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I'm the Jason. Gotta love me. Oh, boy. Of course. Yeah, yeah. I'm ready for my close-up, Mr. DeVille. I thought you would have argued to say that. Oh, I should have. Like, I have it. I got it. I got it. I got it. There's your chance. Yeah. We were recording, so that could have been this dark. Oh, that's true. No, it is. Yeah, yeah. We're handling this business now. Well, if you'd like to, you don't have to. Oh, okay.
Well, why don't you introduce everyone? Oh, that's a good idea. All right. Hey, welcome to Podcast the Ride, the second gate. I can't think of how to start this. I don't know. I don't have a good dinosaur's idea. Scott Gardner is blanking. Mike Carlson. I don't know if there's a way to perfectly... Our brains are mush. Daddy's brains are mush. Do one of our hosts seem like they're one of the characters on Dinosaurs? I can't think. I don't know.
No, you're tall like the Sherman Helmsley triceratops. I don't know, Jason Sheridan? I'm the Jason, gotta love me. Whoa! He walks right into it. Man.
I had written down that I'm the baby, gotta love me, and not the mama. Very quickly, when I was very young, quickly entered the pantheon of... jason please stop like you gotta you gotta stop like that's really that's enough you gotta because i dinosaurs was very popular in my household you know i i have numerous memories of us all repeating these lines um the whole family the whole family and then i all right everyone let's say it three two one my memory is that i just kept pushing
Wow, interesting. Do not wake us up in the middle of the night screaming it. Jason, you're pushing it. Your favorite character in fiction, Baby Sinclair. You can't act like him anymore. You're too old to just poop in front of us. He loved it, though. So a big fan of Dinosaurs growing up, the early 90s ABC show with the involvement of Jim Henson and the Jim Henson Creature Shop. Did we all Watch the show Enjoy the show Jason Loves What are your feelings Mike It's I
I have complicated feelings about it because I was fascinated by it, but it creeped me out. And I watched episodes, but I really, I wanted to be into it more, but I couldn't. Yeah. In hindsight, it was something I wanted to love, but I had an odd feeling about it. It might have been because of the episode. There's the one episode where Robbie is trying to do a mating dance, and I knew that was sex, and that was bad.
thing to talk about. That's like maybe my strongest memory of watching it when I was little. So I don't know if that's made me be like, there's an episode about drugs too. It creeped me out. Well, I was not, for some reason I had drugs. We're not even, I wasn't worried about that. The main thing, the main thing I was like, this makes me uncomfortable is this mating dance episode. You didn't have,
the D.A.R.E. program but you had an in the household so but your parents didn't care if you you could skip that for all you want yeah we're giving you a personal stay off of sex program yeah yeah what was the what does D.A.R.E. stand for again I don't know. What does dare stand for?
If it was a better program, we'd know, right? I was just going to do a perfect joke with the sex. Young enough to do the program, not currently young enough to be buying the t-shirts, ironically, at Urban Outfitters. Drug abuse. resistance education. Well, it's not that funny if you put sex in there. No, it's not. You got to get the A out too. How am I going to do that?
Well, you got all episode. You don't even worry about contributing to the rest of it. You can just do your own project over there. I'm going to turn my mic off. No need. I will not be saying. It didn't make a click. Well, it kind of made a click. I think. my feelings about dinosaurs, I...
I certainly, I watched it all the time. There was, I feel like there was a time, and maybe some listeners will back me up. If you were of the right age, at least in my head, and it feels insane to say this now, but like... The big pillars of... kids entertainment with attitude if we're talking simpsons and we're talking ninja turtles yeah you know i i think dinosaurs right in there at the time i viewed it as yeah i like simpsons and i like
Ninja Turtles and I like dinosaurs. Wow, that's interesting. And there's a cool teen one and they look cool. And who are the coolest characters on TV? Probably Bart and Baby Sinclair. Oh, Baby Sinclair. What a star. Yeah. If you don't remember the show, I'm sure I won't synopsize it very well. But, you know, there was TGIF, of course, all the family sitcoms. But this was the only one where it wasn't.
humans these are creatures from the Jim Ensign creature shop with impeccable full body suits yeah and and robotic you know however whatever you want to call the faces and and it's a very in the like the most traditional family show where it's big schlubby husband and the wife who knows better and the teen boy is cool and likes to date and do mating dances of course and the teen girl likes to
shop I think probably is what I recall and then the very post Michelle Tanner scene stealing baby the catchphrases go to the baby yeah and grandma grandma Grandma sort of post-scolding girl. Grandma sassy. Uh-huh, uh-huh. Who's that voice? Was that... Oh, that's a good question. I don't remember. Was that a celebrity? I mean, the big one was Jessica Walter was the mother. Is that right? Yes. Yes. Way before Arrested Development. Yeah. Yeah.
And I'm so curious about the model. It's from Michael Jacobs, who created Boy Meets World. later so a very big 90s on abc what a resume wow yeah yeah indeed uh uh i think i'm wrong i don't think that is sally struthers is probably the biggest uh Charlene Sinclair. Yeah, yeah. Steve Whitmire is Robbie. Was he the voice, though? Oh, that's a good question. I'm not sure. No, no, he wasn't. You know what I always loved on the show was Earl's boss, who I just mentioned, Sherman Helmsley.
Yes. Hemsley? Hemsley. You know, the way his... Oh, it's not. Florence Stanley was the grandma. I'm still getting... Waste of time. Sorry. Pretend you didn't hear any of that. But I always liked him. Mr. Rich... and he would scream he was so hulking in that little office set yeah scream sinclair from that little window yeah and uh a legitimately terrifying looking character i think i was scared of the show
is kind of what I'm getting at. Because the show is scary. Like if I watch it now, I'm not scared of it, but I can see maybe in the same way that I was like afraid of earnest things, there was something like gross about it and frightful to me. They're all huge. They're terrible. I mean, like the puppetry is fantastic. Yeah, it's unbelievable. Much like Ninja Turtles movies and it's kind of the same technology. Yeah, it's still like it's still weird and analog and radio.
