out? In my mind, it gives me a whole explanation. Oh, they've got more code. Oh, goodness.
What's it doing now as much as in the code above, we first I sent it to you on signal. We first import the request library. Then we defined the base URL for the podcast. It's basically just it gets the response to JSON. And that's completely wrong. Even I can see this is wrong. This is wrong. It's showing you through zation tokens. It's showing you how to access an API basically is not held feeds.megaphone.fm/some podcast dash feed, okay.
Well, that's not even they don't even get our API endpoint, right? It's not episodes slash by underscore feed. That's wrong. Well, how come my code doesn't work? Put in the code didn't work. Let's see what it says somebody in Marmo or somebody is going to email us and say, Hey, I got this code and it doesn't work. Can you help me troubleshoot and it's gonna be this crap. Anyway, it spending, I'm gonna say 24 hours you give me 24 hours.
It's been it's spending a lot of time telling me why why it's not gonna work. Okay, fine. All right, so it's not all that impressive. Gotcha. Yes. Ah, all right. What else do we have to talk about? I have a couple of things here. What do you have anything on your oh, I want to thank blueberry, I put two links in, in the show notes. For the it's the boost bots, code, GitHub, and the iron cacophony, which is the framework for triggering sounds
via IRC. So great name, but I'd love to have an umbrella app or something or something that that just runs this stuff. Because clearly my chat GPT is not going to be able to help me. I'd love I'd love to have this, you know, firing different sounds. It's cool. It's really, really cool. I like it a lot. I got. So I've been playing around with Nathan gathright. We're talking a lot about him today. He he's actually going to be on the show soon. Post this, get him on Nathan, Nathan G.
From from Nathan gathright. He's worked for Spotify. Now. He's they just He's all over podcast index dot social. He's real helpful. Good guy. Right. But he wrote a he wrote a podcast, image API using Cloudflare workers. And he's showing me how he sent me the code, show me how to deploy it. And it works great. So I've been playing around with that that's the same as the thing we've been trying to build for years, you know,
multiple times too. So basically, you can just ask it for a you can just ask it for a an image of a feed of a feed GUID. You can just say, here's the feed good. And I need an image. Any I need its image and I want it to be this size. And it will just give all right, right? How beautiful. You've been working on that? No, it will. I've been playing around with the code. He wrote, oh, cool. Works great. I deployed it to our Cloudflare you know, instance, or schema or whatever you want to call that
tenant, or Cloudflare tenant, and it works. It works killer. And so I want to I gotta have get some a little bit more time to, to play with and see it, make sure I fully understand how it's working. And then hopefully, we can get him on the show. Because he's also building steno.fm. You know, the transcript. Right. Okay. Now I know what you're talking about. Yes, yes. So hopefully, when he gets some traction on that, it gets ready for that we'll have him on, we just go over all of it at the
same time. But it's pretty killer. And I'm Hope I'm hoping that this will solve people's problems, because now you can just have one cause enabled place to request images, you don't have to have 4 million different your domains, the jet request images from and they're all stand, they're all normalized. You don't have to worry about getting back a PDF. Yeah, no, it's great. It's exactly it's working exactly like what, when any that anyone can set up and then run themselves.