Oh, yeah. So those at some point, those mouths are going to contort into a really bizarre shape. Some of it is animatronics. I saw something that like for at the time, this might have been the most expensive half hour episodes. god oh man i did yeah i watched a making of which was pretty fascinating and they went straight to 13 episodes because to just do a pilot would have been seven million dollars for the one so like you know those costs are
spread out if you make a bunch of them. Kind of insane. They were that confident about something that could have just not worked. Yeah. Went straight to 13. I think there was two... things i think at play one this is like one of the very last things that like henson had a hand in developing jim henson had a hand developing the other i saw it mentioned that
the the immediate hit of the simpsons exactly as we're like i guess people will take a chance on something weirder oh and it looks different and yeah uh sure that isn't the same old multi-cam that we've owned but yeah yeah
Yeah, that's a big leap. And to do this, that kind of technology and these kind of suits on a TV scale, as opposed to movies, which is kind of the only place they'd been done and still like... sparingly you're looking at more per episode you got more suits than the Ninja Turtles movie I can't imagine what a nightmare this was to put together yeah like it must have like you hear the elf stories just of one generally one puppet just would
massive long shoot days actors just burned out the puppet didn't quite work this is a hand puppet yeah it's a small puppet can ultimately just pop up where it needs to be and like sometimes a guy in a suit but yeah Like this is everybody's wearing a dinosaur suit. Yeah. And public. Yeah. I can't imagine how long some of these shoot days were lineup of people with the like telemetric. Yes. Like, you know, the...
It's so impossible to describe with the little sleeve. It looks like an undressed kermit that you put your hands through. So you're still puppeting it like a sock puppet, but it's very advanced and radio controlled. So those signals are going.
into the face that's a few feet away so i might just turn the camera around besides even the set and how crazy it is and they're running steam through it and everything has to be custom built yeah and then you're now pan over here and here's like seven guys all controlling different radio mouths. And they made 65 of these. Yes, they're on Disney+. You can watch these.
And they kind of look like shit because it seems like they've ripped VHS tapes or like just really burned out Digibeta Masters. These, I think, yeah, whatever, like they did not remaster. We've talked about this before in Disney Plus. Some of the things look like, oh, they They made this look nice. And then some of the stuff, it's inconsistent with Disney afternoon stuff. Because sometimes I forget which show it was, but you'll watch a DuckTales or a Gummy Bears and you go, this looks like...
I taped it off TV 35 years ago. And then another show will be... Like kind of pristine quality in a way. It's random what looks good and what doesn't on that. Well, they can't all be the beautifully done Baywatch remastered. Truly maybe the best looking show.
Yeah, the remaster process. I don't know who financed this. I don't know if this is out of Hasselhoff's pocket, but they went back to the film masters. Wow. It looks stunning. It is bright and bold. You can tell that it was shot on film. It looks better.
then some movies that came out the same really it's an impeccable remake it makes it so watchable the only thing other i'm trying to think i'm sure they've done other shows but the only other ones they've done the Next Generation and the original Star Trek have been like remastered and they went in and cleaned up some visual effects and stuff, but...
And then we sold those on Blu-ray and DVD. So it's just Baywatch and those two? They just got to have the financing somewhere. Wow, interesting. When you're watching Seinfeld on stream, that's like they went back since that was shot on film, which was rare right that's really the issue i mean this show must have been where was it i don't know if this is a dinosaur video or film i feel like it's probably crappy video i mean as we're talking about this i i am thinking about
back to working in various like in media storage media vaults and how much people would just drop did you made it like just drop tapes or hdr like the master tape like just shit would get dropped or like accidentally or they would throw it accidentally um and then the original before he means himself oh i was pretty good i was actually pretty
Except with... Have you ever seen a quarter-inch... It looks like a... it's giant and it's like heavy and it kind of has a handle oh i guess people would like try it like put those on carts like that was yeah i know what you're talking about yeah digi beta like it went like
quarter-inch digibeta hdr like those were the stuff like the broadcast masters um and then some stuff you'd say i worked on the star trek remastering too at that company and they would because they and i was like i tracked all the like master Like film reels. and they were put them in a telecine bay to like redo the effects or redo timing and then you dropped all of them and then dropped the episode where data uh has sex you dropped on the floor
I was scandalized. Yeah. I assure you a lot of those canisters already looked like shit. Sure. Yeah. So do you think that all of the dinosaurs episodes were dropped before they were uploaded? I don't think stuff was well. Yeah. Like, this is not exactly like, you know, oh, they remastered all the Hitchcock movies. They remastered some Spielberg movies and stuff. No, the lesser film story, the lesser media remaster places, it's just like...
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Those devices, incidentally, when I was describing the like gray puppets that go to the turtles' faces, the dinosaurs' faces, in watching the behind the scenes, they're demonstrating one and they really quickly, casually call it a... Oh, wow. That must refer to Waldo C. Graftek, the CGI character from Muppet Vision 3D. And that's not a coincidence, but Waldo is named after the divine. Oh, right.
A labeled scientist named Waldo who got robotics to do what his body could no longer do. Really? That is some story from the 30s or 40s. Interesting. And that is why the device is a Waldo and why Waldo C graphic. Okay. D-A-D-Z.
Deep literary reference. Sure. That's interesting. If I ever read a book, I might know that. Muppets. I don't know the name of the book. I can't get you started with that. I don't care. No, no, no. If I've learned all I need to learn. Waldo first showed up in like an 80s show.
Like a different... Yeah, he was not at the first appearance, right? It was a different Henson thing. Yeah, yeah. So... Because I don't want to even say what the name might have... Was it called the Jim Henson Hour? If I get this wrong, we're getting big emails... Oh, no, yeah, you're right, you're right. ...with a lot of corrections...
And a number of them are from Griffin Newman. I'll edit this out. I'll edit this out. Because I don't want Griffin to text us about the correct... I don't want to... We're... Yeah. I think he was in the Jim Henson hour. You're not going to hear... Audience, you're not hearing this now because I've cut it out.
You're not hearing it. Stop. Don't hear it. You can't. If I forgot. If this is in, I forgot. I didn't even realize this is a Muppet show. We're making mistakes left and right. You're right. We're not even knowing it. We've made like 20 mistakes. Cancel the episode. Why did we get ourselves into this? Oh, no.
No, no. All right. Here is a fact that we know. Here's something that is notorious about dinosaurs. And it is the very bleak ending of the series. Where if you don't know, fun sitcom about dinosaur family hyenas.
jinx and then in the final episode the ice age is beginning and everybody is looking out a window pensive and scared about the forthcoming ice age saying i don't know i hope it turns out okay and then it's just a sad news reporters signing off and then the show never came back again this is so alph parallel there's so many parallels i feel like between alph two because alph ends on a really scary sad thing why are we murdering our puppets yeah and at the
They're both like three season shows, I believe, or maybe Elf's a little longer, but they're both kind of around the same length as far as, which means four maybe. Yeah. And they're like, they were like hits, but not Seinfeld. Like they couldn't last past. they're sort of like of the era. Yeah. And they could, yeah, they didn't have like longevity to get them over that, like syndicate five season syndication.