Yeah, he's published the code is open, aka beautiful. I want that on my own bro, too. I want all of it on my Umbral does not, this is not only not only Umbral friendly, no, yes, yeah, you have to you deploy it, you essentially you download it, you download the you clone the repo and then you put in your Cloudflare information and you deploy the code to your Cloudflare workers. And it will then begin to do your thing, because you set up a dumb a specific subdomain to
call that Cloudflare. worker and then that's how you interact with it. It's great, cool. It's great. But I mean, all these things are just, you're right. I think we've got a lot we have a lot of serious development going on recently. It feels really good. It does. Yeah, it does. It feels good to have a big a bunch of a bunch of good solid development going on. Yeah. During, in a in a mature project is not the early days anymore, you know,
mean things or we've been we've been here a while now. And so there's still big nice progress being made, which is it's a good feeling. It's good feel, shall we thank a few people. So we can Yeah, because we were playing around so much before we started the show talking about cars, which I apologize to the podcast listeners because it was good stuff. Tune in early. That's right when you want it when we go live. You want to be there. Let's he kick it off here with these are the live boosts
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is that the chosen vehicle? vixen TVs only if you have the vanity plate. MTV rocks are Oh X. Okay. By the way when I was at MTV, and I just had registered mtv.com I had mtv.com has a license plate that you get the DoD you throw it in with a sharpie Exactly. Martin Linda's code with a row of ducks soon talking with Mr. Palmer's talk listen to you guys later on. Oh, okay. The Tea Party media podcast. Thank you. We have Dred Scott. Pre boosting. You says 88,888. Go podcasting. Thank you. Very
nice. 1000 SATs. Gosh, sorry, by the way, Mike Newman. It gives a baller bass while ago. He is the maintainer of the team repo that keeps credit where credit is due. Oh, excellent. Excellent. Excellent. Where are we Sockeye? The horse with 1000 No, no, thank you. Thank you Sockeye. Boop, donation. No, that's not the sound that I'm looking at my my helipad, that's why I'm mixing it up here. I think that actually that was it. We had a no this is five hours ago. That's that's the delimiter
comics reblog. Okay, so over to you, Dave. Would you've got the pay pals the boost, and the monthlies. We have no paper towels, zero paper towels. We got monthlies, but we don't have any one. Oh, we are transitioning. We are we are off off the paper towels. I'm really happy because we we still have money. We can still pay the bills. So this is good. Thank you all. Thank you all very much.
I'm the I'm waiting to see how that's another reason I'm proceeding cautiously with the podcast with Nathan's podcast image repo code on one waiting to see how this impacts the bottom line. Yeah, on the Cloudflare thinks I don't looking at the pricing table. I feel pretty good about it. I don't think it's going to be a killer. What's our Cloudflare Bill these days? It's like Cloud sandbox. 7080 bucks.
Yes. $70 $75 Something like that. And then our Linode bill is around 500 Yeah, yes, it's it's I think it's I think it's Cloudflare is like 7070 bucks. I'm like that. I'll get Yeah, but we do have some bootcamps we got the 500 from in a millennial says love hearing from Mitch and love pod verse boosted through fountain for maximum irony. Yes, well done. Yes. Chimp sits as 97,531 SATs through. Nice is boosting from Miami, home of the FTX arena.
By the way, I saw in the new fountain there was like an activity stream on the homepage now. I saw you boosting a podcast with 200,000 SATs you baller you ball ball. You know what that you know what that did? To me? It made me subscribe to that podcast. Oh, I thought you're gonna say ashamed you into sin descending bigger booth. No, I didn't. I've never I don't know what podcast that was I just whatever it is. Then this, by the way is your podcast
discovery. This is your discovery. When I see when I see Dave Jones. liking something with 200,000 SATs. I'm like I'm gonna I'm gonna subscribe. I'll listen to it later. It's got to be good. That's a bunch of buddies of mine that do a Dungeons and Dragons podcast and they're like, it's funny. It's just so that's what that is. Okay, I'm gonna describe it was it was funny because because their their DNA. Their d&d campaign is set in Coleman at Coleman County, Alabama.
What's interesting now when I liked your comment, for some reason it was 420 shots. I think it does like a multiple of so you had I have my my minute Sats are always set to 200 SATs a minute. So because it was a two so I guess it because it was 200,000 SATs. It took that it added the 20 And it turned out to be 420 which I just thought was funny by itself. Whatever fountain is doing I like it you're taking my money and I'm feeling good about it. So well done.
What is looking at fountains charts here because I was because they just brought their podcast back because it had been gone for a while and I was like I'm gonna I'm gonna give him a big baller boost to try to get them up on the charts here. But I don't know how these things are calculated. So game the system, smoke and mirrors man smoke doesn't matter. I'm always happy when there's someone else on top because one of the shows I'm doing it's like, it makes it somebody else please.
That your modesty just some modest No, I don't really like leaderboards and charts. But you know, I'm not going to tell them not to put us on it. Because of course Tina gets a big kick out of seeing Corinne the keeper on the list this year. Okay, Martin Linda Skog. 2222 Row ducks he says Dave, did you get my late 2022 Booster gram of 123456 Satoshis Yes, the missing Oh, we found that we found the first one. Yes. Okay. Yes I did find it. And I printed it out. And it's upstairs.