They are similar, aren't they? But yeah, they both have like really sad endings. Dinosaur ended at four and I... 94? No, Four Seasons. And I think it was plagued by moving nights, moving airing nights a lot. Oh, because it wasn't always on TGIF. I think it was sometimes, but that was prime real estate. They're kicking and trying. to like launch crappier shows in those slots but i don't remember following it for years and years like i don't
Like it came out of the gate hot and just slowly cooled, much like the earth cools around them. That's what I'm saying. When you go Bart, Michelangelo, Baby Sinclair, it seems weird now. because Bart and Michelangelo have thrived in various forms. I get it. I get what you're saying. I don't disagree with that because, again, I wanted to really like this and I would watch it.
But I was too big of a baby. I was too, I guess. It was scary to look at. And weird little, like, when they had creatures around, they were in the house just for them to eat. Yeah. And then they spoke in British accents. kind of like pleading not to... That bothered me. I'll say this. NECA showed off at Comic-Con last year that they are doing...
Baby Sinclair and Earl figures. Oh, wow. And they look fantastic. Uh-huh. And I'm probably going to buy them. Even though it doesn't take you back to some phantom. Well, it might, but I also have a Hellraiser, NECA Hellraiser toy. I have Pinhead in my office. So, NECA is how you face your fears. That's right. Yeah, Pinhead. I got the Xenomorph, too, which I was terrified of. NECA has so many things to show you. We're all...
beyond pleasure and pain, you know? Just like Pinhead himself. Oh, yes, yes. Is that a catchphrase? I think that's a catchphrase. Yeah, I think that's a recurring catchphrase. I would like you guys to watch Hellraiser 2 and see how far you can get. Oh, I tried Hellraiser 1 once and I didn't think boredom would be the problem with Hellraiser. Did you make it to the flesh tearing? No. Oh, wow. Hellraiser 1, yeah, I can see it's a little sleepy early on. But also, again, I've said it.
many times i fall asleep so oh yeah i'm fresh from it taking me three nights to finish the brendan fraser albert brooks vehicle the scout oh wow the scout three nights of the scout for me I would like to see if you could. The dense film that I could not, but my brain could not possibly handle. There's some scenes. I'm so tired. Oh, I'd love to see both of you guys make it through Hellraiser 2, though.
Because it's so gross. I heard the TV show, the Hulu show got pretty good reviews. I never watched that, yeah. But it feels too, that felt too like... nice to me interesting well that's beside the point not gross it felt like it wasn't gross because the first two hellraisers gross very gross that's a big part of it is seeing close-ups of skin tearing
If I could keep us on the point of gross. Yes. And we're going to start heading to, I think what we didn't say at the top. We did not say this. We did not. We're talking about any of this. There was a dinosaurs.
show, parade, combo of both, float, checked neither box in a way. Yeah. Yeah. There was a Disney MGM Studios attraction of some kind. It was on the map. But I'm starting, what I'm heading to, now is the Disney Company Association with this series and there's a very important piece of media with one of our favorites and I will play you this now. Eddie Sinclair, what are you doing in my chair? Number one. Baby Sinclair. Baby Sinclair pisses and shits in Michael Eisner's chair.
That's an affront to all of us. That's the most, that's a more important chair in the office. I'm mad about that actually. Now I'm not going to get that baby. Yeah. I probably saw that at the time and that may be uncomfortable. The disrespect. And the disrespect continues because I think in this clip he... By the way, what's the joke there? Number one and number two. And then he just makes a big effort face. We're watching a dinosaur baby take a dump. Walt would be horrified.
by that. Yeah, that's true. Well, he wears a diaper. Baby Sinclair has a little diaper on. Yeah, but Jason, look, as a father, as a daddy, you know, that pee and poop doesn't always stay in that diaper, my friend. Oh, sure. That can leak out. You can have what's called a blowout. I bet I think baby Sinclair is causing blowouts on purpose. I think so too. Yes. Baby Sinclair aware that if the, if there's enough propulsion.
with that that's coming out the diaper that's coming out the leg that's coming out the back he this character he comes out of the way he his egg cracks and then he's just talking and insulting earl in episode one so i i am sure he had very precise poop control yeah yeah so the joke here is that Michael is going to let him keep his chair
Because it's covered in feces and urine. Yeah, if he knows what's good for him, if he wants to try and litigate against the Screen Actors Guild, they'll tear him apart. So the second half of this, and this is yet more disrespect to our favorite Mr. Eisner. So here's the catchphrase in motion, which, you know, usually it's his father, Earl, in this position, but he smacks Eisner in the head with his very thick bottle. It's a sizable bottle. Yeah. But really the star.
of this entire sequence is what is coming which is some of the best Eisner acting I've ever heard I see stars actually one of the stars I see is Angela Lansbury She's singing the title song from our new animated film, Beauty and the Beast. Shameless plug. Shameless plug. I mean, that's a funny bit. Yeah. I'm seeing stars.
And one of the stars I'm seeing... no transition to the actual stars I'm seeing insane clown posse the hot new act on our Hollywood records label wow that's great one of the stars powder the star of a promising new film from promising producer Harvey Weinstein. Angela Lansbury. Power is not phenomenal. In her chilling role as Lawrence Harvey's mother in The Manchurian Candidate. Tonight on The Wonderful... world there is something michael seems again michael wants to perform
But also there seems like he was one take and he was out. And maybe that's wrong. Maybe he tried a lot because we obviously have seen outtakes. So we know he had to do other takes. Well, I think the rumor is that in an early 30 Rock where Jack Donaghy...
has to do like a litany. It's a really basic performance and he's there all day. Right. It's so, it's such a process to get it. And I think that is maybe based on Michael Eisner. Okay. I think, possibly. But he wants, like that's what, he has the interview show after doing this like he wants to be on camera
There was a desire for him to do that. And I wonder if he would just come on our podcast, if we could get to the root of this. If we can convey that we will not ask anything hard, it is going to be about his performance. This is essentially inside.