Well done. Well done, sir. Okay, sir. Cool. Double make good next week. All right, you better write that down. I am. I'm ready to see. I'm gonna put it in the show notes myself. I'm a reminder hornsund is going to pop up for me. I really just know. This is the ultimate way to do value for value people. This is how you do it. Jean being 2222 through fountain he says regarding Mastodon and sidekick at NOVA at Hackett derm.io and team are looking at
the scalability and alternative solutions. Okay. All right. All right. Good luck, Nova. Yep. Je mean again 2222 through fountain he says, oh, yikes. I had no idea episode splits were not supported by pod verse. Well, they are. No no, no, no, no, no, those are not. That's not and that's a real problem. That's right. I'm on Buzzsprout and like most hosts, they direct me to the podcaster wallet right now. Well, Pa episode splits aren't on podcast or wallet either. So that's
why I thought you could do episode splits. I guess you can't do them on podcast a while only only show level. That's right. Yeah, grumble? Yeah, that is that is a groan because I really rely on this and I feel kind of bad because we have people listening on pod URLs to the list shows and and the await no agenda does do it at the show level. Okay. Yeah, you do. I think you do it whenever. I think you put it at the show level also each week like when there's a new person, right?
I know agenda Yes, but not on podcasting. 2.0 I just I've just always been doing it at the episode level. Yeah. Okay, there's Mitch. ALIX. Okay. Yes, he didn't last week. All right. Yeah, I'll revisit that at some point. I'll get I'll put it in the chat F 50,000. Sets. Do pod verse no note No, thank you very much. Just give me do a no chair. No man. Notice. Note. No Python booster. Gene been again 2222 says Dave, can you see no Dave You can change Mastodon to where all signups
have to be approved. Foster Don does it yes, we do this too. That's right. Three Three boosts from Gene F boost boost boost. Boost. James Cridland 1001 through fountain he says great episode super good to hear everyone pulling towards cross app comments in a way that can work for everyone go podcasting. Now last week's episode was great. It was very productive 1001 SATs you don't get to go podcasting in a movie boost by Central 77,777 Saturday's show the other day
Oh yeah. That's mega striper. That's an arena striper arena with a Keto is Yeah, I thought I thought last week's episode was great was great. When you have professionals on the show instead of those two Yahoo's things get done it you know, that's what I liked about the episode. I it was definitely not for everybody. But I agree that it was it was an you had done this on purpose and I liked it a lot you brought in the people who could actually cut through the crap and and figure it out.
And we made some I think we had some conclusions and that sparked good stuff with the people. It surely was a board meeting conversation. Yeah. I know when we need the charity to come in, give us in and give us some in whip us into shape. Yes, you do. You do. Appreciate Alex coming on. And Mitch both. Roland 1000 SATs he says I set up my V for V podcast with anchor LB and podcaster wallet. We'll go Roland. Good job dude. All right, buddy. Host Mike Dell
22 to 22 Big row ducks through pod verse. He says blueberry is podcasting. 2.0 certified. That's right. You are that's that's really big. And I'm really excited that the blueberry is John that tip. That leaves leaves only Lipson right, who are just slagging. What are you laughing at me? Why are you rapping? No, I'm a raffinate. Lipson. You know, curdling keeps hinting the funny that a podcast company will go bankrupt this year. And I can't help it. But I always hear Lipson,
my mind, they're not going back to I know who it is. You know who it is, how it's going, but I've got I've got my I've got my theory about who's going oh, you have a theory. Okay. All right. Yes, I can. I'm not going to hurt his feelings. No. Can we can we help them? No, no. Okay. All right. Done. All right. Mike Dell, I mean, hold on. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. You say we can help them? Whatever it is, someone's having a financial issue. I'm really good at helping people raise
money. And if it's if it's someone that, you know, that wants to be helped, I mean, I'm I just don't want to laugh it off. Is there any way we can help this company? I want to be clear that I don't I don't have inside information. I just know that. I just have my theory about because I've been thinking this for about six months already. That when with the economy, and we're starting to see we're starting to see layoffs. Not just layoffs on on big companies, but layoffs on
they're starting to hit the smaller companies too. Yeah. And and I think I think the next six to 12 months is going to be painful. For sure. Yeah. So I don't I don't know like no
anything. No, like No, no it but if it's the if it's the company that I've thought of for the last few months, no, no, there's no there's no turning moments to bad yeah, I will say if anyone needs help raising money or any kind of issues, we gladly he's here to help if we can always always, always happy to help And I'll say that I think that everybody would be better off if it actually happened. 204 anchor or anchor anchors are already safe.