the actor's studio with this guy. We're just going to go. We're going to play clips. We're going to ask what he remembers about that day. Yeah, right. Was it an honor to work with Baby Sinclair? Right. You got to... He performed with... How many people on this earth got to perform with jim henson doing kermit the frog not that many i mean the positions he was in or frank gauze doing fozzy yeah i know truly he got like uh you know the astounding experiences that's what i
want to ask about right yes we want to give him the biggest softball interview of all time the softest ball we are we will roll it softly to him or the ball doesn't have to go anywhere if he says something like you know and uh you know we're a little disappointed in how California Ventures started out and we're like no sir no it was great don't don't put yourself down like that it was great leave that to there's a guy named Kevin Perger leave the leave the shit talk
talking of you to him. We'll give you his info if you want to deal with him. We don't want to hear that. But... I just felt like there was some problem. You know, some of the films were... No, the films! What? Are you kidding me? We love the film. It was all perfect. Have you revisited Jungle to Jungle lately? It holds up. Jungle to Jungle. It's better than the original. The French movie. The French movie with Gerard Depardieu, I think. Maybe. All your French movies were better.
than the three men and a baby. Oh, man. If Gryffindorff's tribe was based on a French movie, I'm sure it was better than that. Yeah. He shows up. I was watching some interview with Leonard Nimoy and Shatner and some Star Trek, and they're, of course, talking about...
Star Trek coming back in the movies and they have talking about Eisner because he was a Paramount back then. Oh yeah. He was a big part of that. So he factored into why I was on Ram Perez's podcast. Mama needs a movie. And we talked about mommy dearest. They should really talk about dinosaurs with not the mama. Right, yeah. But Meisner had to greenlight that film. Mommy Dearest was given to us essentially by Michael Eisner. Wow. Thank you, sir.
Thank you. Thank you. Come here so we can thank you. We just want to thank you. Come to the garage. I just want to thank you for giving us the best parks of our lives. We'll sing that song. Not with the Stan lyrics. They're mean and dark. The good ones, yeah. Okay, to start getting us into...
The Disney MGM studios. I would like to show you guys this photograph. This was going around recently on, on Twitter. I feel like somebody just kind of, I mean, in, in illustrating the vibe of Disney MGM studios in those. early years.
And this really does tell you just the like collision of pop culture that we are looking. Here's a group photo in front of the studio gate. And in this photo, the Ninja Turtles with April O'Neil, Roger Rabbit, Beauty and... and the Beast, a bunch of Star Wars Chewbacca, C-3PO, and a couple Ewoks, Little Mermaid and Eric, Indiana Jones, and then the dinosaurs. I, like...
I mean, that they fit in this group that I would never would have questioned that, seeing that at this age. Of course, of course they're in there. They're icons, and they always will be. But in general, also, you talk about great stuff Eisner gave us. Yeah.
I mean, this does like, I, Aaron is sometimes like, I don't understand this park. It's kind of a hodgepodge. I don't really. And I'm like, I think you had to be there. There was a time first couple of years, this photo tells you everything you need. That's what's missing from the park and it'll never be back you know we talk a lot about sort of that Epcot feeling that's gone that will never come back
And we have talked about this a little bit, but maybe I feel like maybe we haven't underlined it. And this photo is the perfect representation of being a little kid. And when this park was new and feeling like this chaotic photo of all these characters. Yeah. was the magic of Disney's MGM Studios. On a personal note, also, like my early vacation, I had wonderful vacations with my family always, but they were often driven by like a...
golf and my dad wanting to golf and golf resorts. So I would always have fun as a kid, but, but I would find myself like, this is kind of a dry place to be. Sure. I mean, I'll make do, but it's a little, so there'd be vacations where like, okay, they have a pool. I guess that's good. Okay. I'm sorry, where's the next vacation taking us? A place where the Ninja Turtles and the dinosaurs and Chewbacca. Why do we ever go anywhere but here? I completely feel that looking at this.
No, and that's what, that's missing now from that place. Yeah. It's like, I guess, whoa, like.
You want to see the Mysterious Benedict Society. You want to see Will Trent. You want to see them all in one place. I want to see the modern family. I want to see them at Disney's Hollywood Studios. That's right. Yeah, they're nowhere to be found. The modern family are not... not there there should be they own every character this is a mere fraction of what they own today it's not the big silly mismatchy pile and then of course a couple of characters who they don't own and I'm not
sure why they're there right that's an important part of it too well that was uh uh you talk about that and i think the the characters they didn't own like turtles and stuff being in there that made it more As a kid, I was like, it's all here. Everyone's here. All of my favorites are here. Yes, and new stuff. That's the important part of it. Stuff that's just open or just come out or going to come out. It wasn't just classic characters. It was stuff that felt new and relevant.
And they were all there. All the friends were there. And again, outside of like Marvel with new stuff from the shows popping up, it's like there's not... That's probably how you feel now if you're like, you know, if you're very into every Marvel show. Yeah, but it's still, it's within the universe. You're not seeing this fun mashup of turning the corner. Nowhere to be found in the... parks is the character on Obi-Wan played by flea.
Where has he been? I haven't seen him anywhere. Vect No Crew. Where's Vect No Crew? I wish. I feel disgraced that I didn't know Vex. His name. I did have to look it up. I saw the show. But I'll never forget it now. Vex, yeah. Vex No Crew and his famous modern shirt and modern jacket and no signifiers that he's anything but regular flea. Vex No Crew. park presence we're like yeah so so that yeah seeing this and then watching the video of the dinosaurs and it's like
It would be interesting. Obviously, there was, I don't know, it feels more fun back then, the newer characters, but what a version of that now would be if you were a kid. I guess Bluey would be there. Bluey, the Na'vi, all the Avengers. That's good. Right. And it would be like cheaper looking Avengers. It wouldn't be like recreations of the clothes. It would be like the Avengers. They look a little goofy. There's somebody blue.
glue and like just their shoes are a little bit like have a lift in them but they're not that tall and that's comforting if you're a nervous child it's comforting that they look a little shit if it looks too good the events of the movie might break out around you right and then uh Grey's Anatomy characters are also there. Oh, yeah. Right? That's on ABC, I think. Yep. That's still running. Modern Family's over, so I guess it wouldn't be the Modern Family. But, yeah, that's... Black-ish.
Yes, there you go. And I haven't watched... television forever apparently so i can't remember any other shows is abbott elementary on i think it's on abc streaming on hbo max well i can't talk about i can't get into that now that's too confusing but yeah um i want guillermo from
Jimmy Kimmel. I want to walk around Guillermo. What about that? Yes. They should do that, actually. Honestly, they should. They should. There should be some sort of Kimmel presence in the Disney and Hollywood studios because that's their talk show guy. They have. They finally have. Oh, God. Yeah. Why have they?
How have they not made him host some bad attraction? Yeah, there's so many things in the past where they would have an ABC Drew Carey or whatever. They had David Letterman in the pre-show of that sound show. Yeah, they've had all the characters. They've had Steven Weber.
host something i mean they've had so many different stars that have been on the show yeah um the dinosaur parade that becomes a street show uh ran uh from September 1991 to August 1992 which I say because I was there in November 1991 and definitely was very thrilled to see like the hit dinosaur this was like a big trip where it's like
my family and my grandparents and we all stayed at the Polynesian. This was an exciting trip. Like, uh, and probably I, I was like watching a few, you know, uh, versions of this show. And I was like, oh, my God, is this imprinted in my head like some earliest memories? Because I think as they're coming down, like musical memories, as they're coming down Hollywood Boulevard, I think it's like an uptempo instrumental version of I Got.
got rhythm, which is a standard that like Ella Fitzgerald sang. Gene Kelly did it in an American got Paris. Okay. And then in front of Graham and Chinese theater, they do, uh, Was it Walk the Dinosaur? The hit song Walk the Dinosaur? The hit song Walk the Dinosaur. I guess that is a recent song for then. Because when's that song? That's from like 89 maybe. 89 in America.
um and in america only i know it was released in europe like yeah i don't know um just joking but like that song just has stuck with me for like every now and then i'll just come into my head and like i had to remind myself getting ready for this episode i was like was that for the show no it was a single it was a hit single by was not was yeah yeah um well we're now we're
here we're in don was territory oh man i'm excited is it a five-timers that i said i saw him at a concert once i don't remember i feel like just his name being said is a five-timer i believe i saw him at a wilco show show he was in the lobby and i go oh my god it's done now how many listeners know who this is i don't know well he wrote this song he wrote to walk the dinosaur which is the the basis of this this dinosaur show
And he produced my favorite Barenaked Ladies album, which I'm sure I've said this before on the show. Yes. Is that why you care about Don Walsh? That's certainly the first time I heard about him. But then once I learned he's like kind of a character, an ancillary character in Ryan.
It's not ancillary. I don't want to diminish his contributions. Well, and that thing we talk about where the aging rockers look progressively more insane with all of their distractions and dyed black hair that you know is not right. And how are we styling the hair?
and how many layers are we wearing? How many hats and how many scarves? All of Depp's moves. Don was one of the craziest looking... yeah and that's there is yeah insane that's probably why i was like who's that oh i like that's why i recognized him i think yeah at the time because he is very unique or specific looking i guess yeah did you know little steve
even from the E street band there on tour. He, I think a couple of concerts go dressed in full pirate outfit, full big pirate hat, full big coat. I'm amazing. That hadn't happened. I know. Right. Yeah. He's like, halfway there at those bandanas on his head you know but yeah he posted a photo of it and I'm like yeah why not I this song
Walk the Dinosaur. I feel like it's kind of in that lane with Hot, Hot, Hot, where it's as much of a recent hit song as Disney is willing to use. And it's almost impressive that they were doing any... yeah music from within the decade but the song itself i have always struggled with really i don't yeah do you Do you like walk the dinosaur? I think I like it. Yeah, no, I like it, but I don't like love. I'm not going to.
throw myself i'm not gonna like protect it like any of the songs on barenaked ladies maroon but yeah i think i like it i think it's just such a like It's a song for babies. It makes sense they use it in the theme parks. Yeah, it makes sense that I loved it at six years old. The only thing that imprinted more was the Gloria Estefan and the Miami Salmon machine song uh conga
Cause that was played all over the parks. I feel like, and was like in, I think was done for the Caribbean beach open. It was in a parade or was in some Disney show where like all the characters are on the beach. Okay. Huh? So they'd grab sort of recent. Yeah. There were three songs. Yeah. They were. They felt comfortable with. Yeah. I. Well, look, if you this show, if you haven't seen a video of what we're describing, it.
pretty much hinges on your enjoyment of Walk the Dinosaur because it is played for about 10 straight minutes. You better be into... And the chorus specifically. I hope you only... kind of like the verses in the bridge book or the pre-chorus or whatever, because you will hear, Oh, it is the show. I'm going to let me cliff notes version of the show.
without getting into the character dynamics and why they're there. There is a big double-decker bus. Most of the dinosaurs are on top. The grandma is on the bottom. The bus takes a long time to come from backstage to in front of
the Chinese theater. Once it arrives, there is a performance of a lyrically modified walk the dinosaur then the same long path is taken for the bus to get out of there and go backstage and the chorus of walk the dinosaur is played the entire time Um, we just gave a lot of praise to like the early five of this park. I'm watching a video of this. I'm like, I don't know how I feel about this. The idea, you know, what I like is the picture. I like the picture. This show seems a little trying to me.
jason would know i didn't see it live i don't think i did you believe you did you did though i i think you did i think i did i would have been there i'm sure someone would have looked at a map and went Oh, the dinosaurs. We watched that show. Yeah, let's see what that is. You made one of your relatives sound very dumb.
The dinosaurs. We watched that show. I'm just trying to imagine the synopsis, you know? I'm just trying to give... Me watch that. Me watch that. We go now. Oh, the kids will like this. The kids will like this.
um it was a tribute to the show yeah right uh yeah i'm sure i'm sure i would have seen i mean like all of this stuff that we like i mean this park the the selling point of this park it all worked on me like for like young kids like oh all those cartoons all the abc shows they're all here yeah Yeah, this show, it's not nearly as good as the Ace Ventura Hollywood Studios show. Oh, I disagree with that. I thought that was dog shit. Yeah, a lot.
I don't like the Ace Ventura show, but I think there's more of what you would want from Ace Ventura in that show. He repels down a building. There's some animal antics. I'm not saying this is one of the greatest theme parks as Ventura is, but I think that you get more of what you would want from that show. It's a little longer. There were different versions of it. This is like a dressed up parade float.
Yeah, it is. It's like a brief parade. But you know what? You get those suits. You get weird, creepy versions of the dinosaur. I know I just said I didn't feel great about this show, but you just brought up what I think is one of the worst things we've ever talked about. The Ace Venture.