Yeah, we need to get tied mike back on the show. I mean, they just been we gotta get an update from the horse's mouth. We got we got Oscar Murray coming up first, I think next week. Yeah. And then we're not sure when I can get Nathan on. It depends on him. And then I'll, we'll get we'll get Todd and Miko, excellent. Well, because now is the time that when people release something big, this is where we need to come on the
show. Let's talk about what's promoted. Hopefully, somewhere in the next few weeks, we'll also have Ibex will complete their lightning node. I mean, they have the invoice part and it goes because they they can pay you out in Bitcoin or in US dollars through your bank account, which is a big deal for a lot of people who who want to do it that way. And I said, targeting, you're targeting to one right, you're targeting to one? Yeah, I
mean, I literally just asked for an update today. It's like, you know, if, because, you know, if you get that done, then we'll promote it will help you. What if they say that they're gonna switch everything to web monetization? Well, it's not fair to try and tease me like that. That's to say bad things. Taking a grant from web. We're gonna change our business model. I love by the way that the economy is going to shit and it doesn't matter if we fire either of us. It doesn't save any money.
That's the good thing about being cheap. You don't have to worry about these job security. That's right. Yeah. Thank you, Mike. Appreciate that. Mike Dell again. 1500 SAS the fountain, he says, leaning out my fountain wallet. Okay, all right. I'm gonna be leaning out. Oh, boy Schonfeld look who showed up Hey, Roy 54 321 from breezy says go podcast. And we love that podcast. He is the only lightning related company LSP like company that has ever supported us. Never
seen anything from lightning labs or any of those guys. I mean, the Bitcoin the Bitcoin guys. They talk big but they never send any, any any SATs. No. And you know, and any one of them could send us a full coin. Yeah. Oh, we've gotten more SATs, excluding ROI. We've gotten more SATs from Brian and hive and we have from the Bitcoin table and look at the sink it Yeah, but look at all the app guys. Fountain supports us. Pod verse supports us. Several hosting
companies support us. rss.com Buzzsprout blueberry, you know, these. Thank you. Just thank you so much. Thank you for and when I say support, I mean you're returning value. That's really what you're doing. That's nice. It feels good. Oh, man. Molina's cooking something really good. Smell good. Friday, yeah, Friday, Friday. He's cooking at 220 in the afternoon. My girl My girl is fantastic, bro. I tell you. Is this a PA? You know, I I made her go through all of the apps doing
all of the sign up. She's so brave. She's so brave. She is great because you know, she is not afraid but she'll just like hey, I don't understand this stop stop the train. That's well, I mean that's, that's valuable information. I'm sorry. It's just I smelled this this meal. There's cooking like I got hypnotized. Anonymous 10,000 SATs Thank you anonymous. That was the partners interesting. Nomad Joe nomad. Joe since 2000 sets your founding sis, thanks for asset access to the board meeting.
Well, you're welcome. Come on anytime you want to donate to coffee on the counter. Yes, boosts came from busy brain centers. 10,000 SATs to founding says thank you guys for all you do to build what I personally think is a world changing protocol for the betterment of society. I feel honored to have the opportunity to listen in from afar. This will be the first of many boosts you'll likely see from me in the future much love from reading Bitcoin podcast. Oh, there's a Bitcoin guy.
There you go. Thank you Bitcoin guy. Busy brain. You just say you just did. And Dred Scott just dropped a 22,222 boost, bro a duck's boosting for the pew pew. Oh hey, Got a drum? We take requests? I love the pregnant PP Paul's Yes, good. Stephen B. Row sticks are a satchel of Richards is through the podcast index webpage. He says Kiwi browser mobile test boost. Look at Kiwi browser. Oh, I think that's something that Oh, kiwi browser runs on
Android and I believe you can load extensions. So yeah, and thank you. There's another app developer who is supporting us with value. Thank you very much, Steven B. Curio caster. Ha. Okay. Okay, I'll have to look into Kiwi browser. That's cool. That's cool. Roland sent us 1000 SATs through pod versus testing split payments with lb test successful Roland. Very good. The tone wrecker sent us 40,000 SATs through fountain Nene says
renewing annual scissor insurance. Please proceed. Just please proceed to commence running again. Careful now. Careful, careful careful, though. I just think I just got I got an eyebrow. Okay. Oh, and let's see we get trug true grits. Oh, true grits always struggle with this name. 6000 sets their fountain he says, I would like to see crosstab comments, especially for podcasts that don't use booster grams. I would like that to trigger it. Oh, and
before I forget, Oscar was working on some. We made a suggestion on the website and some thread we were on about the booster Graham's for podcasting 2.0 which are private, and so don't don't show up on fountain and he's working on a way for us to toggle it so that after we've done the live show, then they can be displayed, which I think is a great way to do it. So that that makes me really happy. So we still have the surprise
element. And and of course it'd be even better if we could if we wanted to not have one show up and it doesn't matter if we can turn them live after we've done the live show and gone through the donation segment. I love it. Beautiful idea. Cool. chat with him him about that next week. Commentary blogger the delimiter 33,015 says through fountain and he says dandy Dave and astute Adam. Get the scoop on what technocratic elites are preparing for humanity by
portioning out an episode of the AI dot cooking podcast. There in you will find multiple news items detailing growth in the field of Artificial Intelligence along with historical context and knowledge all explained by former crypto day trader and marijuana advocate glyph stay dangerous yo yo I just asked chat GPT which is AI what is the AI duck cooking podcast and who hosts it? I'm sorry I'm not aware of an AI duck cooking podcast. No that's correct.