I thought that show was terrible. Well, I'm not going to defend the show is not being terrible, but I do think it's better than this. Jason. Well, I know. I think this delivers on the product. Like the suits look pretty close to the.
You know, TV show suits. There's not much of it. And they're kind of far away. I guess you could get close and they would look cool. Baby Sinclair says, not the mama. Like, it's everything you want. Yeah, there's quips. There's quips. And it's a puppet. He's being done puppet-wise.
then there's suits and they dance you get a big I think just the scale you get it's puppets it's suits it's a big bus you've just swung me back that's how much I hated that Ace Ventura show I turned it right around I feel like that was a show because we're we were like deep pandemic and I, we finished that and I'm like, there's a miserable time. And we just talked about a miserable show. We gotta, we gotta cheer up.
It's a bad show, but I do think it fulfills the promise of an Ace Ventura show. I don't know. Here's the difference, though. I don't want an Ace Ventura show. I want a dinosaur show. I'll settle for one that I just a few minutes ago said I didn't think was good. It still gives me joy more than this kind of slow crawl down a rope and there's one bird in a window. I really hate it.
There's a toilet joke in that Ace Ventura show. I didn't like that. Okay. You shouldn't have either. All right. This show has also, I said it at the top, but, uh, Babies and Claire says, I'm ready for my closeup. Mr. DeMille, uh, It's a Sunset Boulevard joke in a Hollywood theme park. uh and and the crowd i say i bring that up because it it gets a big response you can hear people laughing in like the home movie copies
of this show. How many people do you think? I don't know. No, it seems like it plays really well. It seems like a... Well, the baby would play well. I don't doubt. I don't know what you're saying. Yeah, the baby would play well. And so, that's also a phrase that I was saying for years. Oh, really? I'm ready for my clothes?
and also i watched i watched so annoying it is very annoying like your parents stop saying it and i watched sunset boulevard at like 11 or 12 you know i stayed inside on a summer day because i was like turner classic movies is showing sunset boulevard next and uh the line you is actually the other way around mr demille i'm ready for my close-up but one of those remembered it's like a
Luke, I am your father. Beam me up, Scotty. That's not what he said. It isn't? No. Did he never say that? I don't believe he ever said beam me up, Scotty. That's really? Yeah. Wow. Yeah. People said that to me my whole life. Oh, really? Of course, yes. Oh, yeah. How can we bother this guy named Scott by saying that? And it did bother you. Yeah. I'm like, what am I supposed to say that? I have no response to this.
Play it again, Sam. Probably the most famous one. He doesn't say play it again, Sam. Ingrid Bergman says play it, play as time goes by. Beam me up, Scotty. Catchphrase a misquotation that made its way into popular culture. Wow. You should have just thrown that in people's face. Actually, that would have really gone over well. Excuse me. I would like to correct you on the phrase you're using. That was never said, so it's irrelevant. Think of something else to say to me.
uh i this this seems like i don't know how we've gone this long without talking about this this is with all the movie studio theme parks out there i think i'm ready for my close-up mr demille is a tent pole how many times when you think about it i couldn't tell you where but like don't you hear i like i feel like i've probably heard that
A hundred times. Oh, yeah. I don't even know in what. I didn't like any of them. Yeah. But that's such a... And it's still said this long after Sunset Boulevard. This long after anybody really knowing what mr demille did yeah yes i think that's probably like i'm bugs bunny is i feel like he has said it many times i could be wrong oh sure um yeah i would i would believe almost any character said that
at one point did michelangelo say that in the original animated tv show ninja turtle show probably i don't know of a similar piece uh you mentioned movie Studio based theme parks. This is a thing I love in movie studio theme parks. The fake camera truck. There was a fake camera truck driving ahead of the parade float. You can still see the fake camera rig at the Indiana Jones stunt show.
Oh, that's the same one in the early days. Yeah, it's still an ancient, like, film reel camera. We don't, yeah, ignore that, like, you can film... car see moving scenes with little cameras yeah with like phones and there's also the more you think about that stunt show you're like wait i has anyone mentioned the phrase steven spielberg or george lucas steven spielberg might be said at some point
but you concerns that they aren't using their net credit in the name. I feel like it doesn't come up. You mean like, cause you're shooting the movie. They're shooting the movie. So you think somebody should be playing Spielberg in the Indiana Jones stunt show? Yeah, in theory, because they're shooting in rapid sequence all the set pieces of the movie. Who's in the Fablemans? Who's...
Do you have that kid? He's the kid. When he gets older. There's a Psy Fableman, but I don't remember if that's the kid. Oh, I can't remember. All I got in my head is Vectnokru. Vectnokru is the most important name to know after this episode. But that's an interesting point. Yeah, I mean, Spielberg, though, probably with the Universal Association, he can't be represented in a Disney park. Sammy Fableman. Sammy Fableman. You're thinking of Cy Abelman from A Serious Man.
Oh, you're right. I don't think there is a Cy Fableman. Cy Abelman is that great character from, he goes, we're going to be fine. We're going to be fine. You're going to be fine. We're going to be fine. Whatever. Cy Abelman is not Cy Fable. There is no such thing as Cy Fable. Cy Fableman is really good. I wonder if somebody...
Cy Abelman. I, let me, okay. I described the parade route, but now let me say the premise of the show. The premise of the show is every day at Disney MGM studios, there is a event called surprise. family of the day.
that's all that always happens it's probably mostly regular families yeah be yours on a different day but today it's the Sinclair family who are dinosaurs and who are as acknowledged in the show from the hit series Dinosaurs so they are alive today happen to be vacationing in Disney MGM Studios have become the stars of a show that would not normally star them right yet there is an original song that they sing about
being dinosaurs and about the show having picked dinosaurs that is ready to go the music is loaded up and on all the park loudspeakers this is also being filmed it's a movie studio park this is important I don't know how they're alive today. And at the end, they say... And that's a wrap.
How many premises did I just say? Four? It seems like four. We've got a lot going on here. A lot going on. And like two, yeah. They could have just been family of the day and there's the dinosaurs and who cares? Or don't do, why is it family of the day? Or what if it's here's the dinosaurs?
dinosaurs everyone so here's the dinosaurs is fine and they sing a song and then he baby Sinclair says something and he leaves the dinosaurs are here today could have been the name of it I think that's right yeah I would have accepted that Yes. Instead, we got a lot of competing premises and I don't know why they're around. I saw them die.
I watched... Hey, they were thriving when this Seabark show was going on. Yeah, yeah, that's true. They're bouncing around the meet season schedule. These are... We need to make a note. If we ever talk to one of these... Older Imagineers again. Tony back to Joe Rory or something. We have to ask about stuff like this. Yeah. did this ever come across your desk who would have decided on the premise for the dinosaur float attraction
That would like pop in and out. Did you, did you even, were you even aware of it? This is a different department. Like I have so many questions about this type of entertainment in the parks. Little nitty gritty. Cause you never hear anything about. Ace Ventura show or this show. I think Bob Weiss was a big part of this, getting this park open and running. Great idea. This is a great question for him. Yes. All right.
So we'll get this major Imagineering figure. And not ask any of the big stuff. And we will talk to him about the dinosaurs show. Do we even know the name of it? I guess we'll have to by the time this comes out. Is it called Dinosaurs Live? What is the YouTube called? I don't know.
I believe it was called Dinosaurs Live. There's a few ones. Yeah, there's... It's not something that is... it is dinosaurs live exclamation point don't forget the exclamation point yeah because it's exciting um yeah also you can't google it because you search dinosaurs live and it's all these current things with jurassic world Oh, man. No footprint for this. It's all like insane money laundering schemes to like fill anchor stores and dying malls.
Oh, yeah. Oh, I loved dinosaurs in whatever mall that was in the south. Oh, yeah. A lot of dinosaur stuff popping up. Dinosaurs live. Listener, I'm sorry I didn't know the name of it and you're this deep into an episode. You know how these things go. You're not going to look at the video anyway. If you're listening, I mean, maybe you will. Maybe you've pulled it up at this point, but...
It's not, there's not much. One of them posted by the guy we know. Yes, that's right. By Ian. Yeah. What's his last name? Rick Abani. Rick Abani. That's right. He posted his old movie on the show. Yeah, yeah. And one of them, I'm looking at a video and like, wait a minute yes he posted it i have not asked him about it thanks for posting it it was very helpful very good quality home movies like yes yeah good rip better transfer in these sorry ass transfer houses everybody's slipping on
the tapes yeah and everyone but jason is clanging them around tossing them out the window spilling hot soup on beloved episodes of next generation Look, the staff of a lot of these post houses, you know, the lower rungs at some of these places, it's a mix of recent college graduates thankful for any job during a recession time.
and a lot of burnouts oh boy a lot of burnouts Jason's calling you out yeah calling the burnouts out I was trying to think like what do I want from dinosaurs from a cheapish thing that you could pop up in a park like this like what do i want from it and i think i want really what i want is some sort of a room that you can walk in and they're just in there
yes you can see them for a little bit i'd rather do a meet and greet for sure yeah either even if i don't get to like take a picture with them just getting to be in like a weird stone age kind of room and just see them, I think it could be 45 seconds, and that's going to give me what I want, closer to what I want. Even if somebody's really mean when the 45 seconds is up? Yeah, if somebody really ushers me out, and I get in trouble if I stay too long.
Yeah, I think that would be... You're in trouble. Tell your mom. Okay. I'll know if you don't tell her. I do have, because I think I was there in like 91 and 92. I have pictures with a walk around beast. Okay. A giant walk around beast, uh, pictures with the Ninja Turtles. It was thrilling to meet the stars of stage and screen. But I feel like there was a, I don't, I, I, Maybe this is a thing in general where it's like bringing stuff that's really current. They're not going to build any tickets.
when something's new it's a tv show especially it's got a really now we got like guardians is kind of almost a fluke i feel like because that would that's fairly new as far as no and it came together fast yeah um but it's like there should be space for current stuff in the parks to set up like a little maze or a little meet and greet that looks thematically like it. Well, that's what Disney Mickey's...
Starland was yes that was a space for like little kind of themed facades where you could meet the Disney afternoon character and they could slide those in and out so that did fulfill and at the time where we needed a the most of course he really wanted to meet dark winged duck yes uh so because you can get otter stuff if it's not you don't have to build something elaborate but
I want to, yeah, I want to go in like Earl's boss's office. And I think they could do that. That wouldn't be too expensive.
Yeah. You don't have to have his boss in there. Did they just have the bus already? Is that why they're on a bus? Yeah, for sure. Definitely. That was repurposed for something else. And maybe that's why the family of the day theme, because if it's like the dinosaurs parade then you expect it to look like rocks but this is the way they can get away with they're just on a like a iron
Yeah, it is. An old double decker from Magic Kingdom. Definitely from a parade of Magic Kingdom, right? Yeah, I think so. That was my first thought when I saw it. Yeah. Yeah. But they would do more parades at MGM Studios in the early days. So I got to. go now i want to look up pictures and see like okay the dinosaurs are off aladdin and friends are on yeah hercules and friends are on there was definitely a hercules like victory parade i feel like yeah it was at disneyland
Weird way to phrase it, but... Victory parade. It's something like that of celebration or... That was good, though. That was, like, very... That was pretty heavily... I think a lot of new stuff at that. As opposed to just throwing the dinosaur. But is this not... I kind of hadn't put it together. It's recent characters from TV, not film. Right. And you don't get too close to them, but they're up on a second story and they wave at you. This is Avengers Campus. Oh, very good.
invented Avengers. Oh, you're right. There's a little balcony and the new characters wave at you. Yeah. Yeah. yeah and they do a little show up there uh-huh now do i wish that uh the hawkeye and uh uh i can't name any more of hawkeye and thor are dancing to walk the dinosaur of
Of course. Oh, yeah. Oh, if that big Hulk, if big helmet Hulk had done walk like the dinosaur. Wow. The thing they announced, which is the joke from Hawkeye, the musical thing in the old Frozen and the old Aladdin theater. Right. Rogers. Yeah. Rogers, a musical, which is a kind of a parody of, we're talking about Mark Shaman again here. Yeah. A parody of musicals. It's.
It's close to what I want with characters dancing to the dinosaur, do whatever, walk the dinosaur. You think so? You think it'll be like as silly as that? Well, the show is, it's a big over the top musical of like how the battle and the first of Avengers went okay and it's very like like silly and then Broadway style like and the joke is Hawkeye hates it
yeah he's like oh that's funny the joke is Hawkeye is like this is annoying to me how over the top this is and like Hulk and like he looks just like Broadway man dressed as Hulk and stuff I think Hawkeye is honestly my favorite of all the Disney plus Marvel shows But that's close to having some fun. Well, I give them that credit because we really just want, what I really want is a hyperspace hoopla with the Marvel characters. When the lights go down, I want them twerking to new music.