It is likely a podcast with that name that does not exist or a new podcast my knowledge cut off is 2021 hour okay. Yeah, I think it did it started out is I don't know. Oh and listen to this now. Many podcasts are available for free through various platforms such as Spotify, Apple podcasts and SoundCloud. I say yay, you piece of shit. I'm sorry, your my previous answer does not meet your expectations as a language. Blah, blah. I'm very sorry.
No, cooking started in April, April 30 of 2021. So this thing's a piece of crap. Yeah, you can't hide behind your date cut off. All right, we got some monthlies pod verse $50. Thank you pod verse. Basil Philip $25 David Norman $25 A David. Lauren ball $24.20 Mitch Downey of pod verse also $10 Christopher
hyperbaric $10 Soren hugger Mahler. $5 Terry killer $5 Jeremy Kevin off $10 Chris Cowan $5 Jeffrey Rutherford $5 Paul Saltzman 2020 wants you always has the same I always have the same love him for that. Damon Kassar, Jack $15 and Derek J Vickery. $21. Great. I just, I just entered AI period cooking, which would be the correct to AI dot cooking. And here's what Chad GPT said I apologize for my previous confusion. Ai dot cooking is a podcast that focuses on the intersection of AI and culinary
arts. The podcast is hosted by sarin Soylu, who is a researcher and developer with a background in artificial intelligence, robotics and machine learning. The episodes focused on a wide range of topics such as the use of AI and recipe generation, kitchen automation and the future of food. The podcast is available on various platforms including Apple podcasts Spotify and SoundCloud This is bullcrap. That's not even true. This podcast doesn't exist.
I don't see AI cooking. I mean, that's supposed to take us to goofs thing, right? Yeah, yeah. The only a look up on podcast index AI. If I look up AI cooking Yeah, I get a I get CSBs podcast and I get some French thing that doesn't make any sense. That is incorrect. Yeah, it's cares. Is the podcast. Do the URL. Give it to it there. Okay. Ah yes, this is this is this is going to fail so bad. This is gonna I'm closing this out. This is annoying me. Make sure I never do that again.
Okay, please never do that. You'll never make it. Stick in your pile. Oh, please. I'm so sad. I even started this today. I apologize to everybody. I mean, I'm obsessed with how shitty it is. I think that's it. Yeah, it's like watching a train wreck. I want to do I want to discredit Yes. I want to discredit it all the time. As much as I can. You did scrolling This is the audio equivalent of okay. Are you got you got a full weekend of family time? You didn't do anything fun?
Yeah, this. This is the last day of of day job hell week where we do big software rollout us phone system upgrade, a sand a NET app sand storage firmware upgrade and onboard about 10 employees on same way. Wow. Did you also do the no tam upgrade? Wednesday? No, Tam, yeah. The notice to Airmen. What was that? It's not to give me the full and a skinny but give me the like, give me this thumbnail sketch what happened? You know what? The opening of of yesterday's no agenda is is half
an hour. And it's all about that, because you can't really do a thumbnail sketch. I'll just listen to there's too much. And I'm getting information now from, you know, from people really in the know. But let's put it this way. I've been a pilot for 16 years, this has never happened before. So it was definitely a software problem. Is that fair to say? In in, in so far that the software did not publish the information? It was supposed to? Who? That that's not good. That
doesn't mean that it was a problem. That could have just been a stop. Whole bunch of reasons I could have happened. Well, Alex, because he thinks his government problems. There was a lot of fighter jets and air tankers, though at the same time. So I don't know. Could just be coincidence, it could just be coincidence. Oh, I like him. But I like how you said, Oh, this thing went horribly wrong. It must have been David did that upgrade? Thanks a lot for that. I didn't mean it like that.