But this is pretty close to having some fun. I will give them that. And it's got to be like, it's not, they have to make new stuff for it unless it's only going to be like a five minute show. No, I think it's long. Right. I think it's going to be longer. So I'm saying they have to write new stuff. So we'll see what it is. Maybe they'll go sincere, which I hope they don't. Yeah. They need to. I mean, well, this is a good. This is a step in the right direction. And as somebody who was not.
blown away by a film called The Eternals. Okay. Somebody who, let's say, didn't understand for one millisecond what I was watching or why anyone would find any of this interesting. I might change my tune a little bit if they got into some musical mischief. If Kingo is singing, you know, it's possible. If Kingo's sing goes, that's the show.
That's the show. That's the show. He's not even on Kingo's singles. Maybe that'll be the other characters from the other movies. Then they can make up new song. I am the Kingo of wishful thinking. See, that's, yeah, that's what I want. I want like parody, Marvel parody songs. I refuse to give in to Thanos. That's not how it's gonna be. Yeah. So, yeah.
Okay. Imagine hyperspace hoopla. Yeah. We talked about this. If listeners, if you go, go back, this is on a Patreon where Star Wars characters would twerk to new, like newer songs. and then you know like beat it or something beat it you know something newer i say new i mean last 40 years oh mickey dances don't they all come out and dance to gangham style of course of course jason we're joking yeah
It's a perfect piece of work, yes. But imagine hyperspace hoopla and then like they wheel baby Sinclair out at the end. I mean, that's fantastic. Sorry, wait, I'm lost. Is this Hyperspace Hoopla or is this Marvel Hyperspace Hoopla? What show are you describing? In what year? Are you saying Carly? You guys are giving me Too many options for what I meant. Oh, you're like grabbing the side of your face because you're smiling so big. Okay. So...
i'm just gonna pick an arbitrary year to make it seem like i knew what i was pitching you say it's the year 2023 and it's this year hollywood studios and they're doing hyperspace hoopla again So it's Star Wars. Well, Star Wars up until this point. And the big thing at the Hyperspace Hoopla was at the end, Mickey came out and everyone lost their shit. Revolutionary, utterly unpredictable. Even more...
The perfect moment of surprise in fiction. The audience was so excited about it, even more than the... baby Sinclair doing the sunset Boulevard line. Um, and baby Sinclair comes out and, uh, uh, a Dua Lipa song plays and then baby Sinclair, uh, twerks. Like, that would be...
That would be fantastic. Well, again, as somebody who bristled at the notion that Mickey coming out at the end of a show at Disney World was that surprising. Now, Baby Sinclair doing it? So you agree? Now I'm surprised. That comes out of nowhere. I don't even know if that gets a huge response just due to the confusion and the build-up at the end.
and his baby is in a suit i guess it's a suited character well okay i think he's in the high chair but he like rotates and he's kind of like bouncing it works i think yeah It looks like the chair is kind of like hopping forward. They had to develop a stuntronic for this. Once we got the flying Spider-Man out of the way, now we need a realistic baby Sinclair that can make his entire high chair twerk.
get showing Zoomers a dinosaur sitcom going on TikTok? Oh, okay. Someone... you're saying that should be a new trend storm i have seen i have seen this trend on things where yeah it's just a little video and you show young people stuff maybe from the past there's a lot of videos of like young people listening to classic music that we've watched over the years and then like it'll be like you've seen these yeah like you feel in the air tonight or something or bohemian rhapsody whoa and they have
They're performing a bit. They're performing a bit, but it's kind of interesting. So you're saying you want this trend with ABCs. I would have not the mama on the baby gotta love me. So like people would just say that back then? Yeah. So this is what people looked like in the 90s. Jason, is there any video of you saying the phrases? Do you think there's any VHS? Oh, I don't know. I feel like we were late to get the video camera and you'd think it was like a priceless Fabergé egg.
the way my brother and I were not allowed to touch it. Oh, okay. I did not get a Fableman's time until much later. How old are you? I had a feeling you'd be bad at working with media stories. And they knew you'd drop it. All right. All right, okay, so.
I was pretty good. Wait, what's your brother's name? I got a degree in media production, and it's storage and preservation. Look. Okay, so, all right. I'm going to say action, and then you say, I'm ready for my close-up, Mr. DeMille. Okay, in three, two. Oh, God. Oh, the camera exploded in my hands. Well, I think we did it. I mean, hey. It's fun to watch a video of this show. Is this the greatest...
that the theme park entertainment ever put on? No. Possibly not. Possibly not. But it is fun that this all was there. They tried something. I really... I'm so happy because I didn't... remember i've seen photos with the dinosaurs but i didn't realize there was something other than just the characters walking around which it feels like there's stuff we can uncover and not that we i dug deep deep for this or anything but
was his home improvement there's a home improvement like walkthrough thing in mgm studios or something like stuff seems like there would be if there wasn't it seems like there would be but there's stuff like that where you're like oh that was there uh-huh so it's like stuff it's fun it's fun see what they like little things they tried yeah yeah and also very important that in the law they have to cover the dried up with a lot of dialogue and it's important that grandma ethel
Wants to go to the energy pavilion at Epcot because there's a cute Tyrannosaurus that hangs out there. That is good. That's a good line. Yeah. She wants to go date the energy dinosaurs. But they don't do the song. that baby Sinclair sings at some point. I'm the baby. Gotta love me. Great big guys and really cuddly. Um, yeah. Oh, there, wait, I didn't save that. I wonder if I can musical memory. Um, I,
I remember enjoying that. I like that. I loved that a show, it was like Full House, that Full House would show like an Olsen Twins music video or the Jesse and the Rippers Forever. I like ABC because they don't bore me with full long shows. as always sometimes there's a fun music video at the end well here maybe I'll I might play a little snippet of that at the end because I the rap is in the middle is pretty good
which will replace my previous idea of ending the episode musically which is just playing the chorus of Walk the Dinosaur for 11 minutes at the end. We left that entire outro.
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I don't know that. Oh, I went in the bookstore all the time. It was well-stocked with goosebumps. I don't think I ever put it together that it was the one from Ellen. I think that was the idea of that. Wow. ellen worked where apparently or went to i could not tell you one detail about all we got to do on that um But because they didn't do any cool music videos like this, which I'll leave you with Baby Sinclair's rap. And you might be able to guess some of the topics of his rap.
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