No, I forgive. In fact, in fact, your stuff is rock solid. The Freedom controller has been running for how many years now? Dave, I'm afraid I typed the word uptime because I don't even want to know it's scary. It's so awesome. How long this thing has been. It's been running. And I think the last time I had an issue was years ago. years ago. I'm gonna check the uptime on your server today. I bet you is like five years. Let me see. Freedom. I thought I had a
SSH into there. I do. I'm afraid to even SSH into it. I have a I have actually I have a think I have an alias too. So I don't have to remember all this stuff. It wasn't freedom controller. me it was cart. Oh, I know what it was SSH cart. There we go. Watch this. Oh, I'm so awesome. Okay, what's uptime? I mean uptime. Dude, 479 days. That's not as long as I thought it would be. Maybe it's free, but it may have been rebooted itself. Because I have not I
have not manually rebooted that server in about five years. So it's a must have happened. Maybe you maybe you got switched to a different anything could have happened at OBEDIA vs. EC two and maybe they moved you to a new host or something? Because anything it wouldn't be. Let me see the last time we went in. No, I mean, I think this has been up for years. You're right. That can't be right. Yeah, I've not made seriously I'm not manually rebooted that thing since like, you know,
why? Why would you? Yeah, it doesn't do any it doesn't need it. It just keeps on Dave shit works people. That's the bottom line. That's right. SAA here You did an upgrade. Okay, I don't know when some upgrade Oh, Ah, okay. Meanwhile, thank you all very much for boosting the dip recently because that was great for us. Oh, well you bleeps and bloops going on Yeah, that's a Windows Bitcoin now. 19,342 That's like 16,000 a day ago or something. It's crazy.
Yeah, what was your theory on that there's something they've found FTX money or something? JUST A THEORY $5 billion in FTX assets apparently were found big story on CNBC. So this is in the financial National Enquirer and it was a combination of cash and liquid assets and then they said but we're worried about and they literally said we're we're in this article I think I sent it to you we're worried about the the assets because the minute we start selling them flooding the
market it's going to kill that asset. So my thinking yeah, my thinking is that some kind of token shit coin or maybe a stable coin, which would be a real if it's a stable coin, it's
a real problem. Because that will affect the bond market Believe it or not, so my theory is that people had borrowed Bitcoin to buy this shit coin or stable coin whatever it is, and when they heard that too, like oh crap, we better cover our Bitcoin borrow because you know when you borrow it, you have to pay it back and the idea is well bitcoins going down this token is going up so I'll borrow the Bitcoin and then a certain point I'll have you know, I'll have Bitcoin will be going down
enough where I buy the actual Bitcoin and give back the bar Bitcoin that's a short and the token will have gone up so now the inverse is possibly happening so people are freaking out going, Oh, I better right away buy some bitcoin to cover the Bitcoin that I borrowed the day what started out as a hedge turned into a short squeeze.
Yeah, and actually the short squeeze that will really happen if they think if this goes to 20,500 Then you'll see something massive happen and it's interesting because I think the market itself today was predominantly down maybe went up while we're doing the show. So yeah, that tells you this some technical going on and it's not a Yeah, it's not just up you know, up with everything else up
type of deal. No, because I know the Dow Jones was down two or 300 it closed at 93 Up 93 Nasdaq closed up a little bit yeah, I like that theory. That sounds that sounds right. It definitely feels like a technical thing. Yeah, this is not just everyone going wow, Bitcoin. Oh, I've seen the light. No, I don't think I don't think that happens. Oh, my God. This is gonna save the world. No, probably not probably.
All right, bro. Brazil didn't Brazil passed some bridges nation for Brazil have a government at this point? Yeah, I have no tail. There's no tail. Yeah, I don't know. I've noticed that. I don't I don't think that moves the needle at all. I think this is okay. Yeah, you're right. Something technical. Something's going on. And well, never a boring moment in the Bitcoin game. Never a boring moment.
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